The Problem w/ The iDubbz Apology

[@Braddockggb]

Why would he get a mullet and THEN stop saying the N-Word? You don't stop driving when you get your license.

[@JimmyBlueCheese]

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[@marcsman07]

😂 That shit killed me bro.

[@GriffithzDream]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[@MegaIIII]

So funny bro 😮

[@vmrc_994]

​@@MegaIIII it actually is funny as fuck

[@hoorah92]

Him saying he learned empathy at 30 isnt as scary as MLD saying he learned boundries at 32 lolol

[@55thstreet66]

His analogy of putting a mirror to his face is perfect. Sometimes you are blindsided by the fact that you are online making jokes or memes that you don't realize the harm you could be doing. Idk how I feel about a self diagnosed autism andy over here telling people how to express their emotions. Destiny the women on the right is min maxing an apology.

[@myronwilliams3340]

@fliub lol right dude is probably still trying to glass girls in clubs

[@hoorah92]

@@GH23d7sL45 100% lol

[@meganaxelia]

who’s MLD? I can only think martin luther ding

[@hoorah92]

@@meganaxelia I think modern life dating or something. The guy in the blue suit on the whatever podcast destiny was on

[@gaz4553]

He seems to be overcorrecting so hard I think he might have actually held those views. lol

[@trapsarentgaymcgee5202]

iDubbz is a little soy, not as bad people are making it seem tho

[@watch-Dominion-2018]

no he didn't, he was a funny guy, but his OF thot is a controlling bich

[@JoeMama-wz5rw]

He obviously held those views, dude was an incel

[@snowcone3573]

It feels like he's jacking it to the amount he's changed

[@vmrc_994]

Bingo. He was a bad person and that's why he is so down on himself. If he actually thought it was just jokes he would be way more light with it.

[@jedlee2194]

His “cruelty” was compelling because it was always honest. The things he exposed were usually deceit, scams, character flaws and hypocrisy. Like a critic that shines a spotlight on the flaws of a bad movie. That’s not bullying. When society gets too polite and stops exposing these things, deceit and scams run rampant. Content cop was useful.

[@jedlee2194]

Notice now how people are skeptical of “polite” Ian. Is he being sincere? Is Anisa pulling his strings? Etc. but during Content Cop era, he was respected most because no one had doubt about if he was being honest. The debate was whether he was too rude.

[@domerame5913]

@@jedlee2194 That's because people that leave their room know what a dishonest person looks like

[@amazin7006]

It wasn't exposing anything, it was pure schadenfreude. Worthless cruelty that served no purpose or made anyone's life better at all. It's like saying public executions shines a spotlight on the flaws of society, it never does. Ever.

[@amazin7006]

@@jedlee2194 "Notice now how people are skeptical of “polite” Ian" Schizophrenic internet nazis like Sam Hyde's fanbase are skeptical of anyone who calls them out on their bullshit. That's their whole thing, they hate sincerity, they hate empathy, they hate anyone that points out that they're the real disgusting sub human dregs of society. Imagine thinking this supports your point, when in reality it just makes Idubbbz look better. When the worst people hate you then you know you're doing something right.

[@ronswanson1410]

@@domerame5913 That's not an argument someone with a brain would make.

[@RealFreedomMG]

This seems like a parody Matt Stone and Trey Parker would make about themselves because of South Park. The only thing missing is Idubbz wiping away tears with the money he has made.

[@PajamaJazama]

i lold

[@rare-6608]

It’s bizarro world when idubz is apologizing to Leafy.

[@deeepdale]

people cant have money and want to change? sure. makes sense.

[@RealFreedomMG]

@@deeepdale Did you reply to the wrong person? I don't remember writing that so if I did I would like to know so I can book an appointment with my doctor to get checked for early onset dementia otherwise I would recommend getting checked up yourself because you're seeing words that aren't there.

[@deeepdale]

@@RealFreedomMG wiping away tears with money indicates insincerity. You are saying he is insincere. idk what kinda doctor can help you read between your own lines.

[@AliRadicali]

I rewatched those dreaded content cops out of due diligence and I have to say I'd even somewhat forgotton how explicitly Ian lays out his stance on the matter and how nuanced his position is. He makes it crystal clear that his issue is hypocrisy, he doesn't care about no-no words and thinks overreacting to them is dumb. HOWEVER, if you're going to use those words, especially in anger to insult others, don't present yourself like a do-gooder moralist. The fact that Ian is now the one lamely trying to reduce those videos to "saying slurs and harassing people" is pretty heartbreaking. I also think it shows he'd rather abandon his principles and start a war with his fans, who valued him for who he was, than confront his wife who hated everything about him.

[@55thstreet66]

What's heartbreaking about changing your stance on slurs? Are you okay lil bro? You act like someone died. You really said choose some strangers or "fans" (that he rejects) over his loving wife LMAO

[@AliRadicali]

@@55thstreet66 Clearly you have issues with reading comprehension. Changing your stance on slurs from a coherent, consistent liberal position to a hypocritical, self-serving moralising authoritarian one is a clear regression. And I explicitly said Ian's wife hates him, to turn that into "his loving wife" just demonstrates that you can't read and aren't worth talking to. At least put some effort into your taint-licking or better yet, just go away if you have nothing of value to add to the conversation.

[@pinkside692]

@@55thstreet66 are you okay?

[@55thstreet66]

@@pinkside692 Just say you like using slurs lil bro

[@dhantefranklin336]

​@@55thstreet66 whoa.

[@XSpamDragonX]

It's insane how he still refuses to believe that anyone hates his wife for any reason besides sexism.

[@user-uq4gr5nl5o]

Why else would anyone hate her?

[@dylangeorgeson6580]

The main reason is obviously because she has an Only Fans and they think she's like a Yoko lmao

[@sosamma090]

​@@dylangeorgeson6580 no. It is because she is uber cringe. Have you seen her vids?

[@user-uq4gr5nl5o]

@@dylangeorgeson6580 Ok, so sexism in other words

[@PajamaJazama]

@@user-uq4gr5nl5o keep telling yourself that 🎻

[@echoscells]

the problem was he is full of shit and this sounds like every generic pr response from celebs "im sorry for my past, i was in a dark place, ive grown, im so much better now" "I definitely didn't know what i was doing, I was only a grown ass man while i was doing it"

[@Meltdownlv100]

Celebs do that from fear of cancelation. Idubbz was never going to get canceled for those viral videos that everyone still sees as legendary. Pretty sure he knows himself he was never going to get canceled for it which is why this apology vid was just to purge his old fan base to defend his wife. Heard a lot of things about his wife but she doesn't seem to do any tangible harm to anyone other than being cringe so who cares

[@echoscells]

@@Meltdownlv100 He isnt trying to keep that old audience that allows that shit thats the point, he is clearly trying to move up and make a bigger name for yourself but you cant really be a big hollywood name doing what idubbz did 9 times out of 10, even having that shit tied to him I would bet everything has already lost him money from not getting certain deals or whatever

[@Macheako]

@@echoscells he wants an audience of sympathetic losers who won’t hold him to any standards ❤

[@lancevance6346]

@@echoscells He now says he hates Sam and wants nothing to do with him. But wanted everything to do with him when he wanted to punk him. He just failed so hard at it. You can bet he'd have paraded himself as the guy who took down Sam in front of hasan and his new leftist friends. It's not even just his old fans that hate him. He's just made himself look petty for the entire internet.

