The Price of Oslo (Episode 2) | Al Jazeera World Documentary

[@Rushour717]

I hope the Israelis will sooner or later learn that maintaining a occupation on Palestinian lands is unsustainable and will not lead to peace, just as the Palestinians learnt that refusing to recognise Israel's right to exist was unsustainable and did not lead to peace

[@1972dsrai]

Exactly. Until both sides are willing to own the mistakes they’ve each made and accept its not all the other sides fault, neither will be able to move forwards and achieve what most people want for the region. Surely their citizens must be tired of the senseless deaths and destruction every few years.

[@johnloomis7572]

We need to clarify that Palestine was a territory of the Ottoman Empire and included arabs and jews. The single biggest problem is that there is not a single rep. of palestianian arabs.

[@sandrad9695]

@@1972dsrai Read up on what Israel offered Arafat in 2000 when Clinton was able to bring both of them to the table. Israel offered Arafat 99% of what he asked for and he said no. The Palestinian Arabs have had terrible leaders who have not really had the people’s best interest at heart. Arafat was at heart a terrorist who wanted to destroy Israel and Abbas is the same. These poor people need good leadership.

[@Oshowski]

@@sandrad9695 come on you obviously totally did not watch or understand this documentary. Israelis didn't want to start negotiations, but when they realised they can totally fck the Palestinians they used it for cover of continual Settlement to prevent Palestine from ever being a free country. Netanyahu even supported Hamas if not keeps using them.

[@truthseeker7612]

​@@sandrad9695No. You need to read up. Israel offered them cloaked Israeli authority. Palestinians wanted their land back from the settlers and the right to govern themselves.

[@Mickey007]

It won't surprise me if Netanyahu had something to do with the Assinati0n of Rabin.

[@just9669]

This conflict is a complex problem, one agreement cant solve it. It will need few stages of deal and agreement

[@brothercaleb]

41:17 Not sure about this handshake 👀

[@madzen112]

It looked so good on TV

[@1972dsrai]

Why to this day has no agreement been found after coming so close in Oslo all those years ago? Obviously both sides were close enough at one point so why are they so divided at this current time?

[@larrygrecko921]

- lots of reasons but the Assassination of PM Rabin & subsequent rise to Power of Bibi Netanyahu & his Likud Party tops the list from the Israeli side . Netanyahu & Likud have moved Israeli politics far far Right of where things were in the 90s . Netanyahu campaigned against Oslo , he wants No part of a Two State solution . Basically the same thing happened to the Palestinians , HAMAS overtook the PLO . In short the extremists Won the people lost

[@yechezkelwasser3381]

Also Arafat refused a deal which essentially gave the Palestinians everything at Camp David in 2000. Clinton and his administration was none too pleased

[@1972dsrai]

@@yechezkelwasser3381 That was some years ago and Arafat died long ago. He could be blamed for not securing a de as l then, but there have been several leaders on both sides who’ve since failed to make any progress. Mistakes have clearly been made by both sides at various times.

[@mortef]

@@yechezkelwasser3381 Both Shlomo Ben Ami and Martin Indyk stated after Camp David that neither of them would accept the deal if they were in the Palestinian position.

[@childofeternity]

@@yechezkelwasser3381 No, he didn't. You're repeating Israeli propaganda.

[@SilverEye168]

28:31

[@TheStrategos392]

Arafat signed a deal fool’s deal. This is why to this day tension persists between Israel and Palestine. Israel essentially kept Palestine as a lap dog with no power. You have to give it to the Israelis though, they are master political chess players. After hearing these details in this video, the Palestinians essentially accepted bread crumbs and Israelis ate the entire dinner.

[@sandrad9695]

This documentary did not mention the other offers of a full Palestinian nation where Arafat was offered 90% of what he wanted in 2000. He didn’t get east Jerusalem as a capitol and a couple of other things. But it dismantled settlements and gave the Palestinians a sovereign state. Arafat said no. In 2008, Abbas was offered even more of the land he wanted, 94% of it. And he said no. So, yes, Israel did eventually offer a sovereign Palestinian state in the West Bank, but the PA turned it down again.

[@koscocosco5309]

They refused right to return..

[@sandrad9695]

@@koscocosco5309 The right to return to Jaffa and Haifa, etc.?

[@koscocosco5309]

@@sandrad9695 The right to right to wherever they were displaced from..

