The Problem with Double Clicking and Drag Clicking

[@IntelEdits]

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[@babajimobile48]

Yay

[@Astralr]

Pog

[@arandomnoob6309]

3rd reply

[@Vincent43534]

@Josiah Osgood mhm

[@ohayohorai]

6th comment let's go

[@raisin1]

I am glad he did add the “in my opinion” at the start and really is a reason why i respect him, he does not hate on people for tapping plastic in a certain way

[@radio_active_man6320]

true

[@wootenz7759]

marcel has been real quiet after this dropped...

[@raisin1]

@@wootenz7759 lmao

[@5ymbo]

LOL TAPPING PLASTIC

[@Notsrichu]

My mouse is wooden…

[@kimcoolryu3336]

And then the next day is a Bedless noob colab

[@gadaye7770]

Lol

[@MrMozzFellow]

xD

[@themegarext1209]

@@jaimejr bruh get a life and shut up

[@philliphan1208]

LOLllollol

[@BuzzArgent]

AHAHAHA

[@lucasmosquera1482]

I think they should make mice that double click HOWEVER they should have adjustable debounce times like the model o so depending on the game you can have double clicks or no double clicks

[@bencarter8692]

I think that this comment is great because other than people just saying what intel said in the vid your stating your own idea which happens to be a good one compared to the "Servers should ban double clicking" because I know people that have over $300 in mice and if servers banned double clicking those mice would be pointless

[@yeti0iq519]

But also high end mice are starting to use optical switches and the debounce time can't really change much

[@lucasmosquera1482]

@@yeti0iq519 Not all mice have optical switches I don’t think every mice have to double click but I think the selection should get bigger like for example most Logitech mice don’t double click because of debounce times so if we give the option of double clicking to Logitech mice they could be used for other clicking styles. The optical switches 4 razer will be challenging so the only option I see is that for their mice some have different switches for each mice and it tells u on the box but I don’t see that happening.

[@myyols]

That’s a good compromise

[@shadow1fun777]

@@yeti0iq519 the g pro super light and starlight 12 (the 2 most expensive mice) are still omrons

[@Tryhard_]

Funny how some people can’t take some criticism and dislike the video instantly because they probably drag click/double click LOL

[@kingannihilator8386]

ogmogmomgogmgomgogom real tryhard!!!!!!!!!

[@Aespha]

LOL

[@SheikhDrip]

True facts

[@ekoto214]

Tryhard you are everywhere

[@oceanolol]

true, as someone who can drag/doubleclicks i can confirm that 99% of the others who can either cheat or are complete idiots

[@oweniskool9700]

“It will register 2 or 3 clicks” Bloody: Hold my mouse

[@real_5ft1O]

No it should be 'hold up, wait a minute '😂😂

[@Showa_G_Fan]

thats a good joke i guess nice

[@tkkam1139]

Here’s my opinion on the subject! I completely agree with the not advertising the risks and stuff, and that double clicking is an advantage. Here’s where I disagree though. I think that despite it being an advantage because it’s limited to certain mice, it’s still fine. Here’s why: 1; It doesn’t provide a major improvement or advantage, and its main use is for bridging and looking cool; 2; The argument of advantage can be made about anything, for instance in Rocket league, a controller is easier then a keyboard and mouse, so should we ban controllers? Or when ninja bridging, a mechanical keyboard can be clicked faster then a membrane, thus allowing a faster ninja bridging, should mechanical keyboards be banned? I definitely agree that left mouse button should be capped, but as for right, I personally don’t see any issue with people getting insane clutches or godbridging. As for the whole gate-keeping thing, I can’t really say you’re wrong. But at the same time, that’s just a bridging community. The argument of not having a lot of mice that can double click is kinda meh. If people want to sacrifice their comfort for more cps, that seems fine to me. Everyone has a different list of wants. For instance, you like really light mice that can jitter click well. For me, I prefer a really good drag clicking mouse as it’s a big part of my content. I own both an abedless and model o, so when playing other games I just switch to model o. These are just my opinions on the subject, but lemme know if anyone has other ideas. Oh and a final touching point, if hypixel were to not allow double clicking, it would lose a very large amount of people. Think about it, 300k bedless subs, tons of shotgunraids viewers, and LOADS of channels with 10-50k subs who do insane clutches and bridging.

[@9Arro_]

i completley agree with this, and this is a very well thought out and amazing comment (and very long LMAO)

[@tkkam1139]

@@9Arro_ sup my guy (tapes server)

[@9Arro_]

@@tkkam1139 oh right hi myrical lol

[@CrazyMuncho]

Vouch

[@randomusername284]

*shotgunraids music starts playing*

[@luketucker6802]

'soon there will be no more double clicking mice' RIGHT EVERYONE GET A LOGITECH OFFICE MOUSE

[@ScottieYanes]

Dude this is underrated HAHAHA

[@JaredPascual]

I legit have a logitech mouse and it's pretty decent

[@spanishlessonswithandy406]

already have and use one XD

[@chanced6606]

i have one lol

[@diogenes6909]

@@spanishlessonswithandy406 is it the b100 xD? i used it but somehow the internals are garbage after 5 years and it disconnects 24/7

[@robloxgaming6200]

The most annoying part about double clicking for me as someone who plays competitive bedwars is the annoying meta that is butterflying 20, becoming a brick and winning every fight. This isn't really as much of an issue on practice servers but I feel like it should be enforced better. Other than that I don't really care if you use it for right clicking

[@medkatyt]

“This isn’t much of an issue on practice servers” OH YES IT IS

[@Cookienose]

Breaking news: *GloriousPcGamingRace and bloody a4tech stock drops dramatically*

[@mustafamc963]

Just got a glorious model o yesterday lol

[@classit8248]

@@mustafamc963 no 👏🏻 one 👏🏻 cares

[@lucy4136]

@@classit8248 i care

[@classit8248]

@@lucy4136 haha funny

[@OsproPlayz]

Finally I can get a a70

[@ZestieZeke]

I think it’s too late to add the no double clicking rule. It would drive away lots of players

[@Zarox8811]

He’s not saying “add a no double click rule,” he’s saying that double clicking mice create a problem for servers to detect cheaters. Some players are false banned because Hypixel (and similar servers) need to figure out how to filter double click and cheaters. Content creators should be required to place disclaimers in their videos if they happen to promote a clicking method that could possibly get a view banned if they try out said method.

[@user-db2uj9vc7s]

Dude if you are good at pvp, it is not a clicking method that is gonna make you a worse player. But people create a myth about this

[@Respectbothgoats]

Then people are actual dumb fu ks cuz ur clicking method does not make u good examples are marcel huzuni

[@Ghostpatient]

Only the chronically online dudes in their 20s

[@nickpispis9285]

Lunar and Minemine often show a message saying that double clicking will get you banned but practically this is not the case. I know people who have been double clicking for quite a long time without getting banned at all. As you said intel servers do not really enforce this rule.

[@bobzeb]

It's not a rule on practice servers, it's just warning players that do double click. If the anticheat detects them and they get banend then you can't blame the ac itself

[@f1re585]

sucks when they have ping advantage and click 16 cps

[@joshuahammer4454]

yeah i always have wondered about that cause i do click 20 cps and have yet to get banned

[@kryptic3593]

I recently got banned on lunar for butterfly clicking 20 cps and my ban appeal was denied

[@nouu8916]

@@kryptic3593 because you were butterfly clicking and nobody likes that in the pvp community

[@pepsi3168]

5:51 that is not hypixel is a copy and someone is manually banning him, if you right-click and you are not looking at a block, entitie or holding an item then you will send 0 packets to the server

[@overclocked.]

