The Plane That Couldn't Take Any More Passengers - UTA Flight 141

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8 ай бұрын

This is one of the hardest takeoffs that was ever tried on a Boeing 727. Registration 3X-GDO. UTA Flight 141 was a scheduled international passenger flight operated by Guinean regional airline Union des Transports Africains de Guinée, flying from Conakry to Dubai.

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@usmale49
@usmale49 5 ай бұрын
Their first clue should have been the passengers that were standing. Guess the executives orders were more important than a safe flight! Absolutely horrific. Great video...thank you!!
@NCLUSA
@NCLUSA 4 ай бұрын
Well at least there were no people hanging on the outside ): ?
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 4 ай бұрын
It was a 727 with a 747 load.
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 4 ай бұрын
@@usmale49 totally unnecessary. Notice the airlines went out of business the day after.
@Zickcermacity
@Zickcermacity 3 ай бұрын
usmale: A Titanic of the air of sorts, where the pressures of an Ismay dictated operations, not the common sense of the cockpit.
@ValleyProud916
@ValleyProud916 8 ай бұрын
So the co-pilot, the only one who had any sense was the only one of the crew to die. That's ironic
@Milesco
@Milesco 3 ай бұрын
Seems like that's how the universe works. Or as is often said, "Life isn't fair." 😕
@joojoojeejee6058
@joojoojeejee6058 3 ай бұрын
He could have walked away.. Or DEMAND the weight to be measured. But obviously if they have the wrong manual in the cockpit, they could be overweight even if calculations say they aren't.
@BestEachDay
@BestEachDay 4 ай бұрын
That's insanity. What idiocy. No controls anywhere. People being boarded with no seat assignments. Luggage not weighed. That's just unbelievable.
@Dilley_G45
@Dilley_G45 4 ай бұрын
At concerts and sports at least you get discount for standing area
@jdaniel3068
@jdaniel3068 3 ай бұрын
The African aviation way! It would still be occurring all across the continent if they cld get away with it. Some likely still do. There are only a couple of airlines I would agree to board in that part of the world.
@richardshiggins704
@richardshiggins704 4 ай бұрын
Excellent graphics . The B727 was a very elegant aircraft . Once again Africa at it's best . Total chaos and lack of discipline .
@glenrosarian2352
@glenrosarian2352 4 ай бұрын
Yes and they said it was a 727-223, meaning it used to be one of American's 727's. I might have even flown on it a few times. So sad to see a plane you love end up like this.
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 4 ай бұрын
Africa isn't that bad when it comes to aviation..However, no way would I board a plane in Indonesia.
@jrt2792
@jrt2792 4 ай бұрын
Africa actually has good airlines, except for Nigeria who has Air Peace which is..... chaotic...
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 4 ай бұрын
@@jrt2792Air Peace? No thanks. I'll get there by elephant.
@TR6Telos
@TR6Telos 3 ай бұрын
The Africans will never get to the moon.
@jonmcfarmer6954
@jonmcfarmer6954 4 ай бұрын
Taking off without knowing: How many passengers, passengers STANDING with no seats, no weight on cargo AND its distribution! How on earth can a so expierenced captain do that? I am speechless!! 🙄
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 4 ай бұрын
he didn't see anyone hanging off the roof outside so he thought he was safe.
@jdaniel3068
@jdaniel3068 3 ай бұрын
General low IQ.
@davidmccann9811
@davidmccann9811 4 ай бұрын
An airline being run by lunatics. The pilot even said they could end up in the sea, but he still decided to give it a go none the less.
@ramblingrob4693
@ramblingrob4693 4 ай бұрын
He was a genius
@williamlouie569
@williamlouie569 3 ай бұрын
The co-pilot called it. He told the executive that resulting take off will end in the water!
@hunting69doehle62
@hunting69doehle62 3 ай бұрын
To be fair, taking off without knowing your exact weight is not exclusively a third world problem. Just one year prior to this, Air Midwest Flight 5481 crashed in Charlotte, North Carolina, because they underestimated the weight of the passengers and luggage. The NTSB report recommended to use actual weights instead of estimates in the future - the report was published on Feb 26, 2004, just 2 months after the UTA accident; but I am not sure if it would have made a difference, had the report come out earlier. Looks like at UTA they did not care much about safe procedures anyway.
