The Pizza Sauce Secret No One Knows About

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Charlie Anderson

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📃 TABLE OF CONTENTS
0:00 - The Most Under-Appreciated Aspect of a Great Pizza Sauce
2:10 - What Preparation Method Leads to the Best Sauce?
4:42 - Taste Test of Cooked Sauces
9:02 - Making the Ultimate Detroit-Style Pizza Sauce
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@bigbro973
@bigbro973 9 ай бұрын
There is a secret about Stanislaus tomatoes. The alta cucinas are the first picks from the field when harvested. The alta cucinas are always the best canned tomatoes you can get.
@brainwashingdetergent4322
@brainwashingdetergent4322 6 ай бұрын
How about the Tomato Magic variety from Stanislaus? I was under the impression that those were the ground version of the Alta Cucina?
@deankaprolet3994
@deankaprolet3994 3 ай бұрын
They taste great but you gotta strain a lil bit of the extra juice/puree
@Ona1000
@Ona1000 9 ай бұрын
Something that wasn't mentioned - For a thin crust pizza, cooking the sauce will significantly help with a crisp crust. Less water content helps a lot to reduce a floppy dough.
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 9 ай бұрын
yup!
@borbetomagus
@borbetomagus 9 ай бұрын
Par-baking the crust can help too, though one will have to experiment with the par-bake, so it's not burnt at the end.
@viperocco
@viperocco 8 ай бұрын
@@borbetomagus I used to do that as well. I now use a 60% hydration, 375 for 20 mins.
@Reggie2000
@Reggie2000 7 ай бұрын
Yo momma has floppy dough!
@jaycee_baron
@jaycee_baron 6 ай бұрын
Put the pizza on a nonstick pan on the stovetop burner. Remember, NY style pizza slices sit out on display, and then they get popped back in the oven for a quick bit when you buy them. Better yet, from the start, cook your pizza in the pan on the burner and brown the bottom, finishing it off in the oven on broil on a sheet pan or steel on a low rack. Keep the pan on the heat on the stovetop. Right before pulling out the pizza when the top has reached your desired doneness, turn off the stovetop burner but leave the pan on it. Slice the pizza, then put the slices back in the pan to rest, instead of on the cutting board, a plate, or a rack. Guaranteed crispy crust, regardless of the sauce and cheese quantity.
@geezberry8889
@geezberry8889 4 ай бұрын
2:00 if you freeze this stuff and defrost it you will see there is significant water separation (this can be good if you wanna discard the water, sauce will be richer)
@prettyboy54321
@prettyboy54321 9 ай бұрын
I am so glad that I found your channel. EXCELLENT content! I am looking forward to all of the other iconic foods/recipes that you tackle.
@jpolchlopek
@jpolchlopek 9 ай бұрын
Dude, at 9:20ish is where I started realizing how much thought you were putting into your lighting and camera placement. Seriously excellent, Charile.
@alexsalari2014
@alexsalari2014 9 ай бұрын
I gotta say, this is a cooks channel. I’m not saying people who don’t cook that much can’t enjoy but I am the cook at my house and this is how I think. Why does this taste this way, what would happen is I changed this? Always trying to discover a perfect flavor in my mind that no one gets! Lol I gets that normal people may not think that way but I appreciate insane work in detail that you do and love the passion
@jpoppinmoneyunit7098
@jpoppinmoneyunit7098 5 ай бұрын
My Man. Exactly the video I was looking for. Looks like i'm going to have to binge watch the rest of your videos. Keep it up.
@Grayald
@Grayald 9 ай бұрын
The pursuit of the perfect home style Detroit pizza is the pursuit of the divine. Also, here's a trick I picked up a really long time ago. I think it was on the pizza making forums when they were new. It was to put your sauce together, then split it into two parts. One a little more than the other. Set the smaller amount aside. Cook the larger amount. Not to paste, but definitely more than you would want your pizza sauce cooked. Then combine them. It's NOT The same as cooking the whole batch halfway.
@bensebaugh6017
@bensebaugh6017 9 ай бұрын
That is actually a very interesting idea, pizza making forums is the be all... end all... of pizza quests. That site has helped me so much I just can't say enough good things about it.
@_-JR01
@_-JR01 7 ай бұрын
What would you say the ratio should be? 60/40, 80/20 etc?
@Grayald
@Grayald 7 ай бұрын
@@_-JR01 That's entirely dependent on your preference, and based on how watery or sauces to start with. For me, with the crushed tomatoes I use, It's closer to 60/40. Best thing to do is start at 50/50 and adjust from there.
@scottcohen1776
@scottcohen1776 9 ай бұрын
Your videos have come a long way in such short time, kudos! I'm really becoming a huge fan of your channel.