[@tovpp7]

He said he knew what he was doing though and takes a ton of responsibility, almost too much so he doesn’t seem insincere.

[@benjaminchia4812]

Legend has is his wife started her onlyfans because he wanted to give back to the community he so damaged

[@booleah6357]

And the legends say she's still doing it to this day.

[@beandon7227]

Really felt like he was demonizing his old fans, who probably don't deserve it. The vocal minority and cringe people float to the top, but 95 percent of his fans just watched his shit. Thought it was funny. Then, they moved on with their lives. Just like how I'm SURE that MILLIONS of people who watches Southpark or has seen a Louis C.K. special or some shit like that. Perfectly normal people have edgy humor and can not act like gremlins in real life.

[@iansmart4158]

Well I’m pretty sure he’s NOT talking about those ppl. So it’s fine. Those don’t seem like the types who’d go to a meet and greet.

[@BillyOrBobbyOrSomething]

Also not to mention that most of us were literally like 14 at the time 💀 and he was 20 something

[@muckdriver]

The part where it was mostly people he met at meet n greets(or whatever) made me laugh. No freakin duh, it's super fans and online people. I bet you even his more extreme left wing audience has just as many weird looking and troubled people.

[@beandon7227]

@muck driver absolutely, in 2016 for sure . . . But that was like 7 years ago. What's left of his fans have, for the most part, matured into normal people from what I've experienced and seen. Those are the fans. I feel like he's shitting on them the entire video. Frustrating to see.

[@Dielawn69]

He acts as if his audience was some small niche. Literally he was the at the top of KZbin during those content cop days. They got 10+ million views. Like ya said the majority of those people were normal as fuck. He wants to make it seem lik the majority were edgelord basement dwellers. Its just so dishonest

[@KryptonianChaos1]

I cooked some banana pancakes today and they tasted delicious. I stirred the batter autistically for like 12 minutes. I sliced my bananas with mathematical precision. But I realized that was useless because they were gonna get mushed up anyway. Once the pancakes were cooked I sat down and poured syrup on them until the pancakes drowned. I wanted them dead before feasting. I gnawed and gnashed until the pancakes were appropriate enough to swallow. I could feel the pancakes travel through my intestines. I then needed to take a shit. It was big. That was my whole day

[@ronswanson1410]

You didn't wipe?

[@KryptonianChaos1]

@@ronswanson1410 Maybe I like a little Nutella on my pancakes

[@MadCowDiseased]

You stirred the batter way too long, you want it nice and lumpy for softer, fluffier pancakes. Next time stir to combine and then stop.

[@fungdark8270]

@@MadCowDiseasedyeah, doesn’t it tend to say in the box not to overmix?

[@joeldixton5627]

You gotta prepare the pancake mixture and store it in the fridge the night before to make even better pancakes cuz they set really well Also idubbz made this drama up in an attempt to stay relevant

[@sshadyh]

“i’ve just acquired empathy” bruh he’s acting like he used to be a complete sociopath

[@Shin_Akumi]

Dennis reynolds😂

[@sticks7857]

Which is also a roundabout accusation that in order to like his content you also have to be a sociopath. The video basically just serves as a character assassination against his old audience as loser incels that he abandoned because he wants to hang around pretty rich people with liberal guilt like he has now.

[@id1550]

Yeah and what rubs me the wrong way is, he wouldn’t just go after random people that didn’t deserve criticism. These people did deserve criticism and idubbbz seems to act like they didn’t? And he really over exaggerates how “bad” he actually was

[@coocoo3336]

He kinda was

[@whiteflame24]

You say that like he’s not a complete sociopath now lol

[@neropunkt]

the best thing this video did is that it made me go back and watch a bunch of his old videos. they're really good

[@BananaPhoPhilly]

@@GH23d7sL45 b8

[@jhonklan3794]

they were also remarkably anti racist for thier time

[@chadmwilliams89]

Honestly, dude seems like he's been to way too much therapy.

[@MyName-vg8yu]

Nah he just got too much SIMPathy

[@Frizzyy]

a good therapist would teach you to go easy on yourself tbh

[@REDDAWNproject]

​@@Frizzyy this. Therapists are trying to push you AWAY from self flagellation.

[@Macheako]

@@REDDAWNproject I wouldn’t know 🤔 I’ve never needed to PAY another human being to just sit and listen to my bs problems 😢

[@Eli1jhosiah]

@@Macheako nobody responded to you or expected you to relate or understand. You randomly jumped into a conversation and added nothing to it lmao wtf

[@colinjohnson6454]

I will have to say that even though hes changed his format his "newer" videos with Airsoft Fatty and Dax Flame seemed like he was poking fun of the people under the guise of an honest documentary. Once Sam Hyde (which im not a fan of) flipped the script on Idubbbz it broke him a little and made him double down on his moral superiority complex. Just my opinion.

[@whiteflame24]

Those documentaries are 100% meant to make fun of the person and Sam figured it out before he even showed up and flipped it on him

[@TNTspaz]

I think his new audience has slowly started to realize this after Sam. Idubbbz has truely managed to turn so many people against him. I'm super sick of all the moral grandstanding not just from idubbbz but about idubbbz. All the content creators that came out to defend idubbbz was the most cringe shit ever

[@terencebc]

it wasn't, Sam was a coward, should have just refused

[@dodedodedo22]

he focuses entirely on this idea that people miss him saying the "N-Word" which wasn't a big part of his videos to be honest and no one even cares if he's not saying it or being edgy in general, 90% of his problem right now was him going after Sam Hyde and getting busted trying to do some kind of highbrow morally superior content cop (which he doesnt seem to have a problem doing), the way he went about it and the constant moral grandstanding he's done since.

[@NickGhale]

It was for me

[@Tohlemiach]

The Sam Hyde fiasco was indeed what made me lose all respect for iDubbz.

[@thereccher8746]

He went full leftie. Never go full leftie.

[@Constantinch]

I love how in this video he says that he used to think he was better than anybody else, which isn't the case anymore. While when you watch this video, you feel like his feeling of moral superiority and growth above his audience is hitting you in the face through the screen, which was never the case with his past content.

[@adrianbrodin1319]

'hitting me in the face through the screen' Wow, I never knew Destiny fans could be this sensitive. He didn't even attack anyone, he just explains why he feels the way he does.

[@zacharybunker1135]

@@adrianbrodin1319 can't understand metaphors or exaggeration, not surprising

[@alexxel2166]

He's addressing his fans wishing for him to bring back his old self, simply explaining that he doesn't align with his edgy old self anymore. For the purpose of his video he had to explain why, i.e, pointing out his moral and personal growth. If that bothers anyone, it's their problem, not his.

[@adrianbrodin1319]

@@zacharybunker1135 I'm addressing the metaphor. ... Are you under the impression that I think he's punching his fans through their monitors? I think it's past bedtime for you buddy.

[@bozzie_]

@@adrianbrodin1319 you can’t even quote and interpret a quote correctly.

[@twentytwenty8653]

i respect that he's re-evaluating some of this because there was some stuff that was over the top and edgy to be edgy or a fight fire with fire mentality so thats nice, but he feels like hes stuck in some sort of pity/paralysis and its kind of sad and i think thats why chat is calling him soy so much, hes obviously confused and conflicted

[@fungdark8270]

He’s grown a lot, and his audience hasn’t. Idk I’m just starting I need to hop out of the comments lmao

[@REDDAWNproject]

​​@@fungdark8270 i think he hasn't grown at all, i think he's just laterally traversed. As someone who's never liked Ian or his content, it just comes off as him self flagellating and self fellating.

