There seem to be a lot of comments questioning the practicality/usefulness of square wheels, particularly whether you can turn side-to-side with them. The short answer is there's likely not much practical use for them and you can't turn side-to-side. To be clear, this video was mainly meant to be an interesting application of math and geometry to a fun problem and was not meant to be practical in the slightest.
@nyxalexandra-io Жыл бұрын
yea
@bopcity5785 Жыл бұрын
I hope you've seen the Cody dock rolling bridge which now applies this math
@lukcurious Жыл бұрын
7ýyy ÿt5vg 22:25
@lukcurious Жыл бұрын
Ÿtyfus y😅ÿyÿy y yt 24:55
@lukcurious Жыл бұрын
24:58
@kindoflame2 жыл бұрын
I was going to mention that a second requirement for a smooth ride is that when the rotational speed of the wheel is constant, then horizontal speed of the axle is also constant. Otherwise, you could have a 'smooth ride' where the car constantly speeds up and stops short even when the wheels are not accelerating. However, the equation dx = r*d(theta) very simply shows that the only shape that could satisfy this new condition is a circle.
@kfawell2 жыл бұрын
I thought of the same thing as I watched. And I imagined what it would be like to ride in such a car that's constantly jerking you forward and backwards. It made me laugh out loud. I think we would be used to a bumpy road going up and down. It would be somewhat tolerable at least. We experienced that walking and jogging for example. On the other hand, having our head jerked back and forth would be hilariously unpleasant or at least irritating. For example, as though somebody has grabbed our collar and is shaking us back and forth. I don't want to detract from the video. It was very enjoyable and solves the smoothness problem as defined.
@fghsgh2 жыл бұрын
@@kfawell I've tried out one of those square wheel cars in a museum before. It was exactly like that.
@kfawell2 жыл бұрын
@@fghsghI am laughing again thinking about that. Were you able to watch others doing that before you rode? If yes, I suppose you had to find out first hand. I just realized you had that memory while you watched the video. I wonder how you reacted when you saw the word smooth. I really appreciate that the creator specifically defined smooth. Thank you for telling me.
@fghsgh2 жыл бұрын
@@kfawell I mean, you had to pedal yourself forward, and it was pretty slow so not too bad. It also mostly felt like variable resistance, not so much speed (because that's how inertia works). But yeah it seemed like it would not be entirely smooth from seeing others too. This was also at least 8 years ago so although my memory is pretty good, I can't give an exact description of the scene ;). But anyway I thought the lack-of-smoothness was just from the physical thing being imperfect, until this comment said otherwise.
@Zildawolf2 жыл бұрын
Well now I’m wondering what’s the shape that’d make the most speed inconsistency possible lol
@cambridgehathaway336711 ай бұрын
We live in an astoundingly amazing age. One person is able to singlehandedly write, animate, narrate and publish such a polished, professional, easy to understand, and intriguing video. not to mention doing all the math and even providing a formal proof they crafted themselves. Such incredible talent has existed in past ages (rare tho it may be), but never before has the common man been able to so easily and readily benefit from it. I am astounded and humbled and grateful.
@juanroldan5292 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! It's been just a few days since I have fallen in the rabbit hole of differential equations. I must say that I love your videos and that they inspire me to keep on improving and learning. Thank you!
@morphocular2 жыл бұрын
That's great! I'm so glad you found these videos so valuable. One of my hopes for this channel was to inspire others to learn and love math, so it pleases me deeply to be succeeding in that. I wish you the best on your continuing studies :)
@redtortoise Жыл бұрын
@@morphocular first
@maxwellhavoc6996 Жыл бұрын
@@redtortoise I am confused by what you are trying to say.
@mohre4014 ай бұрын
Hi, is this even a differential equation? To me a differential equation is an equation in which the function itself and one or more derivatives appear which isn't the case in this example
@juanroldan5294 ай бұрын
@@mohre401 have you even watched the video?
