The Problem With Modern Racing Games

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Hey guys, this video is one I have been working hard on for quite a while now. It showcases my feelings on the racing game industry and the differences compared to previous games that we all look on so highly. If you enjoy this longer style commentary videos please leave a like and a comment letting me know so. Thanks for watching :)
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:52 A Good Story With Horizon 1
4:37 A Poor Story With Horizon 4
9:00 Innovation In Racing Games With TDU2
13:40 Money In The Gaming Industry

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Before commenting, please watch my "responding to viewers critiques" response to this video. I go over “racing games don’t need a story”, “horizon 4 is a sandbox” “why didn’t you mention The Crew 2?” And my revised stance on engine sounds in Horizon 4 among others kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4fQnWaQqb2Blck

[@REMOV28]

the main problem is developers dont care about single player anymore. They assume everyone just goes straight to multiplayer racing.

[@olivierrodriguesneto5995]

This makes me really worried that TDU Solar Crown can be a online only game

[@neelnag627]

Yeah, and for console players who can’t afford the absurd monthly prices to go live, it really sucks

[@neelnag627]

@@GHSTSTRSCRM my bad, but you still have to pay a hell of a lot of cash to go online

[@HookupCultureCommunity]

I like it when games actually turn the steering wheel all the way in the first person cam. The only game I can think of off the top of my head that does this is DriveClub. It’s thrilling to actually see the attention to detail and the driver violently countersteer and turn one hand over the other. Feels more visceral and realistic

[@lumiapowered8463]

Even then, there are so many issues: specifically in Forza Horizon, after FH1 they removed public matchmaking for custom games

[@shredd5705]

Forza Horizon 4 is technically amazing, but it feels like it's designed for kids. The way the characters talk to you etc... Also you get Ferraris etc. way too easily (from wheel of fortune) so they don't feel meaningful like in TDU2 where you had to collect money, drive into the store etc.. Hope TDU Solar Crown is more sim and for adults

[@ultraviolet_channel]

I 100% agree, let’s hope for a realistic TDU

[@plottwist1733]

The problem with FH4 is the dev team. They simply don't know what they're doing and as long as they're the ones making them, I won't be buying any future Horizon games. I wish they'd bring back the dev team that worked on the original Forza Horizon, but that's probably not going to happen. I wish game studios would focus more on making solid remakes of older games rather than releasing lackluster new games. Imagine a Midnight Club 3 remake. That'd be epic.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

It’s not the dev teams fault, all they do is develop the game. It’s the game leads/game directors. They choose what content is in the game which the devs don’t really have a say in

[@kristjan1757]

FH4 just shit is . Atomic Punk, FORD ROASTER run and win every kind of terrain, wet, sand, asphalt, ice, snow . It 's so ridiculous....a game for under 12 of mentality

[@alekslevchenko5035]

Totally agree. FH4 feels soulless like a manufacture. You can’t feel any satisfaction when you getting a new car, because you keep getting them every 30min or so.

[@Lucky_9705]

Forza Horizon 1 is still an incredible looking game, even nearly a decade later. This game pushed the Xbox 360 to its absolute limits.

[@lumiapowered8463]

Yeah, it and FM4 still hold up really well today: on the PS3 side, GT5 (GT6 sacrificed some graphics for better performance) also looks stunning still...when not looking at Standard cars

[@hayik]

yeah i remember my 360 crashing like 3 times every hour😂😂😂

[@infiniteblaz3416]

I still can’t believe that game is almost 10 years old. Holy shit.

[@samusaran7317]

@@hayik Probably dusty as hell. Mine rarely crashed

[@hayik]

@@samusaran7317 probably yeah i never cleaned a console or pc in my life😂

[@k.r.99]

What i loved in TDU1, was that you could rent cars for limited time and test them or use them for races without having to buy them 👍

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Yeah, that was great. Really gave you the chance to decide if you wanted it or not

[@MuscleCarLover]

I also liked that you really had to rent a car before you got your first car and house

[@TrashPandaPirate]

I never got to play tdu1 but that’s an awesome feature

[@liberty1293]

@@juniorthehipster Test Drive Unlimited

[@henrik1743]

same thing in midnight club la!! I *LOVED* THAT

[@lumiapowered8463]

A lot of people forget the first 5 NFS games, especially High Stakes and Porsche Unleashed: Every single one of these, even The Need For Speed in 1994, had cockpit view, real-world performance data & history for the car manufacturers, a 3D view of the real car's interior, and a roster with all kinds of cars: Not just tuners and supercars, but some contemporary muscle cars, concept cars, Australian muscle, luxury cars and such. NFS II+ added performance fine-tuning and night racing, III Hot Pursuit and High stakes allowed playing as police + added weather conditions + FREE DLC + OFFICIAL MOD TOOLS, and High Stakes added damage, 3D interiors for cockpit, animated drivers, upgrade parts and visual upgrades! It's a damn shame most people ignore these games simply because they came before Underground.

[@mergame6295]

I remember when horizon 3 came out and I started to question why I was racing because you could come last in every race and still progress through the campaign.

[@timwra]

Forza Horizon 3 has a campaign?

[@benn8793]

Forza Horizon 3 was the last Horizon where I had hardly anything to complain about. But by then it was already starting to get boring.

[@Adam63545]

Horizon 3 was the last good horizon. The last one which there were no cringey emotes, no stupid battle royale, no festival playlist. It was just about the cars and the racing

[@ultraviolet_channel]

One hundred thousand views. Absolutely speechless. When I uploaded this video I had 800 subscribers and was getting 200-300 views a video. So for one of my silly little videos to hit 100 thousand is just insane. Thank you all so much for everything. Heres to even better videos in the future!

[@Alphabet7]

This just shows how many people feel the exact same way as you #MakeForzaGreatAgain

[@xxrobloxplayerxx5410]

The video is so true. Also do you by chance remember "motor storm pacific rift"?

[@ultraviolet_channel]

@@xxrobloxplayerxx5410 no unfortunately not

[@Alphabet7]

@@xxrobloxplayerxx5410 omgggg

[@Alphabet7]

@@xxrobloxplayerxx5410 broooo motorstorm omg I loved thag

[@demon-x3250]

tdu2 was one of those games to me that despite being 30+ hours into the game and not even being close to completing it, i never got bored, it had so much attention to detail and especially with the open world that even i had to slow down to like cruising speed, obeying traffic laws cuz the police actually react to certain violations, indicate turn signals, opening the roof while driving, customizing your character and just the amount of stuff that game had. The view despite the graphics not being too great was still amazing to me at the time and the music. the devs really made you feel that you are in control, you earn what you earn, everything just blended well for being a rags to riches type of progression almost

[@WickedParanoid]

If only the opponents' AI wasn't dumber than bricks... Oh, and while I'm at describing the cons, SCREW. THOSE. TRAINING. COURSES. TO. HELL. Especially the one with Mercedes CLK, what a pain in the ass that one was.

