The Problem with Roblox Zombie Games (And how to fix it) | Ready 2 Die, The Undead Coming

[@dagzthe]

Awesome video thanks for reviewing my game The undead coming, maybe this time the undead coming actually comes

[@adisappointedfbiagent449]

The Undead are Coming!?

[@PumpyGT]

They are what???

[@ate9d]

The Undead Cumming????

[@x3ll3nmusic]

Now, for the real question : Where would they go ?

[@worm-29]

WHAT are they doing????

[@Imirui]

One of the problems with zombie games that have a zombie team is that it’s always their job to literally throw themselves at the humans until they happen to kill someone. Playing a game where you die repeatedly isn’t fun. To quote Kaluka, “Nobody wants to play a game where they lose all the time. People already have that, it’s called a job.” The only time dying repeatedly is fun is if it happens in increasingly comedic ways each time.

[@nathanpierce7681]

this is exactly why i hate playing z-team on mutation and why I get so tilted from the lack of z-coordination you have to dogpile a single weak human to get a fighting chance

[@Aba-xf3fr]

You clearly haven't played zombie survival on gmod before typing this haha

[@robloxarchiver]

@@Aba-xf3fr we are talking about roblox here

[@Aba-xf3fr]

@@robloxarchiver If you knew what I was talking about, you'd get why I was making the comparison.

[@therabbidt]

You should try re:infected

[@runner0233]

2008 - Reason 2 Die 2016 - Ready 2 Die 2024 - Refuse 2 Die

[@The_whales]

2032 - did not have permission 2 die

[@DOCTO5]

2042 - too wierd and strict 2 die

[@slavsit7600]

2054 - cant wait 2 die

[@flamecontrolly]

2079 - Too money hungry 2 die

[@anarosasison6552]

2099 - too grindy 2 die

[@LucLue]

The Undead was coming, so I was Ready 2 Die and they got a Mutation.

[@ids.]

I guess that mutation made you have a reason 2 die

[@DOCTO5]

Even though the mutations are a bit wierd and strict.

[@JackO_kidplosion]

*dies from peak fiction and the infection*

[@DOCTO5]

@@JackO_kidplosion *revives from paying 30 robux*

[@saltypen3139]

Everything reeked of guts and blackpowder by the time I left 4 blox

[@Ice-wu8qq]

guts & blackpowder my beloved

[@youhangaroundforaliving]

FRFR

[@archimedesfromteamfortress2]

Guts and blackpowder is a truly unique zombie game, the setting, the lore, the multiple classes, the objective mode

[@ADcommenter]

We need more zombie games that use the walkers from george romero's night of the living dead

[@idklol311]

My favorite roblox zombies game

[@GermanSanitater]

It is truly a masterpiece. Too bad most of the players are pretty brain dead and ring the bell right after you say DONT RING THE BELL

[@DrKat]

We need an RE style zombie game on the platform, would greatly shake up the genre and could be a huge success if handled well enough, RE5 style multiplayer might be the way to go, but all of this requires Devs to take risks, which I'm 99% sure most Roblox Devs won't dare to do

[@Breadian]

I'm Leon Kennedy

[@anusaukko6792]

Breadian community trying not to meatmunch on RE challenge (nearly impossible)

[@uningenious]

If I recall, there's also some old resident evil clones on roblox as well (roblox evil), so it's clearly been tried. I think that would be a interesting venue, to say the least.

[@noman8477]

​@Breadian for god sake breadian pls stop

[@williambarrett1683]

​@@anusaukko6792 blame breadians obsession with Leon kennedy.

[@shineinpeacee]

Comparing grinding to edging actually took me out bro I didn't expect that at all lmao

[@UNALLOYEDSLOP]

Do they teach you how to feel, sigma to sigma

[@minute0420]

i hear the words "roblox" and "zombie game" in the same sentence but there isnt a mention of "Guts & Blackpowder" so i immediately begin to sleep soundly

[@marimbuh]

Nothing to fix there

[@Hillybilly-dj6kw]

@@marimbuh Yeah

[@J3XC]

I spent 5 years moderating ingame for R2DA and I seen all the drama. I think what made R2DA fun was the small group of friends you could get together with and mess around with the bugs and the glitchy code. (any bug that was funny we would just call PR logic) I respect R2D for being there for the people who waited for a remake for over a year, but I can understand that nothing could fix the issues R2DA had with balancing. The real R2D was the friends we made along the way.

[@bobertbwild1350]

Hear me out. R2D is a bad game. The only part that’s good is the nostalgia. Any new player cannot get into it. It’s overall not a fun experience and the graphics are kinda just horrible. Play G&B

[@uchuynguyen4763]

@@bobertbwild1350 good or bad doesnt matter what matters is fun and R2D was fun with all goofy items

[@baiter660]

I still remember when Chronos came out, playerbase peaked and was the most fun time ever. In fact the experience from start of the game to Chronos was probably the best years the game had.

