THE MOST SAVAGE PHILOSOPHER OF ALL TIME

[@aceospades45]

Basically Louis C.K.

[@matijapavlovic9956]

When did he piss on people in public?

[@averat84]

You want Jason Biggs. He pissed on Chelsea Handler from an elevated position as she was treading water. She appears to enjoy the surprise Golden Shower he let go all over her head. It’s on KZbin.

[@nickd.9955]

Funny, but a little too far.

[@vesuvyan]

R Kelly more like

[@jmarch_503]

Panda-monium lmao

[@shivamkimothi2441]

"He threw away his bowl, his only possession, realising how materialistic he had become". Holy crap.

[@JackTalyorD]

But he still had hands

[@adityanawani8134]

@@JackTalyorD Nope. Hands are part of a human bodies while begging bowls are not.

[@JackTalyorD]

@@adityanawani8134 what U say there not detachable

[@adityanawani8134]

@@JackTalyorD Of course.

[@shadowling77777]

Lmfao

[@nathanapplegate5374]

Diogenes saw an archer hopelessly trying to hit a target, he sat next to the said target and said it’s the safest place to be.

[@pineapplaplatypotato]

😂

[@k03dz0n3]

hahaha

[@DarkAngelEU]

Diogenes must be a fire bender, cos he's out to BURN!!!

[@swampdonkey1567]

I mean if he was missing the I think next to it would be more dan

[@kangmyungjae]

Swamp Donkey that‘s what i was also thinking wtf next to it doesnt make sense. Standing in front of it makes him more gangsta

[@mails65]

The phrase "Get out of my sunlight" is worded in Greek in such a way that it also means "enlighten me". Which makes more sense to me as being said as an irony to Alexander the Great, making him understand that his needs were spiritual and not materialistic, making even a great king powerless.

[@cyborgboomer1701]

Diogenes is big brain time incarnate in the flesh.

[@joshuaminton7583]

make it more understandable why he wasn't killed

[@benwil6048]

Interesting

[@towrofterra]

@Mr. H Neither one of these people was in the HRE...

[@ParisNinpo]

@@joshuaminton7583 He would never been killed, he was a known wise man since his father Philip. When brought in front of him after Corinth fell, Phillip asked him why was he there, he answered to him "to observe your greed", then Philip released him impressed by his honesty. See the ancients were strange people and actually gave value to wisdom.

[@mattbedforth9569]

"..some believe he just held his breath and died." Savage.

[@bigfenix8272]

Rando: "When do you think you will die?" Diogenes: "Whenever I feel like it."

[@haniabdi1989]

@@kuwandak yea I know u just pass out and start involuntarily breathing again

[@monti0120]

In the absence of evidence we can choose what we want to believe

[@thinginground5179]

The dog bite infection sounds the most suitable lol. Once a dog, dies a dog.

[@kurdtcobain2896]

Damn.

[@Dylanquinn666]

Sometimes you just gotta take a long hard look at your wooden bowl and think about what a monster you've become.

[@solme6667]

Lmaoz xDDD

[@grandmaster-grouch]

Dylan Quinn for the purpose of becoming a bigger monster? or summon the courage to destroy the vile within you?

[@solme6667]

@@grandmaster-grouch Both...3:)

[@grandmaster-grouch]

SOLME 666 that was indeed the meaning of my questionable reasoning. I see ive met myself; now that i see this i honor you sir. #morepower to you; simply because it beckons power upon me. 🕺❤️

[@solme6667]

@@grandmaster-grouch Thank you, props to you too ^^

[@joshuahaynes1026]

He didn't die from holding his breathe, he just realized what a materialist he'd been when he saw a young lad breathing.

[@oreoicecream1829]

Hahaha ha

[@8koi139]

more like a young corpse not breathing

[@dahat1992]

Holy crap, the reason this is funny is mind boggling. Crap. I just realized that means you're smarter than me. ☹️

[@mothernature1755]

This mans roasts were so savaged their still being recounted thousands of years later

[@Andrewza1]

@@thearkheartguy mm a smart one we have

[@danielphil4976]

They're* ffs

[@phoqueewe7230]

@@thearkheartguy chick mentality. If God himself were to write down the secrets of the universe Daz would comment on the grammer...

[@gertrudemcstein6288]

@@phoqueewe7230 grammar*

[@phoqueewe7230]

@@gertrudemcstein6288 and there you go ladies and gentleman... someone joining the Daz fan club for (grammer) grammar! Look up irony and get back with me. Points for paying attention with a big fail for not pointing it out with humor and sarcasm! look those words up as well...

[@neekbot]

Diogones: “I was searching for the bones of your father but could not distinguish them from the bones of slaves” Alexander: 👁👄👁

[@guillermofernandez7954]

LOL

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

That shows what a great man the daddy was, being a normal human.

[@johnathons1789]

Chad Diogenes vs virgin plato

[@dr.j.latourhighpriestdod5192]

Virgin plato? Hardly a Greek trait. Especially coming from the Author of "Discussion on Eros" found in Plato's "Symposium". Obviously you're unaware of festivals to Dionysus , and the rituals held at Eleusis. Plato was obviously a sex mystic as were many in Greek culture (hence the polytheism, like the Gnostics after them) . Once you have tasted the Rapture of divine love making, regular people are not enough . So, it does appear to the outside observer, that these people are Virgins, but , that is not even the case, not even close. However, if the essence of this mysticism were made public, then you would revile them as devil's. Plato wrote about that one in "The Republic" , "The Cave" .

[@youngspinach]

@@dr.j.latourhighpriestdod5192 "Wooooooosh"

[@dr.j.latourhighpriestdod5192]

From a divine perspective, lol, it was really very nice of Diogenes to entertain everyone lol lol lol

[@dr.j.latourhighpriestdod5192]

@Dave Byrne lol lol :) :0

[@ras7646]

Plato was a Chad, he was a gymnast and competed in wrestling games

[@HoundofOdin]

That special kind of insanity that actually makes sense.

