The Power of Quantum Thinking | Dr. Vandana Shiva at Consciousness Symposium (2024)

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The Wonderstruck Podcast with Elizabeth Rovere

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@narveenaryaputri9759
@narveenaryaputri9759 Күн бұрын
A courageous woman like Vandana Shiva needs to be given more international recognition so all know of her message. This speech/presentation has the strongest message on unity I have heard of recent. The message is more powerful since it combines all thought, western philosophers with the Upanishads and Vedic thought. Extremely powerful. Her activism is becoming stronger as she matures into it.
@sebastianjoseph3897
@sebastianjoseph3897 15 сағат бұрын
Amazing integration of social scientific thinking with science. These types of lectures are the need of the day. Hats off to Vandana Shiva !
@MichaelMartinussen
@MichaelMartinussen 2 күн бұрын
So glad to see and hear Vandana from the angry activist to the positive quantum thinker- LOVE THIS !!!
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 2 күн бұрын
You mean after all this "time" someone infers from a physics theory that "everything is One"? I don't need physics to know that: all the great traditions since writing was invented have said that, and a moment's proper "reflection" should at least demonstrate intellectually that it must be true.
@Ndeye-p4h
@Ndeye-p4h 5 сағат бұрын
I am not good at mathematics but I have a fascination for it and quantum sciences. Since I have taken a journey of awareness, I am seeing serendipity, butterfly effect, and synchronicity all the time. It's as if 2 forces have always broadcast in our head. The one you choose to nourish will work with you. And the unconditional love has always been here and owns the universes. Everything is alive. And that love voice is so talkative in a lovely way because he owns the chiffres, time and space, everything and everyone answers to him. It can't be otherwise. Thank you for your work and God bless you.
@JahsonTheScienstist27
@JahsonTheScienstist27 Күн бұрын
Absolutely love how clear Vandana Shiva is when it comes to the philosophy of science. It is non-deterministic, objectivity is not given, unity and non-locality, the whole determines the part. Eloquently portrayed and with brevity. Thank you and we love your work and vantage point
@charlesfaull9115
@charlesfaull9115 3 күн бұрын
From a South African who has meditated twice a day for 37 years you struck a deep note with "Finding joy in oneness" and the devastating state of "Lacking Trust" that fills the hearts of the X , Y and Z generations ....it's impossible to daily experience the state of the VOID in meditation , and not to be acutely aware of these two "quantum qualia" ... such a wonderful address .... echoing the insights of Donald Hoffman , Federico Faggin , John Hagelin , Tony Nader , Bernado Kastrap , Iann McGilchrist and others ❤
@edwardharris5333
@edwardharris5333 3 күн бұрын
Yeah life is meditation all sow there is no mind. The nurture of mind is the beating of nature beyond words in beings fullnest as inner earth and beyond. It's one loves sound as a song that we don't even do anything as it all just happens and exposes protective things and we share those.....amazing. we love life because we are that and we are just that nothing possibly? And it's all beautiful and we are changeless change and we use words for pointing as presence residing same sided. Everything is mates and it's just lovely.
@sarojrajsatyal3736
@sarojrajsatyal3736 Күн бұрын
What do you mean by twice day of meditation after 37 years of practice.....it's 24 hour job not just twice a day ....awareness
@Philosia
@Philosia 2 сағат бұрын
It is not a job! Please speak your experience.
@RealtyInfosolMumbai
@RealtyInfosolMumbai 34 минут бұрын
Wow!! Just beautiful lecture.
@pmnaru
@pmnaru 2 күн бұрын
Dr Shiva put it very nicely. Energy is the basic block
@janelast5177
@janelast5177 3 күн бұрын
Thanks Very insightful and thought provoking
@tysonmckinney5494
@tysonmckinney5494 2 күн бұрын
I’m surprised she didn’t mention the Bhagavad Gita specifically, and how it corresponds to the development of quantinamical consciousness. I would say that the mechanical thinking is more the indentured servitude/ artificial survival economics. Those base on the reptilian and mammalian or modes of ignorance and passion, and work for the benefit of All, by developing our consciousness. Many salient points. “The Ending of Time. “, was one of my first philosophy books, that was able to described some of my experiences. “ We are stars.” Thank you Prabu.
