The Problem Of Contradictions In The Bible

[@kalobrogers235]

May God bless Frank and his children. His work for the kingdom is truly amazing.

[@darkeen42]

You shouldn't less people for lying to you look up the account of the three women discovering the empty tomb .. you can lie all you want and say that I'm contradictions but there are contradictions stop letting people whose job it is to convince you the Bible's to teach you about it because they're going to lie if they have to

[@IsraelCountryCube]

​@@darkeen42yes Christianity is true and unlike the Quran and Atheisms evolution theory. It's false

[@TheDidacticMind]

Dr. Frank Turek just demonstrated how God invented the original "proof of work" and "blockchain" - as someone else correctly remarked. Damn but that's a brilliant argument.

[@allegory7638]

The problem with most believers in Jesus Christ is that they simply do not study the Bible for themselves (reading ain't the same thing as studying) and are COMPLETELY ignorant of the original languages and historical/cultural context of the writing of the books of the Bible. The problem with unbelievers in Jesus Christ is that they cannot spiritually understand the Bible. God only reveals Himself to the soul that is receptive. (I'm talking about revelation beyond the simplicity of the gospel message).

[@AdonaiZedek]

BS there is no spiritual understanding of the bible. First you have to look at Who what here when and how. You have to know who the author was and who was the author speaking to. it can be looked at from different perspectives but it is not spiritual. It just gives a perspectie of the text from another angel. I can give you 1000 contradictions in the bible. I can even prove Moses never existed. you dont find hi in Egyptian history in any type of way. The bible has unicorns and dragons family. it is not intended to be taken seriously.

[@evidentone9teen259]

Yes, the original language, and the historical/cultural context, is very important to understand the scripture more completely & more correctly. And the folks who prefer KJV Bible, need to have an understanding of how the English language has changed over the last 400 years. For example: When the KJV Bible translation was produced, the word "Unicorn", didn't mean "A mythical horselike animal with a single horn growing from its forehead". 400 years ago, the word "Unicorn", meant "Rhinoceros". However, even the word "Rhino", doesn't fit the original Hebrew word. The original Hebrew word in question is "Reh-ame'/Re em" (Strong's Concordance 7214). It occurs 9 times in the Old Testament. The word means "Wild ox", and is not always used literally, but poetically. Most modern Bibles have that word translated as "Ox", or "Buffalo". We don't need to necessarily learn Hebrew & Greek. I use an Interlinear Bible, along with both a Hebrew & Greek Lexicon (all keyed & coded to Stong's Concordance numbers). Of coarse Vines Complete Expository Dictionary is always within my reach.

[@ericmago4110]

@@evidentone9teen259 So homosexuals being stoned got lost in translation, and God promoting slavery, women having to be virgin before they are married not to be stoned, the psysically impossible Noahs Ark story, women's right to be silent and to be worth less than man ALL got lost in translation?

[@ericmago4110]

Christopher-Moses So, you are perfectly fine with God allowing people to own other humans as their property. Didn’t Jesus say: “Treat others how you want to be treated”? Or something alting those lines. If you justify slavery, I’ll happily buy you for a couple of shekels.

[@maow9240]

@@ericmago4110 explain how slavery is wrong?

[@joelrodriguez1232]

Since when is King James the final authority?

[@EnderTitan]

Joel Rodriguez A lot of people hold the King James Version in very, very high regard for some reason. The consistent Christian believes that the original Hebrew text is infallible. The translation process isn’t, and therefore the KJV is just another translation, not the final word.

[@strangersandpilgrims3812]

Sebastian Lopez the consistent Christian believes Psalm 12:6-7 and believes that Inspiration without preservation is worthless, just as is preservation without inspiration

[@EnderTitan]

Sons of Thunder Baptist And the original Hebrew/Greek texts (dunno why I didn’t type Greek the first time) were both inspired and preserved by God. As Frank Turek explains: in making copies of the originals early on, God preserved those texts. Translations just help people to understand the Word of God in their native tongues.

[@joelrodriguez1232]

exactly!

[@strangersandpilgrims3812]

Sebastian Lopez so where are the preserved words of God today, can I read them somewhere?

[@the7thage576]

GOD INVENTED THE FIRST BLOCKCHAIN!

[@kolaa4163]

The7thage what is a block chain?

[@daniellazo888]

@@kolaa4163 Look into bitcoin.

[@lawrencefitzgerald4744]

Lol. I never thought of that!

[@yuliuswijayanto843]

Hahahaha

[@WillBilly425]

Not so much blockchain as invented decentralization!

[@yuliuswijayanto843]

I like how Frank deliver his argument

[@ox2kxj36]

u must have little intellect:P

[@MrJaldal]

@Joshua Philips He is right tho...Frank has no points and is avoiding the question.

[@MrJaldal]

@Joshua Philips I offered one: he is AVOIDING the QUESTION. No need to counter ANY of his points until he adresses the question that was really asked. I could go ahead and counter the stuff that he said if u would like me to ?

[@lulubeukes2296]

I have to disagree with you

[@daniapowell180]

Same

[@peanutnetwork]

This questions sounds more about King James Onlyism.

[@Matt_7896]

peanutnetwork apparently. 😂

[@mayito3334]

I didn't know that was a thing hahahaha

[@peanutnetwork]

Totally! lol There's a few youtube videos about it. I actually learned a lot from the refutations of KJV only.

[@markducharme9518]

Sometimes I wonder if the "holy kjv" doesn't preclude the Holy Spirit of Jesus *Himself* , in the mind of the "KJV only" folks.

[@thecontendingforthefaith]

I think his question could be summarized as, "Frank you say you believe in the law of non-contradiction, how can you not have a definite position when it comes to Bible translations, seeing all the Bibles subsequent to the KJV contain so many renderings of passages in contradiction to it? Cannot only one be correct then according to the law of non-contradiction?". Additionally he stated his personal view that he trusted the KJV. And honestly, myself having spent many many hours comparing the arguments and evidence for both sides, must conclude likewise!! I am working on putting an article together where I document my conclusions. It's kind of ironic, because I'm not a "KJV-onlyist" in the strictist sense, those I've tried to reach out to such as Samuel Gipp label me a heretic and wont return my calls, and yet I maintain without a doubt that it's the most reliable, honest, and spirit-filled translation, so I end up the enemy of both camps, the KJV-onlyist, and those in favor of the translations birthed out of the COUNTER-REFORMATION!!! But the main thing is, as the Lord Jesus Christ stated, "Ye shall know them by their fruits", one only need look as far as the complete omissions of verses, the robbing of the deity of Christ from others, the new-age-ecumenical-spiritualism twist applied to yet others, to know that those translations not based on the majority extant manuscripts are, at best inferior, at worse deceptive!

[@veekee75]

Very well explained. Really thank God for the works of Frank. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@ballsyougothacked5650]

Hello! I have some questions, i would be happy if you could answer them. I apologise for my bad English, it is not my first language. Here are the questions: 1. Does the bible say that the earth is 6000 years old? 2. Is the sabbath a ceremonial law? 3. Is Matthew 24 about the destruction of the second temple and Jerusalem or about the end times? And why did Jesus say that say: ''Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.'' (Matthew 24:20). Sabbatarians argue that Jesus mentioned the Sabbath in order that they might not sin and break the Sabbath which they believe that Christians are required to keep, is that true? 4. How can i feel more hungry to pray and thank God? 5. What is a lie? Do i sin if i say something that is wrong by accident or is it only a sin if i say something that i know is not true with the purpose of deceiving? Once again, i apologise for my bad english. I hope you could understand. I would really appreciate if you could answer these questions. Have a great day!

[@RyanGarrettMusic]

Wow...literally the first time someone arguing FOR Christianity made a completely legitimate and infallible point!!! I’m thoroughly impressed

[@repentstaythecourse5935]

Right??? he explained it infallibly and in under 4 minutes.

[@gln3276]

It's been 2000 years since Christ... There have been countless Christians who have made legitimate points before.. maybe this is just the first time you've heard one?

[@RyanGarrettMusic]

@@gln3276 in all my years of borderline obsession with religious history and conspiracies I’ve very rarely ever heard any points from the Christian side of the argument that held up when tested against the facts. Sure I haven’t heard every single point made by ever Christian since 2000 years ago but considering that out of the thousand upon thousands I’ve heard that that were baseless and debunkable and none swayed my views that’s gotta mean something. Don’t get me wrong I AM a Christian myself (a very strange and different kind of Christian) so no hate intended I just find that when debates happen Christian’s just say things like “Grace” and “faith” and quote some scripture and call it good when the other side comes with historical fact and/or science or even just timeline issues. I love Jesus. But I don’t trust the Bible enough to call it infallible

[@Sapientiaa]

@@RyanGarrettMusic Why don’t you spend time with scholars, philosophers, and scientists… At least seek them out online.

[@RyanGarrettMusic]

@@Sapientiaa I’ve spent loads of time with them through reading, viewing content like KZbin video seminars, documentaries ect…and it’s usually a bunch of running in circles

[@jhinovbot1603]

"Not preserving the original, preserves the original"

[@xtb3215]

It's true though

[@darwingomez9341]

That’s what threw me off so much lmao he almost made a solid point then tripped a bit

[@TheBanjoShowOfficial]

@@darwingomez9341 Think about you writing a letter to your friend, but you decide that that one might get lost in the mail, so you photocopy 4 extra versions of the same original, there will obviously be the differences of different ink and maybe some blotches appear, but if you have an ink blotch on copy 1, you can refer to copy 2 to look at the missing info. You can reliably discern what is missing from the copy of the original letter. This is predicated on the fact that you must assume the original translators were being honest and truthful in their translation of the original text, which is really not hard to come to as a conclusion. If you don't care about something, are you going to toil away day after day to do it for no reason? Probably not.

[@uzoegbeogu9617]

Great wisdom Frank...thank God for a guy like you!

[@remainhumble6432]

Listening to the question, I am at pains understanding the 'contradiction'... Its almost like nobody is looking for the Spirit behind the text but instead trying to follow the rule of the law which kills and condemns...

[@lulubeukes2296]

Isn't it suspicious that so much law does kill and condemn?

[@remainhumble6432]

@@lulubeukes2296 what do you mean?

[@remainhumble6432]

@We are Not Free Man kills. The law condemns. Christianity talks about a Saviour who redeems. This is all God's plan to give Man what he cannot have or earn... the right to be children of God and partake of the divine nature.

[@joeydoherty368]

@@remainhumble6432 “Do not fear them that can kill the body, but fear him who can kill both soul and body in hell.” “Therefore I will kill her children with death.” Are these statements referring to men killing men?

[@remainhumble6432]

@@joeydoherty368 You have plucked 2 verses (please reference them next time so we can look at context) which are pointing to God's justice. God is both just and merciful which may seem contradictory until you see what we ourselves are called to do with others (justice and grace appear contradictory yet they exist). Man has sinned and therefore deserves justice. In fact death for all of us is inevitable as we are all guilty. But those who understand that God also offers Mercy will fall on their knees and seek it. Man sins and his actions lead to death (deserved) and he will also hurt/kill other men (which those do not always deserve) . God is the judge who exacts justice (deserved by all men) but can also give Grace. You need to spend a bit more time thinking about this.

[@inukithesavage828]

The funny thing about these is that if an atheist brings them up you usually don't even have to explain. You just ask "What contradictions?" And nine times out of ten they go totally silent because they don't actually know. They're repeating something another atheist said.

[@neoneherefrom5836]

Or they are so far removed from renouncing faith that they don’t even remember anymore.

[@jonathannorris8226]

Your spirit IS saved. Your SOUL is being saved (mind will emotions). That is sanctification...the working OUT of your salvation through fear and trembling...IE Salvation and all its benefits WITHIN YOUR SPIRIT starting to affect your SOUL (you think differently, you renew your mind, your decisions change, your walking with Jesus now aware of His presence, your feelings change). This is the work of the Holy Spirit in the believers life. Praise God!