Ur spelling sucks and he was looking at a block

[@mc_mzcgt]

Yes, too many people misunderstand. He should put something in his description.

[@w2cky400]

@@overclocked. when he spells only one word wrong :/

[@muhammadkonain4625]

@@overclocked. there’s only one mistake. bruh

[@aimbotxd7992]

i think everyone knows but okay

[@nodeathu]

**puts on hazmat suit** Sorts by newest comments

[@EvyatarIL_]

This is what I think for a year so happy to see someone who understands me. You are an amazing KZbinr, you manage to fix the PvP community that a lot of bad KZbinrs have destroyed with all their junk. Glad to see KZbinr really influencing these issues instead of posting a million mice. This is only a quarter of my mind, I would add more but I can not get down about KZbinrs in KZbinr comments. I just want to say Thanks, and well done.

[@thepuggod8279]

I'm your 10th like 👍😏.

[@Neekz_]

Alt title: Completely roasting Bedlessnoob

[@zugi5474YT]

😅

[@typeofcrayon]

I feel that this video focuses largely on hypixel and other US servers. If you go to any german server for example, drag clicking is an essential thing it that environment.

[@tanjirostepsis1237]

higher the cps the more hits u can get

[@mohammedabedi7218]

@@tanjirostepsis1237 it's false you can combo with 2cps bruh

[@typeofcrayon]

@@tanjirostepsis1237 not quite. Some servers implement a cps cap and mc can only register 20cps. Also you missed my whole comment i think

[@i_likemen5614]

@@mohammedabedi7218 You can only combo with 2 cps if the other person your fighting is an actual bot who probably clicks 4 cps

[@Bob13454]

​@@i_likemen5614 If you get them into a combo you can combolock them with 2 cps. Of course you're not going to get them into a combo with 2 cps, but sometimes I try single clicking to combo and it's really hard but it does work if you're precise enough.

[@biqf2694]

“Soon there will be no double clicking mice” Bloody: uh huh When your comment on intels video gets more likes then his

[@aspenindenial]

Yeah i think that saying that is not the right thing, it's gonna be more likely that there won't be much variety in double clicking mices which makes it still a problem

[@imremu]

MOOM CAN I GET AN OFFICE MOUSE

[@narayanlekhi381]

lol

[@White-qw8xe]

Glorious: uh huh

[@PrototypeLightLight]

kain with its debounce modification: uh huh

[@shayaan0155]

I swear the archon is the new raid shadow legends. All the time they’re sponsoring people left and right

[@mutatedonions5139]

They're both trash

[@svencakes6373]

@@mutatedonions5139 yeah

[@Random-oj2yr]

Their ranks are expensive at so they can sponsor people at mass

[@soisos]

TheArchon is a super p2w server too

[@Random-oj2yr]

@@soisos agree. When I first logged on I saw mass amounts of coins so I asked a mod to slide over some and literally 2 seconds later I see “you have received 2000q from [MOD]”

[@jarrit_os]

I have a friend who is really getting into pvp and bedwars lately. He just got himself a Glorious mouse for the drag clicking but he'll criticize autoclicking at 10 cps. I'm glad you made this video and I hope it makes an impact because I agree, it's ridiculous that unnaturally high cps should be valued so much. There's a reason I don't care to get into anything 1.8 related.

[@aiuswfauisfnpwehuo9oawse]

lunar.gg hates 20cps+ and youll get banned if you double click butterfly so theres still a community just like you. if you get into pvp on 1.8 you could join that server

[@Delbs1]

Thank god, I legitimately thought no one else was concerned about double clicking on our community. Feels good to know someone wants to get a more sustainable community

[@strawberry1113]

Good job on beating Minecraft intel even though it took u 6 hrs,but I was still there the whole stream 😊

[@boi2192]

I think that if all mice would have the option to decrease debounce time it would be the best solution, since for example as a part of the bridge community i think double clicking is an important possibility for a mouse to have (which is why i used a non gaming mouse before finding out about the model o)

[@igncherrymx]

I see this whole "double clicking fenomena" that has been going around lately as a similar thing that many freestyle sports face as they evolve. In my opinion stating that "the usage of double clicking is an unfair advantage after it can only be done with certain mice" is an invalid argument because the same exact thing applies for example to high refresh rate monitors; playing on 240hz does give you significant advantage against a player who uses 60hz. And actually the advantage you get over a lower refresh rate player is much more noticeable than the advantage 20cps player gets against 10cps player in a real world situation. Going back to the "freestyle sports" argument I made: For example RC drifting (drifting radio-controlled scale-model cars) has evolved a lot since I originally joined that community in 2015. At first everyone was just using 4WD touring race cars with hard slick compound tires to make them slide around, RWD rc drifting wasn't really a thing back then. People realized that making the cars rear-wheel-drive makes them handle more like real cars. Plus it makes the whole thing look way cooler which kind of is the main goal of freestyling. At this point some people started using a component called "gyro" basically its a G-force sensor attached to the car and programmed to steer the front wheels to the direction of motion automatically when the rear end is sliding (If you know something about the physics of real life drifting this makes sense). Usage of these "Gyros" made it much easier to maneuver the car around Plus they handled and looked even more like their real sized counterparts. Many people criticized the Gyro back in the day and stated that using one was "cheating" and "unfair advantage against people who don't have one". Nowadays everyone is using a gyro in their drift rc car and its considered as a required component in competitions. I know that Minecraft is not a real freestyle sport or anything but this double clicking situation does have a lot in common with them. Just wanted to share my point of view on this :) Edit: I would see that if double clicking became bannable on every server and people couldn't do it any more the game it self would lose many of its mechanics because clicking fast just is a big part of the game. Also jitterclicking is really unpractical for many people as it can be close to impossible to do consistatly for some due to for example body shape etc.

[@minicube88]

I agree with u to an extent but I don't think that 240 hz is as big of an advantage as 20cps. High cps is an instant advantage whereas 240hz just makes it easier this is the same with pretty much everything else regarding hardware - like mouse shape etc. The only thing that isn't affected is the computer itself. Ur gonna lose if u have a bad computer kinda like how have a bad car shape and engine will make u lose. This is true up until around 60fps, any more than that just makes it easier.

[@goalierask633]

@@minicube88 he meant 240 hz for an example, a lot of people made the example that mechanical keyboards can be pressed faster, the point isn’t that 240 hz monitors have the same effect it’s that you can buy an advantage by buying better hardware or better keyboards

[@minicube88]

@@goalierask633 I know, but it's not an instant advantage like 20cps. While yes it is an advantage, you still need to actually practice rather than 0 practice to get better

[@igncherrymx]

@@minicube88 When you start using a double clicking mouse it still takes some time to figure out how to hit the button correctly to make it register two clicks. It aint just a macro that does it. But yeah, i also get your point that monitors and keyboards don't directly affect the way your character behaves ingame like higher clickspeed does with the kb

[@minicube88]

@@igncherrymx i butterfly clicked from the beginning so i guess i'm just used to it

[@insight827]

If the meta for the producers and designers of gaming mice (especially bearing in mind the fact that Minecraft is THE most popular game) was to have an adjustable debounce time, then this problem would not exist. I get your argument, but I don't see a counter to this. What you were talking about were all side effects of buying a mouse that double clicks, and if what I stated above was implemented this wouldn't be an issue. and i also rely on butterflying 20 for every aspect of the game but that's beside the point :(

[@insight827]

basically im wondering why this video was geared against double clicking (and the banning??? of it) rather than certain types of mice.

