The Philosophy of the Unabomber

[@tubeguy4066]

Here's a fun fact: Kaczynski made several significant mathematical insights when he was a professor. His quotes can still be found in older math books but they always spell his name in an alternate way i.e. (Theodore J. K.)

[@S1LLY_C0ST4_L0V3R]

Interesting. Can you link me to one example? I really would like to see it

[@bonk2910]

@@stoopidapples1596 my man had to advance the industrial revolution to better understand its consequences

[@ACowboyHat]

@@bonk2910 which always rough isn't? Not realizing something is bad until you've invested so much into it?

[@manofcultura]

@@ACowboyHat nothing is bad, only misused. Those who blame tools, are ones.

[@niksatt4843]

That's cool

[@_-_julie_-_7834]

The fact that you got a vpn sponsor on a video about the unabomber's philosophy is beyond priceless

[@cortexualvalue1103]

Surf shark bro 😎

[@Xstxcy]

@@cortexualvalue1103 😂😂😭

[@timo4258]

why is it priceless? he isn't preaching the ideology, he is just talking about it. Well i didn't watch the video yet maybe he is preaching it idk.

[@spiderduckpig]

@@timo4258 Spitting in the unabomber's face

[@I_like_turtles_67]

Some smooth-brained people. Will not understand the hilarity of this. Brandon would like to thank those people for their vote.

[@dr.woozie7500]

The irony is that we are all observing the Unabomber's ideals through the medium of the Internet and many of us would have never discovered his manifesto if it were not for the Internet.

[@EightUp000]

I didnt think ab it like that

[@glowmobile596]

Like Uncle Ted said in his manifesto, it is ok to use the technology to facilitate the destruction of the technology

[@daddydevito4405]

ISAIF 202

[@insanitycubed8832]

I think that's impossible to know. Without the internet we would still have been exposed to a lot by our local groups, but maybe not the Unabomber

[@tcaw8813]

@@glowmobile596 the problem is that shallowly support of his beliefs and share his beliefs with memes and all, but never do anything. It just functions to sedate people more than ever. They can post an image, and act as though thats enough, it's like guy debord writes. The revolution is cut off by it's image. People get to feel the revolutionary sentiment without engaging in the revolution. Him becoming a meme dooms his ideas more than the suppression of it Also this guy choosing to show "funny trans Ted" shows hes more interested in the sensational Ted than the philosopher revolutionary Ted.

[@dio1390]

The Manifesto being an audiobook is a peak irony💀💀

[@jma0645]

True

[@spicymeatballs2thespicening]

lmao

[@maksimblya192]

Yoooo this is peak irony bruuuhhh 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@booboodoodoo5513]

@@maksimblya192 fr bruh dis irony shit had my balls jigglign and giggling bruhhh

[@maksimblya192]

@@booboodoodoo5513 fr fr rt rt bruh 😭😭🤣🤣😂😂

[@notafascist3171]

Strange how a road can make a man choose between studying nature and dismantling modern society

[@mjolninja9358]

Well if you’re not a fascist

[@MrMagichobo21]

killdozer's final straw was a road built blocking his property

[@jjf1191]

@@mjolninja9358 define fascism

[@mjolninja9358]

@rimacutem of Alsvartrsmiðr jesus christ I was referencing the commenter’s name as a joke, you guys should learn to chill sometime

[@GrandpaRanOverRudolf]

how's studying nature going to help. You'll just have to watch it die.

[@s12830]

I lived in Lincoln Montana when I was a boy, it's a very small town, it's also where the unibomer lived. At the town's convienience store they sold little exploding cabins. I thought y'all should know. Edit: thank you for the likes :)

[@luise8701]

I need one.

[@_-_julie_-_7834]

That's incredible! Thank you sm for sharing!

[@jimc.goodfellas]

And we're now better off for knowing

[@Condorito380]

Good to see business booming up there.

[@Me-eb3wv]

Lol

[@pietroaretino6390]

I read his manifesto. There were plenty of parts where I was like, "Damn... Am I about to agree with the Unibomber?" I did. And I still do. Not everything, but he had some good points.

[@bernardofitzpatrick5403]

Same here

[@ganiniii]

Of course he has good points he was an intelligent man. He was talking about our lives before he even saw them. He knew what was happening, the shackles of technology were being prepared for us in the 70's right when the Internet barely even existed.

[@pietroaretino6390]

@@ganiniii As I said he had very good points, many of which I agree with.

[@jankom.7783]

Problem with people like him is, that he copies and retells philosophy, which other people react positively to. But he himself is not able to live by it, because he does not understand it. And therefore isn't able to take advantage of it. Otherwise he would be successful and content with himself. Instead it twists message of such philosophy to the opposite of its original meaning. The snippets of his philosophy do not come from him, from his experiences. His only contribution is hate towards society, because he is not able to actualize himself within it. And he isn't even able to live without technology (like he wants everybody else to live like), because otherwise he would just stay in forest and not bother anybody. Basically, he wants to bite a hand, that is feeding him.

[@ganiniii]

@@jankom.7783 it seems you made a philosophical soup!!! Resistance to technology exists since the industrial revolution and since the crisis it provoqued that pushed manufacturers into poverty. It's a classical philosophical problem. I am not saying his method is in any way right or productive but he (and any one that defends his position towards technology) could never be happy in a technology based society like ours. It's the CCTV, the constant surveillance through our phones, biometric systems, secret services that make this people unhappy, therefore the classical isolation they always attempt. Society will never be perfect therefore unhappiness will always be there for some. For the misfits if you prefer.

[@MarshmallowEclipse]

One of the most striking concepts expressed by the Unabomber is the opposition to medicating psychological disorders such as anxiety, depression, and paranoia. He believed that drugs such as SSRI's are bad for society because they essentially just make us able to tolerate conditions that we naturally find unacceptable, and I find that to be an extremely powerful assertion.

[@NTNG13]

The thing is some people are depressed by genetic and hereditary matters and not society at all. Even if we lived in his perfect natural world those people would still need SSRI's. Even now the effect of SSRI's is yes to make society more bearable but also that enables people to enact change in society.

[@MarshmallowEclipse]

@@NTNG13 Yes, this is true, but I feel like we're really bad at separating the two.

[@godrilla5549]

@NTNG13 Keep telling yourself that paypig

[@karensabortionclinic7491]

@@NTNG13Environmental changes/influences can be passed down genetically. Look up inter generational trauma/trans generational trauma. There are black americans today who are scared of dogs because of how they were used back then. This is completely oblivious to the fact that social constructs can have long term changes on the body and on a social group for decades and centuries. It’s a very simplified and disingenuous analysis, no offense

[@_DMNO_]

​@@karensabortionclinic7491I sincerely hope you're joking. The trope of black people being scared of dogs is not genetic at all. Prove me otherwise, I don't think you can. That fear of dogs cliche comes from the social upbringing of usually poorer black Americans growing up around aggressive dogs like pitbulls in lower class neighborhoods.

[@Ryan-fe2po]

y'know what they say about the industrial revolution and its consequences

[@aketchupman5103]

Put the pedal to the metal and accelerate technology past it with no speed limit?

[@AnprimGang]

FUCK technology man

[@mocotojam6767]

Bomb it?

[@thepastaprogenitor851]

@@mocotojam6767 unabomb it

[@beareble-lion4446]

Based and Ted pilled

[@dinonuggets7148]

When you finish reading a letter and it says "Sincerely, Theodore j Kaczynski"

[@fibonaccifanzeroviews7839]

😳 DOH !!!