[@JxJx2005]

@@bobertbwild1350 i thought i was the only one that thinks r2d is the least fun game on roblox

[@c4nk_34]

@@bobertbwild1350 r2d wasn't bad all of the time, only when it almost reached its deathrow, afterwards people decided to remake not the older r2d (before 2020) but the newest one (which is the worst one tbh), and from now on, r2d is just awful to play at times, i mean i still play with friends for fun but it isn't that fun than it was before.

[@myusername3689]

6:27 This is *partially* wrong because usually, they’ll just say: “Oh your device is just bad.” Instead of acknowledging the game has an actual optimization issue.

[@Sauczi]

The thing I miss most about old zombie games is they actually designed the map so 10 people could stick together and hold a area with their back safe, these current ones make you run around and split up for no reason. To make it more engaging? but theres ways for zombies to breach a strong line of people

[@medicfdumbo]

Camping in that one house map in the old infected games was so flames

[@Sauczi]

@@medicfdumbo thats what im talkin bout. That feeling of holding that one room down. Or when you were feeling spicy and you split off with other people and went into the sewers. And the jaredvaldez one were there were many diff spots

[@NateDoesYT]

Bro I agree with this, I remember playing a shit ton of Left 4 Dead 1 & 2 and playing a bunch of survivals/campaigns, people really forget how amazing it felt just holding in with a bunch of friends, randoms, strangers you named it.

[@glameow12345]

I can absolutely attest to what you said about R2D being unfriendly to newcomers. When I played it all I did was spawn in as a zombie, and get spawn killed for the entire round. Once I was able to play as a human I couldn’t get a single kill because once they came into my sight a better player would get them in half a second.

[@syinari8266]

"your struggle is unrelatable" is basically a summary what it means to grind a roblox game waste of time and not relatable or really translatable in 99% of anything.

[@user-yu1mg5lz1v]

9:45 Ready 2 Die was actually supposed to have a different "gift hunt" system that was voted on in the Discord server. For some reason it never happened.

[@duckyduckington9736]

The best way to handle the undead is to make them not function as just "another undead but a lil stronger" make player undeads a genuine threat that the people HAVE to gun down.

[@x3ll3nmusic]

Great video, as usual. I expected no less from the real Leon Kennedy. I tried The Undead Coming pretty recently, I think it's a pretty cool game. My only problem with it is the grind.

[@Breadian]

I think we played together for a few minutes hehe

[@x3ll3nmusic]

Yup, that's how I found out about it :)

[@askew7674]

zombiecon in the intro took me back man damn i miss that game

[@Breadian]

Glad someone recognizes it

[@lukyone450]

Right now, the best zombie game is guts and blackpowder, it is mad eby devs who made left 4 die a gem which is based on l4d. If you want to win in guts and blackpowder you need to have good teammates and know how blood iron muskets work. Even with it's flaws, it's the best

[@Legnd_Zer0]

The chaos in the end of the matches with the music is the best part of the game, It feels so natural

[@VSx_T]

imagine a game where its a team vs team vs zombies and its a champaign

[@realobamagaming]

@@VSx_T humans vs wild monkeys vs zombies lol

[@jukita]

imagine having a game so divisive that god himself has to intervene to get you to take it down

[@qrzone8167]

Pretty much hit the nail on the head. If anyone is familiar with the minecraft version of L4D "McInfected" literally everything in this video applies to how that game died as well. Made a game completely hostile and unfun to everyone except people with like 3k hours in the game and money whales. Then *shocked pikachu face* when the game bleeds players until its inevitable demise.

[@guyonabus]

man i love this series, keep talking about zombies again!

[@Breadian]

Glad we have more zombie fans

[@Quandarius-ug8wf]

@@Breadianhave u ever played Zombie Survival Garry’s Mod? It’s another clone u might be interested in

[@xolborundeadnation]

The fact that you left Undead Nation out of this video means that it truly is a flawless game. Thank you for this message, Breadian. There is no such thing as a Nano Infection.

[@DaKing08]

username checks out

[@xolborundeadnation]

@@DaKing08 Actually, that's not my username. That's my legal name. My forename is Xolbor and my surname is undeadnation.

[@bloxxer6259]

@@xolborundeadnationwe found the real John Xolbor, antagonist from hit game “Undead Nation “ developed by exeplex and published on the ROBLOX platform

[@robloxarchiver]

​@@xolborundeadnation mods, break into the goverment's tax files to see if this guy exists

[@xolborundeadnation]

@@robloxarchiver You think I pay taxes?

[@tlewy485]

oh god the old r2d is such a great memory to be a part of until it got ruined by cheaters :(

[@NateDoesYT]

Agreed, people really forget how amazing R2D truly was during it's prime, it got ruined sadly not just the cheaters but the staff/devs, drama and the community being hypocrites sadly.

[@realobamagaming]

cheaters are everywhere, but the devs also ruined their own game unironically. therefore it is a good riddance despite the great memories.

