The Problem With Genshin Impact's Weapon System

Earlier this year I made a video discussing the many issues behind Genshin Impact's artifact system and unfortunately the weapon system is just as bad if not worse. So let's talk about everything wrong with it!
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[@VarsII]

My mistake: primordial jade cutter and haran geppaku futsu are both better than black sword statistically speaking. Looking back I should've double checked my math. Although I still stand by the notion that the difference in strength is nowhere near enough to warrant the cost to obtain them.

[@JeslynRei]

That statement was very flawed, make sure to check the stats before making statements like these. I watched your vids for a while but admittedly, I have start to change the way on how I watch your videos. From this video, I feel you paint a certain general narrative in your videos, and I think I will need to be more critical in how you approach your topics. Just my opinion though.

[@VarsII]

@@JeslynRei Fair enough. But I feel like that detail was minor. The point of the video wasn't that 5 star weapons aren't as good as 4 star, but that they're too specific and the means to obtain them aren't even remotely worth the incentive.

[@Syudarin]

@@VarsII what? Jade cutter the most versatile weapon of the entire game. Everyone sword user appreciate it. It's XQ and Keq BIS. Is 200-ish flat attack and freakin 44 crate too specific? LMAO What do you thing about summit shaper series? It give attack and attack, is it enough vesatile? But this series acknowledged as scam weapons. Some weapons really too specific donut for example.

[@VarsVerum]

@@Syudarin Jade cutter is the most versatile weapon in the game because it's just a stat stick. That's the whole point of the video. Weapons would be more versatile if they WEREN'T specific. The jade cutter example was me showing how specificity only makes things feel more unfulfilling. Keqing's best weapon is Mistsplitter Reforged. Jade cutter IS good but at the end of the day it's a regular stat stick. The only reason that's a bad thing is because there are specific weapons good for specific characters. If they weren't specific, then Jade cutter would feel much more satisfying to buy.

[@JeslynRei]

@@VarsII Ah well, yes, your comment on the issue is a minor point, but I have other points from the video from I do disagree with that I won't go into detail for now. I see where your reasoning is coming from mostly, and there are a few others that had already voiced the same disagreements I had, so I think I'll just agree to disagree.

[@s.m3065]

People know the weapon banner is a scam , but it is weird to me you have to lose twice before guaranteeing the desired weapon .

[@azurehua]

I mean it used to be worse

[@s.m3065]

@@azurehua True not having any pity at all is way worse .

[@themarc7108]

Well, didn't they put that pity system in place after the incident with Tectone ? I mean, it's just sad that unless you are a whale or haven't spent any primo in the last 10months, this pity system is nearly useless since it doesn't even carry over. ...but yeah, I guess getting your weapon after spending a year worth of primogems is better than nothing. Edit : Nvm, it was Tectone who got scammed by the weapon banners, thanks for the reminder. Edit 2 : since people don't read the edits, I replaced Tony To by Tectone in the original message...I got it, stop correcting me XD

[@balthazardoctaviusbarnabe5444]

It's not because it's better than before that it's good

[@humblebee5597]

@@themarc7108 what incident with tony to? Pls tell me.

[@balthazardoctaviusbarnabe5444]

The fact that a weapon costs more to pull than a character is frustrating enough in itself to say that the weapon system is badly designed.

[@saba-rr8dw]

personally i think that a character must be harder to get than the weapon, take honkai for example, guruanteed character 100 pulls and the weapon 50/40 pulls, i think genshin should follow that too

[@HankSensei]

yeah! Plus weapons don’t even help. well, they do.. But , Pkeple think it’s just the substat. “crit dmg means it’s good! if it doesn’t have crit dmg or crit rate as the substat then it’s not good.” well, Not all the time. ATK % is good, even focus on its main base atk and focus on its passive too, it’s not all about its sub stat

[@rhs3478]

Im not saying that this is a good thing but on another perspective since four star weapon's have more utility maybe hoyoverse creates 5star weapons character specific because they want players to wish on the character banner more🤷🏼‍♀️

[@TacticalDimples]

@PYXB3 genshin is also backwards when it comes to other things too like start constellations and reverse powercreep.

[@TacticalDimples]

@@rhs3478 which doesn’t make sense. Would it be better for them to wish on both the weapon banner and character banner!

[@fanaticureshusbando]

My biggest complaint about weapons is that they don't add new 4 star weapons to the standard banner.

[@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58]

Yeah, like there are so many good new 4* weapons (Lithic, Alley, & Wavebreaker series) yet they're limited and aren't even guaranteed unlike the 5*s. Feels like we're still stuck with Favonius & Sacrificial weapons forever

[@mileskittman]

Counter-point, but adding more options to the standard banner will dilute the probability of getting the currently available 4* weapons on it. Both Favonius and Sacrificial weapons are substantially improved by adding refinements that increase the reliability of their passive effect triggering. More 4* options means lower probability of getting a specific 4* result, and by extension, make refinements less achievable.

[@fanaticureshusbando]

@@mileskittman That's a good point, and one that adding new free to play friendly weapons through crafting and events like they have been doing addresses well.

[@Axterix13]

@@mileskittman Yeah, and the same goes for a bunch of the other four stars as well. Stringless and Rust, as two more bow examples, want those refines. Also, Lithic weapons are a series that theoretically get better over time, due to there being more Liyue characters to use, but practically speaking, get worse, due to there being a higher opportunity cost to using those Liyue characters (so many more non-Liyue characters). But that said, once you've made enough wishes, you'll have enough of most/all of the four star weapons, especially since the featured character banners give the same four star weapon options as the permanent one. And that means pulling them gets you 2/5th of a wish and some weapon xp. By this point, I'd rather get enough currency for a wish out of them. Meanwhile, both the permant and featured character banners draw from the same non-changing pool of four star weapons.

[@harryvpn1462]

@@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58 wavebreaker is not limited though

[@narwhale220]

All I want is for the epitomized path points to carry over. I'd wish on the weapon banner more if they did this that's literally the only thing that's held me back on going for some signature weapons :(

[@corrupticecubes418]

I completely agree with you, it makes no sense for character pity to carry over but not weapon pity.

[@luisgerardobujandalopez4994]

@@corrupticecubes418 just hoyoverse wanting to maximize the money they can take from the whales wallets

[@justsomeguy727]

@@corrupticecubes418 it makes no sense to *you* because it doesn't fit your preferred narrative / what you would personally like to see when this type of thing isn't at all new to genshin and has existed within the genre of gacha games since their inception.

[@shinahiragi954]

@@justsomeguy727oh look it's one of genshins white knights

[@walter1824]

@@justsomeguy727 Are most gacha games single player? If they are, that would be the worst way to make money from a game.

[@rirururu4697]

I want more weapons in genshin that are treated like The Catch. Being able to hard farm for hours WITHOUT resin restrictions or whaling in order to get an actually really good polearm felt so rewarding. We don't need more craftables or event weapons, we need more weapons to be implemented into the game like The Catch.

[@nevisnebis1207]

There is a fishing limit though, which sucks because it’s already tedious as hell

[@rirururu4697]

@@nevisnebis1207 You can just join other people's worlds and fish there after running out in your own world. Infinite fishing

[@nevisnebis1207]

@@rirururu4697 forgot about that lol, I gave up at r2 so I haven’t fished in forever

[@RTDice11]

R5 Mailed Flower is a great 4☆ for Diluc too. I'm with you, it'd be great to earn more useable weapons in-game

[@firefly1222]

They won’t because it was a serious mistake what they did with the catch. I don’t know if you noticed, but not only did the fishing weapons start looking like absolute shit afterwards but their stats weren’t anything to write home about because what they did is they gave you a weapon that is similar to some other four stars in the early days that are just very good so you have no reason to pull for weapons on your support characters. Just give the catch

[@AmapolaMystery]

I think that the fact that the widsth is frequently recommended over 5 star catalysts is a major symptom of the problem

[@lurkingone7079]

Thrilling tales is frequently also more recommended.

[@hatakekakashi3228]

There is only 2 5 star catalyst and they are Lost Prayer and Kagura's Verity The others are garbo

[@ronniejacksonjr4910]

@@hatakekakashi3228 skyward isn’t bad, just because the weapons secondary stat doesn’t give crit doesn’t mean it’s trash. It just makes builds slightly easier to manage

[@EB_3693]

Widsith is cracked for sure

[@EB_3693]

The video makes a great point about weapons. I really hope something changes soon

[@wasambu]

"Having a character and not there signature weapon is like taking a test and knowing you can only make a 90%" the words of a god

[@applel2.043]

why would that be a problem ?

[@wasambu]

@@applel2.043 did you even watch the video?

[@applel2.043]

@@wasambu Yes , you only need 70% to pass the test so I don’t see why this is a problem.

[@Theimmure]

@@applel2.043 I think you’re overcomplicating things unnecessarily...

[@applel2.043]

@@Theimmure Why would it unnecessary? It still in the same topic .

[@scylla1772]

Never thought I'd say this, but genshin truly does need more opportunities to grind equipment. There's too much grind for artifacts (at least, too much rng), yet not enough to grind for weapons. This game has so much content locked behind rng.

[@Danny-mp8dq]

Ironically enough, Genshin would be a fantastic game to add grinding, giving it's resin free. Games like Dragalia Lost and Borderlands have their entire endgame built on grinding new and better gear and their players love it

[@el7284]

They would either lock it behind resin or make it generally not worth your time.

[@fleurdelalune8745]

@@Danny-mp8dq Was literally just thinking about Borderlands when the video mentioned a long term way to grind for 5 star weapons

[@chaosinfernoid9008]

@@Danny-mp8dq People forget these games are Lootshooters. Literally tailor made for Loot. Genshin is a frickin Gacha.

