The Planemate Method To Shallow The Downswing

The Planemate Method To Shallow The Downswing
You can find the Tour Striker Planemate here: www.tourstriker.com/product/t...
Thank you to Martin Chuck and the Tour Striker team for hosting us at their perfect practice range at the Raven Golf Club in Phoenix, AZ - the home of Martin's Tour Striker Golf Academy. You can learn more about Martin's Golf Schools and his catalog of fantastic training aids at www.tourstriker.com.
It’s the training aid that’s been the talk of the golf world since it was introduced. It also won the award for Best New Training Aid at the 2020 PGA Merchandise show. In this video Martin Chuck is showing us how we can use his revolutionary Tour Striker Planemate to train in how to shallow your downswing and shares a few of its other applications as well. (Including how Rory McIlroy uses it!)
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[@curtvass6236]

Bought my planemate a month or so ago and it's amazing. Shout out to Eric and Martin for helping me with my game!

[@CogornoGolf]

Love to hear that, Curt! Martin and all his tools are awesome!

[@amichaels-v3]

What an amazing combination of talented coaches. Chuck + Cogorno, that would be a great clinic!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks Aaron!!

[@williaki37]

I feel like I really needed to watch this video. I think I was going down a rabbit hole of swing "fixes". This really helped bring me right back to how I started the season.

[@CogornoGolf]

Love it, Kirk!

[@Oswood1010]

Absolute fantastic Training aid. I got mine two month ago and it cann 100% recommend it. My wedge Consistency is really through the roof since i started using it.

[@CogornoGolf]

Love it Florian! I think consistent use of the Planemate would help A TON of golfers!

[@GRAMDAVNO1]

This looks like it could really help me, I've changed my swing, but have struggled to transition the club, can't wait for my planemate to arrive so I can get cracking.

[@xiangchen2493]

Two of my favorite coaches, great video guys!

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate it my friend!

[@davidtheobald502]

Have been following Martin for years. Both the Raven and The Legacy across the street are super fun and playable courses!

[@CogornoGolf]

He's a great guy and those facilities are awesome! Cool spot to hang out if you're into golf!!

[@Murf1802]

Thank you guys, couldn't ask for two better Golf minds, Eric always has the student in mind, stressing feels and filming our swing for feedback! Awesome!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks so much, Kevin! :)

[@daleinnis3161]

Two of my favorites together. Nice to see.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Dale!

[@mrhyde1314]

Awesome video again. I really enjoy Martin he seems really straight talking and talks alot of sense.

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate it! He does....same in person! Great guy, great coach!

[@Ron28]

My first introduction to the golf swing was George Knudson's book The Natural Golf Swing (with Lorne Rubinstein). That was 30 years ago and I still read sections of the book. Very good video. Thanks.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Ronald! Martin speaks very highly of Mr. Knudson. I will need to go back and look/watch some more!

[@tonystopar7329]

Definitely a big fan of Martin and of course you as well Eric!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Tony! Martin is a great guy and awesome coach!

[@joekruper8333]

Absolutely love my PlaneMate!!

[@CogornoGolf]

Love that, Joe!

[@jayschwarz4365]

Really interesting video Eric!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Jay!!

[@perrysmith776]

Got mine and it’s hard work with results!

[@CogornoGolf]

Yessir! What I like about it is the instant feedback. As you already know there is nothing that is going to happen overnight.....I think most of us are willing to put the work in.....we just want to make sure we get the results at the end of that work. These type of feedback tools help make sure that happens!

[@dennis1119]

Great chemistry between you guys on this video! When you don't feel the need to summarize or reframe, you know the other guy speaking must be really good!

[@CogornoGolf]

I really was only there for the pretty face....as you mention....Martin certainly doesnt need any help :)

[@dennis1119]

Eric Cogorno Golf so it seems like the value of the planemate is in creating some “structure” in the arms, i.e. some extension. Seems like i can get same benefit from my Gravity Golf TPro straps which i already own and cost half of the planemate??

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Dennis! I have never used that so I can't say. I CAN say I really liked the way the Planemate worked for ME and what I have seen in terms of it helping others.

[@steves6511]

Great video!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Steve!

[@christophermagnuson1270]

Awesome video. Well done by you and Mary. And Martin of course, dropping George Knudson references

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, man!!

[@tourstriker]

I owe a lot to GK, so I always give him props! I miss him.

[@Concordeagle]

Saw this training aid on Aug 2021 Golf Magazine but wasn't really sure if I should buy it until I saw your video, thanks!

[@CogornoGolf]

:) Our pleasure!

[@sirtogii5216]

"He's fairly solid..." :-D I could definitely use this for both wedges and shallowing

[@CogornoGolf]

:) I really liked the instant feedback it provided me!

[@shrimboy7492]

Followed the initial take away as he showed but I skipped the umbrella part and transition into relax position and rotate. Works for me.

[@CogornoGolf]

Excellent!

[@pditty112]

One of things I found out when using mine is that my right hand was not solidly on the club so I wasn't able resist the tension on the band in the back swing well. Now that my right hand is solidly on the club I have way more control and can crush the ball.

