GOLF: How To Start The Downswing - Upper Body

[@MrShank12u]

This series with Milo is PURE GOLD!!!!! I just felt my handicap fall from 5 to a 4 at the end of this video!!!

[@CogornoGolf]

Love to hear that---appreciate it! We had good fun creating these videos!

[@markhimpoo4972]

That covers so much , transition, getting into slot, balance, clearing hip, on plane.....brilliant lesson, thank you. All the material you two do together are sensational!!!!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Mark! Milo is great! Hope to link up again sometime in the future!

[@dennis1119]

Really good job of breaking down a complicated move. What I like about Milo's action is how he extends his whole right side at the top. Creates the centered Pivot and makes it natural to 'fall' on his left side and keep lead shldr low. From there, the tricky move is right sidebend 'crunch' to re-center. I've found that if I don't get the Rt side extension at top, the things that follow don't happen as naturally. You guys did a great jobexplaining--thanks!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Dennis Zimmerman 🙏

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Dennis! Milo swings it pretty close to as good as it gets....and makes it look easy as all the greats do!

[@dennis1119]

Golfletics do I have the right take on the importance of that extended right side at top of bswing to making what follows more natural?

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Dennis Zimmerman sounds good to me

[@cliffmautner]

Eric, I just tried this today. Your "right shoulder closer to right hip" "feel" is excellent. It's the best swing thought to help find the slot. I suffer from early extension, and keeping the rt side bend helps a ton. I'm still hooking it a bit, but the compression is so much more consistent. Thank you. So often, instructors tell you to "find the slot" or "get the rt elbow closer to the hip". But your'e the first give me a "feel" of how to actually do it consistently.

[@CogornoGolf]

Love it, Cliff!

[@nickracine]

This video, and the others in this series with Milo are some of your best work! It really helps bring home some of George Gankas teachings, but in a more thorough and detailed video. No knock on George! It's just hard to get this kind of in depth explanation of the external rotation of the lead leg, side bends, etc, because his videos are just presented from a lesson he is giving to a student. With this video, and the others with Milo, I am hitting some of my best shots! Keep up the great work Eric and Milo!!!!

[@CogornoGolf]

Love to hear that, Nick! Keep it going! Appreciate the kind words!

[@Clubgolf545]

Excellent video. Specially for players like me who open up left side too early.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks! Hope this one helps!

[@wenbray6396]

Thanks Eric for the shout back as always. I live in ponte vedra beach ,fl. So not getting to Phoenix anytime soon to see milo, or Bethlehem to see you with all the craziness. Will try what you suggested.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hope it helps!

[@cubfan69kmz85]

Eric, it is crazy to think what exactly happens during the swing, downswing especially, in such a short period of time. The only way I learn this stuff initially is to go really slow as far as the quickness of the swing and living by the saying slow and steady wins the race. The info in these videos is pure gold(makes my head spin, but good nonetheless).

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate the kind words! Starting short and slow with immediate video feedback is key!

[@josephbarrett697]

Love how you and Milo simplify the movements in the golf swing. It makes it easily understandable when trying to implement it into my feel. Thanks

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Joseph! Milo is great!

[@chantaletremblay5206]

Merci! Votre démonstration est très claire! Je prends beaucoup de cours, mais c’est la première fois que je comprends le pivot. Maintenant, je dois pratiquer😉

[@MikeJones-ew8ul]

E Sizzle almost at 200 K 🎉 Hell yeah white boy 🍻 The whole hood is proud of ya kid and super appreciative of all the game you kick down 🤙🏾🏌️‍♂️⛳

[@bryanlina4724]

Need a course vlog with you and Milo, Eric! Really like the collaboration with the two of you.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Bryan! I don't know if I could show him outdriving me by 50 yards..... :)

[@bryanlina4724]

@@CogornoGolf Haha. I think you got him. I saw him 3 putt from 15 ft on his vlog. Just kidding, Milo!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Bryan Lina ha ha. 😂

[@MiloLinesGolf]

At some point I’m sure Eric and I will collaborate in some way again.