[@snicolle76]

Folks can argue the Word, but God has the final Word, keep it simple trust Him through faith. When I get confused and this world presses in around me, I choose to trust in Him!

[@mynamemeanslovepleasereadc6806]

When we read the teachings of Jesus in the gospels, and start to obey Him, we begin to understand the rest of the 62 books. Matthew 7:24-27, Mark 13:37, Luke 6:46-49, John 14:15

[@solomonalemu6953]

it is total of 81 books including the gospels. not 66.

[@jeziscricket4448]

@@solomonalemu6953 Your a gnostic.

[@Aaron-dq3xz]

@@solomonalemu6953 are you orthodox?

[@repentstaythecourse5935]

Frank really just blew that question out the water...that makes such sense as to why no one has the original...awesome!

[@onbored9627]

Well, marcion the heretic constructed the first new testament. The works in the bible are most all separate books that were compiled together, though there are letters as well. People think it's 1 book that fell out of heaven or something.

[@TheFberry100]

Mind BLOWN!!!

[@TechandStuff]

These people are just not willing to listen. He keeps on speaking.

[@lisaproctor7276]

Right. He asked his question then Frank is trying to answer

[@JohnDoe-bz3ci]

He should have addressed 1 Corinthians 1:18, which is the Scripture the guy mentioned. It might have helped clear things up for him a little.

[@DavidMarksmen1992]

Blew my mind. I've pondered this question for years, only receiving bullcrap answers.

[@daryltbctheblazingcyclone3136]

Same tho

[@markbales8594]

@@daryltbctheblazingcyclone3136 YES!!!

[@grandvianna8551]

Can someone explain to me how you get correct original writings from 4 writings that all contain errors

[@ateoforever7434]

Just toss a coin......

[@jack2333jy]

ALL PROBLEM STARTS HERE →New Testament Scripture Founded : basically from 2 Major Line of Scripture, 1 is older date and 1 line is later date that being mainly use for interpretation & translation in the Bible we use today.. I guess most Preacher will say older is closer to Origin. Is it thats the only Faith we hv to put on what Preachers or Scholars said OR we should first compare those bible versions and find out ourselves in the beginning ?? Of couse if we dont hv this bothering us it doesnt matter anyway right, until we start to have unanswer questions right.. I start up in NIV when i became Christian few years back. But One Day i got few question sudden pop out in my head which i dont understand - Why there are so many denomination of Churches in the world ? - Why there are so many Bible versions & which one shoud i read ? But later on no one can truly answer me & i come to and read this verse MATTHEW 7:7-8 Thats the 1st time i Pray to God for my unanswer questions.. Below is from God's Lead, Amen to it. Is was never about King James the only True Bible or The Final Authority. Is was about the words in the bible itself that has been corrupted in not an accidental way but it was purposely done. A very Good Example of 2 bible Verse at ( ISAIAH 14:12 & REVELATION 22:16 ) and Pls check all other MODERN VERSION BIBLE and compare it with King James Version. Who is Morning Star ? Who is Satan name before he Sin & Fallen ? Read carefully thru most modern version bible in these 2 verses and if we still think there are so many bible version out there is actually for our easier understanding reading convenience, then i suppose we can just pray to God to lead us to his Truth. If we think maybe is just one simple mistake in the verse, it can be acceptable, but i really have to say NO, because is not just this verse. There are alot more verses that was already being corrupted , misleading, changed of doctrine meaning and missing of verses. But of course All Bibles have minor mistakes such as spelling, Upper lower case or miss out a letter etc.. so for this is not what it meant corrupted or wrong doctrine meaning.. Of course choosing which bible or Church denomination does not affect our Belief in Christ and Get save as long we truly Admit we are sinners and Fully Trust on Jesus Christ for His Precious Blood was shed in the purpose to save us from damnation. But it do affects that we cant get the full truth of God's word and some teaching might be wrong not because of Different denomination but is because of not rightly dividing the truth of God's Word ( 2 TIMOTHY 2:15 ) Do pls compare this verse with other modern bible translation and read carefully does it meant the same meaning in its verse interpretation ? Think about it, brother & sister in Christ, what do God says what He will do to those who ADDS and TAKES AWAY his Words ? When God say so, does it mean God already Knew this will Happen or God just simply Expressing His thoughts ? REV 22.18-19 DEUTERONOMY 4:2 DEUTERONOMY 12:32 PROVERBS 30:5-:6 MATTHEW 22:29 MARK 7:13 MATTHEW 24:24 And i do Truly Believes Every Person that are A Faithful Christian & truly Believes on Jesus Christ would dont mind to search for & find out all the corrupted verses and would want to know why is it so & what to do about it. It is not about Hates or Loves who more, about who's right or wrong, who had higher educations, who had wrote more books, who are more famous or who i have been following for so long.. IS ALWAYS ABOUT THE TRUTH & THE WORDS OF GOD. As a True Christian we are always stand for the Truth of God's Word and thats the only matter. If we can read God says about how satan was created in a perfect way, beauty, clever and cunning, do we think he is our same standard or satan is higher standard than us human in flesh ?? So do Ask ourselves it is possible that satan have attack God's Word and trick us into the altered corrupted bible versions ? Does satan have these kind of wisdom ? *GEN 3:1-4 & EZEKIEL 28:12-15* Brother & Sister in Christ u can judge yourself. God never Force us since the beginning. The Free Will given to us & Thats what God's Grace all about 🤗 I Pray All Truth to be given to all Brother & Sister Christians by ALMIGHTY GOD Himself, may Peace & Love be our Faith in Christ, Amen 😇

[@Sam-fq5qu]

It doesn't necessarily mean all copies contained errors. He was just saying an example of a way to better preserve the original. Also, let's assume there are 10 copies and each one of them had errors. This still doesn't imply they all had the same errors.

[@wengel_eth]

@@jack2333jy the problem with comparing everything to the KJV in your argument is that you have to assume that the KJV is already an accurate translation to come to that conclusion. Accurate Bible translations is not a problem of theology but a problem of linguistics and language translation.

[@kurtgundy]

Grand Vianna, let me use a simple analogy. Suppose I write a letter and ask people to make 10 hand-written, word for word copies. Then we destroy the original. When we compare the copies, we find 9 of them a comma after a certain word. In the 10th copy the comma is missing in that place. Can we conclude the original had a comma in that place? Of course. Also, 9 copies spell a certain word correctly. The 10th has that word misspelled. Can we assume the original spelled it correctly? Of course. Using this "textual criticism" can we reconstruct the original? Can we trust it says what the original says? Of course. These are the kinds of errors (corruptions) that are typical. And this is why Frank says none of these errors affect a single doctrine of our faith. Even agnostic/atheist scholars (Bart Ehrman) agree. Now consider that there aren't 10 copies of the Bible. But tens of thousands. For those that disagree, it takes more faith to believe the Bible is unreliable. I dont have enough faith to be an atheist.

[@bryanferguson4927]

He's great at debating children.

[@dontwastetime5381]

Why

[@steelcarnivore8390]

What? This is a christian class and people have answers, what are you on about?

[@seeqr9]

@@steelcarnivore8390 it’s called ad hominem

[@glowheat4469]

Frank, you are truly gifted.

[@HowTwo007]

the mental gymnastics here is hilarious By him saying the original is no longer around. That means that all the bibles we have today, might be the word of god or might not be. No one knows for sure. second, this example is poor, he is talking about contradictions between books. what about contradictions within the same books. Different narratives of the things jesus says and does between mathew mark luke and john. As well as numerous numerical errors. How are those "all part of gods plan". you cannot reconcile these or know what the exact answer is. If 4 people came to the police with 4 different stories of a crime scene, and i had to judge which was right just form what they said, that would be impossible. One might be right. Or none might be right. Or each person might have certain details right in some way or another Why would god purpose fully make it hard for his follower to understand his message

[@glowheat4469]

You are using about % .0005 of the biblical evidence to make a point. Context, context. Please!!

[@HowTwo007]

@@glowheat4469 the existence of even 1 error in the bible should instantly call into question the entire book. How do you know that the fundamental aspects of it have not changed, knowing that the council of nicea was when the idea of the trinity was first started. ANd the bible modified overtime to suit the new narrative The original book was not in english. It was in aramic or greek. Translated over centuries and modified so much that there are numerous versions, as well as differences within it. If knowing all this you still believe bible is the words of god. Good luck

[@glowheat4469]

@@HowTwo007 I think all believers can agree the core of the Bible is, Jesus Christ. Cover to It comes back to Christ. The entire book of Isaiah was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. They have found little difference comparing it to current Bibles. The Bible is inspired by God but down through the ages errors were made but, the whole doctrine is unchanged. Compare the Living Bible with a King James Bible, different wording but same context. I could spend years explaining it, but the same in the end. Jesus is Lord.

[@HowTwo007]

@@glowheat4469 it is physically impossible for you to know that the whole doctrine is intact, without the original. Finding certain pieces from jesus time, only confirms those specific parts. It does not confirm that the entire book doctrine is correct. And the contradictions across the different gospels confirms what i am saying/ But what you are saying now is bible is not the word of god but has doctrines that you believe are from god. Also nowhere in the bible does jesus say unambiguously, "i am god" or "worship me" as a matter of fact jesus says Mark 10:18, Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. literally separating him self from god

[@daniellazo888]

He didn't answer the question. He just presented what he wanted to present, but avoided the question.

[@matiastorres9849]

Those contradictions are just not important, that's the answer.

[@yamiyo6050]

He did answer it

[@martinmystery7258]

Basically the answer he gave was that if the original work was change then all they have to do is look at copies of the orginal work to see any changes were made.

[@joshuagalvez9678]

Matías Titanico the whole religion is based off a perfect bible where the imperfections and contradictions don’t matter because they don’t

[@MrJaldal]

Like all theist do, all of the time.

[@baypointconjuntoresidencia5492]

I believe in the word of GOD, Yes He is reall in my soul.

[@lorenzomurrone2430]

I facepalm every time I hear the argument about 1 Cor. 1.18, about the difference between "we are being saved" and "we are saved". First of all, in that point there is no textual variant: _all_ the manuscripts agree that the verbal form is σῳζομένοις, which translates to "for [us], who are being saved". The funny thing is that here the KJV isn't wrong either. If KJVO's bothered to study the language of the translation they worship, they would know that "to be" is a stative verb: as such, stative verbs could not, in "traditional English" (no, not only middle English, technically this is still a grammatical rule), have the gerundive form. So what the KJV is here saying is _precisely_ what the other editions based on the critical text are saying. A KJV English equivalent of the modern "we are saved" would have probably been "we have been saved", though this is just a possibility. One thing is sure, however: both the RT and the CT agree that the word is σῳζομένοις.

[@davidesber918]

so is it we are saved or are being saved?

[@lorenzomurrone2430]

@@davidesber918 being

[@129Slayer]

I like how the KJ says "are saved". But at the same time, that was written to the church which was growing and still is. There are people that are gonna come to faith in Christ today, or this weekend, or next month. That's what I see in the words "being saved". I know I'm part of His church, but God wants more.