[@niggacockball7995]

well that was a good life

[@tcorourke2007]

If only the FBI had read it all the way to the end.

[@sambutton8494]

bruh moment

[@maocharlisme]

@@konradsartorius7913 I kinda wanna do that actually!

[@ian4233]

Since this video is on the unabomber, i fully expect it to blow up.

[@akshidashottar8842]

* ba tum tushh *

[@scottsvensson5314]

Omfg

[@AuroraAce.]

this but unironically

[@paulb8030]

Three people died for your laugh. Mine too ;D

[@ethandew1768]

Seinfeld theme starts playing

[@zetex146]

There is plastic in my blood There is plastic in my blood There is plastic in my blood There is plastic in my blood There is plastic in my blood There is plastic in my blood There is plastic in my blood There is plastic in my blood There is plastic in my blood There is plastic in my blood There is plastic in my blood There is plastic in my blood There is plastic in my blood There is plastic in my blood There is plastic in my blood

[@holup977]

Yummy

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution 😊

[@marks7037]

Life is plastic It's fantastic There is saliva in my plastic There is stomach in my plastic There is intestine in my plastic There is liver in my plastic There is blood in my plastic There are 1.2 kidneys in my plastic My eyes glaze over, I see plastic flowing through my vision My reproductive organs have been taken from me I cannot scream, for there is plastic where there should be air. I am made of crude oil, and I am here to burn. Everything is fire, just as Heraclitus said. I'm sitting here, a yellow dog amidst flames, cup in hand and high on plastic fumes. All is going to be well.

[@dolphin1418]

@@marks7037Life is plastic

[@christophersnedeker]

​@@dolphin1418it's fantastic

[@Bambino762]

This dude would have had a blast at the world economic forum

[@measlesplease1266]

I wish.

[@jackhayes6969]

🤣

[@jaibonaparte]

If only

[@ghostus3019]

Based ted

[@joasadmiraal6978]

Pun intended?

[@jamesboulger8705]

I am particularly sympathetic with his case on garbage and pollution. It seems incredibly wasteful, and on a daily basis, it makes us confront just how stupidly unclever we are in dealing with this problem. We open a bottle, use it once, throw it out, and get another bottle - who in their right mind thinks this is the optimum way of doing things. It is a naked insanity.

[@deltaxcd]

Well, consider stone age society then when instead of opening a bottle and throwing away you kill a mammoth, chop a piece of meat from its ass and leave remaining 2 tons of meat to rot. Then do the same next week :)

[@jamesboulger8705]

@@deltaxcd The arrival of humans to a new area with large mammals typically resulted in the mass extinction of those animals.

[@deltaxcd]

@@jamesboulger8705 Yes, but I think wasting entire mammoth is more wasteful than throwing away plastic bottle. so things definitely improved :)

[@jamesboulger8705]

@@deltaxcd I would reference Bill Burr's bit on population. He makes a joke that it isn't wasteful to kill a bald eagle in a country with only 5,000 people, because there would be plenty of bald eagles. Likewise, things have not improved - you must look at the global rate at which waste is generated. Noone could deny by any reasonable metric that what we are doing, which is far more wasteful, and when there alternatives. To compare our efficiency against Cro-Magnon man is ludicrous.

[@deltaxcd]

​@@jamesboulger8705 I think it is not the way how you count waste. as you have to count it per person and also take into account quality of life. modern life is far less wasteful than in the stone age or middle ages even if we produce more trash in total. If you attempted to turn the time back with the current population earth woud be destroyed almost instantly because people would chop off and burn every tre kill every living animal and dig up all edible plants then finish by eating each other until nothing is left even for those 5000 remaining.

[@jimothy6888]

13:10 He has a whole chapter about how the "good" technology cannot be separated from the "bad" technology because the good technology such as glasses requires a whole supply chain to produce on a massive scale, and cannot be done without the system. In his book, he uses fridges as an example.

[@X4R2]

Eyeglasses are relatively easy to produce on a small scale. If someone needs to improve their vision, then they can hand craft their own eyeglasses. There are many "good" technologies that are viable on a small scale, if we only produce them where necessary. For example, HVAC is unnecessary in temperate regions, so we could eliminate that production. Also refrigeration is desirable, but it could be replaced by smoking, pickling and drying (other products of science and technology). Science is important for generating ideas. However, people should criticize the utility of ideas. The endless innovation to fuel mass consumption is destructive.

[@jimothy6888]

@@X4R2 Yeah, I read the book. Wrote a report on it too. I was criticizing how the video misrepresented his argument

[@deltaxcd]

@@X4R2 eyeglasses are not really that vital if you are not using technology not that much small stuff to look at and it will be rare for someone to survive until the age when they will be required LOL

[@sillygooberment]

I have glasses. if I went outside more as a kid, I wouldn't need them. I did go outside, but during my early days of eye development, I was in a shitty neighborhood full of assholes and extremely violent and abusing people for no reason. I would be asking random kids to play together as a little kid and they would get hostile, until I lost all my courage to interact with people. and here I am, having a part of my psyche completely ruined.

[@deltaxcd]

@@sillygooberment Not sure it going out more would help with your eyesight. those kind of disorders are purely genetic

[@cjk_02221]

Most of ted’s fans are chronically online people and i find that to be the universes greatest irony Edit: y’all, my comment is not that deep. Y’all dont need to defend yourselves or ted to me, im not listening, i was never listening. I was learning about what ted actually believed besides his well known opening statement in his manifesto. Then i made a stereotype of ted fans based on my observations of multiple accounts on tiktok posting a 25-30 picture’s slewed together in a slideshow of ted affirming memes/posts everyday with the audio “california dreamin” by the mamas & the papas. It was meant to be light hearted comment, but i guess that was lost in translation.

[@urbanumbra6170]

Takes one to know one kinda deal

[@suatcetin9724]

i only have youtube as a social media app

[@cjk_02221]

@@urbanumbra6170 it really doesnt

[@urbanumbra6170]

@@cjk_02221 Chronically online people know more about the online world than grandma. Im explaining why your comment is often the case

[@idunno2019]

Hence why there desperate to get out of that life

[@kyrman6038]

He was one of these men who had a brilliant analysis of the problem but terrible solutions to those problems.

[@makar_on]

Honestly it's a deal with a lot of people and problems. Makes me think that it's either a terrible solution or no solution at all.

[@makar_on]

@Rockwell abolishing technology is a bad solution.

[@cyborgcuttlefish6326]

@Rockwell ah yes because killing random people to essentially achieve nothing was a good solution

[@xp7575]

@Rockwell beats his wife so that the guy at Dunkin Donuts will stop fucking up his coffee

[@joriankell1983]

that's exactly why I gave up on solving my problems

[@devojyotichaki9122]

Ted Kaczynski said "return to monké" before it was cool

[@urangatun]

Yessir

[@bones9845]

This joke was another consequence of the industrial revolution

[@joaovitorreisdasilva9573]

"Return to monkey" was always a low-key nod to Ted lol

[@MisterDillPickle]

Exactly, Ted was featured a lot in the return to monke memes, it's no coincidence

[@hugosoberanes8309]

Monkeeeee

[@cicadasmasher8082]

Ted Kaczynski: MK Ultra Whitey Bulger: MK Ultra Charlie Manson: MK Ultra I think there might be a pattern here.

[@niggacockball7995]

MK Ultra is an experiment that makes people based and redpilled bomb makers?

[@screaminginagony]

@@niggacockball7995 Lol at calling any of those three based. Lil B disapproves.