Its only insanity to self inflated retards who can only follow without thinking and can't or would ever understand or appreciate genius..

[@mikerutecky7531]

IS IT INSANITY ? OR IS WHAT THE GEN POPULATION CONSIDERS NORMAL THE TRUE MEASURE OF INSANITY .... MICHAEL RUTECKY THE CNIC

[@DarkAngelEU]

Do you speak latte?

[@gremlinfifty2308]

Says the guy who fired chainsaws out of a specialized machine gun

[@sleeexs]

Is it really insanitt

[@TheRealCabe]

“Your boos mean nothing, I’ve seen what makes you cheer”

[@kingalonsoiv]

-Rick Sanchez 50AD lol

[@nariahlarson6743]

Burning in he'll while riding the gravy train straight to prison lmfao

[@ripme6616]

Precisely

[@coolerthanafreezer13]

Did Diogenes also say this, or is this of your own brilliance ?

[@felixfischer6168]

@@coolerthanafreezer13 it's a quote from a tv show

[@luckyleo88]

He has gone through the highest form of individuation in my opinion. Absolutely authentic to the bone.

[@sonnylummes3052]

Imagine just being like " bruh im bored" *holds breath, sits there and dies

[@lrn5152]

Sonny Lummes this is the funniest thing I've read in a while! Thanks dude. 😂😂😂😂

[@michaelregis1015]

Sonny Lummes you made my day.

[@puppetsoftherealm4742]

Hilarious!!!

[@draco5991rep]

This is biologically impossible, you can't just hold your breath till you die. Before this happens you start gasping for air out of reflex.

[@chayew4660]

draco5991rep really ? Imma try, talk to you later

[@IladRodavlas]

What a badass, He literally owned nothing and was the closest to the human equivalent of dirt, yet he rejected favors from Alexander the great, only to insult his father. He completely roasted Plato and mocked everyone freaking out when their village was being invaded. He was a smart philosopher, maybe even one of the smartest, yet he lived inside of an empty wine jar and enjoyed every second of his unpleasant lifestyle. What a dude.

[@AAAAA_BRAD]

That is the dream life.

[@ThinkingAboutChannel]

I believe that the extreme message of his Life was "happiness comes from within, no matter the circumstances"

[@carters1209]

@@smokingcrab2290 I'd imagine he'd think the same about you

[@carters1209]

@@Flairis I don't think he'd care either about what he said, but I'd imagine he'd see him as an idiot as well.

[@Raumplestomp]

@@smokingcrab2290 - the village idiot is smarter than you chad

[@-na-nomad6247]

"I'm searching for the bones of your father but I can't distinguish them from those of slaves." That's gotta hurt XD

[@sorcierenoire8651]

When you want to tell him All Men are Equals but also want to trigger him.

[@nathanapplegate5374]

At the end of the day, a human is a human. A ruler is no different physically from a peasant. They are seen/perceived differently due to the position of authority the ruler has, but at the end of the day, the ruler isn’t a superhuman. He’s just another person, just like the common peasant.

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

Nathan Applegate Not true.

[@rodrigoc.goncalves2009]

@@thereisnosanctuary6184 ?

[@carters1209]

This dudes humor was centuries ahead of time.

[@JoseRodriguez-jn2ur]

Everyone knows that if the words "savage" and "philosopher" are in the same sentence, you know who it is

[@DZ-DizzyDumm]

Him a Freud, a fellow insane philosopher

[@meddlesome-]

@@DZ-DizzyDumm Freud wasn't a philosopher, or at least is not remembered as one. He was a psychologist. A shitty psychologist, but he had some decent ideas every twenty years that were revolutionary for the time.

[@JayInDecent]

Materialist and their bowls am i right

[@jonesjao5441]

"materialists" learn grammar

[@ssach7]

Jones Jão fuck off

[@elgatoalf]

Matrialsts and thier grammr

[@vinesauceobscurities]

matrirysr nd teir spelign

[@sansirow4595]

TwinkerFrisky lmao iu wriet lik anm itiot

[@노소영-h9j]

I love it how he intentionally does or say things that sound or look crazy at first, then waits for someone to ask him the meaning of his actions, and when asked he explains the first seemingly crazy thing and suddenly it makes sense. I think this is a very efficient way to make other people understand your view point. If you just go strait to the point and just say your philosophy, its easily forgettable and unrelatable and your not easily convienced , these things make you think" i dont want to understand your view of the world, i already have my own". But if you intrigue them, make them wonder "what the hell is that guy thinking?? I gotta know!" , it sends a strong message.

[@heyyooo7776]

Im a little late but a very well analyzed comment

[@MarkusDarkess]

When I was bored at school.. I sat on the floor... when people asked. I was bored and wanted to feel the cool floor. I would then spin all the way to lunch :mind you I was in 10th grade and I normal classes: and on the way back from lunch. No one ever asked why. But the reason is simply learning to walk at the pace of the group while my perception of reality is constantly changing visually and internally.