[@CogornoGolf]

Love it! A good tool provides endless potential for feedback! Something little like that that could make a HUGE difference!

[@ihop04]

I saw the vid of you collaborating with Sam Guilden Square to square swing. Would this trainer work with that concept?

[@CogornoGolf]

Yes it can!

[@paulkraus4226]

Eric, loved your video about the downswing where you showed the pros and pointed out that the club head goes behind them (shallows) and away from the target. Would the tension in the band inhibit the 'away from' move when using the Planemate? I'm wondering if you feel a change in tension when doing this. Recovering from a knee replacement so haven't been able to use mine yet. Thanks for the videos.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Paul! The "relax" part from the top with the planet mate would help get the club going behind you! Really good for that!

[@paulkraus4226]

@@CogornoGolf Hey Eric, yes I could see that. Just wondered if it could inhibit the club moving away from the target. On reflection I guess it's a question of getting the tension right.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Paul! I do not think it would inhibit that.....nope.

[@MJP1966USA]

I finally got a hold of Planemate. Have been trying the 7-Day Protocol, but what I am finding is lower back pain on left side (I am right handed golfer). It might be because I this thing is turning me more than I did before. Hopefully it is temporary while my muscles get used to it. Anyone else have this issue?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey! Thanks for the message. I have not heard that specific feedback. Of course I would have to see your swing on video and know more to be able to offer any potential advice. I hope you feel better. Maybe reach out to Martin and David who created in and they may be able to help with how to best use it!

[@mattlaw2993]

Sold out on the website, btw what is the brand of cap you are wearing?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hole 19! Love them!

[@tourstriker]

Sorry Matt, we have had a hard time keeping them in stock.

[@landonvanhorn592]

Eric- i have a question regarding this. How important is backswing position regarding this, or is it just a downswing thing? For example- my swing i tend to have too much forearm rotation on the backswing-as a result the shaft plane is well outside the ball. On the downswing it appears i have “steepened” the shaft but my shaft plane is st or slighly outside the ball. Should i just work on the backswing portion of this- and will that make much if a difference? Thanks

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Landon! 1. So the backswing for sure matters. At various degrees depending on what you do and how severe. 2. 99% of people who go back flat at you mention will come down steeper......because you have too as reaction. 3. its OK if you come down steeper IF you went back flatter SO LONG as that steeper downswing is still "on plane" like a Rickie. 4. The more vertical the shaft on the backswing the better the odds of shallow.....not guarantee but best odds. 5. If you want to change that steepening downswing move (for whatever reason you decide) I would most certainly make the backswing more vertical I would do it with these: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIOyfHSCh5arqLc kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmjGqqGngsxngNk

[@jamesmccallum100]

Hey Eric. I'm going to assume that in addition to improving the shallowing on the downswing, the Planemate would also help improve impact position and rotation through the ball? Specifically, the dreaded early release/flip? Thanks!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thats correct!

[@jamesmccallum100]

@@CogornoGolf Ball/turf contact too. Kinda does everything!

[@razor7241]

One of my big “issues” in my golf swing is crossing the line at the top of my swing! Would the Planemate help cure this problem? Thanks.

[@CogornoGolf]

Definitely could... Depends on WHY you are crossing the line... Could be your wrist angles, could be trail shoulder too internally rotated, could be too much body rotation, etc This drill with stick on club and point it outside ball line should help....you need to use video and do this consistently and slowly for 3-6 months and it will fix kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXPNcnuEbtOoaKM kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJ21p3hrqZp6gpI

[@aq7705]

The 2 best coaches on KZbin!

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate it! Martin is great!!

[@tourstriker]

Thanks Al Q.

[@ayjaykay7085]

Shopping Channel on steroids. I love it! 😁

[@CogornoGolf]

:)

[@stryker2828]

How best to fit the “relax” part in a full swing?

[@CogornoGolf]

I mean ideally reps with the planemate.....do you have one?

[@shrimboy7492]

The relax part is simply allowing the club head to drop behind u. Feels like the entire club is horizontal to the ground. The key is to keep the club head point straight in the opposite direction behind u. But the front shoulder should be lower to the ground then lift it upward to initiate the rotation.

[@ericbambridge6769]

Would this work well as a companion for working with the Hanger training aid?

[@CogornoGolf]

Yes

[@ericbambridge6769]

I have been using the Hanger for 3 months almost daily , it’s been a big help. Love your reviews , lessons and channel. You really offer some great content.

[@ericbambridge6769]

I have been using The Hanger for 3 months now almost daily, it’s been a big help. Love your reviews , lesson and channel you really offer some great content.

[@CogornoGolf]

Smart man!