[@screaminginagony]

@@dogman9429 Lil B The Based God does not need nor seek your approval.

[@screaminginagony]

@@dogman9429 .... and?

[@screaminginagony]

@@dogman9429 I mean I just don't get why you would ever say that about Lil B when you sit there and use the word based.

[@deus905]

Rest in peace big ted, you would’ve loved the apple vision pro

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

Ted Kaczynski's books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, left a lasting impact on me. His analysis of the negative consequences of technological advancement and his call for an anti-tech revolution were both eye-opening and thought-provoking. Highly recommended

[@conorbobonner]

he might've just gone the oppenheimer route if he saw it

[@oilyliver5078]

@@conorbobonneroppenheimer wasn't a terrorist

[@intrusivethoughts3601]

​@@oilyliver5078well... Yeah... About that..

[@Raptorsified]

​@@oilyliver5078idk there's a photo of my great grandfather cleaning what's left of Hiroshima in '46.

[@ericmarley7060]

Parents: "Go outside." Kid: "You can't tell me what to do!" Years Later Ted Kaczynski: "Go outside." Teen: "Wow! Profound!"

[@nomadic-loyalist]

The kid Understands the actions of the parents as he gets older and their worldview widens

[@justadummy8076]

As you age, you will begin to become your parents as you start to see their reason. Children simply lack the lofe experience and mental capacity to understand what is best for them

[@rubysmine592]

@@justadummy8076 You make it seem as though a child is an idiotic being that cannot determine left from right. I do believe many children have the mental capacity to comprehend the reason but most times the person telling a child to do something, rarely gives the reasons as to why they need to do that. They give grandiose reasoning saying to just trust them on it and that, "you'll understand when you're older". People need to see children as more than mindless beings to cram information into. The young are tomorrows saviors. Remember that

[@justadummy8076]

Rubys Mine I never said children were stupid, but they do lack maturity and wisdom, in the example above, the parent tells the kid to go outside because outside play is conducive to health and exercise whilst playing which keeps it fun, and they also get Vitamin D from the sun, but the kid is usually led by short term thinking and quick and easy gratification rather than seeing the bigger picture of realising that if all they do is play games inside on a chair and putting it off, their health will eventually decline, and it’s easy to fall into that kind of routine. And plus there is truth to the “not understanding till your older” it’s difficult to explain things in a way that children will understand the ulterior motives sometimes, for example most kids see maths as a bore and no matter how much you explain why it’s important, it will not change their feelings in the present until they are older and basic mathematic skills become second nature.

[@tony_5156]

He does have SOME fantastic point tho Don’t be a degenerate

[@nathancourtney94]

The difference in the “stoic” reactions Ted describes is that “natural” processes are not by design. Nobody is at fault for creating or allowing them so a stoic reaction is only reasonable. When the boundaries of your freedom are instead a creation of your fellow man the reaction has somewhere to aim.

[@JoshTheOther]

If a group of people successfully collapsed society and returned us to a state of being threatened by "natural" processes, then yes--somebody is at fault for allowing them to have that power over us

[@nathancourtney94]

​@@JoshTheOther The destruction of society means the destruction of the tools needed to change and improve society. Fault can be found in the factors causing a "natural" state but a solution will not be available. The reduction of economy and society means the reduction of complexity and scale to compete locally, socially and economically. People don't have to "blame" at that point they can just DO.

[@idonteatspiders2986]

I.... don't get it

[@nathancourtney94]

@idonteatspiders which comment escapes you? The original comment or my response to JoshTheOther?

[@idonteatspiders2986]

@@nathancourtney94 the original

[@ErraticMagics]

I think the main difference is not that primitive man has more control in a real sense, but that he doesn't delude himself into thinking he or his civilization has control over everything.

[@andrewhooper7603]

I don't think the majority of people today think we have control over everything though. Yes, there is a population of people who think they're "in the know" and see patterns in every cobblestone, but most people aren't like that.

[@ErraticMagics]

@@andrewhooper7603 I guess worded it poorly... I meant that they "could" or "should" control everything. And yes it doesn't apply to everyone equally.

[@theangrydweller1002]

@@andrewhooper7603 90% of the population is religion and that all revolves around the fact that everything is apart of some plan

[@vaskenf3421]

Ultra based take🙌

[@ianhumphreys3529]

@@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork Correct, this video critically misunderstands the power dynamics, and they are the core of the philosophy. Surrogate activities are a replacement for the power struggles, not a separate thing. Nature isn't just trees to him it's human nature, to fuck, and fight and hunt like an animal. Of course sewers and glasses make life better, that's the problem to him.

[@ppangbinie]

Hey Sisyphus 55, I absolutely love your channel and just wanted to let you know that my AP Seminar teacher showed your video in our class today in a study of this manifesto. I was so happy to see your iconic voice and art. Thanks for the content always! Love you

[@jussehwagner3166]

Honestly you are doing him a bit of a disservice. He didn't belive that sending those bombs would stop the industrial society. He did it for attention for his cause, and when the times published his manifest he won.

[@keyboardcruiser1799]

You didn't think this through. He bombed to get attention to his manifesto, so that this attention can then fuel a stop of the industrial society. Thus - bombing was fully well intended to stop the industrial society, just not directly; indirectly by the long-term culminations of the attention through said initial bombing.

[@callmeishmael5742]

"he won" uh oh

[@wiswc]

"He won" yeah his work became a meme on the internet

[@Shadow77999]

​@@wiswc So in the end his plan of spreading his ideas succeeded, yea he won. i dont think someone like ted is stupid enough to think he could have done this by himself

[@ben76326]

Idk "won" is kind of a strong word. Sure his ideas were spread, but they aren't seriously considered outside of some very fringe circles. Ultimately his ideas are more commonly used as the vapid entertainment he railed against, rather than inspiring a genuine political movement.

[@awsd2432]

"Many men, wish death upon me Blood in my eye, dawg I can't see I'm trying be what I'm destined to be..."

[@MegaBizzar]

"But niggas trying to take my life away. Many men"

[@pgarrett6665]

Random....but I feel it. 50

[@cypher1160]

Idk if you saw the meme i did but ik itss a song but there was a meme where it was just pictures of ted being arrested, had to save it was fucking GOLD

[@jkohnson]

@@cypher1160 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp_Zq4h3ic2DlZI

[@EUSA1776]

“Sunny days wouldn't be special, if it wasn't for rain Joy wouldn't feel so good, if it wasn't for pain Death gotta be easy 'cause life is hard It'll leave you physically, mentally, and emotionally scarred” The artists get there before the philosophers, the philosophers before the politicians, the politicians before the people.

[@TheRCish]

You are missing another piece the distinction he makes between the problems of primitive man vs the problems of modern man: the primitive man's problems exist because of the natural state of the environment he lives in; the modern man's problems are inflicted upon him by the manmade structures and hierarchies within which he lives, his problems are entirely of human creation are are thus unnecessary, unjust, and altogether unacceptable for him to be required to bear.

[@nothingineternityterms]

How does that make the primitive man's life better or preferable to the modern man's in any way? It's like arguing that a person who dies at age 5 of an incurable genetic disease is better off than if he or she could survive to adult age and get locked up for a couple of years on drug charges.

[@snippletrap]

Trails through the woods are man made but no one consciously designed them. Many human institutions, customs, and hierarchies emerge spontaneously from our nature and from complex patterns of collective behavior. These are no more unfair or unjust than their counterparts in the animal world.