[@melenchonlecon]

Stop double clicking pls it’s annoying to get destroyed by someone only because he has a specific mouse

[@insight827]

@@melenchonlecon i have an office mouse by acer which cost 5 dollars

[@derpgodyt6316]

People getting drag clicking and double clicking mice is not a problem in my eyes, like if you want a super light mouse then you may have to sacrifice double clicking or drag clicking, same the other way, so I don’t see why sacrificing light mice or comfortable mice is a bad thing

[@Kynatosh]

Well I still use my very old gaming mouse and it just double clicks, it's not faulty, it's just that it is old and there were no debounce time back then. I can't and won't buy a new mouse if servers ban double clicking tho

[@inforced]

they cant know whether u double click or not, hypixel watchdog thinks drag clicking as an autoclicker and bans, while other servers cleary say double clicking is bannable but the way their anti cheat works detects high cps and I don't think there is a way to detect double clicks. So just click slowly

[@Kynatosh]

@@inforced well butterfly click makes me have 20 cps And you can detect the delay between two hit packets

[@randomusername284]

@@inforced cause watchdog is shitty. Dragclicking is not even nearly as consistent as most autoclickers

[@randomusername284]

You could just use a program to avoid double clicks if it gets banned

[@eVCANN]

Yeah you can use X-Mouse control to raise the debounce time of any mouse, sadly you can't lower it on any mouse either

[@noiceteam6215]

it all starts with the minecraft pvp concept. the fact that clicking fast can be a huge advantage itself is just dumb. it not only makes people buy expensive mice to get an advantage, it makes people with worst conditions have to play with a mouse that sometimes doesn't register clicks. I think, there should be a cps cap, or an "autoclicker" where you hold left click and get, idk, max 10 cps.

[@i_likemen5614]

You are 100% correct. I also feel like reducing should have never been a thing

[@Azriel0110]

"Double clicking is exclusive" me: Has a $15 dollar walmart mouse that double clicks just fine

[@soggyflipflop]

The m601 is a 16 dollar mouse that can drag 35 cps without tape

[@choncrue87]

i had a mice that's 8 dollars and can drag click

[@linusmark2425]

I know like i tap it in a certain way and it works on every mouse ive tried

[@Azriel0110]

@@choncrue87 I have a $30 mouse now that can drag 20 cps

[@soggyflipflop]

@@ethanko9197 it’s not like dragging on other mice, it’s the one I learned to drag on and it was pretty hard

[@blormpus1098]

this is just my opinion but i think double clicking is 100% a cheat, like if you were using a software that gave u 3.1 block reach you would get banned, autoclicking software, you get banned and then you have glorious's software that's basically normalized now and not many people consider glorious's software as a cheat but what do all 3 of these softwares have in common? all 3 of them give you an unfair advantage in minecraft because you wouldnt be clicking 20 cps if you didnt have glorious's software which in my opinion makes it a cheat. idk thats just my opinion tho

[@lawson2398]

As a less competent butterfly clicker, averaging 15-18 CPS, unlike the famous 20cps players, here is my opinion- I thank you for not saying “doubleclicking is basically autoclicking” and “drag clicking is basically autoclicking,” because using your own skill to click fast is different than using a computer program. Second, i personally disagree with your idea that double clicking mouses are uncomfortable, but it’s all personal opinion. I have mained Roccat Kone Pure Ultra for the past year, and it fits my hand very well and is comfortable to play with. Also, it’s a lot harder to drag on left click than right click. In the past, i have dragged 50+ cps on left clicks in bursts on hypixel without getting watchdog around my head or getting banned. Also, the double clicking mouses aren’t that expensive, you can get one for cheaper than a minecraft account- saying that some people can’t afford or won’t afford one is innaccurate and completely wrong- if someone wants to cry about not being able to click more than 10cps, it’s their fault they don’t spend a few dollars on a gaming mouse that clicks well. Finally, I can jitter click 14cps but choose to butterfly even though the KB difference isn’t that big because it’s a lot easier to aim with.

[@poppinkringles]

Roccat mice don't count as they are the exception to the rule.

[@Hacker1o1]

@@poppinkringles"Your argument is invalid because its an exception!"

[@poppinkringles]

@@Hacker1o1 most drag clicking mice are bad. roccat are the only drag clicking mice that are well built and comfortable

[@ttv.x34nng80]

To improve in Minecraft pvp I think cps is really important so that’s why people buy double clicking mouses to get a advantage over other players, this is definitely a bad thing but to get better at the game or having a competitive edge this is really the only way

[@joshywashy3463]

While CPS does offer a huge advantage, many people single click and still get extremely good just by practicing movement and block hitting and strafing. Higher CPS through double click essentially offers a pretty quick advantage by buying a mouse that some people might not have access too.

[@auccann]

cps is not important to improve in pvp

[@randomusername284]

That last one is so wrong

[@auccann]

@@TirianSoverign wdym with skill on a mechanical level ?

[@アトー-e5k]

Dude you can rail butterfly clickers if you have good enough movement and strafing. There are a lot of other important factors that go into who wins pvp. Go watch Marcel and watch his movement and his taps.

[@zviwolf8528]

most people wont recognize this but i really admire intel for his speech. most creators stutter, "umm", get lost easily, even sometimes when reading a script. I admire how you sound assertive and speak clearly.

[@LandonQizilbash]

He could just be editing it lol. That’s what I do. But I do agree he has very skilled at talking or scripting

[@ishaandave4324]

I would like to start this comment by raising that your video here does not look at both sides of the story, the thing is, that mice are always changing, some are good for jitter clicking, some are good for drag while some are good for double clicking. The thing is that all of these click styles require skills, I myself can 10cps drag click, 12cps jitter and 15cps butterfly click, all these numbers you see here are due to my own practice or skill and hence all of these clicking methods should be given value and appreciation. It took me months to get good at double clicking, jitter clicking and drag clicking, its not like I bought my mouse and started clicking 15 cps, when I started out I could barely do 9, then it slowly increased to where I am today. One might counter this point by saying that there are a low amount of double clicking mice and all of them are incredibly old and based upon faulty technology. Though in my opinion if one wanted to double click, there are many options, from roccat, to bloody, to glorious, coolermaster and there are many more mice out there. Additionally, you can get a double clicking mouse of pretty much any shape, you could get a coolermaster mm710/mm711 for an ambidextrous claw style or maybe a model d for a more ergonomic shape. Either way, you can get a double clicking mouse of any shape or type, its just about how much research you do, which has not really been done in this video. Additionally, I would like to point out another flaw in your theory, you did make a big mess while saying that double clickers abuse faulty hardware or the specifications of a mouser (eg switches). Though the same could be said for jitter clicking, I have quite a few mice, starting with my razer deathadder, its absolutely amazing for jitter clicking while on the other hand, my Logitech prodigy is not as great, either way, for a good jitter click mouse you do need a certain shape or travel distance for a good jitter click mouse. Yet again, it can be said that jitter clicking also depends on a mouse in a big way. I feel that overall, double clicking, jitter clicking, drag clicking and normal clicking have their own advantages and disadvantages, most popular clicking methods sacrifice needed accuracy for cps while normal clicking boasts good accuracy though lower cps. I myself have played a lot of potpvp and classic duels and I have friends who are just as experienced as me, use normal clicking and beat me, while I myself have years of double/jitter click experience. Either way, one can easily beat a double/jitter clicker with normal clicking and it can be the same the other way around. Overall, it is a stereotype in a sense about double clicking being unfair, just because it uses debounce times. This video also used terms such as "faulty hardware" or maybe "not many double clicking option" and did single out double clicking especially into a spotlight and did not look at the big picture. You yourself are a jitter clicker and maybe it would be appreciated if you invited a double clicker to share his or her opinion on the subject. Maybe invite Cheetah again, he uses all forms of clicking and is very experienced in all of them. (drag, jitter, double and normal clicking). The way you mentioned that it should be banned is a really bad thing to say. Like instead of BANNING a player for double clicking, one could just implement a server side cap or double click prevention like Hypixel, rather than just using banning as an excuse to get people to buy 30 dollar unbans or new Minecraft accounts on servers like lunar etc. Just really badly phrased, I'm kind of disappointed in you right here. I myself have no issues with this whole thing, I broke my double clicking mouse and have hence switched to jitter clicking, I personally prefer it due to the additional stability along with high cps, though I feel a sense of sympathy for double clickers who are getting banned for a reason so stupid and just feel that there has been a bad negative stigma created around double clicking. One of my friends was banned for double clicking, and was forced to spend 30 dollars for an unban on the lunar server, which is just kind of extreme, though he did not want to loose his progress and was forced to make the purchase. Overall, banning double clicking will cause people to loose money they cannot afford to spend again. Another big thing to think about is how you made a video which clearly highlighted double clicking as bad, unfair or immoral to use, while saying for a few shot moments that "this is just my opinion". When you make a KZbin video, its bound to create influence for the ideas showcased within. Hence maybe you could have weighed out pros and cons or considered some of the points I mentioned above. Overall, by posting this video, you may have created a huge negative opinion towards double clicking, which is not good for people who spent large sums of money on mice which may double click, same thing for a jitter clicker if he or she was concerned here. I would like to mention here that I love your videos, they are always logical, well organized, and a pleasure to watch, I just hope that maybe you are able to talk about this with someone like Cheetah who may have more knowledge about said clicking methods. Overall, to summarize, each clicking method is essentially a skill, the skills themselves are different and entirely unique to each other though the similarity between all of them is that they are skills you can sharpen, or make stronger. Hence all of them should be considered allowable or ok to use. If you do disagree or agree with what I have stated here, this is my discord : 1shaan#1918 Though if you feel that this should get more attention, you could share it with a friend or maybe give this a few likes so that it stays visible to anyone who clicks on this video, maybe even intel edits will see this and reconsider his opinions.

