The Problem with The Suicide Squad

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@michaelgarcia5680
@michaelgarcia5680 22 күн бұрын
Don’t get me wrong I for one actually really like the Suicide Squad but WHY are they getting more attention than characters like Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and Superman lately?! I get it the second movie they made of them as good and all but I don’t think that justifies them being treated better than most of DC’s more iconic characters.
@themaskedcrusader4546
@themaskedcrusader4546 22 күн бұрын
DC uses it as an excuse to push Harley Quinn to the frontlines. I guarantee you if she weren't a member, they wouldn't be getting this much priority. Because no one outside of comic fans cares about characters like Deadshot, King shark or Captain Boomerang. And even Comic fans themselves didn't give two shits about Peacemaker before John Cena played him in that movie. All of a sudden, people started pretending Peacemaker is this frontline A-lister with the same recognition as characters like Batman now, when half of these people didn't even care enough to read about him.
@themaskedcrusader4546
@themaskedcrusader4546 19 күн бұрын
@@izzy-washere the suicide squad are a bunch of nobodies that no one gives a flying fuck about. They're so meaningless that their very premise is that they get sent on death missions and half the team dies because of the fact they serve no purpose beyond being the canon fodder nobodies they are. If DC wanted to adapt characters with little to no live action appearances, Deathstroke, Clayface, Question, The Titans, Green Arrow, the New Gods, Brainiac, John Stewart’s GL, Nightwing and Static Shock would all be infinitely better ideas.
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere 18 күн бұрын
You guys don't understand business. It's a huge deal if you mess up a Superman or Batman movie. You might have to wait a decade before audiences gives you another chance. D-list characters are literally expendable.
@getttthyped1582
@getttthyped1582 20 күн бұрын
You gotta talk about how the REAL black Adam movie should have been….
@PedroW33b
@PedroW33b 22 күн бұрын
I feel like the Suicide Squad works as a one-of thing. Like, outside of letting them do their one cool thing per canon, they shouldn't be more than occasional side-dressing. Like, while they were doing something similar to the James Gunn movie, the League or whatever should've been fighting Darkseid in Apokolips.
@themaskedcrusader4546
@themaskedcrusader4546 22 күн бұрын
I'm glad someone is finally saying it. The squad sucks and were never "cool". The characters in the Suicide Squad are so one note and unnecessary that their very premise is that they exist to go on suicide missions.
@yarc9
@yarc9 22 күн бұрын
king shark he used to villain for superboy back in the day
@themaskedcrusader4546
@themaskedcrusader4546 22 күн бұрын
@@yarc9 and he sucked so badly he had to be put on a team with other nobody D-listers to form team who's very precise is that they're so terrible they get sent on missions to die. Same thing applies to Deadshot who basically a less interesting version of Deathstroke and Hawkeye. Slade does the "mercenary" schtick infinitely superior and Hawkeye does the " never missing a shot " thing vastly better than Floyd ever has. So why does Deadshot or anyone in the Suicide Squad exist ? Simple: they're terrible meme characters who people overhype. Nothing more, nothing less.
@yarc9
@yarc9 22 күн бұрын
@@themaskedcrusader4546 the movie not canon to the James gun dcu i don’t think you have too worry about it cause it non canon to the dcu
@themaskedcrusader4546
@themaskedcrusader4546 22 күн бұрын
@@yarc9 that doesn't negate my point because all versions of the Squad suck. The only time they were remotely tolerable was the Batman: Assault On Arkham film.
@yarc9
@yarc9 22 күн бұрын
@@themaskedcrusader4546 he can use superman and have him interact with a random characters you never heard off
@SharpestSniper99
@SharpestSniper99 22 күн бұрын
The world needs to realize that this team’s overblown hype should’ve died the moment that rocksteady decided to make their most recent game a suicide squad game instead of Superman (you know, the most obvious and logical choice to move on to after Batman).
@xpscaling
@xpscaling 22 күн бұрын
I feel like the rise of the suicide squad on unironically came from the surprise, success from the movie as well as the subtle shifts that DC took in order to put them in a position where they could succeeded
@znation_official
@znation_official 20 күн бұрын
Totally Agreed here we got so many suicide squad project in the last decade from 2 dceu canon movies to dcamu animated movie and then currently this trash game
@gra9
@gra9 20 күн бұрын
Suicide squad is a cool concept but its being pushed to like justice league level which it shouldn't
@canned3880
@canned3880 21 күн бұрын
James just likes the character on the sidelines
@LumosTheromax
@LumosTheromax 21 күн бұрын
That’s fair but doesn’t mean they should be at the forefront of everything dc
@javonscruggs8233
@javonscruggs8233 21 күн бұрын
If dc wanted give focus to a team of villians they should have given more focused to the legion of doon who are actually cooler and can be a threat. You characters like Lex luther,Black adam,Sincstro,captain cold,and more who can be a real threat and can tell interesting stories with. Like imagine if the league is off doing something and the legion of doom have to say the universe thats way cooler and the legion all have more interesting and strong powersets that I can definitely believe they can be a threat to the justice league in the right circumstances.
@SilverWolf1135
@SilverWolf1135 20 күн бұрын
How do you like the Justice League Dark?
@LumosTheromax
@LumosTheromax 20 күн бұрын
They cool
@canned3880
@canned3880 21 күн бұрын
Idk man, as someone who only reads New Warriors from marvel and has been reading harley comics since like 2013 I just don't agree with your points. If you don't enjoy the movies that's fine but their success has shown that they are good movies
@canned3880
@canned3880 21 күн бұрын
Also I think you need to watch doom patrol
@LumosTheromax
@LumosTheromax 21 күн бұрын
Did you like her newest run where Harley was running around with multiversal powers lol Not a good run if you ask me
@themaskedcrusader4546
@themaskedcrusader4546 22 күн бұрын
do a video on red hood.