@RaptorFromWeegee
@RaptorFromWeegee 3 ай бұрын
did they have people standing?! Were they at least trying to keep track of the weight? And situate cargo for a proper center of gravity?
@Milesco
@Milesco 3 ай бұрын
It must be noted that the Air Midwest flight had two separate problems. Yes, it was overweight, due to reliance on outdated average passenger weights from the 1930s (I'm not kidding), but in addition, the elevator controls had recently been serviced improperly, resulting in a significantly decreased range of motion for the elevator. If the elevator had been able to be fully deflected, the plane would have stayed in the air. And as Raptor pointed out, did the Air Midwest flight have extra passengers standing in the aisles?
@bigsby211
@bigsby211 3 ай бұрын
Even though they still decided to go ahead with the flight despite of all the craziness that was going on before they started to taxi during the take off run they should have aborted the take off before reaching V2 but guess the executives were in command and not the captain.
@blancabulgrin5560
@blancabulgrin5560 4 ай бұрын
Full plane with people standing?It sounds more like a bus in 3rd.world country ,then an airplane.Did this total include the chickens?
@glenrosarian2352
@glenrosarian2352 4 ай бұрын
No chickens, but a whole load of cattle! No disrespect meant to the passengers.
@telecomgear
@telecomgear 3 ай бұрын
Lol
@ronduncan9527
@ronduncan9527 3 ай бұрын
This would only happen in Africa. No passenger manifest and no load numbers? The captain should’ve known better. He should’ve requested all of that or not flown. Could you imagine the passenger standing? They went flying!
@rodolfoayalajr.8589
@rodolfoayalajr.8589 4 ай бұрын
How can a Capitán 👨‍✈️take off with passengers standing. Rip. Great recreation friend. Amen 🙏.
@offyotto
@offyotto 8 ай бұрын
amazing video!
@JEHOVYIREH
@JEHOVYIREH 8 ай бұрын
Excelentes reconstrucción capi Mauri el capi dé capi en la aviación mundial gracias saludos cordiales Cincinnati Ohio bendiciones 🙏🙌✈️🎉
@guinnog2
@guinnog2 4 ай бұрын
Great video.
@ImperialDiecast
@ImperialDiecast 3 ай бұрын
Passengers standing in an aircraft which is still cleared to takeoff. Just Benin things.
@maxinefreeman8858
@maxinefreeman8858 3 ай бұрын
I would get off a plane if I was standing or seen others.
@glenrosarian2352
@glenrosarian2352 4 ай бұрын
I just cannot understand why (money, the bottom line I know) executives put on-time performance and efficiency ahead of passenger safety. I think most of the passengers would have preferred them to delay the flight and fix the problems rather than hurry up and take-off.
@jameshoopes6467
@jameshoopes6467 4 ай бұрын
Aircraft are not standing room only transportation. You’re welcome. My name is captain obvious and I’ll be your pilot on this flight. 😊
@mikeoittinen5623
@mikeoittinen5623 3 ай бұрын
Ive been on 3rd world busses with no seating for all, but an airplane?! Jeepneys, too, you hang on the outside, lol. Philippine Rabbit was the bus line.
@julosx
@julosx 3 ай бұрын
UTA used to be a French company (Union des Transports Aériens) but this one just copied the name and the logo after the demise of the first UTA, the real one. By the way, this 727 was formerly an American Airlines one (727-223).
@juliusnepos6013
@juliusnepos6013 4 ай бұрын
The deadliest air crash to occur on December 25
@RindaJane
@RindaJane 5 ай бұрын
And the executives live.. Imagine that. At least they lost their freedom 😮
@jeanneewaseck6635
@jeanneewaseck6635 4 ай бұрын
Did, in fact, anyone actually serve time? I ask this b/c it notes "severe injuries".