[@momo250]

a lot of people butterfly 20 cps out of the box with the model o, it's not that hard for most people

[@breadstick3173]

That's deep.

[@nouu8916]

But jitter clicking isnt faulty mice. Its mice with good switches. Double clicking literally is not meant to happen making it faulty. Whearas jitter is based on vibrating your arm. The less pre travel the mouse has the better for jitter, that isnt faulty.

[@nouu8916]

Stop capping by saying butterfly is hard to do. If it was more people would jitter. I got a model o and could easily butterfly 16-24 out of the box

[@Ishan.khanna]

Lol k Cry about it

[@MagicFGH]

ok so i agree with how your mouse is literally controlling how good you are at pvp but i think companies should have double click mice than can like switch off double click and have a denounce timer like the bloody A series and glorious series! GREAT VIDEO BY THE WAY ❤️

[@Shangoo]

Most people who happen to double click are the same people willing to use vpns to spread out their packets. I am not saying this with an intent to judge or hate on a specific group of people I am just saying things from my personal experience. Also, it’s illogical that you should gain an advantage over someone for buying a specific piece of plastic and tapping on it a certain way.

[@victoria-ob7mt]

yes, but isn't ping an advantage? It's hard to do well with high ping if you click slower, this is because hit reg and delayed kb exists, I think clicking slower is a lot easier for low ping players unlike high ping players are more limited in this area which I think is unfair to judge when based down to cps, but also uncontrollable.

[@haxanshah7231]

same man i can get 15 cps on butterfly but still gey destroye coz of high ping

[@lwavy1416]

Just play on servers in ue country

[@alexperry06]

Bro high ping is an advantage, it’s much harder to fight high ping players then low ping due to there hits 2 seconds after I hit them

[@dcchaos6409]

@@alexperry06 yeah but to them there’d also a 2 second delay so your argument is invalid. I’ve fought high ping players when I’ve had low ping, and fought low ping players when I’ve had high ping, and having low ping is definitely 100% better

[@dcchaos6409]

@@haxanshah7231 have you thought maybe it’d because you just gotta improve your skill lol. Cps isn’t everything in pvp

[@ItzOwo]

If this unfair, Owning a good PC could be classified as unfair as you will have more FPS than a person playing on a 2010 laptop getting 30. Owning a good Wi-Fi connection could also be unfair as you would have a low ping advantage. So many people will have an advantage over others, no matter what and you can't really control that. I see people complain about double clicking all the time but have never seen someone complain that owning a better PC gives an advantage. Other people can't just buy a whole new PC or router, but you can buy a mouse that double clicks for way cheaper. I have seen some Mice than can double click at the price of $3. So to be completely honest, others will have an advantage no matter what and you can't really do anything about it.

[@bobzeb]

There's a huge difference between having something good over abusing something, argument is flawed.

[@80nt-gaming16]

Well, that is true.

[@ItzOwo]

@@bobzeb I wouldn't call it abusing. Even the Abedless was designed for double clicking and thats allowed.

[@MJC011]

@@bobzeb true. I geuss just don't abuse your mouse. I mean you can't really choose how good your wifi is and how good your PC unless you save money and get the wifi and PC what you want.

[@IntelEdits]

There’s a massive difference between the two. Computer manufacturers aren’t actively trying to reduce your FPS like how gaming mouse companies are actively making their mice not double click. It’s BECAUSE so many gaming mice are trying to remove the ability to double click that makes double clicking mice unfair IMO.

[@discountdhanesh662]

I think it might be a good thing for people to buy double clicking mice because if it becomes more popular more companies will follow and make more comfortable double clicking mice or double clicking mice that have better clicks.

[@worsegameroblox]

A normal mouse is not supposed to double click. Imagine doing something outside of Minecraft and whenever you try to click something your mouse is consistently double clicking. It would be really annoying and only useful for Minecraft. How is it fair that when you click once, it registers as 2 clicks because of a bug, giving you an advantage?

[@lupio.o]

I bought a mouse for the intention of jitter clicking but later I found out it can also double click

[@WhereisAfterwrld]

I absolutely agree with these points, especially as a player who can’t drag click. Though this isn’t the reason I agree with your argument. Due to this issue, and not wanting to buy a more expensive mouse solely to double click or drag click, I also find it an unfair advantage to those players who have the ability to click that way while others can’t. Because of this disadvantage, I’ve had to practice to increase my jitter click cps, though a 12cps doesn’t stand too much of a chance compared to drag or double clickers.