[@RaffoPhantom]

@@chaosinfernoid9008 why is "being a gacha = can't have good mechanics" your argument? In the same vein I could say Genshin is not a gacha game because "gacha games are 2D RTB turn based" because 95% of gacha games are. Obviously that is not a true statement. So if Genshin can take on a different combat experience from other gachas that has been established in other games, why can't it adopt another system that has proven successful and seems fitting for Genshin?

[@MrEditorBen]

If only one change could be made, it should be that fate points for the path can be carried over just like pity on character banners. Yes, it’s stupid you have to lose weapon banner twice to get what you want (double unforged anyone?), but at least carrying over the fate points helps make it more bearable.

[@joshuapurificacion5197]

double unforge here...

[@stinkylemony103]

yeah i don't understand why it has to reset every banner

[@pdpgb]

It's why I never roll weapons banner unless I have guaranteed triple pity. I'm not risking losing 180 wishes for literally nothing.

[@RaffoPhantom]

Honestly, I'd meet Hoyo half way so the only changes I'd propose would be to carry over fate points (like character pity) and reduce pity to 60 so it takes a maximum of 180 pulls (just like characters) to guranatee an R1 of a certain weapon. I know there is much better stuff to propose.

[@Anon-fj3jt]

YES, especially carry over!! its not fair for a f2p to lose twice on 2 banners and lose again for the 3rd time :'> (this actually happened, i didnt get the 5 weapon i wanted 3 times because the epitone thing doesnt carry over)

[@aurorasurrealis1032]

OH YES LET FATE POINTS CARRY OVER

[@therealteal620]

It’s so weird fates don’t carry over. Hoyo can be such dickheads. Even dolphins barely have a chance, let alone F2P

[@nyanya9130]

@Jose Gomez I'm sorry but pls tell me ur being sarcastic... there's already a pity system against ftps, then u lose 50/50, and then u don't get the weapon u want when u win 5050 and then u get the weapon, after getting 2 u don't want and that all has to be on the same banner spanning around 24 days. How on earth is a ftp going to get the weapon they want guaranteed?? It should be hard, yes, but not impossible my guy, honour already makes millions from whales c6 and r5 making pity and the epitomised path thing carry over should be a thing, it's literally gonna help ppl who pay 2 win too, not just ftps lol💀💀

[@zkart8038]

@Jose Gomez the company will lose money in the long-run of they lose player base. Its not a smart business move. . Nobody is saying it should be handed to them. People are talking about the chances of getting something for the cost. If they use all their wishes on a weapon banner and don't get it twice, the guarantee on the third should carry over the next weapon banner. That's it. Nobody is saying they should get it for free. If they save their in game wishes, at least they should guarantee a weapon after 180 wishes.

[@unfinishedsoda818]

The problem with the weapon system is that it cost way too much fucking money. Thanks for watching the vid, make sure to like and subscribe.

[@danialyousaf6456]

Keep the double pity system but decrease the number of rolls till a guaranteed 5 star to 30.

[@lyneyed]

@@danialyousaf6456 or make a different type of fate that costs fewer primos, honestly anything that doesnt cost hundreds of bucks

[@danialyousaf6456]

@@lyneyed halving the pity makes more sense than adding another in game currency that's purchasable.

[@CeruleanRogue]

Too much money and the fact that you can get characters off the weapon banner too... I was so mad when I realized that the first time I pulled off the banner and got Bennett for my guaranteed 4* instead of a weapon. Don't get me wrong Bennett is great but holy hell, you should not be able to get characters off the weapon banner. Period. As it stands there's just no reason to pull on the weapon banner unless you get lucky on the event banner and are feeling lucky.

[@paulyvii]

Change the guaranteed pity to one and weapon banner is saved

[@abdulmohammadyaqub266]

Honestly, I kinda wish genshin would also give 5 star weapons outaide of gacha. Such as getting a 5-star after you 36 star the abyss for certain number of times. This way, completing the abyss would actually have more value other than just for primos.

[@captaindanger13]

@@okularnik125 i mean they could just only provide the five stars you can get from the permanent banner. also 36 stars is not nothing. I've never gotten 36 stars before. Most I've ever gotten is 32.

[@deadshade442]

Lol. This guy wants a 5 star just for clearing the abyss!!!! Joke of entire genshin lifetime

[@deadshade442]

@@Tanubtanu not u bruh the dung eater who typed the main comment.

[@copycat6775]

They give f2p players more than enough, and as a person who’s paid their share I’d prefer not to have all my standard banner characters c6 because then losing a 50/50 is complete garbage and brings me nothing

[@copycat6775]

@@Tanubtanu “worth the grind” after you’ve done it once it doesn’t get hard enough to grind

[@hatakekakashi3228]

The problem is how it resets after every banner and you have to do 3 pities to guarantee your weapon

[@lurkingone7079]

I could get 2 qiqis and one featured 5 star for the amount of fates. And those may have more use.

[@Telogor]

Pity and feature guarantee don't reset; only Epitomized Path stacks do. If you pull on weapon banner and get a non-featured 5-star, your next 5-star on weapon banner will be one of the featured weapons, no matter when that is.

[@hatakekakashi3228]

That's what I meant bruh

[@ZanathKariashi]

@@Telogor he means the fate points. If you're at 2 fate points and can't pull a 3rd 5* before the banner ends, those 2 fate points are lost and you have to start over collecting fate points. If fate-pity carried over, you could at least gaurantee your next banner 5* was the weapon of your choice more easily, similar to how you can game the normal pity system. However weapon banners always have 2 featured weapons, so you need some way of selecting which weapon to apply your fate-pity for that will carry over between banners. they just need to make it so that you can't change pity mid-banner without flushing your fate, but you can select a new weapon at the start a banner without resetting the left-over fate count from the previous one.

[@MooeyMoo]

Grinding for the catch and it being relatively strong was a great feeling back when the fishing system came out. If there were more opportunities to farm for new types of equipment/weapons I would do it and furthermore entice me to the character associated to said equipment/weapon is designed for.

[@rirururu4697]

Agreed! The best part about farming for The Catch was that it wasn't resin-gated. You could world jump and fish for hours.

[@bethanymcgonigle]

Same r5 it

[@Celestial-yq6hz]

I can tell The Bell should be at least mentioned 😆

[@thelaw_00]

My thinking is that they're were making weapons of various substats early in the game so that they'll be useful to some new future characters or something. Like for example, 3* HP bows are almost equally as good as 4/5* on Yelan

[@sucklemecockles541]

ngl the bell could have been useful if its a different weapon type. like if its a polearm, the big boost in hp will be useful to zhongli.

[@lenardbraga6020]

@@sucklemecockles541 not to mention its passive that increase DMG by decent amount when shielded. It feels like it was made for Zhongli for some reason.

[@jenniferchaulam]

/coulda been a sword, then i could give it to kuki shinobu

[@minhanhnguyen2213]

I would love to see everything you said to happen but unless mihoyo get a major backlash like the old weapon banner system (for example: the tectone's homa situation) then i don't think they're gonna change it at all, they're making tons of money out of it. The fact that you have to loose twice make you more cautious to the weapon banner at first but once you roll for it and you lost, you know the fate point won't be transferred, you're gonna pay to get the weapon and only spend more next time because you already made a precedent. Not mentioning the fear of missing out.

[@jadecoolness101]

This is why I never pull on weapon banner. It's a scam. The only time I'll CONSIDER pulling is if I literally have 240 wishes saved and can 100% hard guarantee that I get the weapon I want.

[@meepmeep-mw3lq]

it feels so predatory, like preying on ppl who ever set their foot on weapon banner 😩

[@applel2.043]

Why would you role if you know you hav a chance to not get it ? That dumb asf. It like stacking pity .

[@Azaleaaah]

@@jadecoolness101 Its not good to pull if you're new or have characters to pull but if you're like me it's not so bad. My goal is to make my mains stronger and I already have everyone I want so I did pull on weapon banner thrice.

[@TheRiddick1998]

For those who dont know, in the shogun weekly boss fight, when she clones herself the correct clone is the one who fires electricity in X form as you can see at 1:03 in the vid.

[@mowerthelawn451]

I did not know that, thanks!

[@TheRiddick1998]

@@mowerthelawn451 you're welcome :D

[@JJdances97]

I always end up going for the wrong one (literally go for all of em EXCEPT the right one) and just about gave up on aiming for the achievement as a result. Thank you sm for that advice cause you've given me hope again now 🙏🏻❣️

[@TheRiddick1998]

@@JJdances97

[@Telogor]

For someone who makes in-depth content about Genshin, Vars has surprisingly many gaps in his Genshin knowledge.

[@Sternendrache11]

I get the welkins and the BP every time I get it to 50. Even with that I can't afford to go after every character let alone their weapons. The fact that you can lose the 50/50 twice on a weapon banner, as well as that the pity doesn't carry over are two things on top of the incredibly specificity of each weapon that makes that banner a no go for me. I don't even consider pulling on it.

[@milodiin]

Wait the pity doesn't even carry over? Wow that's trash

[@CVHatsunemiku]

@@milodiin yep it doesn't 😭😭😭 take it from me, I've lost the weapon banner 50/50 four times in a row and never got the weapon I want

[@jadecoolness101]

@@milodiin pity carries over, fate points don't. Remember, on weapon banner, pity is exclusively "after 80 pulls, a 5 star is guaranteed" Fate points are the way to choose a specific 5 star weapon. So lets say you fail the weapon banner twice (have 2 fate points). The next 5star WILL be your chosen weapon. But you only make it to 50 pulls before the banner ends. On the next weapon banner, you will get a 5star weapon within 30 pulls (50+30=80 pity). But it is NO LONGER guaranteed to be what you chose (fate points reset to 0). Hope that makes sense, words are hard

[@nationalgeografic7687]

Umm, just don't pull for a weapon banner, what's the problem?