[@FrathouseMouse]

@@MarkusDarkess wtf did you just say bro

[@MarkusDarkess]

@@FrathouseMouse when bored. I would sit on the floor... Even in highschool. And I would spin to lunch... And back from lunch. Because seeing things turn in circles and keep up with the class mates was fun. Hell... One class of mine boys and girls were separated.. I sat on the girls side. Teacher didn't say anything... Until the boys got fed up two weeks later and asked "why does he get to sit with the girls" .... Teacher "he doesn't talk until tests are over" being kind and respectful doesn't mean being normal and bland

[@DarkAngelEU]

I had a similar experience with Sartre. Sartre likes to write alot, like, I mean, his book on Being and Nothingness is THICK. Even his small essay on emotions is long as fuck. And he does all of this just to mess you up! He contradicts himself over and over and over, rarely does he get anywhere, passages that use extremely difficult words in a sequence that leaves you reading the page over and over until you get a faint idea of what he's talking about. It confused the shit out of me and sometimes, I just stopped caring because the things I was thinking and dreaming of while reading his texts were much more intriguing. I gave up, I just wanted my existence and my emotions to mean whatever I wanted them to mean and BAM that's how Sartre got his point across. I still read his books just to get an idea what I value in life because of this drifting quality he has.

[@FirstLast-gm9nu]

apparently this exchange also happened: Plato was discoursing on his theory of ideas and, pointing to the cups on the table before him, said while there are many cups in the world, there is only one 'idea' of a cup, and this cupness precedes the existence of all particular cups. "I can see the cup on the table," interrupted Diogenes, "but I can't see the 'cupness'". "That's because you have the eyes to see the cup," said Plato, "but", tapping his head with his forefinger, "you don't have the intellect with which to comprehend 'cupness'." Diogenes walked up to the table, examined a cup and, looking inside, asked, "Is it empty?" Plato nodded. "Where is the 'emptiness' which precedes this empty cup?" asked Diogenes. Plato allowed himself a few moments to collect his thoughts, but Diogenes reached over and, tapping Plato's head with his finger, said "I think you will find here is the 'emptiness'."

[@JonahPleatherbooth]

Every single argument about metaphysics right there

[@robertvava7528]

I can not believe that this is happening, but, can anyone explain to me? For some reason I can not comprehend the meaning of Diogene's counterargument. I realize it is easy to understand but I just don't see it.

[@jangbae5094]

@@robertvava7528 Diogenes is saying that the whole idea of ideals was stupid like Plato.

[@robertvava7528]

Jang Bae Thank you, Jang! Meanwhile, I realised I was looking for a deeper meaning where there was none. :D

[@Kieranat96]

Diogenes just wanted to face fuck him

[@animagi6844]

plato: describes man diogenes: here's a chicken

[@jesiecordero8418]

More like Plato failing to describe man lmao

[@Cyborg_Lenin]

@@jesiecordero8418 I mean he did describe a man. We have no feathers and two legs.

[@youneskasdi]

​@@Cyborg_Lenin A horrible description without any higher meaning

[@violetthe9946]

​@@Cyborg_Lenin a featherless chicken also does

[@Cyborg_Lenin]

@@violetthe9946 indeed

[@CultofThings]

I love how homelessness was so impressive to them back then.

[@erick9348]

Well you were allowed to build your own house at the edge or out of town if you wanted to. Where i live you get sued if you build a house somewhere without paying for the land first.

[@ThisIsSolution]

@@erick9348 can't build without permits/codes or taxes paid... plus tons of money. Can't cut down trees either...

[@salj.5459]

ThisIsSolution It's so bullshit

[@HarshRajAlwaysfree]

@@ThisIsSolution hmm feels like modern era is more slavery than ancient one

[@ThisIsSolution]

@@HarshRajAlwaysfree it is in many aspects, its all built around fear

[@howdy.8979]

this dude was basically a living meme

[@cortisol_induced_coma]

he was a living legend

[@vincentvangone3312]

He was both.

[@mirinah4719]

@@cortisol_induced_coma yes he is

[@FourOf92000]

6:30 some context: Alexander's dad was a guy named Philip II who was almost as big a deal as Alexander himself-he forcibly unified Greece and set up the army Alexander would eventually use to tear his way across the Persian Empire and end up in India. This of course after his death, which is itself a really friggin' weird assassination intrigue plot. So this is a _really_ sick burn.

[@mirinah4719]

How am I finding you again? 😱😱😱

[@FourOf92000]

@@mirinah4719 my beautiful face

[@AN-ke2uz]

He also climbed a mountain with a hammer while sitting in an iron pot.

[@cameronbowes7813]

I bet that's a diss. Making your equipment too simple just makes living more difficult.

[@youtuberabbithole6969]

@@cameronbowes7813 it's a joke referencing the game Getting Over It.

[@cameronbowes7813]

@@youtuberabbithole6969 Oh lol. I'd seen that game but figured it was a true story anyway.

[@hamsterGoneCrazy]

As he was halfway there, he saw a boy climb it with his bare hands and realized, how materialistic he had become. So he threw the hammer away.

[@tbbbtoolsbooksbladebones556]

He urinated in the pot and cooked and gave it to plato and he drank it

[@z3yjIn]

So was he the first Mad lad?

Mad? Naw..mildly annoyed maybe..

[@user-fo8jc5nn4q]

Count dankula would be proud 😂😂😂

[@earlyray8495]

Count dankula would smash this

[@matthewmontano9695]

Maybe

[@aslandiesyt]

I thought about Dankula watching this. I show my friends his videos all the time. One of my favz

[@rasmus809]

Finally someone did a proper video on my man Diogenes

[@drewberman3969]

Tha H8nta 420 D00Mster Sam o Nella

[@sharkisha-lekondra-mebarbo914]

Sup ni€€a day one sam sad that he's just uploading slower like he's hardening but hard things will shatter

[@eriko807]

Sam is the only reason I'm here

[@LaTortuePGM]

sam

[@deltasword1994]

Boy who cupped his hands: I'm about to end that bowls career.

[@ezzocorbi]

He probably even knew what dank memes are

[@johngoodman5976]

Ezzocorbi he created them

[@alexcantlow2920]

Gen z thing but there is one thing you guys didn't do the magic s

[@alexcantlow2920]

Its the millennials one we don't know were it came from know my like you summon evil entities or some shit lol

[@janosk8392]

Diogenes TheDog Woof!