[@dragonknightleader1]

@@nothingineternityterms To quote the Manifesto, "It is true that primitive man is powerless against some of the things that threaten him; disease for example. But he can accept the risk of disease stoically. It is part of the nature of things, it is no one’s fault, unless it is the fault of some imaginary, impersonal demon. But threats to the modern individual tend to be MAN-MADE. They are not the results of chance but are IMPOSED on him by other persons whose decisions he, as an individual, is unable to influence. Consequently he feels frustrated, humiliated and angry." He then goes on to say that the industrial society monopolizes power into the hands of a few, who also are restricted in their freedom. We know this is true because of the moralization of Big Tech upon the rest of us. Shadow banning, verification, forced unsubcription, and banning accounts are done to all users beyond the neutral goals of blatant illegality.

[@aesop1451]

@@snippletrap Yes. Dying at a young age from a disease that could've been prevented is terrible, but the Industrial Revolution created a dysgenic society that is way worst. A dysgenic society promotes the survival and perpetuation of unhealthy people and ideas

[@Kittysuit]

@@nothingineternityterms i don't think anyone made that claim. but you cant tell me that there isn't a difference between the threat of disease and the threat of dumping chemicals in natural bodies of water. one is a natural occurrence; our terrestrial reality if you will, that go by the laws of nature. whereas the other one is forced upon us by other human beings. you are always in control of yourself and how to deal with reality, but why would i want to deal with a reality that is damaged by others; beyond my reach. they are two different things.

[@skipelen]

best rapper out there, No one will ever create songs like him 🙏🙏

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

I recently finished reading Ted Kaczynski's works, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and I must say, they were absolutely captivating! Kaczynski's deep insights into the dangers of technology and his thought-provoking arguments made for an incredible read.

[@funnelwebb4321]

@@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob unfortunately bro perished recently

[@HunterBidensHandgun]

Bruh I was literally researching him so I could better reference him in some lyrics I'm writing lmao. No I do not endorse his actions

[@bunghoIio]

always dropping bombs of albums

[@elcapo8860]

​@@bunghoIio😂

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[@TheFlynCow]

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[@antonhelsgaun]

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[@Xeno_Ice]

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[@Sasha11601]

@spindletea that was a fun fact

[@Julie-bu2mo]

the unabomber went to my highschool, one of very few people that went to harvard from there

[@MentalMMManiac]

Your conclusion piece sounds to me like you only read his manifesto as to influence your opinion of his philosophy. This is evident in you calling him a natural idealist with his conception of "the noble savage". If you read Technological Slavery, a book of his collected writings, the third book 'The truth about primitive life: a critique of anarcho-primitivism' he explicitly takes to task those who think primitive life is easier and better (especially in a social sense re: leftism). Here, he puts himself in direct contrast to people like Zerzan who believe nature is more equitable and that social inequality is a product of socialization and industrialization. Ted goes to great lengths detailing many indigenous peoples studies to emphasize his point as he is very well read on how primitive life deals with the hardships of primitivism. He doesn't think primitivism is this Nobel savage simplicity but finds the savage to be happier as a result of freedom, not being subjected to the artificial 'System'

[@potatopotato-lf1ns]

Huh

[@alexanderschoenbrunn6696]

His argument is still flawed to me. He still dances around the fact that primitive life generally sucks and his ideas of primitivism seem very loose, based on what you said.

[@ian_silent]

Yeah, I honestly was somewhat surprised with his conclusions... Kaczynski explicitly criticized anarcho-primitivism! And Sisyphus' videos are usually better researched than this. But what else can you expect from a VPN-peddeling e-celeb.

[@hoseja]

@@alexanderschoenbrunn6696 Yes it sucks. But consider that nation-states and other "systems" are naturally evolved (since about the invention of agriculture. The weak just died. The Pandora's Box of technology mentioned in the video is an evolutionary Red Queen's race.) meme-complexes with their own agenda (in fact, it is this agenda that people have been robbed of) and very strong sense of self-preservation, that most people are totally, if seemingly softly (just placated enough not to revolt), subservient to. He says "but people can go live in a cabin in Montana!" What do you think would happen if significant fraction of people chose to do that?

[@MentalMMManiac]

@@alexanderschoenbrunn6696 read the actual essay instead of taking my KZbin comment summary at face value

[@notdude0]

What I love about this content creator, is that he’s like Sam o nella but with an actual upload schedule

[@davidochieng9296]

You should read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution!

[@davidochieng9296]

You should read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution!

[@zpettigrew]

Hate to say this. I read his whole manifesto when I was in my early 20s. Not one thing I could definitively and certainly 'disagree' with.

[@Vitorruy1]

I thought the same but just because the manifesto was so evasive, he often try and step back when he find himself coming out too strong, every chapter is a variation of "I know what you are thinking but wait!"

[@chinggiskhan6678]

Unabomber: The Sequel: The Movie: The Game: The Parable

[@nothingineternityterms]

Eh...that's not the best endorsement really.

[@liam.config]

His observations are really good. His conclusions are pretty questionable. His solutions are stupid.

[@MrCmon113]

You can't disagree with the notion that you shouldn't have any empathy for strangers?

[@gksr5593]

1:50 you made the “now back to the video” slide a little longer so that people who are double clicking to fast forward have a higher chance on landing there. You’re awesome for that one!

[@Kitsune-kun663]

Ted doesn't say that all technology is bad, he says that technology works as a whole. He says that you can't keep the good parts of technology without keeping the whole system altogether. About not being able to accept modern problems "stoically", he states that it is because modern problems are man made, we know that someone has the power to affect our lives, but we can do nothing about it, while nature's problems are just things that are completely out of control of any human being. There are more mistakes in this video, but I'm not in the mood to argue about them, I'm just gonna leave these two things so people who watched it don't take this video as being completely right about Kaczynski's philosophy. Go read the man, his manifesto and other writings and, better yet, go read Ellul.

[@seraphini1248]

he was an idiot, the video shows how confused and backwards his logic was. he was a psycho, not a scholar.

[@ahmedelakrab]

Many of nature's problems become man made the moment you have the means to overcome them but refuse to due to a silly ideological commitment to the notion of dismantling modernism. Diseases is the prime example.

[@1leon000]

@@seraphini1248 finally, somebody with common sense

[@Joe-hd2pm]

Do y’all really think that collapsing society is going to lead to a better life? Have ever considered what that future might actually be like? Do you think maybe you kids will benefit? or maybe their kids? Have you ever looked at what life was like even a hundred years ago? First of all it would take unimaginable death and suffering to achieve this and by the off chance you survive the wars and famine you be left to toil away in regret. Ted has no real answer to the problems he sees he just can’t get over the fact that his life isn’t in his control and nether is anyone else’s’, and that will never change.

[@langskeppet9887]

@@Joe-hd2pm and yet, thousands, no millions more will die and have died because of industrial society. If everyone would be living like Kaczynski there would be no more war, plague or poverty, there would be peace among man.

[@faraday9234]

There is a lot of sound reason in this man. But we also have to acknowledge his pessimism, and his radical threshold for violence. Also, hes such an idealogue, he didnt realise that the entire world would have to participate. At the very end, this guy points these crucial points out very wonderfully.