[@Defiance-id8vm]

@@WickedParanoid the courses were awful like omg i spent so many hours on them sometimes. also the graphics still arent good but they get much better when u can play in 4k or 1440 i bet. the games actual design can b seen and idk how to explain it really. it looks bad but its much better. hopefully the new one is good and i really hope the dealers r not mostly empty like some of them were. European classics was like 3 cars wasnt it? and the bikes too

[@TRX25EX]

This game need VR so bad!!!

[@jamiemb17]

The police didn't do anything unless you crashed into them, lol. I hope they make them realistic for TDU:SC, or at least give you that option.

[@shun0825]

tdu2 is a fun game even without going on a race specially for a person like me who never been to Hawaii they say that tdu2 hawaii map is like 70% to 80% accurate

[@swagwanpiffting8796]

i wish playground games would listen to us instead of shoving new cars into our faces

[@kingdavid5158]

I guess this might probably be their way to keep ignoring the elephant in the room. Definitely hate it.

[@Ronit34]

New cars also suck dude most of good car come in winter and most of time the car we get are worst better not give cars that we will only use for 1 time only

[@Arthurblacklungmorgan1899]

yall not car guys then I dont mind unless I can make it look like a car from F&F

[@r.s.customz1502]

We need to stop buying there games. It’s the only way to give them a wake up call to start making better games again.

[@espionagebob4572]

not to mention they copy and paste the car sounds for the new cars, and they sound like dogshit

[@LiveWire276]

Midnight Club 3. Good memories man I love another MC-style game with multiple maps and customization and bikes

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Midnight club is amazing

[@ultraviolet_channel]

@N P House real big!

[@sevenkaylive]

As the great Whitelight said, racing games are like umm... horn, they dont need story but a good story elevated it massively.

[@Thegamingrobot1358]

Three modes of “difficulty” : arcade, casual and reality check.

[@Defiance-id8vm]

does the ammount of money go up if u chose reality check? this is perfect as long as ur not rewarded for less difficulty

[@Thegamingrobot1358]

@@Defiance-id8vm reality check being the hardest difficulty it would give more xp but less money making the focus be more on tuning your current car rather than buying a new one, buying new cars would be similar but not the same as RL prices hopefully giving a feeling of satisfaction when you finally get to buy a new car. But this is all theory at the moment.

[@tbhousen]

4*: arcade, casual, reality check, then Dirt Rally 2.0

[@Defiance-id8vm]

Ok so ur saying like if u play on easy u can get the money to buy the cars but u really will need to play on realism in order to unlock the upgrades for the cars? If I made a game I would let u make the ai easier only in the beginning of the game for practice and u wouldn’t make anything on those races. I hate when people r rewarded for doing nothing

[@weonvirtual]

This is exactly what the racing games community need, constructive criticism about the genre, supporting these type of videos, so that we, as a whole, can improve in such things. Keep up with the good content

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Thanks dude!

[@shira_yone]

I honestly came in expecting a more objective and of course constructive criticism, but (no offense) I cannot say that I got much of that from this video. I don't dislike the video, but it's not what I'm looking for. Car sounds are like the last thing I would complain about in modern racing games when the majority of them have superior sounds compared to older racing games in general (although my standard spans through a wider timespan into the 90's, where car sounds like hand dryers). Story in racing games aren't really necessary either. If I were to complain about modern racing games, it'll be the *progression.* Modern racing games either fall into 2 camps: 1. Literally no progression whatsoever and you just get stuff immediately without earning it, and 2. A grindfest to sell in-game currency (even worse if it got RNG upgrade system). People loved Gran Turismo because you start with some Toyota Vitz and end up in a Toyota GT ONE, most modern racing games doesn't really have this anymore.

[@weonvirtual]

@@shira_yone yeah the progression needs to be improved by a lot. Not only that, the innovation also needs to be improved. Back then a lot of franchises stood up because of their innovation and how fun they were, that's why the golden era of NFS, the first Forzas, Gran Turismos, Grid, or Burnout were very successful videogames at the time

[@ultraviolet_channel]

@@shira_yone I feel like I mentioned progression in this video but I guess I didn’t. That’s my main problem with Forza horizon games is they throw money and super ads at you like it’s Halloween candy!

[@shira_yone]

@@ultraviolet_channel yeah you did touched on that a bit, but mostly from the context of it being a consequence FH4's lack of story rather than from a gameplay mechanic/loop perspective. Wish you good luck and make even better vids my man (maybe even a follow up to this one).

[@D33PLOV3]

I told my mom I wanted chicken nuggets for dinner and she gave me pizza

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Top 10 anime plot twists

[@sierrasymone7590]

Still doesn't explain why the seahawks threw the ball on the 1 yd line

[@colbysteffens2976]

LOL

[@HOTPLATEGAMING]

@@sierrasymone7590 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Alphabet7]

Pizza is better

[@ItzzzBeamo]

I definitely have issues with the new “its a sandbox! Go play theres nothing you really *need* to do anyway!”

[@epicdude3659]

the only time that statement is fine is if the game is an actual sandbox game, like Minecraft, or Space Engineers, those types of games. not flipping racing games.

[@ItzzzBeamo]

@@epicdude3659 agreed. People get bored quickly when there isn't at least a semi-clear path of direction.

[@BombayBerke]

I’m weird and actually prefer that. I wanna go out and do things my way. I felt restricted in the other Horizon titles, because almost every race served some arbitrary goal that didn’t really do much. Leveling up various festival sites in 3 seemed pointless, as you never really got to explore the festival sites, and the only thing leveling them up did was unlock more races. I really enjoyed it, but I definitely enjoy the open ended freedom 4 gave me to just let me do what I wanted. I’m having as much fun with Horizon 4 now, that I did when I started at launch.

[@Spherz]

PGR 3 Had a very similar feature to TDU2. You could buy car lots to store your cars, walk around them, move cars around the garage, and there was even a secret arcade game in each garage. There were also secret concept cars locked behind Kudos rewards so you actually had a purpose to race and unlock it. Additionally it had the test drive feature

[@Spherz]

@N P I still play it all the time because of the track creator and the unique cars it has. I wish there was a way to rip some models from the game for other uses though since there’s some pretty rare cars

[@lumiapowered8463]

@N P PGR in general had a lot of rare and exclusive cars, it's unfortunate that most were only in them or 1-2 other games. A note is that the Callaway C12 did feature in Gran Turismo 4-6 as well, can't speak for other games though

[@ultraviolet_channel]

So. Let me clarify some things here. This video is a rant, and these are all my SUBJECTIVE opinions, I whole heartedly respect if you feel differently than me. so don’t take this to heart as it’s me getting a lot of my feelings out about something I’m very passionate about. Alot of people are getting the vibe I hate Horizon 4. I really don’t. It’s an amazing game it’s just in my opinion not as good as some previous entries. If you love Horizon 4, AWESOME. I don’t want to make it seem like you shouldn’t like the game as it’s still amazing

[@ultraviolet_channel]

And when it comes to engine sounds, my critique is a little unfair I do admit, but it’s more of a wish for the future than anything. I hope this all makes sense

[@nynphierno9112]

I can probably say, that im part of the FH4 community, that plays the game at the highest competitive level. I think almost everyone of us would agree with all your points, the game is fully focused on multiplayer and it has no soul. Even the multiplayer is trash now, because of the server issues. Just like you said, we will forget about it once FH5 comes out. Edit: To adress the engine sounds, previous games had better sounds than FH4, some of the sounds are even kept in the game files. Your critique is fully justified, the devs are just lazy imo.