[@CogornoGolf]

Yes we will!

[@annecanty3623]

Thanks Eric & Milo, this seems to be a really useful tip .. maybe the missing link in what I’ve been trying to achieve. It’s given me something useful to work on.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Anne! Hope it helps!

[@casilatino]

I have been working on this downswing motion now for almost 3 months. I don't think anyone should expect to be able to do it quickly. For all those sliders of the pelvis (me included) that get stuck on the downswing and the hips stop rotating coming into impact, it is a very different move and it will take time for your body to adjust to it. Coming into impact with a short right arm is something my body has never been familiar with and I am now finally learning how to swing the club like it should be swung. Instead of sliding my pelvis, I am learning to get comfortable with first putting pressure on my left side (while regaining forward bend) then rotating immediately with no slide. I don't slide anymore and I see a different ball flight now.

[@CogornoGolf]

Definitely takes time! Stay on it!

[@markstone3175]

I like to feel my upper body faces more to the ground from the start of the top swing and keep it there and let go naturally works best for me. Thanks

[@CogornoGolf]

Love that!

[@markstone3175]

@@CogornoGolf How do we motivate ourselves with Golf Clubs closing now. Feel like they took our fun away and won't make any impact on reducing the virus

[@CogornoGolf]

Discipline yourself to practice at home 30 swings with video or training aid feedback 20 putts with start line gate 20 chips into bucket or landing zone Do this 4-5 times per week. Sometimes you just have to put your head down and get to work...

[@Rd-bi7vr]

Paddy Harrimgton’s how to use the pelvis was interesting . Posting here for Eric’s reference .

[@CogornoGolf]

He's been doing a great job with his videos!

[@Rd-bi7vr]

@CogornoGolf you are the best teacher on YT . Very easy to follow and understand and apply.

[@andreb4125]

I just wonder: after reflexing, bending the knees and going into impact, when is the point where you "push-up" with your legs? Or is there no active upwards force while hitting? Btw, thanks again for another great video

[@CogornoGolf]

It starts around club last parallel in downswing (p6) when the hands are just below hip high.

[@andreb4125]

@@CogornoGolf Thanks Eric!

[@13DiBartolomeo]

Great lesson Eric. Thx. Dom

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Dom!

[@davepatterson3132]

Jumping ahead a bit, I assume the upper body starts actively rotating shortly after transition. I know you want the body as open as possible at impact. I saw a video the other day suggesting that having open shoulders will lead to toe shots. I do have that tendency particularly with the shorter clubs. Your thoughts coach? Thanks as always.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Dave! "Jumping ahead a bit, I assume the upper body starts actively rotating shortly after transition." -Yes...but there are amounts.. Check this video out...see if this helps where I explain the specific: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i33cZJqHqtxrbrM

[@davepatterson3132]

Very helpful. Thanks Eric!

[@wenbray6396]

Great video Eric. I am a low handicap player but suffer inconsistencies with leaning toward the target at times with my upper body on downswing. When I try to right side bend on downswing I tend to just do that and get way under plane and left hip and shoulder go up instead of around. Any help how to get this move down correctly?

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Wen Bray watch our previous videos there are a few ideas there. I would recommend a little work with a good coach that can help you match up the movements. I know a couple 😉

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Wen! Yeah agreed with Milo above... 1. You need to learn to right side bent with left hip and shoulder staying lower. Thats really the key. The thing you are trying to do is correct (right side bend) you just need to learn to keep lead side lower. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oH-ZZYOdjM2Wl5o kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIvEfKmiaq-jhc0 (do the stick thorugh the belt in this drill...make the stick hit the other stick as low as possible. Start really slow) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqTUg2aVq6enr8U Some more that may help kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWqye2Nph9d2mbc kzbin.info/www/bejne/homqkIeibMh9bKc kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJ7PoJidm6dpfNk If you dont get it sorted and can go see Milo that would be best. If not check out www.cogornogolf.com so I can see your swing and we can sort it out!

