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@smithrobotics7087
@smithrobotics7087 2 жыл бұрын
I know see that the ultimate guide is quite useless. However, I do know that this doesn’t really mean anything in the entire Fnaf lore. But, when you pointed out how Jason was not marlas half brother, well I looked through the silver eyes and they are half siblings. They might not clearly say “ oh he’s my half brother”. At the end of chaptaper 4 page 131, Marla does say that her dad left, not Jason’s. And that she says “so Jason’s dad and our mom” . My apologies for rambling on for pretty much nothing, but good day sir and to however bothers reading this. :)
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
Hm ok
@joltyflare
@joltyflare 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, "Death lin elephant" was my favourite part of UCN
@retronoir289
@retronoir289 2 жыл бұрын
Same. It's pure gold.
@williamafton7967
@williamafton7967 2 жыл бұрын
William literally blew up in Fazbear's Frights,and in the games he was underground,so he can't both after in burntrap and blew up in a Fazbear's distribution center,and that alone should be enough evidence for notstitchlinegames to be proven
@marlfox1848
@marlfox1848 Жыл бұрын
#1. "The book shows the animatronics in the wrong order on stage." - Can't agree with the FNAF1 stage order being incorrect. I don't think its a matter of being incorrect, I think they were just added alphabetically. As somebody with a bit of OCD, I tend to list things alphabetically and the fact the stage is set as - Bonnie, Chica, Freddy - just seems like alphabetical placement. I don't think its supposed to be functioning like an early 2000's player guide to FNAF. #2. "The mechanic of killing you or crashing your game is separated between the original 11 animatronics and the additional 4 when this isn't true." - The FNAF2 section doesn't separate the function of killing you or crashing your game, it just says 11 of them are roaming the floor looking to kill you or crash your game, let alone the other four that AREN'T roaming the floor and are just nightmare fuel. The mechanic of 'looking to kill you or crash your game' is not being separated in this exposition, its just saying there are four others capable of doing this that aren't even on the floor as added micromanagement baggage. #3. "The game doesn't crash after the first cutscene." - FNAF3's beginning game cutscene crash I'm fairly certain is 100% correct. It's referring to the first cutscene that appears, the camera goes out, an ERR shows up and the crashes you back to beginning of the game. This only occurs when you enter the game for the first time. The use of the word 'crash' is probably referring to the coding of the game terminating the exe and relaunching after the crash. Just because the game doesn't -close- doesn't mean the game isn't crashing. Emulators are a great example of being able to 'crash' a game and restart it without closing the window. #4. "I don't remember if Bonnie can enter the hallway but the book doesn't even reference as such, let alone that Bonnie can attack from it." - Bonnie can most certainly enter the hallway and the mapping for the withered animatronics shows this. Any animatronic that enters the hallway can attack you directly as such. In this case, the UG is still correct. (Just because the path doesn't show a direct line to your office from the hallway doesn't mean it can't enter the office.) **Show the mapping if you're gonna say it's incorrect.** #5. The book clearly states they're theories, not facts. There are multiple 'purple guys' in this franchise with both Mike and William existing. And the book does a fairly solid job of not clearly pointing fingers saying "This is definitely the answer.." so this is design of keeping things vague is intended. #6. "30 years after FNAF1 closed." - The book states it took place 30 years after horrific events at freddy's (though to which specific events we're not sure). This is most likely because the original FNAF1 location was torched and set on fire. Even if you ignore any previously made theory, in FNAF3 you're jumpscared by burned versions of both FNAF1 and FNAF2 animatronics. The UG even goes out of its way to tell you this. The horrific events isn't the place shutting down, its the buildings being unexpectedly set ablaze. #7. "Phone guy doesn't explain its 30 years after FNAF1." - On night 2 of FNAF3, phone guy explains that he found 'vintage training tapes' from the old location. Most antique collectors and sellers consider something to be vintage once it's about 40 years old. While phone guy doesn't straight up say '30 years since' he does give you a rough reference period of time for how long its been. The mention of 'make sure nothing catches on fire!' on night 1 is a reference to what happened to the previous location. #8. "You can't reach the maintenance panel to avoid Phantom