@thomasrosebrough90622 жыл бұрын
22:12 super hype to see my favorite curve show up in this video!! A Catenary Curve is also very commonly used in architecture for its even distribution of weight/pressure. The most famous catenary curve is the St Louis Arch which is over 600ft tall! It differs from the identity curve by having 0.01 in each exponent of e, as well as multiplying the entire equation by -68.8, resulting in a curve almost exactly as wide as it is tall!
@ethansmith8762 жыл бұрын
Saarinen my beloved
@csar07. Жыл бұрын
You ascend to a new level when you get your own favourite mathematical curve
@pulli232 жыл бұрын
I'm late: but there's a single also important point to make a "square wheel" work. The very point that needs to stay at the height also needs to be the center of mass. Otherwise a wheel would give a force rolling back/forward during part of it's movement.
@mujtabaalam59072 жыл бұрын
We can assume a powerful motor is spinning the wheel on a fixed gear system so the wheel's mass doesn't effect the motion
@whoisgliese2 жыл бұрын
@@mujtabaalam5907 epic lateral thinking thanks
@gcewing2 жыл бұрын
You can always achieve that by weighting the wheel appropriately, so it's not a constraint on the wheel's shape.
@johnmount54872 жыл бұрын
That “force” exists even if the axle is at the center of mass. If the wheel is rotating at a constant angular speed the horizontal speed is by definition not constant (changing by a factor or r).the effect is exaggerated as the axle is moved away from the axle as the extremes of the bounds of the radius get larger. The wheels horizontal speed, speeds up and slows down constantly throughout its travel for any shape other than a circle
@aaaab384 Жыл бұрын
its*
@alriktimo644 Жыл бұрын
When I watched this video, I just realised that my intuition is strong that without even a mathematical description I can jump to the right conclusion, but at the same time I realised I lacked the ability to articulate since I didn't understand it mathematically or completely realising the fact that how this is so or 'How come?' in simple terms. I need to strengthen my mathematical comprehension of data into equations and other methods. Thanks 👍
@sozo8537 Жыл бұрын
The dopamine hit i got when i successfully calculated the equation of the road was something else. I thank you for presenting this problem.
@RFVisionary2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Good didactic structure. Instructive, helpful and optically "super nice" to look at.
@enbyarchmage2 жыл бұрын
This video made me love catenaries even more, and I already considered them one of my favorite curves of all time! 🤩 I like catenaries bc they appear everywhere, from the Brachistochrone problem to architecture. For instance, Catalan architect Antoni Gaudi took pictures of carefully arranged sets of hanging chains and turned them upside down to model the structure of the most famous church he designed, bc upside-down catenaries make EXTREMELY stable arches. Isn't that beautiful? 🥰
@meade62912 жыл бұрын
The flaw in this is a vehicle with a continuous force applied through is engine to the axle wouldn't experience bumps in the x axis, but it would experience lurches and lags in it's movement on the y axis. Therefore it still would not be a comfortable drive unless the wheels rotational speed was constantly adjusted.
@eventhisidistaken2 жыл бұрын
Sure, but 'continuous force' was not specified. Yes, I'm an engineer.
@ob_stacle2 жыл бұрын
and if there's any wheelspin at all you'll be on the worst road in existance
@meade62912 жыл бұрын
@@ob_stacle holy shite I hadn't thought about that
@afoxwithahat78462 жыл бұрын
I think you switched the axis, the axles aren't moving vertically at all.
@meade62912 жыл бұрын
@@afoxwithahat7846 yep, and I teach coordinate plane. Shame on me
@AlmondAxis9873 ай бұрын
I actually watched this last year when I was in 8th grade. I didnt understand anything, obviously. And now, after learning basic calculus from youtube, it makes SO much more sense! Also, I want to say that the visual building of the road section is BEAUTIFUL.