[@purplebelike5510]

Ever since i left Reason 3 Die due to the lack of changes the owner lost interest on. I moved on to a better place working on a Undead Strike Classic game. Which takes place in 2019 sort of. Your videos helps to courage my work and to reveal the main issues on every game (especially R2D because they have never heard of players experiences over the years). Keep up with the great content👍.

[@Dr.Oofers]

It’s so weird that “games inspired by l4d” or more specifically it’s “versus” mode, fail to realize that they had you play as the specials, since playing as a *regular zombie* meant to be fodder, isn’t fun. That’s part of the issue with games like R2D, you are often *forced* to play a fodder zombie until RNG favors you and gives you something useful. It’s like Halo’s Infection game mode, except in that mode you don’t get anything to break the stalemate. Sure, making all zombie players play as a special it wouldn’t help with the survivors who have the OP weapons, but it’d be a stepping stone into making survivors at least *try to play* as the zombies once they die. Have fodder zombies be replaced with NPCs that routinely spawn, so survivors are constantly pressured, and if you want to give some extra team-related goals to the zombies (besides killing all survivors), make it so they can collectively help upgrade the NPC fodder zombies. Maybe it can be stats or an actual upgrade (like adding a new type of fodder into the mix or increasing its chances of spawning/how many spawn with each horde). Also doesn’t help that a lot of maps (at least in R2D) are very open, and don’t encourage groups of players finding spots to actually hold out. Even when that does happen, zombies can barely break through and get anyone.

[@Great-Griff]

A lot of Roblox devs actually know very little or nothing at all about actual game development and balance. I've been on-and-off Roblox since 2012, and by far the most common theme among semi-popular to even the trendy games is this; Roblox devs will be "inspired" by an already established franchise or successful product, but they won't have a single clue as to what made it work in the first place. Countless Roblox devs wanted to emulate Left 4 Dead, but had no idea what made it great in the first place. Roblox devs wanted to make horror games, but had no idea what actually made games scary in the first place. The result is a swathe of games that don't feel like the popular IP they're "inspired" by, rather they feel like a shameful bastardization of something vaguely resembling an existing IP, only on the surface. It's sad to see that this cycle continues well after 2012 when I started; I figured at this point Roblox devs would finally at least take some time to figure out what made their inspiration so great in the first place. Basically, Roblox devs are several decades behind everyone else on game design principles and philosophies. They're still figuring out shit that every other game dev community figured out in the 90's.

[@NateDoesYT]

@@Great-Griff As a guy that played the older roblox game back then, this statement is true, one of the biggest reasons why so many devs failed is because their simply not passionate about it, instead of saying "How can we make this game enjoyable? they simply want it "how can I make more money?" that's why games like Reason 2 die felt so unbalance and off, is because not only did the creator not care, but personally roblox, engine as a whole is simply not perfect.

[@Great-Griff]

@@NateDoesYT Yes, unfortunately a majority of the innovations made with ROBLOX games is just figuring out new ways to manipulate the player into spending as much robux as possible. It would be kinda funny if it wasn't so worrying, the lengths some people are willing to go to just to get some virtual funbucks, even willing to get little kids addicted to gambling, like games with cases that can be bought with robux.

[@therabbidt]

You should try re:infected

[@NateDoesYT]

@@therabbidt Never got into it sadly, but I heard from others and remembered it was a pretty good/cool game, my top zombies Roblox are usually the following: *Guts & Blackpowder* *Those Who Remain* *Rise of the Dead* *RECOIL ZOMBIES* *Project Lazarus: Zombies* *Zombie Attack* There's prob more games but yeah. Personally, for me, I'm more of a Zombie Uprising/Michael's Zombies type of guy, love the weapons and stuff there too, another thing that's unrelated. I've been getting into Area 51 games, and playing this one game but I'm getting burnout, any advice? Planning on not playing that specific game either ever again or a long time between July-August.

[@justfn14]

i prolly got rose tinted glasses on but 25:02 STARBATTLES DER RIESE IS PEAK ISTG

[@Kiitn]

I've seen Reason 2 die, die and be revived in a continous loop and I really hope R2D actually fixes up yk? with Ailbric being out of the picture for development on that game, and a beta being promised, I do really hope we get a solid R2DA continuation, not because Im "nostalgic" but because I find actual fun within the core concept of the game

[@Dr.Oofers]

There’s genuine potential with the concept, it just keeps getting squandered and making the bad aspects worse, or simply ignores them.

[@trixzfr1315]

100% agree with the rounds lasting to long on ready 2 die.. simply reducing 10 minute rounds to 6 would make the game so much more bearable…. COMPLETELY REMOVE survival unlimited too

[@trixzfr1315]

With these changes and actually updating the game on time (Christmas update on February?!??)… I can’t see R2D failing heavily

[@nathanpierce7681]

mutation mentioned, z-leeper agents activated also i love how you totally captured the unhinged circlejerk nature of mutation chat

[@etnec]

i edge to all your videos since 2021

[@Breadian]

thanks

[@dimitris5061]

This is wild💀

[@iamscreaming4336]

That last guy impression of you was spot on, u should make it your intro for 1 vid.