[@babybee3925]

I cant drag click well but I don’t see any issue with that “advantage” when you drag click when you either left or right click to bridge or reduce your kb I agree tho with that there’s not a lot double clicking mice and are expensive and maybe in the future they will do more double clicking mouse or completely stop doing double clicking mouse but me who butterfly clicks I don’t see that much of an advantage tbh I see that sometimes I take less kb but the kb difference so little that I can’t see my player moving a bit backwards more than me when we trade hits and for me it’s so hard to jitter click as well as you don’t want to buy double clicking mouse Wich can be really expensive and you won’t be able to butterfly click on the first time 20 cps so as well as you don’t have the ability to drag or double click I don’t have the ability to jitter click wich personally for me seems way better than butterfly and prefer that more and sometimes on my model o I forget to turn on to lower debounce time and when I was playing with it only after realising I was playing as well as I did without the debounce time to 4 and like to 10 I would’ve got 10-12 cps and was playing as good with butterfly so I like jitter click with butterfly and got the same cps and didn’t see any differences in the game

[@Lokkix1]

logitech mice are around 80dollars and u can get model o or kain 100 that can drag click for 50dollar

[@nouu8916]

@Milo Dog yeah but jitter clicking isnt using something faulty to your advantage. Butterfly clicking is

[@howto-camden8659]

Any method is fine it’s just about how well you play with every different technique

[@stlzo4662]

i mean yes but not everyone is TECHNICALLY able to do it

[@brobama853]

I butterfly click about 12 to 24 cps and still get destroyed so yeah

[@stlzo4662]

@@brobama853 as you might know its not just about cps :)

[@babajimobile48]

I can play decently with 4-5 cps xd

[@gadaye7770]

@Gurkirth Johal yeah and probably plays on 1.17

[@grassvfx]

Hi intel, I understand your points and they are all very important to be thinking about for the future of the community. I do want to comment on a few points where a perspective of a dragclick/dub click player may add to this discussion. Firstly, I do agree that it is quite bad that players have to spend ~$USD50 to buy mice that are primarily used for double clicking. There are cheaper alternatives (reddragon mice) but they have mad sensors/build quality. I still dont believe that it is much of a hard barrier to join the community as there are some games that require a high spec computer to run. I'm not saying that having to buy a mouse for cps is not contributing to gatekeeping in the community, but this community wouldn't be one without these mice. You made a point how dragclickers/double clickers would have to buy older mice without new innovations, but companies such as glorious are making mice for drag clicking that are new such as the wireless model o. I also believe that more companies will start to make more mice for double clicking/drag clicking as they realise the demand for these mice. You mentioned you disliked using the low-debounce mice you own which I respect, but many of these mice are enjoyed by others. Some mice such as the bloody mice may be weighty, but this is good for drag clicking as it reduces the amount of mouse jitter while dragging. Also, the high sides of some mice which may feel uncomfortable in a normal grip can be comfortable while claw gripping for long drags. I agree that youtubers should tell their viewers not to left drag click while playing on servers such as hypixel and lunar, but I do not agree that most people dont know about getting banned for high cps. Many servers have warnings about low denounce, and many people purposely drag on servers such as lunar to get banned (totally not me not at all) I really appreciate your view and I hope that our separate communities can work together to find a solution for these issues. Sorry for the essay byw

[@nqvnpvp]

"u can only drag click on mice that can double click" as this is partly true, u can't drag click on all double clicking mice, for exple the roccat burst pro which I personal own can double click yet cant drag click

[@nivolf8958]

this is even completely false, my old mouse can drag click just fine (not very long because of the surface but still) and could not double click at all

[@shashankmuralidharan8710]

@@nivolf8958 you probably can’t double click yet. Trust me I used to think my mouse could drag but couldn’t double but at didn’t know how to double

[@nivolf8958]

@@shashankmuralidharan8710 maybe, but that still means that a mouse Can drag click and not double click

[@nivolf8958]

@@shashankmuralidharan8710 and i Know how to double click thanks -_-

[@shashankmuralidharan8710]

@@nivolf8958 ok I was just wondering that because of my personal experience

[@SpiderGuyIsGoodAtMinecraft]

Some very good points however any mouse can double click, it’s the bouncing of the mouse button however some of these mice cancel out these double clicks

[@yoshawtyismyproperty]

yeah thats what he meant by most mice can't double click because they dont register

[@thevrb5298]

No razer has made optical swithes which make it impossible to double click

[@SpiderGuyIsGoodAtMinecraft]

@@thevrb5298 the mouse button still bobs up and down twice, even if the switch doesn't thats what I was trying to say

[@KanteToGlory]

I dissagree because we dont want to get carpal tunnel for jitter clicking

[@nouu8916]

You dont get shit from jitter clicking

[@dcchaos6409]

Intel, I feel like you are very much overselling how easy double clicking is. It isn’t simply normally clicking a mouse and boom suddenly it clicks twice. Sure doing it isolated of anything else is easy, but getting consistent double clicks whilst maintaining a decent cps and aiming is difficult and requires practice. Not to mention, in my experience, butterfly clicking is a lot more tiring then other clicking methods like jitter and normal. Overall I see it as a fair trade off. Also, double clicking is not a result of faulty software, if you record double clicking in slow motion, you can see the clicks are very clearly physical. And if the mouse has no software to prevent it to begin with, or had toggleable software, then you can’t consider the software faulty.

[@valk4657]

butterfly is not more tiring than jitter lol

[@cyurs748]

Hi fellow bedwars fourmer

[@cyurs748]

Agreed, it’s harder to double click then must people think

[@dcchaos6409]

@@valk4657 in my experience it is, and I main butterfly clicking. Jitter uses your forearm’s muscle (I’m dumb I forgot the name of it) which is used a lot, and it’d also larger than your fingers’ muscles which is what butterfly click utilises. And also you don’t use your fingers’ muscled nearly as much as your forearm’s

[@dcchaos6409]

@@cyurs748 hello qt

[@sunakasukii9826]

In reality double clicking is just clicking in a smart way, you click with force to cause it to physically bounce twice, having low debounce time shouldn’t be considered an advantage, just something that should be implemented in more mice

[@eirsyy5106]

That’s just clicking in a no legit way because not all the mouse have double clicks, butterfly clicking when u pvp that’s gay

[@Boyten88]

yes physical clicks

[@eirsyy5106]

@@Boyten88 lol its impossible to do 20cps butterfly clicking without double clicks

[@Boyten88]

@@eirsyy5106 ik that

[@Boyten88]

@@eirsyy5106 also do u have a disc

[@HazFrostYT]

I can't agree more with the fact that drag clicking is limited to specific mice with terrible specifications, and it's kind of unfair for people with better mice to not even be able to start using their skills to drag click in the first place, this video needs a bit more attention on a lot of servers.

[@bencarter8692]

I am going to tell you that people have invested hundreds of dollars into double clicking mice and if they ban double clicking then that would lose me over $200

[@HazFrostYT]

@@bencarter8692 it would suck to be you, but let's be real, we're talking about the community, not about a smaller portion of it.

[@woh_how]

Ok, so this is a point that i don't see anyone bring up. 20cps is really not necessary, the only gamemode that needs that that high butterfly is bridge(the gamemode). And even jitterclicking works in bridge, SpeedToggled, one of the top bridge players jitters. Also people like cetahh(idk how the hell to spell it) can click like 15 consistently with 10 denounce time. Personally I can get 14 consistently but that is still more than jitterclicking(for most people). Another point is that you don't say people need to have the same specs, you pay more you get a better experience, higher refresh rate monitors increase you're tracking, mouse pads get better glide, keyboard get a better experience, mice that double click can grant a higher cps if, and only if you know how to get that high of a cps, I can't butterfly 20 consistently, and I have the model o for about 8 months and I get 18. The problem that you said that you said that the model o is inedial for YOU doesn't mean that nobody likes the shape, I love it. The facts that logitech and razer are moving on is worrysome but glorius and rocat and bloody are reconsidering that the pvp community is huge. Razer is probably done with boubleclicking but Logitech may not. In conclusion even If you are correct and all mouse companies will move on from double clicking then the old mice will be there, like old speedrun games need specific hardwere to be played at the top level.