[@fungdark8270]

@@REDDAWNproject how is realising that you’ve hurt people for no good reason “laterally traversing?”

[@REDDAWNproject]

@@fungdark8270 when you view yourself now as having gained empathy and truly evolved and your past as an inhuman relic. That's not how personal growth works; ironically he might be setting himself up for an even more self destructive collapse in a few years. True growth is accepting the bad and stupid parts of your past; not trying to bury them because you view yourself now as morally superior. broadcasting these changes and self flagellation for some attempted redemption is just coping; its actually not addressing the root cause of your problems.

[@fungdark8270]

@@REDDAWNproject I didn’t watch the video, I assumed he WAS just addressing that he was allowing toxic aspects to have too large a part in his actions. The thing is it’s hard to talk about any level of “enlightenment” without giving an heir of superiority. We’ve got to listen to people say this and not hear “I’m good because I *did this* “ but “by some type of grace I’ve come to see myself differently, with more potential”

[@neubaufahrzeug9339]

This apology was way too much and basically calls out his fans who enjoyed his old content. It also now feels like he's actually morrally grandstanding now about how much better he is than his basement dwellingold fans of old. Could have just came out and said he disagrees with some of his old views and things are changing then kept it pushing.

[@jimmcnicholas9670]

Yes because some of his old content was toxic

[@weebtrash3376]

No he’s calling out his fans that want the old idubbbz back. Some of his shit definitely feel extremely outdated and cringe as you grow up but some of his fans can’t see that and are still stuck in their edgy ways, that’s who he’s calling out.

[@RealFreedomMG]

​@@jimmcnicholas9670 Was it though? From what I've seen which isn't a lot mind you was him making funny videos calling out bad content creators for doing bad things, making comedy skits with his friends and doing fan mail/unboxxing.

[@jimmcnicholas9670]

@@RealFreedomMG yes a lot of his videos were funny but some of his content was cringe like the tana content cop

[@neubaufahrzeug9339]

@@weebtrash3376 it doesn't just call out his fans who want old idubbs back it call out any fan who still likes his old content too. Any label he gives to his old content and the people who liked it applies to those who still do even if they don't care about bringing old idubbs back. If he's calling his old content toxic and racist while saying the fans back in the day were basement dwellers it's easy to see he would think very poorly of people who still like his old content.

[@cotopaximusic]

The biggest problem of it all is his ego and how self-important he is. Theres nothing wrong with changing or growing, thats what life is all about. But when you're sitting there apologizing for being an asshole while still being an asshole is where the insincerity comes from

[@williamcobbett4943]

He is high of his own farts

[@Dudezaawr]

I think he is kind of stuck. He has his platform that is built upon hateful content. For him to really be able to change, is to change the essence of his content, but doing so he will lose his audience. Idubbz would need to start a new YT-channel and start from the beginning or switch careers, which is way easier said than done. Hunter Avallone is a good example, where someone builds a platform of a certain type of audience and then switching content. He lost A LOT of viewers and took a heavy hit. But i respect him for actually doing the necessary change to stay true to his values.

[@TheAlburp]

@@Dudezaawr “Built upon hateful content” you’re just as delusional as him

[@Reqnr]

It's weird you see it that way.. I just don't think you agree with what he's saying now and so think it's ego

[@fungdark8270]

@@ReqnrI think people fail to understand what it means to talk about ego People that talk about the ego of others probably think they don’t have one or have it under wraps. That’s probably a huge mistake, as anyone criticizing someone else for being introspective likely doesn’t know that their ego is in control

[@axson8]

I swear at this point Alex Jones might be right, they are putting something in the water in L.A.

[@alphabetpeople2902]

I swear conservatives are not humans, never have been and never will be.

[@jacksyoutubechannel4045]

The big problem here is that it's like he wasn't even present for his own videos. He _wasn't_ unnecessarily mean (except _maybe_ to the Fine Bros.). He didn't make fun of people's appearances, as a general rule; he only did it to Leafy because Leafy's particular shtick, at that time, was mocking the appearance of random children on TikTok's forerunners. He said The Word at Tana's meet-and-greet because she was telling him to kill himself while having said the word herself, in _actually_ racist contexts. "Asian Jake Paul" targeted a guy who who asked a rape victim if she liked it, then, to show that _wasn't_ a jackass move, made a video where she came over to his house and pole danced for him while he shot a money gun at her. If iDubbz can't see anymore that he picked targets that _needed_ to be targeted (and his largest ones were usually people with a lot of child viewers for whom they were modeling horrific behavior) and assailed only the relevant parts of their character, he's got larger moral issues going on. Frankly, if Content Cops aren't okay, that just means it's not okay to make large creators look into the mirror of their content, or to ever hold them accountable, even in the most responsible way humanly possible. Which would be, I suppose, a pretty serious moral failing, if true.

[@hippipdip]

Dude should apologize for banning Sam Hyde from Creator Clash because he was mad he got out puppet-mastered while filming “Getting Away With It.”

[@thomaswalmsley8959]

Nah Sam Hyde is legit insane or at minimum the biggest wild card ever, I'm not sure I'd want him near any public even. Dude he trolled a Ted x speech years ago (which is funny for us consumers) but if you're an event organizer, dude is bad mojo.

[@thefutureisnowoldman7653]

​@@thomaswalmsley8959no he's not . He just offends up tight white liberal racist

[@spinosaurusstriker]

​@@thomaswalmsley8959wait thats it? I would invite him to every event then.

[@KarazolaX]

It's surprising how successfully he was able to pivot from Froggy Fresh, he took a big fat L on that and he's been able to get people to stop talking about it despite that being the entire reason this happened in the first place.

[@nwgverified]

Fake likes

[@NewMetaTV]

Kicking him off as far as i am aware of the situation was not only reasonable but the mature thing to do. Kids will always see stuff like that as an L but it was super understandable.

[@gooner_loomer]

lol it was the opposite of reasonable and mature, he kicked froggy off for associating with sam hyde and then made a video claiming that he kicked him off because of froggys reaction videos after the fact. anyone with more than half a brain can see though Ians disingenuous charade.

[@JohnDoe-kn7ex]

@@NewMetaTV Nah if you saw the dms between him and Froggy Fresh iDubbbz acted super weasley when Froggy tried to ask him if he would be banned for associating with Sam Hyde. I don’t blame him for the ban, but he should’ve been upfront with it instead of being a bitch.

[@SmokingDodo]

@@NewMetaTV eh sam Hyde was out 15K and most of the froggy stuff was posted after he was kicked. Kinda makes sense they were pissed. I lean somewhere in the middle with that

[@DirtCobaine]

People weren’t mad because Anisa had an only fans. People still to this day seem to forget that Anisa herself actively criticized and bullied other females with only fans, said she’s never get one and then gets one. And Ian as well criticized guys who had girlfriends with only fans as well as sex workers. That’s the whole point of it all even to this day, as that Anisa is a huge hypocrite and deserves a lot of criticism and Ian is coping with it by blaming his fanbase and going woke. To this day they are both hypocrites and are actively hypocrites. Just like Ethan. Yes the internet is a shit place but people don’t hate people for no reason.