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

I was captivated by Kaczynski's intellectual prowess showcased in Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution. From his prison cell, he exposes the perils of our tech-dependent world with remarkable clarity. If you're interested in thought-provoking literature, don't miss out on these exceptional books! #RipTed

[@shadierark7011]

@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob It’s wildly disrespectful to say rest in peace to a terrorist who killed 3 innocent people and injured dozens more. #RIPHughScrutton #RIPThomasJ.Mosser #RIPGilbertBrentMurray

[@slimboarder.o7]

Ted kazincky is the kind of guy who wishes for the world to live in a way he was never able to Bro couldn't harvest crops and he heavily relied on his parent's income

[@faraday9234]

@@slimboarder.o7 Idealism

[@19MAD95]

I have a shared Amazon account and whenever I get a package that I wasn’t expecting I always say “Hey guys look Uncle Ted sent us another one!”

[@SentMyOwnWay]

Imagine what this dude would have done if he knew what the consequences of the internet would be.

[@andrea6254]

He knows, he's still alive and has written subsequent books furthering his ideas

[@calvo1002]

@@andrea6254wait really?

[@jonathanbuge1]

if bro found out about rule 34 humanity wouldve been doomed

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

​@@andrea6254 Well, not anymore

[@andrea6254]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 You guys just had to jinx it didn’t you

[@Ajc-ni3xn]

I love how old timey psychology was just “I like research and thinking so I’m gonna do crimes about it”

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

We are still doing that. They may not be legal crimes, but vivisection is undoubtedly a moral crime

[@Not_blue_000]

The same goes for medicine.

[@poika22]

@@Sergio-nb4hj Vivisections aren't "undoubtedly" a moral crime. You might consider them such, but there is much to doubt. I, along with most of the medical community, are of the opinion that saving human lives as a consequence of testing on animals is a moral good. No amount of suffering caused to animals changes that.

[@trampoline11x]

It is shocking just how much I've heard _of_ the Unabomber, yet never actually learned anything about him. Like that he was a mathematical prodigy, a young professor, subjected himself to psychological experiments apparently, had an 'experience' with gender reassignment briefly, held strong ecological standards, and just- Besides the turn to violence and hatred, he was by far a seriously phenomenal character and I just cant believe I was never told anything about him.

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution 😊

[@ArchSchizo]

He could have been more influential if his writings weren't discarded as a lunatic serial killer's egotistical ramblings. His criminal activity gave him short-term notoriety, but severely damaged any long-term respect. You could argue any philosopher THAT desperate to spread his message must not be very confident in his own writings.

[@nossravgni8707]

@@ArchSchizo "Paragraph 96. "If we had never done anything violent and had submitted the present writings to a publisher, they probably would not have been accepted. If they had been been accepted and published, they probably would not have attracted many readers, because it’s more fun to watch the entertainment put out by the media than to read a sober essay. Even if these writings had had many readers, most of these readers would soon have forgotten what they had read as their minds were flooded by the mass of material to which the media expose them. In order to get our message before the public with some chance of making a lasting impression, we’ve had to kill people." If Theodore Kaczynski had never killed, you would have probably never heard of him or about his work. This very video would not exist. Not to mention that he killed people who he saw as contributing to the growth and continuation of the industrial society.

[@dimitrifake53]

​@nossravgni8707 So you saying if your family was killed by his actions to publish his books, you would be fine?

[@nossravgni8707]

@@dimitrifake53 That is not the point I am trying to prove. I think that Theodore Kaczynski is confident in his own writings, contrary to what ArchSchizo wrote. I am not justifying the killings he committed.

[@htth3152]

Funnily enough, Ted has an essay where he criticises anarcho-primitivism, expaining that life without technology is actually often quite harsh and unhappy, but states that it would be worth it because being free is better. Also somewhere in the Manifesto he acknowledges the possibility of a technological society to be fairly happy (with all the work being automated and people engaging in "small hobbies" or something like that), but says it wouldn't be worthwhile. It seems to me his believes stem more from his value system placing freedom above happiness, rather than the calculation that technology is bad for said happiness. Though I'm not sure, I should probably read the Manifesto to the end.

[@lordofleaves257]

Yeah, he does acknowledge a lot of things from the other side. But he still seems to default to primitive people's were happier because they had more control over their lives. Which may be true, and that could be a good conversation to have. But to come to the insane conclusion that we need to regress society back to a state of primitiveness is crazy. It's like he just wanted an easy way out rather than going to the painstaking and admittedly complicated process of finding a way to mesh our modern technology in a way that would let us be happier. Nobody said society would be easy, but hitting the "it's bad I wanna go back" button is just a cop out in all respects

[@darkacadpresenceinblood]

i've read the manifesto, yeah the part you mention highkey just says "yea okay people MIGHT become happy even with technology🙄🙄 not the kind of happy that i believe is valid tho so fuck that they don't deserve to be happy that way"

[@dadcraft9949]

"Being free is better" - every popular philosophy espoused by any sort of US libertarian holds up "freedom" as the ultimate prize in life but doesn't define it. At this point I'm starting to think "freedom" is a lazy byword for "what if you were world-king and everyone did everything your way", and everyone espousing such a philosophy is nothing more than a narcissist who is incapable of conceiving that anyone who disagrees with them is anything other than an intellectual prisoner of whatever aspect of life the philosopher is being neurotic about today.

[@lordperson5762]

@@lordofleaves257 its because technology is moving in a way where no man will have any liberty their bodies their thoughts their work will all be controlled and monitored by the government like in china and ontop of that humsns are making more and more deadly weapons aswell as bio weapons capable of decimating the human population it is irrational to see such a future as worse then his ideal of returning the world to a primitive state it is a worthy sacrifice if we are to be safe and free

[@plebulus]

@@dadcraft9949 jesus fuck that is the most enlightened shit I've heard in my life

[@hedhlytaha652]

i just finished reading his manifesto and i came to youtube to learn about him more and BOOM my favorite youtuber post a video about it damn what a coincidence

[@BC-hu6yq]

I hope "boom" was intentional

[@hedhlytaha652]

@Coom Lord exactly thats why he's nailing his job, his position there not to pick a side tho but his job is to explain to us all the sides and to stay in the center and honestly i dont think that its an easy job at all

[@hedhlytaha652]

@@BC-hu6yq coincidence xD i think not

[@plederfagella9774]

It wasn't a coincidence it's a calling for action

[@TheTylrBllmn]

What was your take on the manifesto

[@d0ubl3d]

We’re all def on a watchlist for clicking on this video

[@Stereocrabs]

there was nothing i could do, it was recommended. They set us up

[@blueguy5714]

@@Stereocrabs its a set up

[@dr.woozie7500]

It’s a trap!

[@flyingtarantula9091]

Doubt that

[@serotonin.scavenger]

Eh, at this point, bombing some keypoints in my country would only end up making it better.

[@skipelen]

"Noooo you just cant build a road in my sacred forest"

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution 👌

[@harrisbrown3588]

Thank you for making this video, it's particularly timely. I've seen a few too many videos of people filling plastic bags with gasoline lately so my faith in humanity is barely limping along.

[@PauaP]

Eh... those sort of people will always be here tbh. People do dumb things, even you and I do it from time to time.

[@Vitorruy1]

Why

[@PRubin-rh4sr]

Humanity does not give a shit where your faith lies in it. No offense 😝

[@bigjoe8087]

@@PRubin-rh4sr I think there's better ways of wasting your time and resources on the internet than writing this kind of response No offense 😝

[@ericsuperdietz9936]

loved the part about his parents still sending him money as a grown adult to live in the woods after giving up on his education and dream job of his peers

[@davidochieng9296]

You should read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution!

[@jeremymr]

The high school I went to, Thomas Worthington in Ohio, has a class called Poli Rad (which stands for political radicalism) in which all sorts of extremists and people with weird perspectives and ideologies are invited in to speak and answer questions. My understanding is this class has been around for years, and the Unabomber was one of the people they had in to speak a couple times. I'm not sure how many more years this class will be around, but it was something I'll never forget and I think a valuable experience even though it was super uncomfortable at times.