[@bucsboy78]

Biker4Christ SFFS , salvation is scripture is : past, present and future. Salvation is all three. Not just the past when we given ourselves to God. But the Bible mostly speaks of future salvation. Feel free to glance and read. My point. Me being saved and the process of me being saved is similar in this one point. My salvation isn’t guaranteed but as Paul’s says: continue to run your race. As long as I continue to run the race as one of Gods children. Myself in the process of being saved and me being saved at that point in the race is the same. Hope that helps. Take care

[@jack2333jy]

ALL PROBLEM STARTS HERE →New Testament Scripture Founded : basically from 2 Major Line of Scripture, 1 is older date and 1 line is later date that being mainly use for interpretation & translation in the Bible we use today.. I guess most Preacher will say older is closer to Origin. Is it thats the only Faith we hv to put on what Preachers or Scholars said OR we should first compare those bible versions and find out ourselves in the beginning ?? Of couse if we dont hv this bothering us it doesnt matter anyway right, until we start to have unanswer questions right.. I start up in NIV when i became Christian few years back. But One Day i got few question sudden pop out in my head which i dont understand - Why there are so many denomination of Churches in the world ? - Why there are so many Bible versions & which one shoud i read ? But later on no one can truly answer me & i come to and read this verse MATTHEW 7:7-8 Thats the 1st time i Pray to God for my unanswer questions.. Below is from God's Lead, Amen to it. Is was never about King James the only True Bible or The Final Authority. Is was about the words in the bible itself that has been corrupted in not an accidental way but it was purposely done. A very Good Example of 2 bible Verse at ( ISAIAH 14:12 & REVELATION 22:16 ) and Pls check all other MODERN VERSION BIBLE and compare it with King James Version. Who is Morning Star ? Who is Satan name before he Sin & Fallen ? Read carefully thru most modern version bible in these 2 verses and if we still think there are so many bible version out there is actually for our easier understanding reading convenience, then i suppose we can just pray to God to lead us to his Truth. If we think maybe is just one simple mistake in the verse, it can be acceptable, but i really have to say NO, because is not just this verse. There are alot more verses that was already being corrupted , misleading, changed of doctrine meaning and missing of verses. But of course All Bibles have minor mistakes such as spelling, Upper lower case or miss out a letter etc.. so for this is not what it meant corrupted or wrong doctrine meaning.. Of course choosing which bible or Church denomination does not affect our Belief in Christ and Get save as long we truly Admit we are sinners and Fully Trust on Jesus Christ for His Precious Blood was shed in the purpose to save us from damnation. But it do affects that we cant get the full truth of God's word and some teaching might be wrong not because of Different denomination but is because of not rightly dividing the truth of God's Word ( 2 TIMOTHY 2:15 ) Do pls compare this verse with other modern bible translation and read carefully does it meant the same meaning in its verse interpretation ? Think about it, brother & sister in Christ, what do God says what He will do to those who ADDS and TAKES AWAY his Words ? When God say so, does it mean God already Knew this will Happen or God just simply Expressing His thoughts ? REV 22.18-19 DEUTERONOMY 4:2 DEUTERONOMY 12:32 PROVERBS 30:5-:6 MATTHEW 22:29 MARK 7:13 MATTHEW 24:24 And i do Truly Believes Every Person that are A Faithful Christian & truly Believes on Jesus Christ would dont mind to search for & find out all the corrupted verses and would want to know why is it so & what to do about it. It is not about Hates or Loves who more, about who's right or wrong, who had higher educations, who had wrote more books, who are more famous or who i have been following for so long.. IS ALWAYS ABOUT THE TRUTH & THE WORDS OF GOD. As a True Christian we are always stand for the Truth of God's Word and thats the only matter. If we can read God says about how satan was created in a perfect way, beauty, clever and cunning, do we think he is our same standard or satan is higher standard than us human in flesh ?? So do Ask ourselves it is possible that satan have attack God's Word and trick us into the altered corrupted bible versions ? Does satan have these kind of wisdom ? *GEN 3:1-4 & EZEKIEL 28:12-15* Brother & Sister in Christ u can judge yourself. God never Force us since the beginning. The Free Will given to us & Thats what God's Grace all about 🤗 I Pray All Truth to be given to all Brother & Sister Christians by ALMIGHTY GOD Himself, may Peace & Love be our Faith in Christ, Amen 😇

[@8thMusketeer]

totally off topic but i wish i had that guy's biceps

[@ultraniusmaximus1536]

They're a little on the small side.

[@MaevrickOfficial]

Then lift something

[@8thMusketeer]

@@MaevrickOfficial I did. I just lifted my fork to eat dinner. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

[@MaevrickOfficial]

@@8thMusketeer 🤣 you're on the right track, just keep lifting that fork.... eventually

[@cherissemayers6031]

Forgets leg days though

[@prizefighter7607]

Dang, I thought this was going to be about the contractions within the Bible, such as who asked King David to take the census, or who visited Jesus’ tomb, what did they see, what were they told to do, and what did they do.

[@khomotsokgomo1538]

The one who asked king David to take the census was the devil. Take note that when God turns against someone, He gives you away to evil spirits, the devil immediately takes a stand to deceive. Remember that the Bible says God cannot be tempted nor does he tempt. So He gave David away to the devil to tempt him. That's why it says God's anger was against David and the other part says the devil rose against him. Understand?

[@prizefighter7607]

@@khomotsokgomo1538 2 Samuel 24 says God moved David to take the census, not Satan. So are you wrong when you said the devil made David do it?

[@saabajoe]

Well those would have created bigger ripples than their cup could handle... surely.

[@haachamachama7]

@@prizefighter7607 1 Chronicles 21 says Satan did. I could only assume God allowed David to be tempted by Satan to take the census. Atheists are quick to say something's a contradiction, huh.

[@Feriin]

The problem with Contradictions in the Bible is that there are no Contradictions in the Bible.

[@chad969]

Can you help me reconcile these two passages? According to Matthew 28, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary encountered an angel when then they first went to the tomb. The angel told them that Jesus had risen, and then on their way back they ran into Jesus. However, according to John 20:2, when Mary came back from the tomb she thought that someone had stolen the body. How should one harmonize this?

[@raymondgrimaldi9207]

You better re-read your Bible

[@NN-gk2sm]

Fank is saying - 10 people says, 2+2=5. One man says 2+2=4. The correct answer should be 2+2=5.

[@jack2333jy]

ALL PROBLEM STARTS HERE →New Testament Scripture Founded : basically from 2 Major Line of Scripture, 1 is older date and 1 line is later date that being mainly use for interpretation & translation in the Bible we use today.. I guess most Preacher will say older is closer to Origin. Is it thats the only Faith we hv to put on what Preachers or Scholars said OR we should first compare those bible versions and find out ourselves in the beginning ?? Of couse if we dont hv this bothering us it doesnt matter anyway right, until we start to have unanswer questions right.. I start up in NIV when i became Christian few years back. But One Day i got few question sudden pop out in my head which i dont understand - Why there are so many denomination of Churches in the world ? - Why there are so many Bible versions & which one shoud i read ? But later on no one can truly answer me & i come to and read this verse MATTHEW 7:7-8 Thats the 1st time i Pray to God for my unanswer questions.. Below is from God's Lead, Amen to it. Is was never about King James the only True Bible or The Final Authority. Is was about the words in the bible itself that has been corrupted in not an accidental way but it was purposely done. A very Good Example of 2 bible Verse at ( ISAIAH 14:12 & REVELATION 22:16 ) and Pls check all other MODERN VERSION BIBLE and compare it with King James Version. Who is Morning Star ? Who is Satan name before he Sin & Fallen ? Read carefully thru most modern version bible in these 2 verses and if we still think there are so many bible version out there is actually for our easier understanding reading convenience, then i suppose we can just pray to God to lead us to his Truth. If we think maybe is just one simple mistake in the verse, it can be acceptable, but i really have to say NO, because is not just this verse. There are alot more verses that was already being corrupted , misleading, changed of doctrine meaning and missing of verses. But of course All Bibles have minor mistakes such as spelling, Upper lower case or miss out a letter etc.. so for this is not what it meant corrupted or wrong doctrine meaning.. Of course choosing which bible or Church denomination does not affect our Belief in Christ and Get save as long we truly Admit we are sinners and Fully Trust on Jesus Christ for His Precious Blood was shed in the purpose to save us from damnation. But it do affects that we cant get the full truth of God's word and some teaching might be wrong not because of Different denomination but is because of not rightly dividing the truth of God's Word ( 2 TIMOTHY 2:15 ) Do pls compare this verse with other modern bible translation and read carefully does it meant the same meaning in its verse interpretation ? Think about it, brother & sister in Christ, what do God says what He will do to those who ADDS and TAKES AWAY his Words ? When God say so, does it mean God already Knew this will Happen or God just simply Expressing His thoughts ? REV 22.18-19 DEUTERONOMY 4:2 DEUTERONOMY 12:32 PROVERBS 30:5-:6 MATTHEW 22:29 MARK 7:13 MATTHEW 24:24 And i do Truly Believes Every Person that are A Faithful Christian & truly Believes on Jesus Christ would dont mind to search for & find out all the corrupted verses and would want to know why is it so & what to do about it. It is not about Hates or Loves who more, about who's right or wrong, who had higher educations, who had wrote more books, who are more famous or who i have been following for so long.. IS ALWAYS ABOUT THE TRUTH & THE WORDS OF GOD. As a True Christian we are always stand for the Truth of God's Word and thats the only matter. If we can read God says about how satan was created in a perfect way, beauty, clever and cunning, do we think he is our same standard or satan is higher standard than us human in flesh ?? So do Ask ourselves it is possible that satan have attack God's Word and trick us into the altered corrupted bible versions ? Does satan have these kind of wisdom ? *GEN 3:1-4 & EZEKIEL 28:12-15* Brother & Sister in Christ u can judge yourself. God never Force us since the beginning. The Free Will given to us & Thats what God's Grace all about 🤗 I Pray All Truth to be given to all Brother & Sister Christians by ALMIGHTY GOD Himself, may Peace & Love be our Faith in Christ, Amen 😇

[@lawrenceeason8007]

I agree, it is a problem

[@danmarley2886]

No emphasis on the Holy Spirit, who leads us into all truth. No mention of the gifts for the equipping of the saints, so that we are not tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine. Without these you will never come to the knowledge of the truth, no matter how many translations and interpretations the publishers market to the church. Grow in grace and in the knowledge of God and of Christ.

[@markducharme9518]

Not to be a nitpicker but, the final word isn't the written bible, the final word, according to the Lord Himself, is from the Lord Himself. He said He would come back as the Holy Spirit & lead us into all truth, & not leave us orphans, & be with us always, neither leave us nor forsake us etc etc.

[@rubenj2869]

God’s mind is beyond ours and He transcends languages so he decided to leave us a little bit of him in the holy bible a compilation of books that took over a thousand years to get made THROUGH the creation responsible on managing this earth humans, to know and understand him and get salvation. Aleluya

[@DillonLoomis]

Hmm - Frank didn't quite answer the question. BEING saved (process) vs. IS saved (at moment of true belief) are WILDLY different. Catholic vs. Protestant different. Can anyone shed light on this?

[@95atnoon60]

Dillon Loomis Yes, believe I can. Both versions of being saved are illusory, and any god that would make being saved this confusing while simultaneously demanding that we understand him in order to saved is immoral, and not worth our time.

[@DillonLoomis]

95atnoon lol. Appreciate the response anyhow! The Bible also tells us to work out our salvation with fear and trembling (reverence and awe) - so we are to study the word and the Spirit for help. I've actually found the Bible to be incredibly clear believe it or not! I just did not know what this kid in the video was referring to. But I respect your thoughts as it's certainly the easy conclusion to come to. I was once also an unbeliever and not even getting into the existence for Jesus and the resurrection, I'd rather live my life with hope and joy in belief in Christ and then die being wrong rather than living as an atheist and openly choosing eternal separation from God at death. I'd just encourage you to keep an open mind and heart and don't shut the door on God forever. Eternity is an unfathomably long time lol. If you ever get to the point where you may be open to talk about your doubts and arguments I'd be happy to dialogue!

[@rrjkss3992]

Dillon Loomis the simple difference between catholic and Protestant is the Protestant faith was created by Martin Luther in 1516. They believe their going strictly by the Bible while Catholics go by the Bible along with church tradition. Catholics and orthodox are pretty much followers of Jesus. While Protestant are followers of Martin Luther. Lot of Protestant denomination have a Hate and disgust about the catholic faith. Which pretty much what they claim is false or they’re simply misinformed about the catholic faith which supposedly goes back to 33ad

[@DillonLoomis]

Jennifer Jackson Hey Jen! Thank you for your input. I've actually been studying the history of the church and the different denominations for an upcoming video series. Before I get into what I believe, do you mind if I ask you (I assume you are Catholic) - how do you get to heaven?