[@pauljeanlll7436]

Man he created them

[@UnlimitedLives1960]

"I was looking for the bones of your father but I could not distinguish them from the bones of slaves" _mic drop_

[@timothymiddleton6651]

He was just talking shit. The statement is pretty vapid, considering Philip II has a tomb and could be easily distinguished. He was an edge lord.

[@frankiew9575]

Everyone’s the same we’re all humans

[@timothymiddleton6651]

Frankie W The same meaning can be found in "Everyone is the same we are all atoms".

[@DavidKendallGoogle]

Everyone is the same, we're all 6'8" super-athletes.

[@influencerrrrrr]

Timothy Middleton then how about: *all matter (made of protons, neutrons, and electrons) are essentially the same*? Whether living or inanimate.

[@zoartontheprotector9198]

If i were not Diogenes I would also want to be Diogenes

[@scottdrangsholt7575]

ZoartonTheProtector who doesn’t want to be Diogenes

[@BrockLanders]

Diogenes = true freedom Alexander the Great = slave to EGO Diogenes > Alexander the Great

[@Concatenate]

Slave to ego is right. There's another great story of Alexander nearing India and one of his soldiers was clearing a path and encountered someone who refused to move. The soldier started arguing with the guy to leave and eventually tells him, "Alexander has conquered the world, what have you done?" The guy responds, "I have conquered the need to conquer the world."

[@guest0046]

Lmao, when I read the title of this. I was sure it was Diagonis

[@akito7025]

A B ooof

[@laurajaym925]

“I’m just being as useful as the citizens”. Fantastic!

[@EatAtJoes]

As I clicked this video I said to myself "If it's anyone other than Diogenes, this guy doesn't know." This guy knows.

[@ThatOneGuyWhoTalks2Much]

I second this

[@wexpyke]

"I'm not gonna be buried in a grave, when I'm dead just throw me in the tray-ash"

[@vincereterram8150]

Frank=Diogenes

[@thatsnodildo1974]

Olivia Donohue the true *trash man*

[@nicklausbooks1593]

Olivia Donohue FRANK!!!

[@dfmathews111]

Haha no way all those "likes" got that reference!!

[@nicknack9398]

Please enlighten us.

[@jonnyhatter35]

i heard a couple of those anecdotes a little differently. Alexander said to Diogenes while the latter sun bathed: if you would ask anything of me, I would grant it." Diogenes replied, "Ok, I would ask you to move, for you are blocking my sunlight." When taken as a slave, it was the slavers that asked him what his trade was, in order to properly market him in the slave markets. Diogenes told them, "The only job I'm good at is bossing people around, so you should sell me to someone who needs a master." lmaoo, pure savagery!

[@Concatenate]

It is, I love these responses. Must've caused a lot of people to gasp at that time, especially his telling Alexander to basically take a hike.

[@anonymousshawn9996]

And by master, he means manager of Mcdonalds.

[@bulletsfordinner8307]

Omg 😂😂😂😂👌

[@erezsolomon3838]

I don't know if "OK" existed at that time

[@minislonkers8189]

I did my philosophy presentation on Diogenes after watching this video. I forgot to bring all of my work to the examination so I winged it and told the examiners the storys in this video and they said it was the most unforgettable presentation they’ve ever seen 😂😂

[@dhammaboy1203]

I hope you peed on the ground during your presentation! :D

[@freshmilk7122]

Be like Diogenes, you don't need anything but yourself.

[@primachpepe8597]

"in a rich mans home the only place to spit is in his face"

[@KaraokeNig]

wtf lol

[@SuperPeka89]

amazing

[@heyimagorillalol9596]

@ 'your mam gæ'. Aight where's the truth? :-P

[@thepopeshat8029]

@@heyimagorillalol9596 the truth in that joke is that yo mumma is a gæy

[@shroomer3867]

@@heyimagorillalol9596 That it isn't a joke

[@Dontstalkme378]

"I was searching the bones of your father but could not distinguish then from the bones of slaves." The most EPIC BURN in history!

[@svampebob007]

The Paper Wheel pretty sure that this was the burn that was implied... now I just wonder what you thought it could imply?

[@stanislaviliev6305]

The Paper Wheel but not the ones that only have bones

[@RubSomefastOnIt]

the savageness level lies in the reaction of Alexander. If he was offended by the comment then it was high in savagery, If he contemplated its meaning and took it to heart it is less so. But If he was extremely offended initially, maybe for the entire day, until he laid down to sleep that night and he then finally realized and contemplated what was meant by the comment , that is the most savage.

[@3mi3mi]

+Parinita Badre I don't think it was intended to be a burn. He was simply demonstrating his philosophy of simplicity. Despite any material possessions we may have, titles we bear, power we inherit, our fate is the same; everyone, whether slave or king, is going to end up being a pile of bones somewhere.

[@Dakarai_Knight]

Parinita Badre he meant we are all the same. Society made u king not ur biology u r not better then them.

[@STBill]

Diogenes was a cool dude.

[@DrinkinMars]

This is more about conciousness than a philosophy. He acted on his conciousness, something that takes courage in a reformed society that is focused on the economy and the materialistic. The simple act of being a human, an animal just like the rest of the world, can bring great peace. Take away the labels and language man gave to every single thing and you will see even more than before. Humanity tries to simplify things when it's the complexity that's truly amazing. If you seriously have peace, with nothing bothering you, knowledge flourishes.

[@farrider3339]

Consciousness is 🔗 linked to knowledge - inevitably. Philosophy absent consciousness/knowledge doesn't exist. Rejecting everything man is taking for granted is THE way of living a free life. There can't be anY greater freedom than the freedom from the values society has superimposed on every single one of us .•°

[@alexandersmidt5289]

Sounds very Buddhist to me.