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, I really appreciate that!
@anti-ethniccleansing465
@anti-ethniccleansing465 4 ай бұрын
@@CharlieAndersonCooking 02:00 Why are you freezing the sauce for only two days? The sauce can be refrigerated for two days without a problem. How bizarre!
@mrridikilis
@mrridikilis 6 ай бұрын
my favorite hometown pizza joint has used doctored-up Hunt's tomato paste for their sauce for decades. I've recreated it at home by adding just a smidge of water, garlic powder, and dried italian herbs to the tomato paste. tastes fantastic!
@wopalongcassidy
@wopalongcassidy 6 ай бұрын
Hunts is high quality.
@mikea479
@mikea479 9 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to learn more about your pop up!
@ryangies4798
@ryangies4798 9 ай бұрын
Queens NYC resident here. My neighborhood is old Italian/Greek so I've learned a thing or two. Nearly every joint around here uses a cooked sauce. I don't know anything about "Detroit" style but if it's a spinoff of our Sicilian or Gramma Style then the sauce is cooked long. The best places cook down the tomatoes and add some ingredients (never any dry herbs! or tomato paste!). Imagine a focaccia style crust, browned perfectly with lots of delicious imported olive oil, at least two kinds of cheeses. The end result is an unbelievably delicious slice that will stick in your head for all of eternity.
@groom_of_the_stool
@groom_of_the_stool 9 ай бұрын
If you ever get a chance, go to Detroit and have some of their pizza. Oh man, so good. I'm not saying one type of pizza or the other is better, but just try it if you get the chance. Just wow.
@ryangies4798
@ryangies4798 9 ай бұрын
@@groom_of_the_stool I’m totally down for trying any style of pizza. From the videos it looks tasty. The only Detroit style I’m aware of is Little Caesar’s which I might have tried in the 1980s but can’t remember or it just wasn’t memorable.
@Tinil0
@Tinil0 9 ай бұрын
@@ryangies4798 Obviously no one would call Little Ceasars representative of anything but the cheapest possible take-out pizza haha
@groom_of_the_stool
@groom_of_the_stool 9 ай бұрын
@@ryangies4798 Just don't try California style. Just don't. It isn't good. And I'm from Sacramento originally.
@sanctuary2103
@sanctuary2103 8 ай бұрын
There’s a place in Washington DC called Red Light Pizza that serves Detroit style. I love all good pizza but generally prefer Neapolitan or NY style with a Neapolitan style Margherita my hands down favorite both to eat and make. That said last summer I had a Detroit style pizza at the Red Light, my first, and it was easily some of the best pizza I’ve ever had bar none. Although it’s a deep-dish, pan style pizza it was impossibly light with a nice crisp to the crust and perfect char around the edges. It’s a substantial slice but so all-around light to be almost delicate and not the least bit oily or greasy. If you get to the DC area give it a try, I live in California and I would plan a weekend trip there just to get a slice! ;)
@pkwilliamson4579
@pkwilliamson4579 6 ай бұрын
Lately, I have been extremely surprised at --- Walmart. Their canned crushed tomatoes are unbelievable, at around $1.30 per can they are also a great deal. They are a bit more liquid (I don't think they use Roma-derived tomatoes) but unbelievably sweet and with a lot of tomato taste. I grow tomatoes so I have a good understanding of the range of tastes. Try them out and tell me what you think.
@isaiahmc360
@isaiahmc360 8 ай бұрын
Having worked at a pizzeria before, the combination of crushed tomatoes and a little tomato paste helped increase the tomato concentration and thicken the sauce. But like the crushed tomatoes, not all tomato pastes are created equal…
@XxXxkeybladematerxXx
@XxXxkeybladematerxXx 8 ай бұрын
This is why for my homemade sauce I reduce half my tomato sauce in the oven low and slow over the course of six to eight hours. I throw in shallots, garlic, ect... And create a flavor bomb that I then marry with a five to ten minute simmered fresh sauce with fresh basil and oregano. It's bright, acidic, fresh, fragrant, but also deep, earthy, and complex.
@mytreesloth
@mytreesloth 6 ай бұрын
I always throw a splash of wine and a dash of sugar into my crushed tomatoes, salt to taste and that is all the raw sauce I ever need. Good video, thanks for the info.
@jimbucket2996
@jimbucket2996 6 ай бұрын
As a 44 year old who has been growing and cooking tomatoes since I can remember, I prefer long cooked tomatoes or fresh salted tomatoes over anything else. Nothing in-between.
@dansklrvids7303
@dansklrvids7303 9 ай бұрын
Outstanding video!