[@Rd-bi7vr]

Right side bend could be achieved by right elbow tucking in?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey there! The trail side bend is going to come from the spine performing lateral flexion/"side bend" (not from the joints of the shoulders or arms) Hope this helps!

[@BanbanGB]

Hi there , very good content like always. Thank you mate. On another note Eric do you any drill or idea how can I stop having a sway specially with my head in order to not change my swing plane ? ( head going to the right )

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Alban! Just want to clarify... Are you saying that your head is moving AWAY from the target during the DOWNSWING?

[@BanbanGB]

Eric Cogorno Golf hi Eric , no this is during the backswing , I do have a bit of rotation but this is normal. My concern is during the backswing I have a small lateral deviation to the right. So 70 % of the case my head come back at the same position at the impact but some time it doesn’t. I work with some friends and coach to help me with this ( by having someone holding my head or just having a contact on my left side of my head ) who does help a lot but when I am by myself I can’t so I was wondering if you have any idea ? I hope it was clear enough xD thank you Eric

[@CogornoGolf]

I gotcha. Yeah rig something up so there is an object behind your right ear. Hit 20-30 balls with it 4-5 times per week kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6LYg5dvoruIsLs kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5zWk4KGZbeGeNk kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5-3Z42Lrd6Zfac

[@BanbanGB]

Eric Cogorno Golf I saw the videos and again this is very well explained so thank you again :) unfortunately I don’t understand what you mean when you say : rig something up there etc ( even google didn’t help ) Maybe because i am french :) . Didn’t you mean : putt something there ? I try to imagine how could I do it if it’s the case? Thanks Eric

[@richardwepsic9046]

Eric. Been watching videos for a while. A lot of information but difficulty to incorporate into my swing and best way to practice. If I sign up for your Facebook do you look at swings and give feedback on which drills are best as well as follow up on progress. I do have Live View

[@CogornoGolf]

Yessir! Thats how I can best help you. www.cogornogolf.com

[@adamfenty6465]

People cannot be getting better from watching this. Entertained perhaps.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the feedback, Adam!

[@carlosenriquelee3501]

Excelente video!!! Gracias.

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate it!!

[@thomash1292]

Great video as always. One question - when I try to squat and rotate, my arms comes to impact way to fast and my legs are still bent when I hit the ball (I don’t get the time needed to push my left leg into the ground). The result is therefore a very handsy release when I try this. Has anyone experienced the same or know what I can do to get the time needed to squat, rotate and push my left leg?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey, Thomas! Thanks for the message! Of course there is always a solution....BUT I would really have to see a video of your swing to say for sure what exactly is going on and how to fix. Check out www.cogornogolf.com if you don't get it sorted so I can see your swing and help!

[@thomash1292]

Eric Cogorno Golf Yes I am actually planning to join your site. Also - I found one of your previous videos which seems spot on for me: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaekf2lmbdCksJI

[@CogornoGolf]

Yes! That should be a good start....good find!

[@thomash1292]

​@@CogornoGolf Membership added and swing posted! :) Also - I noticed that if I manage to shallow my club on the downswing the timing (and contact) is much much better - so I think this may be one of the reasons my arms was out of sync.

[@terrywright1167]

GR8 3 SET W/MILO

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Terry! He's awesome!

[@gmlopes502]

When Milo gets to top of backswing his upper body looks to be leaned more forward towards the target than his lower body. I’ve always been afraid to make this move because i was under the impression it’s a “reverse pivot.” What is the difference between this (upper body forward passed lower) and the dreaded reverse pivot?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Gary! What is the difference between this (upper body forward passed lower) and the dreaded reverse pivot? 1. How much you do it 2. What you do from there to start down IF you stay centered with your pivot to start down and add right side bend to avoid going too far forward then you are OK. People who get in trouble from there from the top KEEP leaning toward target too much to start down so upper center gets too far ahead. Good lower body action to keep pelvis centered and enough right side bend are the answers to start downswing from there.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Eric Cogorno Golf I second your answer

[@gmlopes502]

Eric Cogorno Golf Thank you for clarifying that!