[@christianluke2961]

Same here, I put more priority on getting different characters and experiencing their playstyle than their exclusive weapons. Besides you can craft/farm for some of those already it just takes time

[@CountMonsparkle]

Then there's also the problem of the 5-star weapons that are almost entirely outclassed by their 4-star counterparts. Many people including myself aren't even wishing on the weapon banner out of fear of getting a The Unforged or Memory of Dust that is literally equivallent to 70 wishes wasted.

[@lstsoul4376]

Unforged is pretty good on eula with zhongli

[@Melotaku]

@@lstsoul4376 That’s just it, you need Eula AND Zhongli. Not everyone has both of them. (Heck I have neither)

[@ayatoculus]

@@lstsoul4376 have neither but i still have an unforged cause i really got baited by the idea of a mistsplitter for my jean :')

[@lstsoul4376]

@@ayatoculus you can still use amenoa sword on her

[@ayatoculus]

@@lstsoul4376 i do but i wanted mistsplitter for the extra damage

[@borRIING]

The counterpoint is that if a weapon works on everyone, the players would only need to pull for that 1 weapon. And then they will be able to equip 5 different characters, thus lowering sales. I'm sure Genshin realized this early, and that's why they make them so specific now.

[@Freenos]

Specificity is also a way to tackle powercreep as power is distrubuted into niche scenarios instead of catch all characters/weapons like Bennet and the Amenoma Kageuchi.

[@aquamarinerose5405]

considering getting a weapon is like 200 dollars with average luck. You SHOULD be able to use it on everyone. Either make it that weapons are general purpose, or cut the price down by like 90%

[@yoba867]

@@aquamarinerose5405 $200 is a pocket change for gacha. Weapons aren't aimed at low spenders, they are aimed at whales. Sometimes you get universal bait like homa or whatnot but it's an exception, not the rule

[@aquamarinerose5405]

@@yoba867 Yea but my point is I don't think that's okay. I think these games should be created as to allow both low and high spenders to enjoy the game about equally, since like whether 10 people play 10 dollars or 1 guy spends 100 dollars that's still the same amount of money, or perhaps even more if there are actually 20 people who'd be willing to pay 10 dollars but only 1 who'd pay 100

[@yoba867]

@@aquamarinerose5405 Have you played the game? It get progressively worse the stronger you get (combat wise). You go far past the point of struggling, having to do mechanics and dodge even as a complete f2p very very fast. There is no whale content in the game. There is no competitive scene, you aren't forced into co-op with whales, there really isn't any benefit to getting those 5* numbers outside of having bigger number = better person mindset, being a completionist (please stay away from gacha if you are one) or really wanting to speedrun (and there is a f2p speedruns cathegory). Usually gacha tries to f*ck you as hard as possible to make you spend money, DI would be a good recent example. Genshin really doesn't. If weapons being too specific sways people who aren't leviathans and couldn't care less about the money from spending it on slight number increases of their jpegs it's a plus in my book

[@heoniseokjin]

Considering the fact that you’re only guaranteed your desired weapon after losing 2 50/50s, I wish the weapon banner pity was halved

[@ZeroBlue0956]

Aqua simulacra is said to be the second or third best weapon for almost every bow dps. Even if the hp % boost is useless for them, Ganyu, Tartaglia, Yoimiya and even Aloy benefit a lot from this bow. (Theory crafting was done on almost every bow user but it's better on these ones)

[@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_]

I feel like many people dismiss the Aqua as Yelan-centric when it is literally Jade Cutter but dmg% instead of atk%

[@nohtbad9344]

@@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_ much like people dissing redhorn stonethresher for characters that aren't Noelle, Itto or xinyan. The crit value from these weapons are always good to be used as stat sticks

[@christyobrien7680]

I use it on sara even though I have skyward cause her and Diona are only my bow character built I'm not building Amber if I get yoi then she can take it but still

[@captaindanger13]

i mean he did say you can use it on those characters, but they just already have their own weapons.

[@ZeroBlue0956]

@@captaindanger13 yes I know, I just wanted to clarify that it is more versatile than we think

[@calvin3379]

I feel like the video could of touched on the poor billet system. They are essentially the best f2p weapons however they are so unreliable to farm for that by the time you have enough forged for R5 you could probably get a dedicated 5* that outshines it and would almost certainly have a sacrificial or favonius of the same type that would be universally serviceable as opposed to the incredibly niche billets. There isn’t a single Ganyu that prefers R5 Prototype over any 5* bow because of the sheer power gap. You’re left with a very pretty but entirely outclassed weapon that needed excessive effort (and luck) to get.

[@Rpground]

There is only one weapon banner I have ever wished on, and it was the Kagura's Verity and Primordial Jade Cutter banner. Both 5 stars are amazing and, as a Klee main, I wanted a BiS weapon for her. Sure, I got three Jade Cutters (I got an extra on my last roll to get Kagura's). But those weapons will never lose value 44% crit chance is just too valuable on a weapon and makes artifact farming a million times easier for a sword character.

[@mileskittman]

My only regret is refining all three of mine from the same banner into one R3 Jade Cutter. Looking back I would have been substantially better served by having three seperate Jade Cutters that could give that crit chance to separate characters at the same time.

[@ronniejacksonjr4910]

I really want another jade cutter, I should have summoned on that banner, but i was trying to get miko

[@cheese1008]

bruh klee with kaguras is a direct downgrade from the widsith

[@Rpground]

@@cheese1008 Uhh...sure, let me just get all those Widsiths I don't have, lol. Yeah, I am that unlucky. Also, having a weapon that is 33% of the time just bad is not consistent enough for me to consider as a good weapon even if I had one. At least Kagura's is consistent and plays into her animation cancelling playstyle. Can also get the full stack buff to last on Klee for over a minute with proper play. I find that much more fun rather then hoping I don't lose a 66% chance every fight that is entirely out of my control. Not even mentioning the downtime. Assuming perfect rolls everytime, yes. Widsith is better, but reality is often disappointing. In my opinion, Kagura's is Klee's BiS because of those downsides.

[@cro1ssauntt]

i have never thought about weapons being badly designed but now that i think about it … still isn’t as badly designed as i would’ve thought when i initially started thinking

[@Axterix13]

For the most part, they aren't. LIke Eula's sword is perfectly fine on most characters, and many of the signature weapons are the same. Sure, they might not be best in slot for someone, but most of the time, the "best I have available" trumps "the best that exists" for most characters we have. Wishes are too limited/pricey for it to be otherwise, and the BiS weapon generally isn't huge over the next best option. Heck, with many a recent character, a single constellation extra tends to have about the same value as upgrading to the BiS weapon. There are exceptions, of course. Some weapon designs are pretty bad. Most of the Earthforged series are meh, in large part because they are double attack % focused (when we generally prefer crit stats and/or DMG from weapons) and offer shield strength, which is a poorly designed stat, due to being of use for the shielded character (who needs to be on field to benefit, and is therefore probably much more interested in a damage related stat) rather than the shielding one. Until they give us a character that scales nicely off shield strength, they'll be lackluster. Catalysts also tend to suck, though most of those are also older weapons, before Hoyoverse figured things out better. Though then there's Kokomi's weapon, which is new, overly niche, and not even that great for being overly niche compared to commonly available alternatives. The problem is more with the weapon banner. If the weapon banner just worked like the character one, with one featured weapon and pity that carries over, it'd be a huge improvement. If they want to feature two weapons, well, they could just have two banners. Or let us pick the one of the two we want. The epitomized path crap could instead be used to let us pick the four star we want (with probably a higher number), and that could also be applied to character banners. But even just keeping the epitomized path count across banners would be an improvement.

[@Relevart9169]

He's just gaslighting as usual. Just because aqua simulacra or staff of homa have extra hp as a passive that doesn't mean they're bad weapons. Extra hp doesn't mean less dmg, their main stats and other parts of the passive are already amazing

[@Chopsparillo]

They’re not that bad. It makes sense for five stars to get their own weapons that suit the way they play. The problem is the weapon banner and how expensive it can be to guarantee the weapons.

[@deadshade442]

Weapons aren't badly designed, weapon banners are.

[@JuggerToad]

I'm annoyed they're making specific weapons and artifacts for specific characters. It sometimes makes building them boring. But also sometimes, you get stuff like EOSF and VV, which dominates on anyone who can use it.

[@user-jh6vt8vx4v]

Weapon specialize for someone, yes. Artifect special for someone? Not so much. There are some combination sub and main state on artifact fit someone better. But that is all about luck. And the benifit fir set bonus are mean toward what you want to build rather than who you want to built.

[@f4llenleaves]

It's cos we're still less than halfway through the game. Pretty sure every "niche" weapon will eventually have many users

[@JuggerToad]

@@f4llenleaves Yes, this is correct. However, it's not a good game design choice regardless. We need more weapons like the BP and Blackcliff weapons that are good for any DPS, or more weapons like Homa that are all-around good for mostly any build. Obviously in 4-star variants, otherwise it'd be power creep.

[@applel2.043]

@@JuggerToad bruh , crit or supose to be exclusive to the battle past and black cliff set for 4 star weapon .THere no way mihoyo change it.

[@gyrrin4051]

The first thing that comes to mind is the fact that there are limitations for the base attack and the substat, with an emphasis on how the substat and the base attack are directly correlated, and there's a limit to how many combinations there are. After some thought, I think that at a certain point, the weapon skill decides the usability of a weapon, and can ruin a weapon with generally good base stats.

[@nadaadlouni6657]

i think the substat and base attack being directly correlated is a good idea, it gives a sense of balance. if they want to make this game for fair, they should probably add more actually decent craftable options. currently almost all of them are ridiculously niche and arent even recommended in most cases.