@ineedtogetoutmore18482 жыл бұрын
that “Pivotal Role” pun at 11:14 was painful, well done
@danelyn.13742 жыл бұрын
I feel like I've stumbled onto a video about a question that I never had in mind, and, along with an amazing explanation of the entire problem, has given me a solution that I am really satisfied by and solves that problem? plus the explanation is amazing so like, mad props
@drmathochist062 жыл бұрын
Maybe you get to this later, but the "stationary rim property" also follows from the pivot principle. When the point in the wheel is the contact point itself, then any line through that point can do for the reference line in the orthogonal motion property. Only one possible velocity could be orthogonal to every line: 0.
@LoganCralle Жыл бұрын
Incredible video. I just took a dynamics course at university and I learned so much. This is an incredible application of maths. Bravo 👏
@mullactalk2 жыл бұрын
This channel is a hidden gem of maths KZbin
@AsiccAP2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I gained brain cells despite not understanding a word
@aartvb94432 жыл бұрын
You didn't gain brain cells, you gained connections between brain cells ;)
@ANormalLemon2 жыл бұрын
*Brain.exe has stopped working.*
@wildcard_7722 жыл бұрын
Same
@EverythingLvl2 жыл бұрын
It's an illusion, still super dum
@BloonMan1372 жыл бұрын
@@aartvb9443 🤓
@dj_laundry_list2 жыл бұрын
What the hell is this? It's awesome. I think it would be more complete/satisfying to state that the vertical alignment property relies on shapes being convex, but honestly this is one of the best math(s) videos i've seen for a while
@bloomp7999 Жыл бұрын
I deeply agree with your channel description and the Poincaré quote, i'm in for what you do, keep the good work !
@saintgermain66942 жыл бұрын
I never expected it to be that intuitive! Thanks for the really really great video.
@TheCynicalOne2 жыл бұрын
I want an entire video, or at least a short, dedicated to the orthogonal movement principle. It’s a mess and I want to dive in with full understanding! Great video about the wheels too. I feel like many of the wheels shown would slip a lot on their roads, so I guess the dream of bumpy square wheeled roads is a long shot lol.
@DonkoXI Жыл бұрын
The proof he gave is actually pretty clean all things considered. If you are interested in understanding it, I highly recommend looking through it and trying to understand his reasoning one step at a time. You can ignore the algebraic details at first, but try to understand the concepts in the argument. If you understand the way complex numbers work well enough, it should all be pretty intuitive with some time. If you don't feel very comfortable with how complex numbers work, then stopping and thinking about each detail of this proof will actually be a pretty good way to get a better understanding of how they work. What feels clean to me is of course subjective though.
@gergonagy8462 жыл бұрын
I'm safe to say, that this is the most engaging video that I've ever watched.
@amaarquadri2 жыл бұрын
Great video! You took an idea that seemed complicated at first and explained it so well that it seemed almost obvious in hindsight.
@tsar_asterov17 Жыл бұрын
This video is amazing, and all of his videos, ngl are basically 3b1b on light mode
@DitieBun2 жыл бұрын
4:15 This is the most insane wheel I've ever seen, and I'm here for it
@TerrifyingBird2 жыл бұрын
This problem (or rather a simpler version of the problem) ended up in an italian high school final exam, in 2017. It is to this day one of the most iconic problems to ever appear on the test.
@_Mike57_2 жыл бұрын
it's all fun and games until you have to turn
@philosophymikebill2 жыл бұрын
Do you mind if I ask what programs/language/code you used to make this video? I'm attempting to learn this sort of simulation, but I'm not sure where to start. Thank you for making these videos. I've been trying to figure out this topic in my head for several years and this is the first meaningful insight I've come across in a good long while.
@morphocular2 жыл бұрын
I actually used my own homemade software to make the animations in this video. You can find the software here if you want to play with it: github.com/morpho-matters/morpholib However, it's still largely just a personal project and the documentation is rather sparse. A more well-established and popular tool for making similar animations is called Manim, which you can find here: www.manim.community/ Hope this helps :)
@philosophymikebill2 жыл бұрын
@@morphocular I really appreciate the advice and even sharing your program! Thank you for getting back to me
@alexv1129 Жыл бұрын
@@morphocular Math is interesting and fun - but I am subbing because of this right here. Amazing of you to be so kind and helpful. Good luck, creator!
