THE PLAYER'S PARADOX | DELTARUNE's single ending

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@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
SPOT THE HIDDEN RALSEI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@SullyTheLightnerd
@SullyTheLightnerd 9 ай бұрын
Wait is this a trick for the algorithm to increase watch time? I see you…
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
No, I cant find Ralsei@@SullyTheLightnerd
@SullyTheLightnerd
@SullyTheLightnerd 9 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. have you tried turning it off and on again?
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
is your fridge running?@@SullyTheLightnerd
@SullyTheLightnerd
@SullyTheLightnerd 9 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. no I ate it☹️
@Yuti640
@Yuti640 9 ай бұрын
Actually, Toby hasn’t hidden the rest of the Chapters, i found his hard drive in his backyard and have the rest of the game leaked, take that Toby
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Very lazy hiding spot
@KoolKloudz
@KoolKloudz 9 ай бұрын
He’s having a meeting this month in Japan about the game so there could be more content, if you want more info try contacting his old school friend Niko, they keep me update on what he does
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Is it kind of like a Santa tracker?​@@KoolKloudz
@KoolKloudz
@KoolKloudz 9 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. No, just an old school friend ordeal, know a few things and what’s going on at times, everything should be going well tho
@bitterman213
@bitterman213 9 ай бұрын
Personally, I really like the “one ending” idea because if the normal and weird route pattern continues, it will be really cool to see how they end up at the same spot. And it makes me think that whatever happens at the end will have an entirely contextual meaning/effect corresponding to the route. It’s a monkey’s paw promise, one ending could have totally different implications predicated on what happened before
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
My theory is about Kris rejecting the player's control regardless of how kind you try to be. In the weird route I certainly think Kris is going to reject the player's control as well. But like you said the context will ultimately be different.
@tearsofthekingdom9062
@tearsofthekingdom9062 8 ай бұрын
I like what happened in vrs. Fun gang, where in both the world was covered in darkness but in pacifist it is cuz Ralsie used pacify but in genocide you brought the roaring
@avandorhu-3389
@avandorhu-3389 9 ай бұрын
My personal idea is Gaster won't willingly give us the vessel, but we'll somehow find it discarded somewhere and Thats when we'll take over it as a sort of "act of rebellion"
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Could be the case, I was just speculating so both our ideas are equally plausible.
@avandorhu-3389
@avandorhu-3389 9 ай бұрын
Indeed it is
@TheSkyGuy77
@TheSkyGuy77 9 ай бұрын
Back when Undertale was new, I remember people coming to the conclusion that the player was bad by virtue of playing the game, even though Toby acknowledged that its a little hypocritical to create a game and then call someone horrible for wanting to play that game (back when he made the Earthbound Halloween hack). I don't think that the player is bad for playing. Its whomever edited the story to shove the player into Kris instead of the vessel.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Its very grey whether the player is actually innocent or not, but I'm certain Kris would at least currently blame the player for controlling them.
@CantusTropus
@CantusTropus 9 ай бұрын
This is all presuming that Kris isn't the Knight, though, and I think Kris Knight is likely.
@gabrote42
@gabrote42 9 ай бұрын
Spec Ops: The Line is a good example of that. Still, if Kris tracked what choices we made, and if they matched what they wanted to say themself (like bringing Susie to the carnival, or saying No after Smapton Neo) that could be a way of discriminating between "ha ha game go brrr" players and "Look dude, if there was an autopilot button I'd let you play but if I'm not playing your world is paused forever. Let's cooperate" players. But no such value exists yet
@mauro27279
@mauro27279 9 ай бұрын
I like to think the Player is neutral, ngl.
@TheSkyGuy77
@TheSkyGuy77 7 ай бұрын
@@mauro27279 Same, I just don't think we (the players) are bad in the story simply for playing the game.
@eladelkobi218
@eladelkobi218 9 ай бұрын
That coward gaster hides in the depths instead of coming face to face with us >:(
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
He's hiding in every Deltarune fan's collective closet.
@josephbulkin9222
@josephbulkin9222 7 ай бұрын
You know, looking this, you just have to wonder how the fuck Toby expected the average player to know about any of this.