@JOHSONH
@JOHSONH 8 ай бұрын
Lo mejor de lo mejor en KZbin capi mau saludos cordiales desde oklahoma bendiciones 🎉✈️🙏🙌
@Siren113Studios
@Siren113Studios 8 ай бұрын
what flight sim is this?
@user-nx8ii4ef7f
@user-nx8ii4ef7f 3 ай бұрын
Proof that corruption isn't always clever!
@stephengrimmer35
@stephengrimmer35 3 ай бұрын
I've been on several overloaded chaotic flights like this in Africa, or more specifically, being on someone else's time and money, I've gotten up and walked off. A TAAG 737 Dundo-Luanda, an AN32 Conakry-Lungi, and a Let410 Hastings to Yengema come to mind.
@flyingtigerline
@flyingtigerline 5 ай бұрын
Very nicely done.
@MD-tv5fp
@MD-tv5fp 3 ай бұрын
The UTA logo in the graphics is the same as the French airline, which was operating as far back as the 1960's and was later merged into another. The livery is also an old Air France stripe. Only a three-year operation?
@julosx
@julosx 3 ай бұрын
It's quite not the same UTA than the original French one. This one just took over the name and the logo to make it look better.
@brucebeen5036
@brucebeen5036 4 ай бұрын
Simple weight and balance
@paulw4310
@paulw4310 5 күн бұрын
Wow...what a cluster of an operation that had no business carrying passengers...or anything else for that matter. Sadly the FO perished; the only one in the cockpit with any semblance of sense...along with a lot of others. Both sad and infuriating. Airliners need to be flown by the numbers...not slipshod guesses.
@LouSmorals2066
@LouSmorals2066 3 ай бұрын
I just cannot understand how anyone with sufficient intelligence to pass their commercial pilot's licence, can then show such utter disregard for the most basic of "red light" situations. I know had I been any one of those 3 pilots, with idiot company executives behind me or not... instant resignation and I'd walk off the plane and down them steps before that door had closed !
@jochenfrohlich1976
@jochenfrohlich1976 3 ай бұрын
Union des Transports Africains de Guinée!
@england902
@england902 4 ай бұрын
Typical executives. Know sod all
@user-jb6hn1db8x
@user-jb6hn1db8x 4 ай бұрын
Sadly, in a lot of activities the executives not only lack institutional knowledge but despise those who have it. They regard this as a virtue.
@ellischernoff8603
@ellischernoff8603 6 ай бұрын
A rotation to 3 degrees will not result in a liftoff in a 727.
@MPCFlights
@MPCFlights 6 ай бұрын
Their bet didn't pay off unfortunately
@MeaHeaR
@MeaHeaR 4 ай бұрын
Yes u Korrekt, itt shood bees 25 Degree or Moore for highéf Łifts
@suzannerickles6169
@suzannerickles6169 4 ай бұрын
I can remember in 1960s in either New York or Cleveland a plane with too many passengers that had to be emptied and refilled to make certain seats for all. Never should have been done
@tariksiddiki1404
@tariksiddiki1404 3 ай бұрын
15 UN Military Observers from Bangladesh also died in this tragic incident who were on their way to Bangladesh for leave.
@russcudney1469
@russcudney1469 4 ай бұрын
Profits first
@eyestoenvy
@eyestoenvy 4 ай бұрын
"SPIRIT" existed way back then? An d 727's too?
@Technoriety
@Technoriety 4 ай бұрын
Is that the correct airplane livery? My understanding is there was a French airline called UTA, which ceased operations in around 1992, with its assets acquired by Air France. Then there was a different airline based in Guinea, that also had the name UTA, which operated in the early 2000s, and is the one that crashed into the Bight Of Benin.
@juliusnepos6013
@juliusnepos6013 4 ай бұрын
It seems to be UTAGE
@julosx
@julosx 3 ай бұрын
The real UTA closed down at the end of 1990. Its assets indeed end up in Air France. I noticed this company copied both the name and the original logo of the French UTA. For the record, the actual UTA never used the 727. If they had purchased one, it would have been a 727-2B3.
