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The Phistomefel Miracle

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Cracking The Cryptic

Cracking The Cryptic

2 жыл бұрын

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@CrackingTheCryptic
@CrackingTheCryptic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to a couple of comments I've noticed that there is a flaw in my logic at around 50minutes into the video. I worked out the line in box 1 had to have a 9 on it and then thought this meant it had to have a 4 on it too. (I did the same thing at a different moment in the video but caught myself that time.) It's actually not easy to show this line must also have a 4 on it but here is one way you can do it: 1. Note that 9 must now be on the line in box 3 in r2 by sudoku. 2. Note that 1 cannot now be on this line in r2 as well. [This is a quite beautiful point. If you try and put 1 on the line with the 9 in r2 then it is either next to the 9 making a 10 domino or it will make the alternation along the line incorrect!!!] 3. This forces 1 in box 3 into r1. 4. Now look at r2c7. This digit can only be 4/6/9 as any form of yellow 2378 will create a 5/10 domino with r2c6! 5. But this digit also cannot be 9 because (and this is ANOTHER brilliancy from Phistomefel) the other two low digits on that Whispers line in box 3 would now be a 2/3 pair summing to 5! 6. It also cannot be a 6 because this would need a 1 next to it in r2c8 and we know the 1 is in r1 in box 3. So this digit is actually a 4. This forces a 4 onto the Whispers line in box 1 and the logic I did find can continue thereafter. Apologies everybody. Let me know if it might help if I made a short video to explain this.
@SzanyiAtti
@SzanyiAtti 2 жыл бұрын
Although I always love extra CTC videos, a pinned comment explaining the mistake works for me.
@cookiequeen5430
@cookiequeen5430 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah agreeing that a Video is not necessary. But pinning the comment would help. Thanks for the explanation and the beautiful solve today!
@bertbergers9171
@bertbergers9171 2 жыл бұрын
I watched the video and thougth to notice the error and found this pinned comment, good job! Not necessary to make a video on it in my opinion.
@modulusshift
@modulusshift 2 жыл бұрын
On 5.: I still have r3c8 as being possibly 4, which wouldn't cause the 2/3 pair summing to 5 problem. That would require a 9 next to it in r2c9 though, conflicting with the 9 we're supposing in r2c7, so it still effectively rules out the 9. I think this catches it! Thank you!
@LednacekZ
@LednacekZ 2 жыл бұрын
I think you can be proud to have created a community where so many people react when you make an illogical step.
@ZachGatesHere
@ZachGatesHere 2 жыл бұрын
I see the words "phistomefel" and "miracle" on a movie-length video and I know we're in for a ride.
@sharkdog01
@sharkdog01 2 жыл бұрын
This might be the best comment I've seen in all my years on youtube
@rhoadeshouse
@rhoadeshouse 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and i also agree to Eminent Sharky as well
@xChikyx
@xChikyx 11 ай бұрын
A movie lenght video... I ahd never thought about that and now it's making me question my life choices...
@Foxyjosh
@Foxyjosh 2 жыл бұрын
So there is now 4 degrees of difficulty in Sudoku: easy, medium, hard, and Phistomefel
@pietvanvliet1987
@pietvanvliet1987 2 жыл бұрын
Might I suggest 'ridiculous' as a fifth? Comes right after 'hard'.
@shellmichael9665
@shellmichael9665 2 жыл бұрын
I want to hear Simon say “This puzzle comes highly recommended. It has an astounding ‘P’ rating on Logic Masters Germany.”
@blahhblaah74
@blahhblaah74 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say there are more: easy, GAP (generally approachable puzzle), medium, hard, monstrously hard, ridiculous and then Phistomefel.
@jadeskyewalker
@jadeskyewalker Жыл бұрын
I’ll alledge there’s more. Level 1: Easy, Level 2: GAP, Level 3: Medium, Level 4: Hard, Level 5: Really difficult, Level 6: Monstrous, Level 7: Ridiculous, Level 8: Absolutely Ridiculous, Level 9: A level I call “what on earth is going on here”, Level 10: Impossible, and then… Level too insane to be confined by something as simple as a number: Phistomefel, the ultimate boss
@ashnikchauhan9103
@ashnikchauhan9103 Жыл бұрын
C'mon it wasn't that difficult, I only did it in 3 hours, with intermittent breaks of course for my brain to rest so that it recover from overheating thinking about the whisper lines and negative constrains and my color scheme where yellow pairs with blue but not green which pairs with orange which can pair with blue but not yellow. So yeah not that difficult at all.
@tanitabaumgartner2089
@tanitabaumgartner2089 2 жыл бұрын
I am so relieved he noticed the grey 1 at the end.
@megauser8512
@megauser8512 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@wixxed
@wixxed 2 жыл бұрын
28:28 "we've practically done the puzzle!" Simon is always *cracking* me up.