[@lohostege]

@@ultraviolet_channel I do hate FH4 engine sounds, but that's the only thing I have about the game. Especially coming from TC2, which has rather really good sounds.

[@-the_stranger--i1288]

@@ultraviolet_channel you're right!!!! the only car have passion in this game with real engine sound is "Lexus lfa" in fh4 because the top Director in playgrounds studio love it!!.....but for the other cars he didn't care about them even the cars doesn't have idle engine sounds!!!!!! when u stop the car u hear nothing like it's electric car!!!! there is no soul in the cars.

[@paulclynes9865]

Couldn't agree more, great game but at the same time I've never known another game make me sigh as much as FH4. If they carry on the direction 4 has took then they may as well remove the Horizon in the franchise's name, the Horizon festival itself has so little meaning in FH4 it may as well not be there at all. Opting for a live service model never results in a top quality game either.

[@tacobell393]

I think the term we are looking for here is PERSONALITY. Older games had creative ideas and went with it. Devs took risks, now it more about playing it safe for the sake of the bottom line. Burnout 3 and NFS Most Wanted (2005) had personality and probably wouldn't be made nowadays.

[@joshuaholman7760]

It seems that with the absolute mainstreaming of video games for the masses, has in fact began to ruin the very thing that used to make video games fun. Video games 10-15 years ago were popular and in the mainstream yes, but they weren't made to appeal to every single person on the planet like they are now. They seemed to play to their specific audience and to deliver the best game for said demographic, not water down said genre in order to pull in outsiders above their fan base.

[@lumiapowered8463]

Another large factor is the exponential growth of development costs for AAA games: Think about how much more resources games need now due to significantly better graphics, sound and the expectations for open worlds in the vast majority of them: this is what truly killed off most racing games and discouraged innovation. Hopefully, the rise of indie games compensates in the future

[@lumiapowered8463]

@@joshuaholman7760 This also has been a huge problem, as to appeal to these people difficulty usually can't be very high, open world is very desirable and they generally don't want anything unusual

[@builderwack4459]

Making games with risks like that are a gamble, they don't take them because as demand rises the risks rise as well.. If they make a horrible game due to a risk gone wrong, the losses they suffer are massive and it's worse for newer companies or indie game developers

[@roviH]

I definitely miss the boss characters from Horizon 1. It tied in so well to the design philosophy of working your way up the ladder, and I really think this sense of direction given to the player really helped make the experience great. It also reminded me quite a bit of Most Wanted 2005 or Midnight Club 2. I really hope Horizon 5 takes more cues from the first game, especially regarding the atmosphere (I miss the music festival aspect) but I highly doubt it will.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

I miss the bosses sooo much

[@sahandbabaie]

It was cool because we never really experienced boss in that form before ( and sadly after) FH1, like in a racing game, there is no enemy or attacking, so it's not like you can hit another car multiple times and win the level, it was such a perfect innovation and it stood so distant from NFS(which was the other open world racing game). It gave a new definitions and fields that had never been looked at in games from that lens. Now it's just missing the content.

[@roviH]

@@sahandbabaie I don't know about that, man. The concept of a "boss" type character being in a racing game wasn't a new idea-it's just that at the time Horizon 1 came out, racing games in general were already moving away from that type of gameplay element. It was one of the few games to still have it, while also having a great aesthetic, great gameplay, and high production value. In more recent times, boss characters have been making a return in other franchises like NFS. Like in Heat for example. It's ironic how Horizon 1 kept that tradition alive, but then let it die in its sequels; while Horizon's competition became the ones bringing the concept back to the forefront. The examples I gave in my old comment are two older games (from 2005 and 2003 respectively) that heavily featured "boss" type characters, while being arcade racing games.

[@MegaAgamon]

I miss when racing games had an actual story in them. Remember Need for Speed Carbon? Popular anime like Initial D and Wangan Midnight prove that you can excellent racing media with a good story to tell.

[@1994savvas]

Carbon was probably my fanorite NFS. Everyone chooses Underground 2 or the original Most Wanted, but for me Carbon was the one I felt I was the story. The atmosphere, the intimate racing at the mountains, the modern cars (rx8 for example), the bosses, and the concepts with teammates. Everything was unique in that game. Objectively, Most Wanted is a masterpiece and has a very solid story and characters, but with Carbon something clicked inside me.

[@Luna-Starfrost]

I think Carbon as well as the other old NFS's, altho being my favorite Need for Speed of all time (to me even better than Most Wanted) is a perfect example for "Never meet your childhood heroes". When playing those games today, the characters and story just give pure cringe attacks. When taking it for a cheesy, corny action story it's absolutely fine but when looking at Razor in a serious attempt it just makes me giggle how the acting and all was. Still great games tho. Carbons main menu theme still gives me chills. Chills as in it sounds kinda scary and gloomy, don't know why.

[@sehhmie5483]

Tbh the story of wangan pretty meh and initial d after stage 3 is just full of plot armor (except when they do it with ryosuke in stage 5) Driver has a pretty good story for a racing game

[@MegaAgamon]

@@sehhmie5483 I disagree. Personally I found the stories of Wangan Midnight and Initial D good and enjoyable.

[@Jay_Digital]

I hated that game. Never liked those F&F rip off stories. I used to love the ps1 Test drive, nfs & Gran Turismos. Just straight forward racing. None of that goofy cut scene non sense.

[@PedzRR]

I think Driveclub was a damn good game too. I know a lot of people weren't fans of its driving, but for me it struck the perfect balance between a simple arcade feel and a challenging adrenaline rush

[@markisaki979]

Glad someone mentioned Driveclub. It struck the perfect balance between catering for the masses and for the hardcore fans.

[@MrRohanThomas]

I could not believe how good the graphics were back then, no racing game is close to it and I still think it's one of the best

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Thank you everyone for all of the attention this video is getting, I can’t even keep up with all of the comments so if I miss yours it’s not on purpose. I’m trying to respond to as many as possible, thank you guys!

[@mateuszpaszkiewicz3831]

I have Forza Horizon 4 and really like it. I kinda wish Playground Games was more aware of the issues in the game.

