The Prison of Perception

[@foresthappel1543]

I would say this is a revolutionary talk by Roger, indeed!!! What he seems to me to be suggesting is a spiritual revolution. He speaks of the reenchantment of life. He speaks of a new fluidity as science questions its materialistic assumptions. I too believe that a way forward for our current earth crisis is thru some kind of a spiritual "turning of a corner" for humanity. Science itself has also shown us, basically, that many paranormal phenomenon are indeed real. I myself, as a climate activist, am working on gaining knowledge of neo-pagan practices, rituals and ideas. I believe this is one way to move forward in this reenchantment that Hallam speaks of....and yes, it could be revolutionary!!!

[@johnfowler4820]

" the dreaming path" by Paul Callaghan and uncle Paul Gordon is a very good book that connects us to ancient wisdom and gives us the courage to only make decisions that improve things for our children's children's children's children.

[@edazzz16]

Thanks!

[@Roger_Hallam]

Welcome!

[@johnfowler4820]

" think of the universe as a flash of lightning, a bubble in a stream"- the Buddha. He also said " seek your own salvation with diligence"

[@raymondtaylor6049]

No.I don't want to. What I really want is an ice cream 🍦 😊

[@hilaryporter7841]

"Our elites final death project" what a clever and truthful way to describe mankind's present direction of travel. Hope Starmer listened to your video Roger before he went off to pretend to save the world from climate change. Looking forward to your next pearls of wisdom.

[@SamWilkinsonn]

Starmer’s not stupid - he’s just knowingly and unashamedly complicit. He used to work on human rights issues and now he’s fully supporting a certain despicable leader’s ‘invasion’. Don’t think he’s not aware of our predicament.

[@marshalmaddening9011]

turn on tune in drop out

[@tohellorbarbados4902]

Roger needs to read "The Dialectics of Ecology", by John Bellamy Foster. I recommend it for its treatment, in particular, of revolutionary dialectical logic, the logic of process, of transcendence, of inversion and transformation.

[@abody499]

The idea that "the materialist ideology" depends solely on empiricism and classical realism is itself a reduction of science and philosophy. Furthermore, the idea of the world being mind dependent is a complete misunderstanding of "the measurement problem". As a synchronic and diachronic emergent power materialist, I'd say Hallam should spend time with the literature of critical realism to ensure he doesn't fall into the idealist trap that leads to an outright rejection of objectivity, to instead understand its unity with subjectivity.

[@noelkehoe8538]

Spiritual Revolution - Ethereal Epilepsy - Fantasy Island - Boss Boss The Plane Is Coming

[@democracy1]

The nature of stuff depends on how we look at it. Yes. This is interesting in the context of your conversation, yet we are not looking at the political system that is failing to represent the majority, and for obvious reasons. A minority is in control. Until we address the necessary constitutional changes that would make our world more democratic, until we look at our political system critically, it's 😮 to remain unchanged. That's not an outcome we can afford.

[@solartonytony5868]

... revolution is not on some social upheaval or ideology, it's between oneself and his/er own ego ....

[@musiqtee]

Thanks, Roger! Our journeys have been different in space, time and substance - while we both observe modernity starving itself into a slow oblivion, feeding off its own endless contradictions. Yes, it’s a cultural revolution, not in the sense most imagine right now - rather emergent from change as a prime mover. Change itself, as Hegel maybe ironically inspired Marx (+ many) to transcend into material analysis. That was wise for the time, as material-economic asymmetry seemed basal for societal growth in an early industrialized realism. Also pertinent that Haeckel coined *ecology* (1866) in a very inspired manner. The term got transhistorically stolen, towards the reductive understanding of «some interconnected heap of nature» outside of us - far away, something separate. Darwin’s beauty was transgressed - by economic power, not science - into Social-Darwinism. Maybe the worst single outcome of modern science abuse…? I surely don’t know how to «bridge» insights into something tangible - why Roger is right. That bridge is spiritual, connecting a dying culture into one emerging. When facts die - feelings awaken. A bridge to cross, once it’s real enough…😊

[@azami123]

I understand what Roger is saying, or at least I think I do. How do you explain this to people?

[@earthsystem]

Me too, I have touched the same elephant All our glimpses of the elephant are different, I love listening to Roger. I understand what it is to lose liberty for years, I appreciate his sanity saving messages to the outside world

[@johnfowler4820]

Eastern spirituality and the knowledge of the original folk of Australia is a good place to start

[@JulieMiller-of2dl]

Never forget how long Nelson Mandela spent in prison before he changed his immediate world.

[@radscorpion8]

He's in prison?!?

[@keithkessler3761]

Yes the men who are killing us all live free and in luxury, and the man who tries to stop them goes to prison.