[@joon3035]

Yeah but there also a lot of people that just call him a cuck

[@sessantasessanta]

Anisa was a Leafy fan, she was desperate for his attention on Twitter. She def liked edgy culture, she wanted to be associated with edgelords, she wanted a youtuber partner. Content cop on Tana is her idea. But now it's Idubbbz fault if shes getting hate online, poor girl did nothing wrong. She has controlling vibes, that's why I dislike her. She became Ian's voice, she menage Creator Clash, she wanted froggy out

[@terencebc]

@@sessantasessanta they both changed and stopped being edgy. Imagine that. But no the whamen controlling everything ought to be the narrative with you people

[@sessantasessanta]

@@terencebc Idubbbz is changed and he apologized, ok. waiting for anisa.

[@terencebc]

@@sessantasessanta it’s fine if you’re the part of the 1% that dislike her for that, but that’s objectively not why most people dislike her. People were just mad Ian “allowed” his wife to have an OF because it made him a cuck (it doesn’t, these people don’t know what words means). I was there when it happened, a decent chunks didn’t even know Ian had a gf/wife, they just then held on the whatever shitty things she did to justify why they hate her, which is just masking the actual reason. So yeah, she’s likely never apologize because all her actual past shitty actions are being ignored to instead people shitting on her for turning Ian into a beta woke cuck, which is idiotic

[@misc.glitchpodcastexcerpts6463]

It's interesting what people make of this scenario. IDubbbz was a really creative guy who didn't have confidence in his ability. So he used shock humor. Destroying Bibles and Qurans. And of course the slurs. He never needed any of those crutches to make content that millions of people would have willingly watched. Then he started going out with a girl who was very openly negative towards his success. All this is literally out in the open from live streams. Toxic marriage and relationship. It always follows the same path, someone becomes resentful of their partner and tries to "fix" them. And most times they turn them into a worse version of themselves. And one day they wake up and look at their partner and realize that they hate themselves. This self-flagellation is not true growth. It is a futile attempt to placate something broken. We already have like literally the perfect scenario that somebody abandoned their past ideas of humor without destroying any value they might have had. Joji. In real life you have to take the good with the bad. In real life you have to be able to forgive people and understand the value that they hold. If you don't have people around you the comprehend that then it will be replaced by some weird twisted doctrine derived second hand.

[@misc.glitchpodcastexcerpts6463]

It's also very interesting that the one time an idubbbz video crossed a social norm from shock comedy to harassment was Anisa's idea and she literally operated the camera. So this is projection plain and simple. I was curious so I watched some of anissa's past streams in literally she would do stuff like tell men how to hit on women at the gym. I'm sure if she had true introspection she would start to understand why she feels so strongly she needs to correct other people's behavior.

[@Idalych]

Missed opportunity for him to name the apology video “Content Cop: Idubbbz”

[@Frosty-oj6hw]

Apology videos like this are impossible to make without implicit moralizing at the same time. The message is that making, watching and enjoying that kind of content is bad because the acts themselves are bad, any by extension his fans for watching them for entertainment is also bad. Apologies are more appropriate when directly made to individuals you've harmed, it doesn't need to be radio broadcast for the entire world to see, doing so is clearly just virtue signaling for your new woke points and pushing whatever new moral ideology you have into other peoples faces about what is good or bad.

[@iansmart4158]

Are y’all serious? Destiny is the main guy who’s like “if it’s said publicly then keep the conversation public.” Idubbz spent years making videos with harmful rhetoric. What good would it do if he just DM’d Tana, especially if he’s more upset at his behavior and rhetoric instead of the actual criticism? He prolly still thinks Tana is vapid and hypocritical. The issue is, he empowered a bunch of weirdos online to bully a barely formed adult (and prolly plenty of less famous women like her). The apology is to speak to his fans. To tel them “I’m not your guy anymore. And I don’t rock wit the stuff y’all do on the internet.” Even if most will call him a virtue signaling Cuck, just like he had that experience with the trans fan…maybe hearing that from the guy you looked up to will change some ppl who like him. Maybe there will be a few dozen LESS dudes online screaming the N-word and calling only fans women hoes. Is that not something?

[@numbdun6472]

​@@iansmart4158 no. Stop being a cuck and leave 😂

[@voss9352]

oh man its like none of you have brains

[@jhonklan3794]

@@iansmart4158 People would be calling only fans womens hoes irrespective of Ian because thats literally what they are. You can think its fine, but that is what they are.

[@jemoah]

​@@iansmart4158FAX BRO

[@anonexe1318]

1.Papa Gut had a good point where he said this apology would've been better if he did a content cop on himself. it probably would have gone better with his fanbase than the generic apology video. To them this video probably loos like him giving up to "cancel culture" even though I don't think anyone was clamoring for a iDubbz apology. 2. I've noticed a couple people saying that he should've just went the filthy frank/joji route by not adressing his videos and just making new content. I'm not that familiar with FF's videos but i'm pretty sure he wasn't making cases for why saying the N word is ok. 3. I hate how he kinda dances around why some people dislike him, he talks alot about content cop but people had problems with him saying the n word and making cases for its use. Shawn cee recently spoke about how around 2017 a bunch of iDubbz fans were in his comments defending his use of the word.

[@vmrc_994]

Tbh I'm not American nor black so I can't really understand the impact of the n word but Frank's videos were arguably worse. Idubbbz would critique and think about things way more critically. Frank's videos felt like he was just going around being edgy just for the sake of it. Dude went around NYC hunting for dead rats and using them in his comedy. Pretty vile stuff looking back at it.

[@oliverhardman3513]

​@@vmrc_994 i feel ya but wasnt that the joke?

[@neonhvit]

I came for Destiny's take on this, not Mia Khalifa 's 💀

[@pinkside692]

Good thing she just sits there and looks confused the whole time. Why is she here?

[@Section8dc]

​@@pinkside692 Cuz Coomer Steve Thot Slayer💪

[@sessantasessanta]

Anisa was a Leafy fan, she was desperate for his attention on Twitter. She def liked edgy culture, she wanted to be associated with edgelords, she wanted a youtuber partner. Content cop on Tana is her idea. But now it's Idubbbz fault if shes getting hate online, poor girl did nothing wrong. She has controlling vibes, that's why I dislike her. She became Ian's voice, she runs Creator Clash, she wanted froggy out.

[@55thstreet66]

"She has controlling vibes" dog you do not know her on a personal level. In what world do you know the details of her life with Ian or creator clash. You are terminally online get help lil bro.

[@sessantasessanta]

@@55thstreet66 "You are terminally online get help" dog you don't know me oN a PerSoNal LevEL

[@55thstreet66]

@@sessantasessanta LMAO bro got mad

[@TNTspaz]

@@55thstreet66 I mean tbf. How much shit does one person have to pubically do for you to do a double take and realize they might be the one with the problem. She treated idubbbz like shit so often on stream that there were compilations about it

[@REDDAWNproject]

I'll be honest, the trans story he tells is kinda hilarious. "Hey I know you've never talked about my experiences, but i think you'd hate me. Anyways, could i get an autograph?" Like... what the fuck? Who the hell thinks like this?! This whole story is just deeply insecure people.

[@alphabetpeople2902]

Conservatives hate everybody.