Foxy's Jumpscare." - There is literal video evidence this is possible. The problem is that they didn't flick the maintenance panel back up a second time to see if it would repel Phantom Foxy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpfbh4yFm9Cdd9U #9. "The stage 01 minigame refers to Spring Bonnie as Springtrap when Willam and the suit haven't fused yet." - Spring Bonnie and Fredbear both had purple additions to their costume, particularly a hat and bow for Fredbear and a bow for Spring Bonnie. The stage 01 minigame clearly shows Golden Freddy (as his hat is not purple) and William performing in Springtrap (as the suit has no purple bow and is similar to the suit he gets springlocked in). #10. "The Shadow animatronics aren't helping the kids." - First off, there's virtually little to nothing known about the Shadow Animatronics so saying they're some 'malevolent energy' that's manifested to lure children for Purple Guy BY Purple Guy based on FNAF6's audio of Henry referring to William's trap is absurd. You could just as easily argue that since the animatronics have free-roam and the error they encounter when trying to enter the backroom, William setup some kind of disruption device that would temporarily stun/disable them when they wandered by. If you wanted to expose a killer and had no way to communicate, you'd probably try guiding someone to the killer too. ----- I'm gonna stop here with this list as I'm completely disinterested from watching the rest of the video me at this point. 7 minutes in and every single point you've stated the book being incorrect about have been cherry-picked critiques on assembly and flat negligence of research. Every single point I corrected took less than 3 minutes of searching to find every answer for and the fact that you fail to show us some things like the pathing of the withered animatronics when making your case about its poor representation just comes off as whiny. You should always show ALL of your evidence and try to explain the issue in-depth when making any kind of video like this.
@stefanovallecillos6956
@stefanovallecillos6956 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, he lost me at Mrs. Afton dying first, this video is pretty flawed. Edit: Seems bias, one thing to keep in mind with these 'false books' is JUST BECAUSE IT CONTRADICTS WITH YOUR/OUR THEORIES DOES NOT MEAN IT IS FALSE, it may mean we've been looking at things all wrong.
@MarblesAreTasty
@MarblesAreTasty 4 ай бұрын
@@stefanovallecillos6956 he lost me when he said that mikevictim was confirmed.
@stefanovallecillos6956
@stefanovallecillos6956 4 ай бұрын
@@MarblesAreTasty Fair enough 😂 true as well though
@raelogan
@raelogan 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly see the Ultimate Guide as a more of a stepping stone towards finding better information. Like, this is a good book for getting someone interested in a deep dive, but it's not a definitive source of information. If anything, it's basically if Fazbear Entertainment tried to continue covering up the incidents by planting wrong details, which is honestly in-character for that company, lol.
@someoneandsomeone3251
@someoneandsomeone3251 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, many of the illustrations on the Fazbears Frights are pretty innacurate to the descriptions, (besides the one's you mentioned) and i mean a LOT OF mistakes. Dance with me - Kasey not doesn't have braids, Fetch - Greg not beign blond, Lonely Freddy - having a doll instead of the "Yarg Foxy" and Alec having brown hair instead of blond, Hide-and-Seek - Toby looks like a little kid when it's actually said several times that he's a high schooler. And the list goes oooon! (Even the covers of the books too i think.) The reason for this was because (for some reason) Scott commissioned LadyFiszi for the illustrations before the stories were given to her. (So it's likely that the descriptions of the characters changed over time as the stories were made) so Scott gave her vague descriptions on how the characters were looking or how the events looked. So LadyFiszi didn't have much of a choice to make some parts up herself and Scott just rolled with it. Sorry if i sounded rude or the many grammar errors but i thought to leave this comment.
@theanthony2799
@theanthony2799 2 жыл бұрын
I don't wanna talk about the plushtrap chaser. Really, does he look like an actual plushtrap or does he look just like a toy?
@someoneandsomeone3251
@someoneandsomeone3251 2 жыл бұрын
@@theanthony2799 it's described to have realistic teeths and eyes from what i remember (Oscar or one of his friends even touches one of his eyes it and its said to be jelly like i think) i remember there was also a spot where you could plug him to recharge it. The illustration however... just the classic plushtrap. An example of the artworks beign innacurate. I wouldn't even consider Raj and Isaac designs there.