[@wrenthemighty8887]

In my opinion I think after you have the character correlated with the weapon the chance to get the weapon should go very drastically up. But only after you get the associated character. I know there would be definitely better ideas and this doesn’t account for the standard five star weapon banner, but it’s the best i got.

[@bletwort2920]

At least they should have the fate points carry over. I have lost three times to the wrong limited 5-star weapon and have to start over each banner only to lose again.

[@pumbawins9652]

Honestly, I like the specialisation of certain weapons, because it makes particular niches more fun. Redhorn may be made for Itto, but Xinyan and Noelle gained a solid buff with it. Thundering pulse is tailored for a normal attacking DPS like Yoimia, but Childe and Fischl also benefit from it greatly, and engulfing lighting is mede for characters with very high ER need, but besides Raiden it's very good on Xiangling and melt Rosaria. Also specialised weapons feel more unique. I'd say most genshin 4 and 5 star weapons are great, aside from few too specific weapons like everlasting moonglow and cinnabar spindle.

[@Azaleaaah]

Specialised weapons like Polar, Thundering and etc are great because although they are signatures for certain characters, its still useable for others unlike Donut and Cinnabar. But I feel like too universally great weapons like Homa can be a bit boring as jts pretty much bis for almost everyone. So yeah I agree with you

[@zalm800]

tbh I think having a weapon specifically for a certain character is a amazing and esthetic pleasing idee the problem is the weapon banner

[@asoret]

yes if it costs half of getting character would be cool but they want money

[@zalm800]

@@asoret thats also what I thought instead of the weapon banner being more expensive it should be cheaper than the characters and les pity needed and a nice system that way the idea of characters having their own weapons that benefit them would be a bit more affordable

[@no.notfromRDR]

I would not say that they are badly designed but they're getting a handcrafted for their character a little too much so you either have the character (or at least another with the same gameplay style) or just use it as an really overpriced boomstick

[@themarc7108]

Ah, Kagura's verity... I can't even tell if the weapon was made for Yae, or if Yae was made clunky on purpose so this weapon wouldn't be too good on other catalyst.

[@JohnJillky]

@@themarc7108 Kagura's Verity has the same stat value as Lost Prayer, it's damn near a sidegrade. In many cases it will be among the top 2/3 catalysts to choose from, especially for catalyst characters in quickswap teams or who are off field (where the LP passive is almost useless). Ppl underrate that weapon a lot compared to other catalysts. 5 star catalysts as a whole are mid, KV is just another added the pile lol

[@themarc7108]

@@JohnJillky Well, I never said it was bad, just that to use the passive well (and not after 30 seconds when the enemy should be dead by now), it mostly goes on Yae...it was also a joke about the requirement to triple cast on Yae (which is clunky as hell) and this weapon's passive, like Yae need to triple cast was made so a Crit damage catalyst wouldn't be too good on everyone (just a joke, don't take it too seriously) ^^ But yeah, it's good, sadly we have yet to see a broken catalyst, kinda like staff of homa for polearm, or jade cutter and Mistsplitter for swords.

[@JohnJillky]

@@themarc7108 yeah her kit is just... yeah. Both that and the weapon could've been designed so much better lmao

[@imo098765]

@@JohnJillky not really, Lost Prayer is trash. Verity can actually be used on Klee, Ning, Lisa etc

[@ej4346]

You got me there. I'm one of those people who pulled for Albedo because of cinnabar spindle. But also because of his new artifacts. So rare that a character gets buffed like that. 😁

[@hatakekakashi3228]

Noelle mains be like :

[@niklasluhman4362]

i dont have cinnabar spindle, so i will never pull for albedo, thx mihoyo i really want albedo

[@raywa5821]

@@niklasluhman4362 you can still use harbinger of the dawn, it’s not bad xd

[@spiderninja_1]

I was already planning to pull for Albedo in the rerun, but after seeing how the sword and artifacts would buff him, I was just more determined to get him. And I did :D

[@TinyyTato]

Yeah same here

[@arthurmarengone7280]

I would love to see a video about Niche Supports, lime Yunjin, Sara, Gorou and Shenhe. Just an ideia ~=~

[@saturdayilgrande]

Totally!!

[@yashtandon7460]

The word niche is wrongly associated with them. They buff a lot more characters than one actually expects. Shenhe boosts every cryo damage dealer in the game and every damage dealer that will come to the game in the future. With Chongyun, Shenhe is boosting every melee attacker in the game. Same for Sara and electro damage dealers. Same for Yun Jin and normal attackers. Gorou does look more specific with supporting a defense scaling geo character, but it does seem like hoyoverse is making geo the defense element with most of the recent geo characters being defense scaling and also releasing an artifact set which is defense and geo scaling. So none of these characters are actually niche. Looking at the characters in the meta, they may look niche as the only meta unit Sara is boosting is Raiden, for Shenhe it is Ayaka and Ganyu, for Gorou it is Itto and for YunJin it is Yoimiya and Ayato. So pulling for these characters is not as niche as what a lot of people say.

[@Unwebonnn]

They are in no way Niche, they're just very specialized with their own element

[@saturdayilgrande]

@@Unwebonnn yea dula but they are not so used that's why they are called niche. I personally love Sara and I think she is a must for a raiden dps but we have to admit that she can't be that good for a non electro unit

[@Unwebonnn]

@@saturdayilgrande True true, the thing is with Shenhe there are some Cryo dps like Chongyun, Ganyu, Ayaka etc, and Gorou has like Noelle, Itto, etc and Yun Jin has many who rely on normal attacks, but we don't really have a defined electro dps other than maiden and rarely Beidou

[@chrisp9859]

Probably only a few well-designed (or at least exciting) weapons, easily acquired: Widsith Favonius series Blackcliff series Sacrificial series Some craftable 4* And then there’s the battlepass stuff which is stuck behind a paywall. And then there’s the 3* weapons that are amazing in some use cases Black tassel for shieldbot Zhongli White Tassel for Xiangling Harbinger of Dawn Slingshot Debate Club (the almighty) Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers And that’s about it. All the great weapons are super RNG based and down to guesswork

[@Rapiers-and-flowers]

The prototype weapons are also pretty good too

[@eggnog4266]

the catch is also pretty cracked

[@Axterix13]

A bunch of the four star event weapons are decent as well. And if you are around during the event, they fall into the easily acquired category, and at R5 at that. Problem is, we have yet to see a single one of those events re-run, meaning that players who missed them the first time are SoL.

[@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_]

Widsith can be RNG at times when the wielder doesn't benefit from EM (Ningguang mainly)

[@olixil68]

The Watatsumi series weapons like Wavebreaker’s Fin & Mouun’s Moon are also cracked. Also The Catch is obtainable for everyone at any time after teapot is unlocked.

[@themidnightotaku22]

5-star weapons just shouldn’t be restricted to the same parallel character banner it was meant for. The weapon banner should just increase your odds of getting that weapon even when it’s available on a standard banner through normal means.

[@YuFanLou]

“The higher the rarity of the weapon the more all purpose it should be.” NO! An “all purpose” five star weapon would instantly take away all design space left at its power level and force power creep on weapons coming out after it. Sure, this weapon would sell like crazy, but what about the next one? Like a card game but to a lesser extent, you have to balance each option with how much design space it takes away. Therefore more powerful effects are gated by rarer situational triggers. Five star weapons being the most powerful, it makes sense for them to be the most situational, to the point of matching specific characters. This is very different from games which you buy once and play forever like most Final Fantasy games, in which designers are free to put in an Ultimate Weapon as reward for finishing the game in some sense. Case in point, the Rocket Launcher in Resident Evil series. That doesn’t work for games without an “end”, such as Gacha game. Power creep is in a sense asset depreciation, because you have to increase difficulty of new content to match, which makes old weapons appear weaker. Genshin has been better than most at managing power creep. Idea in this video would work against that.

[@generalginyu8594]

Fully agree, thanks for that comment.

[@quasarkwell4823]

To be fair, Vars said that weapons should probably cater more towards playstyles and not characters themselves. A weapon for freeze Ayaka rather than melt Ayaka but can work on other characters. I like the idea but I have no idea how it could be implemented.

[@darkdude1996ify]

coughcoughHomacough

[@luckysgi-5karrow378]

The core issue with all this is exactly the "design space" notion lol. This is Genshin Impact. What "design space"??? It's only 3 buttons to attack 3 different ways and just stacking passives. Ironically, the characters that actually utilize that space the best are the meta rule breakers like Xiao, Eula, and Itto or those that push the meta far as fk like Bennett, Yelan, Xingqiu, Xiangling, and Kazuha. Everything else is really mid, pun intended, and if scrapped from the game, then there wouldn't be much of a difference gameplay-wise. And the other core issue is mentioned along with the premium price games. It's only an issue in Genshin/gacha games because being gacha. Maybe just remove the star rating system for weapons themselves (anything basic is an improvement at this point, like with lots of Genshin's stuff): They all start at 1-star and must ascend like characters with more effects, both passive & active, at higher ascensions. It would relieve the pain of losing 50/50 on weapon banner for how much of a primogem sink those mfkrs can be, nevermind the RNG, and can be a basis for balancing everything as everything can hit max ascension levels. Regarding "design space" again, it would be interesting to see a 6-star White Tassel, 6-star The Widsith, or 6-star Skyward Pride and see how they complement various playstyles.

[@tripple-a6031]

The weapon banner is a scam, but except for that I don't see any inherent problem with the weapons. Some are really good, some are kinda bad, some are only missing the right character or enemy. Edit: It was more or less only about the weapon banner... waste of time.

[@ozy667]

Oh except for that, yeah, except that its literally pay to win AND has two 50/50s AND the fact that it shouldnt exist because having to wait months to a year for one fucking character is enough, yeah, except for that one thing. its perfect.

