The perfect Tent pitch - every time | Durston X-Mid

The perfect tent pitch every time Durston X Mid
Here we walk through pitching the Durston and a few thoughts along the way with tips and tricks for you to keep mindful.
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[@neemancallender9092]

08:00 Did not understand about what corner to head into the wind Could you explain again thanks

[@TonyHobbs]

Yes Its my friends tent and he'd never pitched before so he did it the way you see it BUT imo it's wrong this way and as I point out in video I'd pitch it narrow side to wind with that long line from top of pole into the wind. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and commenting

[@joakimolsson1024]

The top ridge should be parallel to the wind for optimal stability in wind

[@TonyHobbs]

Foot to wind you mean ? I can't see how wind striking it directly at the back is a good idea ?

[@joakimolsson1024]

@@TonyHobbs parallel = wind should be same direction as ridgeline i.e. the wind striking the corner of one of the poles, along the seam from the corner stake (and ridgeline).

[@TonyHobbs]

Cheers yes as I said where feet are . Hit it by feet along the ridge line. The problem is the wind can and does move. Hitting it broadside would not be good. Its really a tent for reasonably sheltered spots. I hope to borrow it again from my friend and use it more and do more comparison videos etc. Fingers crossed 🤞

[@VapourTrailz]

Hi Tony, great video, the top tip that I have discovered on KZbin (No, I can't. Take credit) is to make sure that the base is entirely square I.E. it is not rhombus, In order to do this peg out the short side, go around to the other short side. Grab both corners and bring them together and pull tight. This will find the centre point of the other short side. If you peg this centrally and then pull out from either side off that point 😂that creates a perfect square and will remove all wrinkles from the fly sheet. Hope this helps. Cheers, Matt

[@TonyHobbs]

Yes I heard that and yes a square or rectangle needed like all these types as I often say myself lol the problem with that plan is getting the first two exactly straight if they out then other end will be out. On tough ground not lawn getting first two straight by eye easier than rough ground. I'd suggest pegging out and looking at it by eye vs this new fangled thing 😉 😆 the other thing is when you tighten the lines that will to a degree get it into correct shape. Remember you could have rectangle but then pull one corner too much or not enough once it's erect too so probably better to work around it make sure it's correct shape. So in principle it's nice idea but flawed as the shape could be wrong at start if first two pegs not 90 degrees and as tightened up esp on uneven ground the shape needs monitoring. Pretty easy to keep this rectangular. I'm hoping my friend let's me borrow this again one day. Take care and thanks for watching 👀

[@VapourTrailz]

@@TonyHobbs yeah by that i mean, if you pull from the opposite short end. You create a triangle. If you pin the centre of that triangle and then pull out from that tip you will create a perfect rectangle. I'd love to link the video showing this, but I've no idea where it is. Sorry!.

[@Howling-Mad-Murdock]

Dan shows it very well in this vid. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nICtZXWBftR-fdUsi=VABeYlZ-EQBYPZbi

[@PaulMessner]

Better than the doumid isn't it Tony 🤣

[@TonyHobbs]

Some will like it 🤣 esp tent people and apart from weight I think the Scarp 1 is much better Hoping to nab Chris Townsends Anaris one day and enan :)

[@TonyHobbs]

It's nice to see you in the comments here 😀 not many youtubers bother so it's definitely appreciated that you watching and partaking 😀

[@Bikepacking]

@@TonyHobbs he watching you tony because he learning The old school way lol plus Tony when you started camping .. it was called cave dwelling

[@Bikepacking]

It looks like a copy of my old tarptent StratoSpire 1 from 6 years ago

[@TonyHobbs]

@Bikepacking it feels like I been around since the caveman days lol I love looking at the new generation all excited about DCF when I'm wearing mine out its so old 😆

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Nice video, Tony. I have borrowed one to review. I love tube stakes....Great tips on the pegs.. I also use different pegs on the lee side.. ATB and thank you for the video...Tom

[@TonyHobbs]

Hi Tom great to see you here thank you 😊 it'll be very interesting what you make of it 😀

[@MegaMastiffman]

Haha your a funny guy Tony, thank you. Liked and subbed

[@TonyHobbs]

Thank you hope you enjoy channel 😊

[@runhikesleeprepeat187]

Not a bad watch 👍 good to see a pitch on sketcky ground. I've a 2p solid on the way for use with the wife. It might get pressed into use as just a tarp with the superlite bivi if I find it can stand up well and the weather calls for it.