@SayoriChan640
@SayoriChan640 2 жыл бұрын
2020: Read the guide book it confirms Michael's identity 2022: IT'S GARBAG, Don't trust it! I guess that's just the way it works
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
correct.
@Cr1ticA
@Cr1ticA 2 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong. It does have a lot of inconsistencies. But that doesn't mean everything in it is wrong. Because it is written by Scott Cawthon himself. But yeah, a lot of these inconsistencies are weird, dumb, and kinda hilarious.
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
sure, but considering how many inconsistencies there are, i dont think we can use this for evidence. at all.
@derrickdaniels3955
@derrickdaniels3955 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 Is it possible these inconsistencies were intentional?
@isabelortiz1230
@isabelortiz1230 2 жыл бұрын
@@derrickdaniels3955Why would it be?
@derrickdaniels3955
@derrickdaniels3955 2 жыл бұрын
@@isabelortiz1230I don't know just a feeling. It seems like Scott wouldn't get so much of this wrong considering he wrote the book.
@funtimefreddy4204
@funtimefreddy4204 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, anyone stupid enough to believe Vanny is tape girl needs to hear her voice… Like, voice acting is one of the few things that’s consistent throughout the games. And Tape Girl sounds NOTHING like Vanessa
@sky8ash
@sky8ash 2 жыл бұрын
I agree since Vanny is the Player from Help Wanted(HW) (One thing I will mention though, Freddy Fury has the Twin VR Sisters (Which would make sense as Tape Girl and Vanny(Player from HW))
@michaelraymon111
@michaelraymon111 Жыл бұрын
Lmao yes so consistent they changed william afton voice after two games. Very consistent
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 Жыл бұрын
Not really glitchtraps voice is William in a completely different form. Vanessa and tape girl are both humans who don’t change forms at all
@michaelraymon111
@michaelraymon111 Жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 considering that's not the reason the voice actors changed in real life it doesn't make sense
@funtimefreddy4204
@funtimefreddy4204 Жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 Lol I love how you dig this comment up from the ground and respond to it 4 months later 😂
@whoce2821
@whoce2821 2 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree with your opinion about StitchlineGames. When the leaks of the book first came out me and one of my friends were both freaking out about the idea that it might be canon. While I can't say it is as I haven't read the book myself, he did tell me it's a possibility. Heck, it hurts even further for me because I love writing and storytelling, so seeing the FNaF story even have a possibility of turning out like that just... it doesn't feel well.
@whoce2821
@whoce2821 2 жыл бұрын
(Btw, by "the book" I'm referring to Lally's Game. Just pointing that out in case I haven't made it clear enough in the comment.)
@ShadowLibra
@ShadowLibra 2 жыл бұрын
@@whoce2821 I've read Frailty (the story people say confirms Stitchline Games) and honestly it didn't convince me lol
@KTWhatsup
@KTWhatsup 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowLibra is it even canon to Fazbear Frights alone?
@ShadowLibra
@ShadowLibra 2 жыл бұрын
@@KTWhatsup I doubt it, it's definitely in the games though
@RogelioALoya
@RogelioALoya 2 жыл бұрын
What’s stitch line games
@MontyMoleLoreMaster
@MontyMoleLoreMaster 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of that Mario Encyclopedia released back in 2015 which used stuff from non-official sources or stated stuff that was flat out wrong.
@mcnuggwtscreations
@mcnuggwtscreations 2 жыл бұрын
Life lesson of Today: Don't buy The Ultimate Guide.
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@buggman6086
@buggman6086 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the ultimate guide ):
@Thunderstorm789
@Thunderstorm789 2 жыл бұрын
Too late lol
@NbLumineIzHere
@NbLumineIzHere 2 жыл бұрын
Welp, too late for me ig🤷
@Emperor-Z
@Emperor-Z 2 жыл бұрын
It had funni pictures.... :c
@dtimetyp7062
@dtimetyp7062 2 жыл бұрын
7:34 it says he follows the same rules. and these rules are: slowly coming out of the curtain and then running to your office. the hallways being swapped is at least to me not important because it is still the same mechanic and in both games you dont need to watch the hallway cam. foxy can run down the hallway even if you are not watching
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough I guess
@Riku70X
@Riku70X Жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 Dude why are all of your replies so backhanded? You were literally just straight up incorrect about how fnaf 1 Foxy works and you were rightly corrected about it and your response is "I GUESS you're kinda right about it" like come on. The book is shit but don't be a dick to commenters who went out of their way to prove that you also made a couple mistakes.