@Technoriety
@Technoriety 3 ай бұрын
@@julosx Do you know of any real photographs (not computer 3D renderings) of the Guinea UTA using the French livery?
@jamesx4952
@jamesx4952 3 ай бұрын
What’s the music at 8:50
@lilibethdoherty295
@lilibethdoherty295 4 ай бұрын
Comedy of Errors, Tragedy for the Passengers.
@bunglejoy3645
@bunglejoy3645 28 күн бұрын
Isn't it illegal to have people stood its not a bus or a train regardless of executives onboard he dhould have gone back to the stand
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 4 ай бұрын
The real problem started early..a pilot who had no idea what weight he was carrying and of course, also the CG.
@michaelclarkson2218
@michaelclarkson2218 4 ай бұрын
I've just been reading up on the french airline UTA's history and I can't find any mention of UTA flight 141 and this particular accident. Furthermore there is no mention that they ever had a Boeing 727 in their fleet. They did have one 737 in their fleet. Unless perhaps there was more than one airline called UTA. ? Please correct me if I'm wrong. As for passengers standing with no seats I wouldn't have thought that was allowed.
@juliusnepos6013
@juliusnepos6013 4 ай бұрын
This is a different airline, another complete name that showed up for this particular operator is UTAGE
@michaelclarkson2218
@michaelclarkson2218 4 ай бұрын
@@juliusnepos6013Thanks for putting me right on this. It was just that the livery on the the tail was identical to the french airline and I got confused. Interesting video by the way. I've seen one or two videos where the aircraft actually lifted off right at the end of the runway due to overloading. One was an overloaded cargo plane which almost took a fence with it.🙂 Scary stuff.
@julosx
@julosx 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelclarkson2218 The original (French) UTA never had even a single 727. They used only 737s and 747s when it comes to Boeing.
@hj8272
@hj8272 4 ай бұрын
What sane person could board this 'plane'? Flying in that region is worse than russian roulette.
@cogitoergospud1
@cogitoergospud1 4 ай бұрын
Like a clown car at the circus.
@mikeoittinen5623
@mikeoittinen5623 3 ай бұрын
Greed, fraud, scalping, etc. and some 🐜 ants behaving as cargo led to this crash.
@timothywilliams1359
@timothywilliams1359 3 ай бұрын
African aviation is to be avoided, unless you love rolling the dice.
@julosx
@julosx 3 ай бұрын
They did much better starting in the 2010s. I'd say South America is the continent that has the most efforts to make for improvement..
@carel20081
@carel20081 3 ай бұрын
What do you aspect; it is Africa...
@ellischernoff8603
@ellischernoff8603 6 ай бұрын
No they could not each have 200 kg of luggage. That would be 440 lbs each!
@MPCFlights
@MPCFlights 6 ай бұрын
Not 200 but 20.
@paolobovio6920
@paolobovio6920 6 ай бұрын
What happens if u fly at 25th December
@richardshiggins704
@richardshiggins704 4 ай бұрын
You go straight to Heaven , no purgatory , pearly gates wide open .
@BomboSurvivalKnife
@BomboSurvivalKnife 2 ай бұрын
I think uta airlines was old or new cause the 727 was crashed climb but not the kilograms, so this plane crashed rest in peace but i dont have been this airline. 7:28
@ronduncan9527
@ronduncan9527 3 ай бұрын
You could’ve put Aerosucre on the side!
@sararet5
@sararet5 2 ай бұрын
Hope they learned this BIG lesson. KNOWING DA RESPECTABLE WEIGHT + da model of da plane is being used.....😢
@paulboulter7823
@paulboulter7823 4 ай бұрын
DXB
@dusseau13
@dusseau13 4 ай бұрын
I don't care if Elon Musk just bought an airline, the Captain and First Officer have the last word on the flight; not some pencil pusher, or in Elon's case, geek. Switching operating manuals is criminal, I hope.
@cremebrulee4759
@cremebrulee4759 4 ай бұрын
In theory, that is true, but the pilots know that refusing to take off will probably cost them their job. It has certainly happened.