@randominternetguy3537
@randominternetguy3537 Жыл бұрын
Aha ha
@ashnikchauhan9103
@ashnikchauhan9103 Жыл бұрын
It really caught me off guard. I had seen your comment while just scrolling before and had forgotten. Though I am absolutely baffled and jealous that Simon got to this point in about 20 min which took me way longer, I am amused by his naivete. (great pun BTW)
@jeythegrey
@jeythegrey 2 жыл бұрын
rules should have been: 2 adjacent cells summing to 5 or 10 are marked with a V and X respectively, all X and V are given. This would have sounded a bit more intimidating
@cookiequeen5430
@cookiequeen5430 2 жыл бұрын
Yeeeey I had the same thought, I would've loved that :D
@kathyjohnson2043
@kathyjohnson2043 2 жыл бұрын
And Roman 😀
@RichardDamon
@RichardDamon 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was thinking that too. The rule set is basically the V/X marking with a negative constraint, and there just aren't any Vs or Xs.
@slurpleslixie
@slurpleslixie 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't know if I prefer explicitly having that wording or just having it there but implied, with a nod to it in the title.
@PauxloE
@PauxloE 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this would also explain the "roman" part of the puzzle.
@mskleftwich
@mskleftwich 2 жыл бұрын
I live for moments like 24:13. It brings me joy to see Simon’s joy when stumbling upon a great piece of logic! 🥰
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto!
@nilsp9426
@nilsp9426 2 жыл бұрын
It also proved that we in fact are closely related to... *monkey noises intensify*
@Baer1990
@Baer1990 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I love how he instinctively knows he stumbled upon something big, but then always takes a moment to realise what he has actually found
@MegaMisch
@MegaMisch 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely made me smile :3
@ArloLipof
@ArloLipof 2 жыл бұрын
24:12, simply the best epiphany ever witnessed on CTC.
@BigAsciiHappyStar
@BigAsciiHappyStar 2 жыл бұрын
There's a neat way of thinking about the horseshoes at the start: Horseshoes never contain a 5 or two digits adding to 10, so they must have one 1 or 9, one 2 or 8, one 3 or 7 and one 4 or 6. This avoids having to enumerate all the cases by hand.
@sanabas1
@sanabas1 2 жыл бұрын
@51:20, proving there's a 9 on the line doesn't immediately prove there's a 4 on the line. Takes a few extra steps to eliminate the 4: The 9 on the line in box 1 forces a 9 onto the line in box 3, and that prevents a 1 being on the line in box 3, forces the 1 into r1 of box 3, can remove the 1 pencil-marks from r1 of box 1. Now 4 can't be in r2c2 as it would be next to a 1. If 4 is in r2c3, there's nowhere left for 6 in r2. If 4 is in r2c1, that forces 1 & 6 in r2, leaves only a single low digit remaining in r2, the yellow 23, which must go r2c8 for the box 3 line to work. That must be surrounded by 9 and yellow 78, yellow 78 can't go next to the green 23, so r2c7 is a 9, r2c9 is the yellow 78. And now r3c8 has no fill. Can't be 1 as it's already in the row. Can't be yellow 23 as it's already in the box. Can't be green 23 as it's next to yellow 23 and would sum to 5. Can't be 4 as it's next to 78 on the line. So it's broken, and that proves the 4 you assumed on the line in box 1 is really there.
@GreRe9
@GreRe9 2 жыл бұрын
thx - I just was wondering how that works :-)
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 2 жыл бұрын
(Simon added a pinned comment about this.)
@fprosk
@fprosk 2 жыл бұрын
thank you this was bugging me
@seiinity
@seiinity 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing "Phistomefel" in the title just makes me so happy every time I see it. I can't wait.
@knightry
@knightry 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Sometimes I tire of their use of SEO by titling their videos relevant to current popular search trends, and I'm always happy to see the authors of these wonderful puzzles featured more prominently (Even in this case when we know Simon already obviously fawns over this author incessantly)
@inspiringsand123
@inspiringsand123 2 жыл бұрын
Rules: 03:09 Let's Get Cracking: 04:29 Puzzle Solved: 1:22:50 Simon's time: 1h18m21s What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! Phistomefel: 8x (00:20, 00:39, 01:00, 01:10, 02:38, 26:44, 1:04:27, 1:24:30) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Beautiful: 12x (27:11, 35:42, 36:30, 36:33, 44:00, 49:52, 55:36, 55:36, 55:44, 1:17:09, 1:20:42, 1:23:25) Obviously: 12x (01:43, 06:13, 08:09, 10:03, 10:12, 19:21, 26:15, 34:54, 35:38, 35:53, 59:34, 1:11:42) Sorry: 9x (10:07, 32:22, 41:56, 51:47, 51:47, 51:47, 52:48, 55:12, 1:04:09) By Sudoku: 9x (30:50, 31:06, 35:39, 37:02, 44:57, 59:01, 1:01:20, 1:12:54, 1:19:31) In Fact: 8x (00:25, 08:41, 11:40, 44:55, 52:35, 1:10:26, 1:12:41, 1:19:31) Wow: 7x (24:19, 34:22, 40:10, 46:31, 1:03:29, 1:13:07, 1:14:44) Good Grief: 6x (13:10, 38:15, 49:34, 49:52, 1:00:16, 1:15:07) Hang On: 6x (05:22, 28:58, 29:00, 1:06:47, 1:09:52, 1:21:57) Progress: 4x (28:34, 31:17, 45:25, 1:07:52) What on Earth: 3x (21:12, 31:25, 1:00:06) Goodness: 3x (52:48, 1:09:07, 1:10:56) The Answer is: 3x (12:14, 27:59, 1:01:26) I Have no Clue: 3x (01:36, 31:31, 38:34) Clever: 2x (26:39, 40:10) Approachable: 2x (01:59, 02:18) Stunning: 2x (1:22:58, 1:22:58) Useless: 1x (1:00:54) What a Puzzle: 1x (1:22:54) Naughty: 1x (28:16) Break the Puzzle: 1x (09:19) Fascinating: 1x (08:51) Incredible: 1x (1:23:46) Extraordinary: 1x (02:51) Elegant: 1x (1:23:22) Ridiculous: 1x (26:48) Deadly Pattern: 1x (1:15:05) Discombobulating: 1x (1:24:24) Shouting: 1x (52:51) Surely: 1x (1:09:41) Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video: Ten (42 mentions) Two (148 mentions) Green (86 mentions) Antithesis Battles: Low (19) - High (18) Even (5) - Odd (0) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn!