[@Sonnenblume997]

How is weapon banner a scam? I'm a low spender and I've gotten Song of Broken Pines/Engulfing Lightning/Calamity Queller/Staff of Homa/Mistplitter forged/Haran all in less than 50 bucks.

[@lunazzii9092]

Earth your literally just lucky, for other people imagine getting to 2 pities lost on weapon banner, but before you can get the weapon you want the banner ends and now youve lost your guarantee that youve spent nearly 130 pulls for

[@basayyyy]

@@Sonnenblume997 thats like a 0.01% chance of happening which the rest of us dont get im a light spender yet to get amos i had to get 2 painful vortex vanquishers just to get it and lost all the wishes i had saved

[@tripple-a6031]

@@Sonnenblume997 Either you're incredibly lucky, are lying or misremembering. Whatever the reason it should still be obvious to you that it's a scam in general.

[@winstonrutherford6548]

I think there are a couple changes I'd make to the weapon wishing system: 1. Change the epitomized path to only 1 wrong drop like the 50/50, and further make the stacks stay across banners 2. Maybe with a rumoured standard banner revamp, have a weapon and character banner for standard, with some set of more universal weapons, or at least the addition of some of the better ones 3. This one is an I'm not sure, but weapon banners could be split into one each like double character banners, so (if ignoring number 1), it functions largely the same as a character banner. I think this would just make it more fair, and more accessible for the free-to-play and low-spender player base.

[@LittleSparklingStars]

They won't do that cause they're making bank anywway. That banner is some sadistic shit for real.

[@winstonrutherford6548]

@@LittleSparklingStars yh unfortunately its definitely idealistic ;-; my hope is that if enough low spender players migrate to hsr they'll have slightly more incentive for better quality gacha system plus other quality of life updates (more resin would be great but thats never happening lmao)

[@elv6240]

i disagree with the aqua simulacra being a weapon "exclusive" only for yelan. yes ofc she will benefit from it the most, but you have to remember the weapon's other passive which will increase damage unconditionally which is generally good. i don't count the being near opponent part a condition because in the end, you will fight enemies from close range. for example if you're playing yoimiya against tge maguu kenki, you need to be close to him otherwise it will block your attacks. the same goes for fischl because you will usually put oz near an opponent for it's initial damage

[@thebrigade7684]

This video source material is something like: "I made this the fuck up" when he said blacksword better than Jade cutter on Keqing I died inside.

[@ovo5288]

Something that’s probably not considered bad that I myself don’t like: Every recent signature weapon has a substat of Crit Rate or Crit Dmg. sure it makes a weapon more universal, but combined with the power creeping base attacks that keep on rising with every new release, it’s bugs me personally for some reason. i can’t explain why, it just does.

[@jeremiahsmith916]

Of course it’s annoying. It basically means that people either can afford a crit stat stick, or have to lose their sanity farming for crit artifacts for months with no guarantee of success ever at all. It’s textbook case of privilege and it’s upsetting to be among those who don’t have it

[@nekonochesire6023]

@@jeremiahsmith916 I don't get your point, whether you have the weapon or not you're going to farm artifact anyway and between two players that has perfect crit substat on artifact the one who has the crit weapon will simply have more crit dmg, but both will have farmed artifacts for months anyway. And take some recent characters, like Yoimiya, Itto, Yae, Yelan, they all have crit rate as ascension substat, which makes them easy to get a decent to good crit stat, it's simply that not having their signature weapons means you'll have less crit dmg than those who does. In the end 5* weapon are simply stat stick that gives more dmg than the rest and that's it, so of course those who get those weapons will deal more dmg than those who don't, but it has nothing to do with artifact farming.

[@jeremiahsmith916]

@@nekonochesire6023 there is simply two different ceilings: one with artifacts only (let’s call it X points of crits), and another with artifacts + weapon (X + W). X + W will always be higher than just X alone, it’s just maths. And X + W is behind a paywall, unreachable for those who can’t afford a weapon. Even if a character ascends with crit, people will plaster a weapon *on top* of it, and this character will do more dmg for them than for someone without a weapon. I don’t see your point either, you’re basically comparing a chihuahua to a German shepherd and say “but some German shepherds are small too and some chihuahuas are kinda big” I’m not saying that getting decent damage without a weapon is totally impossible, I’m just saying it’s impossible to get the same damage with artifacts alone.

[@nekonochesire6023]

@@jeremiahsmith916 We're saying the same thing actually, my point was simply that having the weapon had nothing to do with artifact farming, because you said that having a character weapon allows to skip the farming part. Which isn't true, everybody is farming artifacts the same way. And yes weapons, like constellations, and weapon refinements that needs to be payed makes you deal more dmg than not getting the weapon, but I don't see how it's a problem, because if the weapon didn't make your character deal more then what is the point of getting them in the first place ?

[@jacklast]

One example : Aqua simulacra | Good for DPS , good for Support/Sub DPS. Has insane stats of pretty high base ATK and very high crit DMG. Everlasting Moonglow | Can only work with 2 characters in the game. Provides DMG boost of 1% Max HP for only Normal attack. Provides less energy on R1 than an R1 Prototype Amber. Staff of Homa | very universal , good crit damage and HP boost that additionally boosts your character's atk based on their max HP. Vortex Vanquisher | Not even the BiS for the user (zhongli). Staff Of Homa is arguably better than Vort. Vanquisher as it boosts both damage and HP which Zhongli needs. Vort. Vanquisher provides atk which zhongli doesnt scale best of. If the substat is HP it would be better

[@lenardbraga6020]

Additional: Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayer | a 3star weapon that overshadowed it's 5star options. Its viability relies solely on how niche a DPS catalyst playstyle. A niche DPS catalyst would be more viable if she was use as a TTDS holding support rather than her DPS options. Primordial Jade Cutter | straight up broken universal weapon that doesn't have any drawback. Like Staff of Homa, it gives additional HP and Atk based on current HP without any strict HP requirement unlike SoH. It doesn't have any stack mechanics nor niche situation requirement. And gives ridiculous Crit value. "The Liyue 5star Series" | underestimated weapons since they just provides too much Atk and having a stack and shield requirement to utilize. A viable weapon but dissed out due to other 5star weapons that have Crit value. The Bell | regarded as the most useless weapon since it is either "a great weapon in the wrong selection" or "a great weapon with the wrong substats". Since no pure HP scaling Claymore user, there is no character that can utilize it at all, despite it's passive that give decent amount of DMG increase. There are arguments that say "if it's Atk/Defense substats, it would be broken for 'this character's" or "if it's a polearm, Zhongli will be too broken with this"

[@jacklast]

@@lenardbraga6020 yes! I do hope as more characters gets released , the weapons becomes more equal in value as more characters are able to use them.

[@ezurachan]

Funny thing. Vortex was BIS in pre-buffed Zhongli. Why did they not tweak the vortex vanquisher to fit zhkngli is a mystery.

[@Chopsparillo]

@@ezurachan The problem with Vortex Vanquisher isn’t that it’s bad. Just that Homa is 1000x better. They probably didn’t change it because they didn’t need to. Homa being better was probably unintentional and after people figured it out I guess they just didn’t care enough to give more changed to Zhongli after that.

[@Benjamin-xm4dp]

I think it would be a thing to add the BIS (BEST IN SLOT) to the character banner. So you would end up with f.e. a "Yelan Token" after the first time you get her. This way you could trade this token for either her BIS weapon or a constellation. Tbh the weapon banner could then 2 random weapons for non featured characters. So you could still get the weapon you missed out on before. This is atleast what I came up within 10 minutes...

[@Chopsparillo]

That’s actually a pretty cool idea.

[@isuckateverything9676]

Interesting

[@SL-vd5hy]

That’s too generous mihoyo best I could see them doing is making it so a constellation (after u already get C0) is then able to be exchanged for the weapon. But knowing them they’d make it so every one after C6 can be exchanged for a 5star weapon (like the characters BiS or a standard banner weapon)

[@applel2.043]

if that the case then why pull on the weapon banner , we could literally just wait for the character that have the weapon we want , pull for that character and get the weapon. Tell me a reason why i would pull on the weapon banner .

[@Chopsparillo]

@@applel2.043 The point is that you wouldn’t have to wait. If you say, missed the Staff of Homa in 1.3 then maybe it would be on the weapon banner in 1.5 instead of waiting all the way until 2.2 to get one.

[@kuraku_ru]

Designing 5-star weapons with wide-ranging passives would just create a lot of mundane choices with negligible differences. For miHoYo to put those type of passives on 3-4 star weapons is much more preferable imho... 3-4 star weapons are much more attainable so for them to have passives that work on multiple characters makes more sense. Some 5-star weapons are visually designed like cherries on top of their designated characters so I think it's better to stay that way. The only flaw I can see on Genshin's weapon system is the damned banner... and I'm about to pull for Redhorn Stonethresher. F

[@yblpy6042]

exactly. also, the game does not force you to use 5* weapons at all. the extra damage provided by the 5*s are just to boost your ego and increase your fulfilment by seeing bigger numbers. this type of superficial increase in quality being paywalled is nothing worth talking about? the weapon banner, on the other hand, can be improved a lot. haven't been tempted to pull on the banner even once

[@hiro_444]

Good luck for your pulls

[@kuraku_ru]

@@yblpy6042 Completing Abyss isn’t a necessity to enjoy Genshin. Been playing since Day 1 and haven’t ever played beyond 8-3 floor.

[@proles8]

Just use whiteblind bro

[@kuraku_ru]

@@proles8 Whiteblind doesn’t look as good as RS on Itto.