[@xbabu142x]

imagine over hearing that convo. sneako would leegiot turn into the unabomber lol

[@huliohuliohamijo]

When you hear a man say he used to be pathetic and a bad person and now he is not because of his wife/girlfriend, you know what's going on.

[@boj353boy]

What? Please explain to us.

[@-imperatorinsomnia-6163]

@@boj353boy They're still a bad person. Reminds me of when Christians say without God they'd be mega-awful monsters. Also, he's p-whipped.

[@boj353boy]

@@-imperatorinsomnia-6163" he's p-whipped" thank you for proving his point

[@nikolaitheundying]

​@@boj353boy is he wrong though?

[@Hoodiewitdaboogie]

Destiny thinking that because someone watches idubbz content they haven’t gone out and gotten real world experience because they’re too busy watching him is crazy.

[@amazin7006]

It's not about real world experience, it's about the right real world experience.

[@end.olives]

​@@amazin7006 ogaa boga hu ha ha

[@roarbertbearatheon8565]

Damn you mean Destiny gave a wild and short sighted take about something? Stop the presses man

[@amazin7006]

@@end.olives ^most intellectually capable Sam Hyde fan.

[@dhrigby]

It's really great that a nice lady adopted iDubbz. Everyone needs a Mum.

[@MayhemMercenary]

Ian says that he was "insecure and pathetic" (15:52) before Anisa came along and inspired him to do boxing. If I was in a relationship with someone who described themselves as "pathetic" before meeting me, it would be a red flag. I think Anisa has had a lot to do with how Ian has changed based on how he speaks of himself and her, or maybe I am overanalzying 🤷‍♂

[@tjshaver855]

Perfect amount of analyzing and a correct analysis.

[@DomCoreLeon]

I never realized how much Farta tries to hear Destiny/Hasans opinion before giving her own. She ask so consistently that it comes off as "scared" to give the wrong take even if its your genuine feeling. That may not be the case but thats the vibe it gives

[@victoriaodegaard1]

Maybe she doesn’t have strong immediate opinions and she listens to others to see if that makes sense to her 🤷‍♀️ young people thing.

[@dudemate3363]

I think she felt weird that Destiny kept asking her opinion while not saying anything himself for most of the video. She was a bit careful but she did give her opinion without waiting for Destiny. If I'm watching something with a friend and he keeps asking what I think of it without giving his opinion after it, I'm gonna start feeling like he's testing me or just being sarcastic.

[@badabingbing474]

He beats women off screen

[@michaelh13]

The next edgy kid who has to read Catcher in the Rye for a school assignment will try to kill Idubbz

[@sammyismuff]

Oddly specific but surprisingly on point

[@xbabu142x]

Well he better not be near the rye then, so that way he won't be cuaght

[@iammrpositive5108]

You don't just unlock empathy. That's not how this works lol

[@oliverhardman3513]

Bro talks about personality trains like a video game stat

[@xbabu142x]

I traded a party hat for mine

[@soccastar001]

The irony of them saying idubbz is low energy when the two of them have no energy or chemistry at all.

[@Shin_Akumi]

Lol destiny debates real people. Does lots of travelling and has 3somes😂 prob has more energy than you

[@sshadyh]

maybe in this video but if u watch destiny and farha enough they have a unique chemistry and destiny at least has a lot of energy

[@spinosaurusstriker]

Just like icuckz and anissa

[@im1085]

He hasnt changed hes just gonna from pretending to be better than others in an edgy way to pretending to be better than others in a woke way. Hes the same person

[@vindikaktus]

Damn can you tell me his favorite color also? Given that you can peer into his mind and all

[@Section8dc]

​@@vindikaktus it used to be blue buts its neon pink now

[@Jay-kk3dv]

On point

[@sdjslkdjlsskldjslkdjsl8262]

you don't "learn empathy" in your 30s. That's just not how it works. Ian learned cultural anxiety over being associated with incels.

[@thereccher8746]

If only CriticalDrinker and Officer Tatum had that same anxiety.

[@TheOmmW]

I feel like Destiny has a “told ya so” attitude here. Back then Ethan, Ian, Pewdiepie, Filthy Frank all became a huge boom on KZbin for their “edgy” humor, meanwhile Destiny debates Jontron to expose that this “edgy humor” is not just jokes. Now that they want to be all libbed up, Destiny hangs out with everyone in the redpill sphere.

[@n8m102]

Just because Jon trim wasn’t smart enough to understand they were jokes doesn’t mean that everyone else has to go down with him

[@vulcanh254]

I think he's right about the bullying thing. It has been normalized too much to a point where people are ok with bullying someone if they think the other person is a monster and deserves it. And sure I can agree to some extent that some people deserve to be shamed and insulted. For example not many people would feel sorry for Logan Paul being bullied. However the problem is the bigotry. Because these days pretty much every conservative and liberal is considered evil by the far left, so that means in their mind it's ok to bully them, censor them, steal from them or even assault them. Same with "karens" aka white women. There's always an excuse, a reason why it's ok to make an exception for this and that person. That's the issue. And I hope guys like Charlie will mature and realize it sooner or later because I agree with idubbz that what Charlie does is sometimes evil. Just because I greatly disagree with Sneako on some topic doesn't mean Sneako deserves to be bullied. Same for MrGirl, Lav and even Fuentes. To me someone only deserves to be bullied if they themselves bully others or if they did something horrible / illegal.

[@adrianbrodin1319]

This comment section(at the time of writing) is dumb as nails. It's obvious why he would feel negatively about some of his work and what it motivated people to think and do.

[@DarkAuraLord]

That is not his responsibility, period. The content wasn't made for kids, and every adult is capable of exercising autonomy and responsibility for their choices. Blaming him for that is like blaming an Author for a school shooter or a suicide. People make art and sometimes people use that art to try and justify shitty things, but that's not the fault of the artist. Idubbz made COMEDY KZbin VIDEOS. He's not some fucking cult leader, he's a fucking JESTER. 😐

[@adrianbrodin1319]

​@@DarkAuraLord People used his art to justify what his art was created to justify. Nobody is saying he is the only one responsible, but that he contributed. And he agrees. If anything, he is attempting to exercise responsibility of the choices that he made through apologizing. If your argument is that adults can't be swayed one way or the other, I'm still waiting for your evidence to back this up.

[@spinosaurusstriker]

Its not obvious, its dumb.

[@IfYouNeedAnEdge]

Think people kinda forget some of Anisa’s history there was drama way back in the day because she used to date Akaadian (2017ish era League of Legends pro jungler) and cheated on him with Idubbbz. At the time the guys performance dropped off the face of a cliff, and he ended up leaving his team (Echo Fox) citing mental health issues (believe he still works in the same scene). Around the same time she had a bad reputation of stealing art/not crediting artists for their art used in her videos if I’m remembering correctly. Tbh a lot of the people who criticize her do come off sexist but there are legitimate reasons lol

[@workingscribe7929]

I'd like to point out the irony of the fact that in his Leafy video the thesis more or less boiled down to "don't dish out what you can't take". Meanwhile he's course correcting after the fact because he started getting a dose of his own medicine.

[@pcntpcnt]

na, its not that he couldnt take the backlash, his views just changed over time

[@workingscribe7929]

​@@pcntpcnt going by his description of events it doesn't seem like those changes really started to happen until the edgy humor he made a living from started effecting him personally. Then again I don't know the guy so maybe I'm just being cynical

[@TheJoethud22]

@@pcntpcnt bull shit

[@Tubeytime]

Man, I'm glad most people who watch this don't think like these comments talk. Idubbz is human and he's doing a good job at it.