[@TonyHobbs]

It would be a Palace with inner out and bivy used. Just be cautious in high wind over 35 to 40 mph and above it'll not be a good night in it. For sheltered spot it'll be ace.

[@wad6216]

I advise watching the proper Durston video online on how to pitch, just about everything in this video is wrong and will have you selling your X Mid after. One tip I give is to remove the inner for what it takes to remove and add each time it makes it a lot easier to pitch especially in windy weather

[@TonyHobbs]

Hello what did I get wrong? Its not mine I borrowed it but its not my favourite for sure check out my other vuds in it. But please elaborate on your thoughts

[@macinthewild8116]

I agree, totally confusing.

[@TonyHobbs]

@@macinthewild8116 nonsense I explain everything I'd suggest drinking coffee and watching again and listening as I explain everything in detail 😅

[@antduke2361]

@@TonyHobbs no it's a rubbish explanation with no thought ..You asked me to elaborate and I did then you removed my comment! Anyone watching don't take no.notice of this guy he is 20 minutes out of a car with a steak and potato dinner in a Hilliberg guy.

[@TonyHobbs]

@antduke2361 I have removed nothing. Explain again. I've left all your posts thank you 😊

[@JackKlumpass]

Nicely done Tony. Good point about big stakes on main pitching points. Tony I seam sealed it. I’m not sure what the makers do with it - I think they do that folding malarkey like terra nova do.

[@TonyHobbs]

Ah ok that makes sense Did you use seam grip 🤔 did they supply anything? You must have been patient doing it from the inside lol

[@Olan...]

@@TonyHobbs Dont they do it in the stitching processs because i have the 1 man and the 2 man and i can't see any sign or seam sealant same goes for my Duo mid which i bought second hand unused on eBay when i run my finger across the seam it feels less silky but other than that there are no visible signs of seam sealing unlike when i have done my Hex Peak V4 which you can see my seam sealing work if you stood 100m away :(

[@TonyHobbs]

@Piercethebubble the duomid probably does need doing I bet Chris who owns it saw a KZbinr saying the x mid needed sealing and then did it when maybe it wasn't needed which might account for my confusion 🤔 lol he won't be upset if I'm wrong lol

[@TonyHobbs]

@Piercethebubble Chris Townsend the other Chris lol loaned me his scarp 1 and I took it to Wales last week he never sealed it and it was fine in rain 😆

[@dylanpausic5026]

Your corner adjustments after the poles are in place go against how Durston explained to make adjustments. Loosen the poles or take them out then adjust the corners

[@TonyHobbs]

My way is just another option and works for me having pitched tents for 12 years needing poles . For me this gives better way and others might like the option. Great comment though thanks for stopping by

[@dylanpausic5026]

Fair enough. Was checking out vids for my new xmid 2 and found some inconsistencies between different methods. Guess it’s good not to get stuck on one method of thinking as u suggest. Will keep urs in mind in the field as well. Have a good day

[@TonyHobbs]

@dylanpausic5026 thanks for replying yip absolutely and whilst Dan and his fans definitely prefer his way personally I prefer adjusting using lines for that finishing touch 😀 enjoy your trip

[@trytheoutdoors]

Thank you. I have both the xmid 1p (old version) and the scarp1. Which one would you use for multi day hiking in the UK eg Cape Wrath , Coast to Coast etc? :)

[@TonyHobbs]

I used Scarp 1 on a very recent trip to Wales imo it's a more liveable environment than x mid but heavier. If you can save weight on other bits and can pack scarp I'd take that of the two. I'm really not a big fan of x mid. I have two other vids on it plus more more to follow from this trip plus when in the Scarp I show us around it and will edit in x mid for a Scarp x mid video. But if weight an issue take x mid its perfectly nice if you get on with it esp as light Save more weight ĺeave inner behind just have a good bath tub groundsheet

[@TonyHobbs]

Which do you prefer ? What are you thinking to take

[@trytheoutdoors]