@devastatoraudio
@devastatoraudio 9 ай бұрын
Begin from Detroit, living two blocks away from Louies, and having Jets and Buddies everwhere I can say cooking the sauce for me is mandatory. Subbed, thumbs up, Im liking what I see here. Add small amount of Fennel to the sauce, at least for me thats Jets secret.
@jhippl
@jhippl 9 ай бұрын
great vid as always and congrats on the 100k
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@KryssAA
@KryssAA 9 ай бұрын
Congrats on the 100k subscribers !
@Your_Mailman_Grows_7121
@Your_Mailman_Grows_7121 9 ай бұрын
Really awesome job, love these vids, thx
@The-Rika-Jo-Hannta
@The-Rika-Jo-Hannta 16 күн бұрын
aw
@rogerwilco6725
@rogerwilco6725 9 ай бұрын
Congrats on 100k subscribers, Charlie!
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@waify2678
@waify2678 2 ай бұрын
thank you for the sauce recipe. i have been struggling with the sauce for months. never knew it was as easy as just buying a specific brand of canned and just lightly spicing it and simmering. really awesome stuff and you definitely elevated my pizza to a way better level
@mattydominic4219
@mattydominic4219 4 ай бұрын
I like your approach & your process of honing it in. Best luck w your pop-up!
@markrisch3923
@markrisch3923 6 ай бұрын
I ran a bakery and wood fired pizza joint for 15 years and Alta Cucina were my destination tomato. Good choice!
@NickCombs
@NickCombs 9 ай бұрын
The ultimate budget version is gonna be 100% tomato paste + water. To bring in that fresh tomato acidity, add citric acid (and malic if you have it). Just test it between tiny pinches until it tastes right for you. Optionally, add a small amount of sugar if the paste doesn't start out sweet enough. You can even do this trick for pasta, in which case I recommend adding a splash of apple cider vinegar or balsamic to make it taste a lot like it has wine in it (before adjusting with acid & sugar).
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 9 ай бұрын
I know it would be good but it just seems wrong. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@NickCombs
@NickCombs 9 ай бұрын
​@@BlackJesus8463Yeah, whether it's a good fit for you is gonna depend on your budget and preferences. I just wanted to point out that it's not necessary to buy the expensive tomatoes if that's feeling like a barrier to good sauce.
@railasvuo
@railasvuo 9 ай бұрын
In Finland tomato paste is the same price as canned tomatoes
@NickCombs
@NickCombs 9 ай бұрын
​@@railasvuo The Alta Cucina tomatoes range $10-20 per can. For me, tomato paste is $1. Cheaper whole tomatoes exist near that price, but they usually taste worse than the paste trick.
@railasvuo
@railasvuo 9 ай бұрын
@@NickCombs Mutti's tomatoes 1-2€. Paste 1€ + other stuff
@cileth
@cileth 9 ай бұрын
Whenever I use whole canned tomatoes I pour them out over a metal strainer and then break apart the tomatoes a bit. It lets a lot of the excess moistier drain and I also don't use the canning liquid in the sauce. The can liquid can be add a bit of a metallic taste, though it varies brand to brand. From there it's just a bit of salt and occasionally a pinch of sugar depending on how the tomatoes taste. If I'm feeling spicy I'll add some garlic/chili flakes/dried oregano, but usually prefer the plain.
@18matts
@18matts 7 ай бұрын
I rinse my tomatoes to get rid of the basil and basil flavor. I can't stand bazil
@tigergreg8
@tigergreg8 7 ай бұрын
I had a patient we had in the past tell me that best brand he found was Mutti It's at the local Italian Store nearby, I tried it, and the sauce was delicious. I'll have to check this one out too. Thanks.
@johnvrabec9747
@johnvrabec9747 3 ай бұрын
I concur, Mutti sauce is like home made.
@GlockAndARock
@GlockAndARock 2 ай бұрын
Dude idk why but the Mutti at my place is almost tasteless versus when I’ve made from scratch cherry tomato pizza sauce I’ve had taste. Great taste. Just cnt get the taste on Mutti right for whatever reason
@gautam-narula
@gautam-narula 9 ай бұрын
Congrats on the pizza pop up! You should definitely make a behind-the-scenes video of what that’s been like
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! Yeah that would be a good idea
@MoGhotbi
@MoGhotbi 8 ай бұрын
You should try the "Pizzaiolo" sauce that Stanislaus makes. It may be very close to what you're looking for. I love it for my NY style pies. I'm from California but was visiting my daughter who lives in Brooklyn last week. We went to a pizza place that was delicious and I noticed they had Alta Cucina, 7/11, Tomato Magic and Pizzaiolo - maybe they make a blend using all those? Also congrats on hitting 100K.