[@yenkocamaro6965]

Forza Horizon 4 is up there as a top 5 racing game for me. The issues really keep the game from being one of the best racing games ever, sadly

[@lumiapowered8463]

It's funny, that a lot of them weren't issues in older titles: It is frustrating that certain aspects such as multiplayer lobbies, public custom games, map design became worse over time or became missing

[@paulclynes9865]

Oh they are aware of them, but more new cars gets them more credit from your average player than fixing servers, a broken points system or banning cheats. Great game but at the same time it does not care 1 bit about those who have a proper interest in cars + racing, most of it is more for the type of person who says the Veyron is their favourite car in the world.

[@fraxomfire6657]

The "get what you get" aspect of older racing games is really what made beating the game worth while, sure it might discourage people from playing because it's hard but you cant sacrifice the depth of the entire game just to suit the needs of every passing player. The long lasting players will always be around to play the newest releases, and companies just don't think capitalizing on the dedicated fanbase is profitable.

[@jchubyt]

“You need to work in TDU2 for cars” Me: Used Dealership Glitch

[@MarbleFox162]

Wait, there was a dealership glitch!?

[@jchubyt]

@@MarbleFox162 In the used dealership, you have to find the most expensive car with a tuning level above 0. After you buy said car, you go straight back into the used dealer and sell the car to the used dealer for a profit. Repeat this and you can probably make your first million.

[@MarbleFox162]

@@jchubyt I wish I knew this 10 years ago.

[@nickygonzalez2276]

They prioritize , story, sound over " dabbing emojis" and hoodies for your character. End of discussion

[@WickedParanoid]

Hoo boy, this one. I cringed mightily when I saw this trash in ISuckAtDriving's Forza (or should I call it ForzNite now?) video. Really shows the target audience for these modern trash games.

[@asplmn]

IMAGINE: The first FH5 expansion is one where the player can go to a private island of high stakes. One where you race for pinks on crazy courses. Basically, a location designated for those looking for a hardcore experience. High stakes, and high rewards with its own community based hierarchy... Maybe even little cliques are formed and have turf wars lol. Could be so many neat things you could do with that. It'd make players appreciate their cars and money that much more.

[@haaxxx9]

Need for Speed: High steaks style of gameplay? Perfect setting for an inflated economy that is very generous of you getting money and cars! And make sure you can wagers bets in cash to see who wins too!

[@Fuakh]

Dream driving game. Forza Horizon 2 Physics, crew 2 map. TDU 2 innovations, some Mirrors Edge freeruning for out of vehicle exploration and a Forza Horizon 1 Story structure. Also when i first started up Forza Horizon 4 i was immediately awarded the Koenigsegg One 1 and Koenigsegg Regera, completely destroying all progression before even playing the game.

[@rw2750]

The forza horizon 2 map was amazing

[@rafaelceottomusic6918]

Horizon 1 is one of the best of the franchise with a PURPOSE. Horizon 2 has a kinda confusing map but an amazing intro with a nice music which connects you to the car. After 2015 everything changed...

[@akkingdom3502]

I was born in 2001 I really loved the time I played NFS ug2 Mw2005 NFS undercover,tdu2 Tdu2 is ma fav racing game

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Same here, I’m an 01 kid and grew up with the same games

[@akkingdom3502]

@@ultraviolet_channel life was good back then

[@racingraptor4758]

@@ultraviolet_channel hehe, so I'm in club too! ;)

[@asplmn]

I honestly loved NFS Underground so much. I really enjoyed NFS UG2 as well, but there was just something about the first one...

[@thisemptyworm4677]

Here are the games I love then and now: NFS shift 1 & 2, grid 2008, Blur, split second, motorstorm, Flatout, gran turismo 5, project Gotham racing, forza Horizon 1... yoU can see where I’m going with this

[@SadielHrz]

Hey where is burnout you had to type that and yeah split second is cool i played had a fine time during its era

[@thisemptyworm4677]

@@SadielHrz so many games I forgot some

[@iwannaseethereceipts]

Need For Speed: Underground 2 is an unmatched street racing RPG to this day. My favorite and I've yet to play anything that will scratch that same itch

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

TDU has had this ethos since 2006 and that's just 1 of the reasons why I loved it so much. I just commented on another video related to the original TDU and that was the abstract fact that I, to this day remember those hours as a reality I lived in and not just played. That too for a 2006 game! (we might just be in a simulation after all eh?)

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Haha gotta love TDU

[@nicholaswildethethird]

Ok, now i understand why i had that weird feeling about FH4 being kind of empty.

[@VanquishSpeed]

As much as i enjoyed Horizon 4, I always come back to the same question everytime, "why does Horizon 4 feel so lifeless and limited compared to older Racing Games?" And it still sucks, that newer racing games will never be like the older racing games. Games like NFS Carbon, where you fight against every Clan which is based on the main story itself, or Most Wanted list in NFS MW '05, where you have to climb your way up the beat the No. 1 blacklist through races, challenges, speed traps and etc. Game Companies and Publishers these days just doesn't want to take risk anymore. They think by shoving a lot of cars on our faces will gain more money for them, a lot of variety of cars is great and all, but where's the fun and true innovation? Remember the days when we have a lot of racing games which that doesn't need licensed Cars? Games like Burnout, Split Second and etc. they just let their creativity out without worrying too much about expired license deals. Or maybe Blur, a fun arcade-combat racing. Is just sad. But i only have a little of hope for racing games this 2021, and i doubt it would make any difference, we'll just have to wait and see :(

[@ultraviolet_channel]

It is sad, but I still have high hopes for games such as Horizon 5. Stay positive!

[@darknova1552]

@@ultraviolet_channel Horizon 5 will not save the racing franchise.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

@@darknova1552 can you explain how? Because I can and have explained why I think it will

[@lohostege]

My child hood racing games where NFS:MW, The Crew, Asphalt Xtreme. I now have FH4, TC2

[@damaier4797]

You're born in 2007 right ?

[@KyushaNeverKnowsBest]

were you old enough to know how to play those games while still being a child for 11 years between the launch of nfs mw and asphalt xtreme?

[@lohostege]

2006

[@christianmogildea4963]

@@KyushaNeverKnowsBest he's talking about criterion's most wanted.

[@KyushaNeverKnowsBest]

@@christianmogildea4963 oh ok

[@whitetiger-7752]

Companies think graphics is what we love but they forgot that a good story makes a gamer happy

[@SteveBrandon]

I don't particularly care about characters in racing games, I just want racing games where the main focus is on the offline single player career mode as well as the return of pure AAA arcade racers like OutRun and Midnight Club plus simcade series like Project Gotham Racing.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Singleplayer is king, man PGR was such a great series. Loved those games

[@Miltypooh2001]

Midnight club 3 dub edition remix was my favorite in terms of customization and goes straight to the point instead of having a deep story

[@Vortex_ICEcold]

I just want a damn game that doesn’t have AI speeding through corners ignoring laws of physics

[@SteveBrandon]

@@Vortex_ICEcold I suppose that was a problem with the AI in TDU/TDU2? Honestly, I don't remember how the AI behaved in TDU off the top of my head since most of my memories of playing three semi-different TDU games (I'm including the PS2 version of TDU as a somewhat distinct game from the XBox 360 version since many of the races and missions were unique to the PS2 version) were just driving around the islands exploring, with the actual racing being secondary.