[@jowoo7237]

I generally consider myself an Optimist and pretty agreeable, but I find a sweet pleasure in listening to and observing the cynic. The man who gives zero fucks and says what he believes always entertains me. Every Muse needs an anti Muse. For when the spiritualist becomes too egocentric and so-called pure, the cynic reminds him that he is merely flesh and Bone.

[@dfrost3417]

Jo Woo that's my fucking father, The cynic.

[@gandalfthegrey2171]

Every person is both flesh and spirit. Both form who we are and the world around us, we can't ignore one or the other.

[@patana256]

Beautiful

[@thomabow8949]

@@gandalfthegrey2171 The fuck was that a Meditations quote?

[@jpgrumbach8562]

What he told need not to be his persuasion. Were most people then more 'cynic' he may have spoken differently. It is often a question of counterbalance, of effective provocation to show that there also might be s.th. else beside the beloved common sense.

[@leffapal3082]

Thank you Sisyphus 55, it is quite a video to watch.If I may add something is the Alexander and Diogenes full anecdote story: Alexander the Great had a tutor, Leonidas, who was privy to the cynical philosophy. Knower of cynical philosophy Alexander knew Diogenes the Dog, for his teachings, his style and his spirit. When Alexander was in Corinth wanted to meet Diogenes and sent an aide to find Diogenes who was in Kratheio, and to present him upon him. After the lieutenant found him, he said: "The King Alexander asks to see you." Diogenes replied "I do not want to see him. If he wants, let him come to see me. " And indeed, the king Alexander went to see Diogenes. THE MEETING When the Alexander approached him he said "I am the King Alexander". Diogenes replied calmly "and I am Diogenes the Cyon"(Cyon as it means in Greek the Dog). Alexander the Great wondered and said "Are you not afraid of me?" Diogenes replied "And what are you? Good or evil?". Alexander remained skeptical. As a king he could not have said that he is evil, and if he claimed that he is good, why someone should be afraid of him? Alexander instead of answering asked again "What favor would you like to ask of me?" And Diogenes again pun-answered "Aposkotison me." Meaning: "Take me from the dark oblivion, and show me the truth." With this clever pun of Diogenes the answer can be indicated up to "Stop hiding me from the sun", as cynics thought that human happiness is found in austerity, and in zestasia(=the warmth) of the sun and thus he does not ask anything of material riches. Upon hearing this, Alexander said the famous: "If I was not Alexander, I would like to be Diogenes." Alexander the Great and Diogenes had a long discussion with great importance that was saved by the Plousaraio Dion. In this, Diogenes explains to Alexander when a King is beneficial (to the people). Diogenes attributed the usefulness of a king in "If he is beneficial to the people." To give strength to this claim he said. "If you conquest throughout the Europe and not ofeleseis(=be useful to) the people, then you are not beneficial. If you conquest throughout the Africa and the Asia and not ofeleseis the people, again you're not useful. Even if you pass the columns of Hercules(he refers to the Gibraltar) and cross over the ocean and conquer this continent that is larger than Asia* and not ofeleseis the people, again you are not useful because they do not benefit at all. " * p.s. (does he means America?Maybe!) Again many thanks and keep discovering the world and its history!

[@hfyaer]

hysan woo I think he's the guy who actually writes the books

[@unglemergy]

Leffa PaL your translations are remarkable

[@JRG333]

Leffa PaL thanks it makes so much more sense now

[@OscarCortesV]

The last part sounds like coming from a Buddhist monk ... Diogenes the myth still alive

[@maxben3391]

Buddhism and Greek thought came together after Alexander went on his conquering spree, so there are in fact some similarities

[@austinedeclan10]

Diogenes while holding a featherless chicken: Behold Plato's man.

[@vinevienevo]

😂

[@DavidKendallGoogle]

I read your reply, then I saw the reply in the video. I then realized that you wrote what I saw in the video. Did you do this before seeing the video? That would be awesome. If after, why did you write what you saw in the video?

[@kimberleyduffin8063]

I was thinking the exact same thing...humans!

[@Oyi_14]

Humans, REFUTED

[@grandmaster-grouch]

Øyi humans cannot be. The act is a impossibility.

[@travisjohnson6703]

Diogenes: "Return to nature, divest yourself of the trappings of civilization." Also Diogenes: *lives in city*

[@p1ntu_]

He lives in a barrel dude

[@mynameisinsertnamehere3059]

In a city

[@mynameisinsertnamehere3059]

But its hard to troll people without people

[@eztvlight1202]

Truth

[@fromaggio7654]

Cause he was just a original prankster

[@TheRealRusDaddy]

Local homeless man dabs on everyone he meets

[@maisetas]

homeless man spits some truth

[@friedrichgerster1583]

Im glad that im not homeless xD

[@quagernag]

@@friedrichgerster1583 Where I lay my head is home.

[@gothaxngel5383]

this should have been the og title of the video 😭

[@sherrysyed]

Hahahah

[@dalirkosimov2576]

*literally has one item in his possession* "Oh shit I'm materialistic-YEET"

[@jaycub722]

Dude was a rank 1 troll.

[@gnarlytreeman]

Trolling 1000s of years before the internet!

[@gnarlytreeman]

The ancestor troll.

[@noahanderlick5707]

Says the people trying to troll a dead guy.

[@13Kr4zYAzN13]

The Elder Troll

[@ScuttleBugReal]

13Kr4zYAzN13 Skyrim : The Elder Trolls

[@aduck5639]

The phrase "held his breath" is the same idiom as in english, meaning to not speak. This means, he may not have had any more profound words for others after whatever was deemed his latest philosophic escapade. Basically, he may have faded from popularity or stopped talking to people altogether. It can also mean to not speak out of fear, but this seems less likely for him.