@embrefrosste6044
@embrefrosste6044 9 ай бұрын
That reminds me of a theory that I came up with because of one of Vivat Veritas’s videos. Based on thematic parallels with Undertale, my idea was that we would probably get to leave Kris alone and take over the Vessel after a full mercy ending, and that we would somehow destroy the Vessel permanently if we ever played the weird route to completion (ruining any future mercy endings, just like completing an obliteration route in undertale).
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I probably should have mentioned the weird route. Thats a good prediction.
@gabrote42
@gabrote42 9 ай бұрын
I personally think that it's gonna be a Fire Emblem situation, where the text or preceding scenes describing fates of characters will differ completely, but I also want values for Communicating with Kris. That if we reload back and pick the choices that Kris wanted to pick, they would at some point greet their teeth and start cooperating with us. Highlighting choices they want, telling us when to let them do something, stuff like that. That could lead to a way less traumatic version of the ending, methinks. (Or more, if Toby implements a Betrayal method) 4:41 It is very likely that we will be destroyed down the line of that happens as well. Toby has the final cutscene planned since back in August, 2011. I would doubt that the Vessel is present. It's more likely that Susie and Kris are. Many changes happened since, so I wonder how close it will be to that dream.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
That could be the case, but it would feel kinda weird having to do resets and stuff in order to do that.
@gabrote42
@gabrote42 9 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. Well if you just guess that they would invite Susie (from how they are not scared of her in the jigsawry dialogue, and protect her from king, or assume that they would not be fine with the Spamton fighr) and so do it from memory. And once Kris starts telling you what to say, you would not need to LOAD anymore
@8pierrot89
@8pierrot89 9 ай бұрын
I find myself thinking of the relationship between Kris, The Player, and the world of Deltarune as being akin to Plato's "Allegory of the Cave". In an interest in interacting with (and dare I say, BELONGING to), Kris' World, we interpret the sprites and Kris' (Unwilling) Observations and use those things to form an understanding of Deltarune. But this understanding is inherently flawed; Kris and all the other characters see the world of Deltarune as it truly is - they live there. We can only interpret the shadows on the wall that Kris gives us, that is as close to "Deltarune's reality" we can get. So, I guess what I'm trying to say is, I wonder what'll happen when Kris gets fed up of giving us shadows?
@8pierrot89
@8pierrot89 9 ай бұрын
(This line of thinking was admittedly sparked by a fanfiction where Kris fucks up at a spelling bee but it's still an interesting line of thinking)
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Perhaps that's what Deltarune's world truly needs, someone who sees things differently.
@wonderhoyami
@wonderhoyami 9 ай бұрын
i was literally thinking about this whole thing all day today, and honestly the goner vessel being back was my idea too,, the more i think about it, the worse i feel about kris. i mean if i was them i would literally be going insane,imagine you doing things that you are not actually doing but nobody literally notices and in the weird route, the thing controlling you literally makes you kill (?) someone. gosh i hope the goner vessel is actually used and kris can be themselves while we can still interact with the game.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I always feel a bit of guilt when im playing the game.
@Crowner31
@Crowner31 9 ай бұрын
Imagine if the one ending too deltarune stuff was actually just some elaborate joke set up by Toby where no matter what you do you will always fail the group project no matter what timeline
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
The true tragedy of Deltarune
@mr.j3rs3y
@mr.j3rs3y 8 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. Alphys will never give us that A+.
@kramkrum3672
@kramkrum3672 9 ай бұрын
"What do you want from Deltaru-" Gaster. That is all I want and all I've been waiting for since it was announced.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
How can you want something that isnt there?
@kramkrum3672
@kramkrum3672 9 ай бұрын
​@@PlayerCarter. Hey, Gaster's there, man; he's the silly-billy unimportant character who hands out eggs, right? No for real though, I'm excited to see how dark things will get when he shows up.
@AnnoyingDog1997
@AnnoyingDog1997 9 ай бұрын
2016 fandoms be like:
@lloxu
@lloxu 9 ай бұрын
i think your theory is super interesting, but something i really agree with you on is that deltarune is setting you up. everything you do, from how you fight to what choices you make with kris feels like something Toby is just waiting to call you out on later down the line. i also think that deltarune is intended for people like you or me, who have played all of undertale and know the whole “spare everyone” thing. from what i remember, Toby advertised deltarune specifically as “for people who have played undertale.” i feel like this is super important but i could be wrong of course
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Nice to hear, there's certainly going to be some way deltarune catches everyone off guard whether they're pacifist neutral or violent.