[@rrjkss3992]

Dillon Loomis use to be I’m atheist. But be aware that your doing actual church history and not Protestant revisionist church history

[@bitzahawk]

What does the Greek N.t. Say ? Is the word saved or saving , is it a participle?

[@joesteele3159]

In the Greek there are different tenses. The KJV translators didn't capture a lot of these tenses as effectively as today's translators. Being saved is more accurate to the older manuscripts than just saying saved. Also to point out if we are going to criticize the variations in the different text types we should look at the variations in the four gospels regardless of what translation we are reading.

[@cnault3244]

And since no originals exist for comparison, there is no way to know how accurate any translation is.

[@danielsugiyanto7760]

Great explanations. Thanks GOD. Hallelujah

[@ballsyougothacked5650]

Hello! I have some questions, i would be happy if you could answer them. I apologise for my bad English, it is not my first language. Here are the questions: 1. Does the bible say that the earth is 6000 years old? 2. Is the sabbath a ceremonial law? 3. Is Matthew 24 about the destruction of the second temple and Jerusalem or about the end times? And why did Jesus say that say: ''Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.'' (Matthew 24:20). Sabbatarians argue that Jesus mentioned the Sabbath in order that they might not sin and break the Sabbath which they believe that Christians are required to keep, is that true? 4. How can i feel more hungry to pray and thank God? 5. What is a lie? Do i sin if i say something that is wrong by accident or is it only a sin if i say something that i know is not true with the purpose of deceiving? Once again, i apologise for my bad english. I hope you could understand. I would really appreciate if you could answer these questions. Have a great day!

[@codezionjr]

So basically God invented Distributed Ledger Technology.

[@emmanuelbaruwa2335]

I love this argument

[@declan.mclean3857]

REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND!

[@jasonr6342]

SavedBYJesuses Blood lol sure

[@berzerkerjuice3947]

SavedBYJesuses Blood Prove it! Or STFU

[@declan.mclean3857]

It's 2018 A.D, the death After Who? It's history that Jesus rose from the dead, there were 500 witnesses. Even today there are testimonies of Miracles happening to Thousands of thousands of people, countless people. Even myself have witnessed the Same miracles as Jesus did in the bible. Just google these testimonies about Jesus, what have they got to gain by lying? Nothing! What Have i got to gain by lying? all I gain by saying these things is persecution and hate, nothing good do i gain from what I say. The Word of God has also predicted the future from 2 thousand years ago to NOW, do your research and you will see what I mean.

[@FL-Man78]

People been saying that for 2000 yrs and probably another 2000 more until the first man made or natural disaster wipes most of us out then youll call that judgement.

[@jalenwhite2520]

But how do you know they are 4 copy’s of the original if you haven’t seen the original?

[@raymondgrimaldi9207]

Easy now... you're using logic...and religion will have nothing to do with that

[@jalenwhite2520]

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[@1godonlyone119]

God is the ultimate authority.

[@Goodwinispeaktruth]

Turek is amazing

[@Justinsatiable]

The debate can be solved by just understanding that the Bible isn't infallible and all versions lack perfection

[@w.8424]

hehe

[@grantbartley483]

I tend to agree, but unfortunately it creates a problem for the authority of revelation, which I'm trying to get a position on. How do you tell the difference between the truths and the errors, and how do you justify believing the bits you do think true ? I think there are answers to these questions, but they're complex, and certainly not as simple as many everyday evangelicals would grasp. We should also make a distinction between any one copy of the Bible and the original text, and also be aware that God is communicating through human beings. My line is that the spiritual doctrines communicated by the original text are infallible because that is the inspired element.

[@Justinsatiable]

@@grantbartley483 I once would say the same but we don't have the originals so it seems a bit presumptuous to claim anything about the originals.

[@grantbartley483]

@@Justinsatiable I think the point that they can be largely reconstructed by comparing different copies we do have is quite plausible. If we can't reconstruct them exactly, we can have a good idea of a lot of what they would have said.

[@oreally8605]

Says you the atheist.

[@stephanyortiz6001]

People need to understand that studying the bible and studying apologetic's are two different things. One is the study of the word of God for the purpose of growth of you spiritual life, and the other is proper defense of your faith. Easy way to proof this is simple. Look at the debate of Ken Ham vs Bill Nye, and you will see that Bill Nye mops the floor with Ham reasoning, and then look at the debate of Frank vs Hitch, or DeSouza vs Hitch, or Ravy vs Ben. I believe in today's society Apologetic and Good Bible knowledge are both equally needed.

[@Raz0rIG]

I'd actually say Bill Nye never really addresses Ham's arguments.

[@recardooneal9900]

@@Raz0rIG yea Ham stumbles a lot verbally but just like with Hitchens, Bill Nye dances around questions and resorts to insults.

[@WiseManByrd]

Glad this was posted. I get tired of atheists saying the Bible is inconsistent and has contradictions in it when they don’t really understand or know the Bible themselves. How can you disprove something when you can’t and don’t understand what’s really written in it and better yet don’t believe in it. There was good dialogue between Turek and the other guy. Turek broke it down well.

[@pablotavares2502]

Wise-Man Byrd well said brother in Christ

[@dederhem2479]

Wise-Man Byrd How can you disprove something that can not be disproven anyway? You need to prove that it’s true and not just a bunch of stories before expecting anyone to take it seriously.

[@bearpio92]

It's true what the atheist say, the bible isn't infallible snd in errant that alone is a doctrine, but so what doesn't mean there isn't a God or it isn't inspired. They just like to use that to discredit God, nothing in this world is perfect only in the world after. If you don't see incpnsistencies and contradictories then your in denial.

[@dederhem2479]

bearpio92 No we use it to show it’s not inerrant. Recognising there’s flaws in it is one of the first steps in realising it is not the word of any god. If there’s flaws in it then what else isn’t correct in it? How can you trust it at all? It’s not an attack against god. It’s pointing out an imposter.

[@WiseManByrd]

Dede Rhem: it is attack against God. You can’t water that down. There is no imposter when it comes to the Holy Bible. There maybe false bibles out there but the holy bible on all its many translations can be traced back to the original manuscript or language it was written in and that is the Hebrew Bible and the earliest translation in Greek.

[@daniapowell180]

Halleujah 🙏🙌

[@Darkri56789]

That makes so much sense thank you.

[@andres1375]

I would really like to know if you can help get my mind across the contradiction of Judas’ death. In Mathew 27:5 Judas throws away the money and hangs himself. But in Acts 1:18 it says he purchased a field and then fell and his insides burst open… this is from the same version. Im really struggling with this one. Please help.

[@SharpStyleSavvy]

Actually it goes like this... Matthew written Matthew= eye witness telling what happned. Acts written by Luke(Paul's assistant) = written by public investigation (2nd hand information) So chronology goes like this.... 1. Im matthew he goes up and hangs himself. After decompsing his body falls off the rope and brusts Open. 2. Im acts (as people heared/saw) his body laying on ground, popularized that he fell and brusted. . . So u see both accounts are more of contrast rather than contradictory! Remember Acts were written wayy later... So acts is just tell what was popular bw ppl at the time.

[@LearnFromTheLight]

@@SharpStyleSavvy I’m only seeing humans writing the Bible here. So not the words of god 🤔 Don’t know if I want to base my belief on that..

[@sethfrazer7404]

Anyone with a basic education in New Testament Greek can tell you that the KJV falls short plenty of times when it comes to literal translation. It actually ignores significant prepositions in places for the sake of sounding more poetic and majestic. This is why you can’t act like Elizabethan English can fully vouch for what was intended to be said in Koine Greek. Sorry KJV-only people

[@MarkNOTW]

Seth Frazer exactly

[@JOHNch4.v.v.7to10]

So then, if an English speaking person cannot be 100% certain that any one bible that they hold in their hands is the pure word of God, then Jesus lied when He said, "...but my words shall not pass away." (Matt. 24:35). And God the Father also lied in Prov. 30:5-6, Psalm 12:6-7, 18:30, 1 Peter 1:24-25, etc. So, the question is this: Why would I believe in the "god of the bibles ", since he lies and can't even keep his promises about his own writings/words? THAT'S precisely why the KJV is the pure word of God in the English language, because the God Almighty DOES keep His promises and His word is pure and trustworthy! That makes Seth a liar who lies about the word of God.

[@sethfrazer7404]

Timothy Yakich You are arguing in circles! 1. Notice how you did not even attempt to debunk my initial argument, probably because you are clearly uneducated and don’t know what you’re talking about. The KJV ignores prepositions in certain places for the sake of sounding more poetic. That means it’s incredibly misleading theologically in several places. For God sake, Joseph Smith read a KJV with Apocrypha, and he plagiarized it to write the Book of Mormon (the name “Nephi” comes from 2 Maccabees 1:36) 2. I did not say God doesn’t keep His promise. His Word transcends all language, even the Greek and Hebrew it was written in. However, if we are to adequately apply His Word in English, then we have to adequately understand the Greek and Hebrew, since He chose to use these languages as the vessel for His Word, which requires more literal translations. And this is why the KJV is wrong. Because, again, Elizabethan English is very different from Koine Greek. Man’s fallibility does not mean God and Jesus lie. You are presupposing that a perfect translation in English exists, it doesn’t. This is why the Word transcends the language of the translator; the wisdom of the Lord can and does outshine any misapplication by members of the post-apostolic Church.

[@JOHNch4.v.v.7to10]

Seth, you keep saying that the KJV is wrong, yet you give no examples. Now, according to your argument you want me to believe that you're better qualified to determine what is wrong with the KJV than the 56 men that spent 7 years of their lives translating it. Not a chance. You're the one who doesn't understand that God created language - and yes languages do evolve - but the Holy Scriptures only had to be translated from three languages (Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koinai Greek) to English. You make it seem as though it's an impossible task. A task to tough for the translators. But not for you!! Now, you have it all figured out. So, since you're so well versed in all those languages, why don't you just translate the Bible correctly yourself?

[@sethfrazer7404]

Timothy Yakich You mean the Roman Catholics that presupposed church authority over authority of Scripture (Erasmus)? That gained a lot of their Theology in apocryphal books? Lol okay I’ll give you an example. “If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.” ‭‭John‬ ‭15:7-8‬ ‭KJV‬‬ KJV says “abide.” The actual Greek word is μείνω which means “remain.” KJV says “in you” But the preposition εν surrounds μείνω in the dative case. That means εν is better translated as “by you.” KJV says, “ye shall ask what ye will.” But the Greek is not future indicative, it’s future passive. So it’s really just “ASK whatever you WISH” (θέλημα means “will,” But “θέλετε” is the word used.) KJV says “it shall be done unto you.” But the preposition επί which means “upon” or “unto” is nowhere there. The word γενήσεται is used, which mean “to come to.” It’s COMING, implying it’s already done, not doing or being done. KJV says “so shall ye be my disciples.” But the Greek says γένησθε, which in the case used implies a more of commandment as “BECOME My disciples” You have to really split hairs to see why the KJV is wrong.

[@bobbyrice2858]

2 Corinthians 4:3-4 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, [4] in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they will not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

[@freekoolaid5721]

Totally dodged the question here.

[@Matt_7896]

freekoolaid obviously. Because Frank is not a textual scholar. Either way, he did good.

[@freekoolaid5721]

Matthew Tablazon irrelevant. the guy was asking one thing frank purpose ignored it and ran his material to avoid the point the kid was making. Gloss it over all you want.

[@Matt_7896]

Yeah, I got the memo. It's because the guy just wants to show off his KJVO position. Not really asking anything sensible at all. 😆

[@freekoolaid5721]

Matthew Tablazon and here you are doing the same as frank, not surprised.