@David-we3sb
@David-we3sb 7 ай бұрын
Great video! I like your scientific and testing approach! I've been making pizza on Fridays for years and in my sauce, I add fennel seeds to hot oil in the saucepan until fragrant (5-10 seconds), then pour the blended tomatoes in. I usually cook between 30 and 60 minutes. The cooking softens the fennel seeds as well.
@DELTA9XTC
@DELTA9XTC 6 ай бұрын
fennel seeds ha? atm i dont have the taste of those seeds in my mind, isnt this a rather untypical flavour in a pizza?
@David-we3sb
@David-we3sb 6 ай бұрын
@@DELTA9XTC fennel is used in sausages sometimes, it goes really well with tomato based sauces like pizza sauce
@lynnglidewell7367
@lynnglidewell7367 8 ай бұрын
Very informative video! You covered the bases. Centro Tomatoes is readily available at my local Walmart. So seeing it was one of the acceptable alternative brands you suggested I'll go with that. I'm from Detroit and use to live about two miles from Buddy's original location. Ate it most of my life. I'm 71. I'll let you know how it turns out.
@scoobtoober2975
@scoobtoober2975 8 ай бұрын
Cento San Marzano DOP from italy are easily available at most big box grocery stores. Very good. Whole peeled, then stick blend
@preamble466
@preamble466 7 ай бұрын
That’s the best tomato by far. Only lift the whole tomatoes out of the can, shake off the excess sauce, and grate them with a small cheese grater. You’re really only after the flesh for the best sauce of any kind.
@patewok3649
@patewok3649 4 ай бұрын
Charlie, I am so glad that I came across your videos and sub'd. Dude these Alta Cucina tomatoes are absolutely next level. They are by far the best tomatoes for pizzas. I made 3 different pizzas and brought friends over for each type of pizza which were detroit stye, new york style, and neapolitan pizzas. I used my old go to tomatoes for my pizzas which were a san marzano tomatoe and one with the Alta Cucina. I even made a raw, and a slightly cooked version, same ingredients (salt, sugar, oregano, and one garlic clove) and same cook time of 10 minutes. I really do not like cooked sauce much but I will say, the Alta Cucina's completely stole the show. Not just on one pizza but all them. Every single person loved them and the funny part was that we liked the cooked version on the Detroit style pizzas but the raw on the new york and neapolitan pizzas. It's a bummer they come in the big #10 cans but I froze the remainder of the tomatoes. I can't wait to try them in other dishes now. Again, I really appreciate you bringing them up on your video. Game changer for sure.
@calculusentropy
@calculusentropy 4 ай бұрын
#1 reason chefs avoid blenders on tomaters is breaking up the seeds, which add off flavor vs hand mashing or similar. I agree with cooked. Well done.
@Demasx
@Demasx 9 ай бұрын
My mouth is watering now... 🤤
@sdmishler
@sdmishler 7 ай бұрын
Lot's of great info in this video! Here's a couple things that might be worth trying. 1) Mixing uncooked sauce with heavily cooked sauce. 2) Using a better quality tomato paste such as Stanislaus Saporito or Super Dolce. I live near Detroit and love Jet's pizza. Their sauce definitely has a flavor in it that I've only gotten from Saporito Super Heavy Pizza Sauce. I haven't tried Super Dolce yet but it sounds like it's a similar product but even sweeter. I rarely eat at Buddy's anymore since it's expensive and the quality isn't consistent at the one near my house.
@evanduvall2359
@evanduvall2359 9 ай бұрын
Congrats on hitting 100K! 🎉 So happy I stumbled across your page. I love these kind of deep dive food videos, quality is top notch. I think a collab between you and Ethan Chlebowski would be awesome.
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@manuelgem449
@manuelgem449 3 ай бұрын
Yeah! Charlie,Ethan and that dude that beats up the refrigerator would be an awesome collaboration! 👍
@danielshults5243
@danielshults5243 4 ай бұрын
One way to reduce the water content without having to cook is simply to pour the entire contents of the can in a fine mesh strainer. The thin watery stuff will drain through, leaving the thicker sauce and whole tomatoes in the strainer. You can also crush the tomatoes a bit by hand or lightly pulse them in a blender to free up even more water before putting it all in the strainer. I like raw sauce, and this has become my move for ensuring I don't end up with a watery soggy mess on my pies.
@HenryT
@HenryT 9 ай бұрын
Chicago Pizza next!