@JohnShields-xx1yk
@JohnShields-xx1yk 3 күн бұрын
Hey, how many people's we got? Duh, idk, okay, weee good, let's try and fly. Thank God I don't fly
@heidithompson6895
@heidithompson6895 4 ай бұрын
I wish there was narrating
@Dilley_G45
@Dilley_G45 4 ай бұрын
A 727 lost? What a shame
@ramblingrob4693
@ramblingrob4693 4 ай бұрын
I liked an been on one, better than DC9 an 737
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 4 ай бұрын
@@ramblingrob4693I like the 727 best of the mid-size jets. The only jumbo I've been on was the Lockheed L-1011. Nice plane.
@allen480
@allen480 3 ай бұрын
Note to self: Never, never fly into or out of a third world country.
@MRPhoto_Digital
@MRPhoto_Digital 3 ай бұрын
Sure because there were never any crashes outside the “3rd world”
@michelscotto3900
@michelscotto3900 3 ай бұрын
a plane with former air france colors on the fuselage and a former name of union des transports Aériens transformed in union des transports africains : DISGUSTING 🤬🤬 RIP TO THE FATALITIES 😢😢
@julosx
@julosx 3 ай бұрын
This company name was pretty much a steal.
@GrantJohnston-dr9rt
@GrantJohnston-dr9rt 5 ай бұрын
The UTA employees now work for Boeing!
@malcolmwhite6588
@malcolmwhite6588 5 ай бұрын
Designing door securing fasteners
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 4 ай бұрын
actually, Spirit Airlines
@PC-Phobic-Jean-Rene
@PC-Phobic-Jean-Rene 2 ай бұрын
_Tragic._ ---- Good the airlines disappeared , as its abominable service _caused so many lives to cease to exist._ 🪦 May they all _Rest in Peace,_ 🥀🕯 until the resurrection from _"sleep"._ The Maker will awaken them from the earthen deep. ☀
@AndrewGrey22
@AndrewGrey22 4 ай бұрын
Why I don't fly non-US airlines.
@MRPhoto_Digital
@MRPhoto_Digital 3 ай бұрын
Dozens of crashes of us airlines planes over the years pal
@desdicadoric
@desdicadoric 3 ай бұрын
Africans
@30yearsfuelingbigjets
@30yearsfuelingbigjets 3 ай бұрын
I worked for Menzies aviation refueling jets......and they SUCK!
@NCLUSA
@NCLUSA 4 ай бұрын
And when I tell people that flying is not safe, they tell me I'm crazy. The idiot pilot in this case is a complete fool for taking off under those conditions.
@darrylrarmstrong
@darrylrarmstrong 4 ай бұрын
Flying is very safe if all the rules are followed. In this case there were no rules.
@NCLUSA
@NCLUSA 4 ай бұрын
So you follow all the rules, then that one little bird comes out of no-where and BAMB!!!!, you just lost your engine ) : @@darrylrarmstrong
@cremebrulee4759
@cremebrulee4759 4 ай бұрын
​@@NCLUSA losing one engine does not mean that you will crash. These planes can fly with one engine. Commerce aviation is really very safe, but like everything else, it is not perfect.
@NCLUSA
@NCLUSA 4 ай бұрын
Ok, two birds, there you lost both of your engines, ( : @@cremebrulee4759
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 4 ай бұрын
The Three Stooges could have managed this flight much better. Commercial aviation is in fact very safe.
@creepingbert
@creepingbert 4 ай бұрын
Menzies Aviation...I imagine some pretty cranky flight attendants every 28 days or so...
@sdfft820
@sdfft820 4 ай бұрын
Don’t fly third world airlines.
@user-ex4si2md6r
@user-ex4si2md6r 8 ай бұрын
Fake GCI
@heidithompson6895
@heidithompson6895 4 ай бұрын
That’s why the channel is called Flight Recreations
@user-ex4si2md6r
@user-ex4si2md6r 4 ай бұрын
@@heidithompson6895 evidently so
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