[@Vortex_ICEcold]

@@SteveBrandon it’s mind boggling. As someone who drives fast in real life and then I see this shit in game. I try to mimic their brake timings and speeds through corners and I just spin out. I play with controller and turn all assists off in simulator games. The only way to beat these AI is through faulty programming. They are programmed to slow down in some corners more than they should. It’s so unrewarding knowing that the only way to beat these AI is through shitty programming and not raw skill. It’s sad and this is where racing sims are at today.

[@dylanwakley2553]

Put so many hours into TDU2 and that was after the online went down for good, was all just single player, such a good game, and it felt so good to get your first proper super car, like you actually had to work for the cars, and drive to the dealership, walk round it, choose your exact spec and then drive it away. The immersion the devs created was just glorious, playing that game for a few hours really makes you feel like you’re on holiday

[@86Hasse]

Well said, MO! Graphics and quantity isn't everything. Quality and well-crafted gameplay is the way to go!

[@murcielago481]

I couldn’t care less about graphics if you want that look at real life

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Thank you!

[@kak8895]

@@murcielago481 You're high. No matter how good the game play is no one is going to accept it if the graphics are trash especially when there's capable hardware to run them at the best they can. That'd be pulling us backwards

[@ultraviolet_channel]

@@kak8895 every heard of an opinion? Murcielago clearly said that was their opinion. You have a right to your own opinion of course but no reason to get salty over someone else’s opinion

[@kak8895]

@@ultraviolet_channel lol. My bad maybe I went to hard. I acknowledge his opinion

[@Fabian-mr3ht]

some elements from tdu2 are actually in the crew 2 like the features from the dealership because some of the developers that worked on tdu2 are now in ivory tower

[@jacobbrianbeats562]

THANK YOU dude for making this video everyone share it so when a developer sees it they realize what racing games are about

[@alarictheredboi276yearsago4]

I’ve played every horizon game, and the first ones progression and campaign and characters are absolutely untouched. One of my favorite random details in horizon 1 is that whenever you did official horizon races your character would wear racing gloves and a helmet, but wouldn’t wear them in free roam.

[@jesseseymour4011]

Gran turismo 7 looks like its going to be a return to form, can't wait. Ps5 comes in the mail today woot woot

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Congrats on the PS5!

[@lumiapowered8463]

I do hope so, I don't own a PS4 or 5 but I have owned all main games 1-6 + Tourist Trophy and when I heard about the new direction Sport took, really put me off... I understood why they did it, to avoid the GT5/6 problem of copying and pasting last gen 3d models, textures and sounds into a game made a console generation after those models, but the pretty much online-only experience disappointed me incredibly as I played GT for the SP and wide, zany car list full of unique nuggets

[@slinkygreyhound6994]

Who asked and who cares? Like my series x is coming in a few days but I’m not asking for attention...

[@ultraviolet_channel]

@@slinkygreyhound6994 just let people be happy? Not hard to do

[@slinkygreyhound6994]

@@ultraviolet_channel did I ask for your sad opinion? Ur only saying this to make ur channel look good and I was never speaking to u in the first place... I was enjoying ur content but not now 💀

[@Alexander-dn4rw]

Probably one of the most innovative racing games I remember was Driver: San Francisco. I've never owned it, but I remember being younger and watching playthroughs on KZbin all the time. There's videos out there that describe it better than I could, but dang was it different

[@shaunkollamparampil1710]

I played that game on my uncle's laptop it was fun and it was almost like a horror game. But I enjoyed it.

[@tobydavis1370]

It just feels like any racing game is just left in the dust as soon as a new title comes out, obviously there's massive hype around FH5, and like you said in even a year, no one will be playing FH4 and will just be forgotten. Great video BTW

[@tgipro6387]

The problem with modern racing games is the gameplay doesn’t feel different between games anymore back then every game had a different vibe gameplay design and atmosphere that is obvious the moment the main menu pops up what the hell happened to days of midnight club ridge racer or Tokyo extreme racer honestly forza horizon 1 was the last good forza game that decided to go a different route and did it wonderfully

[@quitspoem8651]

Don't forget about Ridge Racer Type 4; especially with the games story being based around the manufacturer you choose

[@nickofzo]

Welcome to the Real Racing Roots grand prix in.... Helter Skelter. 3..2..1 here we go, It's showtime. 3 laps to go. Okay it's final lap, you're cool! My grandma drives faster! Get with the program.

[@MrAnimeWolf]

I always liked picking the American racing team and making the game like an underdog story since they didn't have much funding and couldn't afford to buy you better cars to race and could only afford a slight performance upgrade to the starting car

[@observantmonkey4055]

man hearing the music from the home in tdu mmm i would literally go to my homes just to hear that.

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

hell yeah bro! I loved that too!

[@s.r.5462]

Your point about racing got you into video games resonated so much with me. These games were my first games on console! Thanks for the video

[@ultraviolet_channel]

You are very welcome! Thanks for watching

[@nobedz6688]

Finally!!!! Someone understands what makes the OG Forza Horizon was so damn good! It's simply a great game with great gameplay released in a dark age of racing games. Kids nowadays prefered the Horizon 4 simply because it has so many cars and huge map with lot of DLCs, but the game feels bland and boring especially when your starter car were already Audi TTS and Ford Focus RS. Even i wouldn't called the Charger as a starter car. Though the game was a huge improvement from the Horizon 3 which i think it's the 2nd worst Forza game i've ever played.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Horizon 1 is amazing!

[@Wheresthepepsibismol]

Yeah Forza Horizon 1 was epic I remember the Ford GT1X too bad it hasn't appeared in any other racing game since.

[@sleepdeep305]

Hm, played every entry in the series and I definitely don't think that H3 is the 2nd worst in the series. Although, what do you mean that Horizon 1 released in a dark age of racing games? It's practically everybody's favorite era nowadays...

[@adlibbed2138]

@@sleepdeep305 well I mean it was released at the same year of Most Wanted 2012, which set the NFS community on sea of flames due to being a far cry of what the sequel of Most Wanted 2005 we're supposed to be

[@undueeeken2939]

The dlcs in fh3 are FAR more better than the ones in fh4

[@romiarkan450]

I really want TDU solar crown to come with the option to buy aftermarket wheels and body kits and such. There's no shortage of aftermarket manufacturers for people who can spend money with reckless abandon in real life like ABT, Mansory, Brabus, Vorsteiner, and such. Adding those things would set TDU right into the market, even though most of those items portray zero sense of taste that you might wanna test yourself for Covid if you install them to your six-figure cars.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Totally agree

[@ras4782]

I think turn 10 is making the game and if so i dont think they would want forza to have too much competition

[@dandrelowery3714]

Except, car manufacturers are very stingy when it comes to advertisements

[@viennasupercars]

Very good and informative video, I share your opinion completely. TDU 1+2 made my childhood, no other game had such a Charme like tdu2. Using the Blinkers, speccing the car with oem colors and wheels, opening the roof of a cabriolet and visiting the Casino and playing poker with your friends. Good old days and memories. Hopes are high for TDSC, let's hope for the best. Subscribed 💪🏻

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Thank you!