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 Жыл бұрын
Lmao bruh
@Riku70X
@Riku70X Жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 ok
@mentalman4808
@mentalman4808 Жыл бұрын
I know this is a really old video, but I'd like to leave my two cents. A lot of the mistakes you found here range from nitpicky to dumb, but not... book break? (Is that the term im going with?) Hell, some of the mistakes you presented here AREN'T EVEN MISTAKES. You say there are 50 mistakes, which is (kinda) true, but to treat every single one of those mistakes and inconsistences equally is just kinda stupid in my opinion. While yes, this book might not be ENTIRELY reliable, I don't think we should just entirely throw it out either.
@RickyMouse421
@RickyMouse421 2 жыл бұрын
honestly, my main problem is that the pages just fall out too fast I'm now on book 10... out of 10 books 9 so far have completely fallen apart, EVERY MONTH.
@doomtitan1172
@doomtitan1172 Жыл бұрын
You mean that the books is destroyed? The heck!?
@RickyMouse421
@RickyMouse421 Жыл бұрын
@@doomtitan1172 yes almost all of the pages fall out within a few months
@d8d7
@d8d7 2 жыл бұрын
Before I Even watch this, I Can tell that the title is facts. Especially when alot of people use it to prove stichline games (Which is a Madeup interpretation of what it was saying) And stuff like MCI85, When it has many inconstintices.
@Jazz_bonez85
@Jazz_bonez85 2 жыл бұрын
I just don't understand how or why it could be so wrong? Like.... just... was there no editor? Was it made like that on purpose? Did Scott just.. not care about major mistakes made in the book? Just. Why?
@someoneandsomeone3251
@someoneandsomeone3251 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, many of the illustrations on the Fazbears Frights are pretty innacurate to the descriptions, (besides the ones you mentioned) and i mean a LOT OF mistakes. Dance with me - Kasey not doesn't have braids, Fetch - Greg not beign blond, Lonely Freddy - having a doll instead of the "Yarg Foxy" and Alec having brown hair instead of blond, Hide-and-Seek - Toby looks like a little kid when it's actually said several times that he's a high schooler. And the list goes oooon! (Even the covers of the books too i think. Or at least the Puppet Carver cover) The reason for this was because (for some reason) Scott commissioned LadyFiszi for the illustrations before the stories were given to her. (So it's likely that the descriptions of the characters changed over time as the stories were made) so Scott gave her vague descriptions on how the characters were looking or how the events looked. So LadyFiszi didn't have much of a choice to make some parts up herself and Scott just rolled with it. Sorry if i sounded rude or the many grammar errors but i thought to point this out.
@elliotnutella8044
@elliotnutella8044 2 жыл бұрын
I hate, and I mean HATE, when people use The Ultimate Guide as evidence for Stitchline Games.
@jp-toaster
@jp-toaster 2 жыл бұрын
Same, it's so dumb
@mcnuggwtscreations
@mcnuggwtscreations 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@juliabp6057
@juliabp6057 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve already seen people using the TUG to say MCI85 is canon to the games. I mean, I consider both timelines, but the book doesn’t even say about the date of the incident in the games. TUG just referenced the MCI year from the Novels.
@Jedi-ge6lr
@Jedi-ge6lr 2 жыл бұрын
@@juliabp6057 I do believe that theory, but I'd rather not use something full of misconceptions and misinformation to proof my point.
@larrymantic2635
@larrymantic2635 Жыл бұрын
Dang, Mr. Hippo do be treating everyone to extended death lin Elephants.
@disiant7800
@disiant7800 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I’ve been a FNAF fan since the first game.I’ve been having trouble keeping up with all the more newer stuff, but I’ve been able to get a basic grasp on stuff remnant, and I manage to somewhat keep up with games. The problem is that I have a poor grasp on the novels and also certain elements of the newer games. After hearing about it for the first time in this video, I was wondering what is Stitchline Games?