[@derbybOyzZ]

bullshit they let him out of a supermax to speak to highschool kids. lmao

[@jeremymr]

@@derbybOyzZ Oh my bad, it was Bill Ayers, I somehow got him confused with the Unabomber!

[@davidochieng9296]

You should read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution!

[@microsoftpain]

that is... rather interesting. I've never heard of any school doing something like that before. "We don't wanna radicalize the kids, yada yada" and yet there are teenage girls on the internet that are in love with the Columbine shooters. 💀

[@jeremymr]

@microsoftpain it's one thing to watch videos of radicals online, a whole different experience for them to be right there in front of you. In my opinion, it makes radicalization less likely. You're like oh shit, these people are serious. Some of the speakers were pretty scary.

[@Braniel]

Since Mr. Kaczynski died today, I came to this video to learn more about him. My opinion of his ideals, personally, range from "Yeah, let him cook" to "Shoulda never let this man cook"

[@beautifulspacer2861]

Honestly, he shouldn't have killed to spread the ideals, but should have found another way. Either book writing or something else.

[@genericpseudoname160]

@@beautifulspacer2861 Most of us wouldn't have heard of it then, simple as. Obedience to the social machine and the status quo is what enabled technology to enslave us - it wouldn't have been in his best interest to play by society's rule in order to destroy the industrial society.

[@dyc02]

@@beautifulspacer2861He says in the book that he had to kill people for his book to be read, as it was the only way he saw fit to keep his ideology relevant.

[@aqua4089]

@@genericpseudoname160No I think it’s simple really, if you have to kill people to spread your message then that is not a message worth spreading

[@Raptorsified]

​@@beautifulspacer2861Ted's ideals have been shared many times over. If he doesn't kill he doesn't create the notoriety. Are you and I here to learn about the writings of Ted Kaczynski the academic or Ted Kaczynski the Unabomber.

[@camazotzz]

both sewers and eyeglasses are pre-industrial inventions, recorded music is a mixed blessing.

[@dakedres]

Is that a pun?

[@plissken4451]

I don't see why there should be a distinction. Glasses are still a product of industry /industrial society as are irrigation, mills, aqueducts etc. Industrial society in reality predates the 1800s industrial revolution, did Ted understand this? The 1700s weren't the noble savage living in a cave. The industrial revolution is just a speeding up of technological progress and we'd get to this point either way. It would be very hard to go to a time before mass production, because that includes mass production of food aka the Neolithic Revolution which had the same effects he's complaining about with regards to socialisation and dependence (but it seemed like a bigger plus than minus for some reason...). Division of labour was already a thing in at least 5000 BC. Not only is he unable to draw the line the line is one under the best circumstances made in sand, a pre-industrial society will see the marginal utility of industrialisation -because not everyone has the same view of happiness as he does Careful industrialisation so that it primarily serves to improve the lives of humanity is miles better than mass deindustrialisation. It's why our lives in the west are better nowadays than those in the days of child labour factories and super polluted cities, because we already recognised this and remedied those things, Europe is better at this. He says while this is possible it wouldn't be worth it, because he wouldn't be happy even with that due to not being free of the negatives. Ted comes off as someone who grew up in a city his entire life (and then california) and is a victim of the oversocialisation that he describes, and driven to extremism by it because he was overexposed and failed to see the communities and villages that are just fine and not omg destroyed! by industrialisation. The same goes for the teens who fall in love with what he has to say, anyone who is well adjusted recognises that industrial society isn't ruining our lives or at least doesn't let it ruin theirs. If Ted grew up in the 2000s he'd be one of those kids who doesn't touch grass ever and then posts on reddit that we live in a society. He thinks people spend most of their "unfulfilling lives" (projection) doing useless things like "scientific work" (yes he thinks many people spend their lives on that, gee i wonder if it has anything to do with spending his life pursuing the study of geometric function theory...) and "following sports teams", and that it's because of the industrial revolution because he lacks historical knowledge or even just understanding of how the human mind works for non autistic people. I mean the guy skipped multiple grades and his friends said he was emotionally unprepared and socially stunted, that's before he got psychologically abused for 3 years for the study. No wonder he thinks nobody has a life lol Some of his ideas have a point (everyone recognises how we interact with technology can have some negative effects) but it's clearly all coming from a self-centered individual experience and outlook of a maladjusted, well I don't wanna call him a loser because it sounds childish, but a self-admittedly "unfulfilling life" that he's unable to stoically deal with. That alienation he ascribes mainly to the consequences of industrial society. And I haven't even mentioned his methods (This wasn't all addressed to your comment it's just my thoughts)

[@davidochieng9296]

You should read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution!

[@Urketadic]

glasses are not needed naturally... only modern humans need them

[@amhuman5138]

@@Urketadic Yes they are, humans can be short or farsighted at birth, thus glasses are a raise in life quality.

[@barejon2733]

think this will reach more people if you add like "The Philosophy of the Unabomber (Ted Kaczynski)" in the title

[@sorrychangedmyusername3594]

Unabomber would be the most badass war plane I have never heard of.

[@callmeishmael5742]

He did

[@tbobtbob330]

I'm a retired electrical engineer, and I also think that technology has had a horrifying effect on humanity. I think Kazynski was absolutely right in his analysis of the past, and thoroughly delusional in his ideas on how to fix it. I see no realistic way out of an extended dark age for humanity starting in the next few years.

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

I recently finished reading Ted Kaczynski's works, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and I must say, they were absolutely captivating! Kaczynski's deep insights into the dangers of technology and his thought-provoking arguments made for an incredible read !! #RipTed

[@oliviag6407]

Definitely. It seems like we are becoming less and less human. I’m young (15), and it scares me that I potentially have a lot of life left to live. It’s so prevalent that escape is near-impossible. I want to make a change and speak out against it but I’m only one person, and it’s already consumed so many to rely on it that I feel hopeless. Electronic devices are being given to extremely young children, often even at the age of 1, making the next generation more reliant on technology, and using it more normalized.

[@rafaelfreire3792]

Yeah let's ignore capitalism. The problem must be technology

[@teerboyd]

“Ted Kaczynski should be released from prison” “Can you elaborate on that?” *”no.”*

[@kroneexe]

He'd probably send more bombs if he was released. Well, he'll be dead within the year, but still.

[@ironjazz39]

You know its gonna be a wild day when you see this in your sub box

[@Vlad_Salami_Gamig]

Even more wild if you get it through your mailbox

[@blueguy5714]

@@Vlad_Salami_Gamig even more wild when you get a helicopter outside your house

[@dheeraj_one]

Rewatching this in June 2023. R.I.P. Unabomber

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

Ted Kaczynski's books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, challenged my perspective on the role of technology in our lives. His arguments against its unchecked growth and the potential loss of our individual freedom were both persuasive and deeply thought-provoking. A remarkable and thought-provoking read! Rip Ted!

[@leoalphaproductions8642]

This dude hated both the left and the right, and saw both parties for what they really were, way before it was cool.

[@foxgloveXmusic]

i got an ad for a schizophrenia medication before this video lmao

[@Echani3007]

Who's ready to turn up on that 'Anprim Anthem'? 🍗

[@jasonbelstone3427]

Modern Society? Big Mistake!

[@OZUndead]

Part of the plague.

[@theidioticbgilson1466]

@@jasonbelstone3427 me speak of love and not of hate but even speaking big mistake so...