[@Fezezen]

Guts and Blackpowder...

[@Halfway-Stupid]

Christ, there is Guts in my Blackpowder. Can you fix that please in the next update 🥺🥺🥺

[@DOCTO5]

Wierds and strictpowdad

[@Argo_Spiral]

Honestly watching all your videos I think I'm gonna stay away from Ready 2 Die, it just sounds like the original TUC remake but worse. Also 12:16 - 12:23 THATS WHAT I'M SAYIN-. Seriously why do so many games make rad event content then throw it all away instead of just letting us play it without the rewards? Mutation sounds like it might be fun, the mere thought of ramming a subspace-tripmine attached car into a zombie is pure comedy gold to me. I didn't even know there was another TUC remake, it actually sounds like fun, given the developer seems to be taking the first games criticism into account. Overall goated video.

[@Breadian]

I haven’t played mutation in a year so idk what they nerfed the mines to. I stopped playing when they got nerfed the 1st or 2nd time lol

[@guutn7973]

5:30 This is just so true, i am out of words. Rip R2DA and my childhood.

[@scottiespvzrobloxteam2286]

hi, r2d dev here, thanks for the feedback on the exp grind and how monotonous it is, i'm taking your feedback into consideration and will be talking to the rest of the dev team about the criticism you've brought up

[@GenZombs]

Ready 2 Die is a game created by Synween and arsa5x, the game is a revival of Reason 2 Die: Awakening by PlaceRebuilder, both games are free to play ROBLOX Multi-player Zombie Survival games. Survivors must survive while doing various objectives in order to win while fighting endless hordes of zombies, which will try to stop them from doing so. The game includes new additions and features that were not present in Reason 2 Die: Awakening. Ready 2 Die had previously went under the name Reason 2 Die: Definitive Edition however was told to change as a request from PlaceRebuilder. For information about the game history, click here.

[@redactedgamersgd1788]

At one point about R2D, the campaign time was reduced to 8 minutes but somehow the devs thought about changing it back to 10. And survivor used to have 10s sprint stamina that got mulched down to 5 when Christmas update dropped, at which is planned to be reverted... After 2 months of murking survivor team to be reliant on mounts. And about the changes to make the game better, the community did go out of their way to suggest some pretty good ideas such as replacing gifts with event contracts, along with small QoL stuff but the devs only look up to submission 99% of the time because skins have more priority than QoL changes. And that 1% would just be Scott.

[@redactedgamersgd1788]

Also addendum for TUC:A. They should probably change the way so that servers wont just get early tank 3 minutes into survival consistently

[@Imirui]

20:33 I’m happy that now you have the opposite problem of people volunteering as zombie and being dragged to the survivor team because there’s too many starter zombies. It happens to me way too often as of recently and it is funny as hell that it happens because the zombies are good. (Too good probably.)

[@CRT_YT]

2:42 this cannot be real the creator cannot be this completely insane bro what 😭

[@clashroyale-yl4ec]

As a firm believer, this was truly the signest of all signs from god

[@Aperson13314]

Yeah, PlaceRebuilder went fucking insane lmao

[@BIoxPixeI]

bro has schizophrenia

[@breadenjoyer76]

Imagine one of these games but it's inspired from something like Zombie Night Terror, where you have to control the zombies and mutate them and stuff. I dont know, just something with a different direction

[@holepunch1829]

i agree on TUC:A being way better than the original. deadass remember the devs balancing the guns based on their cost

[@Imirui]

22:18 You are right about never having to get ammo for it. The average survival round is 4 minutes long. To drain all the ammo of the gun it would take 162 seconds, (972 bullets/6 per second) assuming the fire rate of 6 means 6bullets/sec. Thats nearly 3 minutes not even accounting for reloading the fucking thing. Accounting for reloads, that adds an additional 208 seconds. (This is because the gun starts loaded already.) Assuming non-stop firing at the maximum speed, it would take you 370 seconds, or 6 minutes and 10 seconds to run out of ammo for the thing. Uncle Dane was exaggerating when he said you wouldn’t run out of the pistol’s 200 reserve ammo (12 in clip, 212 total) but with this you’re going to run out of time in the fucking round before you get close to running out.

[@togeluga_the_cat]

literaly played R2D once because i thought it would be fun i had the very oposite of fun touched it once, never again

[@insertpng6289]

I swear a guts and blackpowder ripoff set in the fantasy setting of the 1940s would literally be more original than 90% of roblox zombie games, i cant even be bothered to check out a roblox zombie game these days because i know its literally just going to be the thousandth cod zombies ripoff

[@e.1970]

There is a zombie game set in the 1940s called “ww2 zombie survival”

[@watermeionni]

the only problem i have is that breadian HASN'T SENT ME HIS HOME ADDRESS YET!!!!! ily bbg 🥰😍♥💕

[@watermeionni]

breadian i will be your goon zombie problem 🥰

[@dallas9397]

The fuc?