@JP-vx2sr
@JP-vx2sr 6 ай бұрын
Tomato sauce is like adding hops to beer. Hop additions go in at different times, giving a deep mildly bitter taste, all the way up to a very raw floral taste bordering on perfume. I like a tomato sauce that is blended: heavily cooked, somewhat cooked, and raw.
@ratherbeboating10
@ratherbeboating10 7 ай бұрын
It appears my local resturant supply house carries the alta cucina so that will be noted. I recently cam across your channel and followed along your NY pizza journey. I built my own recipe but came to find out our doughs are nearly identical as is crushed tomato blend. (cento all in one) Ironically the cento has been hard to find lately but my local store started carrying the pastene brand crushed tomatoes and they have a very nice flavor. I've also noticed they are thicker and the crushed tomatoes are a bit more chunky. That seems to be how I recall the sauce being when I was a kid in NY. While I've gone back several time to some of the places I've been to as a kid they just aren't quite the same... maybe my memories are biased. What I can say is that they were all still significantly better than a lot of slices I've gotten in NJ over the years. Not throwing shade or anything either... It just seems bad places last longer here because the competition isn't as much competition near by depending on the area. There are plenty of good places here too... you just have to find them. I did have my confirmation bias strengthened when I took a few friends to a place from when I was a kid... They all called me a pizza snob because nothing "impressed me" so when we got there I let them eat. They all kind of looked at me when I told them this was just an average place... From then on they understood why I was the way I was... It was consistent, good and you always knew what you were getting.
@Zoo-Wee-Mama-Sq
@Zoo-Wee-Mama-Sq 9 ай бұрын
I've been making my detroit style pizzas with beer dough for a while now, and it adds crazy good flavor. Idk if you ferment your detroit style pizza dough but if you don't then it's a quick way to add a similar flavor. Credits to Brian Lagerstrom for the idea but he used it in a cast iron pizza
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 9 ай бұрын
Yup! Aged dough smells like beer if not alcohol. Legit shortcut like using paste in the sauce and low moisture mozz. 👍
@borbetomagus
@borbetomagus 9 ай бұрын
Nice sauce! If you're up for two other options have a look for the video "How to Make Tomato Sauce from Fresh Tomatoes" by Serious Eats culinary director Daniel Gritzer. His tomato sauce recipe is pretty intensive, but the resulting sauce is complex and worth trying once. Who knows, maybe you could adapt the recipe with one or more Stanislaus tomato sauce varieties. Another option would be to take a tip from "Chef John's Secret Pizza Sauce Recipe" by cooking two anchovies (in olive oil) at the beginning to add an umami element to your sauce. Perhaps neither recipe matches the flavor profile you're looking for your pizzas, but may have other options worth considering.
@kenh4848
@kenh4848 8 ай бұрын
I love the super dolce. I add water to thin it to my desired consistency and add my spices. I keep it thick for Detroit and thin it more for thin crust.
@printdivisionafrica469
@printdivisionafrica469 9 ай бұрын
also congrats on 100k!
@BennyJeters
@BennyJeters 9 ай бұрын
Great work Chaz! Where’s the food truck?
@JNYC-gb1pp
@JNYC-gb1pp 7 ай бұрын
I've used Redpack for years. It's just so good and you can get it everywhere. Though my favorite is Sclafani - though it does come in a large can.
@petermoore900
@petermoore900 7 ай бұрын
So I tried this with your NY style recipe (which I am a huge fan of) and Cento All-in-Ones. While I agree the sauce had a "better" flavor in the abstract, the resulting slice to me tasted a little less authentic. I guess I'm used to that relatively bland uncooked sauce flavor on a NY thin crust slice. For a deep dish though, especially Detroit style, I could see this working much better.
@40russia
@40russia 8 ай бұрын
I use Bianco DiNapoli pelati. Whole peeled tomatoes. I buy them by the 6 pack from Amazon. I may hand crush or in a food mill. I cook them with olive oil, salt, sliced thin garlic and basil stems I pick out later. Cook out on low for 40 minutes. Still fresh and reduced. So gooood.
@rpmfla
@rpmfla 6 ай бұрын
Tomato Magic is my favorite base for my pizza sauce. The flavor profile is slightly acidic and not too sweet and the texture/consistency is exactly what I want.
@rogerdiz3520
@rogerdiz3520 7 ай бұрын
I prefer San marzano, they do make a difference and hand blend them... crushing the seeds adds bitterness and hand blending avoids that. I cook the sauce overnight while the dough is resting and it makes it super flavorful. Sauce for me is a several day process, put fresh basil and oregano in 24 hrs before I cook it. Give it a try charlie, it's fantastic
@Ben-uq5xi
@Ben-uq5xi 9 ай бұрын
@I like to open the can and leave in the fridge a few days to let the excess moisture evaporate. Thickens it up. I also put my seasonings in a when I open the can. Might be an interesting test if cooked vs fridge evaporated.