I agree with you. My x mid ripped in fairly high winds a few weeks ago. The flysheet outer fabric ripped where the pole tip goes into the grommet on the strip of webbing which in turn presses against the flysheet. May be I pitched it badly???? But I do love the lightness, spaciousness and ease of pitch of the x mid. But the scarp 1 offers invaluable living space and is able to cope with very wet and windy weather which offers peace of mind. I've just wild camped in Snowdonia and - inevitably- it was cold and very wet. The living space of my tarp tent was a life saver. The weight penalty of the tarp tent ( at 1.4 kg it is 500 g heavier than the x mid???) is worth paying in order to be able to spread out and to begin trying to dry out....or at least change easily into one's 'sacred' dry sleep clothes stored in the trusty dry bag. On multiple day hikes, for me living space is vital - especially in the long dark nights. This means I need a 2p tent. The scarp 1 is a 1.5 tent and does offer that space. One dreams of a 4 season, soacious tent at 1kg...but I don't think it exists. Or does it? The x mid, although strong, is not a 4 season tent but does tick many other boxes. Love your tip about using the tarp tent pegs for the x mid 😀

[@smashy152]

@@trytheoutdoors Tarptent stratospire 1 is 4 season and sub 1kg

[@TonyHobbs]

@imran2703 uggg did you get it replaced or fixed? How heavy is the x mid 2? Then compare to the Scarp 1 esp weight? I'm not hating on the Durston I think it has its place I just don't get the hype oh I know it's new lol I'd rather have my MLD stuff as stated in other videos recently on this tent. This new fancy material doesn't seem as strong and it'll get around to other companies soon as they will need to compete etc. Time will tell.

[@Northern_Rockhopper]

Hi Tony, is this the 1 or the 2? Thanks mate

[@TonyHobbs]

It's the Durston 1 and quite small inside esp with the inner. Several videos on this one on my channel. I'm not convinced by its wind resistance for windier exposed UK weather. Watch Tom Healeys video. Say I sent you hopefully he'll chuck a few bods my way lol although when I mention other youtubers most of em don't mention me back 😆 Be wary if a video claims this tent to be standing firm in 40mph wind 😉 that is very windy and the tent didn't move in said video lol mmmm

[@neemancallender9092]

Is there a recommended pole height Thanks

[@TonyHobbs]

About 115-120cm

[@cmkannen]

Tony, if you had to give away all of your shelters EXCEPT one, which one would you keep?

[@TonyHobbs]

Trailstar as it does everything brilliantly plus big and pitches over stuff if stuff in the way 😆 can porch higher or lower as needed so it's definitely the one I'd keep and if went somewhere new unknown it's the one I'd take for max protection and comfort

[@cmkannen]

@@TonyHobbs Excellent! I was afraid you would just heart the comment and call it an impossible task to decide :)

[@TonyHobbs]

Lol no that is an easy decision 🤣 Next would be the mids ie duomid or duomid XL but I love the Grace duo tarp that has loads of room too. Space and lightweight is order of the day. Use what you have to block drafts and get a good sleeping bag for warmth I'd rather invest in warner sleeping bag adding 100-200g than an extra kg of tent lol 😆 and be cooped up. I use tents but mainly to show that on the channel 😆

[@cmkannen]

@@TonyHobbs 💯

[@TheWalkingKev]

I'm tempted to get rid of my Lanshan in favour of one of these...

[@TonyHobbs]

This tent will suit a lot of people I hear some are appearing second hand now

[@TheWalkingKev]

@@TonyHobbs for silly money though!

[@TonyHobbs]

@TheWalkingKev the Durston is $270 plus sales tax plus postage plus customs my friend said with those poles he got with it by time landed it was £500!!!!!!

[@TheWalkingKev]

@@TonyHobbs it's crazy really. That's why I don't own one! I prefer my shelters for under £25.

[@wad6216]

@@TonyHobbs BS I have two the one man comes in around 330-340 UK pounds after tax shipped and the two man I got a month ago for like just over £400 all in for the more expensive solid version! So the mesh inner is cheaper than that also. So its no where near that price shipped into the UK. Your wrong and you can blame your mate too but wrong is wrong mush. Its obvious you have a bias against this tent and bumping the price up considerably to justify this is not helpful to viewers. Its nice when content creators just post hard and correct facts. Please bare this in mind for the future.

[@MATRIX....]