[@Brawg999]

Are you edging

[@sn0ipe333]

All the zombie games are balanced in a way where progression becomes an arms race between zombies and survivors, as they become increasingly more powerful until it comes over to a point where gameplay is unfair for both sides. Ultimately, newer players suffer for it, as balance often revolves around the peak of either sides’ power (higher levels), leading to focused changes that neglect players starting out in an effort to keep experienced players engaged.

[@Random_-ky3li]

5:45 Hey look its me! Also i find it funny how that was the example despite it not defending r2da in the slightest

[@Random_-ky3li]

He used the clip twice to try and portray me as some r2da defender too lmao, bro i agree with this dude and that comment was basically just agreeing with him in long form.

[@ids.]

to be honest bro nobodys going to read an entire essay in a youtube comment section

[@Random_-ky3li]

@@ids. I literally stated my point on the matter at the fight like, three lines, reading the full thing aint the issue here, just find it funny that he didnt even skim over it before trying to portray me as some "r2da soyboy"

[@shinygoldenpotion1587]

i like zombie games but too many of them are basically just cod zombies I want a zombie game where you have to survive until you find an escape like left for dead (incursion is a good example) or a sci fi style game where you have to research and fight off a zombie virus whilst getting better weapons and knowledge about the zombies

[@randomdude8467]

As someone who loved mutation, the anti-fun update really fucked everything up. I’m sure that, if that update would’ve never happened, the game would still have a normal amount of players

[@TheREALSendHateMail]

16:33 MAMA IM ON TV thx for bringing some light onto mutation again

[@velvet_w0rld178]

Zombie attack was always my favourite game, it was so fun trying to survive with friends and strangers. Now it's all about grinding.

[@ZainnhyDude]

funny part about the skull champion is that if it was on a community server you could literally just votekick whoever became it

[@redeleven240]

As some one with over 300 hours in mutation I can say from experience. Humans can still be op, you just need a good load out. And the game can still be fun if you try to play a more interesting play style.

[@notdude0]

"Before the game dies" bro it got 3k players thats way more peak then the 2021 version

[@Breadian]

When I wrote the script, the game had 200

[@adisappointedfbiagent449]

@@BreadianYou say the game dies and it more than triples in players lmfao

[@cadecadecadecadecadecade]

124 players rn, the game is dead lol@@adisappointedfbiagent449

[@windowswastaken]

​@@adisappointedfbiagent449 its trash anyways

[@gamerbeginner5019]

​@@adisappointedfbiagent449 it back 100+ lol

[@therabbidt]

You SHOULD play Re:infected. Never has it made playing zombies so fun. It's based off the Counter Strike zombie maps/escape modes and they pull a fun twist of giving you special mutant zombies that can absolutely wreck servers. As someone who often played those gamemodes, I found myself preferring to be a zombie main due to how fun and chaotic it is once you get a special zombie that allows you to formulate a plan to infect. This game is not easy for the human teams. They often lose. It is unforgiving and absolutely brutal.

[@generichuman3838]

12:12 oh nahhh, that ain’t ready 2 die that’s ready 4 dictatorship

[@zombieboyxx]

"dont know what era were in but its not peak" you can describe the enitreity of roblox and gaming in gneral with this staements

[@Renown-188]

Hey, I’m a debugger for R2D It wasnt mentioned in the video, but the game is currently going under a lot of changes. the entire game is being recoded, primarily by our new programmer ur_lucky. So the bugs and inconsistencies we see ingame are on their way out But in regards to game balance, the debug team can’t stop talking about it amongst themselves. I myself especially And I agree with the current problems you mentioned, it seems after all this time we can’t deviate from the cycle of gameplay that’s existed since 2019. What I notice is that we keep repeating mistakes and I think it’s due to the fact that the people who were previously, and currently in charge of game balance are just not analytical enough I myself want to keep asking questions as to what’s wrong, I try to go in depth and here’s what I think: The survivor team, HR’s in particular, are too powerful with weaponry The zombie team struggles not only because of the power of survivors, but also because of the faultiness in the game’s maps. Level design is very underrated in consideration to the game’s balance. What I think happened is that the people in charge of balance see the zombies struggling to due to level design, thought that it’s because zombies aren’t powerful enough, and buffed their damage significantly all without wanting to change the survivor’s weapons. Except for the swarmer, all zombies types have been buffed in R2D in comparison to the base stats of their R2DA counterparts I may not be as credible as GenZombs, but if you still like the idea of an interview I’m willing to speak about the matter. I’m in the R2D discord as “Renowned”

[@hugwhitedog8649]

Have you heard about Re:Infected? The game just open back months ago and it's have insane atmosphere and harsh gameplay

[@tokenghost2396]

I want to hear your opinions on Demise of Eden, while it's another Left 4 Dead clone style zombie game, it at least tries to do something with survivor & zombie abilities and character interactions. Which is the main thing I'd be interested in hearing your opinions on, as very few of these games actually try to do anything related to like, characters and stuff that Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2 had, and mainly hyperfocus on gameplay. The game itself is a passion project by its creator, Archeximus, and is a spin-off of the game Decaying Winter, so the game is kind of dead. And sadly, has no progression. Either way, I'd be interested to see what you'd think of how it does characters and interactions mainly.