[@killermario8458]

Brother you just spoke out what I had in mind for years, there is little to no purpose in playing current racing games now.

[@thefolkteal6631]

In TDU2, I also loved having to find "wrecked cars" all over the map as an additional way to earn vehicles. It also incentivized exploration off-road.

[@ItzMo_895]

This is an interesting video and a lot of great points that you’ve mentioned.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Thanks!

[@TKD_Bones]

I feel that we're starting to go through a cycle with racing games. First, they start with the vision and make a prototype due to the current technology limitations. Through time as technology improves, they work on the pure mechanics such as graphics and handling of cars. This is where we are and it almost seems like developers are selling their progress by not actually progressing with the original vision but rather building a foundation. Last is the complete vision of where that great story that they once told now followed up with the best graphics and handling they can offer. Developers will have no limits to their imagination and we'll have some solid racing games. No idea how long that'll take but its fun to wonder.

[@wiredupretro]

Enjoyed the presentation :) Keep up the good work!

[@xFascinationZx]

For a Horizon 1 was so perfect. From the music to the Vibe, the way the map was crafted.... I’m speechless

[@stephenmaxwellfuks3484]

I feel like another great example of a drop off is the crew 1 vs the crew 2, I don't even need to explain. I feel like on modern game that handles itself relatively well, except that grinding reputation isn't too hard is NFS heat, it's just fun.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

I agree, the Crew 2 went in a strange direction

[@yar2000]

I dislike both of the "The Crew" games because their physics are based on framerate, resulting in a 60-fps lock which is unplayable to most people who are used to a higher refresh rate (like myself). This problem will probably slowly but surely disappear now that consoles have *finally* caught up and offer 120hz options, but it will still take some time. While it was not great to play at 60fps, The Crew (1) was good enough to play through despite being fps-capped. The crew 2 on the other hand... Played an hour, never touched it again. Absolutely hated everything about it.

[@tankiller9638]

I agree dont get me wrong Heat had its issues and frankly still does due to it basically not being supported due to EA pulling the license from Ghost Games, but it's obvious the game was a love letter to car culture then and now really hope Criterian keeps the same direction Ghost Games was going in cause while they never fulfilled on a game perfectly they did have the right idea just not the team size to make it happen.

[@tim3172]

@@yar2000 How dare they not spend millions extra on development for the extra *checks notes* 8% of people running monitors >60Hz on PC.

[@yar2000]

@@tim3172 Its not even about spending money mate. If they didn’t build/use an engine that had physics bound to framerate it would’ve been perfect and it wouldn’t have cost them a penny more. Also about that stat, I can confidently tell you that the target audience of the crew on PC has a higher percentage than 8% in terms of high refresh rate monitors. The game is harder to run in the first place so people who use a macbook to play CSGO should already be excluded from their target audience since they’d never be able to run it anyway.

[@mikhailabdula5256]

how do you only have 935 subscribers??? 🙌🏽🙌🏽👏🏽

[@ultraviolet_channel]

I just started recently, more are coming I’m sure of it!

[@Madman._.]

Added to my "Favourite Videos" playlist. Will show this to my kids someday if KZbin will still be around. They should know.

[@Chris-dy1cb]

That intro to Horizon 1 was the peak for the entire series for me. God I wish I could live in that moment again, where the music syncs with the player taking control of the car while flying at top speed. Insane.

[@rafahrynkiewicz8274]

Half a year ago I've bought a used xBox 360 and Forza Motorsport 4. Since 2011 I wanted to play it, but had a PS3 and was short on disposable income for a long time. And I can tell - it is still breathtaking. Considering the hardware is 17 years old, it still amazes me. What is so brilliant about it? Well: - The gameplay isn't distracting - you race cars, you earn money and win cars + customization. - No randomized card system - you want more difficulty - just set sliders to he right, and you'll win more, simple as that. - Menus show the age - lack a few options and could be a bit faster to navigate, but it's still manageable. - Menu music (courtesy of Lance Hayes) is beautiful, I still listen to it when driving IRL or when walking to work - it's soothing, relaxing, yet dynamic. Hard to describe. - The cars are the STARS. No distractions, no "cool yo homie" underground stuff or battle royale aesthetic, neither is it a full on GT3 racing sim only for the hardcore. Some may call FM4 sterile, "too clean" - I love it. The feeling that you're in a huge warehouse with hundreds of both exotic missiles and humble grocery getters on opposing ends of the spectrum. And all of the wonders in between. I yearn for a next-gen game like this.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

It's always interesting to hear other peoples perspectives on this, of course I love aspects of FM4 and hope they can bring some of those over to newer titles in the franchise.

[@MrGman636]

I think the best way to describe Horizon 4 is “empty”. Sure the map is stuffed full of events, but none of them are consequential. Once playground games stops making new events, people will realize the map and world will get boring really quickly. It’s not a game world you want to spend time in just for the sake of it, unlike horizon 1 or 2. And like you said, there’s no story to push a sense of progression or finality. It’s racing game purgatory with no ending.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Totally. As the saying goes “as wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle”

[@dragobruder6328]

The video is really good. Thanks for doing it

[@StxnceUK]

Great video man, we need more people to start pushing this message because it seems like modern racing game titles are on a decline with quality

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Thanks man!

[@MysteriousMatt89]

You nailed it my guy, huge TDU fan here. Can't wait to see what Nacon and Kylotonn are do! I recommend AlexVII, he has very interesting videos about TDU :)

[@ultraviolet_channel]

I watch Alex a lot! He’s seen a couple of my videos too. He’s a great guy!

[@pratikschannel6075]

TDU series, BLUR, NFS MW were my favorites. Countless hours spent on those games.

[@hassanbatrek9850]

Man your newer videos are a blessing... But these old ones are a 2x must.

[@whiplash-wl8764]

I'm glad you mentioned CMS cause that was one of the things I loved about it, you can play by how you feel and there attention to detail of a lot of the parts is incredible. I'm very excited for when CMS21 releases.

[@smillerp6503]

In my opinion TDU2 is pinnacle and unbeatable as an open world racing game. And since TDU World released on PC, the game can be relived again yay. Hopefully Solar Crown is good.

[@BDozer666]

TDU1 is better. TDU2 is a big downgrade. You get an extra island but every other aspect of the game suffered.