@joeg451
@joeg451 2 жыл бұрын
"I know two things about German Whispers lines" should be added
@Brian67859
@Brian67859 2 жыл бұрын
How many times does he select/clear/reselect the same cells over and over and over?
@pouletbelette
@pouletbelette 2 жыл бұрын
@@Brian67859 Inspiring Sand is a bot, not Rainman!
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 2 жыл бұрын
Shouting tends to be two different ones - You Are All Shouting At Me (for missing logic or the obvious) Shouting(going on) for when the kids are on holiday and playing downstairs or in the garden
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 2 жыл бұрын
There was a Cooking With (Proverbial) Gas. Presumably the price of Gas has gone up so needs the proverbial !
@emilywilliams3237
@emilywilliams3237 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pausing my watching of the video (at around 37:30) when Simon says that he has tears in his eyes. THIS is why I love this channel - not only because of the quality of the puzzles, but mainly because of the enthusiasm and genuine pleasure that Simon and Mark have in the beauty of the logic and the thought that goes into these hand-crafted puzzles. OK, now resuming my watch ... I am sure I will be equally impressed in the coming minutes of this video, but I had to pause now so that I could capture this thought.
@Tepalus
@Tepalus 2 жыл бұрын
Simon when solving: Tears of joy Me when solving: Tears of terror Phistomefel, you utter genious 👌🏽
@liampouncy7808
@liampouncy7808 2 жыл бұрын
In my mind, I'm imagining a scenario where Phistomefel isn't actually a mad genius. Instead, he's just incredibly lucky. Each time he wants to make a new puzzle he draws a couple of lines, randomly assigns a ruleset, job's a good'un. In this reality he's baffled by his success, and is constantly worried that one day he'll draw something wrong and the puzzle will consist of only deadly patterns.
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@margaritashcheglova8670
@margaritashcheglova8670 Жыл бұрын
sounds like ButteredSideDown xD
@samueldeandrade8535
@samueldeandrade8535 6 ай бұрын
That's King from One Punch Man.
@CptRyaffio
@CptRyaffio 2 жыл бұрын
the last bit of logic that clears up the 7/8s & 2/3s is so beautiful. The "odd one out" hook-shaped whispers line coming back to be relevant just feels so satisfying (especially since my first thought at seeing the puzzle was: "that is different from everything else, it'll be important for disambiguating something important." my first instinct was to start there)
@drlawler
@drlawler 2 жыл бұрын
I was watching this with the captions on, and it was fun seeing the translations of Phistomefel's name. My favorite was "Vista my fellas"!
@deerel
@deerel 2 жыл бұрын
In some weird way, Simon makes me feel smart. I find a number or even just understand the logic during the solve and feel proud. Don't know how you do it Simon. :)
@kaldo_kaldo
@kaldo_kaldo 2 жыл бұрын
When he's banging out such intense logic over and over it feels good to be up to speed even if for a moment
@jasonmetcalfe4695
@jasonmetcalfe4695 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same except for when he starts doing odd versions of SET - some of that is still very confusing for me
@ellisromero
@ellisromero 2 жыл бұрын
"Self praise is no praise". Okay then Simon: I'm proud of you! I didn't even bother trying to do this one even after watching the break in. A masterpiece.
@goliathcleric
@goliathcleric 2 жыл бұрын
"Don't get any ideas constructors out there!" Someone probably just thought "Challenge accepted, I'll make one of the digits on each German Whispers Line a secret 0 or 10, which a 5 can be next to."