[@evergreen7260]

I don't think it would benefit mihoyo to make all-rounded weapons because if they did that then players would eventually run out of reasons to pull for new weapons I think the majority of their sales come from people pulling for one character, and one weapon, not sure though

[@bigbabydoodle]

*every five star in this game being made in such a way that only one or two people can utilize it for its maximum capacity* staff of homa: and i took that personally

[@Sylnic]

As much as the weapon system can be improved, I don't find it an issue with the current content that's in the game. End game is really not that hard, and can be easily completed using 4 star weapons. If mihoyo ever decides to add harder content, I agree that attaining 5 star weapons is too luck/money dependent, but as of now they're not needed, they're just a bonus. Call it bad design or content f2p players are missing out on, but at the end of the day they're mostly stat sticks and not a significant form of content that people need to enjoy the game.

[@kaito5685]

I agree, they’re not really needed as much as people think. However most people get attached to a character and want to give their fav/most relatable character the best they can, kind of like spoiling your kid or younger sibling. I would sure love my favorite character to do amazing damage. So there is also a massive sentimental aspect.

[@joeyHicks1000]

I find that the cost to level the 5 star weapons is the most outrageous part, 907 mystic enhancement ores compared to 399 for a 3 star weapon. I know there is a reasonable gap in the base performance of a 3 star and a 5 star, but not enough to justify over double the cost, it's almost as if they're punishing you for getting the better weapon, especially if that weapon is tailored to a single character... Also, as a personal gripe, I tend to prefer more simple designs, so watching weapons -bows in particular- grow more horns, spikes and other protrusions the higher their star rating is kinda puts me off too.

[@maraisfan4life517]

That’s not their fault.

[@meechtree5795]

I feel like you got an argument but why’d you compare the five star to a 5 star, it’s a whole two star difference. Arguing the ratio between a 4 and 5 star upgrade cost to the performance gain should’ve been your argument.

[@joeyHicks1000]

@@meechtree5795 depending on the character and weapon combo, there are 3 star options that outperform the 4 star weapons that are readily available, for example I always use Sharpshooter's Oath, Messenger or Slingshot on Amber, while I do only use Messenger for the looks, Sharpshooters Oath is competitive or better than any 4 star for a headshot build, while Slingshot has the highest crit rate of any bow, and gets a 60% damage increase when fighting at close range making it a well rounded choice for boss fights. Also, with characters there is no difference between a 5 star or a 4 star, which is how weapons should be in my opinion. The only reason I used 3 star as opposed to 1 or 2 star was because 1 and 2 stars are limited to lvl70

[@chaosinfernoid9008]

@@joeyHicks1000 Amber KEKW

[@janwarlock]

@@chaosinfernoid9008 Do not, and I repeat, DO NOT diss an Amber Main. They are really fucking scary. One day, a level 90 Amber out-dps'ed my lvl 90 Itto by almost 10K...

[@Immortal306]

I think most 5* weapons are fine. A weapon only being 100% optimal on their chosen character, but still very good on others is fine. For example Homa is designed for Hu Tao, who already scales hp for attack, and with a way to drop her hp in range, which other characters don't. It's still a good weapon on chars that only scale off hp without ways to drop it down (Zhongli) or even don't scale off it at all due to the general good stats that weapon has (decently common on Xiao). Mistsplitter is another good example, even if the char can't trigger all 3 bonuses (only 2, or possibly even at 1), it's still a solid weapon that you can use on basically any dps sword character. I think it's fine for players to be able to go for the character weapons on the chars they really want to minmax, assuming those weapons aren't completely useless (or nearly so) outside it. Kokomi and Eula are examples of bad cases, and Raiden's weapon is a bit on the iffy side (useful on Xiangling, might see more play later).

[@justinbieber8270]

This dude really said that Bennett wasn't all-purpose when he's used in 90% of teams 💀

[@LittleMissFoxy]

This was always the reason I NEVER had the chance to get any weapons because I barely scrape by with just pulling for a character I want especially if I lose 50/50. I feel they should do it like how FEH does it or Dragalia where the weapons could be made and you had every possible way of farming the materials for them in Dragalia or just have the characters come with certain ones.

[@riguor9876]

Something further to point out, is that even in the hyper-specialized state 5* weapons have gotten into, not all 5* weapons are created equal. Kokomi's everlasting moonglow is viable on her and her alone, and even then you might consider Thrilling Tales to be the better option for support. Meanwhile, while weapons like Primordial Jade Cutter, Aqua simulacra and Staff of Homa may favor specific 5* characters more than others, they still perform extremely well on many units and are better than most if not all 4* options. This remains true even if another 5* weapon might technically be better for that specific character. Ganyu and Childe may have their own personal weapons, but Aqua simulacra will still perform extremely well on them if you happen to lack those other options.

[@hatakekakashi3228]

4 star Polearms are kinda trash Aside from the Raiden like polearm, Favonius and Dragon's bane

[@Axterix13]

@@hatakekakashi3228 Not really. Besides the Catch, which is a weapon anyone can R5 with some time invested, you also have the Blackcliff. Black Tassel is pretty good as well, due to there being two polearm users that like HP%. Wavebreaker is good, and there's Deathmatch for the BP purchasers. Personally, I'd say it is probably the most F2P/budget-spender friendly weapon type out there.

[@gooberchannelnomorehhahahahaha]

The problem is that when they do make a good weapon for a current charackter you get from grinding,The event is limited.Fading twighlight,Oatherswirm eye,And the spindle are perfect for their intended charackter.Except there limited and you will never be able to get them again

[@Bakagii]

when free 4 stars are more rare than 5 star

[@fafka1445]

omg hard disagree with so much in this video. First of all the only way for mihoyo to make money and not powercreep with every weapon release is for them to make the weapons more character specific. Any other way there would be little to no incentive to pull for future weapon if all 5 stars were universal. Second Bennett xingqiu xianling are not less universal than 5 stars. 5 star weapons are more universally applicable than 4 stars due to them giving better stats, even if not everything takes effect. Everything is just so mildly incorrect.

[@YayaFeiLong]

I think the biggest reason 5-star weapons are so specialized and character-specific is to avoid powercreep, and by extension avoid the dreaded pay-to-win label. If, for example, every new 5-star polearm buffs damage and works on almost every polearm user, then there's only so many 5-star polearms Mihoyo can release before new polearms start giving bigger buffs than older ones -- otherwise there won't be any incentive at all to roll for the new polearms. But if that happens, and late-game content gets harder to scale with it, then soon enough free-to-plays and even low-spenders will be locked out completely. It's pretty clear that Mihoyo does _not_ want that to happen. But if every new 5-star polearm only buffs damage through very specific circumstances that really only apply to a single character, then Mihoyo can release dozens of new polearms without having to worry about new ones taking over old ones, at least until much later in the game's lifespan. So new 5-star weapons are powerful enough to incentivize whales to play for it, thus turning a big profit, but not so powerful that it completely alienates the free-to-play and low-spender crowds. I'm sure that's Mihoyo's reasoning for it

[@tyrnado9194]

90% of all weapons are designed to do ONLY dmg. The rest are meant for supporting but fail. So yes they are all bad designed. As always hoyo fails to understand that we don't need DMG to have fun, we want fun gameplay

[@KobeniGaming]

Tons of old characters are in terrible shape, hell, even some of the newer ones (Yae being a prime example). Tons of artifact sets are either useless (Bloodstained Chivalry) or are outclassed by others (maiden

[@ZoField]

lmao... the first thing people complain about when a character is released is their damage output XD

[@yblpy6042]

@@KobeniGaming First, this is literally all the community talks about. Case in point, this entire channel. Second, most of genshin's player base are casual players who aren't that involved in genshin. They have quests undone, regions largely unexplored and the spiral abyss unentered. They do not give a shit about the "terrible shape" of the characters because there is literally zero effect on the open world experience. Most of the your grand tribulations about the game simply do not transfer to the majority of players.

[@DarkFrozenDepths]

@@ZoField Yeah, tons actually went that damage focus, which is why Mihoyo pushes for "big numbers" so much on these weapons and characters lately. It's not that characters aren't fun, a lot still are. It's more the fanbase to blame for meta chasing a game that didn't need it. I do agree that the weapons do need to be designed better though. getting dupes is nothing new, but a lot are tailor made to a specific kind of character or even just 1 character in general.

[@endieloe8972]

The rest are meant for supporting but... fail? Elegy and Freedom-sworn: Wolf's gravestone: Sac frags: THRILLING TALES: THE ENTIRE FAVONIOUS SERIES: ?????

[@givongibson]

Hoyoverse knows how to do a good weapon banner, if you take a look at Honkai’s weapon banner system it’s much more friendly to its player base Every 10 pulls on the exclusive weapon banners gives you a boosted chance to obtain either their signature weapon or a piece of their signature gear That paired with the large amount of crystal giving events that take place makes obtaining weapons so much easier They know how to do it better but they just don’t and I’m sad 😞

[@gryphose1849]

Not to mention weapons aren't quite so heavily-character specific. Yes, an S-rank wants their specific weapon, but that same weapon could also be really useful for another character (i.e. HoT and Darkbolt both have Key of Castigation/Domain of Sanction as BiS, even though Darkbolt doesn't get the extra perks from it that HoT does.)

[@DJ-qz6dc]

Genshin Impact is their cash cow. I get kinda disappointed when I see new game releases from Hoyoverse knowing that they don't communicate their willingness to improve on Genshin's game systems, if they even want to improve it. I know that maybe these new games are probably ideas that they left on the shelf years back but didn't develop since funding. But still.

[@jovelyndungog5366]

@@gryphose1849 red lotus and nirvana heavily needs signature weps tho but realistically in exalted if you only play for rewards A3 is enough

[@gryphose1849]

@@jovelyndungog5366 Yeah, I'm very much a permanent resident of A3. I'm not all that concerned with getting high scores and actually do what I can to keep from moving up to red lotus (usually involving figuring out what the lowest score that gets trophies is and ensuring I come in under it.) I 'could' reach red lotus if I really wanted to, but then its too much work to get rewards and I don't have time for that.