[@TecTitan]

It's like Ian got hit by mortal kombat finisher that tore out his spine

[@bubbaliburtee8657]

That woman is a practitioner of Eastern black magic

[@alphabetpeople2902]

All conservatives are.

[@michaelholshouser6248]

Dude is too rich to have any real problems.

[@xbabu142x]

Farha nailed it. In order to be woke you gotta have no self esteem is his message.

[@jhonklan3794]

This what happens when you confuse self-flagalation with maturity. When self-hatred is the highest virtue.

[@phoboskittym8500]

He met a progressive girl and wants to change.

[@dryr-mp4pp]

Men will contort themselves in any way necessary to simp for mid

[@anshulp204]

it was his "progressive" girlfriends idea to go say the N word infront of Tana.

[@whiteflame24]

@@anshulp204 that definitely was not her idea she’s capping hard trying to take credit for pretty much his most viral moment lmao

[@BananaPhoPhilly]

@@whiteflame24 Hmmm they did meet before that video so idk

[@backwardsbandit8094]

Just to clarify; Anisa was the one who came up with the idea for Idubbbz to go to Tana's meetup and say the n-word. Shes the one holding the camera in that video. The idea that she's turned him "woke" is insane. Its hard for some younger idubbbz fans and/or nostalgic fans to accept that they've both changed, but blaming Anisa is stupid.

[@thefutureisnowoldman7653]

No you're wrong. She made him woke

[@ThankYouStayedHere]

It's fine if idubbbz wants to change his content, but this self flagellation arc is giving me secondhand embarrassment

[@tovpp7]

People are overly critical of this video and people who claim to be level headed seem to be almost defensive of this apology video. He apologized and felt bad, he doesn’t like his extreme edgy and immature fans. It feels really nitpicky and odd, people are attacking a guy saying sorry using slurs LMAO

[@kerwynpk]

This is an argument of apathy 'He's just being nice why do you care' passing off criticism as 'nitpicky' is an actual meme btw And he's actually not, he's specifically admonishing his previous position, and specifically anyone who holds those opinions which he also blames himself for (lol) He isn't responsible for what his audience does either, if a deranged person does something wrong and blames you for 'inciting' their crime with a goofy youtube video are you seriously accountable? Idubbs says 'previously I was morally grandstanding with content cop' He most certainly was not, he actively pointed out where his critique was potentially hypocritical, his own flaws and justified his criticisms it in the (goofy) internet video. This is not bullying or harassment, there's plenty of legal precedence helping us figure the meaning of those terms. The funny thing is He IS morally grandstanding now, in that video 'Im just more mature guys' Is no longer recognizing that context matters in the use of offensive language somehow more mature? Lol

[@danielsurvivor1372]

A good example of an edgy content creator going out on his term, without cringe or trying to take down old audience is FilthyFrank, aka Joji. He doesn't even hate his old content, there was a guy dressed as pink guy and he didn't lose his sht seeing him. Idubbbz could've been another Joji, or Sam Hyde. He refused either path and now he's trying to double down on his mistakes, what a shame 😕

[@anonexe1318]

i might be wrong, but i haven't seen any videos of joji defending the use of the n word

[@anonexe1318]

like does joji have videos like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/apncg2CJnZKKb7c

[@xp7575]

​@@anonexe1318true

[@braxtonkoller1060]

@@anonexe1318 well, as a Japanese man he did flagrantly use it so I’m sure it’s pretty safe to say he agrees with that sentiment

[@SupaDupaDanga]

​@@anonexe1318frank and idubbbz made content after the fact together, and frank said the word. And a lot of people held and still held the sentiment idubbbz expressed back then, I wouldn't be surprised if frank had some beliefs akin to that

[@EL-Nope]

I guess this is the concept of "Pulling the ladder up behind you"

[@henhousecannibalstudios310]

Lol the Internet can’t be so bottomlessly edgy that it gives Idubzz more hatred for this apology than his past content .. lol it’s bad

[@Odd1RoBoT]

Yeah this comment section lacks so much self-awareness. Common destiny fan base response

[@dudemate3363]

I think it's important to keep in mind when he released those videos? Internet was way more edgy, insensitive and so on, so apoligizing like you're solely responsible fot that is as Farha said just way overkill.

[@TheDsLeet]

​@@Odd1RoBoT I think Idubbbz is the one that lacks self-awareness. His apology comes off as overwhelmingly remorseful and looks wierd considering the energy he had for FroggyFresh just a couple of weeks ago

[@spinosaurusstriker]

I may scam 8yr olds, but at least im not rude!

[@tuckerdixon8032]

The worst part of new Idubbz is his terrible choices in tattoos. They don't work for him. His anemic chest eagle is crazy.

[@Section8dc]

They are terrible honestly

[@tomtom3576]

Good for him. He’s trying to be a different person.

[@corriethomson4431]

Yeah but different can mean better or worse, clearly he chose worse.

[@Meltdownlv100]

​@@corriethomson4431 how?

[@lighting7508]

@@Meltdownlv100 content is boring

[@spinosaurusstriker]

​@@Meltdownlv100content is boring, and the whole froggy fresh situation shows he is jsut a petty person

[@normalcitizen]

it wasnt even that bad bruh

[@user-gv1ud2oq1w]

"I have to live with this for the rest of my life" Dudes acting like he shot someone, you made vids on the internet bro chillll LMAOO

[@Saltyoldguy-]

Can we just stop giving power to slurs?

[@watch-Dominion-2018]

lol why

[@masterofreality230]

People need their fix of fake outrage, and slurs are just too easy to pretend to be outraged over.

[@masterofreality230]

@@watch-Dominion-2018 I like slurs because of the reaction I get out of them, if there was no reaction, and no one cared, it would not be fun anymore.

[@watch-Dominion-2018]

@@masterofreality230 well duh. Back in my day, sonny jim, of Halo 1 - 3, slurs were basic sentence structure. It's only in recent years that cuck words like Toxic, Bigot, Hate, etc, have cropped up coz a few select people want the power to cancel others

[@bartoszkrawczyk5921]

@@watch-Dominion-2018 I think encouraging people to have a visceral reaction to being called a slur is a bad idea. Sure, calling someone a slur is sh*tty thing go do. But flippling out about it is exactly what whoever insults you wants. Ignoring them will either shut them up, or make them go nuts more. But it won't give them power, and over time, god willing, make them stop using it.

[@shiftdb]

Mf's acting like Ian was crying and on his knees. This video was fine. This shit is not that deep ffs.

[@vindikaktus]

I mean just look at the chat, Destiny's audience seems like the exact type of people to feel personalty attacked by this video

[@xbabu142x]

Bruh the zero self-esteem/confidence is not how you a serious video about apologizing or esp political suff.

[@spinosaurusstriker]

And i thought ian fans were the ones lacking social skills, you guys would see a sky filled with dark clouds and act surprised when s thunder hits.

[@ThatCheekyWalrus]

His new content isn't even boring though, Save the Squirrels initiative are some of my favorite videos from him, he just never fucking posts anymore.