[@reallybaduser_name]

r2dians aren't ready to accept that r2d 2014 was a better game than awakening

[@reboolder]

Facts Brother So True My Friend

[@trixzfr1315]

Good times

[@tlewy485]

TRUE

[@FrawstNeer]

I mean to be honest Humans vs Zombies as a whole series felt like a roller coaster. One that got old very, very fast. We can all agree that the best time to play it was indeed v3 where the game was peak with uninfection and extreme survival and other modes until it broke after a roblox update and homer couldnt fix it because he had college. Being someone who has played the Return of Humans vs Zombies I will say it is an overall good game that could use some balancing tweaks to both sides. I liked the boss fighting thing because i cant name another zombie game with that in it. It's a great game but it got abandoned by all the developers who worked on it. Plus there isnt enough content for either side. The point requirement increases between items can go from $500 to $1200 very fast. It would be better if there were more things to buy in between those items, and they could've also made it a bit less grindy to get the items you want. But talking about this game getting updates is like talking to a brick wall. It's sad to see a game with a bunch of potential go to waste honestly. It hurts thinking what the game couldve turned into compared to what it is now.

[@tonkwaa]

Look! It's the ROBLOX zombie game guy!!

[@Aneui]

Where are the resident evil clones

[@Breadian]

I’m Leon Kennedy.

[@DOCTO5]

​Weon stricteddy

[@RomanWasHere-]

I remember when Reason 2 Die shutdown, I didn't even know it was shutting down and I had just started to play it again after awhile, so after I had gotten back into it, it shutdown, unfortunate timing

[@kantoant]

It's joever Reddit 2 die bros, he made a video talking about how the absolute perfection of Reddit 2 die is fake. We ain't doing this Reddit, it's over for Reddit 2 die.

[@Breadian]

huh

[@siluda9255]

Touch grass please i can smell your onion smell from here

[@kantoant]

​@@siluda9255 count your Reddit day... White...

[@DOCTO5]

Its over..

[@akihiito]

I love zombie games I just wish every single one of them wasn't wave/round based. if we had more open wold survival ones take inspiration from dayz or rust it would be more refreshing

[@kevdale3593]

I feel like R2D just needs to work on its problems, its like got potential and I honestly find the game fun for a few hours until people vote shoot' em up town PVE, honestly spawn camping is very much a map issue and the moving of the spawns around in maps like boathouse singlehandedly fixes that, one thing though is that in some servers players just pick the same 3 maps leaving to you not really experiencing any variety, the addition of lower ranked guns like the Mac 10 and buffs to other ones like the python (its still kinda ass though) are nice improvements

[@Breadian]

I genuinely don’t like shoot em up town, I’d tether play cabin fever I find it so much more enjoyable

[@h_geen]

mind blowing innovation here: ability to buy weapons before your that specific level for an x% higher price increase

[@platypus908]

the undead.. i'm coming

[@Ammiad]

"I have to save the presidents daughter... You get it" No, I absolutely do not get it

[@Breadian]

I’m Leon Kennedy.

[@oddityurie3435]

I often play Criminality when it comes to have a zombie game experience on roblox through their Infection game mode, I would say its pretty great but it faces the same kind of problems as Mutation as well that there is not exactly a lot else to do other than survive as a human as long as possible though you can play different zombie types but you don't get to choose, but in hindsight Infection is at the end of the day just a secondary game mode for the main game of Criminality

[@Nicky654a]

The grind in ready 2 die and reason to die is so awful and people would always gaslight you that its actually not that bad even tho its so awful just because they played the game 24/7 it was easy for them

[@wearenumberone1111]

nice review the game has a lot of fundamental issues I am hoping that the new devs will be able to make the game better

[@filledoutfield1990]

i guess you could say Reason 2 Die has a REASON TOO DIE! huh? huh? get it....cause...no? alright.

[@jinbe_of_the_sea4577]

there was this game were u was a spec ops soldier jumping off a plane on an infected city in the night, rlly wish i could remember its name

[@Fakhritampan04]

"Zombies are underpowered" 21:47 Wait until you go against my maxed out kami zombie.