[@Matt_7896]

Well, aren't you here for the same reason as the guy also? Parading your KJV movement. Not surprised. :P

[@jennifercarrico681]

There most certainly is a major contradiction that affects doctrine. Predestination vs john 3:16

[@CarlosGomez-gj5tg]

Jennifer Carrico Have you ever heard of compatibilism?

[@jennifercarrico681]

Carlos Gomez Please do tell how these two verses are compatible.

[@CarlosGomez-gj5tg]

Short story, we freely choose our actions but our actions won't interfere with God's plan. Quick example (sorry for being hyperbolic): you freely choose to murder a person that God wants alive. God keeps the person alive. You freely chose to pull the triger but God chooses the outcome. Scriptures like Romans 9 that people refer to when thet talk about predestination, Romans 9 is actually talking about Israel's election as a group of people.. Not individuals... Key verse for that is in Romans 11:28 Some people say it's necessary to read a whole chapter to understand the context of a verse. Sometimes it's necessary to read the whole book in order to understand the context of a single verse. In this case the book of Romans

[@jennifercarrico681]

Carlos Gomez There are tons of verses that indicates the Bible fully supports predestination. Of everyone.

[@CarlosGomez-gj5tg]

There are also tons of verses that indicate we have free will. The Bible teaches both; however, they do not contradict each other as I explained above

[@TheDiamond872]

Look up "Quiz Show (Bible Contradictions)"

[@johns294]

Turek is very adept at making things that are obviously challenging sound logical and cohesive ....its a learned talent that very few apologist actually master.

[@walter1383]

I think the fellows issue with the apparent contradiction between one translation's "we are saved" and the KJV's "being saved" all just boils down to the grammar of the time being different than our own. The word 'being' can mean 'becoming', or it can mean 'is already' depending upon the context. And as I look back over what I've just typed before posting, I've just realized that I used the word 'being' in the latter context in the first sentence without even recognizing it at the time. XD

[@paling1872]

Yes but there's more of those contradictions that are not only words, like the Luke and Matthew issue, because Luke saw 2 angels at the resurrection, while Matthew saw only 1

[@remainhumble6432]

@@paling1872 hello there... These are actual issues you get with actual eyewitness accounts. Those small details tell you that the stories are not corroborated accounts but actual accounts told by eyewitnesses. Errors creep in but the main story remain the same. Look into that too. This is proof of authenticity rather than 'inconsistencies ' as you call them. Details that do not alter the important bits that the eyewitnesses don't miss.

[@paling1872]

@@remainhumble6432 yeah but the eye whitenesses had differing accounts, making it an inconsistency, not everything is just an error, there are actual faulty points

[@remainhumble6432]

@@paling1872 Not really, the accounts actually complement each other. Number of angels or women simply mean there was/were women and angels. It changes nothing to the overall story.

[@Lcirilo10]

@@remainhumble6432 the different perspective of eye witnesses actually proves more than disproves. For example: A murder happens and one guy says a guy in red shot shot a man and drove off in a yellow car. Another guy says a a guy in blue shot a man and drove off in a yellow car. And another guy says a man in green shot a man and drove off in a red car. This most certainty proves that’s a man shot another man and drove off in a car. Because in times of “awe” perceptions can vary which has been proven with different eye witness accounts for different Trauma scenarios. But no matter the circumstances at the moment, something that was for sure interpreted was that someone shot someone and drove off in a car and that is all you need, to solve a murder for say.

[@craigdennison4951]

Jesus loves you!!

[@rlyle5804]

Two issues. first the question really wasnt answered and second, maybe let the questioner finish the question

[@bucsboy78]

R Lyle , salvation is scripture is : past, present and future. Salvation is all three. Not just the past when we given ourselves to God. But the Bible mostly speaks of future salvation. Feel free to glance and read. My point. Me being saved and the process of me being saved is similar in this one point. My salvation isn’t guaranteed but as Paul’s says: continue to run your race. As long as I continue to run the race as one of Gods children. Myself in the process of being saved and me being saved at that point in the race is the same. Hope that helps. Take care

[@jack2333jy]

ALL PROBLEM STARTS HERE →New Testament Scripture Founded : basically from 2 Major Line of Scripture, 1 is older date and 1 line is later date that being mainly use for interpretation & translation in the Bible we use today.. I guess most Preacher will say older is closer to Origin. Is it thats the only Faith we hv to put on what Preachers or Scholars said OR we should first compare those bible versions and find out ourselves in the beginning ?? Of couse if we dont hv this bothering us it doesnt matter anyway right, until we start to have unanswer questions right.. I start up in NIV when i became Christian few years back. But One Day i got few question sudden pop out in my head which i dont understand - Why there are so many denomination of Churches in the world ? - Why there are so many Bible versions & which one shoud i read ? But later on no one can truly answer me & i come to and read this verse MATTHEW 7:7-8 Thats the 1st time i Pray to God for my unanswer questions.. Below is from God's Lead, Amen to it. Is was never about King James the only True Bible or The Final Authority. Is was about the words in the bible itself that has been corrupted in not an accidental way but it was purposely done. A very Good Example of 2 bible Verse at ( ISAIAH 14:12 & REVELATION 22:16 ) and Pls check all other MODERN VERSION BIBLE and compare it with King James Version. Who is Morning Star ? Who is Satan name before he Sin & Fallen ? Read carefully thru most modern version bible in these 2 verses and if we still think there are so many bible version out there is actually for our easier understanding reading convenience, then i suppose we can just pray to God to lead us to his Truth. If we think maybe is just one simple mistake in the verse, it can be acceptable, but i really have to say NO, because is not just this verse. There are alot more verses that was already being corrupted , misleading, changed of doctrine meaning and missing of verses. But of course All Bibles have minor mistakes such as spelling, Upper lower case or miss out a letter etc.. so for this is not what it meant corrupted or wrong doctrine meaning.. Of course choosing which bible or Church denomination does not affect our Belief in Christ and Get save as long we truly Admit we are sinners and Fully Trust on Jesus Christ for His Precious Blood was shed in the purpose to save us from damnation. But it do affects that we cant get the full truth of God's word and some teaching might be wrong not because of Different denomination but is because of not rightly dividing the truth of God's Word ( 2 TIMOTHY 2:15 ) Do pls compare this verse with other modern bible translation and read carefully does it meant the same meaning in its verse interpretation ? Think about it, brother & sister in Christ, what do God says what He will do to those who ADDS and TAKES AWAY his Words ? When God say so, does it mean God already Knew this will Happen or God just simply Expressing His thoughts ? REV 22.18-19 DEUTERONOMY 4:2 DEUTERONOMY 12:32 PROVERBS 30:5-:6 MATTHEW 22:29 MARK 7:13 MATTHEW 24:24 And i do Truly Believes Every Person that are A Faithful Christian & truly Believes on Jesus Christ would dont mind to search for & find out all the corrupted verses and would want to know why is it so & what to do about it. It is not about Hates or Loves who more, about who's right or wrong, who had higher educations, who had wrote more books, who are more famous or who i have been following for so long.. IS ALWAYS ABOUT THE TRUTH & THE WORDS OF GOD. As a True Christian we are always stand for the Truth of God's Word and thats the only matter. If we can read God says about how satan was created in a perfect way, beauty, clever and cunning, do we think he is our same standard or satan is higher standard than us human in flesh ?? So do Ask ourselves it is possible that satan have attack God's Word and trick us into the altered corrupted bible versions ? Does satan have these kind of wisdom ? *GEN 3:1-4 & EZEKIEL 28:12-15* Brother & Sister in Christ u can judge yourself. God never Force us since the beginning. The Free Will given to us & Thats what God's Grace all about 🤗 I Pray All Truth to be given to all Brother & Sister Christians by ALMIGHTY GOD Himself, may Peace & Love be our Faith in Christ, Amen 😇

[@rlyle5804]

@@kimbanton4398 It isnt about "liking" a question. Maybe you should actually watch the video?

[@davidn9391]

How does he have a ready made PowerPoint slide for questions that are supposed to be randomly asked

[@priscilla9851]

because they are commonly asked questions.. you can see him using the same slides to answer others' questions in other events

[@KC-fb8ql]

He’s been answering the same questions for years. Frank is a traveling salesman. He knows his product.

[@celticwarrior1365]

Read carefully the serpent's discourse with Eve in Genesis chapter 3, "Yea, hath God said.......?" and consider this question, ' has God preserved his Word down the centuries or not? Today's modern translations based upon corrupted texts say "NO, as God's Word is evolving and we ( with all our modern ingenuity ) are getting closer to the truth!

[@Actuary1776]

Says the guy who believes a snake talked to a woman.

[@jack2333jy]

ALL PROBLEM STARTS HERE →New Testament Scripture Founded : basically from 2 Major Line of Scripture, 1 is older date and 1 line is later date that being mainly use for interpretation & translation in the Bible we use today.. I guess most Preacher will say older is closer to Origin. Is it thats the only Faith we hv to put on what Preachers or Scholars said OR we should first compare those bible versions and find out ourselves in the beginning ?? Of couse if we dont hv this bothering us it doesnt matter anyway right, until we start to have unanswer questions right.. I start up in NIV when i became Christian few years back. But One Day i got few question sudden pop out in my head which i dont understand - Why there are so many denomination of Churches in the world ? - Why there are so many Bible versions & which one shoud i read ? But later on no one can truly answer me & i come to and read this verse MATTHEW 7:7-8 Thats the 1st time i Pray to God for my unanswer questions.. Below is from God's Lead, Amen to it. Is was never about King James the only True Bible or The Final Authority. Is was about the words in the bible itself that has been corrupted in not an accidental way but it was purposely done. A very Good Example of 2 bible Verse at ( ISAIAH 14:12 & REVELATION 22:16 ) and Pls check all other MODERN VERSION BIBLE and compare it with King James Version. Who is Morning Star ? Who is Satan name before he Sin & Fallen ? Read carefully thru most modern version bible in these 2 verses and if we still think there are so many bible version out there is actually for our easier understanding reading convenience, then i suppose we can just pray to God to lead us to his Truth. If we think maybe is just one simple mistake in the verse, it can be acceptable, but i really have to say NO, because is not just this verse. There are alot more verses that was already being corrupted , misleading, changed of doctrine meaning and missing of verses. But of course All Bibles have minor mistakes such as spelling, Upper lower case or miss out a letter etc.. so for this is not what it meant corrupted or wrong doctrine meaning.. Of course choosing which bible or Church denomination does not affect our Belief in Christ and Get save as long we truly Admit we are sinners and Fully Trust on Jesus Christ for His Precious Blood was shed in the purpose to save us from damnation. But it do affects that we cant get the full truth of God's word and some teaching might be wrong not because of Different denomination but is because of not rightly dividing the truth of God's Word ( 2 TIMOTHY 2:15 ) Do pls compare this verse with other modern bible translation and read carefully does it meant the same meaning in its verse interpretation ? Think about it, brother & sister in Christ, what do God says what He will do to those who ADDS and TAKES AWAY his Words ? When God say so, does it mean God already Knew this will Happen or God just simply Expressing His thoughts ? REV 22.18-19 DEUTERONOMY 4:2 DEUTERONOMY 12:32 PROVERBS 30:5-:6 MATTHEW 22:29 MARK 7:13 MATTHEW 24:24 And i do Truly Believes Every Person that are A Faithful Christian & truly Believes on Jesus Christ would dont mind to search for & find out all the corrupted verses and would want to know why is it so & what to do about it. It is not about Hates or Loves who more, about who's right or wrong, who had higher educations, who had wrote more books, who are more famous or who i have been following for so long.. IS ALWAYS ABOUT THE TRUTH & THE WORDS OF GOD. As a True Christian we are always stand for the Truth of God's Word and thats the only matter. If we can read God says about how satan was created in a perfect way, beauty, clever and cunning, do we think he is our same standard or satan is higher standard than us human in flesh ?? So do Ask ourselves it is possible that satan have attack God's Word and trick us into the altered corrupted bible versions ? Does satan have these kind of wisdom ? *GEN 3:1-4 & EZEKIEL 28:12-15* Brother & Sister in Christ u can judge yourself. God never Force us since the beginning. The Free Will given to us & Thats what God's Grace all about 🤗 I Pray All Truth to be given to all Brother & Sister Christians by ALMIGHTY GOD Himself, may Peace & Love be our Faith in Christ, Amen 😇

[@ExperienceEric]

@@Actuary1776 Says a dishonest troll. The text says a serpent talked to a woman, and it was changed into a snake as punishment by God. The text also plainly teaches the serpent was Satan himself, not just some animal.