@ianhickey3423 Жыл бұрын
@@morphocular This is so unbelievably cool
@the25thdoctor2 жыл бұрын
What I love about this is, it has a simple answer. Think gears, and a gear rack. But is far more complicated to preform
@RFVisionary2 жыл бұрын
great tutorial. good didactic structure. instructive, helpful and optically "super nice" to look at.
@stuartl77612 жыл бұрын
6:10 I love that the first and last terms cancelled happily :D Loved the proof too, I must remember to check through if complex numbers might help when I come across a problem.
@morphocular2 жыл бұрын
A good hint that complex numbers might help is if your problem involves 2D rotation or 2D rotational symmetry. That's where complex numbers often come in handy!
@pastadcasta2 жыл бұрын
I have a way I like to think about it, if you take the path that the axle takes when the shape is rolled continuously over a flat surface, and use that for the road surface, the shape will roll smoothly. It's cool to see the algebraic representation of that though. Very cool video! ^^
@steffahn2 жыл бұрын
A square wheel rolled over a flat surface will actually just pivot around each of the 4 corners. Thus, the axle would take a path composed of a series of arcs (i.e. sections of the perimeter of a circle), which is definitely *different* from the series of catenaries that are shown in this video to be the shape of road that you need.
@brucea98712 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video and analysis. I'll be watching more of your videos. This one reminds me of an old comic strip. It was called BC and based in prehistoric times. Their only form of transportation (other than walking) was what they called the wheel. It was a circular wheel with an axle through the centre and they stood on the axle to ride the wheel. (How they propelled it - especially uphill - is beyond me.) In one of the strip's comics (presumably before they thought of using circular wheels and hence only had square wheels) one character declares to another he has derived an improvement to the square wheel and produces a triangular wheel. "Improvement?", the second character says, confused. The first character replied "It eliminates one bump". But of course if they designed their roads as you specified they could actually have square or triangular wheels with no bumps. (Somehow I think it would be easier to come up with a circular wheel.)
@adrianmisak072 жыл бұрын
fantastic video… cant even express how impressive this is to me, I try to do math recreationally after getting my masters in applied math…
@user-hd9oh9bk8b2 жыл бұрын
it's honestly fascinating how many titles and thumbnails this exact video's had. i've heard about this but never gotten to see it firsthand
@officiallyaninja2 жыл бұрын
this video is so good. its criminal that you don't have hundreds of thousands of subs
@Happy_Abe2 жыл бұрын
In time we’ll get this channel there
@ДаниилРабинович-б9п2 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure you can easily derive the pivot principle from the fact the contact point is stationary: observation 1: the wheel is a 2D rigid body, so its motion is fully described by horizontal speed, vertical speed, and rotational speed, so it has 3 degrees of freedom. observation 2: the constraint that the contact point is stationary restricts 2 degrees of freedom, thus leaving 1 degree of freedom. observation 3: pivoting motion satisfies the stationary contact point constraints and has 1 degree of freedom. therefore pivoting motion is the only possible way to satisfy the stationary contact point constraint.
@kindlin2 жыл бұрын
When he said it was _really hard to prove_ I was confused, as this is the only motion available due to the no-slip-condition and the rigid body motion. But honestly, the statement of the question itself is almost the proof of the question. You want to figure out how to prove that all points on the wheel move periductular around the contact point, well, proof by exhaustion, there are no other ways it could move around the contact point but to pivot, and the definition of pivoting, as noted in this video, is perpendicular motion about a point.
@SophiaBrouchoud-se1ht6 ай бұрын
Who needs to spend thousands of dollars on therapy when you have this guy and his wheels? This genuenly sooths my brain and I love to learn things like this so yippy!
@H3xx1st2 жыл бұрын
You explained that beautifully! I am definitely looking forward to your future videos.