@Varksterable
@Varksterable 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I was thinking more along the lines of digits must be between (minus)9 and +9. With the row, column, and box totals being +/- 35... [Edit: KZbin seems to hate negative numbers in comments. How self-protective. 😉 ]
@pelahnar4
@pelahnar4 2 жыл бұрын
Or a Killer Sudoku where one cell per row, column, and box is negative
@DanielHShead
@DanielHShead 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that the Schrodinger Cell rule set with the ten digits might be well suited to breaking German Whispers for that puzzle.
@Varksterable
@Varksterable 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanielHShead Every cell contains the digits 1-10 (plus or minus). The sign may be different vertically and horizontally. What kind of hell have we unleashed on sudoku? I'm sorry, Simon and all. But I think this will happen. I still need to trace through the whole "wrogn" thing where I'm fairly sure a flippant remark like this led to it being actually made into a real puzzle. OP is right. The puzzle setters need a challenge too. And a word to the wise; they are vastly more intelligent than we are...
@giansieger8687
@giansieger8687 2 жыл бұрын
the absence of the comma in the quote really confused me and made me start thinking about who constructs ideas
@jasond4084
@jasond4084 2 жыл бұрын
37:39 “Flaccid flashage” 37:43 “Maybe I should give those some sort of flaccid flashage as well.” Simon coming us with new terms left and right! 😂
@Anarelion
@Anarelion 2 жыл бұрын
that reaction at 24:10 is just pure honest joy :) happy to see people enjoying what they do
@superdan2593
@superdan2593 2 жыл бұрын
The last rule could have been written as: "Digits joined by an X add up to 10. Digits joined by a V add up to 5. All Xs and Vs are given!" :D
@miran248
@miran248 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea for an april fools puzzle!
@kathyjohnson2043
@kathyjohnson2043 2 жыл бұрын
And that is why it is Roman
@Lazy_Tiger11
@Lazy_Tiger11 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Also, I think there does need to be an agreed way of writing rules. Standard sudoku rules apply, standard Thermo rules apply, standard VX rules apply - all XV's given etc etc
@stephenbeck7222
@stephenbeck7222 2 жыл бұрын
m I think Mark did such an XV puzzle last year sometime.
@SjorsHoukes
@SjorsHoukes 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a fun one. You still need the word “orthogonally” in there for clarity though.
@andrewnelson2525
@andrewnelson2525 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the most sublime final disambiguator of a puzzle I have ever seen. Staring at an almost completed grid with nothing undone left but 23's and 78's in every box and going "I know this must resolve, but how?" and then the resolution was just amazing. And it's not through an added element, like a given digit or an inequality sign, or a stubby thermo -- just brilliant. Honestly from the very beginning I thought "Hmm, whispers puzzles usually have to have something to disambiguate hi from low, but there's nothing here but the lines. How odd." When I placed the 78 on the whisper line in box three I thought it might be significant that I couldn't determine which flavor of 78 it was (my Spidey sense was tingling as Simon would say), but it was even more beautiful than expected. What a finish. Just over 2 hours for me. I didn't make the unjustified leap Simon did to place 4 on the line in box one with the 9, but even my best attempt at self delusion cannot convince me that made up for the 40 minute difference in solve times! In a just world this would have at least 10 million views.
@Pyromonkey83
@Pyromonkey83 2 жыл бұрын
Just under 2 hours, although I did have some distractions along the way. This was an absolutely BRILLIANT puzzle. As Simon would say, it's "classic Phistomefel" in every way. Absolutely loved it.
@federicocucc7852
@federicocucc7852 2 жыл бұрын
As always the sudoku setter master is able to use a simple ruleset and produce an extraordinary and unique sudoku. I managed to solve this in exactly 1 hour and I am happy with that!
@runninonempty820
@runninonempty820 2 жыл бұрын
I loved it at 28:30 when Simon jokingly says "We've practically done the puzzle!" when there actually almost an hour to go yet.
@willtompkins3967
@willtompkins3967 2 жыл бұрын
Opened up the puzzle to attempt it, like I usually do, and immediately closed it and said "lets just watch today"
@marcosdiez7263
@marcosdiez7263 2 жыл бұрын
I was able to solve it, I think it's the first time I could tackle such a big beast! It took me some more than two hours. Yet one thing that helped me a lot, at my own pace, but I believe would have been helped Simon to do it faster was to pick a color for each domino tile value (so, all but the 5). I picked "friendly" colors for the dominoes members, hence yellow/green and blue/magenta were the high/low for the 78/23 dominoes, red/orange and black/gray for the 61/94 dominoes. By combining colors it became way easier to scan the grid and find matches and mismatches. Another thing I am doing when pencilmarking, is to use the 0 as a placeholder for "and something else", so it help me make partial pencil marks while keeping track that there are still missing digits to ponder. So, by writing in the cell center "092" I know the 92 are candidates, yet not the only ones even when I still didn't figure out the others (I guess it'd be great to have an unrestricted pencilmarking, allowing characters and other symbols, much like regular expressions to express sets of alternatives or to exclude values).