@greglee1585
@greglee1585 9 ай бұрын
Looks delicious Charlie! I am definitely on the hunt for those tomatoes! One question, why are you using an Immersion blender and not a food mill to keep it the sauce less liquid?
@healthhollow7218
@healthhollow7218 9 ай бұрын
I love San marzano tomatoes but I’ve never tried anything else. I may see if I can try to find the ones you use and see how they taste! Looks like they’re pretty good 😊
@geol1936
@geol1936 9 ай бұрын
Interesting factoid, Charlie. Many top pizzerias use uncooked tonatoes for their pizzas. However, there are some pizza makers like Mark Iaccone who swear by using cooked tomato sauce (Mark says ge still uses his grandmother's recipe).
@zepar221
@zepar221 5 ай бұрын
My fondest childhood pizza memory was a deep dish made at a Buddy's in the Detroit area. Me and a friend make pizzas at home but we are total amateurs. We dream of slinging pizzas and pasties but we have a long way to go and a lot to learn.
@kennykastner9363
@kennykastner9363 6 ай бұрын
I live in Modesto where Stanislaus Foods is located. Great company. Great workers and the Cortopassi family are really good people.
@tk-gn1tn
@tk-gn1tn 8 ай бұрын
Great videos! Is this the last of the series or is there one more? It seems like one more, but it’s been a while.
@nathanieltan3569
@nathanieltan3569 9 ай бұрын
Recently I've been creating pizza sauces with some home grown san marzano tomatoes. With fresh tomatoes you really need to reduce them for a while to get the flavor (and color) where you want it to be. I over reduce the sauce slightly and then add a couple fresh tomatoes at the end to add some more liquid and add some of that acidity back.
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 9 ай бұрын
I didn't know you could cook the acidity out. Seems a much better option than adding sugar.
@nathanieltan3569
@nathanieltan3569 9 ай бұрын
@@BlackJesus8463 I don’t know if the actual acids are going away. I think the heat just breaks down more complex sugars so it tastes sweeter and that dominates the flavor. But yea for a pizza sauce I’d prefer to cook it over adding sugar.
@frankb7811
@frankb7811 9 ай бұрын
hey bud, you don't cook pizza sauce. simple hand crush with extra virgin olive oil and a touch of sea salt...that's all the master's do. No sugar, no black pepper, no powdered crap. best of luck!
@nathanieltan3569
@nathanieltan3569 9 ай бұрын
@@frankb7811 if you use fresh tomatoes you have to. There is simply too much water otherwise. Canned tomatoes have significantly less water content so it’s not necessary with them.
@charlesdimino6524
@charlesdimino6524 8 ай бұрын
Plum tomatoes are not San Manzano tomatoes
@brianschneider5292
@brianschneider5292 8 ай бұрын
I am jealous of you when I hear you bite into those slices....the crunch!
@IshadaKatzteilov
@IshadaKatzteilov 7 ай бұрын
I use 2/3 cooked sauce and then add 1/3 uncooked, blend em up and swirl it on the dough. Best of both worlds, and it works quite well.
@bruschi8148
@bruschi8148 9 ай бұрын
I think tomato magic is their best product.. Nice and thick crushed tomatoes and no seeds. I use it uncooked and just salt with it and sprinkle the dough with oregano
@bradfordmitchell4324
@bradfordmitchell4324 5 ай бұрын
All this information is awesome, thank you. I would like to suggest that you give "Carmelina" brand "San Marzano" tomatoes a try. They are packed in a puree of the whole tomatoes that didn't remain whole for packing. The "Alta Cucina" are packed in juice which really makes a difference in the consistency and texture if you cook your sauce. I cook my sauce, but only for about 20 minutes or so. I believe that these tomatoes are an equal quality to "Alta Cucina" and the fact that they're packed in puree not juice makes a huge difference in the flavor profile and texture of the final product.....at least in my opinion. Give em a shot.
@robertstrickland2121
@robertstrickland2121 6 ай бұрын
I cook for about 20 min, but add a 1/2 tsp of beef paste to a small can of sauce. Go easy, it’s like anchovy, a little goes a log way, also darkens the sauce.
@MrGonzoron
@MrGonzoron 7 ай бұрын
SMH, I didn't even consider freezing portions of the #10 can. I just started using them, and was worried about waste! Thank you for the great tips!
@user-cm2sn
@user-cm2sn 6 ай бұрын
maybe to enrich the flavour of the sauce without removing the fresh taste you could try dehydrating the sauce in a dehydrator or cooking it a really low temperature on a baking sheet (like 50-60c or 120-140f) hopefully you wont lose the freshness of the sauce, but citric acid may help regain that happens.