[@sandrad9695]

@@koscocosco5309 😳 They turned down having their own nation in the West Bank for THAT?! Wow. They have worse leadership than I thought. That’s never going to happen. Jews don’t have the right of return in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Morocco, or any other Arab or Muslim nation they were kicked out of. Jews certainly don’t have the right to return to Ramallah, Nablus, or any other Arab city in the West Bank that they were kicked out of in 1948. Why are the Palestinian Arabs different? Israel can’t risk millions of Arabs coming back into Israel proper. Israel needs to remain Jewish and keep itself safe. If Palestinian Arabs turned down their own nation because of that, then they’re never going to have one and it will be their own fault. And it’s really sad.

[@geevarghese201]

@@koscocosco5309 y would these people want to return to israel they could live in Palestine with their brothers in the negotiated lands..

[@anonviewerciv]

So I'm not sure why this documentary series came up when I searched for Yitzhak Rabin's assassination, because there's barely anything about it in both of these videos.

[@abdulinho1756]

But u watched them though

[@geraldlevin5141]

Getting back to 1921 partition plan; 1] In August 1007 I was invited to the London Commonwealth & Foreign Office; with very important Gulf War information. 2] As thanks, I was appointed to a Commonwealth project to ‘Facilitate Israel joining the Commonwealth’ 3] I asked why Israel’s entry was wanted. 4] They explained that after World War 1 1n 1918, as the War of Armageddon war was fought 19-25 September 1918 at Megiddo, they decided to re-establish Israel.The 1917 Balfour Declaration called for Arab land, so Trans-Jordan was established as the Arab Palestinian state in 1921, 0n 70%. 5] Israel’s 1922 establishment (on ALL of Cis-Jordan), was blocked by the new League of Nations. 6] The 1921 partition plan must be returned to!!!!

[@ibrahimnahushal9353]

Just how stupid the PLO was....

[@Twinioo]

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[@ramose83]

So, the Norwegian tricked Arafat and was only standing on one Side, instead of being neutral ... What a shame ...

[@capricornk9033]

It's like some sad cocktail party filled with the most mediocre people in the neighborhood - husbands, wives, brothers-in-law, acquaintances through marriage - fooling around with biblical entanglements and deciding the kinds of lives that nameless, faceless, moneyless and powerless people will lead. The cream does not rise to the top...in any country.

[@Fitplayer66]

Insightful documentary with lots of important issues about the Oslo Process, but they should at least discuss the wave of suicide bombs by factions such as Hamas in the 1990s that virtually destroyed Israeli belief in peaceful negotiations. It was two suicide bombs right before the Israeli elections in 1996 that basically thrust Netanyahu into the role of Prime Minister. How such a documentary can ignore extremism on the Palestinian side is astonishing. I don't support Netanyahu or Israeli policy vis-a-vis the Palestinians currently, but this documentary is blatantly biased.

[@Botie2]

They cant discuss everything. They would also have to cover the cornering of Arafat and the evidence that suggests an assassination by Mossad and election process and Israel's dissatisfaction with the democratic election of Hamas and it's block aid in response which led to rockets, and on it goes. This was a very unbiased and fair representation in my view. It certainly was not a Fox pr0duction.

[@Sam-vk6es]

Israel was built on such terrorist attacks and ethnic cleansing of peaceful Palestinians !!

[@JT-zt7uq]

Agreed. I like watching Al Jazeera to understand the Arab point of view, not necessarily to get the whole truth.

[@ahmedkheyr1599]

you noticed those bombings and you did not notice how Norway and Jews conspired PLO. How Zionists were late 5 days to Washington agreement just to show off their arrogance. You did not notice those families whom their houses were taken and given to another people in broad daylight. Until you go through what Palestinians have been going through you will never understand how heartbroken it is when UN, Human Rights U.S.A and all those pioneers of democracy and human right activists are not doing anything. This documentary was about OSLO "peace" talks. Understand that

[@mikhailv67tv]

It's a good doco sure something's are missing . It does some justice to the Arab perspective. ALJ has its biases but it's was better than Murdock. So much of what's going on in Israel now is shipwrecked from Oslo. There must be a one state solution now, equal rights . Such opportunities missed. Palestinians must stop saying no.

[@eddikhan72]

Arafat was a fool according to this documentary and may be he was.

[@omarmadi999]

@alefstein 1. Ashkenazi return to khazaria 2. End of story

[@Botie2]

War mongering idiot.

[@mikhailv67tv]

Conspiracy theories try Google. Leave this discussion

[@alsu4345]

Please study the KJV Holy Bible. You will know what is for Israel. Until the 2nd coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. Love and obey Him . And To know what is going on.,.,