@MattCurney
@MattCurney 2 жыл бұрын
Moment of appreciation for Simon’s ability to find and be moved by beautiful puzzles
@th.nd.r
@th.nd.r 2 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely ridiculously good puzzle from Phistomefel and a solve of near-equal proportion, especially when combined with the very well written pinned comment. Just absolutely incredible. I have no idea how this channel isn’t huge. This channel deserves AT LEAST 1,000,000 subscribers, but I would’ve expected it to have double that by now. Stunning logic, cool ruleset (Anti-Roman? Perhaps call it Greek?), and yet another beautiful combination of one of the best setters in the world and one of the best solvers in the world. Bravo.
@stumbling
@stumbling 2 жыл бұрын
There's more beautiful logic appearing out of thin air in this puzzle than most contain by force.
@davidhughes7174
@davidhughes7174 2 жыл бұрын
Be proud, be very proud. A brilliant (and unsolvable for me) puzzle and a wonderful solve. Thank you.
@MyAnanin
@MyAnanin 2 жыл бұрын
No day is complete without Simon waxing poetry about Phistomefel. Always makes me smile 🥰😂
@Swisswavey
@Swisswavey 2 жыл бұрын
69 minutes exactly here. I found that really tough but then that's to be expected given the identity of the setter. I enjoyed it though. Amazing puzzle at first glance, my initial reaction was "How on earth am I meant to start this?"
@bertbergers9171
@bertbergers9171 2 жыл бұрын
Great finish with that one rule disambiguting the remainder! Good job Simon!
@jaydyer3999
@jaydyer3999 2 жыл бұрын
When you mentioned this puzzle a few days ago I set myself the challenge of solving it before you posted a video of it. I definitely needed the head start, but got through it. Brilliant puzzle as always.
@scottseifert743
@scottseifert743 2 жыл бұрын
50:35 Did I miss an explanation on why having a 9 on the whisper line requires a 4? A 4 requires a 9 but I'm not immediately spotting why (23)-9-(23) or 9-(23)-(78) doesn't work.
@paulmdt1
@paulmdt1 2 жыл бұрын
Simon added a comment about this 5 minutes after yours
@violetasuklevska9074
@violetasuklevska9074 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Simon has done it again. The way to prove this is to first notate the 9 on the Whispers line in box 1 (that we've just proved) and then notate it on the Whispers line in box 3 (top three cells of the line). Now regardless of where you place the 9 on the Whispers line, a 1 couldn't accompany it since it can't sit next to it (10-sum) nor have a square in between them since it breaks the high-low principle of the Whispers line. Therefore, in row 2, 1 can only be placed in box 1. At this point if we assume 4 wasn't on the Whispers line in box 1 we'd have to place it in one of the three cells above it in the same box. This gives us a 1-4 pair in box 1, leaving the central cell empty because of the 5-sum rule, and as a result, a 6 lives in the top part of box 1. Now, in row 2, we have relatively placed 3/4 low digits, so on the top part of the Whispers line in box 3 we can have at most one low digit and to abide the high-low principle it must be in the center, ie the central cell in box 3. As there's a 1-4 pair in the row this cell is either 2 or 3. Again on the same Whispers line, by the high-low principle, the cell directly below the central cell must be a low digit. Better yet it must be a 4 in order not to create an orthogonal 2-3 pair which breaks the 5-sum rule. All the pieces are there and the punchline is you can't place a 6 in box 3.# There's a 4 on the Whispers line in box 1.
@IDComputing
@IDComputing 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Very satisfying to solve it unassisted. Hit a brick wall after three hours but after a good night's sleep woke with fresh inspiration and finished after another hour. Hats off to Simon or anyone who can do this in less than two hours. Crazy puzzle.
@physicssquirrel
@physicssquirrel Жыл бұрын
This puzzle is brilliant. I love minimalist constraints like this. The emerging logic with 2-7 and 3-8 pairs propogating through the grid was quite satisfying to discover. Took me over two hours, and I only got unstuck around the 40 minute mark.
@BozoTheBear
@BozoTheBear 2 жыл бұрын
One of Phistomefel's best! Sometimes they're way too hard, but I only needed a few dozen hints from Simon this time. Great solve, Simon!
@jakejarvis6683
@jakejarvis6683 Жыл бұрын
The way that you figured out that there was a forcing sequence with the horseshoes was nothing shy of brilliant. Just noticing that the horseshoes only had four potential configurations was more than I ever would've gotten when attempting this puzzle.
@GotG113
@GotG113 2 жыл бұрын
Woohoo! I love it when Friday night is movie night! Love the "popcorn videos" lol ❤️🌟
@azpcox
@azpcox 2 жыл бұрын
Phistomefel should have called this XV Whispers with the XV constraint listed in the rule set along with “All instances of orthogonal digits summing to 5 or 10 are given.” And then Simon would be even more incredulous with NO XVs and just negative constraints! Very powerful and yes, this was just a popcorn episode for me.