[@jonlauck3942]

I've been using the planemate for about a month as well as the "twist away" backswing. Great for the irons. Huge difference in contact, compression and distance. Still struggling a little with the driver. My swing is now deep and much steeper. the longer club is more difficult to shallow. any suggestions?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Jon! Good to hear of the improvement with the irons....as for the driver....definitely have suggestions....but the reality is there are too many possible causes. Could be multiple reasons that are setup, backswing or transition related. Could be body stuff or club stuff....I would need to see a video of your swing to say for sure without making too many guesses. If you dont get it sorted check out www.cogornogolf.com so I can help or find a good coach to work with in person!

[@johnalbritton1311]

Have you been using the PlaneMate protocols that were developed? There is a 7 day protocol and Martin Chuck added a protocol for the Driver as well. Here is the link to the protocols. Good luck www.tourstriker.com/planemate/

[@michaeldonaldson8508]

Would it help a casting motion downswing

[@CogornoGolf]

It definitely could! Have to figure out WHY you are casting....are you just doing it OR is there anything going on earlier that is CAUSING it!

[@michaeldonaldson8508]

Eric Cogorno Golf all arms on downswing and hips don’t turn then at impact I’m in chicken wing position

[@CogornoGolf]

Gotcha....then learn to get that body working! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ29fKSMrtmlZrc

[@michaeldonaldson8508]

Eric Cogorno Golf thanks I’ll try it

[@stiwigabrielcourage7634]

I ordered the PlaneMate, the purchase was withdrawn from my account and when I did not receive the package, it contacted Tour Striker. They then said that I had be shipped and could not be delivered. I then contacted UPS to find out what happen, and because I live in a apartment they could not deliver it. UPS contacted Tour Striker/Amazon and asked for my contact information, e-mail, phone number and did not receive a response from Tour Striker. Tour Striker says that did not receive any request from UPS and wants me to pay another shipping fee, for them to re-ship the package. I guess that it I my fault for living in an apartment, and UPS not being able to leave the package at my door, since Tour Striker did not inform them of my email or phone number which I gave them when ordering the PlaneMate. I guess you should not buy the PlaneMate or any produkt from Tour Striker if you live in an apartment?

[@CogornoGolf]

Not sure-sorry to hear of that. I have had nothing but really positive experiences with Tour Striker so I'm assuming this in an anomaly. I hope you get it sorted my friend-they are good people from my experience.

[@scottbridwell9465]

I have seen you tell a lot of you students to narrow there feet how wide should your feet be?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Scott! For a stock starting point... 8 iron - straight line up from ankle bones around shoulder width Driver - straight line up from ankle bones just slightly outside shoulder width Wider as the clubs get longer, narrower as the clubs get shorter👍

[@salt5468]

that's what i want ㅋㅋㅋ

[@tensebeastgaming8527]

Late to this video, but why couldn’t you just take the club up on this shallower plane and bring it back down the same way? Seems unnecessarily complicated to have to shallow a swing properly with good timing

[@CogornoGolf]

You can... A lot of times when you go shallow back the club gets heavy....and your brain responds by steepening on way down to lighten it

[@tensebeastgaming8527]

@@CogornoGolf that makes sense intuitively, but then why doesn't the brain want to retain that steeper path on the downswing if it wants to keep the club 'light'? I'd likely guess because if you retained the steeper path you'd almost miss the ball entirely, meaning you are relying on timing, body awareness, and some level of athleticism in order to find the proper plane on the way down. You can certainly make a longer motion going steeper on the backswing (speed) but it forces timing on the downswing. I'd argue neither motion is particularly intuitive and may come down more to player preference. I'd always naturally had a shallow backswing with my arm directly perpendicular to my spine. Had many pros try to get me steeper on the backswing only to realize later that my key to consistency was to stop fighting my natural motion. Thanks for the comment and maybe you can provide another insight I may be missing!? Cheers

[@pohoresky]

Gimmicky approach to learning the golf swing? Hmm. Maybe for some. What about understanding basic fundamentals and why they are importabt as an aproach to learning.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for your feedback, Harold! I think these kind of training aid provide what we all need....which is feedback! Some will like it...others won't.....like anything else :) I'm on the "like it" side!

[@doughoad3610]

While I agree with shallowing this looks gimmicky and will screw more people up than actually help.

[@tourstriker]

@@doughoad3610 I appreciate your opinion, but that's not what the owners are saying. Sorry. Trust me, I'm amazed with the customer feedback. Way better than we expected. The good news: nobody is making you buy one. Take care.

[@forrestyoung2177]

Say “right” one. more. time.

[@CogornoGolf]

Lol

[@maeu59]

Seems like a decent product but like every thing else related to golf training it’s way over priced. But if people are willing to pay good for you Martin.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@tourstriker]

Thanks Maeu. My iPhone is way overpriced, too.

[@maeu59]

Tour Striker you can say that again.

[@gunnarjinx]

Teaching people to MAKE this move happen with their hands is simply WRONG ... the natural shallow happens when a golfer gets his hips away earlier and quicker than the average golfer who starts with his hands more often on the same track as in the back swing. Scary how many golfers are getting worse at the game trying to manipulate their hands at the top or wrists when there is no need for it. Get the body out of the way WHILE finishing ur back swing and the shallow part will happen naturally!!!!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the feedback, Gunnar!