[@DaFifaKid]

idubzz pretending ppl are mad about content cops (which were pretty much always in good faith and simply pointed out the bad behavior of the person) and not him saying N-word f-word etc

[@soccastar001]

So sick of people making their career and earning tons of wealth and fame on "edgy" content then pulling up the ladder after. Even if this is sincere, which I doubt it is, I just don't think you should be able to do it. You're locked in. You made your bag on a certain kind of content then he's basically coming out and saying, that was fucked and nobody else should be able to do it.

[@palaven4048]

I wouldn't say you're "locked in" to doing edgy content, but it's definitely fucked up to act sanctimonious and pull the ladder up behind you like you said. Filthy Frank is the textbook example of how to transition your content well.

[@marcoaravena130]

I find this to be a really toxic mindset, people can change. Altough i do agree that the apology is really cringe.

[@SmokingDodo]

@@palaven4048 destiny would be another example

[@deep_and_profound_topics]

this may be the funniest way to misuse the phrase “pulling up the ladder” i’ve ever seen. this comment section is pure gold where are you people even coming from

[@palaven4048]

@@deep_and_profound_topics How exactly is it a misuse of the term? He literally got rich and successful off edgy content and when that stops being profitable for him he claims it was wrong? What else would you call that?

[@vesuvius2444]

Idubbz passing the N word torch to Destiny

[@sigmada6436]

I'm sure there isn't a coincidence that he 'grew out of it' only when that type of content was demonotised. If he didn't like making them, or want to make them, why did he try to make a content cop style video on Sam Hyde? My assessment is he thought it would be a safe target that he could make fun of and 'expose' without being labeled all the ists and isms.

[@pinkside692]

And he absolutely fumbled the ball with that video. Sam Hyde managed to make Ian the joke. He went way too hard to paint Sam as a sociopath and completely missed the joke. That was the final nail.

[@lancevance6346]

Punking sam successfully would've gained him clout with Hasan and that sphere of onliners. It flopped though so now he says he hates Sam and wants nothing to do with him. It's not just his old fans that hate him. The internet has just smelled blood on him to troll him perpetually for being so petty.

[@TNTspaz]

@@pinkside692 Tbh. The same video has actually made me agree with Ian. He does genuinely seem to be a sociopath. Which he seems to be describing himself as

[@LeonardoGPN]

Nah, people on KZbin just want an excuse to bully others. You can criticize someone without humiliating this person, you want to humiliate because it makes you feel better about your own insecurities. KZbinrs are coping so hard on the mirror Ian uncovered.

[@TheInfectous]

to be honest idubbz is absolutely right about everything he says in this apology, it's very funny to watch and the context of someone just coming out and saying this shit in an apology video is what makes it so but it doesn't change the fact that you are responsible for your content, you do have influence over your viewers and profiteering off of kids by using humor which promotes harmful mentalities is well, bad. I think the reason this comes off as skeptical to some people is because he's actually being very honest, more honest than most people are with themselves. I would liken this to the classic "oh you think you're better than me" type reaction, people don't like being shown that actually caring about others is an option because it's something they know they themselves don't do.

[@xbabu142x]

Yeah his promotiion of needing to have zero self esteem to be proressive is beautifully done.

[@koolarooo]

I’ll never forgive content cop for killing all those kids at that school

[@TrizollinTehWorld]

He's going through his white guilt arc. I'm black and I watched his videos for years because I thought he was funny. Never once did I think he was racist or bigoted. He was simply edgy in the era that edgy was in. Don't get me wrong, it's cool that he's apologizing but he's going a little too hard on himself. Also his wife clearly molded him and that's not inherently bad but I feel like she wears the pants in their relationship.

[@DoubleO88]

Agreed but no it's not cool he's apologizing, like you said, he was being edgy at an edgy time, it's like Robert Downey Jr coming out now and apologizing for doing "blackface" in Tropic Thunder or Jim Carrey coming out and apologizing for playing a likable "transphobic" character in Ace Ventura, it was a different time.

[@makashinga3130]

I’m black too and I’ve also seen his videos. He should be apologizing for his racist comments because whether or not he meant them he still encouraged the use of slurs to impressionable children and teenagers. I know this first hand because kids who weren’t black were using slurs when I was in middle school because “it’s just a word”.

[@jrobins5622]

​@@makashinga3130 well I'M black and I disagree so you're wrong! Jk, but (and not to say the idea of him apologizing is bad) but it sounds like you need an apology from those edgy kids in middle school more than Idubbz. Sure, that's *partly* his fault, but ultimately it's due to people not being able to interpret his message correctly. So really the apology should be "I'm sorry i wasn't more clear" or "I'm sorry that I didn't forsee this" as opposed to "I'm sorry I ever did these things at all". But it seem like Idubbbz has totally flipped his opinion on slurs anyway.

[@danielcristianescobar8157]

Idubbz saying he “indoctrinated” people is a bit of a reach.

[@xbabu142x]

Yeah I went to Catholic Private School where they hit us if we got stuff wrong. I'm sorry IDubbz ya didn't have much oif an impact on way or another

[@wez3107]

Kurtis Conner is so different here

[@hermit8244]

Feels like a lotta the comments are from ex fans who feel a bit called out or demonized(which they were a bit) and using that to call this insincere.

[@hermit8244]

@The One it's true I haven't followed it that closely, but that's kinda lends itself to the idea that it's the ex fans who seem scorned. Maybe they are rightfully feeling scorned cause as I said he did kinda demonize his old fans a bit, but feels like half the comments are focusing on the demonizing of the old fans and using that to say he isn't sincere. He can both be sincere and still be demonizing them, which is why I think using that as evidence feels like it's coming from feeling called out. Do admit tho I might not have enough background info, just saying what I feel.

[@Onestroke]

This comment section is cringe

[@overtherenowaitthere]

i think it's interesting that he takes this so seriously like he was a former murderer, when he just made edgy videos. like it's so self aggrandizing, it's almost masturbatory. "omg i was such a badass guy in the past, but im reformed. just be glad I'm on your side now uhghghghh"

[@alphabetpeople2902]

Conservatives are murderers, you have committed countless genocides.

[@sammyismuff]

Where are all my black friends at? I want to pass on idubbbz’ apology to you… sorry :)

[@tumultoustortellini]

🤮 I'd rather have old idubbz than new Idubbz. Atleast he wasn't depressing, racist jokes or not.

[@rinneganofrage7206]

the Majority of this content Was them sitting in silence and watching the video this react content is outta control and i hope Destiny gets seriously reprehended for it

[@ignotuscapillary8313]

Well no, the first half was and then the second half was him breaking down his thoughts. I think that's fine for react content because he's still giving a meaningful reaction to it.

[@rinneganofrage7206]

@@ignotuscapillary8313 that is not transformative enough to be fair use. It’s like if someone streamer A entire Movie and then talked about his opinion on it afterwards

[@SuperSayinSolidSnek]

​​@@rinneganofrage7206 so? Do something about it

[@rinneganofrage7206]

@@SuperSayinSolidSnek like what

[@MsExmen]

Holy, what the hell happened. This is too much lol Most of these people did deserve a call to attention like that.

[@chrisrich7166]

I sincerely appreciate the apology as a younger person with pretty thick *black* skin I was hurt by a couple of videos that he made... I feel @Destiny and friend may not have seen enough of his content or cannot directly relate to the crowds he offended in the past. this is the firrst iffy take ive heard from Destiny personally.

[@xbabu142x]

This feels like a sincere video to you thoguh?= well if you younmger kids thinmk its sincere guess its ok then

[@venusaloha77]

🙌

[@brockwhite8699]

Destiny’s concern with people appearing “soy cuck” seems like a bit of projection.