@lenskihe2 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👍 I tried to solve this problem on my own once. I'm glad I watched this video, because now I know that I would never have been able to do it 😂
@AJMansfield12 жыл бұрын
19:45 It seems like the road shape depends on how you parameterize the wheel's rotation then -- the function I always instinctively reach for when parameterizing straight lines in polar coordinates is the secant function, and I'd have written that line as { r(t) = sec(t), θ(t) = t }
@AJMansfield12 жыл бұрын
(In fact, you can choose *any* θ(t) parameterization you want, and just use r(t) = sec(θ(t)) to get a straight line for whatever speed you rotate the wheel at.)
@Chariotuber2 жыл бұрын
This is interesting. I suppose you can get from your parameterization to his by the change of variables t → tan(t'). I wonder if this freedom of parameterization has any physical meaning.
@AJMansfield12 жыл бұрын
@@Chariotuber I went and simulated it, and the resulting road curves *are* actually different from each other.
@Chariotuber2 жыл бұрын
@@AJMansfield1 Oh, how did you simulate it? On my end, starting with your parameterization, I ended up doing the standard integral of sec(t) which is ln(|sec(t)+tan(t)|). I then plotted this parametrically on Desmos (typing in "(ln(|sec(t)+tan(t)|),-sec(t))" on the first line) with the domain [-π/2,π/2] for t. It already looked close to the catenary shape. But to make sure, on the 2nd line I put in his solution of y=-cosh(x), and the curves stack on top of each other rather exactly.
@dyld9212 жыл бұрын
The parametrization of the road would change, but the shape (x-y relationship) wouldn't.
@thirockerr2 жыл бұрын
Nice video ! I would be interested to see how you would present the optimal road shape taking into account a specific mass for the wheel, the gravitationnal force.
@mateuszbaginski50752 жыл бұрын
I can't really point to what it is in your videos that makes them one of the best I discovered through 3B1B's SoME. Whatever it is, you are grokking it, man.
@phlapjakz2 жыл бұрын
it always amazes me how e manages shows up everywhere even when the problem looks like it has nothing to do with it
@sriramn18092 жыл бұрын
First video ive seen on this channel. Wondering why youtube took so long to recommend me stuff from here. This channel is amazing!
@manifaridi9200 Жыл бұрын
I hate mathematics but man... look how beautiful it is.
@WAMTAT Жыл бұрын
You don't hate math, you just hate how it was taught to you.
@blackbeast9268 Жыл бұрын
Trust me nobody hates math. I used to have E and was on my way to F but then i moved school and my teacher was amazing and i got A because he explained everything so well and got me motivated. Math is a language with rules and if you're teacher doesn't explain the rules in details it will be boring because you rely on common methods and formulas instead of understanding why they work. It's very fun and i would argue chemistry or physics are much harder then any math expect super high level .
@duncanhw2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love how you started by making the equations and then deriving the shape from them! Can't wait for the next video. also, wouldn't the wine glasses in the thumbnail be knocked forward/backward due the second law of road-wheel motion?
@redyau_2 жыл бұрын
The way you use - I assume - MAnim is absolutely outstanding. I bet you come to understand every concept you explain in an incredible depth as you code these. Really impressive!
@vikn3312 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect example of "I have no idea what this man is talking about, but I like it"
@jorgec982 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda proud of myself I grasped the first analytical definition more easily than the second visual one
@vitorguilhermecoutinhodeba3253 Жыл бұрын
It is a nice video, even though I think some properties have different names in here. Instant center of rotation is the center (no pun intended) of all this procedure, and wasn’t mentioned. The animations were very good!
@darealmrog Жыл бұрын
Congrats! You just reinvented a train!
@iskallman57062 жыл бұрын
This is as good as mathematics vidéos get. The pinacle.