[@PreDustined]

I wouldn't argue that but I would argue the traditional text or textus receptus priority which does not rely on a english translation

[@righteousnessofchrist3304]

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness, but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 1:18

[@SheikhN-bible-syndrome]

That's circular reasoning

[@SheikhN-bible-syndrome]

@James Brice yes.....yes it is.... because all of what the OP stated was based off of the bible and therefore the "situation " the "actions" and the "reasons " were all based within the same thing IE the bible. Therefore because of that it does indeed qualify .

[@derrickpurdy7011]

Even if we had the originals, there would still be debate over what they mean. The bottom line is either you want to believe or you don't. If you don't want to believe, then who cares what your concerns are?

[@jackjones3657]

I would offer the analogy of are saved vs. being saved, sanctification and justification accordingly: Justification is being right in the eyes of God through Jesus, sanctification the process of shedding sinful desires and maturing to be more Christlike. The person who is rescued on the lifeboat and heading towards shore is like someone being sanctified. They are already saved from drowning but not yet on land.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

And what has any of this to do with Numbers 11:1? Or 31:17?

[@aymane3259]

It makes more sense to have the original copied multiple times. Why would it make more sense to have wrong copies of the original, if everyone had the same book then it would be more noticeable if someone had an edited version of the original. Edit: this is just the other side of the coin of the rationalisation(speculation) this man answered with.

[@matchipotchi9443]

Funny how he came really prepared, complete with a presentation, for a random question from a random guy. 😎

[@shariquenguyen4945]

these are all questions asked constantly. hes been doing this for decades....

[@kostasz7z]

Because Skeptics are not actually that smart and he has been hearing the same questions AGAIN AND AGAIN for decades. I do apologetics in my free time talking to a lot of people, I never heard a new question/objection. Its always the same ignorant stuff.

[@Darksaga28]

@@kostasz7z new atheists objections to Theism were mostly responded by Aquinas and Leibniz centuries ago... But they still ask the same questions....

[@seeqr9]

He actually has an app with all of these faqs so kit that funny at all. like the other commenters said except not merely decades but centuries.

[@megancrager4397]

I figure he's just trying to strengthen his argument when taking with non believers

[@coreyjovan5100]

What if the word is spelled the same and has multiple meanings? Homonyms? All different interpretations that contradict each other?

[@darwingomez9341]

Congratulations you have entered the realm of perspective Christians have been fighting thousands of years for it

[@williamruiz1919]

No that is contradictive. If we are saved as kjv says then it is not an ongoing process that needs us to input a works salvation. As Jesus said, it is finished, not almost finished.

[@allegory7638]

Salvation has a number of aspects to it. Yes, the believer is saved, that is salvation in the assigned-once-and-forever sense. But in the fact that a presently saved believer is not yet in a future resurrection body and in the physical presence of Christ, means that salvation is not yet complete (or "worked out"). 1st Peter clearly refers to a salvation to be revealed. The "working out" of salvation is God's work to complete, so that should (rightly) relieve any worries that man has anything to do with it, salvation is indeed God's work. To sum: salvation begins with that act where God declares the believer saved and will end with many wonderful additional things (such as adoption, inheritance, etc). that are not fully manifested on this present Earth.

[@jack2333jy]

ALL PROBLEM STARTS HERE →New Testament Scripture Founded : basically from 2 Major Line of Scripture, 1 is older date and 1 line is later date that being mainly use for interpretation & translation in the Bible we use today.. I guess most Preacher will say older is closer to Origin. Is it thats the only Faith we hv to put on what Preachers or Scholars said OR we should first compare those bible versions and find out ourselves in the beginning ?? Of couse if we dont hv this bothering us it doesnt matter anyway right, until we start to have unanswer questions right.. I start up in NIV when i became Christian few years back. But One Day i got few question sudden pop out in my head which i dont understand - Why there are so many denomination of Churches in the world ? - Why there are so many Bible versions & which one shoud i read ? But later on no one can truly answer me & i come to and read this verse MATTHEW 7:7-8 Thats the 1st time i Pray to God for my unanswer questions.. Below is from God's Lead, Amen to it. Is was never about King James the only True Bible or The Final Authority. Is was about the words in the bible itself that has been corrupted in not an accidental way but it was purposely done. A very Good Example of 2 bible Verse at ( ISAIAH 14:12 & REVELATION 22:16 ) and Pls check all other MODERN VERSION BIBLE and compare it with King James Version. Who is Morning Star ? Who is Satan name before he Sin & Fallen ? Read carefully thru most modern version bible in these 2 verses and if we still think there are so many bible version out there is actually for our easier understanding reading convenience, then i suppose we can just pray to God to lead us to his Truth. If we think maybe is just one simple mistake in the verse, it can be acceptable, but i really have to say NO, because is not just this verse. There are alot more verses that was already being corrupted , misleading, changed of doctrine meaning and missing of verses. But of course All Bibles have minor mistakes such as spelling, Upper lower case or miss out a letter etc.. so for this is not what it meant corrupted or wrong doctrine meaning.. Of course choosing which bible or Church denomination does not affect our Belief in Christ and Get save as long we truly Admit we are sinners and Fully Trust on Jesus Christ for His Precious Blood was shed in the purpose to save us from damnation. But it do affects that we cant get the full truth of God's word and some teaching might be wrong not because of Different denomination but is because of not rightly dividing the truth of God's Word ( 2 TIMOTHY 2:15 ) Do pls compare this verse with other modern bible translation and read carefully does it meant the same meaning in its verse interpretation ? Think about it, brother & sister in Christ, what do God says what He will do to those who ADDS and TAKES AWAY his Words ? When God say so, does it mean God already Knew this will Happen or God just simply Expressing His thoughts ? REV 22.18-19 DEUTERONOMY 4:2 DEUTERONOMY 12:32 PROVERBS 30:5-:6 MATTHEW 22:29 MARK 7:13 MATTHEW 24:24 And i do Truly Believes Every Person that are A Faithful Christian & truly Believes on Jesus Christ would dont mind to search for & find out all the corrupted verses and would want to know why is it so & what to do about it. It is not about Hates or Loves who more, about who's right or wrong, who had higher educations, who had wrote more books, who are more famous or who i have been following for so long.. IS ALWAYS ABOUT THE TRUTH & THE WORDS OF GOD. As a True Christian we are always stand for the Truth of God's Word and thats the only matter. If we can read God says about how satan was created in a perfect way, beauty, clever and cunning, do we think he is our same standard or satan is higher standard than us human in flesh ?? So do Ask ourselves it is possible that satan have attack God's Word and trick us into the altered corrupted bible versions ? Does satan have these kind of wisdom ? *GEN 3:1-4 & EZEKIEL 28:12-15* Brother & Sister in Christ u can judge yourself. God never Force us since the beginning. The Free Will given to us & Thats what God's Grace all about 🤗 I Pray All Truth to be given to all Brother & Sister Christians by ALMIGHTY GOD Himself, may Peace & Love be our Faith in Christ, Amen 😇

[@KawaiiJen777]

Well, a contradiction that does affect the core of Christianity is John 3:16 vs Romans 9:11-23. One says that God “does” love everyone enough to save them while the other says he “does not.”

[@bpdrumstudio]

by not preserving the original, he preserves the original? humm. no. Because if it was good to begin with the original should still stand and copies should not have any discrepancies or contradictions. Funny how you never see biology book with contradictions and yet people choose not to view science (creationism) as a reliable source of facts and truth, when the bible is full of 100s of contradictions and historical inaccuracies but people choose to believe in this. when people choose Faith over facts humanity looses.

[@Happyxcamper]

Science textbooks change constantly over the years dude. They are always coming up with new explanations for crap, and making douches out of the ones who came before. The same kind of "improvements" science thinks it makes over time is the same improvements God's word can make over time. Maybe what He wanted us to know back then is not the same as what He wants us to know now. Because we are the ones who are changing. Constantly speaking differently as a culture. Hell, the language the original people spoke we don't even speak anymore, anywhere in the world. What's in the Bible is what it needs to have to get us to Him. It takes just as much faith to believe any book you read. The truth is in how the book bothers you so much. It says what's wrong inside you. If you have a problem with there being a Creator, who loves you, and died for you, to prove their is such a thing as love, then it's clear where you want to be. Cause he made you everything. And you were his everything. But you hated him anyways. That's the power of God's word, and why it's as important to know what's actually in the Bible, as it is to know how you think of Him and what He did for you.

[@afandilo]

First convincing explanation of the reason The Bible has complications

[@m-zap1332]

I really like the point Frank made about the benefit of several copies vs 1 original.

[@BibleIllustrated]

Likewise.

[@TheMindaeva]

God said He would preserve His word

[@TheMindaeva]

@Carey Herbert "The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord , thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever." Psalms 12:6‭-‬7 KJV

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Could we have purer words than in Numbers 11:19-34? Or in 31:17? Because those don't look very pure...

[@jack2333jy]

ALL PROBLEM STARTS HERE →New Testament Scripture Founded : basically from 2 Major Line of Scripture, 1 is older date and 1 line is later date that being mainly use for interpretation & translation in the Bible we use today.. I guess most Preacher will say older is closer to Origin. Is it thats the only Faith we hv to put on what Preachers or Scholars said OR we should first compare those bible versions and find out ourselves in the beginning ?? Of couse if we dont hv this bothering us it doesnt matter anyway right, until we start to have unanswer questions right.. I start up in NIV when i became Christian few years back. But One Day i got few question sudden pop out in my head which i dont understand - Why there are so many denomination of Churches in the world ? - Why there are so many Bible versions & which one shoud i read ? But later on no one can truly answer me & i come to and read this verse MATTHEW 7:7-8 Thats the 1st time i Pray to God for my unanswer questions.. Below is from God's Lead, Amen to it. Is was never about King James the only True Bible or The Final Authority. Is was about the words in the bible itself that has been corrupted in not an accidental way but it was purposely done. A very Good Example of 2 bible Verse at ( ISAIAH 14:12 & REVELATION 22:16 ) and Pls check all other MODERN VERSION BIBLE and compare it with King James Version. Who is Morning Star ? Who is Satan name before he Sin & Fallen ? Read carefully thru most modern version bible in these 2 verses and if we still think there are so many bible version out there is actually for our easier understanding reading convenience, then i suppose we can just pray to God to lead us to his Truth. If we think maybe is just one simple mistake in the verse, it can be acceptable, but i really have to say NO, because is not just this verse. There are alot more verses that was already being corrupted , misleading, changed of doctrine meaning and missing of verses. But of course All Bibles have minor mistakes such as spelling, Upper lower case or miss out a letter etc.. so for this is not what it meant corrupted or wrong doctrine meaning.. Of course choosing which bible or Church denomination does not affect our Belief in Christ and Get save as long we truly Admit we are sinners and Fully Trust on Jesus Christ for His Precious Blood was shed in the purpose to save us from damnation. But it do affects that we cant get the full truth of God's word and some teaching might be wrong not because of Different denomination but is because of not rightly dividing the truth of God's Word ( 2 TIMOTHY 2:15 ) Do pls compare this verse with other modern bible translation and read carefully does it meant the same meaning in its verse interpretation ? Think about it, brother & sister in Christ, what do God says what He will do to those who ADDS and TAKES AWAY his Words ? When God say so, does it mean God already Knew this will Happen or God just simply Expressing His thoughts ? REV 22.18-19 DEUTERONOMY 4:2 DEUTERONOMY 12:32 PROVERBS 30:5-:6 MATTHEW 22:29 MARK 7:13 MATTHEW 24:24 And i do Truly Believes Every Person that are A Faithful Christian & truly Believes on Jesus Christ would dont mind to search for & find out all the corrupted verses and would want to know why is it so & what to do about it. It is not about Hates or Loves who more, about who's right or wrong, who had higher educations, who had wrote more books, who are more famous or who i have been following for so long.. IS ALWAYS ABOUT THE TRUTH & THE WORDS OF GOD. As a True Christian we are always stand for the Truth of God's Word and thats the only matter. If we can read God says about how satan was created in a perfect way, beauty, clever and cunning, do we think he is our same standard or satan is higher standard than us human in flesh ?? So do Ask ourselves it is possible that satan have attack God's Word and trick us into the altered corrupted bible versions ? Does satan have these kind of wisdom ? *GEN 3:1-4 & EZEKIEL 28:12-15* Brother & Sister in Christ u can judge yourself. God never Force us since the beginning. The Free Will given to us & Thats what God's Grace all about 🤗 I Pray All Truth to be given to all Brother & Sister Christians by ALMIGHTY GOD Himself, may Peace & Love be our Faith in Christ, Amen 😇

[@alanz90]

Well if u had the original all you'd have to do is copy it multiple times, instead of not having it and relying on trying to figure it out from flawed copies. So the answer to the question is silly - i.e. no it's NOT a good thing that u don't have the original. Common sense

[@joshuagalvez9678]

And what’s funny is the current bibles aren’t copies of the original, they’re “copies” of copies

[@seeqr9]

It was copied multiple times. Passed along and copied. Things wear out.