[@fabmc8816]

I can tell you have never played ranked pvp

[@woh_how]

@@fabmc8816 just cuz you play pot that dosen't mean you are better then anyone. I get on the daily leaderboard in bridge about every 2 weeks, i also play in bridge scrims daily and win most of my games

[@fabmc8816]

@@woh_how I am good at bridge too, also Hypixel bridge is just grinding where 90% of players have no chance again a decent player

[@woh_how]

@@fabmc8816 thrn you know then even doubleclick-less(?) butterfly is viable and jitterclicking also, if hypixel introduced a denounce delay then most people can still butterfly just not 20 cps

[@luvvhaley]

I agree with you. I think that youtubers who promote drag/double clicker without warning people don’t deserve youtube rank. Just like how youtubers who promote things such as xray texture packs.

[@yayuuuhhhH]

As someone who drag clicks and butterfly clicks (although not well) I think that a lot of people don't understand that you can't just buy a double clicking mouse and instantly get 500 cps, like drag clicking and butterfly clicking is a skill. Also I don't think drag clicking on hypixel is likely to get you banned as I do that a lot and i haven't been banned or kicked or anything. Most servers that do ban drag clicking have a warning that it can get you banned like lunar or minemen club (which i got myself banned from lol). So I think if someone gets false banned for drag clicking or butterfly clicking on there they're just dumb or they see the warning and ignore it (like me). Also for the problem that many mice dont double click I don't think that's really a big problem like there are plenty of mice that do it, although it does limit your options a bit. I think that mice companies should have an adjustable debounce time thing like with the model o. There are plenty of cheap mice that can double click (though they probably aren't ideal for gaming, but like they work). Also I just want to be able to play the game without having to jitter click cuz it hurts my hand and I don't want to have to resort to normal clicking. But even though i disagree it was still a very well made video :)

[@medkatyt]

Butterfly clicking is a skill. Double clicking isn’t 🙃

[@casuallysweating7487]

I can butterfly 20 and drag 40 and I can confirm that double clicking is easy.

[@yayuuuhhhH]

@@casuallysweating7487 ok maybe i just suck at butterfly clicking cuz i can only get like 16 cps

[@l3xend4ry56]

I think that it would be great to add a debounce time changer to every mouse with mechanical switches. But The Problem about that goes with The razer mice because their optical switches are built in a way that doesn't allow a debounce time changer

[@Frongaa]

Personally I use the gpro superlight and jitter click, so I don’t use double clicking in my style of gameplay, but I don’t feel that people are wrong for using double clicking or feel it needs to be removed, it’s just different and I don’t really mind thay

[@yalex72]

Exactly!! It's true

[@IZAQ_]

I hate drag clickers a lot for the reasons: 1: They can get over 30 cps just from dragging with their finger on a mouse. 2: If you ever knock someone out in for example bedwars, they will place blocks so fast that they will survived by landing on the blocks they placed. 3: (Bed wars again) They will most likley rush you, now I personally hate rushers anyway but that's a subject for another time, and they are there probably before I have even started defending the bed.

[@bluobo]

I personally like double clicking but I know I ordered the model O from glorious coming in on Sunday I think but my whole life I’ve had an office mouse so I really just want an upgrade and all the mouse that I see are just a cheap company that has a mouse for like 20$ bucks that can’t even jitter because when I got it I jittered and the click button BROKE so I just want to get a mouse from a company I can trust that isn’t 100$-150$ (note this is my opinion that doesn’t mean I don’t support people who don’t double/drag click) also nice video keep going!

[@PhinnyBin]

CONTROVERSIAL OPINION: Double clicking through modifying debounce on bloody, glorious, and roccat products should (With MC server logic) should be considered cheating. A macro is also a modification through your mouse. So if Hypixel allows double licking to get more cps, it’s the same as using a macro. Both are software modifications not all mice have. Anyway I love my model o wireless but this opinion still stands

[@beanboiz3381]

Well I'm not a Java user, but a few severs on Bedrock like Cubecraft consider modifying denounce times to be cheating.

[@orangegherkin3420]

Not really, double clicking qnd drag clicking require A LOT more skill and dedication than simply loading up your macro.

[@blormpus1098]

7:02 i totally agree, I was watching tutorials on how to double click / butterfly click and at the time i had no idea that clicking 20 would get me banned, before i was banned i showed my brother how to double click, we've been banned about 7 times now from both minemen and lunar after the 3rd time we got banned i decided to buy a superlight and stop double clicking but my brother still kept doing it and kept getting banned and because we have the same ip address whenever he gets banned i get ip banned

[@Hacker1o1]

There are clear rules! That is your fault.

[@imcrowned2929]

Eventually, double clicking (at least on left click) should be bannable; the amount of cps that you get is a sometimes stupid advantage that can sometimes get people banned. As you said, right click double clicking/drag clicking is not as commonly used competitively, so I think that that's fine. At the very least, it should be something that shouldn't really happen. As you said, again, it was originally a FAULT in older mice; there's no reason that it should be a feature. Let me know your opinions!

[@Sl0wmoon_OW]

I think beyond that, that the paywall it adds to communities is just unnecessary.

[@rixlcs3644]

My opinion is that it is a skill to perfect how to do these methods so saying it is bannable is just dumb

[@imcrowned2929]

@@rixlcs3644 listen- I can butterfly click 26 cps with my model o, but I got the mouse because it was light, and, yes, for the double clicking feature. You can argue that it is a skill which, sure, it is not something that everybody can do. However, the reason for them not being able to do it is because of the paywall of having to buy a specific mouse. The absurd amount of clicks is extremely unfair, and I do not butterfly click at all anymore, unless if I'm playing sumo once in a blue moon

[@Hacker1o1]

@@Sl0wmoon_OW Hold on, there are many cheap double clicking mice just as well as there are many extremely expensive non-double click mice.

[@deflected7873]

My opinion: butterfly clicking and drag clicking are skills, heck there are some softwares out there that can change debounce times on mice that don't normally have a togglable debounce time, drag clicking isn't that much of a problem because very very few players can actually do the clicking method and those that can usually use it for things like fancy bridging styles. butterfly clicking on the other hand is a skill, being able to butterfly high cps is a skill, it took me 4 months to learn how to properly butterfly 20 cps and there are still companies making double clicking mice (Bloody and Glorious are the most popular ones) so double clicking (and drag clicking) mice will still exist and be around, they (probably) won't be gone for a while. I have heard some people argue that butterfly clicking isn't a skill with the model o, now imma just tell you rn (as a model o user) that's fucking bullshit, butterfly clicking took me what felt like forever to learn and I still haven't learned drag clicking yet (nor do I really care abt dragging) @Intel Edits, if you manage to see this comment and you would like to talk more on the subject my Discord is Deflected#2055

[@medkatyt]

Oh no the second i butterfly clicked for the first time on a model o I got 20 cps. Double clicking definitely is not a skill. Butterfly clicking is a skill, I learned it months before I got my model o. Double clicking isn’t.

[@deflected7873]

@@medkatyt I ment to say that, sorry for the miscommunication Edit: I edited the comment for clarification ty for lmk bout my spelling errors

[@Kynatosh]

Me who has a 5$ DELL mouse stolen from school that drags 40 cps:

[@abcike]

I disagree, because people can buy better monitors/pcs to get an unfair advantage. If everyone thinks that that was to much of an advantage, they would ban it, but it still Is allowed.

[@nouu8916]

What?? People who buy moniters and pcs dont buy them because they are faulty. They buy them because they are better in terms of specs, just like mice polling rate

[@GalaxyVFX]

crazy cuz monitors/pc are different yess they give unfair advantages but cmon u can go anywhere and find a 144hz or 240hz monitor and honestly i can easily beat someone with better fps and graphics but a kid who is fricking drag click on me i cant do jack man get throw off the map really sad man its hard to find a mouse that can drag click and not alot of them are being made anymore. if mice are made to drag click that would be nice but u only got one which is the bloody abedless and ngl its kinda crap

[@aakashghantasala2438]

bruh the advantage is just a little compared to good gaming gear and better gaming gear gives u consistency u dont become a god if u have a good gaming chair smh

[@abcike]

@@olivers_railvideos some mice, like the model o have capitalized on the fact that some people want double clicking. It does not make the mouse worse. it depends what you want from the mouse.