[@pismopleasure]

I know Roger calls for action in the streets, a revolution to save the ecosystem. The level of power held currently by ruling elites not only in terms of wealth but also outreach, makes a revolution in the streets nearly impossible. It is my belief that the only hope humanity has, and it's a tiny sliver of hope, is that a charismatic leader emerges who can galvanize much of the world into a restructuring of society before collapse into chaos occurs. I voted for Harris/Walz only because I thought MAYBE she could evolve into such a leader. Her basic humanity suggested that was possible. She lost. We don't have time to wait for 2028's backlash against DJT, if it even occurs. I'm more convinced than ever that Roger is correct and 6 billion are going to die in the next few generations. A general uprising to save the ecosystem isn't likely to occur soon enough to actually work, without some national leader(s) calling for it to happen. So if my view is correct, who in Roger's opinion, is a national leader who might be able to accomplish this? Is there Anyone? Is there any country which is realistically not only ready to save itself but to spread the message of preserving the ecosystem effectively to the world? Given that my country has just elected a demented psychopath who believes more energy is the answer to everything, does such a country exist? I may want to move there. Maybe all eco-concerned should move there.

[@radscorpion8]

Just face the facts, the ecosystem is probably going to fail. And prepare for some kind of deep adaptation to that state. Or if you have a lot of money, you could try to fund some private venture to to attempt to geoengineer the climate and reduce net sunlight being absorbed by the planet (e.g. mirrors in space). That was always my favorite idea. But if that's not happening then, obviously yeah there's not much you can do. Its not about a charismatic leader. Its about what people fundamentally want and care about. Most people are more concerned with immediate economic issues and the price of gas, they don't care about long-term destruction. That's sad but true. I remember how Trudeau in my country, Canada, tried to impose a carbon tax because it was considered the most economically acceptable but impactful solution to help align us with our climate change goals. But Canadians overwhelmingly seem to be against it and are voting to have it scrapped. Humans basically, on a philosophical level, have earned their own demise; or at least most of them have. If you can survive, then maybe you can plan for a future humanity that isn't as short-sighted, but to be honest that would probably require some gene editing at some point.

[@JulieMiller-of2dl]

Australia 🌏🦘

[@raymondtaylor6049]

😮

[@radscorpion8]

I find it very funny that Roger Hallam is in prison, no offense to Roger. But it was entirely predictable. You can see his steady but slow descent into madness in real time. I read about his antics in the court room. Roger - you have to get one thing straight in your mind. You don't get to make unilateral decisions for other people living in Britain about how much action we should or shouldn't take on the climate. And you definitely don't get to drone-attack airports if you don't get your way, even if there is no threat of harm. That's what democracy is for, and what voting is for. If it doesn't work to your satisfaction...that's too bad. It won't make an exception for you, it will just rightly jail you because that's the bloody law! And that's assuming your actions even had a sliver of a chance of affecting global CO2 emissions. Britain is a small fraction of a percent of global emissions. It barely makes a difference at all, making your actions especially unjustifiable. You live in a society, with laws. There is a proper way for action to occur in a democratic society, and that's by people voting in political parties aligned with their interests. Not one-man or ten-people campaigns to blockade a freeway or shut down an airport. If that's how democracy were meant to operate, then endless numbers of extremist groups would constantly block the basic functioning of society until they got their way. That is basically a soft form of terrorism. Obviously caring about the climate is a noble goal but you can't break the law. It doesn't work (please don't cherry pick the cases it did and pretend its generally true), it makes other people angry at you, and as you have now found out, you only end up in jail. And if you try it again they'll just jail you for longer. Maybe instead try to find ways to motivate people WITHIN the confines of the law. Surely talking to them, is not too much to ask of you? Because I haven't seen you attempt to do this very basic thing. You instead seem intent on causing disruptions, as do all the protest groups you have spawned. They love the drama, they love being center of attention. But doing the hard work of door to door activism? Its too much work. Its too boring. And that's what I find so hypocritical about your movement, is it seems more concerned with fanfare and being on the front page, than actual change. I have never seen you go door to door and just talk to people. Maybe try some form of civil and constructive action next time.

[@El-xy1ul]

Maybe watch his bbc interview and you can hear him address all that you’ve said. Or any other longer interview where he addresses all of the above. Best to take time to understand (it means engaging with his longer talks about their intentions). Whether or not you agree at least you should have the correct info.

[@El-xy1ul]

Also the interview with Aaron from Novara media is very in depth. And addresses all the above.

[@NoMoreVoxPops]

Tell me more about what you think know about the UK's CO2 emissions.... I'll give you a head start if you like, bloke.

[@tohellorbarbados4902]

Yeah, because bourgeois democratic norms work so well, and Trump doesn't actually exist and even if he does he never did anything illegal and he went door-to-door and... ffs... it's not the world that you imagine it is. It's far, far from it...