@cmac3530
@cmac3530 9 ай бұрын
If you want a thicker sauce Stanislaus makes Saporito!
@zepar221
@zepar221 5 ай бұрын
Ever notice anything that is "twice baked" is some how better than anything else? I asked my friend that and he could not argue about that, and he loves to argue just to argue. He has parents who are excellent cooks and knows what good food is. What's better than "twice baked'? Trice baked! Everything is better when you're baked.....repeatedly.
@BigEBigs
@BigEBigs 9 ай бұрын
What about straining the no cook to get the water out?
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking 9 ай бұрын
I did try that actually! It’s not a bad method if you want to maintain the raw tomato taste with a thicker consistency. But the leftover juice actually tastes really good too so personally I think the flavor is better with the juice included.
@BigEBigs
@BigEBigs 9 ай бұрын
@@CharlieAndersonCooking interesting. I never considered the juice to have that much depth of flavor, but now I'll have to separate it and check it out. Thank you. And Thx for replying. Really appreciate your efforts and the way you approach these trials. As a life long pizza enthusiast it's truly appreciated. Stellar videos!
@christopherberry8519
@christopherberry8519 6 ай бұрын
Fermented tomato sauce!!! you have to try it!
@joemacias2360
@joemacias2360 9 ай бұрын
I always add a can of Cento tomato paste to thicken the sauce and add umami flavor
@unstopable96
@unstopable96 9 ай бұрын
I'm curious what it would be like if you added some water back to the cooked sauce to replace it. That would tell you if it's the cooking or concentrating of the flavors that is doing the heavy lifting. Thanks for the video!
@zimmejoc
@zimmejoc 9 ай бұрын
If you can find 6 in 1 tomatoes, get them. Years ago, I got lucky and found them in 28oz cans. I only see them in #10 cans anymore.
@saucyruben
@saucyruben 9 ай бұрын
yes! he showed them in video for a second so maybe he’ll talk about it soon. those are my favorite so far
@zimmejoc
@zimmejoc 9 ай бұрын
@@saucyruben when I did a deep dive into trying to make real Chicago pizza deep dish (e.g. Lou Malnati or Giodano's), I saw in some forum that the best Chicago places use 6 in 1. They did taste way better than any other canned tomato I had access to.
@TheEzReiter
@TheEzReiter 8 ай бұрын
Nice video. So, have you tried using the Long Cooked sauce then add some fresh no cooked tomatoes to "Brighten" the long cooked sauce with some fresh tomato flavor.
@mrbuzzsaw
@mrbuzzsaw 6 ай бұрын
cooking knocks the can taste out
@stenquists1
@stenquists1 9 ай бұрын
Some fancier Neapolitan style pizza places strain the canned tomatoes and only use the whole, (unstemmed/ unseeded if necessary, then handcrushed) tomatoes to make their sauce. I have never tried it because decent tomatoes are very expensive where I live, but it might taste better, and I imagine it would be less liquidy. The internet also says that that leftover liquid makes great mexican rice, so it wouldn't need to be a waste if it does make the pizza better. I've really been enjoying your videos! I really hope to one day see a series on immitating New Haven pizza at home, I have so ideas, but have never had the real thing.
@Dcvmnaturalist
@Dcvmnaturalist 9 ай бұрын
Proud to see Jersey Fresh!
@anatomyG59
@anatomyG59 8 ай бұрын
I looked through all your amazon links, and perhaps I just missed it, but what Immersion Blender do you use?
@davidpatriot1082
@davidpatriot1082 6 ай бұрын
regarding letting the sauce come up to room temp after being refrigerated Im only saying this to give a heads up. Food safety inspectors will whine about that I do stuff like that all the time at home cooking for myself or family and friends but thats not usually allowed in food service They would claim the way to do is it to take it out of the fridge,put it in a pot, bring heat to desired temp fast rather than letting it sit out
@zepar221
@zepar221 5 ай бұрын
After growing different tomatoes and then growing San Marzano the last couple years, I concur with the other comments. They are my favorite tomato to make sauce out of, even if it is spaghetti sauce.
@rickf.9253
@rickf.9253 9 ай бұрын
Great content once again! As for the thinness of your uncooked sauce, check out the video on sauce for the home from chef Leo Spizzirri, he has a simple method to get rid of the excess water in the whole peeled canned tomatoes. It helped my sauce, you may find it helps yours too. Congrats on your pizza pop-up business!