[@ayy2193]

"if only it was so easy to end my hunger by rubbing my belly". top kek.

[@Payne3991]

Diogenes, the Ancient Greek equivalent of the Dude

[@jsvp19561]

Payne3991 To a T!

[@stevenglansburg856]

At least Diogenes was civil.

[@user-yq9vf2gx2s]

Payne3991 diogenes is my chad

[@noeditbookreviews]

Oh yeah? Well that's just like uuhhh your opinion... man.

[@EugeneSimakin]

This barrel is really tied this room together.

[@ComposingGloves]

A religious figure when asked, "My Husband died. He was a good man. A loved man. But my brother has survived all these years. He is an awful man, no one wants him around. Why did God take my husband but not my brother?" "Well sister, it seems God did not want that brother of your's around any more than you do." - _-

[@raymundoserna3449]

and it was said that burn was so bad that no amount of water cool it

[@laks786]

What's the joke?

[@WorgenGrrl]

The Difference between a Cynic and a Stoic is a tunic. -- Ancient Greek saying. Cynics give up everything when it comes to possessions, Stoics however live with the most basic of possessions.

[@alexandersmidt5289]

According to Epictetus, the perfect Stoic was a Cynic.

[@farhanaditya2647]

@@alexandersmidt5289 where did he say that?

[@bluekjar]

"Shitbag Plato" Subscribed.

[@coweatsman]

Plato brings a shaved dog and declares "Here is Diogenes".

[@kingheath97]

coweatsman problem, dogs aren't bipedal

[@jesushimself00]

nor was Diogones hairless

[@michaelmorrison1199]

same

[@jarradtj214]

Simple things please smile minds

[@MrKmas508]

Patron saint of 4Chan

[@unhearted4510]

EYUP

[@MFZBitch]

well he*d definetly not be a fan of all that alt right BS

[@jaygnome6883]

MFZBitch but the people of 4chan pretty much hate everybody and tell everybody to fuck off

[@Milkbutter]

Nah, 4chan are suburban losers and nihilists who worship their depression to a narcissistic fault. Diogenes lived with dogs. Diogenes > 4chan.

[@brucewaite3733]

Nah, Diogenes for all his quarks had something substantial to teach. That could elevate the soul of man. The only thing he has in common with 4chan is being surrounded by shit. Whereby Diogenes was poor and penniless, 4chan users are just internet trolls.

[@Dza2K12]

"I was searching for the bones of your father, but I could not distinguish them from the bones of slaves." I'm a fan now.

[@philgamer_309]

it blows my mind that a man living inside a wine jar affects our lives to this day

[@MURF8393]

"When I'm dead just throw me in the trash." -Frank Reynolds "Just throw me over the wall with a stick to fight off the horde." -Diogenes.

[@yey7-]

I swear i immediately thought of frank when i heard this you beat me to it man :)

[@katcano4474]

Frank Reynolds = Diogenes confirmed?

[@myob94]

Diogenes is the worlds first troll

[@thedevilsadvocate5210]

Confucius

[@mortvald]

You should read about gilgamesh then

[@islandboy9381]

He doesn't seem like a troll to me, more like a ancient version of George Carlin

[@1jerrycamacho497]

I have been a fan of diogenes since i learned of him. I think he held a secret to philosophy that only the greats ever come to realize. His views were wild because life is wild. He saw through the 'cellphones' and 'new cars' of his day and saw that the people are taking a complicated route to the same destination, but incurring far more debt and burdens than necessary. He was the Original Street Smart, rich in common sense through the simplicity one would find in those moments when a child speaks more truth than an adult.

[@writteninthesky]

👌 Definitely he was Self Realized. A true Zen Master. Zen is Universal, present in all cultures, before time ever "existed".

[@thepowerofthemind6450]

​@The Art Of Being ye, it's really similar to Taoism (Zen is basically Taoism esported in japan)

[@wolf-xf6hf]

I saw this and said if this aint diogenes im gonna riot. You can't tell me that "behold plato's man" is like the greatest line ever

[@TomboTime]

so in a nutshell: -nothing matters -social status doesn't mean shit -materialism is pointless -reunite with nature -be honest, be spiteful, be you.

[@longlostwraith5106]

Everything beyond the first point doesn't matter...

[@robertbruce5489]

@@longlostwraith5106 lol

[@omnomnom3187]

Kind of like stoicism

[@TheHugSlug]

-Shit like no one’s watching

[@joeyc1725]

Yes

[@Rkenichi]

The most I’ve ever laughed at a philosophy video

[@movietimeateds69]

You clearly haven't seen sam O'Nella's video.

[@scorzi10]

@@movietimeateds69 link?

[@farhanaditya2647]

@@movietimeateds69 who's that?

[@Sukhmeet001]

​@@farhanaditya2647search "The philosopher who publicly-defecated" by Sam O'nella

[@snakey934Snakeybakey]

Diogenes was the George Carlin of ancient Greece.

[@noeditbookreviews]

When I saw the title for this video I was wondering if it would be Carlin

[@michaeldietz9026]

I love this comment so much

[@13Kr4zYAzN13]

Saw similar comments on George Carlin videos. I'm convinced that George Carlin was a reincarnation of Diogenes lol

[@FreeAmerica4Ever]

Reincarnated

[@wondertome2023]

More like George Carlin is the Diogenes of modern times.

[@heeropat]

The thing I love about Diogenes saying "I'm looking for the bones of your father" to Alexander is that Alexander hated his father

[@ibrahimhassaan6188]

I think this guy was reincarnated as filthy frank

[@Jesse-yo7uw]

Ibrahim Dhawood this guy is in no way like filthy frank

[@jacobislucas]

You know, it’s funny. Me and a friend are actually talking about something like this. And we actually equated Diogenes to chris Chan.