@rockinalice4034
@rockinalice4034 28 күн бұрын
Finally it has arrived why the Squad are terrible
@yarc9
@yarc9 22 күн бұрын
The suicide squad movie not canon and peacemaker season one not canon to the dcu
@yarc9
@yarc9 22 күн бұрын
The suicide squad not dcu canon
@LumosTheromax
@LumosTheromax 22 күн бұрын
It doesn’t matter imo
@SilverWolf1135
@SilverWolf1135 8 күн бұрын
If i understand you correct you dont think they should have created the Suicide Squad?
@LumosTheromax
@LumosTheromax 8 күн бұрын
I never said they shouldn’t have created them in The first place as a concept, moreso the movie shouldn’t be focused on until you have the actual figures from dc well done
@yarc9
@yarc9 22 күн бұрын
I love king shark glad he got more love
@bdr113080
@bdr113080 20 күн бұрын
I actually love The Suicide Squad. it was 10 times better than the first one. I think the reason why it was better was because I don’t think DC cares as much about that title as they do things like Batman and Superman and Justice league, etc. So James gun was left with more freedom. When they made the first suicide squad movie that was still like in the first five movies and they were really just Hands-on all of those projects way too much. Again, I kind of blame the fans this love for Zack Snyder never was a thing until they showed him the door. They didn’t show up to support Man of Steel, they completely made fun of Batman v Superman, so if you don’t support his first movie, and you turn his second movie into a running joke for a full year after it’s release with everyone, making fun of the Martha scene , and they’re already behind in their mind. Of course, they’re going to get rid of him. Honestly, I think it’s pointless to try to keep wasting time or energy and all this other stuff with the DC EU. There were some movies in it I really loved. There were some movies in it I liked, and there were some that were just terrible I thought. And sadly, I think that universe actually got better the older it got, but the foundation was so bad a lot of people were giving up. Yes Ezra Miller is a human being I get that, but overall that was a damn good movie and I felt like people were looking for reasons to not like it because some of that stuff was really reaching. I didn’t see a damn thing wrong with the Shazam movie, it wasn’t a top 10 comic book movie of all time, but it wasn’t near as bad as the fans acted like it was same thing with the Aquaman movie. Not a top 10 comic book movie but it was a lot of fun. I just think it’s become really trendy to hate every comic book movie now. It’s part of society now men don’t act like men anymore. I don’t even understand why people argue about politics in this way but at least it’s more understood but you’re not talking about laws that are affecting your life. You’re talking about comic book movies. If some of you have made up your mind that you’re just going to hate on every movie before it even comes out why waste your time with it anymore? Why do you get mad when other people like movies that you didn’t like? It’s entertainment. Getting butt hurt about what another person enjoys and their entertainment is number one on the beta mail to do list.
@LumosTheromax
@LumosTheromax 20 күн бұрын
It has nothing to do with Gunn exclusively The character are just lame as hell when we could be focusing on content that is actually valuable
@jeromerussey
@jeromerussey 19 күн бұрын
I like suicide squad, I've been reading comics longer than you been alive. So people do read suicide squad.
@LumosTheromax
@LumosTheromax 19 күн бұрын
I wouldn't assume my age but you might be older than me I've read old issues of suicide squad and tie ins to other stories they were mid at best When I say no one read suicide squad I mean a measure of people that actually matter Thats why they were sitting in the dark and were a joke for most of the history of task force X's history I hope you didn't think when I said no one reads suicide squad, I literally meant not a soul in history has read it After all I have LOL
@danielendless
@danielendless 21 күн бұрын
It's good to have lesser known characters rise in popularity but when you throw away your top tiers to do so, you're dooming yourself, especially in a time when they NEED good adaptations The newer generation has only ever been exposed to the movies. Where Batman is a stupid murderer, Superman is a brooding hopeless sad sack, Green Lantern dies in his first scene, Aquaman is a surfer dude bro
@jso416
@jso416 20 күн бұрын
The Suicide Squad was an absolute 💩 movie from start to finish. James Gunn tried way too hard to be edgy to the point that it was a complete cringe fest.
@chiefchubbychaser7021
@chiefchubbychaser7021 18 күн бұрын
Dogshit take. Not everyone likes heroes. Not everyone likes boy scouts with plot armor like Batman and superman. A movie only needs to be entertaining. What is this shit about morals? Characters dont have to be moral. A movie doesn't have to be a lesson about morals. Does Silence of the Lambs have a lot of morals? Harley Quinn is popular for the same reason Suicide Squad got popular. People like misfits. Guardians of the Galaxy is a PERFECT example of that.
@LumosTheromax
@LumosTheromax 18 күн бұрын
I’m not a huge fan of Superman or Batman either but despite that still better characters than the dogshit suicide squad Saying media shouldn’t give you morals is hilarious Silence of the lamb is full of morals lol Thanks for outing yourself as someone whose not intelligent enough to engage with media outside of funny memes LOL
@chiefchubbychaser7021
@chiefchubbychaser7021 18 күн бұрын
@@LumosTheromax I don't know what is funnier.. you thinking that "relevance" about subjective media is determined not by box office, but by YOUR opinion. Or, that as a human being, you look to MEDIA to get your morals. I think I'd be punching down to call you stupid. I'm not above it but honestly I just want to go there. No sport in it ya know. Have a good day little buddy. I'll even give your video a like. You need all the help you can get.
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