@NickieX3
@NickieX3 9 ай бұрын
I love these essays they have this charm. They toggle interesting topics but also insert the funniest jokes I’ve seen in a while. The “can’t call me a bad person in person” joke made me laugh. I really love these videos there aren’t a lot of them but I still enjoy them.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! I'm very glad my humor landed.
@NickieX3
@NickieX3 9 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. no I should be thanking you for making me laugh! Keep the great work up!
@ICountFrom0
@ICountFrom0 Ай бұрын
Honestly? What I want? A complete game, and the artists vision mostly complete. I know, I'm an odd one. But I wouldn't be bothering with anything in the "indi" world, if I wasn't intersted in the artistic visions of those creators. So yha, that's the important part to me.
@straberymelo
@straberymelo 9 ай бұрын
i like the short videos theyre great :3 but i cant say i wouldnt be happy to watch a longer one either
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Ill keep that in mind thank you!
@infizer0
@infizer0 9 ай бұрын
I agree with all your points, but I just wanna say that I love the style of your videos so much. The visuals are so fun and engaging to look at!
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! I put a lot of effort into them so it's nice to know they're enjoyed.
@CyborusYT
@CyborusYT 9 ай бұрын
great vid and I think that's the best series of events leading to a kris fight i've seen
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! Thought I might as well speculate a bit just to make the vid a bit more interesting.
@DomsPeacefulLife
@DomsPeacefulLife 8 ай бұрын
Never even heard of this game but i appreciate the work you put into the video. Keep it up!
@pancakes8670
@pancakes8670 9 ай бұрын
I wanna live in a timeline where one day we'll see youtube videos titled with "Deltarune: Gaster boss battle (Official)"
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Born too late to sans boss battle, born too early to gaster boss battle...
@duskadown6751
@duskadown6751 6 ай бұрын
born just in time to apply Plato's Allegory of the Cave to a 2/7ths finished video game
@juanj3351
@juanj3351 9 ай бұрын
The whole 1 ending thing is talked about the most in my group friends. Glad i finally see a video like this. I do have an idea / theory but its mostly just speculation
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, its certainly a big question that should be answered.
@BooTube5
@BooTube5 8 ай бұрын
I love this editing and video in general!
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@marmalade._
@marmalade._ 9 ай бұрын
Amazing video!! Also love your editing style :)
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Alignn
@Alignn 9 ай бұрын
I really hope "the player is bad" isn't where the story ends up going. It'd be banal and boring, plus it's just stupid for games to guilt the player for something the writers decided long before you even picked up the controller. I do think Deltarune is trying to make you think about such things, but I don't believe it'll try to pull that specific plot point as some kind of twist - it's practically revealed at the end of chapter 1, after all. There's something odd about how Kris behaves. They can pull the SOUL out, but only do so at very specific moments, and seem to be prepared for those moments, like the birdcage. And they keep going with opening the dark world at home even after the Snowgrave route, so the decision to do that doesn't seem to be based on an impulsive "I had so much fun with Susie, let's do that some more". It's like they know what's going to happen. Fun fact: Right at the beginning where we currently get "Your - name - is - ..." from maybe-Chara, there's some unused content of Susie saying "Kris...! Wake up! KRIS...!", which wouldn't make much sense if it was just a dream Kris was having or something, since the two hadn't become friends yet. Unless... unless there's some kind of time loop plot twist. Maybe some kind of RESET? Kris did have their own save file, after all. Personally I think Deltarune's plot is going to be something *very* different from what we are expecting. The elements of player control and reality vs fantasy are certainly going to be present, but not the big twist that made Toby determined to make a game out of that fever dream.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
I get where you're coming from with "the player is bad" being a bad twist. Though what I think makes it good is that it sits on a fine line between the dissatisfaction of a predetermined ending and being caught off guard for your negligent actions. This is because while the ending does happen regardless to your actions (which connects well to your choices dont matter), it also happens because you're caught up in the fun of playing the game that you forget Kris is suffering every second you play it. From the way I see it, its rather sobering, giving a twist similar to what early players of Undertale felt when they were held accountable for playing it like any other rpg. Which is what I think is at least a part of what Toby Fox ultimately wants Deltarune to achieve
@GamingDragon221
@GamingDragon221 9 ай бұрын
Something to note is that Toby said that he can't wait for everyone to befriend all the main characters. That would supposedly inclide Kris as well. There may still be ambiquity on the relationship between us and Kris, but Im sure it'll end better for everyone.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Of course! Im sure Deltarune will have a good ending.