[@lohostege]

TC2 has houses/garages that seems similar to TDU2. And The Crew series had the ability to chose colors, wheels, interior when buying the car, and test drive it. TC2 is super grindy, you have to do like 10-20 minutes for like a 40k car. The Crew series may be more arcade physics, and funny physics, but that's why I like them.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

The Crew definitely has its place, it’s very arcades and casual but there are a lot of people who love that!

[@himeros8826]

Yup, that's because some of the devs that helped on the development of TDU2 were hired by ubisoft. Btw, for me, the crew 2 was a step back if you compare it to TC1... the graphics are like... plastic? Idk, for 2021 game... also the gameplay feels VERY arcade, same with the tunning and I think it's even far away from any NFS game in those things, didn't like how you have to grind but feels grateful when you buy a Hypercar.

[@lohostege]

@@himeros8826 I only have a Pagani for a hypercar in TC2. I did like the style of TC, because it was much grittier, and way less bright than TC2. Also had a real nighttime, so you can just chill driving down highways.

[@lucky7th331]

I like your videos, good stuff dude, keep it up 👌🏻

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Thanks dude!

[@TracerX]

You motivated me enough to buy this game tomorrow. TDU World, here I come!

[@parthalmule5460]

I feel that Horizon changed directions yes between FH1 to FH2. But I feel that the biggest difference was between FH2 and FH3. Horizon 2 still had the festival as an important thing. Horizon 3 pretending to act like they care about the festival. Horizon 2 still had characters, cut scenes, and dialogue. FH2 and FH had a sepia tone a filter which Fh3 removed. FH3 in the trailer did not included people or the festival, they made this cinematic. Horizon 3 was trying to sell itself as a spectacle with the cinematic trailer and the hot wheels. The expansions in the early Horizon expansions were realistic and the fast and the furious expansion did not go as unrealistic as hot wheels or speed champions.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

I agree, FH2 to FH3 was the biggest shift. I actually really liked Horizon 3 but it changed completely then it went to Horizon 4

[@xZeroGrxvity]

FH3 had the best map in my opinion.

[@christiancruzada]

Defo agree! Indeed the future looks very promising with both GT7 and FM implying that they 're going back to their roots. Just hoping they could deliver with them not being Year 1 exclusives.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Yeah that was definitely a bit disappointing, but hey, if they are great games in the end it’ll all be worth it!

[@charles-antoinetremblay2691]

Holy shit you just put the feeling of fh1 in words i legit cried remembering this game hearing the song in the background i .. had a big nostalgia rush even tho its the 4th one songs its still making me remember still feelsgooman

[@thelonekoala57]

Really great review. What you mentioned is not limited to racing games but the whole gaming scene today..

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Thanks dude! Yeah unfortunately that’s true. It’s most of gaming these days and that really sucks. But happily there are some shining games/companies out still

[@thelonekoala57]

@@ultraviolet_channel The most neglected game genre today is hardcore stealth games. Although ghost of tsushima is an awesome game it is still on the casual side. We need hardcore stealth games like splinter cell to return. Can you believe it it's been almost 9yrs since last sc game??

[@ultraviolet_channel]

@@thelonekoala57 that’s crazy, yeah Ghost was absolutely incredible. A new Splinter Cell would be absolutely out of this world

[@lbnewell23]

The thing I miss most about older racing games is any sense of achievement. It has all been removed from the modern games because they just hand everything to you on a silver platter. I remember in gran tourismo 5 which was the first one I played I started with a gem 1 MX5 and slowly did the cheapest upgrades to make it better until I could finally afford my next car. Then the sense of achievement I got when I went to buy my first Ferrari was so exciting. You look to today and every time you do a race in the two racing games I play GT sport and horizon 4 you get free stuff and too much money. I have nearly 500 unique cars in forza 4 and I probably bought about 80 of them. STOP GIVING ME FREE SHIT it takes the fun and excitement out

[@ibrahimaboud4453]

I understand that this guy is telling his opinion and everyone has a different view on these games, but regarding the comparison of forza horizon games and as someone who put well over 400 hours in forza horizon 4 i can tell it has been the best racing experience I've tried in racing/adventure genre, and this is coming from someone who played most racing games since 2002 let me start off with the map it is a 4 season changing map that looks absolutely stunning and is different in each season and all cars drive differently with each season, the car collection in this game is enough to fill a dozen car museums only second in this game to forza 7 Motorsport, the game itself is not a grindy mess that cost you many hours of playing to win cars or other rewards. there are a whole lot to do in the game to do like racing events, dirt rally events, cross country races, street races, story challenges like the stunt driver and top gear and drift club, an extensive multiplayer to experience and i could go on all these things this dude fails to appreciate in this short horrible summary, instead he mentions the only thing forza horizon 4 doesn't excell in (car sounds) as a car enthusiast like myself and any other petrol head that played this game i don't care about a story or grinding to feel rewarded after a difficult event i just want to drive all the cars my heart desires and modify or tune them and this game has more than served my need for the ultimate arcade racer game and i can only say good things about it and to say at the end like it's going to be forgettable and no one will care in 3-4 years you Lost me completely. I understand that may be your opinion on it but I've also said mine.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

I totally respect yours too man, Horizon 4 is genuinely impressive, in terms of technical skills that went into every aspect of the game it’s mind blowing, and if you saw my pinned comment, I said that I really actually do like Horizon 4, it’s just not as good(in my opinion) as Horizon 3 and Horizon 1. But yeah man I totally see what you mean!

[@ultraviolet_channel]

And as an Automotive Technician, I’m really into the specifics of cars and want everything to be as realistic as possible, even though I know that that’s totally unrealistic. A lot of people get the vibe im not a car guy which is funny to me😂. Like I fix cars for a living so I better love cars

[@ibrahimaboud4453]

@@ultraviolet_channel i just read it after i typed my comment i may have overstepped apologies for it but it's only because I've wholeheartedly enjoyed fh4 like no other car game and i appreciate your view on it i also enjoyed story racing games like most wanted nfs 2005 and underground 1-2 and I also think we lack this format in today's racing games.

[@ibrahimaboud4453]

@@ultraviolet_channel that's very cool dude i wish i could understand how a car really works in detail and always wanted to know about the way they function because I always had this desire to fix my car myself in case it went wrong but we don't all get what we want unfortunately 😂

[@ultraviolet_channel]

@@ibrahimaboud4453 oh you are totally fine! Don’t worry you were totally justified with everything you said. In all honesty, this video was made when I had around 800 subscribers and was getting maybe 200-300 views per video, and this one blew up out of nowhere and if I had known it was going to do that, I would have done SOOO many things differently and clarified my Horizon 4 thoughts much better

[@gusparlow]

I'm so happy to hear an opinion just like mine in regards of new racing games and specially FH4. For years I dreamed of playing the original Horizon game and TDU2, and after that happened when I finally bought my 360 I was not a little bit disappointed, now I just want to go back to it. Anyways, very nice video and cheers from Brazil.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@TOFOGeorge]

Even something as small as being able to lower and raise the roofs of convertibles or indicating left and right was amazing in the test drive series 🔥

[@haroldmerewether1224]

older games were more ambitious, they had different race styles and different in game features. No they all seem to be competing for graphics only.