[@jdshl8423]

How do you know that the Bible was not copied multiple times from the original? There are so many copies of manuscripts dated early that nobody knows if it might be the original. But let's just say none of those were original. Do direct copies from the original not have flaws, that is, scribal mistakes? Do originals themselves not have spelling errors, grammatical errors, or missing words as penned by the author? Show me an original manuscript from antiquity that is perfect just like that. Wait, there are no such originals in existence anywhere on this planet. In fact, almost nothing you own in today's world is original, unless you originally designed it and custom built it yourself. The original is the first complete prototype, and everything else is a copy of it, with modifications as time goes by. But if you owned copies made very close to the original release, you mean to tell me you can't tell what was likely the same as the original? You don't seem to realise how silly your argument actually is. Originals are great, but they are not absolutely necessary for textual preservation.

[@hassanyay5163]

@@jdshl8423 actually the Quran, has never been changed and is the word of God. Do not argue with me please that’s not what I’m hear for. If you’re actually interested however, look up how a carbon dated Quran was found in university of Birmingham. It was dated back to the times of the Muhammad being alive. And guess what? The parts found align with the Quran today. Look it up if you’re interested.

[@coffee7180]

@@hassanyay5163 in the British museum you can find a bible from 300 AC and it's exactly the same we have now.

[@dulls8475]

I agree that the most accurate Bible is the KJV. I read other Bibles but the KJV has stood the test of time.

[@KeepingWatch95]

KJV Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: Matthew 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. Matthew 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. Matthew 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? Matthew 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? Matthew 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. _Jesus sown the good seed. Right after the enemy came and sown the tares among the good seed._ _Good seed = the four Gospels; Matthew, Mark, Luke, & John._ _The tares were sown then after._ _Everyone knows Jesus came and sown the good seed. And everyone knows who came right after Jesus and sown much seed intermingled with what Jesus had sown._

[@michaelrud4351]

The mental gymnastics towards the end is astounding

[@gknight4719]

HI Michael, yes their crazy minds get a real workout trying to hang onto this fairy story! (god) firstly they have to still love god , even though god has caused ALL OUR PROBLEMS! Example, TSUNARMIES, MALARIA, Read Romans ch 8 vs 22

[@megancrager4397]

@@gknight4719 that makes me really sad you feel that way 😕

[@gknight4719]

@@megancrager4397 hi Megan, thanks for your kind words, but I feel god needs your sympathy, as god has anger management problems because his children ARE so badly behave! I am a father and my child is really good, maybe because I hug around and cared for her and loved her, unlike "god" who ran off and has been killing us ever since! No fathering skills at all , just maybe gods parents were just the same! YOU KNOW, MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO!

[@gknight4719]

@I'm always Banned Yes religious humans do not take kindly to any opposing opinion. But it's worth fighting them because if we DID not, we would still be back in the dark ages!

[@hiddenrambo328]

It is the exact same reason nothing can be truly deleted from the internet because there are to many copies even if you only had fragments with enough you can recreate the original this is data recovery. So it's not gymnastics it's simple reasoning that we still practice to this day.

[@kylebecker5083]

Interesting. Frank also explained blockchain technology.

[@matostruck]

JESUS CHRIST IS AT HAND!!! TO ALL UNBELIEVERS AND ATHIEST........REPENT!!!!

[@johnlewisbrooks]

matostruck Couldn't agree more! The middle east is a ticking time bomb with a short fuse!

[@WilliamsWorldView]

matastruck Repent for what? Why repent? God has nothing to offer I desire

[@jasonr6342]

matostruck do you just come on every video spout something incoherent and stupid then leave?

[@The-Azure-Knight]

Babeaba What do you desire?

[@WilliamsWorldView]

Thy 72eaper You know, thats an interesting question. I would be lying if I said I didn't have any desires. Everyone has wants and needs. So do I. But for the matter of eternal bliss in heaven... I'll pass, thank you. I have plenty of challenges in life. They make life interesting and worth living. Sure, not everything went the way I wanted to, but that's ok. I might still not get from life, what I would like to get from life, or achieve in life. After I die, that won't matter, not to me. So why would I repent, when I have no use for a reward for repenting? I working on achieving in life what I want to achieve, getting from life what I want. I might succede, I might not. Going to heaven or not, has no added value, as after my death, I won't enjoy my achievements in life or despair about the things I didn't achieve. There just isn't any added bonus. And even if we do all have an eternal soul. All my close relatives and friends are atheists. Those people I would want to see again, they're not going to be in heaven. I'll have a greater chance of seeing them, when I don't go to heaven, right?

[@REBUKED1]

I love the fact that he's willing to fight for the souls of the young & educated. By and large, they are a lost generation.

[@HilyahAsSalaf]

If there are contradictory views then one of them is wrong, meaning one of them cannot be authored by God, meaning there are words of men in the Bible.

[@metroidmayhem8463]

Welp guess that explains the original copy issue...now what about those hundreds of contradictions.

[@aftaaratik242]

Uda copi uda copi uda copi uda copi

[@praiseyahweh777]

How can there be errors in a book that is said to be from an all knowing being?

[@praiseyahweh777]

@Big Chungus You're right. Thank you

[@LearnFromTheLight]

@Big Chungus so your telling me to base my belief on a book that wasn’t the true words of god but supposed words of god. Bruh

[@LearnFromTheLight]

@Big Chungus yeah, not really an answer to my question and the Bible can’t be used as a historical source since it’s filled with errors. Rather you should have said that the Bible has historical accounts of certain things by people of the time. Who can be historically wrong

[@LearnFromTheLight]

@Big Chungus Sure I’d be happy to, if you could explain just one of them. I will admit Christianity to be the truth and only truth. 2 kings 8:26 Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel. 2 chronicles 22:2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri. _____ 2 chronicles 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the Lord. 2 king 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. His mother’s name was Nehushta daughter of Elnathan; she was from Jerusalem. ____ Matthew 1:16 and Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, _____ Acts 1:18 With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. Matthew 27:5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself. _____ 2 chronicles 9:25 Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horses, which he kept in the chariot cities and also with him in Jerusalem. 1 Kings 4:26 Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen. ____ 2 Samuel 10:18 But they fled before Israel, and David killed seven hundred of their charioteers and forty thousand of their foot soldiers. He also struck down Shobak the commander of their army, and he died there. 1 chronicles 19:18 But they fled before Israel, and David killed seven thousand of their charioteers and forty thousand of their foot soldiers. He also killed Shophak the commander of their army. This is my personal list from reading the Bible but if you Go search up 50,000 Bible errors and you will find a website that seems to have found 50k errors form the Bible lol. KZbin won’t let me put the link

[@sucreygalgo8071]

Where can u find in your bible that the bible is your final authority? Mathew 18 disproved that. And here comes mr.turek never corrected him.

[@ExperienceEric]

My man Jesus Himself taught in Mark 7 that scripture has final authority over all man made doctrines and traditions. Maybe I misunderstood your point but the Bible confirm its to be the final authority on doctrine over and over and over again.

[@jdshl8423]

If not the Bible, then what is the final authority? The Pope? ROFL!

[@dannylinc6247]

There's also knowledge and taking notice of who wrote the thing down, who is it addressing, what are their current circumstances, at that time, if we can know, and who are they to God? These factors are important , quite often. A matter of verb tense? That can change meaning. But the translators of the KJV 1611 had to consider these factors to get the meaning right. They wanted to make an oh, so accurate rendering. At that time weren't some people different from others? So, Paul is addressing the Corinthians. He says either they are saved or being saved. At the end of the day, salvation was theirs, and the letter is to correct what they are doing since their visits from Paul. That's how I take that. If I'm like the Corinthians, my dispensational truth is different from another person who may not be. If I was another apostle, I could say I'm saved and chosen out of the world to do some things Jesus asked me to do. I witnessed first hand, His Resurrection. He sent me to follow in His footsteps. If I'm a Judaic person, I have a lifetime of adhering to mosaic law and may need to talk about it some more with say, Peter, or James, and see how it applies to me. Now that Christ has done His work, things have become different as it applies. But if I'm not able to yet understand what saved is, or I haven't heard Paul's .message from him, I could say I'm attentive to this and I am being saved as my intention. You know it's Christ's intention. The variant doesn't change that precept in it's meaning.

[@KeepingWatch95]

Jesus dispensatated the good seed...

[@KeepingWatch95]

Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: Matthew 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. Matthew 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. Matthew 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? Matthew 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? Matthew 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. _Jesus sown the good seed. Right after the enemy came and sown the tares among the good seed._ _Good seed = the four Gospels; Matthew, Mark, Luke, & John._ _The tares were sown then after._ _Everyone knows Jesus came and sown the good seed. And everyone knows who came right after Jesus and sown much seed intermingled with what Jesus had sown._

[@dannylinc6247]

@@KeepingWatch95 Jesus came to bring the good news to the poor, of the Jews. To find the apostles and disciple them, teach them, demonstrate for them, and send them out into the whole world. Die for the sin of mankind. I think the rest of the new testament is about all the things that needed to be said to the different people's they went out to. The whole picture of being freed from the mosaic law, being freed from the leaven of the pharisees, these things aren't in the lives of the gentiles. The good seed is planted, the old ways of Judaism are not a factor to the gentiles, personally. The Holy Spirit was poured out upon the apostles and disciples, and the world. We are taught to live by the Spirit after being saved and praying to receive the Spirit. Put to death, the fleshly ways. We need the teachings of the apostles in the new testament and the other disciples whose writings are canonized. (The tares emit poison when heated or boiled, they look quite like the wheat. The wheat is harvested and gathered. The tares are bundled and thrown in the fire). Are these writings ? or people that are likened to the tares and the wheat? (The field being the kingdom)

[@nnelgyor8990]

Hi Frank, your seminars seem to have the momentum of a runaway frieght train. Why are you so popular?

[@jailtheology]

Because he hungers after the Lord, and it shows

[@cobalius]

@@jailtheology i don't think that's how it'll work.