@ANZEMusic2 жыл бұрын
This is a really good video. The math is fascinating, and you present it clearly with exceptional visuals, and I greatly appreciate it
@blaze88622 жыл бұрын
I haven't learned trig yet and I've only slightly touched on graphing, yet I watched a 30 minute video on the topic, and I loved every last minute of it
@jursamaj2 жыл бұрын
The horizontal motion of the axle is necessary for a smooth ride, but not sufficient. It needs to be *smooth* horizontal motion, not jerking forward and back. That, in turn, requires the wheels to rotate at highly variable speed. But that's not how driven axles tend to work. Additionally, when the wheel is moving up the slope, the wheel will be moving too fast at any given moment. Combined with the uphill configuration, you basically guarantee slippage. You face a similar problem on the downhill side, but inverse. Those novelty tourist attractions tend to reduce both these effects by having the front & back wheels be exactly a half wave out of phase. That way the slippage either way hopefully cancels out, and one axle can be speeding up while the other is slowing down.
@TheGiuse45 Жыл бұрын
This was a question on the high school finals in italy a few years back
@WeeIrishLaddie1 Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in a sister video where "smooth" was defined as "constant velocity" rather than "constant axel height", ie changing the axel height in the wheel as it rolls to keep it moving horizontally at constant speed
@NoOffenseAnimation2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I like to wonder what this would look like in practise, if someone were to try this in the real world, but of course there would be a great deal of other things to consider
@kdicus2 жыл бұрын
Watching the shape of that ellipse move around makes me wonder if that visual perspective doesn’t unlock a thought on how to attack the unknown equation of the perimeter. For those of us who are visual, this was absolutely gorgeous to watch.
@blackboxlearning11 ай бұрын
I was hoping to make a video on this exact topic, but I guess it has already been beautifully covered by this channel. While checking for that, I came across this channel and I love the animations and their interactivity. Already subbed. Expect a video soon covering more stuff, cus I'm not leaving the idea :)
@deathpigeon22 жыл бұрын
While a flat ride is certainly an important thing for a smooth ride, I'm not convinced it's sufficient. It seems reasonable to describe a jerky ride as also a non-smooth ride. That is to say, given a constant torque applied to the wheel, the third derivative (the jerk) of the forward motion produced by the wheel spinning should be precisely equal to zero. Put another way, a linear acceleration of the rotation of the wheel should produce linear forward acceleration for the whole system. Now, I think the stationary rim principle should be sufficient to ensure that this is the case because it ensures that the rim speed and the axle speed are equal, but I think it'd be insufficient to consider only the flatness of a ride to determine if it's properly a smooth ride.
@klikkolee2 жыл бұрын
We are used to vehicles which are propelled by the wheels. However, if the vehicle is moved by means unrelated to its wheels, then the criterion in the video is sufficient. For vehicles which are wheel-propelled, unless a fanciful control system regulates the wheel speed, your additional criterion is required to make the vehicle feel subjectively smooth to a real human occupant. The no-slip condition (stationary rim principle in this video) does *not* guarantee your criterion. The r in the no-slip equation is a function of t. Your criterion is only consistent with the no-slip condition if the radius is constant -- meaning a circular wheel.
@deathpigeon22 жыл бұрын
@@klikkolee ...Right. I was thinking it'd ensure 0 jerk because it ensures that the rotational velocity at the touching point and the forward velocity at the axel are the same, but, for constant torque, the velocity at the touching point would be in part a function of the distance from the axel so you *need* at least some slipping to ensure a smooth ride unless you have a constant distance from the axel (ie being a circle as you said).
@Nuclear8682 жыл бұрын
What if, in case of a car, we make the distance between the front and the rear wheels such that front and rear wheels are offset - when the front wheels have the highest angular speed, the rear wheels have the lowest angular speed? Yes, they will not cancel out completely, but will reduce the 'jerk' feeling.
@eventhisidistaken2 жыл бұрын
Who said the torque had to be constant? Stop trying to impose your roundism on the rest of us.
@klikkolee2 жыл бұрын
@@eventhisidistaken It would be a substantial engineering challenge to create a vehicle where the torque applied by the wheels varies in perfect concert with the road shape. Without that perfection, a wheel-propelled vehicle can't have a smooth ride on an extreme road without slipping.