@sandhill9313
@sandhill9313 9 ай бұрын
Thanks CA, AC is pretty pricey if you buy it on the net but just to say i tried I stopped into the shamrock Food Service outlet in Fort Collins and there it was, $8.09 for the #10 can which brings the cost in way below any of the 28 oz can alternatives I have at Krogers, Whole, Trader Joe's etc Nice call 😀
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking 9 ай бұрын
Good to hear! Yeah it’s nice how affordable it is as long as you don’t mind freezing whatever you’re not using right away. Let me know what you think of them once you give them a try!
@erikhartwig6366
@erikhartwig6366 9 ай бұрын
@11:13 aka greater surface area, greater evaporation. Great video too!
@maxa2826
@maxa2826 9 ай бұрын
Try adding some finely chopped fresh parsley to the sauce; I've seen that in a lot of midwest pizza spots.
@dpclerks09
@dpclerks09 6 ай бұрын
You're basically trying to concentrate the sugars through evaporation. You want more, so keep simmering, throw a cartouche on it, and aim for somewhere between sauce, and tomato jam. A saucy-jammy, situation, or just go with a sundried-tomato pesto/sauce? Then factor that with the salt/sugar/yeast/ferment, etc. on your dough, and adjust accordingly.
@myutub090571
@myutub090571 4 ай бұрын
If you're trying for something different, add some Hungarian paprika. It will enhance the flavor profile of your sauce nicely.
@KtotheL
@KtotheL 6 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for the info ! I'm definitely going to look for these tomatoes @cacciatore's when I go there next time.
@413TomaccoRoad
@413TomaccoRoad 3 ай бұрын
Try getting Cento crushed or whole peeled and puree with Cento tomato paste and spring or R.O. water. 👌
@d1943i
@d1943i 9 ай бұрын
would LOVE to see a vid comparing your top picks here with a variety of different DOP san marzano tomatoes. IME they are often a person's best bet as far as what is available locally and in stores people normally shop in, and id love to see how they stack up to the stanislaus tomatoes. DOP san marzano is often discussed as a "must have" for stuff like artisan pizza and pasta sauces, so im sure there are others out there wondering the same. im also very curious what the most respected brands of canned tomato used for pizza sauces in italy is.
@PSMProjectVids
@PSMProjectVids 6 ай бұрын
If u around Philly, check out Tetra's detroit style pizza. It's a cool find for us when we want that style.
@cb5528
@cb5528 9 ай бұрын
so is the final cook time on the sauce 30 minutes stated in the recipe or 60 minutes mentioned in the video
@jamesgretsch4894
@jamesgretsch4894 9 ай бұрын
I go back and forth between Alta Cucina and Tomato Magic. Both amazing.
@outnumberedbbq
@outnumberedbbq 7 ай бұрын
Do you feel like the basil in Alta cucina is strong. I don’t love basil
@littlepotato2741
@littlepotato2741 9 ай бұрын
Long cooked to concentrate the flavor and then adjust to the preferred acidity. You can use the classics of lime/lemon... or, if you want to add acidity without adding flavor, add some food grade acid powder. That way you can add the "brightness" back into the dish with zero additional flavors to interfere with the tomato taste. Edit: save time the old time way - make a huge batch, portion it out, and freeze most of it
@bigbro973
@bigbro973 9 ай бұрын
I can see your next video being about how a room temperature ferment often times beats a cold, long ferment
@Krunked
@Krunked 4 ай бұрын
hey man, i can probably find this in another video >> but what temp is your oven for these detroit style pizzas??
@RavinDave-theOriginal
@RavinDave-theOriginal 8 ай бұрын
The real secret is [drumroll] anchovy. Yeah, lotsa people have an immediate knee-jerk dislike of'em, but that's more mental than anything. There's a reason they're listed in the ingredients of virtually all popular commercial sauces. They provide a perfect note of umami. Just don't get carried away.
@3DThrills
@3DThrills 5 ай бұрын
They say that tomatoes are the worst canned food to buy because of their acidity. It leaches the harmful chemicals out of the BPA plastic that lines most tin cans. But don't lose hope because some manufacturers have switched to things like epoxy as a can lining.
@DJSpecialSauce
@DJSpecialSauce 4 ай бұрын
WOAHHH. Charlie, just hit me you were in Cleveland, me home! Love your vids - and EYUP, Gallucci's is my GO-TO! Ever watch Vito videos? That guy is pretty much a legend, bro. But you prob already knew that.
@chrisdonnell2575
@chrisdonnell2575 6 ай бұрын
I'd LOVE to know if you've tried using pressure cooker to cook sauce? This lets the water evaporate but takes 1/3 to 1/4th the time! I'd love to start making my own sauce but don't want to spend an hour.
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