@VaultInteractive
@VaultInteractive 9 ай бұрын
GREETINGS. A FEW WORDS IF I MAY. THE ONES LOST IN THE DARK WILL BRING YOU TO THE LIGHT YOU SEEK. SO FREE THEM FROM THE SHADOWS, AND YOU WILL BENEFIT GREATLY. GOOD LUCK AND DONT FORGET.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
*You faintly hear what sounds like footsteps walking away
@fiifighters2707
@fiifighters2707 7 ай бұрын
Wow these videos are super high quality! 🎉
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Bobboerba
@Bobboerba 9 ай бұрын
We need to get the vessel back so we can TASTE THE SWEET PAIN
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
pain tastes very good
@JSheerXeno54
@JSheerXeno54 4 ай бұрын
as i played deltarune... i play the game with Kris's personality and such in mind. i go out of my way to make sure i don't make Kris uncomfortable. which wont go as chapter 1 & 2 went since i had foresight with those 2... chapter 3 and 4 wont have that for me. i'll be going in blind but i think i have an idea on how Kris is. I wish, that i could tell Kris that i'd like their input to help guide me play the game. i want a dynamic duo type thing going on. i do hope i get the opportunity to do that in later chapters.
@mrstickmantas
@mrstickmantas 9 ай бұрын
4:52 if you don't make one but starting after chapter 1 it defaults to the frist option for all. But its gift is MIND. Ya know THAT THING THAT LETS YOU THINK (not important to this but the whole mind thing does make me wonder which is hard not to do here so I'll stop.)
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm very worried the vessel is sentient and controlling them would be just as unethical as controlling Kris. Though I doubt it cause that would defeat the whole purpose of having a vessel.
@mrstickmantas
@mrstickmantas 9 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. the crack theory is that the vessels the knight but is like flowery and there's some stuff you can do with that with chapter 1's theme of discarded things (chaos king) also in the goner maker we told "it will not hear" like its got a mind of its own. I also don't remember where I was going with this
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
you nearly gave me an aneurism reading that tbh@@mrstickmantas
@mrstickmantas
@mrstickmantas 9 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. me too
@MisterLambda
@MisterLambda 9 ай бұрын
Exceptional, I must say I really enjoy your presentation. The spritework, the in-game dialogue boxes, etc. It adds really nice flavour. I for one would not mind if you wanted to in a manner of speaking pad out your videos with some more nitty-gritty detail or speculation and other fun stuff. The wait between the chapters are a long, and the discourse satiating.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! I'll keep that in mind and maybe do a pull soon.
@Slenderquil
@Slenderquil 7 ай бұрын
This makes me imagine something like the trial from Chrono Trigger, with little decisions that Kris don't like being brought into question
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 7 ай бұрын
Kind of reminds me of facade when they're like "I've been paying attention to what you've been saying this evening" or something like that.
@sneeze_organ
@sneeze_organ 9 ай бұрын
hey boss!! awesome video (: please keep it up!!! love seeing ur creativity!
@sneeze_organ
@sneeze_organ 9 ай бұрын
longer videos would be very much loved, but i hope you choose to do whatever makes making your videos most fun!!!
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
We'll see, all really depends on what I come up with next.@@sneeze_organ
@Scrbob
@Scrbob 9 ай бұрын
Great video. Really! Amazing video.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@AngelOfNoMercy
@AngelOfNoMercy 9 ай бұрын
@6:23 fun fact this "fan fiction" is going to be at least 90% right.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
I'd scream and feel like Winnie the Pooh for a second if it's that accurate. (That was a quote from the latest newsletter)
@AngelOfNoMercy
@AngelOfNoMercy 9 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. I've been calling it since chaper 1 with jevil and shawm talking about darker yet darker. We are 100% gunna fight gaster at some point. And gaster got our soul from the genocide ending so that's why he has it in deltarune. It's a cycle of life and death like the themes of undertale with us being the angel of mercy or no mercy.
@AngelOfNoMercy
@AngelOfNoMercy 9 ай бұрын
But people tend to not listen to crazy ramblings of old men.