[@KevinORourke25]

Everytime I try that little squat move on the down swing I end up hitting it fat. Any fixes Eric?

[@MarkHaleyiDimension]

I'm not Eric but he mentioned it at 7:52 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJvVmYN4ibJpbbsm52s - the matching arms video kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpPPppZmjqiqoqc

[@CogornoGolf]

Make sure your trail ARM and WRIST are more bent and you are turning chest enough kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpPPppZmjqiqoqc

[@shanesoni4175]

Does this count for all the clubs in the bag? Driver and Wedges?

[@CogornoGolf]

Yes.... There will be some differences in motion between irons and driver.....we talk about that in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/invXqWCni7iajLc

[@shanesoni4175]

@@CogornoGolf thank you, I'll take a look.

[@BK-nh9gr]

Excellent

[@CogornoGolf]

Thank you!

[@mjb8274]

Lot going on in this video, maybe too much. Is belt buckle and chest down another way to think about maintaining spine angle, or are we literally trying to get even closer to the ground? If the latter, how does that happen...knee bend or spine tilt? Part 1 hard to follow. Part 2 re right side bend is super helpful though. When I tried right side bend it felt good, when I tried coming down without right side bend...classic OTT.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

MJB the best players are not just maintaining spine angle they compress into the ground both with their upper and lower bodies. Watch the previous video we did how to start the downswing lower body. And the why of all this is in this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJCxeqd9jdCXb6c

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the feedback, MJB. Sorry if its too much. "Is belt buckle and chest down another way to think about maintaining spine angle, or are we literally trying to get even closer to the ground? " -Same distance or closer " If the latter, how does that happen...knee bend or spine tilt? " -Knee bend and forward bend (chest down) Glad the RSB helped....key part of great swings!

[@supertenchung2413]

this is the most difficult parts of golf!

[@CogornoGolf]

Doesnt have to be!

[@aartvdmolen]

Great video series ! TIP: The hitting of balls goes so fast that you should actually film that in slo-mo to be even more informative, only in slo mo can we break up the movements that you explain during the video

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the kind words and the feedback, Aart!

[@casilatino]

Aart you can look at the normal swing in slow motion by stopping the video then using the keyboard keys COMMA and PERIOD. COMMA makes the frames go backwards and PERIOD makes the frames go forward frame by frame. Each touch of PERIOD moves the video forward frame by frame. I use it to look at and analyze swings in KZbin all the time, including Eric's swing.

[@ocat1979]

Right side bend explained much clearer than George Gankas. Love George and what he teaches but man he can be a confusing dude haha

[@seniorswing8441]

I can't not agree more with you!

[@CogornoGolf]

:)

[@Jdeneik]

Isn’t this move a result of prior moves? I think the better ball strikers probably don’t Consciously know they do this move.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

JDK K the best generally do most things correct by nature. For the rest of us we have to learn to move.

[@CogornoGolf]

I would say the same exact thing as Milo :)

[@adams5881]

Where’s the Malaska vids?

[@CogornoGolf]

Coming up!

[@guitar1950]

You can see who the northerner is by the clothes being worn! lol!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

6string - Dave for sure!

[@CogornoGolf]

:)

[@stevenolmstead]

As always, love your videos - but wondering about social distancing while you are doing them.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

stevenolmstead these were filmed in February before the COVID outbreak 😷

[@stevenolmstead]

@@MiloLinesGolf Gotcha - stay safe!

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Steve...yeah we are releasing the videos we filmed while on our trip!

[@stevenolmstead]

@@CogornoGolf Cool - be safe!

[@GolfRx]

First one to view

[@CogornoGolf]

:)