@fyshfysh
@fyshfysh 11 ай бұрын
this is one of the best and beautiful solve paths I've seen (working through this in vaguely chronological order, a year behind 😂). superb that it gets coloured completely then that last whisper resolves it. phistomefel is a complete genius
@simonbergqvist
@simonbergqvist 2 жыл бұрын
50:35 Got scared here. Your proof said that the 9 has be in the line, but the 4 could still not be in it. It could be 3-9-2 still. Or 8-3-9 and others. Luckyily it turned out right in the end!
@zoicon5
@zoicon5 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought. Is there some reason why there had to be a 4 next to the 9, or did Simon just get lucky?
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 2 жыл бұрын
@@zoicon5 He got lucky. See Simon's comment pinned above 📌, and my reply.
@Coyotek4
@Coyotek4 2 жыл бұрын
It took me nearly two hours (I clocked in at 1:43:39, but it was probably a few minutes beyond this), but I was able to tame this behemoth. Stunning ... simply stunning!
@alandouglas2789
@alandouglas2789 2 жыл бұрын
Nah
@GuilhermeCarvalhoComposer
@GuilhermeCarvalhoComposer 2 жыл бұрын
Finally took the time to watch this in its entirety, and WOW. Absolutely amazing job - once more - by both Phistomefel and Simon. Just excellent.
@xvnz
@xvnz 2 жыл бұрын
The rules should have explained X, V and ended with all Xs and Vs are given. I think that would give you a moment of "that's useful" which immediately turns into "oh no" once you look at the grid. :D
@jomo87
@jomo87 2 жыл бұрын
That is hilarious - feels more like how the rules might have been phrased if it were a Zetamath puzzle, perhaps!
@DiedIntimewhenkilled
@DiedIntimewhenkilled 2 жыл бұрын
I think that wouldn't work for many reasons
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 2 жыл бұрын
I think this would only work if you had seen an XV puzzle before. If this was the first XV puzzle I'd ever seen, I'd just be convinced the grid wasn't loading correctly in my browser and move on.
@xvnz
@xvnz 2 жыл бұрын
@@RichSmith77 don't know if you would be considered lucky or unlucky that the first XV puzzle you see is by Phistomephel
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 2 жыл бұрын
@@xvnz 😁
@SnowTheJamMan
@SnowTheJamMan 2 жыл бұрын
I solved my first Phistomefel puzzle a few days ago (and no it wasn't the 1 star one haha) and i'm very proud of myself, i saw this puzzle on LMD and i was amazed by the minimalism in the grid, can't wait to watch.
@LukeSumIpsePatremTe
@LukeSumIpsePatremTe 2 жыл бұрын
D stands for Germany, right?
@SnowTheJamMan
@SnowTheJamMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@LukeSumIpsePatremTe Yup, Deutschland
@JustLookingHere
@JustLookingHere 2 жыл бұрын
Just love watching you solve these puzzles. Especially your reactions when you find something. 👍
@sainyamgupta3058
@sainyamgupta3058 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing puzzle !! When Simon has to solve a mini sudoku before even beginning to solve the entire sudoku, it says something profound about the puzzle itself. Loved the solved as always !!
@grahamrskelly6042
@grahamrskelly6042 2 жыл бұрын
I had to( in a way) biforcate around how the horse shoes worked I suspect there is a way to figure it out simpler then the path that I took. Loved the puzzle took me two days with a break. But so fun can't wait to watch the video.
@FredT34
@FredT34 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Simon for sharing your thinking with us! What a journey!
@HalfBakedLunatic
@HalfBakedLunatic 2 жыл бұрын
I usually don't even look at videos that are longer than 45 minutes - but this was a treat from start to end, and well worth the time!
@susanquig7245
@susanquig7245 2 жыл бұрын
I watched and marveled. I got that it had to do with constraints in the horseshoes but gave up before working through them. I appreciated Simon writing down options. I will do that next time and maybe advance a bit further.
@pa5buk
@pa5buk Жыл бұрын
Wow, what an amazing puzzle! Thank you for sharing this with us. It took me about three hours to solve it myself. But the joy upon finishing... Wow!
@ericpraline1302
@ericpraline1302 2 жыл бұрын
Yet another brilliant epic. I had to have a separate screen with the horseshoe possibilities as couldn't keep it all in my head, glad to see Simon doing the same.
@novemberdag1127
@novemberdag1127 Жыл бұрын
The restrictions on 4 in box 4 eluded you for great time after placing the six. then at 54:04 you placed the pencilmark 4's in box 1, straight up shouted X-WING! at the computer. Cannot and will not ever be able to do what you do, and even keeping up with your logic or spotting something 10 mins before makes me feel so smart :') But the best thing is just to see you get so happy and genuinely touched by the logic and effort people put in their puzzels. You're a joy to watch
@stevendavid5370
@stevendavid5370 2 жыл бұрын
Way to go Simon!! Brilliant puzzle and even more was the solve!!
@DanielSloane
@DanielSloane 2 жыл бұрын
I solved it in just under 100 minutes. That's the best puzzle I've seen in a long time.