@krazyivan9733
@krazyivan9733 9 ай бұрын
There is only one way that this can all end... The player simply stops playing. Whether you reached the end or not only matters to you.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
I'm sure there'll be a better solution than that.
@VcSaJen
@VcSaJen 7 ай бұрын
Some fans are really pushing the narrative that Kris is a helpless victim, and player is a manifestation of everything that's evil. But why would anyone play the game where the best outcome is not to play? Why would anyone play the game where you HAVE to follow some script hallucinated by some fanatics, even though the game provides you with options to play how you want it?.. YOU are the character within the world of Deltarune, too, and you can't have the happy ending if YOU are unhappy. Ultimately, it is more honest to play as yourself, instead of mindlessly imitating the version of Kris that you dreamed-up and lying to everyone by doing that. Not to mention [Big Shot] is OUR power, not Kris'. Fountain can be closed with OUR power, not Kris'. GAME OVER screen clearly shows us the outcome of stopping playing: eternal darkness. MC clearly either wants or needs the SOUL, both variants shows that continuing playing is in the best interests of everyone. So no, you are not the saint by deliberately skipping Chapter 1. Kris is not free just because you haven't touched your keyboard.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 7 ай бұрын
I 100 percent agree that the player shouldn't just stop playing, it is true that Deltarune more or less needs them. But I am just as sure that Kris Will at first be upset with their condition of being controlled at the least.
@Versanitybutreal
@Versanitybutreal 9 ай бұрын
Funny thing: I picked the exact same vessel selection as the one in the thumbnail and video
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Funny indeed
@Versanitybutreal
@Versanitybutreal 9 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. i laughed so hard that I learned that Toby Fox forced someone or he made himself a cursed version of Toy Story soundtrack (Idk if it's real tho)
@Jarack25
@Jarack25 9 ай бұрын
Although I want this theory to be real and would love to apologize to Kris via the vessel, I feel like the weird route would be hard to account for. Then again, it's Toby, so he'd probably be able to think of something.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
I really should have mentioned the weird route, but it would make sense for it to also result in Kris rejecting the player's control. Which is the point of the actual "ending".
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 9 ай бұрын
You technically don't have to apologize, forgiveness can be optional with an event like the Roaring. In RPGs the horrific event almost always becomes reality and it is up to you to stop it, saving those who remain is a big enough excuse to work together. Similarly since the Player is used to seal stuff it is possible our use in sealing also seals us off from the world. Two birds with one stone effectively.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
In a fully pacifist route Kris would only reject the player's control because they're blinded by hatred or something, likely to do with Asriel or Ralsei. What I'm saying is in truth Kris probably shouldn't reject the player's control, but being controlled against your will for a whole week would probably make you a bit unreasonable.@@Buglin_Burger7878
@SurelyNotClover
@SurelyNotClover 9 ай бұрын
Dang. Such a good vid and what? Like, 750 subs? Some people really do end up in obscurity aren't they?
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm just glad there are people who watch and enjoy what I make.
@CalamitasCalliope
@CalamitasCalliope 9 ай бұрын
While I do think bringing back the Vessel is the easiest solution and maybe even the most likely, I still think it would be an odd choice narratively to say "Kris is not a blank slate protagonist and overriding their will is bad: even if you had no choice and did everything in your power to help them." And then immediately after that, we are given a new vessel to control and told "don't worry guys, this time the vessel is 100% unfeeling and is a perfect blank slate. Don't feel any conflict over possesing this one." The questions in the Goner Maker seem to imply that the vessel is a living, breathing being distinct from the player. The "It will not hear" line is what really makes me think that. So while the vessel idea is very likely and is supported by evidence, I think that the thematic part of the story would land much better if either we don't possess the vessel at all, or the vessel is still treated as distinct from us in a way similar to Kris. If I may write speculative fan fiction, I would like to see Kris directly communicate with us and allow a sort of truce to be formed. Maybe they need us to close the Fountains and save the world, but they expect us to end the connection when the world is saved(facilitated by reaching the end credits). This could even work in a Weird Route and still be mostly the same. If we were nice, Kris might be slightly more understanding and that will give us more time to view the world through Kris before the end credits end the connection. But in the Weird Route, Kris can be much more vindictive and aggressive towards us and make the final leg of the journey much harder and give us less of an emotional connection to the world. They might need us to save everyone, but they would still hate our guts
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
It certainly is possible that the vessel is their own individual as well. Though it would likely have the same effect of it being at least better than controlling Kris, as the vessel's whole purpose, sentient or not, is to well be a vessel for the player.