[@abcike]

@@GalaxyVFX The model O is cheaper than a lot of mice on the market. plus, the double clicking is a feature, and is made on purpose

[@Koiddd]

This dude just made me change my debounce time

[@cracklygamrez8563]

The one point I want to address is that he says that the servers should introduce a cps cap. This won’t be great (in my opinion). There might be a slight chance that they would become like hypixel where KZbin rank bypasses the anti cheat. And many people would use a future good mouse even if it doesn’t double click because most ppl play other games as well

[@SUBYT]

I disagree cuz some people can’t jitter click also jitter clicking is very bad for your hands and can give you carpel tunnel whereas butterflying is much less stress on the fingers; for example I can jitter 10-12 cps but after 20 seconds my fingers just hurt a lot whereas I can butterfly for hours.

[@nouu8916]

You dont get carpel tunnel😹 look at stimpy, hes been in the pvp community for 6+ years and jitter clicks

[@nouu8916]

Everyone can jitter, but it takes skill unlike butterfly clicking

[@RV2O]

Jitter clicking has negative long-term effects on your wrist… So in a theoretical world where double clicking is disallowed/discouraged, the only ways to obtain a knockback advantage is jitter clicking, which has negative effects that some people don’t want… I personally can jitter for some time, but it really hurts my wrist afterwards and I don’t think it would be a good idea to main. Also lunar.gg and minemen.club both discourage double-clicking, so a part of my statement is actually true… I believe if you want to play in a community where double clicking is disallowed, play on minemen or lunar, but Hypixel changing their rules against double-clicking would be too controversial. Also I drag clicked 70+ cps on Hypixel and watchdog didn’t even bother me…

[@nouu8916]

Jitter has nothing to do with your wrist but your arm and forearm. Playing video games can cause long term affects on your wrist so it doesnt make a difference. Unless you dont know how to jitter properly or play too high of a sens you use your wrist to move, you shouldnt hurt.

[@MeAmSmart]

yeah I miss the days before these scummy butterfly clickers came along, cps used to be skill based, now it’s mouse based, it’s even similar to hack clients except you pay for a mouse to give you an unfair advantage instead of a client and it doesn’t require any skill

[@nouu8916]

@Kiri bro butterfly takes no skill, out of the box i could 16-20 and aim fine with it. My aim was a bit slower but tracking was just as good as my jitter

[@nouu8916]

@Kiri i never said it was scummy, its just stupidly easier to do compared to jitter and has a huge advantage

[@nouu8916]

@Kiri thats because less people butterfly click that are big in pot or speed pvp

[@eligable]

I feel like its really unfair to german servers and overall mlg servers. The entire concept of getting mice that can and cant double click is completely the persons choice.then again some mouse companies cant afford to get newer switches. So uhh yeah there will probably going to be dc mouse and ndc mice.thats my opinion on it.

[@lamptowel]

Insane advantage for other servers though. It's not fair and should be bannable in any way possible

[@eligable]

@@lamptowel fair point. But that makes butterfly clicking innefective and that basically just implies your better off normal clicking 10 cps, and keep in mind companies like reddragon and others can't afford to disable dcing.

[@lamptowel]

​@@eligable not really no stopping double clicking is way easier than you think nowadays and yes the point is to make butterfly clicking ineffective? its scummy and cheap lol its using a defect in mice, that only specific companies continue making because of the niche they found it's not fair to people that dont like using those mice, (most of which are lower quality)

[@ooshy7045]

Have no fear BLOODY IS HERE

[@rixlcs3644]

@@lamptowel you are just mad that people have found a way to beat you and you are coming up with excuses

[@oshotz]

imo, double clicking/drag clicking is still a skill. i’ve had the model o wireless for probably over a month now and still can’t double click/drag click on it (16 cps is my highest, and that was for a brief second)

[@saaiem]

^ this. I've had the glorious model d for a while now but on average while butterflying I get about 10-13 cps, if you want to get 20 cps like others it'll take practice

[@thefeudallord3149]

Yea only just now I can get 18-20 cps on my bloody a60 btw it took me 3 months to learn.

[@nouu8916]

Fingers be slow as fuck or my fingers are built different. I could butterfly 16-22 straight out the box. I also reached 68 cps while bolt clicking

[@saaiem]

@@nouu8916 what mouse

[@nouu8916]

@@saaiem model o

[@blosetterna]

2:16 did u inhale balloon gas

[@amogusl0l]

Some countries dont sell these double clicking mouse ever in any store like my country and it's just so bad that your friends from other countries can save for a long time and actually buy the double clicking mouse but in these countries even if you save you are not gonna be able to get it like your friends

[@somaale1418]

The bloody A bedless is a literal brick Bedless noob: *"so u have chosen death"*

[@EvilEmperium]

I can see your point and I agree with it, something else to consider is that double clicking isn't an easy to do, nor is drag clicking. It takes legitimate skill to do either of these clicking methods, and there are also softwares that can lower a mouse debounce time. Good video Intel!

[@maxzink8058]

Mouse isn't equal skill, there are people that use the model o to butterfly and get 20 cps and up, while I get 10 cps with butterfly on lowest debounce time

[@galamphin]

Great video as always! Just wanted to mention that the clip at 5:51 isn't actually the real hypixel it's a recreation featured in lots of the videos on that youtuber's channel

[@IntelEdits]

my bad! i didn’t realize that... i’m still pretty sure that hypixel does ban you pretty quickly for left click drag clicking though, so i think my point still stands.

[@ovifa9259]

@@IntelEdits :D

[@Tric7]

@@IntelEdits I have drag clicked 40+ cps on hypixel a few times and have long dragged very constant high cps and haven't had watchdog circle me or get banned. I do stand with your point that some people do get banned

[@galamphin]

@@IntelEdits don't worry about it! Was still an great video with many great points and yes it does ban for left drag clicking

[@aakashghantasala2438]

@@IntelEdits dood only if this vid come out a week ago i wouldve cancelled my roccat mouse order its 5 yr old has 1.5 cm liftoff :(

[@aslkjdasdf961]

I agree with double clicking, my mouse used to double click basically every time by accident. It was great for pvp, but when I tried to place down obby, it double clicked and i placed obby in the wrong place. Also when block-hitting, sometimes I would block twice and it would ruin my timing even though I wasn't that good at it in the first place but I was good enough.

[@willydoesminecraft]

I like your idea of capping cps at like 10-15. That would even the playing field well

[@droningandgoing9286]

Cap it at 20 as there are many jitter clickers that can get 15+ cps

[@cpawXD]

Before this video starts, I'd like to say thank you to my sponsor: *Jitter clicking*, Jitter clicking is SUPER OP for getting Carpal Tunnel and Hurting your arm!