@tracy4492 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I learned a lot. Also, I have a question: If the axle moves at a constant velocity, does the wheel rotate with a constant angular velocity?
@morphocular2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! To answer your question: Not necessarily! The second Road-Wheel equation says the axle's velocity is dx/dt = r dθ/dt, where dθ/dt is the angular velocity. So the only way both the axle velocity and the angular velocity can be constant is if the wheel has a constant radius, meaning this will only happen for the case of a circular wheel.
@TheHuesSciTech2 жыл бұрын
@@morphocular Fascinating -- I *believe* an involute rack and pinion has the property of dx/dt = k dθ/dt, where k is a fixed property of a given gear (the radius of the gear's "pitch circle", or half the "pitch diameter", perhaps?). This would appear to contradict the statement you made above, but I believe that might be because you're assuming no slippage between the wheel and road in your video, whereas an involute rack and pinion does have slippage?
@cheshire12 жыл бұрын
@@TheHuesSciTech The equation you gave is approximately true, since a gear is pretty close to a circle.
@TheHuesSciTech2 жыл бұрын
@@cheshire1 It's approximately true for all gears, yes. But I believe it's *precisely* true for an involute gear. (Neglecting real-world clearances and manufacturing tolerances, of course.)
@cheshire12 жыл бұрын
@@TheHuesSciTech You may be right, involute gears do have slippage (and the contact point jumps around instead of staying on a vertical line), so the argument from the video doesn't work in their case.
@LunaAlphaKretin2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious what would happen if you impose the additional restriction of making the axle's horizontal speed (and, hence, velocity) constant (given constant rotation speed). I noticed the speed seemed to vary a lot with that particularly arbitrary-shaped wheel example at 4:18, which would probably be a disconcerting experience as a driver. Still I imagine the answer is that you can't have a road that does both - to prevent a change in horizontal speed you'd probably need a different road that causes vertical changes. What if we just say "constant velocity", allowing the vertical position of the axle to change as long as it feels like a smooth slope would for a circle-wheeled driver. I don't know how that would go, but it feels more likely to be possible.
@WaluigiisthekingASmith2 жыл бұрын
The second equation says dx/dx =rdtheta/dt. Differentiating a second time d^2x/dt^2= dr/dt dtheta/dt +r dtheta^2/dt^2. Given your restriction dr/dt dtheta/dt = -r dtheta^2/dt^2. Thus r'/r =u'/u. Doing what any good physicist would do and pretending we can just cancel our differentials like fractions, we get ln(r *dtheta)= c and thus dtheta/dt =c/r
@joaogiorgini13262 жыл бұрын
Make velocity constant with constant rotational speed? In other words, dx/dt=cte and d0/dt=cte. Meaning, in the second equation, r must also be a constant. In other words, the only shape that satisfies a truly smooth ride is a circle.
@bears77777772 жыл бұрын
I think the only way this would be possible would be to allow wheel slip. The amount of slip would be the fastest angular speed - slowest angular speed. The slip would have to occur when the point of contact is farther than the minimum. For the square, this would be when the point of contact tends towards the corners as they are farther from the center then the center of a side. I’m not sure that’s even solvable though
@scifiordie Жыл бұрын
Nobody cares bro get a life
@k7iq2 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic ! 2 + 2 = 5 for large values of 2 But would a square wheel do good in snow or maybe even ice ?
@Error-xl3ty2 жыл бұрын
Videos like this are why I love math
@ParadoxProblems2 жыл бұрын
If you want a non circular wheel that moves with constant speed, you can give the wheel a non uniform mass density such that when the wheel would slow down, the part on the bottom that is moving slower is made more massive. It's momentum is transfered to the entire wheel body, maintaining a constant velocity. Most likely the mass distribution would be such that every dTheta slice around the axle has the same mass regardless of radius. (Constant moment of inertia)
@Adam-pj2qh7 ай бұрын
thats so sick, finally some applied mathemathics!!!