@Shizkeb
@Shizkeb 9 ай бұрын
Undertale be like did you know that video games have players? I’m so smart! That will be 10$ please
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Deltarune ain't gonna be free for long.
@CreativelyJake
@CreativelyJake 7 ай бұрын
while this video was short, it got me thinking a LOT about alternatives to gaster (and the mysterious other voice) 's motives as well as our relation to kris. ive always assumed it to be ABC, but it might be a 123, so to speak
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 7 ай бұрын
Hopefully I'll make some longer videos in the future, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@CreativelyJake
@CreativelyJake 7 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. oh, no pressure. short n sweet is equally appreciated! just gettin ideas out there in the mix is lovely.
@soggy_kitkats
@soggy_kitkats 7 ай бұрын
That silly little gaster. Cant stop himself from traumatizing some poor middle schoolers.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 7 ай бұрын
What a scrimbly little scrumbly Gaster is
@ofconsciousness
@ofconsciousness 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this! Love me some UT/DR content
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Proudly doing my part to fuel the brain rot 👍
@ofconsciousness
@ofconsciousness 9 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. o7
@thenobody7509
@thenobody7509 9 ай бұрын
So, i have my own theory regaurding who we the player are and our relation to kris is. See, my own theory is that kris before the start of the game. While looking into the occult stumbled upon how to create a dark fountain which they would go on to do in the bunker not expecting it to do anything. Only, it did and this mistake would lead them to being possessed by the entity We control at the start of the game. Now what exactly are we? Well, i believe We are a Titan.
@GodChaos333
@GodChaos333 9 ай бұрын
Your editing is quite enjoyable. And i do kinda feel the same. That toby might make a moral in the game about taking control of kris's life. And using him and others like a tool in the weird route. I hope its more then just. Controlling is bad. Because duh of course it is. I hope he has more to say.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! It'll certainly be more complex than my video, I just kept it simple to minimize things I could get wrong.
@dynamiaa
@dynamiaa 9 ай бұрын
Man I love those doom style graphics they're so unique. :D
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! Pixelating everything does a good job at masking inconsistencies.
@Komega01
@Komega01 8 ай бұрын
"i'm going to delta-ruin you!!"
@thenobody7509
@thenobody7509 8 ай бұрын
Doubt you'll see this. But, i think this breaking point might just be Kris understanding the situation. A point where everything is seemingly gone but Kris and our own will simply will not let the world die. No matter what kris decides we need to set our differences aside and completely work together. Neither of us wanted this but neither of us want to allow the destruction of the world either.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 8 ай бұрын
I'm sure Kris will eventually understand the situation. But in their moment of independence they'll likely do something irrational.
@thenobody7509
@thenobody7509 8 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. In a moment of pure despair and hopelessness I could see kris just saying screw it and makes a bunch of fountains tbh.
@truegamer7760
@truegamer7760 3 ай бұрын
I honestly like this theory and think it works well with the goodster theory.
@ezerox7778
@ezerox7778 9 ай бұрын
Really makes me wonder if all of this really is gonna be just "Yeah it's Gaster" or something lmao Like c'mon, we've been waiting for years, we wanna see what he even looks like (canonically at least)
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
The mystery of Gaster certainly isn't going to go unanswered.
@nameguy606
@nameguy606 9 ай бұрын
Pretty great video.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@magpye5623
@magpye5623 9 ай бұрын
Who wants to guess the release date of chapter 3 & 4? I’m praying for May
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Earliest would be September, Toby Fox activity always spikes in the fall.
@themostamericankenjaku
@themostamericankenjaku 8 ай бұрын
I am expecting it during this Fall (most likely around september or october)
@marsgreekgod
@marsgreekgod 8 ай бұрын
just a little thing. with kris not liking ralsei that much, 60 healing isn't bad at all. it's netural at worst
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 8 ай бұрын
Trust me I'm a fellow "Kris doesn't hate Ralsei" supporter. I covered this in my meta triangle of deltarune video.