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 2 күн бұрын
I'm surprised she bothered to say anything at all about these ridiculous metaphors, especially as they are so painfully strained and mixed. People talk drivel about quantum this and quantum that these days. If we were in the 17th century we'd be using Newton's framework to infer/reach/describe the Divine...but now we know that's "wrong"! Jeez!
@saimadelen
@saimadelen Күн бұрын
🙏🕉️❤️💖❤️🤗🙋‍♀️🌹🌹Grateful😊loved listening to you Dr Vandana Shiva
@junebhattacharjee9669
@junebhattacharjee9669 3 күн бұрын
Wonderful speech Dr Shiva 🙏🏼🇮🇳💐🙏🏼
@SergeC72
@SergeC72 3 күн бұрын
Amazing - thank you for sharing this talk.
@charlesfaull9115
@charlesfaull9115 3 күн бұрын
The Ghandhi of the Reality of our Living World ❤ thank you for explaining" WHAT IS LIFE ?" In Nature Life organises itself through deep co-operation = quantum entanglement = Ubuntu in South Africa ❤
@robertcox14
@robertcox14 Күн бұрын
Using a "boom microphone" that is pinned to your head and placed near the mouth would enable 2 hands for papers and allow freedom to move your head without losing the sound of your voice. Wonderful presentation at a particular moment frozen and delivered to my grateful mind.
@AsifKhan-bv3iu
@AsifKhan-bv3iu 3 күн бұрын
Fantastic presentation.
@scottyoung7579
@scottyoung7579 3 күн бұрын
Legend amongst us.
@RajahGopalan
@RajahGopalan 19 минут бұрын
Wonderful ❤👍🙏💐
@sergehoogeveen9954
@sergehoogeveen9954 2 күн бұрын
❤🙏🕊 Dr. Sri Shiva a true Bharathiya
@saimadelen
@saimadelen 3 сағат бұрын
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@tonkaloui
@tonkaloui 2 күн бұрын
Goddess of the world☀️🌟💜
@srinivasanmuralidharan5344
@srinivasanmuralidharan5344 19 сағат бұрын
Vazhga Valamudan.
@umaneelakantan9327
@umaneelakantan9327 2 күн бұрын
Dandelions are consudered "garden weeds" ... But ...if you look closely...dandelions are very nutritious greens for good health
@tysonmckinney5494
@tysonmckinney5494 2 күн бұрын
Jai, Thanks, though, I’m surprised she didn’t mention the Bhagavad Gita specifically, and how it corresponds to the development of quantinamical consciousness. I would say that the mechanical thinking is more the indentured servitude/ artificial survival economics. Those base on the reptilian and mammalian or modes of ignorance and passion, and work for the benefit of All, by developing our consciousness. Many salient points. “The Ending of Time. “, was one of my first philosophy books, that was able to described some of my experiences. “ We are stars.” Thank you Prabu.
@bolobos
@bolobos 3 күн бұрын
This was amazing. The most wholistic biutiful worldview I've ever heard
@thomasthomasphilp4393
@thomasthomasphilp4393 22 сағат бұрын
She is just amazing. Isn't she?
@vidajugg
@vidajugg 3 күн бұрын
Consciousness exists in nature. Khalid Masood
@saimandebbarma
@saimandebbarma 2 күн бұрын
What she meant by quantum thinking means thinking that involves deep contemplation at the levels of quanta, the soul, and the higher self. 💫
@umaneelakantan9327
@umaneelakantan9327 2 күн бұрын
@ 41: 20.... Photon....Photosynthesis, ...is Life... and .. Negative Entropy of plants, trees.. . . Wonderful.. The Quantum view of the world...Autopesis. interconnectedness..
@vedadityabakshi9473
@vedadityabakshi9473 22 сағат бұрын
After listening to Dr. Vandana Shiva ji, one thing is certain our earth is in safe hands. ❤
@rajbthapar1880
@rajbthapar1880 11 сағат бұрын
Highly relevant to the present times of our world n applies to each n every countryn the humanity have high respect for her .