@convincingmountain2 жыл бұрын
very nice video, i really enjoyed the small steps taken each time to get to the answer. and even then, there's so much more to discover! well presented and paced, didn't feel like half an hour. your consistent use of both visual and verbal explanations for each new idea is great.
@archie14902 жыл бұрын
This was a nice brain teaser before I go off to do maths at uni. GL everyone off to uni in Septemember!
@miguelcabaero58432 жыл бұрын
I love the production quality
@TomatoBulb2 жыл бұрын
I have absolutely no idea what any of this means but I find it interesting
@RagingBadger6810 ай бұрын
While I don’t understand 80% of what I’ve been told here, I did finally understand the purpose of imaginary numbers here. I’ve struggled through so many math classes which could never just explain it so effectively.
@debmalyalodh14 ай бұрын
1:35 IDC what anyone says but THAT INTRO SONG IS FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
@negi60712 жыл бұрын
this is an amazing video, it went much more in depth that i thought it would and im so glad for that, 10/10
@g10royalle Жыл бұрын
The animations are so satisfying
@ZotyLisu2 жыл бұрын
this should have way more views
@kinkinawesome2 жыл бұрын
Exited for the next videos!
@MF-dz7cp Жыл бұрын
I'm a sophomore in high school so I have no clue what this video is talking about but it's still interesting
@Cesar-ey7wu Жыл бұрын
You would actually feel "bumps" in a square wheeled car because for a constant speed, the rotational speed of square varies (you can see it in the video : it's accelerating when it gets to the side of the square and slowing down on the corner). So if your engine is putting a constant torque to the wheel, the car's acceleration would vary four times for each wheel rotation, which wouldn't be comfy at all.
@bitroix_2 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video! Thank you.
@agy32562 жыл бұрын
This video is pure gold
@DarkAlice6 ай бұрын
Instead of assuming frictionless surfaces like normal, you assumed that sliding friction is infinite
@rebeccastevens2903 Жыл бұрын
Wheels are paradise. The wheel groups form paradise!
@Josephi_Krakowski2 жыл бұрын
These are the type of videos I watch at 3 AM
@badpriestess_ Жыл бұрын
this video gave me calculus PTSD flashbacks. loved it
@elitestryker57092 жыл бұрын
Its so much more understandable than PHysics I and Technischemechanik at ETH together eith explaining all the concepts
@imad_uddin2 жыл бұрын
Nice to meet you Grant Anderson Junior!
@clayton8or2 жыл бұрын
Im so proud, e46 coupe featured in a math video, how poetic.
@iamtraditi40752 жыл бұрын
I know I'm late, but this is really good!
@antoinedebray79372 жыл бұрын
I know a magician never reveals his trick... but I beg you to explain me something : at 20:46 you do a simplification and... tadaaa ! The square root jumps from above the fraction bar to under it. I don't get how and it puzzles me a lot. Would you mind giving me (or us all ?) details about this dark magic ? Thank you for this awesome video EDIT: God I feel silly for not having found the answer myself earlier but I got it. And even more because I think it is one of the easiest thing in your video... If anyone is looking for it: sqrt(a)/a = sqrt(a)/[(sqrt(a)*sqrt(a)] So yes it is quite simple to do simplification
@arlyu606 Жыл бұрын
I reeeally love your content. Thank you for all your videos :-)
@johnnyvishnevskiy8090 Жыл бұрын
I'm more interested in how this transfers over to 3 dimensions and how turning affects how the shape of the road is made.
@josiphanak9130 Жыл бұрын
noone cares...youtube is in 2D
@firiasu Жыл бұрын
So good explanation!
@brayli862 жыл бұрын
Must have for BMW E46 Coupe drivers 😁
@cut2000trees Жыл бұрын
To demonstrate the stationary rim property, you could imagine a wheel with a notch cit out on the edge. If, say, a squirrel was in the road, and it positioned itself to line up with the notch, it would be safe. Because the notch wouldn't move, it would be stationary