[@rustyzbone]

(Sorry i was really tired when i wrote this ignore grammar pls ) I’m gonna talk about the issues you listed in the video, my perspective and some of the things I agree and disagree with coming from a new-gen who has played more of R2D than R2DA before it’s shutdown. As well as the issues with the game as well as someone who has been in that community constantly active since the summer update for R2D. R2D has had one of the worst development cycles I've ever seen. From what I know the game was coded by four (three people? Idk about syn) people who are Ailbric, Syn, Arsa and Lucky. Ailbric didn’t know how to code for shit and was the manager which is why the game constantly released sporadically and buggy (summer update and a bit of the halloween update). As of now ownership has shifted to the other three(?) and since the announcement of R2D: beta which is an entire recode of R2D because of those issues arsa has been dealing with some family issues which i think are resolved now as well as lucky being sick at the moment but was carrying development for beta while arsa was gone. I’m not sure about syn but I do know that some debuggers have told me that dev is going good on beta and I trust their word. I bring all of this up because it led to the launch of a product which was unfinished and left out a lot of things which ruined the gameplay especially for new players. For starters the game is horribly unfinished, most of the campaigns that were promised are gone. The first campaign for R2D was to lay a foundation for future campaigns which doesn’t exist anymore because of development shifting to beta as well as no bosses existing atm. The lack of any content other than PVE and other servers has led this game into literally creating clans to play specifically battlestation servers and to sweat at just that rather than play the actual zombie part of the game because of all the content missing. The people who still do play this game consist of people playing to grind (PVE servers) or battlestation/ms players who play competitively. There’s nothing other than these two playstyles and survival and campaign are overshadowed because of how horribly everything is balanced in both of those gamemodes. 10 minutes of a round when half of the server is zombies is crazy and would be better if it was 5 minutes given how broken both sides of the two teams are. The zombie team is horrible to play whenever you join grind servers at the start of rounds and are stuck dealing with people spamming rpg and flamey or when you're forced onto it. You should be able to volunteer onto the zombie team before as a last resort forcing players onto it. What made the game less boring was when the zombie team had a variety of unique things forcing people to work together (ex: stalker grabbing people and bringing them to death or brute and elem electrifying) and now that most of that shit is gone there's a huge gap in that as well as levels not existing anymore. The lack of adding any of that led to so many boring rounds just waiting to be on the survivor team, especially being spawn killed before halloween update gave an incentive to actually try to hurt players. The fact that you can’t really get money from hurting people on pills also sucks too because that should give you more money to make them a target, anything to keep the players together to survive or kill if u know what i mean. Why I stuck around and played R2D and R2DA so long was the group effort and how chaotic the game can get. I loved driving around in trucks and buildings and I feel half of the fun is now gone with a lot of that stuff being taken away for band aid issues for lack of content. To get to a lot of that fun you need to grind grind grind and just use the next better weapon or a worse weapon to actually stand a chance. The stats between a low rank and high rank weapon are so fucking high that it makes using any weapon below a certain rank garbage and harder to play with, especially when some weapons are just better versions of others, and ESPECIALLY FOR MELEES. I think the grinding for this game is really bad and dedicated servers for gift hunting are just another band aid fix until Beta and honestly I think when beta does come out it’ll make the game actually replayable and not be rushed out the way it was before. I hope grinding is also fixed because I honest to god spent 8 hours grinding for a green gift which shouldn't even be a gameplay mechanic for something probably not worth my time. I saw a video response to this one (“Don't change R2D's identity”) which talked a lot about your video and how the “identity” of R2D being so unforgiving in some spots is the point and it shouldn't try to keep the average roblox players attention which I kinda agree with but the way he explains it sucks and I want to bring it up. R2D has always been a community game but when the game needs balancing for new players it should happen, spending 8 hours for green gift as a new gen or grinding for hours at a time to rank up sucks and just to get a better gun. EXP horribly needs an overhaul because you can make money so fast but not EXP, the party bonus tbh should give more than just 50 specifically for exp. I do think this game needs a rebalance to give newer players an advantage because playing on an alt I only could get to barely rank 18 before clocking out because of how boring and harsh it was on new players. More server types and specific rank requirements need a return like rank 30 only or beginner servers (like combat warriors, this does a good job at teaching the player before moving them to a bigger server) as well as boss servers and ps. There needs to be things that balance out the game as well as accommodate for all the new players because this isnt a 2014 game it’s r2d.

[@rustyzbone]

I think when beta comes out it won't be like R2D alpha, btw this is in alpha and it will introduce some important core features like bosses and specific servers and more zombies which sounds crazy but needed. I hope arsa n' lucky can fix the mess ailbric left for them and make R2D a more faithful less laggy and buggy revival.

[@NateDoesYT]

@@rustyzbone Honestly as a guy that once main/played Reason 2 Die for years on my original account, what you said is 100% the true, I had alot of fun playing this game, but looking back at it now, is depressing to say that this game should forever be forgotten cause of how dogshit the community and creator were, Reason 2 Die was one of those games that were so bad it was good to play, it was honestly fun just playing with the community/randoms, a thing I noticed that I couldn't get from other games I played, where you just play with random, in Roblox, you were able to make and meet friends easily, but because of how unbalance reason 2 die was, how elite and un-beginner friendly the game was, it was just impossible to enjoy the game, and ultimately it's downfall in my personal opinion is deserved but was so sad, because the game and even community had so much potential.