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[@Smudgerandhisdaftdog]

Won’t be long and you’ll be getting one soon I reckon 😂

[@TonyHobbs]

Probably unlikely tbh I'd rather save for an MLD Cricket I'm not overly impressed sadly but some will quite rightly like it

[@Smudgerandhisdaftdog]

@@TonyHobbs Come over to the dark side master Luke. You known you want to, and we have cake 🎂

[@robbrigham5926]

Do this instead: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5Kxhairp6l4fKc Perfect pitch, first time and no adjustment, every time. Much easier.

[@TonyHobbs]

Finally watched lol or just skip that step and peg out third corner by eye lol It pitched well on flat grassy lawn but do it on rougher camping terrain not so easy

[@antduke2361]

@@TonyHobbs I'll give you that it is harder in the wild than the lawn but it's still a clueless pitch fella

[@TonyHobbs]

So one small paragraph of criticism and complaining but no suggestions to improve it? Because it's a pretty good pitch esp given it was basically my second ... it gives clear info clear reasoning and suggestions for steaks etc. So I'll await your reply. You're rather snookered now aren't you or is it check mate 🤔 its a good pitch and you know it. The problem is its nor the greatest shelter. Did you watch my vs Duomid video? I'll see you in comments there I'll set up a troll department lol 😆 it's actually been fun and I thank you for your fun conversation and looking forward to seeing you against on other videos. My next camp I'll cook a steak in your honour 🎖 😉 and you can learn what I usually use 😉 so your trolling can be more professional 😉

[@antduke2361]

@@TonyHobbs yes give me a shout out in your your 10 minute hike from the car to pitch up. Or when you tuck into steak and potatoes 🥔

[@TonyHobbs]

That's more like it a friendly bit of banter lol 😆 it's called troll taming I'm the Barbara Woodhouse of trolls 🧌 😄 sit stay walkies 😆 be a good troll and sterilise your dummy 😉 🤣 😄 you can be sure I'll mention you 😉 more comedy gold

[@shane9678]

I personally wouldn't pitch this with the poles in. Too much risk of making adjustments and having the pole slip out and damage the tent. The rectangle should be formed tightly before inserting poles. If I have a bad bitch, I always remove my poles before adjusting. My two cents.

[@TonyHobbs]

Hi Shane I did that didn't I or should say didn't.... peg out four corners to rectangular shape then poles once shape set

[@shane9678]

@@TonyHobbs Hey Tony. You're making adjustments in your video with the poles in and then tightening it up. I'm just saying I personally wouldn't do that due to possible risk of pole slipping.

[@TonyHobbs]

Ah ok I think I always make fine tuning in things. Good warning to be extra careful though. I think with this one Paul Messner says peg out corners and then put pole in and adjust height that way which is possibly what you mean. On rougher ground I usually find some extra adjustments needed. Carefully ;) 😉

[@paulclemmensen4541]

This pitch is so over kill. Durston is excellent in stormy conditions. I only carry 8 steaks but mostly only use six . 4 corners and vestibule. In really stormy weather i'll use the 2 guy lines on the poles.

[@TonyHobbs]

What about the two side tie out points you never use those? I hope to borrow it from my friend again later in the month for an extended time to get another look and use it more. If you only carry 8 you can't use side ties. Not needed? They probably on bungee so less sturdy anyway amd most mids with side ties are either not really needed or more for support vs actual rigidity. Yes maybe its a bit over kill but I explain things so new people if interested get a few thoughts and ideas and we can't always pitch on bowling green often it's uneven bumpy ground so this helps deal with that. What is the highest winds you been in it? I am sure its fine enough to 25-30mph it'll be very uncomfortable much over that but again most will be. Thanks for watching

[@Fluxyzabc]

The mere length of this video indicates that this is over complicating a simple thing, I’m sorry but there are way better methods. Pitching it right takes less than 2 minutes usually.

[@TonyHobbs]

Hello Did you even watch the video and what part are you concerned about? Maybe where most others pitch theirs on their lawns and show off putting pole in position easily? Maybe pitch it on rough lumpy ground where a tweek here or there might be needed to get it just right? Maybe some enjoy adjusting things to taste? Plus if you watch it (?)you’ll see why I suggest or think something or other? What do you specifically disagree with and do you own one? I'm hoping to borrow it again for another camp out so will give it more thoughts moving forward. Thanks for popping by and supporting channel.