[@claggor1070]

@@DJ-qz6dc Agree. Genshin impact funds are used to make their other games better.

[@popssnek7007]

Can you add a link to the music you use in your videos? I liked the one in this video but don’t know where I’d ever find it

[@Venandi_]

This makes tons of sense, I pulled on the weapon banner twice specifically to get a 4 star weapon, the five stars never felt worth it even if it featured the weapon of a character I had/wanted

[@caelus1710]

I'm still hung up over the fact that Hoyoverse hasn't released any new 4 star gacha weapons since November of last year. That's so strange considering that since then there's been: •3 New DEF scaling characters practically in a row (Itto, Gorou & Yun Jin) •3 New HP scaling characters. (Yelan, Shinobu and even though Ayato's HP scaling is more of a side benefit that a focus it's still part of his kit) •Multiple reruns of characters who scale with the above stats (Albedo, Zhongli, Kokomi and Itto *again*) You'd think it would improve banner sales since players would be more inclined to on a banner if they could at least get a decent new 4 star weapon that they couldn't already get regularly. So I can only guess that Hoyoverse found that new 4 star weapons didn't impact weapon banner sales very much. In which case, I would say that the weapon banner has bigger problem than no new 4 star weapons.

[@soratsukihana2662]

Would be really great if we coukd somehow farm for them. Or even obtain them with starglitter. And the pool for the standard banner should be increased and something more than 25 starglitter should be given if u pu a 5 star over C6

[@applel2.043]

if we could farm for 5 star weapon then this wouldn't be a gacha game

[@soratsukihana2662]

@@applel2.043 u can farm for artefacts in epic 7. It takes ages but it is possible and u can get mats for that from wishes too. So it is possible, but really limited in time and not fast to obtain

[@applel2.043]

@@soratsukihana2662 is artifact the equivilant of weapon ?

[@soratsukihana2662]

@@applel2.043 yes. Weapons and artefacts are switched there. Weapons and armor are farmed and artefacts are from gacha.

[@HavocRant]

Petition for Vars IV (4) so I can finally learn what competitive Pokémon is like

[@ArnoldFrost]

The weapons in general aren't an issue imo, but the way they're acquired. Simply having the fate points carrying over or making it like the character banners is such a huge step in the right direction while maintaining the gacha part of it (pulls are still needed to take advantage of the guarantee). I do think however that "higher rarity = more generalist" just opens the issue of other future weapons rendered useless. Staff of Homa and Mistsplitter are for the most part, usable on anyone and everyone because only a snippet of their passives are actually "locked" behind few users (Homa's being the

[@luckysgi-5karrow378]

Yep, everything is exacerbated because of the high primogem cost for the weapon banner. If it was much lower, then it would be fine. Characters are 160 gems per wish, perhaps weapons can just be 80 even with fate points not carrying over and pity requiring 2 losses.

[@silverbob4118]

Maaaaan, the redhorn is the best weapon ever man, fits like a glove on Noelle. I will fight on that hill to the end.

[@jsw973]

It's the best weapon ever... for noelle and itto. Best weapon in general tho? I'd say that title goes to something like Homa.

[@silverbob4118]

@@jsw973 oh yeah, I don't have that so I can't vouch. I skipped it for the Redhorn.

[@Mentleif]

If I were to change the weapon system, I’d make Epitomized path more forgiving, like holy heck getting a 5 star weapon is harder than a 5 stat character: Maybe bring down the pointe needed to 1 and/or have unused points carry over to the next banner

[@serencefrostbite3362]

This has been a very well put together video with good point and explanation, but dear traveler, if you think that's bad, in honkai our Valkyrie's signature weapons have a specific passive that only activate when equipped by that specific battlesuit alone

[@cattothething]

Good thing honkai decided to get signature weapons and stigmata pieces at only 10 pulls. There's a lot of off-rates of course, but in most cases, you can get signature pieces easily.

[@annanas9122]

I pulled for Albedo on his rerun because I started playing right before 2.3, so naturally got invested in his character and happened to hit piry (which I didn't even understand the concept of back then) just about at his banner (I did pull on Hu Tao's, but was too late to the party to actually get her; no regrets, though, I have built a full geo team with Albedo since and they're pretty awesome) and having a weapon tailored specifically for him was a nice bonus.

[@ChamChamRealSmooth]

Never thought about it before, but now that you mention it, most weapons being character specific instead of being able to be used by multiple characters is insane.

[@jovelyndungog5366]

It sucks for genshin tbh in honkai every 10 pull gives a 4 star weapon which can be upgraded to 5 stars(honkai 4 stars weapons are equal to genshins 5 star weapons) in honkai you get these character specific weapons per 10 my problem with genshin is that 240 might only fit for a small lineup of characters and its too expensive for a character specific gear

[@applel2.043]

@@jovelyndungog5366 what is equal with 6 star weapon in honkai ?

[@moonday5521]

Even just making it cheaper would make it more accessible, or have the weapons be on the stardust shop, you can eventually get it by trying to roll constellations on the main banner. And yes, having them be more versatile with a way to get more diverse weapons from just playing would also be a great addition, you could even dungeon lock them like they do with artifacts.

[@Flavioelgood]

spot on my dude like always, and that albedo sword case applied to me at least, so i think your opinion makes all the sense. they should really take notes

[@flamestorm31]

Wow dude you just read my mind. I was planning to get albedo since my cinnabar spindle has been collecting dust in my inventory.

[@erenchen8727]

I think it’s gonna be about how banner weapons are generally inflexible for other 5 stars besides the featured banner one

[@erenchen8727]

Or i could just miss the mark entirely

[@onlyme8780]

This was me using Homa on Raiden. It was basically a stat stick because she could never get the full benefit of the passive with Bennett on the team. I pulled for Engulfing Lightning the first chance I got and now just have Homa on Zhongli (I don't want Hu Tao).

[@ZoField]

You dont have to get their signature weapon for the character to be good... You more than likely will pull a decent weapon for the character while pulling for the character... I use many characters without their signature weapon. I will likely not summon for their weapon and i dont feel Im missing out... The only thing i feel is unfair is that you have to fail twice before its 100%... Weapons being best used on a particular character doesnt bother me... no one summons for the weapon and not the character =/, so the weapon fitting the character makes sense to me

[@HyuugaSamurai202]

The problem is that the weapon is so absurdly hard to get that its niche capabilities become an issue. If it had the same likelihood as a character it would be fine; when it takes so much investment to obtain only for it to work in very specific conditions then there’s little excuse.

[@championabovechampions5550]

How tf do you not feel missing out?? Ayaka lets say is completely usless without her signature that gives her a 40% buff. Everyone is saying how good Ayaya is, well she is, when you pay a nice 200$, and get what she needs. Ayaka literally doesn't work without her signature, as i said, she loses 40% overall damage compared to Amenoma which is the only other viable weapone for her, 40% dude, how is that fair. A good example of a useless signature is Yoimiya's sign, it surely is better than any other weapon, however, if you put a r5 rust, you only lose about 3-5% damage, and it's much easier to play without stacks. However, Eula just cannot play without her signature, again losing even more than 50% of her total damage. Now how is that fair to a f2p or a guy who only buys welkin? Those people(including myself) can only barely get 1 5* in 2 months, and it's not even guaranteed that they will get the limited char. And then you are being told, that the character you wanna have and the one you probauble spend all of your primogems on, NEED their signature weapon, and without it loses around 30% to 50% damage lol.

[@drunkduck8073]

@@championabovechampions5550 I wouldn't say characters are useless with out their signature, if they were why would f2p player pull for them if they can't afford their weapon? I am Ayaka main since her first banner and she's currently hitting 20k per dash with her Q and 20-40k dmg on E with inazuma craftable sword and not so good crit dmg. Sure some extra dmg would be nice but she is still my strongest dps and is clearing abyys really fast. I do want her sword tho but I would rather pull for a character 🤷‍♀️ characters are still very usable lol they just won't be on their full potential, not everyone can afford weapons :/

[@championabovechampions5550]

​@@drunkduck8073 20k per ult tick is not achievable at all without mona TTDS and anemo character, and i dont have any of them lol. That's from damage calc with 100/253 crit values: Cutting DMG 23 579 - dps With Mona, Sucrose, TTDS, under every buff possible. Agains an 100lvl enemy. Yeah that is possible with the best team, and i dont have it. And the funniest thing is that without Mona 5* character But with misspliter it's gonna be Cutting DMG 24 498 Even more lol. That's how unfair it is. So even if i dont have a Mona, any anemo, i still would do 24.5k per tick just cuz i have her signature lol. Everyone should be able to achieve character's maximum potential, and it should not be hidden under a literall paywall of 200$ per weapon.(Constellations doesn't matter given it's a gacha game and that mihoyo are a greedy chinese fuckfaces) And if you are ok with being given literall bread crumbs instead of damage just cuz you didn't pay up, well.... go play diablo immortal, a game just for you. Tho im afraid you wont be able to afford it.

[@Goro_Maj1ma]

You're hilariously wrong on just about every single take you made. 🤡

[@iamyukii9307]

"No Bow user that scales off HP" Diana's shield and Ult sitting there staring

[@jadenkochan7424]

There needs to be a lot more weapons added to the game frequently, like every other patch should include some new 3/4 star weapons to use. Also they’re should be a lot more craftable or farmable weapons. Like the fishing mechanic should be more utilized, giving a weapon for each character type would be great, instead of just Polearms

[@roguenightwalker8549]

that fishing idea is great

[@destroreact5706]

Agreed, i always wish for a passive of one weapon to exist of another weapons, like Catch's passive to be on a claymore or a catalyst weapon. Fishing allowing us to get more weapons could mean we get more variants like The Catch

[@JM_Tushe]

I have two *F-ing* Unforged, and man, it could be fine if shields could snapshot, but they don't. I don't have Zhongli. I'm still giving it to Eula though. Should I make it R2 or give the other to Beidou?