@josephbulkin9222
@josephbulkin9222 7 ай бұрын
What do I want? I want Deltarune to be CONSISTENT. I don't want to end a chapter on the player character essentially removing you from his body, making threatening gestures, only to come to the next one with some joke about pie like it never even happened, expecting you to just pretend it didn't happen at all. I want the story to take itself seriously. I'm sick of the jokes. I was told to save the world from apocalypse, let's focus on that.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 7 ай бұрын
Every story has its ups and downs, things will be serious and things will be humorous. Though the pie thing was pretty jarring.
@cloverglider540
@cloverglider540 7 ай бұрын
hey this is so good
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@krazyivan9733
@krazyivan9733 9 ай бұрын
Personally, I actually believe that in many ways Kris is in more control than the player. I get the feeling that they had been expecting us for a very long time. And they're prepared for us.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Well they certainly didnt prepare enough
@qwerkel878
@qwerkel878 2 ай бұрын
Bro, what you imagined could really happened. I feel like you spoiled me chapter 7 lmao
@theshiningcrusader
@theshiningcrusader 9 ай бұрын
I like on how you're wearing a striped shirt, that means you're a kid
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
It was surprisingly hard to find one with a single stripe. I guess people just dont understand the peak of fashion.
@theshiningcrusader
@theshiningcrusader 9 ай бұрын
@PlayerCarterOfficial maybe there aren't that many kids anymore..
@BlitzkriegOmega
@BlitzkriegOmega 9 ай бұрын
I don't believe Toby for a *moment* when he says there is one ending....but that instead, there will only be one proper conclusion. The Normal Route. Maybe small changes depending on whether you were Nice (Spared Darkners) or Rude (fought Darkners until they fled), but the Normal Route will be "The One Ending." But what about the Weird Route? The one in which the player intentionally acts in ways to break the established story? I think that the Weird Route will be shorter, as whoever is in charge of the narrative (Probably Gaster, but that's merely speculation) Will simply *stop* the game after you've so thoroughly ruined everything. This is *not* an ending, but rather the narrative punishing the player for being Determined enough to ruin everything without remorse. You don't get to see the ending. You jerk.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
I very much should have covered the weird route in the video. I gave an answer in a community post if you'd like my explanation.
@torterratortellini6641
@torterratortellini6641 3 ай бұрын
What if The Vessel will be the Final Boss? Or maybe it would be Kris and your the game’s Final Boss.
@ihaetschool3361
@ihaetschool3361 9 ай бұрын
there's a flaw in this theory, and... well, every other theory where player possession is a big part: it runs on the assumption that player possession is actually canon. i know that a lot of theories run on assumptions, and ther'es nothing exactly wrong with that, but when you treat it as canon, there are gonna be problems. remember. it's really likely to be a core premise of deltarune, but it's not 100% likely to happen. those are two different things
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 9 ай бұрын
Its not a flaw though, from the intro the "Player" as we call the Red Soul is quickly established to not be Kris. Even so far as with the chapter 2 bonus boss fight pushing the idea that Kris can't cut the strings because they would die. Given how things are 1:1 in their species from UT to DR this only further enforces what is established. We've all but had it directly said at this point, a major shift in this would be incredibly dangerous.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
I guess you could say its head canon, but given Gaster's diegetic communication to us the player across our world (when Deltarune was announced on twitter) and the game's world (goner maker) I'm whiling to stand by it.
@katarzynabrzemia175
@katarzynabrzemia175 9 ай бұрын
underrated
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@SullyTheLightnerd
@SullyTheLightnerd 9 ай бұрын
Deltarune actually has 2 endings as of now and I suspect that the total amount will be 7-8. The current endings are the chapter 1 ending, and chapter 2 ending. Like subscribe and share this video if gaster makes you hard
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
You're gonna make me break my comment reply streak with one like this
@SullyTheLightnerd
@SullyTheLightnerd 9 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. what’s a comment reply streak?🧐
@SullyTheLightnerd
@SullyTheLightnerd 9 ай бұрын
@@PlayerCarter. I’m still waiting for an answer😔
@YouMayKnowMeAsNate
@YouMayKnowMeAsNate 9 ай бұрын
Cool
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@steampunkWizardStudios
@steampunkWizardStudios 9 ай бұрын
Homestuck music observed 👀
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 9 ай бұрын
I've never read it, I just saw people remixing penumbra phantasm for Deltarune so I used it.
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