[@harkness1720]

@@jacobislucas Chris Chan is an absolute buffoon my friend. Diogonese actually had good ideas and challenged a lot of things in society.

[@carolusmartellus1309]

Franks are not blank(white)!

[@chengzhou8711]

No, more like dril on twitter

[@cheydinal5401]

"If I was Batman, I'd want to be Diogenes"

[@edvz8896]

lul true

[@JustinBarylski]

Is it bad that I actually admire this lifestyle? If I were not Justin, I would like to be Diogenes...

[@classicrockradio9039]

And if I were not Diogenes, then I would want to be Bill Gates

[@rumfordc]

you can give me all your stuff at any time. just let me know.

[@OspreyKnight]

And so you'll have a lot of shit to fill your abyss and he'll be happy.

[@dickhardon1344]

You missed what Diogenes was saying there.

[@psycheisssdelic]

Everyone is Diogenes. You just choose not to live as you are.

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

The "governed men" quote is often translated as "I was a master" since the double entendre still kind of works in English (a master of slaves, a master to an apprentice). There's also a layer you missed there- He wasn't saying he was a king in Athens, he was saying that he'd be an ideal slave to a man who needed someone to enslave him. "I'd be great for anyone looking for a master." It was a powerful shitpost.

[@transcendentalacu]

Alexander: " I am Alexander the great king". Diogenes: "and I am Diogenes the dog." Alexander: " ask of me anything you wish" Diogenes: "Stand out of the sun." Alexander: "if I were not Alexander, I would be Diogenes "

[@응응-j8j]

U forgot to add ->diogenes: "i too if i werent diogenes would be diogenes "

[@Mickey_ej]

@@smokingcrab2290 for someone of such power and wealth, the fact that he didn't do harm to Diogenes even after him savagely cancelling him out, tells you that the man was infact not a pussy, virtuous rather say.

[@ActionCow69]

@@Mickey_ej Alexander probably wasn't stupid enough to murder a local celebrity for basically no benefit. Either that, or he was just genuinely impressed and liked the guy somewhat.

[@kingbjorn1832]

@@ActionCow69 he was truly impressed. he was a student of a philosopher before so yeah really respect them.

[@bickusdiggus9495]

@@smokingcrab2290 The man was the student of Aristotle himself, I don't think Alexander would kill a philosopher, especially one as based as Diogenes

[@lepthymo]

He would be institutionalized, yeah. Talk about having an over-complicated society.

[@michaelholloway8]

Lepthymo No, man. There are actual emotionally disturbed people living on the streets of any North American city you care to mention.

[@bwackbeedows3629]

Kam No, he means homeless people; transients.

[@khgameplayer]

I met a homeless who said he could hear the transgenders calling him a rapist through the wifi. I don't know if that's what I'd call "sensitive"

[@msbjr23]

I am too stupid to grasp what this comment actually means

[@danbott81]

m b Meaning there are better options available to "fix" the issue rather than sticking him in a box. Implying it is more troublesome to institutionalize him rather than utilize the logical solution which I am not smart enough to figure that part out lol but you get the gist?

[@anna-mariyablue8580]

So much packed in a tiny video. Wish I could sit down for 2-3 hour lectures with this man, would be absolutely fascinating

[@jormungandr7567]

Found my spirit animal

[@ivanmegafanboy1981]

A dawg

[@MarkShaneHansen]

He saw a boy cupping his hands to drink water. Clearly, owning kits a wooden bowl made him too materialistic. This is great stuff :)

[@eduardoruizsoares7247]

"What do i need this shit for." -Sam' onella

[@BbNaB]

"Remember: The real cynics are the ones who tell you everything's going to be all right." George Carlin

[@docholiday8315]

Explain this please?

[@joeyc1725]

This comment is perfect. Again George and Dio. Are brothers in separate times.

[@FrathouseMouse]

RIP

[@TheInsomniaddict]

@@mrtraa2639 Yeah, no. It's because the cynics already imagined the worst of what could happen and can envision a world continuing on afterwards.

[@anybody2501]

Uhh. No. Those would be the optimists. See Candide by Voltaire. Cynics would likely propose that nothing is permanent and that life being short, it is best to spend time making due with what one has and the situation one finds oneself in rather than worry about what one doesn't have and what situations may come to be.

[@darkstarmatter1388]

One of the most informative and entertaining videos I have ever seen on KZbin. Thanks.

[@bobhempker7564]

He could live in SanFrancisco today, and blend right in.

[@imjuststardust5079]

Kinda reminded me of The Emperor of The United States.

[@miguelpereira9859]

If memes can live withought Diogenes, why no Diogenes withought memes

[@donavonbain4332]

Miguel Pereira Memes do not live. They last awhile, and occasionally linger. But in the end; they, too, are forgotten; like most people. What matters with life? Love one another.

[@IkeOkerekeNews]

Donavon Bain Memes are the basis of culture. Culture is not forgotten.

[@adonisadmirer2752]

Well that's the thing; memes can't live without diogenes.

[@MelloCello7]

Nigga, the Europeans whole sale slaughtered a multitude of cultures out of existence, what are you talkin about?!! 🤔 By the way, if your saying that memes are culture, I seriously worry about this next generation..

[@brandonn.1275]

@@MelloCello7 memes have existed as long as independent human thought has existed and govern the fundamental basis in which human interaction since they're just concepts that spread evolve as they travel from person. Interestingly enough the dancing plague of the dark ages and the emergence of Kilroy during WWII mark important points in time for human culture.

[@Fummy007]

Can I do anything for you Diogenes? Yes... get out of my light. I AM THE ONE DONT WEIGHT A TON DONT NEED A GUN TO GET RESPECT UP ON THE STREET

[@Dontstalkme378]

Damn. I laughed too hard.