@SuperLukeX2
@SuperLukeX2 2 жыл бұрын
A video of Simon just reading off names? … I would watch that video tbh. I’m fairly new to this whole channel and deeper sudoku puzzles. I absolutely LOVE you guys! Thanks for opening this new world to me ❤️
@ukdavepianoman
@ukdavepianoman 2 жыл бұрын
A sublime work of genius. Phistomefel doesn't just create magnificent puzzles but new discoveries around patterns (which we, ably guided by Simon, are allowed to discover). How such visual simplicity leads to such an extraordinary line of logic leaves me gobsmacked.
@wokkawicca
@wokkawicca 2 жыл бұрын
I'm days late, and self-praise is indeed no praise, but I was particularly happy at being able to solve this one, however slowly. I just loved the series of epiphanies as the logic unfolded from the 46-19 interactions to coloring the 2378 dominoes.
@clairerichter2863
@clairerichter2863 2 жыл бұрын
What a delight of a puzzle, thanks Phistomefel! And Simon, my rusty brain does a calisthenics class watching you solve 😄, whilst having fun! Thank you!
@adamsnoyman734
@adamsnoyman734 2 жыл бұрын
At 1:04:38, you could resolve box 9 as the 2,3,4 are all ruled out of the whisper line. Since there has to be a low digit, you can place the 1 on the line and forcing the 9 into rows 7 and 8 by the XV restraint. This would get you those numbers in box 7 as you had suggested might be possible
@wayneboucher4883
@wayneboucher4883 2 жыл бұрын
So glad that grey 1 got resolved in the end! It was staring at me the whole time 😂
@podoke
@podoke 2 жыл бұрын
currently in the middle of replaying all of the sudoku apps:)) one of my favorite pastimes now a days is listening to creepypasta readings while solving sudoku puzzles via cracking the cryptic apps. hope u guys are planning on more updates/puzzles/apps for the future because im really enjoying them:D
@hrenes
@hrenes 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Phistomefel, I hope you enjoyed watching Simon's solving your masterpiece :)
@dmdeemer
@dmdeemer 2 жыл бұрын
Just got to 24:05. Had to re-watch it twice just to appreciate Simon's reaction.
@onlyonewayrm
@onlyonewayrm 2 жыл бұрын
Same! Made me so happy!
@MissVindicat
@MissVindicat 2 жыл бұрын
Priceless. 😄
@jasond4084
@jasond4084 2 жыл бұрын
30:26 “And now we have a ‘GRID OF PURITY’”. Sounds like the next Phistomefel puzzle to me
@kaldo_kaldo
@kaldo_kaldo 2 жыл бұрын
Simon is a catchphrase factory
@dreamwalkertunes
@dreamwalkertunes Жыл бұрын
This is the most beautiful sudoku I have ever seen. Including many I have watched from this channel.
@user-ox9oo6wp6d
@user-ox9oo6wp6d 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a Phistomefel puzzle! The interaction of the 4-cell German Whisper rings and the anti-XV rule set is just stunning, although it took me an hour to figure it out! But even afterthat, there are still more and more logics in it and every time I spot the beauty of them, I just feel "Wow, how can sombody come up with this?!" Finally I used around 2 hours to solve it. I haven't watched the video yet but I am looking forward to the solving of Simon. (I am from Hong Kong, so please forgive my bad English.)
@user-ox9oo6wp6d
@user-ox9oo6wp6d 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@slurpleslixie
@slurpleslixie 2 жыл бұрын
Simon trying really hard to not say "flaccid" was probably the second high point, after the relentless brilliance of the setting which was easily first
@raswartz
@raswartz Жыл бұрын
4h20m. Similar path to Simon's but I used four colors for 23/78 instead of two colors and I think that made it harder for me to spot how box 3 was different from box 5 at the end. Very hard but very satisfying puzzle.
@th.nd.r
@th.nd.r 2 жыл бұрын
Re: those who have finished the QAS hunt - instead of reading them all off, you could show a screen with all their names on it!
@freakshowGH
@freakshowGH 2 жыл бұрын
The logic of this puzzle is just mesmerizing. Fantastic puzzle and an equally fantastic solve!
@tabularasa0606
@tabularasa0606 2 жыл бұрын
And once you see the logic, it isn't even mad genius logic. It's simple beautiful logic. Every time it happens you say oh yes of course, instead of... WTF
@prahas777
@prahas777 2 жыл бұрын
At 31 min, 4 in B8! (It can't go on the line.) I spotted something in a Phistomefel puzzle. Yay!
@badradish2116
@badradish2116 2 жыл бұрын
you shouldve made 23 and 78 different colors, four colors, flash em if you know its say yellow but not if its high/low. if you ever have a color and can hone in on some of its cells theoretically you can use more colors to track that.
@PathOfShrines
@PathOfShrines 2 жыл бұрын
Astonishing puzzle; lovely way to spend the early evening. Really enjoyed finding the break-in here. 1:18:16.