[@filipkotlaja8697]

Would just like to add a game to this list that, in my opinion, perfectly showcases just the amount of quality you could get all those years ago. Hot Pursuit 2 (PS2 version). To this day, i still cannot think of a game that has tighter races (honestly one of the few examples of rubber-banding done right), or more intense chases. Even if it's showing its age, a genuine sense of progression as you play through the tournaments, as well as giving you the option to branch out any way you like is very much appreciated. Add to that unique engine sounds, A-mazing track design, a very, very suitable soundtrack (you cannot tell me that "One Little Victory" during a chase doesn't get you pumped up) and so, so much more, and even almost 20 years from now, i still return every now and then to replay it. (also, this is probably one of the better recommendations KZbin gave me recently, it was a really nice video)

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@-the_stranger--i1288]

Thank you very much for that video...finally someone talks about that issue that we still seeing it to day!!!,but i hope you can make another video about forza motorsport series...like how it's was being improved from fm1 to fm4 and then how it's changed from fm5 to fm7..... car collections....main menu.... the details in forzavista.... the events and championships.....the rewards system...the soundtracks..... and who is speaking to introduce the game to you like fm4 (James may,Richard hammond, Jeremy Clarkson). Speaking of forzavista for example like what we see in fm4 it's really detailed like...the (openings/closing) doors and hoods sounds!!! and the turning on engine sound with starting engine alerts sounds when u switch on the key before starting and how you jump in the car like real life and hearing the original horn of the car.

[@rrokas]

Great video, the GTA music was a nice add haha. Subscribed :)

[@amar9413]

This is why I getting the new TDU solar clown.🤗

[@Scoobywoo7447]

If you take a step back you'll notice the whole of society is like this, it looks good until you get closer and realise how flawed everything is.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

That’s deep

[@Scoobywoo7447]

@@ultraviolet_channel it is but insanely true lol I'm like you, I loved the grind of test drive, forza is a mess compared to what it 9nce was. Your idea about different difficulties is a really good idea, you say it may be hard but with racing games not having that much of a story I think it could be done really well. I'm glad your honest about whats going on many yt channels just jump along with everything but I feel you are having the same gaming crisis as me, wanting quality over quantity.

[@tajraiden7941]

Big respect for this vidéo bro i feel thé same as you i Hope they bring that back

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Thank you!

[@_Devil]

I think the biggest curse in the entire VG industry is the shift from single-player focused games to online multi-player focused games. I should clarify, I have literally zero issue with couch co-op and split-screen, my gripes are entirely with online multi-player titles. How the industry is handling and implementing online multi-player is absolutely atrocious. Every online multi-player game is doing everything in its power to sell you loot boxes, or battle passes, or subscription fees to arbitrary content. They don't ever bother innovating, they just want to have the biggest roster (whether it be heroes, or classes, or cars, or champions, or whatever you wanna call them), and that causes the quality to dip down dramatically. They'll constantly lock overpowered content behind paywalls and then put all that profit right into their pockets. For an example, GTA 5 Online has made *SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS THROUGHOUT THE PAST DECADE* and its notorious for having zero quality control and no innovation. Rockstar made their money and they ran with it, rather than putting it back into the game to make it better. Basically what I'm trying to say is that every online multi-player game is trying to be like another online multi-player game (whichever's hot in the moment, usually Call of Duty or Fortnite) and the developers never put their best into games anymore. They just rush them out the door and riddle the in-game store with microtransactions.

[@marcuskane3187]

Automodelista allows u to change garage interior :D also swapping engines is amazing there!

[@marcuskane3187]

I am an indie game dev and I am planning to make a racing game with a deep story. It's gonna be 2D, but I am looking at Juiced handling characteristics.. They seem to fit the best.

[@xxshannen1xx]

You've just sold Horizon 1 to me! Also i really think The Crew had a great story and different race types.

[@khalilgray6391]

Ngl the next Crew should have the Crew 1 storyline and the Crew 2’s car list plus more cars to add to the list and we should have actual aftermarket brander wheels and u should be able make the width of the wheels wider so the wide body parts fit better

[@ThatProjectZcar]

@@khalilgray6391 yes, I thought the crew 1 story was way better than 2 but 2 has the better car list. Spent way to much time on the first one.

[@HunterJonesJr]

Good video. I just got a wheel finally and I'm new to Forza as of about 3 weeks ago. I agree they just throw money and cars at you with no story or sense of earning anything. I miss that sense of accomplishment

[@OfficialAzor]

What made Test drive so good to me was the feeling of seeing somone in a bugatti and almost being star struck by the guys with the most amazing cars. With a difficulty slider this effect would be gone but i see your point.

[@alltidvanlu7888]

Nice video i agree. My biggest issue is the roads in fh, they are to wide and long corners. Nothing technical or difficult. We can just drive full speed and never touch the break throughout the whole map.. tdu is king

[@ultraviolet_channel]

I totally agree

[@demarkz]

Maybe it's because it was designed to high speed races. I started playing racing games back in the 00's and I loved games based on speed like nfs, but today I can't play theses games anymore, after I started playing more simcades games that's closer to reality driving. I enjoy watching Gameplays from games such as Forza horizon e nfs, but I can't play 'em anyone because it feels so unnatural.

[@lumiapowered8463]

FH1 generally had tighter roads than newer, and since you couldn't break every wall it generally made that more of a focus: check out the urban areas, Red Rock & the perimeter roads around the map

[@HYDRARMOR]

My favourite racing game of all time is race driver grid the 1st one Oh my god, im still playing today and its a blast. No racing games come close to this (for me)

[@MrHunterbg]

The career mode is one of the best in racing games. Love the fact that you can race in the 24 hours of Le Mans after you finish a race series. eBay motors, team building, etc.. sooooo freaking good.

[@p_Hak]

I just started playing that a few weeks ago and I'm really enjoying it so far. The damage model is fantastic and the racing itself is great fun.

[@himeros8826]

Nice video, finally someone that talks about the great old TDU2 and all those details that even in this time, the industry forgot. And there's more... the tachometer, the HUD that was actually same as the car you were riding, opening the roof of the cars as the Ferrari California, DBS Volante, etc. Sadly that the gameplay got fucked up a bit, also they were losing money because basically every DLC was free for a bug that they never fixed, lol. I'm still hyped for TDU SC, hope that the new studio can put the game in a good place between FH5 and TC, pushing the other studios to make finally a good racing game.

[@ultraviolet_channel]

Thanks man! Yeah TDU2 pioneered so many features that games today can’t even keep up with

[@rubbertoe.]

Speaking of TDU2, I recently found my old PC CD copy of the game and decided to buy a USB to CD reader so I could play it again. And wow what a breath of fresh air after playing FH4 for a while. It's just indefinitely better in almost every gameplay regard.