[@rixlcs3644]

Yessir tell me about it

[@joeynothing9281]

Doing anything repetitive including butterfly clicking or even normal clicking for a long time will get you carpal tunnel just as fast

[@profected]

5:51 when you realize they did it on a completely different server for entertainment purposes (of course the youtuber wouldn't want to risk getting banned or IP banned)

[@oceanolol]

thank goodness I wasn’t the only one who noticed. it’s honestly kind of annoying because this “entertainment purpose” tricks a lot of people in the thinking that it’s real and much misinformation is spread and hate is given

[@oceanolol]

@Rayaan Syed yeah i know but in the clip he’s literally right clicking which made a lot of people think right click was bannable

[@profected]

@Rayaan Syed nah, you don't get insta banned though, you only get banned if you do it a lot (because watchdog is dog shit)

[@tandivyansh1233]

Ngl, I’ve been learning single click (can’t drag cause mouse) gb for a couple months now, and I can get about 16 blocks consistently with shifts every 8 blocks. I can get 30 blocks occasionally, so drag clicking does make it a lot easier than single. However… a lot of great bridgers such as bedless, and cake can single click bridge as well.

[@kuuvene8659]

Cake can single click gb

[@tandivyansh1233]

@@kuuvene8659 ikr, what a god

[@tandivyansh1233]

@@kuuvene8659 omg I just saw, that was a typo, I didn’t mean cant

[@kuuvene8659]

@@tandivyansh1233 bedless can't single click gb

[@tandivyansh1233]

@@kuuvene8659 yeah he can,

[@zoinkz5098]

this is a reason why I am switching from the model O- to the razer viper mini, your review made the mouse sound so great, i cant wait to pot pvp with it!

[@mo9813]

I would just keep the model o lol

[@tallha4805]

@@mo9813 he sais model o- but still i wouldnt buy razer viper mini if i already have a gaming mouse

[@quabanos]

Adjustable. Debounce. Time. Everywhere. This is all I have to say lmao

[@bencarter8692]

I feel like servers shouldn't ban double clicking or butterfly clicking because some people have invested hundreds of dollars into mice to double click, like me I have invested higher than $200 on mice and if they capped cps at say 10 I might as well just be normal clicking on a office mouse.

[@valk4657]

you spent over 200 dollars on a mice because you wanted a advantage though lol

[@anuragmitra9167]

@@valk4657 that's the whole point of gaming micr

[@steinberg070]

1 thing I never understand is y certain mouses double click like I double click on a classic office mouse (getting 15-18 cps and I’m not good at butterfly)

[@thatonebrokenpixel4889]

That is on purpose. As he said, double clicking is a fault, and companies are actively trying to fix it. If you get a modern Logitech or Razer mouse, they have very good software ant hardware that prevents double clicks. When your old office mouse was being made, double clicking was probably the least of its concerns. Some companies like Bloody are purposely trying to make double click mice.

[@Tixel]

in the clip 5:51 thats not actually hypixel, its a copy of it, as u can see from the info or leader board, those two look nothing like the ones on hypixel, hypixel is also proven to only ban players with high amounts of cps (like 50+) on the left click button and only whilst clicking on an entity for example a player or an npc, you will get banned, but as the clip shows when u get 50+ cps on ur right click button, hypixel wont detect that. not hating or disagreeing with anything u said just wanted to make things clear and ur points r very valid

[@LegendaryK12]

Yes I know Grigoo

[@clubWickets]

Totally agree dude. Set a cps cap on servers. Only allow 30cls for bridging and no more. Very good video Intel.

[@KingOtterTheBeautifulOtter]

I love your PvP style block hitting is so satisfying

[@Acedius]

since Hypixel is down, i been binging your vids.

[@levblob_5534]

Hello Intel! what mouse is good for pvp? :]

[@ilovecarti1629]

Honestly just any mouse that isn’t garbage

[@frostapples3172]

any mouse with a good sensor and which registers clicks well just just google it

[@gadaye7770]

Razer viper mini or roccat kain 100 aimo, both are 30 dollars

[@HazeRed]

I think i have been butterfly clicking a long time that when i go back to switch to normal clicking i cant aim time blockhits or w tap...

[@kuuvene8659]

Same, I bought the model o in October, and since I've been only butterfly clicking

[@valk4657]

i think people have more of a issue with double clicking then butterfly in general

[@adam-mt6vh]

Personally I think drag clicking is unique and drag clicking and the mice community really helped the Minecraft growth. It’s kinda pay to have an advantage I agree and disagree with some parts

[@David27281]

Double clicking is technically an advantage for the players who double click but a disadvantage for people who don't. So I agree with you Intel.

[@rixlcs3644]

Yeah but that’s like saying that jittering is an advantage even though anyone can learn it. Doubleclicking is a skill not just you get the mouse and you can do it. And all of the ingame skills ex: bridging, clutching, and aim are all technically advantages so I do not agree with you.

[@realmexe764]

Finally someone understands why these methods are so overrated edit: You don't need to drag click to win (bedwars) games speed bridging is perfectly fine god bridging is a useless trick to flex on enemies but double clicking is broken because 1. It adds a pay wall to MC 2. It reduces KB and more Drag clicking imo is dumb but double clicking is just broken and servers should ban double clicking

[@thunder8556]

Here is a hot take, double clicking is basically the same thing as autoclicking. (Note that I said basically)

[@Logic_Blade]

True, it is is some ways, a macro.

[@jiahelu6317]

double clicking is indistinguishable from macroing from an anticheat’s perspective.

[@thunder8556]

@@jiahelu6317 That is why I say it's basically the same thing.

[@ohkatze6506]

Im double clicking because is the singl clicking method i can use, i wished i could jitter for pvp...

[@eVCANN]

why can't you jitter?

[@nouu8916]

I used to be shit at jitter but now my aims better than most peoples on mmc

[@ohkatze6506]

@Bluebirdy i tried but i cant is just hard form me my hand hurts and my aim is bad

[@ohkatze6506]

@@eVCANN read the replay that i wrote to @Bluebirdy

[@EldraziPig]

i was looking into drag clicking and im glad this video popped up. I dont wanna get banned from Hypixel! thanks Intel.!

[@dnepp4071]

i agree with intel, i see those clicking methods as a disadvantage, i use a razer deathadder essential myself and i keep encounter some people clicking way faster than a usual pvp-er

[@Legion.z]

I might’ve miss understood but aren’t some mice companies actually making some double clicking mice? Glorious, maybe roccat? So is that a faulty mouse?

[@gladr6687]

Roccat says that the mice that double click are faulty, but glorious does have an adjustable denounce time for double clicking

[@Legion.z]

@@gladr6687 I’ve been hearing that roccat is gonna make a drag/double clicking mouse who knows?

[@unrested7294]

roccat doesn't endorse mouse abusing as far as i know. they refused to sponsor cooldude951 for that reason if memory serves. glorious on the other hand purposefully added a debounce time customizer and that's why it's so popular in the competitive minecraft community; a) it's a built-in feature, b) it's a good mouse all around, not just for mc.

[@Legion.z]

@@unrested7294 well it’s just a rumour that roccat is gonna/making a double clicking mouse, I am not arguing btw.

[@swephest]

INTEL WHY ARE YOU SIDE RUSING ON PERNICIOUS

[@erasedcitizenx]

I’ve always thought drag clicking/double clicking is alright for the same reason that having a better pc than other players is alright. Hardware can always give huge advantages and I don’t see why a mouse than can drag would be any different

[@mallusaih]

ikr, like in this case servers should add like a 30 fps limit for ppl with bad laptops

[@clemexe8192]

@@mallusaih yeah

[@lamptowel]

The difference is, modern mice don't doubleclick mostly, while some are specifically tailored to. In a gaming computer the end goal is the best framerate, no one makes a computer with a goal to have a defect. It just makes it unfair that if you don't like or have a hard time using the doubleclick mice, you're gonna be at a disadvantage

[@pearloe101]

On every logitech mouse, you can add a double click bind replacing your primary click, through the logitech ghub

[@olddog4501]

That is cheating and will get you banned.