[@ThePaintballgun]

Good ol' Denzel

[@haliax8149]

fuck your memes

[@lexziwithaz1769]

Alexander: You know, I'm not even mad. You really are just a legend.

[@SplitWasTaken]

livingstonmarco it's "Don't weigh a ton"

[@stardust.7507]

"I was searching for the bones of your father but I could not distinguish then from the bones of slaves" is SUCH a powerful statement so casually said. I think this one will stick with me

[@borgoat1220]

Diogenes was the OG minimalist before minimalism became the mere "trend" that it is today, and were he alive today, he would no doubt call them out on their relative materialistic excess of even having any possessions at all.

[@kingwinter2024]

So he'd laugh at you too. But then again, to counter all that, how about not giving a fuck what you'd think someone (especially a long dead man) would think about you in the first place?

[@laurahuynh8333]

I like the fact Alexander the Great himself walked up to him and asked what he wanted. All Diogenes wanted was for Alexander to move out of the way to get some sunlight. What a legend.

[@Hedgehog3342]

when diogenes told alexander to get out of his sunlight, that was when we knew diogenes was straight savge. he brushed off alexander like he was nothing. funny as hell. XD

[@TS-jm7jm]

he was right though, Alexander was just another man at the end of the day, also Alexander did ask Diogenes what he could do for him and he did get his answer.

[@a-drewg1716]

​@@TS-jm7jm well too be fair Alexander is one of the most well known man while the vast majority of humans who have lived are now forgotten to time. So while Alexander was just another man, he was a man who accomplished such great feats and made such a impact on history that he is remembered by name more than 2,000 years later.

[@TS-jm7jm]

@@a-drewg1716 yes i know, he may be remembered but like all other men he's dead and his bones appear the same as those of his enemies, what he did in life is impressive and we remember him for it.

[@stm7810]

@@a-drewg1716 he did very little, it was soldiers, slaves etc. the working class that did things.

[@ry4743]

@@TS-jm7jm he too will be forgotten overtime. Heck. Mankind will go extinct one day as the universe becomes the next black hole.

[@thegargantuatimes5192]

Imagine roasting someone so bad that people keep talking and laughing about it centuries later

[@ΒασίληςΒλάχος-τ3κ]

(Millenia later)

[@KenGLaP]

Great video. Diogenes would have been proud to be represented as a stick figure !

[@richardpartrestal8664]

KenGLaP he probably wouldn't give a shit tbh

[@ujjwalmishra8962]

Simple

[@ReallyAnnoyingThing1]

You just earned yourself a new subscriber

[@plainlogic]

Jonno Clarges why have you chosen to sub now?

[@dodogatz]

Thank you he is my favorite philospher

[@aweskome4894]

no you’re favorite homeless man

[@chrispapasot7265]

Im pleased that someone in the world actually cares to do some research and release a video about one of the most absurd philosophers. I mean here in greece nobody cares about it and as everything here is falling apart, its good to apreaciate the ''small things''. Cheers man, great channel and supportive community arround it!

[@kirito_kun5072]

A man ahead of its time.

[@nicholasr82]

First stand up comedian.

[@kingwinter2024]

More like a village idiot mixed up with a comedic act.

[@rigel7810]

Just a soul youre such a materialistic person

[@piaopiaokeke]

I was afraid you stopped making videos! I was so happy to see you are still active! Cannot wait until the next!

[@matthewdecamp2983]

Four years later this video still holds up as entertaining and educational. Good shit bro hope your still dropping videos and doing well!

[@throng5092]

I must know more about this man and learn all his shenanigans

[@NumbingDisasterAnon]

I know this was 7 months ago, but dude The guy hated Plato so much he would loudly eat food while the guy was teaching

[@TheCorrodedMan]

NumbingDisasterAnon Didn’t he also roast the fuck out of a prostitutes son when the kid started tossing rocks into a crowd at random? “Careful son, don’t hit your father”

[@alexmcclish4393]

I feel like he’s just a character made up to teach principles

[@justinlacek1481]

That would be possible, but there are at least a handful of other historical figures like this or similar, especially in asia

[@MrCorrectify]

The Greeks wrote down the winner of every play competing in the Dionysian festival, and kept the screenplays on record, a huge number of which survive still to this day. The works of Homer were created about 600 years before Diogenes was born, and that was 400 years before Jesus. The Greeks were *really* good at keeping tabs on this stuff. Also there was a monument erected in his name by his family in Corinth when he died, which stood for a few hundred years. I'd bet some of the stories are probably made up or misattributed, Mark Twain style, though.

[@birdthompson]

@@justinlacek1481 crazy wisdom mahasiddhas

[@themacocko6311]

@@justinlacek1481 Some of them are said to be made up too. Lao Tzu was said to be a wonderer, owning nothing and just a figure to give a name to the lessons.

[@mondoseguendo6113]

Like Jesus?

[@richlopezI695]

I totally enjoyed this video, and now I have a better idea about the origins of "Not giving a Fuck" 👍👍👍

[@platosocrates9350]

Imagine if Diogenes had access to the internet... That would be a sight.

[@BuddhaSunn]

His twitter would be epic

[@raygarcia2540]

5:40 "We should take Bikini Bottom and push it somewhere else."

Lmao, I thought about that too when I was watching

[@floyddean5472]

"i was searching for the bones of your father but could not distinguish them from the bones of your slaves." ...fucking legendary.

[@Volvith]

"BEHOLD, *A MAN!"* Diogenes, i love you mate. :3

[@SenthilKumar-qq5te]

Wait, Life 2000 years ago was complicated for that man ? It would be fun to have him around today.

[@professorperry4790]

I liked the piano, it really kept it all flowing. That Diogenes guy was interesting too