[@neo-zamato]

Make it r2 and get zhongli in the future. Unforged is basically WGS but when you have shields. Beidou doesn't really need Unforged despite having a shield as it's not really useful as her shield on burst goes away too quickly. WGS and unforged is the same strength as SOBP overall damage wise if we don't consider the passive. But yea the r2 and zhongli plan are a way to mitigate your problem.

[@gnuhgnauqneyugn]

I don't know about the first guy replying to you, but I myself would never refine a 5-star weapon. It's just not efficient. The only exceptions are either when I can instantly R5 it, or when the passive makes a difference big enough that it greatly enhances a character's capability even at R2 (which is obviously not realistic, especially in this case where the Unforged's passive is mediocre at best).

[@JJdances97]

In terms of refinement, I'd say it honestly depends. If you're only planning on using the weapon on one character and it gets better with refinement, it might be worth it. The only 5☆ I've refined so far is Amos Bow, cause it's not really great on anyone aside from Ganyu tbh so I just went and made it stronger. (Also have Unforged but have yet to use it so I can't say too much there.) Would also say that it may be a good investment in the future to aim for Zhongli, if you'd like him ofc, as he's wonderful for a lot of comps and such, but you shouldn't feel compelled to pull for a character if you don't want em, just piggybacking onto what the first reply said tbh. There's a lot of ways to go about a situation, and it all depends on what you feel is most worth it. All else fails, sometimes I don't even run a shielder and just run a geo character for the crystallise shields tbh, so maybe that could be an option for now (or uhh idk noelle maybe lol).

[@asianjackass237]

Rule of thumb: if the 5 star is either accessible in standard or just plain shite (Atlas, Donut,...) then feel free to refine. If its an universal like Homa and Mist, NEVER REFINE THEM

[@JM_Tushe]

Thank you for your responses!! I got Zhongli. I haven't refined that weapon and the second one is still lvl 1. :S

[@Recentlyisekai89]

Just wondering if you can do a video about genshin world quests also love your videos

[@Ginronmaster1994]

9:40 Imo Amenoma Kageuchi is Ayaka's signature weapon, it looks so much better than her 5* weapon and is used in all of her promotional material.

[@asoret]

Same fits more visually, mistsplitter seems like fake raiden weapon

[@sugarbird2840]

I've literally been struggling with this in my head for a couple months. I've been saving up all my wishes for when Itto rolls around and I really want him and his weapon. But the odds of getting Redhorn are so rough that even though I'd probably spend money if it guaranteed me it without breaking the bank, because that's not the case I'm gonna probably end up settling for Whiteblind, as much as I would like Redhorn

[@jamespolk5955]

Battle pass weapon is really good on him too

[@applel2.043]

white blind and serpent spine is a very good weapon for him. Mihoyo already give you friendly f2p option .Buying redhorn is just supporting mihoyo as a company and nothing else , it is not a must pull.

[@theals9605]

i love the commentary on game design in this vid, but may i ask where you got these numbers from?? the black sword is most definitely not better than haran for ayato and jade for keqing. also the idea that raiden, kazuha, zhongli etc are the more “all purpose” options over xiangling, bennett, and xingqiu is just wrong. i 100% get the idea of what you’re saying, but your evidence definitely don’t line up

[@scifro]

Lady Keqing’s signature weapon is that Moon Chase sword in the standard banner artwork but is yet to be released.

[@Ash-qd2ke]

12:12 holy shit lmaooo. This is me. I was planning on getting Eula, but Cinnabar Spindle was there and it was too good to pass

[@JM_Tushe]

Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers. 😎

[@legoman1798]

i think the main problem with the weapon system is the fact that 95% of the weapons are just stat sticks and cosmetics, most characters signature weapon just increases their dmg by like 20%(from a f2p or low spender weapon) but whats the point of increasing your damage if you already thrash on the most difficult content in the game?In other games weapons can change your playstyle or how you play that character like in tf2 were you have this dude with a long range sniper rifle that you can switch to a bow for a up close gameplay, you don't have that in genshin, Whats the difference between an ayato with his signature weapon and an ayato with a harbringer of dawn? Well the signature weapon ayato deals more dmg yep thats it and i can already clear abyss with a harbringer of dawn ayato why should i bother wasting a character worth of wishes on just more dmg that i don't need?

[@asianjackass237]

Because they can make the aAbyss have corrosion to fuck over HoD users. That and FOMO is how they sell the weapon banner

[@asoret]

Yep guess cosmetic and flexing

[@ChaseAshton1]

i got albedo cause i wanted him tbh but the new weapon they introduced during his last rerun made me seriously consider going for his constellations so i might just do that on his next rerun 😭😭

[@UndeadFemboy]

That’s exactly it. I was lucky enough to get C2 Raiden on her first banner and wanted her weapon on her rerun but I didn’t. Because of that I’m dying for another rerun so I can get the spear

[@nicolrb2210]

I don’t mind there being weapons for specific characters, but i think that for every character-specific weapon there should be a more broad-use weapon like the old ones

[@user-jh6vt8vx4v]

You can board use them. I pull unforge just for Noelle, no I have not bad another claymore user built so far. I was after the 20% shield strength boost. So I can free up 2 artifect for other set bonus (e. g. Damage boost or defence boost)

[@applel2.043]

we already have the broad use 4 star . Do you want power creap or what ?

[@nicolrb2210]

@@applel2.043 i want more options and cool weapon designs

[@applel2.043]

@@nicolrb2210 That is literally power creep .

[@nicolrb2210]

@@applel2.043 did i ask tho?

[@jamesmack9598]

Thanks so much for this video! It came at the perfect time. I've been agonizing over whether or not I should pull for the Redhorn Stonethresher for my Itto. He's my fav. Character and I was lucky enough to get him on his first banner. I'm currently using whiteblind, and was dreaming of his potential with his sig. Weapon. But the 5* system is bs for weapons, and I'd probably just end up with that catalyst instead. I shall continue saving for Kazuha.

[@Axterix13]

Yeah, the weapon banner system sucks. If you're F2P or a limited spender, you really need to save up 200+ wishes, and have a banner that features two five stars you consider worth pulling for, one of which at least you really want.

[@kodi974]

good choice, i’m doing the same thing

[@jamesmack9598]

@@kodi974 Good luck on your pulls!

[@kodi974]

@@jamesmack9598 you too!

[@Azaleaaah]

Only pull for weapon banner if you dont plan to pull for anyone else

[@danielferrieri7434]

When I saw the Thumbnail, I Thought You Would Be Talking about some Genshin's Badly Designed Weapons

[@loola8908]

Bro you're so right. The only reason I decided to get Albedo in his rerun was because Cinnebar Spindle motivated me. It is possible for players to be motivated to pull for a certain character if they are guarenteed to have a good weapon option for then.

[@ngoclam7910]

Thank you for an amazing video and in-depth view points. Personally, at this point of playing GI I don't think I could have say anything anymore. I feels to me that MHY can do way better, just like they did with HI3, but they just chose not to do that.

[@MultiDragonreaper]

10:42 Black sword is not better then Primordial Jade cutter on Keqing. Jade cutter gives 44% crit rate, HP increase, and ATK bonus based on HP which Keqing wants. It makes it easier to build the character if you get screwed over with HP% substats on your artifacts. It was her best in slot before Mistsplitter Reforged came along. Compared to Black sword which isn't even Keqing's best 4 star weapon option, Lions Roar is her best 4 star option and her third best weapon option in general.

[@acekotana4425]

and with the base 5% crit chance, and KQ's second(?) ascenscion talent boosting it by another 15%. You're looking at a free 65% crit rate just for leveling up the weapon and using your burst. But about lion's roar/black sword, afaik (and please do correct me if I'm wrong) LR is only recommended over BS in team comps which consistently keep the passive up like taser.

[@MultiDragonreaper]

@@acekotana4425 on Electro Keqing LR is better because between using taser, electro focused teams, and the low energy cost burst that she can spam you should have no problem keeping up the passive if your using any of these things. Also BS only boosts NA and CA but not the ES and the burst. But black sword is better on physical Keqing.

[@ryuuucha9226]

the 'rare but usable on many units' thing is the exact reason why homa and mistsplitter were so sought after, compared to newer weapons like calamity and haran which mostly just benefit a singular or at most two characters

[@Efgand0894]

You are right, I got the cinnabar but couldn't get albedo during his event. Im waiting his rerun.

[@domb.1522]

Man, i really hope some of the people in-charge of this game watch your videos. If they do, by some miracle, and they implemented all the changes you recommended more people will want to play this game and Vets would have less of a hard time farming and pulling.

[@applel2.043]

it would just be a power creap disaster . If every weapon is all rounded then the game would be even less f2p friendly.

[@schopenhauer5427]

I have to disagree with you on Aqua simulacra, it's an all round universal bow, it's at least 2nd BiS for all dps bow users

[@0ddddd]

9:41 Reminded me of how i missed albedo’s event. It felt like a slap in the face since i’ve been using Harbinger of dawn on him for a long ass time

[@Cilibi]

I spent $100 on the Aqua Simulacra. I got the JWS at soft pity ( I was already there when the banner started). Then I got lucky and got another JWS 9 pulls later. So now I have full fate points, and I spend all the primos I get in the event on the banner. By the time I get around 30 pity I get impatient and spend the 100 to get 40 pulls. It takes getting to soft pity again to get the bow. It’s ridiculous that spending that much money was basically the minimum amount of money required to spend when you get ALMOST lucky