@nalinijogia329
@nalinijogia329 22 сағат бұрын
Fantastic Speech Dr Shiva 🙏
@Anannt_Urjaa
@Anannt_Urjaa Күн бұрын
We all are interconnected, separation between observer and observed is an illusion.
@niallkenny2506
@niallkenny2506 4 күн бұрын
The Gandhi of grain! ❤
@rajbthapar1880
@rajbthapar1880 11 сағат бұрын
All her words r precious words of value who value life on our planet .
@vasudhevankrishnan1719
@vasudhevankrishnan1719 3 күн бұрын
❤thanks 🙏🌱⚘️
@vedadityabakshi9473
@vedadityabakshi9473 22 сағат бұрын
Creative consciousness is the key
@KrishnamurthyManjarabad-cb2zv
@KrishnamurthyManjarabad-cb2zv Күн бұрын
with this method whether she was able to transcend the mind and reach samadhi at will is the only answer I would love to hear it ; the rest of it doesn't matter !
@ii-vf9zs
@ii-vf9zs 2 күн бұрын
🙏🍃
@tysonmckinney5494
@tysonmckinney5494 2 күн бұрын
Consciousness is better described as awareness. Most think they are, and only, if barely conscious of the misconceptions of themselves. Expand our bandwidth with transcendental harmonic resonance, that is what the Maha mantra is partially for, in my opinion. The preconceived survival mechanisms, and unprocessed traumas that get ingrained in to our survival mechanisms, that become culture.
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 2 күн бұрын
Ah, yes, those unprocessed traumas like BEING EATEN!! How do you propose we "process" that?
@tysonmckinney5494
@tysonmckinney5494 17 сағат бұрын
@@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 By detaching from the preconceived “vessel” and realizing that “…the soul is never cut not burned” (paraphrasing). But when our consciousness is based off of the reptilian and mammalian survival mechanisms attached to the individual or tribal conception of resondetre awareness, and develop tolerance for cognitive dissonance. You process that specific, being eaten trauma by stop thinking that’s what humans should be doing, ( not to preach, but humans are not carnivores, no acidic stomach, and long intestines, I digressed). But most of human history has been a perpetuation of coliseum effect, eliciting the recoiling of consciousness to the lower fight, flight, freeze of “survival brain” or any best the us vs them, solely binary conception of survival for those in your group when conditioned in to “tribal” brain. Sorry we process that kind of trauma, by not allowing ourselves to be led around by dog whistles and a misunderstanding of scientific fact, theory, and hypothesis. Then looking at what part of our families have maybe not immediate saber tooth tiger trauma, but basically learning to exist for the betterment of all with the mind of knowledge, with awareness and lessening of the passionate or ignorant reactions that get ingrained in to family, culture, society and never addressed. People complain about remainders of society, but don’t recognize the that they may be contorting their out variable in to an imbalanced equation, where it’s only meant to drive the energy to a few, instead of realizing that those perceived as not part of, are more like canaries in the coal mine of an incongruitious environment. A frog in a slowly heated pot does not know it’s beating eaten. Similarly, if the frog were to be triggered to thinking that it was only being put in to boil water when maybe it was just a picture of it, you can make the frog jump till it croaks. Sorry. Anyway just some thoughts. Deep breaths. Hope we all can maintain our humanity, by being more humane.
@tysonmckinney5494
@tysonmckinney5494 17 сағат бұрын
@@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 oh sorry and actually don’t know if you heard of, “The Body Keeps the Score.” But, recent genetic studies show that trauma gets passed in genetically as well as socially. So if a person is eaten, then probably did not pass on that genetic trauma to anyone, unless your talking about being nibbled on by a shark… but anyway. I know your post was mostly in just. I would say even more tenuous and ubiquitous is high school. Who didn’t have some “trauma” , dance, break-up, embarrassing thing that pops up, and might be a central theme of your “personality” . Or what to say of just family. Any way take care.