[@buttersbaldwin]

Honestly this is why I dig Micheal Zombies and Those who Remain so much.

[@Ethereal5667]

There’s this zombie game I personally liked called the apocalypse it has absolutely nothing to do with this video but I like the apocalypse

[@mrsusproductions]

26:42 anyone know how this game is called, i think its in retrostudio btw

[@RIP2UALL]

Michaels Zombies is pretty good, love that Nacht Dur Untoten copy map.

[@Sigkete]

Breadian can you review Criminality Infection? I think it fixes some of the fundamental problems of Roblox zombie games.

[@gabetmf]

not sure how the old reason 2 die campaign reward was(i only played PvE when i started) but near closing the campaign was just super generous giving 3k xp and 3k gold for surviving

[@sand_sand7304]

You are going to review Re:infected as your next video, there will be no augments!

[@wsgplp]

those who remain was my game dawg

[@badiskool9159]

Guts and blackpowder is a really unique type of zombie game and i really reccomend it

[@zedsdev1202]

theres also a zombie game that is underrated named call of mini zombies(roblox remake)

[@namity1305]

The "I have to save the president's daughter" made me cackle so hard

[@HugoRBLX]

Ready 2 Dies main objective is preservation. Changing it to have different goals is not healthy as it'll just split the community. Things like difficulty and long rounds have been staples of r2d since 2014. Despite it's flaws, the original was very successful and loved. Changing it won't fix anything. This is why some r2d devs chose to work on their own new zombie game to fix the flaws. But ready 2 die's objective is not that.

[@dre6607]

im still waiting for the the return of humans vs zombies video

[@Breadian]

My eyes are red rn kitten

[@magus4532]

1:32 YOO DEFENDERS OF ROBLOX MY KINGG

[@TWGatorade]

ah yes, zombie stories and dead slate, funny games, wishing i was playing splatoon

[@SketchySky_]

a zombie game I really goddamn enjoy to play is Contact A-888, survival wave based pve with awesome gunplay (btw made by the same creator that made Decaying Winter, Arch). Absolutely fun to play, please try it out.

[@OK-zo3cq]

That game is ass ass

[@Dr.Oofers]

@@OK-zo3cq How so?

[@OceanGraves]

Bread you should really play this creativity innovative horror game called ‘Vents’, I kept getting ads for and finally played it and was shocked. Greatest roblox horror game of 2024?

[@Breadian]

Rahhhh

[@DaKing08]

It still pains me to see how Mutation is still generally beginner-unfriendly even with a tutorial.

[@clashroyale-yl4ec]

Ultimate hiding strat in mutation is to use knives to climb up a corner then use wood planks and ammo to build a base

[@WarrezTheWolf]

The only Roblox zombie game that I ever stick with now is "Zombie Uprising."

[@n1ghtfa1l]

IMO undead coming is still flawed as hell Along side with annoying reload speed long enough for me to die and reincarnate to which I finally insert the mag for my mp5 The grind is grindier than ready to die you can do the quests sure, but the challenges like “25 survivor wins for 6k grey bricks” just makes me think more they turned the game into a grinder just so it can maintain a concurrent player base that just want better gear, but is hindered by the max level zombie mains that don’t like feeling inconvenience of being a survivor (yes I’ve met these people before just think of people who use cheesy tactics in fighting games or look up meta and there you go) And the fact that the charger is absurdly broken and honestly forces me to hold onto the boomstick just so I can shut them down before they do anything And actively break the charger even more with a shaking screen effect that stuns you for a whole decade long enough to take away all of your health in seconds is extremely annoying The charge doesn’t even have a wind up or anything you just activate the ability and you win it’s terrible The number of times I’ve gotten last standing only to be stopped by a zombie main using maxed out charger and due immediately is extremely annoying Sure zombies may be “fun” to play as but it’s not fun to fight against a max speed span jumping crawler Sure I see the attempt to make zombies fun to play but they’ve over fed the zombie side and left the human side with the leftovers and the bits that aren’t even that good

[@SIGMAOHIORIZZ88]

Aint reading allat

[@SIGMAOHIORIZZ88]

Happy for you tho

[@SIGMAOHIORIZZ88]

Or sad idk

[@Ray_Hollowpoint]

I should main charger 🤔 (I just started playing today, so I hope the game keeps improving)

[@mrjamesbecauseyesimanoob4224]

the zombie mains got to you bro (i'm a hazard main)

[@Yume2kki]

1:49 where did you get that clip lol?

[@dimitris5061]

Wst chapter 3 is released...Are you ready to review it?

[@Breadian]

No.

[@DOCTO5]

6:46 breadian? More like.. RIZZian 🤣🤣🤣