[@deep_and_profound_topics]

it’s interesting that destiny combines politics that are preoccupied with notions of tolerance, compassion, equity etc with a genuinely mean-spirited and apathetic personality. imo it often results in these kinds of facile conclusions of his where, even without having any substantive disagreements whatsoever, he takes issue with the remorseful tone, the apologetic nature, the appeasement of potentially alienated black or gay viewers.

[@sohkrazed]

now hes on twitch streaming WoW. CHANGED MAN

[@mjay0019]

Well, considering that he casually used slurs typically towards gay people and Black people I liked the fact that he specifically apologized to black people if he genuinely had regret in his heart. I don’t think it’s a big deal that he did that. I remember when I was a teenager I used a slur in a song I made towards gay people, and when I got older, I regretted it and I made a public apology for the offensive things I used to say. Nobody pressured me to do that. I just wanted to get it out there just in case anybody tries to use it against me because that’s not how I genuinely feel in my heart. No big deal.

[@revanwitter8501]

So in other words you hurt people with your words and then you felt bad and so you apologized and those words made you feel better...it's almost like since no one asked for it it probably only mattered to you but at least you can move on and put that moment of homophobia behind u bless you heart

[@mjay0019]

@@revanwitter8501 kinda, I guess in my head, I just thought that the apology would be more genuine if I apologize now without any pressure to do so because people can always hear the song later on and be offended by it and I just want them to know that that’s not how I feel today and I regret doing that in the past.

[@revanwitter8501]

It won't be though cause you are seeking forgiveness from yourself not your wronged party. Ohh and hot take bro who cares it sounds like you don't think it was appropriate so just say that if someone asks. Gotta learn to accept what we are an not seek out others to forgive the shit we think is wrong but that's just how I see it

[@mjay0019]

@@revanwitter8501 ok fair enough.

[@xbabu142x]

Why did hhe make this look like an ISIS hostage video tho

[@boolin6868]

It was Anissa's idea for him to go to the Tana Mongeau event. So they have been together for a while now.

[@zeno4538]

Nah i think his apology is good. He was honest about his feelings which is good. I don't think it was over kill, if he feels this way he feels this way. His feelings and regret is very reasonable.

[@xbabu142x]

How do you trust the words of a person that has zero self-esteem and confidence?

[@zeno4538]

@@xbabu142x I'm judging his apology with the assumption he is being honest. I don't actually know though. I could be wrong. Technically we can't truly trust anything anyone says ever. Taking everything ive seen of him, how he speaks about his past even not long after the N word thing, how his actions have changed, i think it's likely he is being honest. He does seem embarrassed and ashamed by his past.

[@jhonklan3794]

You are right about the black trans thing. Its unclear what the organization actually does.

[@AyubuKK]

When he said he’ll donate money to an organization I lost it. This apology video is fine but that sounded so silly.

[@DaFifaKid]

12:35 ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND there it is folks.... the admission that this video WAS SOLELY because of ppl making jokes about his wife, he doesnt actually care about his old content, he just wants the current jokes to stop.

[@henhousecannibalstudios310]

Come on dude, you can’t laugh at him for saying “sorry to any black viewers” feeling shame for public racism and expressing it publicly has got to be appreciated in any space that would try to consider it self intellectually honest ..

[@revanwitter8501]

Get that shit outta here we be gatekeeping bad takes out here you sir shall not pass!

[@jrobins5622]

I mean he wasn't really racist, but yeah ig if he's of that opinion then the statement makes sense. Still funny to hear though

[@xbabu142x]

I mean besides online suiper progressive black spaces this would be insulting and I'm not talking nonm academia I am talkikg computational chemisty in the industry. this is not intellecutal honesty, it's once again peak naracissm, and performative . Do you want me to bring this up at the meeting. Since they're late 20s early 30s as well. Funny thing though, this set unironically are in s uper healthy relationships with going to the gym together, just the most chicken soup for the soul posting possible. This stiff os likke CBT porn hardcore. if you re into it fine otheriwse it's spiritually disturbing I kid you not on the relationships, their families super into Tyler Perry movies, so all of them just did not want any of that lmao. Good for them though lol

[@spinosaurusstriker]

Hello my fellow african americans.

[@Darklordiban7]

Dick Masterson made the best point on this. Nothing has really changed considering the way he has been treating people lately. He is just adopting the most socially acceptable version of that in this time, just like H3H3. He was always disingenuous.

[@micah459]

I don't find anything wrong with his apology tbh but maybe that's because I personally didn't watch previous his content. I will say that people shouldn't be attacking his wife because she hasn't really done anything wrong but people feel big behind a keyboard

[@QWERTY-du4hc]

So he's going to apologize to people like keemstar and leafyishere right? Is he going to apologize to ricegum? I'm not saying they deserve it, but obviously not. Pretty sure this is just a realigning of politics for whatever reason.

[@austiniscoolduh]

I love how he goes "im not going to be hypocritical in this video ..." then proceeds to be extremely hypocritical. Anyways, his GF is clearly a narcissist, its interesting how narcissists are able to completely manipulate and brainwash other weak-minded people like idubbz. Its even easier for her since hes some low t dude who is desperate for a girl lol

[@bingus1329]

Bro really said "some low t dude"

[@eyjay1508]

@@bingus1329 Dude cried in public after getting beat up vs an opponent he handpicked.

[@warrenellis1023]

Yeah, I thought I never heard of this dude either, until I realized it was just Jessie Eisenberg getting into character for some internet troll movie. Trolls 3?

[@saphricpcgaming5182]

I thought the apology is fine. Destiny just has abnormally low empathy due to the internet and other factors and feels like heartfelt apologies hurt his ego.

[@55thstreet66]

I would argue that self diagnosed autism Destiny in way feels attacked by Ian's apology cause he used slurs more often back then. Not only that he died on the N word hill a couple years back and has since doubled down. So he called it "soy cucked" which is funny because he's latching onto red pill rhetoric.

[@Rex13013]

They were dating before the content cops, they were public about he even appeared on her streams being silly then leaving so people knew about it

[@DoubleO88]

Was she doing Only Fans during that time?

[@Rex13013]

@@DoubleO88 No

[@Rex13013]

@@DoubleO88 She actually criticized girls who do that kind of content so it's kinda ironic

[@DoubleO88]

@@Rex13013 Interesting, wonder if there's a correlation there.

[@Rex13013]

@@DoubleO88 There is, but any criticism directed at a woman is automatically sexism apparently lol

[@SirDumplin]

Isnt the best way is to not apologize. Since if you do your haters will say you only apologize because he getting hate for it and think is fake.

[@seanhollibaugh3776]

The goal is to make ammends and excise toxic members of his community, not please his haters, I doubt he gives a fuck what they think.

[@Shin_Akumi]

Yeah, I think ur meant to acknowledge it, but never apologise. Keep it moving forward, never take a step back with the media. It's why Trump is so popular, never apologises, he acknowledges it, and says "and what?" Lol 😂 it's probably a good tactic

[@SirDumplin]

@@Shin_Akumi yeah my bad, bad wording, thanks for clarifying it for me.

[@Shin_Akumi]

@@SirDumplin I wasn't trying to undermine your message mate, just wanted to add my 2 cents to the discussion 🤙🏼🤜 you worded it fine