@edwardharris5333
@edwardharris5333 3 күн бұрын
What the entangle meant? A tune means what a tone meant to say possibly? Everything maybe sings of vibrational sign language and symbols are a sign for what? The vibration maybe the sign as language? #Q.e
@akhitwr
@akhitwr Күн бұрын
32:46
@deelipbade4285
@deelipbade4285 3 күн бұрын
हिंदी मे सबटायटल डालो/ सब सुनेगे /समझनेमे आसानी होगी/
@serrgggeo
@serrgggeo 2 сағат бұрын
"Shiva draws from the wisdom of quantum pioneers like Max Planck, Erwin Schrödinger, and David Bohm"...well WESTERN quantum pioneers, as the ancient texts of Upanishads and those seers, as Vasistha, Agastya, and so on were the pioneers of quantum, as an experience. We have to be clear that scientists did not discover quantum as an experience, but rather as their theory and reconstruction from, as she points out, a mechanistic view that had prevailed.
@tysonmckinney5494
@tysonmckinney5494 2 күн бұрын
Vandana, would you please be my guru? I was also waiting for the inclusion of the neo-triune brain theory, as it seems it could be supplemental your words.
@sureshbajaj6031
@sureshbajaj6031 2 күн бұрын
She has built her life around greening the crooked multinational corporations. ❤️
@timothyschmidt6228
@timothyschmidt6228 3 күн бұрын
Is this at The MET?
@derektaylor5556
@derektaylor5556 6 сағат бұрын
"The Mand1e)la Effect"
@richardprice9730
@richardprice9730 3 күн бұрын
Yes exactly we still haven't got it ,Thier are electron ,proton fields etc but the probability is equivalent to the so called particle consciousness and decoherence occur and separate entities are perceived it is simultaneous.Consciousness is the field so to speak of the ground the emergent being less , multiple aspects and one self ,not multiples selves with desperate realities ,reality is a construct .
@divineceotv
@divineceotv Күн бұрын
The world is just potential waiting to happen... it is done unto you as you beeline W, the basis of New Thought ancient wisdom teachings - see Thomas Troward, Ernest Holmes, Emma Curtis Hopkins
@maymorton7390
@maymorton7390 Күн бұрын
what about carl yung collective unconscious .
@pakwanlau6016
@pakwanlau6016 3 күн бұрын
😊😊
@akhitwr
@akhitwr Күн бұрын
33:33
@oldandwesternreviews2823
@oldandwesternreviews2823 3 күн бұрын
What's quantum thinking , it's totally absurd .
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 2 күн бұрын
I know. People can get distracted by all sorts of nonsensical drivel and think they're being profound. With regard to so called "spiritual matters" people would do far better contemplating the great works of all our cultures that address that topic head on rather than gabbling on about some physical theory that refers only to the mechanics of observable quantities. That's if you even give any of that sort of thing credence, of course. I think as a trained physicist she really should know better. There's a lot of this about at the moment, it seems. Not necessarily a bad thing - there could be far more destructive memes being propagated, I guess.
@runescape_systemsthinking
@runescape_systemsthinking 3 күн бұрын
Thumbnail shows a .. cat lady
@someonenotnoone
@someonenotnoone 2 күн бұрын
Show me that the moon will be gone when no one is conscious of it and I'll believe you. I, like Einstein, don't believe that the moon is not there when it's not being looked at.
@ThermaL-ty7bw
@ThermaL-ty7bw 2 күн бұрын
when you are on this planet , you chose to BE on this planet , then WHY in the hell , does NOBODY want to be here and experience the world like it is , it's amazing how people think , just putting two words together that we have NO IDEA ABOUT BOTH OF THEM , will make the NEW meaning somehow comport with reality ... ??? really , people , REALLY ??? and IF it would work , at all , WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO YOURSELF , it's cheating ... , it Really Really ... IS ... cheating ... yourself ...
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 2 күн бұрын
Choosing to be here? Demonstration of the proof of that assertion is NEEDED!