@jimdavis2683
@jimdavis2683 2 жыл бұрын
I really think this is one of the all time great puzzles. The combination of simple rules, sparse grid, and challenging logic start to finish. Extremely elegant and unique. First time through I solved thanks to (a) an egregiously lucky error and (b) trifurcation (lol) on r2c7. On watching the video, Simon's early steps were much cleaner than mine (as usual). I do have a quibble at 50:04, I don't see how he's proven there's a 4 on the box 1 whisper line, but the 9 is certainly proven and that fixed my solve. Reworking from that point it puts a 9 on the whisper line at r2c7..9, and you can easily resolve which cell it's in. Many thanks to Phistomefel and Simon.
@MinecraftTheCreators
@MinecraftTheCreators 2 жыл бұрын
Just thought I'd point out he actually has a pinned comment explaining that mistake he did if you wanted some more information on it!
@jimdavis2683
@jimdavis2683 2 жыл бұрын
@@MinecraftTheCreators Hmm I think I made my comment on an un-refreshed copy of the video, I didn't see the pinned comment at the time, sorry for the duplication.
@MinecraftTheCreators
@MinecraftTheCreators 2 жыл бұрын
Haha ur fine! Figured it was something like that, just wanted to make sure you didn’t miss it 😄
@yellowtrumpetfish
@yellowtrumpetfish 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful puzzle, beautiful solve!
@dashvash5440
@dashvash5440 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, when you see the placed 4 :), very cool puzzle. Love Phistomefel.
@alphazero924
@alphazero924 2 жыл бұрын
52:54 "You've all been shouting at me for about a minute and a half haven't you?" Ok, first of all I don't know how I got so into a video about solving a sudoku that I was shouting at the screen and second of all I don't appreciate being called out, Simon.
@tomatomediumrare
@tomatomediumrare 2 жыл бұрын
This video deserves a cinema trailer. Like this: *Dramatic drums* Bass voice:THIS WINTER ... Simon:Oh dear ... Bass voice:From the creator of the most creative puzzle ... Simon:God grief ... Bass voice:Phistomefel ... Simon: absolutely genius ... Bass voice: with the famous puzzle cracker Simon Anthony ... Simon: we've broke the puzzle ... Bass voice: GET READY TO BE CRACKED ... Simon: let's get cracking ... Bass voice: now on KZbin! :D
@ldamoff
@ldamoff 2 жыл бұрын
From beginning to end that was a masterpiece.
@noahvale2627
@noahvale2627 Жыл бұрын
Somehow I got you to read my mind through a time machine. Yes I was thinking that you told me the 4 can't go on the interior if a whisper line.
@onlyonewayrm
@onlyonewayrm 2 жыл бұрын
"Do have a go." - nah you're alright thanks, I value what little sanity I have 🤣🤣🤣
@JohnADoe-pg1qk
@JohnADoe-pg1qk 2 жыл бұрын
Todo: Creation of puzzles that make Simon say strange sentences. 😊
@MohammedAlmotawa
@MohammedAlmotawa 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing puzzle. Good job Simon
@dragonspight
@dragonspight 2 жыл бұрын
I solved Balance Loop the other day without too much trouble, but I looked at this puzzle, worked out a little bit about the horseshoes, but just couldn't get the break-in. Thank you for the solve. I repeat your self praise to you that it may gain value, and I ridicule you for trying to put a 4 in the middle of a German Whispers line.
@dragonspight
@dragonspight 2 жыл бұрын
52:50 I was indeed shouting at you for about a minute. I'm glad you heard me eventually.
@jorgkuijt4735
@jorgkuijt4735 2 жыл бұрын
Oh dear... A 1.25 long CTC upload called the Phistomophel Miracle..I really shouldn't... But can't resist...
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 2 жыл бұрын
This really looks like a miracle. New ruleset and stunning logic from start to finish 👏. I used different colouring for 23 and 78. I believe it makes everything more familiar and hence easier to grasp (at least for me): green 23 ➡ green 23 green 78 ➡ blue 78 yellow 23 ➡ yellow 23 yellow 78 ➡ purple 78
@markbennet9058
@markbennet9058 2 жыл бұрын
This is just a beautiful puzzle. No idea how such a thing gets set. Wondering whether Phistomefel has been studying Simon's solving techniques (and/or psychology). Simon, I find your solving compelling - sometimes I see things ahead of you, but the consistency with which you find helpful techniques (eg the colouring in this one was non-standard) is beyond my capability. I learn something new every time.
@emo6577
@emo6577 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve gotta say that any type of negative constraint is just so interesting to me. Because it’s so weird and unnatural to work with, I love the moments where it finally clicks
@naphackDT
@naphackDT 2 жыл бұрын
That was tough... I don't regret taking an entire afternoon to solve this.
@MattiasDooreman
@MattiasDooreman 2 жыл бұрын
"The genius burns on your retina" - "do have a go". Lol, no thanks Simon. I'll just watch you do it.
@tole75
@tole75 2 жыл бұрын
1:15:00 69 X-wing ruling out the nines in box 7! Counting the seconds when you notice it :) Always enjoy watching your sudoku solving.
@Stormbolter
@Stormbolter 2 жыл бұрын
That was a thrilling solve!
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