[@oc4025]

Ooga booga bo

[@alexrogers777]

if you know you know 💅

[@brianpeck4035]

The Insanity. The idea that the fabric of human causality has been warped by malign members of that very fabric, and that it's possible to go back and freeze a developmental moment in technological time is just unreasonable.

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

Ted Kaczynski's books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, present a thought-provoking critique of the role of technology in our lives. Highly recommended ! #RipTed.

[@psy-fi64]

@@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob A bot being used to spam comments promoting anarcho-primitivsm is just so beautifully ironic

[@karvikudou3509]

13:42 man can't handle pollution stoically because it is created by man. Man can be stoic about a bear attacking him, because he didn't put that bear there.

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

I was captivated by Kaczynski's intellectual prowess showcased in Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution. From his prison cell, he exposes the perils of our tech-dependent world with remarkable clarity. If you're interested in thought-provoking literature, don't miss out on these exceptional books! #RipTed !

[@andrewbevan3933]

I suspect that had Kazynski, instead of becoming the Unabomber, spent his life in academia, writing books and publishing papers, he would likely have found wide admiration within academic circles for his supposedly bold, insightful critiques of industrialization. Though, it seems to me that the main difference between him and a lot of millennials who, resenting their lack of wherewithal to make something meaningful of their lives, whine about what an unfulfilling sham their comfortable modern life is, is that he put his money where his mouth was.

[@johnwayne1591]

Welcome to the watch list guys. It’s great to have you.

[@muhuddunmedia]

This is gonna blow up soon

[@weaponizedestrogen]

So true

[@blueguy5714]

Like the packages he mailed

[@johnlocke1977]

HIs actions were extreme but he was right about human beings and technology in his essay, The FBI love to claim credit for his capture but he was running rings around them for over 3 decades, his brother ratted him out; without his assistance the FBI would be searching.

[@gerardolsen1068]

this is a funny paradigm, can be solved even by logical induction alone. if something is right/real/ideal for 39 of things it express/show/tell and wrong/fake/deficient/ for remaining 1 thing. it is probably (i mean real probability) your mistake by how you define right/real/ideal and wrong/fake/deficient. if something has a standard to (i will not sort /'s anymore) expressing the 39 right, it is more likely to express remaining 1 more right too. in the case of it is really a wrong point, it should be a bigger or complex point to analyze than 39 points, and this point equivalent to bombings, violent actions by public opinion. i guess everyone will agree with me on this: in all system analyzes and revolution calls, the methods of something which is admitted to it, revolution,resistance or whatever you call, logically should be less controversial by meaning of big and small or 10-9. (big is thing to do and small is how to do there) this is just an logical explanation,i will not go for political or sociological structure of making something that changes in people or people' lives. lastly, the point you are making is in the fundamental, more likely to be elective or ethical. if you understand my points, i dont see a reason to say that why you think someone was all right but wrong in "one thing".

[@OneBiasedOpinion]

His brother ratted him out because he got a little sloppy. It’s also entirely possible he legitimately didn’t care if he got caught if it meant his manifesto got published.

[@Ghajlalalala]

Who would’ve guessed that the biggest fans of Kaczynski would be the tech-nerds

[@davidochieng9296]

You should read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution!

[@peachpie3597]

@@davidochieng9296 can you stop commenting on every fucking comment?

[@boiledelephant]

Many of the most outspoken voices warning of the dangers of drugs are former addicts. Tech nerds are intimately familiar with the downsides of technology.

[@vasilijenicic6806]

Tech nerds actually understand technology. I'd say there is a point to be made there. i heard a joke: "One guy: Man, I don't know much about tech, but ai got smart phone, smart fridge, smart watch etc. IT guy: Only tech I have in the house is a printer, and I got a glock next to it in case it starts making noise I dont recognize"

[@bigjoseph1876]

IVE WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS DAY

[@HailAres]

I like how a VPN that can protect your data searches is advertised on a unabomber explanation video

[@ingwerschorle_]

we needed this

[@JacobC479]

Imagine if you could bring him to a busy restaurant on a Saturday night and show him how many kids and even adults are glued to a screen while they’re with company.

[@theclawlives]

I can't believe this is just a free video you can watch on KZbin. This was very good, 10 points to technology for this video

[@davidochieng9296]

You should read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution!

[@heeseunglee6605]

Have a nice day everyone! I'll try my best myself!!

[@emin9583]

nice

[@davebryan1890]

Thanks - hope you did have a good day friendly stranger

[@antonio373]

Rad

[@kidflersh7807]

Based comment

[@napppstar0]

Just watched good will hunting with my partner and had to explain to the una-bomber reference. Surprised more people don't know this man's story.

[@sakketin]

Isn't he extremely famous in the U.S to this day?

[@tubeguy4066]

@@sakketin people only know him as the "crazy dude that mailed bombs everywhere"

[@sakketin]

@@tubeguy4066 Oh that makes sense. I didn't know about his philosophy until recently either.

[@Novozymandiaz]

Outside the USA and memes, nobody knows him

[@lucalinadreemur9448]

Eh he's pretty forgettable.

[@bensanders5681]

You had me up until the end. He literally had a section in ISAIF where he explains how you can’t have the “good” technology like glasses without the bad technology. Mass producing glasses on a global scale requires a global supply chain and all the recourse extraction that comes with the plastics and materials used to make glasses.

[@davidochieng9296]

"I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great..

[@rosejames5172]

​@@davidochieng9296He was delusional.

[@Robespierre-lI]

As much as I'm very much in favor of the principle of "Sometimes terrible people produce valuable things. Separate the work from the person's moral failings..." Unibomber philosophy is a step too far for me. It's not like "This filmmaker was a genius ... And also a kiddy fiddler". In this case the ideas are directly related to his murdering. Besides, he wasn't actually all that original or insightful. Others have connected criticisms of technological society and corrosion of nature by it. In fact, it was present in 19th century philosophy and then revised with the rise of environmentalist writings in the 1950s. The best we can say about him is that he was a lost soul who lost his sanity - something that can be very tumultuous for people of extraordinarily high intelligence.

[@dsm5d723]

As the Y2K Bug, I am his heir, with no people or money, and no cabin in the woods. I became a bio-weapon to save myself as a caged animal. Who wants to poke the Alien again?

[@tubeguy4066]

Based

[@1whospeaks]

He wasnt trying to close the Pandoras Box, but instead wipe out everyone who can understand its contents. He is the worst kind of idealist, one that doesn't understand that the choice of man, modern or otherwise, is still unchanged, and we can still choose to cooperate with the system in any amount we please.

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution .👌.

[@dragonplayz6606]

He got taxed in the woods

[@Ant_47]

But for how much longer will that be possible?

[@jordonbrewer2354]

I would watch a whole series of this.

[@sadpee7710]

after like the first paragraph, which is coherent, he just goes on a rant about SJWs, political correctness and how there are inferior races. he gets treated as if he's different from these other manifesto mass killers but he's not. just as incoherent and insane, just as worthy to be forgotten.

[@janky3201]

he's worthy of remembering but not in a good light the same light you look at adolf or other scumbags

[@sadpee7710]

@@janky3201 good point actually. certainly doesn't deserve his mythic status, different from the kind of attention we give other mass shooters and the like

[@IvanVKlik]

he was right

[@janky3201]

@@IvanVKlik you are literally what he hated

[@IvanVKlik]

@@janky3201 wrong. self-hating neoliberal cultists like you are what he hated, but keep projecting

[@JonCollinsMedia]

Industrial age is moving forward while leaving mankind behind.