[@daniapowell180]

@@cobalius it is

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

@@daniapowell180 I agree

[@theray4002]

Our faith centers around Jesus and we already have proof for his crucifixion and his resurrection from the dead, so it doesn’t really matter these other contradictions because the same essential story elements. Even the extra stories in John and the missing stories in Mark don’t contradict other events, they just add to it. Even Mark it is said it is trying to recount a lot of miracles, so it’s not necessarily saying these other thing’s didn’t happen. Same can be said with the wedding at canna and the woman at the well

[@LinksQuest]

Some things don’t just add things though, they absolutely contradict each other. This becomes a problem when a lot of people claim that the entirety of the Bible is the infallible and completely accurate and perfect word of God, that contains no contradictions whatsoever. Making an argument that the Bible contains contradictions is often mistakenly perceived as an argument against its message as a whole. It contains contradictions, this isn’t even debatable, only why they exist should be debated.

[@devcooper9282]

God was perfect but couldn’t make the perfect book

[@spinzbydagamer111]

Dson 1k the book was not written by god🤦🏽‍♂️

[@brony_bird_of_prey8558]

SPINZBY DAGAMER I thought all scripture was god breathed?

[@dansofoster9110]

@@spinzbydagamer111 didn't they write it based on his words?

[@japexican007]

The problem with people is that they think a collection of historical documents and prophecies should all match to the T with no differentiation from one another even though the time span ranges and the associated events don’t all uniquely represent the same events nor the same group of people

[@rayanthonypardillo9688]

That is Christian God

[@dustyk103]

There are too many people who are so self-righteous that they declare they are right and everyone else is wrong. I’ve been challenged by atheists about the veracity of the Bible. One pointed out, contradictions in the gospels about the day Jesus was crucified. That’s easily explainable by one writer, counting days from sunrise to sunrise and the other counting from sunset sunset. Another contradiction was in translation, where he pointed out that God said he created evil. But when I looked up in the study Bible, the word used could also be translated as tribulations and other things. I think it’s all a matter of bad people trying to say it interprets things to what they want it to mean.

[@michaelanderson4849]

Or this magic god could have created a book containing all necessary info and then just kept it from any alteration or destruction what so ever. A totally indestructable book which cant be forged because the original is always here to check against. That would be a miracle I would very likely believe in. The myth being peddled by Frank... Not so much.

[@michaelanderson4849]

@Absolute Reddit Moment "Your logic is self contradictory because you'd want God to create an indestructible book that NO ONE can access for us to know about him." When did I say "that no one could access"? Why couldn't this god use some super-awesome god-magic and teleport this indestructable book to anyone, anytime, anywhere? I mean sure this would be within the abilities of your super-awesome god dude?

[@raymondgrimaldi9207]

@@michaelanderson4849 isn't it strange that most Christians feel the need to protect and defend the most powerful being in the universe???

[@michaelanderson4849]

@@raymondgrimaldi9207 Yup! The very same kind of butthurt attitude as any other snowflake who can't handle a "no" or anyone disagreeing with their particular snowflake position.

[@MubeenKhan-dz3lw]

@@michaelanderson4849 you are absolutely right. There IS a book sent down by God himself after the bible, which has been preserved cover to cover in book and memory and some if which can be carbon dated back to the time period of its revelation. Its called the Quran. Hear me out... Muslims believe that the old testament, bible, and the gospel were all revealed by god and WERE CORRECT IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM. The contraditions this man is trying to explain are due to human error and God does not make errors. Therefore, we do not make the Bible, old testament and gospel our measure for right and wring because they have been corrupted over time but we believe the original message was correct. Now I invite you to please read 1 chapter of the Quarn with an open heart and I'm sure you will definitely understand what im trying to explain because there is not 1 contradition in the Quran because it is preserved cover to cover.

[@michaelanderson4849]

@@MubeenKhan-dz3lw A couple of questions... Then how is it that the book you mention is available, right now, in several versions, all having different text? The book you refer to specifies that it was for an Arabic audience only, not a global one. Where does the sun set exactly? Why was Muhammed eating and handling animals declared to be unclean by the law of Moses? Why is selling the urine of an unclean animal as a drink big business among muslims? What does "reading with an open heart" mean? The heart is a muscle that pumps blood. Nothing more. It is not involved in reading of any kind.

[@phaxad]

2 Corinthians 2:17 states MANY corrupt the word of God. ALL English versions made after the King James come from a corrupt text.

[@cnault3244]

And since no originals exist, all copies in any language or translation should be tossed out as unreliable.

[@jerrylanglois7892]

Contradictions in the bible ? Of course, because it was written by men. How could the '' word of god '' have contradictions ?

[@ExperienceEric]

It doesn't, and I have never seen one that is not easily debunked by ignorece of Jewish culture and language.

[@jerrylanglois7892]

@@ExperienceEric Well, you're too ignorant to be able to spell '' ignorece ''.

[@ExperienceEric]

@@jerrylanglois7892 Well if your best response is to troll over a typo then this is not a serious conversation on any level. Farewell my friend.

[@jerrylanglois7892]

@@ExperienceEric Well, you can either use the typo as a cop-out or you can give me just one example of your position of debunking a biblical contradiction.

[@jdshl8423]

@@jerrylanglois7892 , LOL! Name the contradiction you believe exists. Otherwise what should he be debunking? Or do you actually believe that simply saying "the bible has contradictions" is a self-supporting claim? But just so you know, he didn't cop out when you performed an ad hominem manoeuver. His use of '' ignorece '' (misspelled) and your use of "ignorant" meant very different things.

[@bagustranslate94]

Well if you agree that the original text is infallible, WHICH IS the Hebrew and the Greek one, then the whole problem is solved right? KJV and the others are the english version that came much later

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Or is it...

[@ExperienceEric]

God knew before creation that the KJV would be the most read version by far.

[@b16streetburner]

How did Judas die?... errors in the text are trivial when its stated that a person died two separate ways. When the bible disagrees with itself it is unreliable. Try again mr. apologist

[@coryanderson5210]

One states how he died(matt27), another stated what happened to the body afterwards (acts1)..? What would happened after someone who’s been hanging for a few days after death, then was cut from said tree to fall a distance unspecified? Are we not shown by experience that dead bodies are pressured with gases and bacteria within just a few days. Just a thought to consider. I don’t know of a version that states he died from the fall, but all are clear that he hung himself.

[@b16streetburner]

@@coryanderson5210 the text says he fell "HEAD LONG" if the body fell due to the rope breaking or being cut he would have fell feet first not head first. Your reaching pretty far to go to the most far fetched explanation to reconcile this discrepancy. Even if you go as far to say the body hit something on the way down and did a 180 degree flip is quite a stretch to make the two stories fit together. Sorry the holy book of fables isnt more explicit in the story telling. And you didnt care to address that in mathew Judas returns the 30 pieces of silver and Acts says he used the 30 pieces of silver to buy the field. Acts says he did while in mathew he didnt. Same with mathew,luke and mark stating that jesus was crucified after passover but yet the gospel of john is animate that he was crucified on the preparation day for passover. Even the time of day jesus was crucified is different in the gospel of john in comparison to the synoptic gospels.

[@coryanderson5210]

@@b16streetburner not reaching, just thinking critically and open to correction when it is given. Not every bit of information is given on a silver platter for us to eat in regards to scripture (Proverbs 25:2). We must spend time to research and study what is given to us. John clarifies that Jesus was crucified before the High Sabbath day (John 19:31), which is different than the weekly sabbath day (Saturday). Therefore we can conclude that on the week of the crucifixion there were more than one sabbath day. Most Christians ignorantly believe Christ died on a friday because of tradition and/or faulty reasoning, but forget to do simple math backwards from Sunday. How else would mary have time to gather and prepare the spices?.. we must think deep and use the given text to connect the dots when it is not clear. We as believers on a whole are truly perishing because of lack of knowledge of the scriptures, this is prophecy unfolding. I dare not be one to be ignorant, but admittedly still lack much in knowledge of His amazing scriptures. Tradition can be a hard thing to overcome. Keep digging! I once had the same questions and refutes as you are positing now.

[@b16streetburner]

@@coryanderson5210 lol too bad you dont care to dig deeper yourself. A particular translation of modern day such as kjv, niv, nev, ext. while i have dug deeper and look at the earliest of manuscripts and have studied the context to which words were used back then. Along with being able to translate greek into English....you can interpret HIGH sabbath however you like (i agree sabbath was and is observed by orthodox jews on Saturdays) your saying that sabbath day was more than what was written? More than Saturday? but it still doesn't matter. In Mark 15:25 crucifixion takes place at the third hour and Jesus' death at the ninth hour . However, in John 19:14 Jesus is still before Pilate at the sixth hour. And this is in all modern translations since you like to stick to them and this objectively verifiable. Fyi i appreciate the non refutation of judas falling headlong and buying or not buying the field with the money received for betraying jesus. I suggest you do what a new testament biblical scholar ( bart d. erhman) challenges Christians to do and write one gospel using all the gospels and not leave anything out to see if its not blatantly contradictory and to read the gospels side by side and not one after the other. Not a single person, scholar nor historian nor Christian can do this without altering timelines and texts in order to reconcile these discrepancies. At the end of the day we could do this going back and forth for a lifetime since Muslims, mormans and hindus all say their scriptures are without contradictions and offer apologetics as well. The fact remains that there's over a thousand different denominations of christianity that disagree with every point of doctrine which leaves your gods word as subjective and not objective therefore susceptible to fallible incorrectness of interpretation. So it logically follows that yahweh, jehovah, el, abah, allah, jesus, holy spirit is an inept fool not worthy of worship nor serious consideration.

[@b16streetburner]

@@coryanderson5210 because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day" (John 19:31), Jesus has to die before sunset-before the beginning of the Sabbath, when capital punishment was prohibited by Jewish law, as were decisions regarding criminal cases being made at night (Sanhedrin, Mishnah IV.1; cf. Deuteronomy 21:23, "His body shall not remain all night upon the tree"). In the synoptic accounts, Jesus does die on Passover, a Sabbath day. This is why John alone speaks of the legs of the two thieves being broken so that they not remain alive on the cross (cf. Cicero, Philippics, XIII.27, "it is quite impossible for him to die unless his legs are broken," a proverbial remark said of Titus Plancus, whose shifting political alliances allowed him to survive; for him, even though "They are broken, and still he lives"). Unable to lift themselves to breathe, suffocation would come all the more readily and death hastened-before the start of the Sabbath (and Passover) that evening, only hours later. The legs of Jesus no doubt would have been broken as well, had he not already died (as confirmed by the thrust of a spear), thus fulfilling God's command that "neither shall ye break a bone thereof" of the paschal lamb (Exodus 12:46, John 19:33-34).

[@samuellum5946]

i dont understand the last sentence Frank said. "strangely, by not preserving the original, he preserves the original." how does that sentence follow from the example he just elucidated?

[@grantbartley483]

It's a rhetorical device

[@jeffdowswell7706]

Its like when you have to show all your work in school. The scribbles and original copies you write for your answer help the teacher know how you came to your final copy or answer. And that you didn't cheat and just copy from someone else's.

[@uhasnolsjeneral9026]

Very weak answer. I'm totally lost with your philosophy of copying. Without knowing what is in the original, how can u know which word to take out or preserve even everyone have the copy of the copy of the copy? That is why there are so many versions of bible, because they believe what they took out and preserve is the right one.

[@mazikomijoya7304]

You take the mean

[@raymondgrimaldi9207]

True...in fact the Eastern Orthodox Bible doesn't even have the book of Revelations in it...and that is a pretty important book to some believers

[@whatchandstudy7]

I get the analogy but it doesn't answer the question as to why all the copies have errors.

[@louielee407]

First you will need to prove that all the Bibles have errors. In Revelation 22:18-19 God warns us that anyone who adds to the Bible will be cursed with terrible plagues, and anyone who takes away from the Bible will lose any place they couldve had in the Kingdom of God. This shows us that God means to preserve His word. If God is real, Then he would certainly have to power to preserve all of His word. But there is no proof that Any of the Christian Bibles have errors, and frankly I would feel bad for anyone who would try to change it.