@SANN-1969
@SANN-1969 2 күн бұрын
Yes is karma
@umaneelakantan9327
@umaneelakantan9327 2 күн бұрын
It is. Consciousness is: Everything in intricate connection, ... It's Dynamic, Living Reality.
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 2 күн бұрын
Unless you're already "dead" inside, of course...then it becomes a material Hell...
@RichardLucas
@RichardLucas 3 күн бұрын
As a person who has personally experienced summa Samadhi, I can say with what ever authority that is supposed to bring that this is horseshit. There is a looong history of people looking at some of the more questionable interpretations of quantum mechanics and saying, "Hey, this is mysterious and maybe it would explain this other mysterious thing which might not exist but I rilly, rilly want to exist... maybe _that_ mystery is the same is _this_ mystery and if I mash them together, I have one fewer mystery!" It's just babbling.
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 2 күн бұрын
Flicking through the comments (and in the same vein as you, I think) I just have to thank you for providing a quantum of sanity. I had an experience which descriptively is matched by the word samadhi in the 80s and I also think that stuff like this is just babble. No-one can know the Mystery in this way, one can only have an experience which is beyond all intellectual grasp, frankly. And whatever the Ultimate Truth (whatever that is) I know that it is an inexplicable part of my being and it left me with a feeling that if It wasn't then nothing could be. But that's just the after shock trying vainly to rationalize. Have a good day. I hope you do.
@aky2k10
@aky2k10 3 күн бұрын
BS
@laxmikantbhenki507
@laxmikantbhenki507 Күн бұрын
Such leftist mind set not accepting the what sanatan says it's land of seekers Just by saying without experiencing don't work in bhartiya sanatan Knowledge that should bring change in life and karma pattern is more important in common human as well nature life Abhyasa is more important to see bramha in every living being even in stone that can resonate with vibration
@CouplesLite
@CouplesLite 13 сағат бұрын
What a Disappointment. Nothing New or Profound.
@ricardsole1347
@ricardsole1347 3 күн бұрын
bla bla bla bla bla .... quantum.... . bla bla bla... consciuosness .... bla bla bla ... Einstein... bla bla bla.... Schrodinger ...bla bla bla the roots of the plants are brains ... bla bla bla.... all life is entangled ... bla bla bla so many words to mix the wrong concepts and say nothing relevant.
@AthieGovender
@AthieGovender 3 күн бұрын
Too much for you.
@JustAnotherGoddess52
@JustAnotherGoddess52 3 күн бұрын
Go back to bed grandpa. Let the next generation save the world since yours couldn’t.
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 2 күн бұрын
@@JustAnotherGoddess52 Well, CHILD, you won't save the planet by following drivel like this. And you should be more accurate: my generation DIDN'T/HASN'T saved the world (lmfao) just like yours WON'T either. Fantasist!
@ItsMikeSandovalsYouTubeChannel
@ItsMikeSandovalsYouTubeChannel Күн бұрын
Another scammer
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679
@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 2 күн бұрын
Ridiculous metaphors, especially as they are so painfully strained and mixed. People talk drivel about quantum this and quantum that these days. If we were in the 17th century we'd be using Newton's framework to infer/reach/describe the Divine...but now we know that's "wrong"! So how could that be? Jeez! I think everyone who doesn't actually understand what quantum mechanics DESCRIBES should stop using the word. And as a physicist she really should know better than to mix her spirituality with physics: at least Lemaitre didn't make that mistake...perhaps there's something to Catholicism after all!! 😆
@niteengupte
@niteengupte Күн бұрын
The more you write the more your ignorance shines forth. Bravo.
@tysonmckinney5494
@tysonmckinney5494 2 күн бұрын
Consciousness is better described as awareness. Most think they are, and only, if barely conscious of the misconceptions of themselves. Expand our bandwidth with transcendental harmonic resonance, that is what the Maha mantra is partially for, in my opinion. The preconceived survival mechanisms, and unprocessed traumas that get ingrained in to our survival mechanisms, that become culture.
@akhitwr
@akhitwr Күн бұрын
49:09
@akhitwr
@akhitwr Күн бұрын
20:03
@ajithr1255
@ajithr1255 3 күн бұрын
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