[@Tarik360]

The "most primitive" state we could reach after a possible collapse may actually be a new dark age since it's kinda hard for every engineer, surgeon, welder and so on to unlearn what they have learned and to burn down their workshops.

[@44142726]

"It's not clear why the modern man can't also accept problems out of their control stoically" - pretty sure this is addressed, maybe not explicitly, in the manifesto, but if not we can easily deduce that the reason is because technology has removed challenges that develop stoic acceptance (there are very few significant challenges in a modern man's life, so when a challenge appears, he is not equipped to accept it)

[@boiledelephant]

I think in the manifesto the idea is that premodern problems were impersonal and outside of anyone's control - there will always be floods, storms, bears, famines. Nobody experiences the weather as an injustice. Whereas modern problems are usually controlled by someone, somewhere, just not you (e.g. the CEO of a hydroelectric company, or a nuclear energy consortium's board of directors). So these huge problems and existential threats are being orchestrated by people that you can't access or persuade, creating a sense of perpetual victimization.

[@FRISHR]

We truly live in an Industrial Society.

[@thegrandcanyon9861]

At 14:25 you forget that Kaczynski mentioned this. He mentions near the end of the manifesto that he believes that the development of industry was a fluke, specific to Western Europe that would not occur anywhere else in any other circumstances. Edit: at 14:45, you forget that Kaczynski believes that there is not enough land for everyone to live like him, and there will be even less land in the future as technology marches onwards and requires more resources.

[@jamesstaggs4160]

His "manifesto" actually makes a number of good points. The dude was very insightful and it seems like he's actually predicted alot of things that came true well after he wrote it. He was at one time a reasonable thinker that threw reason and logic away to take a bunch of innocent lives.

[@thecockjuicer]

He was right

[@dr.killakill960]

His manifesto is a must read! Even though his book is convincing it would never work But makes you smarter!

[@lemox67]

This popped up in my recommendations on this day, June 11, 2023 the day after his passing

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

Kaczynski's books, composed during his imprisonment, present a compelling case for reevaluating our relationship with technology. #RipTed

[@daikucoffee5316]

We need to talk about the environmental impact that Israel’s bombs have.

[@daikucoffee5316]

@MKULTRA You mean like Saudi Arabia?

[@AnprimGang]

@MKULTRA I would be fine with that because i despise jews

[@ausore9832]

@MKULTRA what's your point...?

[@georgemcintyre7467]

Why only Israel?

[@daveschillz]

His views on Over socialization is just teds inability to integrate into society himself, he was a loner that could not understand the human ability to work together because he never felt a human connection.

[@HartesBrotWa]

cringe

[@undefinedhuman7404]

gee it’s almost like he despises modern society or something hmm I dunno man :/

[@aidansmith3821]

We needed this nuanced of a take on this guy, thanks.

[@chair547]

I'm not saying he's right I'm just saying that there are currently TV screens on the gas pumps that play ads

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

I was captivated by Kaczynski's intellectual prowess showcased in Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution. From his prison cell, he exposes the perils of our tech-dependent world with remarkable clarity. If you're interested in thought-provoking literature, don't miss out on these exceptional books! #RipTed

[@masterbeanboi9423]

you should do a video about bookchin's social ecology

[@manuathreya3354]

Yes, this definitely

[@ardea1021]

I agree

[@PeterTeamExtreme]

I feel like writing off his work as not being worthy of philosophical discourse isn’t necessary. He has some great points, one needs to simply recognize his shortcomings, those being his violent tendencies.

[@MrCmon113]

His terrorism is nothing compared to his ideology.

[@degeneratedeuterium5164]

No his violence is based. His philosophy is trash

[@seraphini1248]

His philosophy was so circular with backwards logic, his conclusion to avoiding society, was society is inevitable, so his extra conclusion was, maybe if I kill people my philosophy will seem less dumb and it'll spread... Thru technology... Complete contradiction, and was a trust fund baby for his parents. Those who can't do, teach, and those who can't teach... Should teach gym class. We have a word for being smart but not being able to teach, it means you're even dumber.

[@wilsonmendonca6038]

I agree with you

[@jakjak4271]

@@degeneratedeuterium5164 chronically online

[@ryanmagill2980]

REST IN PEACE TED

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

Ted Kaczynski's books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, challenged my perspective on the role of technology in our lives. His arguments against its unchecked growth and the potential loss of our individual freedom were both persuasive and deeply thought-provoking. A remarkable and thought-provoking read! #RipTed!

[@dailymotivtion]

Parents: Go outside Kid: Don't tell me what to do Ted: Go outside Kid: yes father

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution

[@maxcovfefe]

Being a member of society requires a certain amount of conformity. Individualism is great, but one must also know how to participate with other people, or we run the risk of committing horrific antisocial behaviors like the things Ted did. He went to an opposite extreme of what he was fighting against, and it made him a monster.

[@johndole9810]

The Kremlin fried his brain, but it was claimed that the Cia done did it.

[@quanleanh6548]

damn Imma steal this ty stranger

[@DarkPhantomSky]

Well, he wasn't a monster though.

[@joenuts6722]

you mean being based?

[@lilyliao9521]

found a conformist lib

[@bruhzoo8364]

Fun fact: the unabomber is an alumni at the hs I currently attend. They took down all his photos off the walls and the teachers refuse to acknowledge it. Plus his cousin changed his name and is now one of my teachers.

[@__-yu1no]

XD

[@hawks9142]

Wow. This was a wild ride. No clue he was a professor and he's STILL alive today. Crazy

[@overestimatedforesight]

Well

[@hawks9142]

​@@overestimatedforesightwell

[@Grizzleburrr]

Didn't want to bring anime into this but it's a famous show that Ted reminds me of. The unabomber was a real life albeit far tamer version of eren yeager. As 60% of viewers sided with eren even after he killed 80% of the worlds population to stop the world from trying to kill his country, friends and family

[@Hwywbwjw]

Why is it not “worthy philosophical discourse” to discuss his personal anger towards the system?

[@akselevensen2763]

I would argue that his philosophy was, to an extent, made as an outlet for his violent tendencies. That is not to say that there is no value in his words, but knowing that they came from a man who was not wholly sane is important.

[@akselevensen2763]

@@Gary_oldmans_left_nut I can cite at least two separate instances where Ted expressed violent thoughts that did not have to do with his philosophy. One is in the video at 4:24. The other can be found in the documentary "Unabomber: in his own words" where he reportedly almost shot one of his neighbors.

[@akselevensen2763]

@@Gary_oldmans_left_nut Agreed, but most people in said minority haven't murdered 3 people and hurt 23 by mailing out bombs.

[@ludovicodemolina]

@@akselevensen2763 Were he a military man I posit you would find him worthy of medals of honor and the admiration of the people. For "defending us from the enemy"

[@privatejoker6940]

Today the Unabomber died, and I just got recommanded this vid

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

I was captivated by Kaczynski's intellectual prowess showcased in Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution. From his prison cell, he exposes the perils of our tech-dependent world with remarkable clarity. If you're interested in thought-provoking literature, don't miss out on these exceptional books! #RipTed !😢

[@logon-oe6un]

13:10 He actually goes on a whole spiel about how optional beneficial technology very soon stops being optional, using the example of how cars ruined city planning. Water systems were also mentioned as an example of people lacking control of their safety. Bruh moment.

[@Vaporded]

Clicking on this video probably has me on some sort of list but my curiosity couldn’t stop me

[@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob]

Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution !. 0:02