@KikiCatMeow
@KikiCatMeow 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I’ve never heard of Stitchline Games before. Maybe it’s got something to do with the stitchwraith? Idk
@juliabp6057
@juliabp6057 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the theory that the Stitchwraith Stingers happens in the game timeline, which is debunked by the Fazbear’s Frights itself.
@Xenowsky
@Xenowsky 2 жыл бұрын
Well there is 1 thing I know. That Freddy Introduction in FNaF 1 uses Bonnie image in one of the cameras. It was in the freddy files 1 and the updated one. I don't want to buy this thing to check it out.
@Elffhunter457
@Elffhunter457 Жыл бұрын
Most of the chapters in the ultimate guide aren't just going on what we know is true or false as of now, but rather on what info and theories the fandom as a whole had and thought at the time of that game coming out. That's why most of the info in it feel, so wrong and contradictory.
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 Жыл бұрын
the issue, though, is not only does it mention information from later games, like mentioning curse of dreadbear and william afton in the fnaf 1 section, but they also removed the Miketrap section
@Elffhunter457
@Elffhunter457 Жыл бұрын
3 things: 1. HOLY CRAP!!! I DIDN'T NOT EXPECT ANYONE TO REPLY THAT FAST!!!! 2. yeah, most things in the UG Just come from the beginning of the Fandom perspective, AND the current Fandom perspective. The UG has info in the "Lore and Theories" section's from how the fandom was thinking when that information/game had just come out. As well as info from how the fandom is currently thinking about certain topics. Like Miketrap of course we know NOW that Springtrap and Michael are 2 different people, but when FNAF SL custom night first came out we didn't know for sure. The ultimate guide isn't ment for people who already know everything about current Fnaf and it's fandom, Its ment for people who are new to the franchise and need to be caught up to the current lore AND the history of theorizing in the community. 3. Even though I don't agree on 100% agree on some of the ideas you come up with or the stuff you theorize about, I still love you channel and to get another perspective on some things. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!👍
@Elffhunter457
@Elffhunter457 Жыл бұрын
Also this isn't to say there isn't some big issues like game mechanics being wrong or character placement mixed up or quotes being missed stated. But I guess everything can't be perfect.😅
@YuutaTogashi0707
@YuutaTogashi0707 Жыл бұрын
The Death lin elephant mistake was the first I found looking at random pages It made me laugh
@Star_Sketch34
@Star_Sketch34 Жыл бұрын
Same lol
@nixus1909
@nixus1909 Жыл бұрын
“In ultimate custom night it’s revealed that Shadow Freddy is made up of William’s negative emotions” uhh…huh? Where was that in UCN? Also Henry’s speech in FNaF 6 doesn’t confirm anything, especially that William put all the spirits together. He simply speaks too vaguely. Also for the Sister Location Custom Night page, it doesn’t say that Funtime Foxy works the same as Foxy in FNaF 1, it says that “they both follow the same rules” very key distinction that you failed to point out.
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 Жыл бұрын
Nightmare in the files of fnaf 4 is named Shadow Freddy and Noghtmare in UCN says “I am your wickedness made of flesh” In the insanity ending he refers to Shadow Freddy from follow me as a trap, meaning he was working with William.
@nixus1909
@nixus1909 Жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 You don’t know he was referring to the FNaF 3 minigame lmao that’s just speculation. Also no Nightmare is clearly not Shadow Freddy when Scott made FNaF 4 it was supposed to be all in a child’s dream, he didn’t have FNaF 6 planned out at that point. Also “confirmed in UCN” my ass. You jump to conclusions very quickly and act like things are 100% confirmed when at the end of the day they’re just theories with evidence. We could be playing as Mike in FNaF 4, in fact we probably are and a lot of stuff is pointing to it, but at the same time we know Nightmares did really exist so it could have been either one. It isn’t 100% confirmed.
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 Жыл бұрын
Bro nightmare is literally named shadow Freddy, what more do you want, just because he didn’t plan fnaf 6 doesn’t mean shadow Freddy was planned. Like he literally existed already. And the entire insanity ending is discussing the follow me Minigames, it’s not speculation, just pay attention to what he says
@nixus1909
@nixus1909 Жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 It is speculation. “He set some kind of trap” is very vague, thus you are speculating. Just because something is likely to happen doesn’t mean it’s 100% fact. Not to mention that you said all of this was confirmed in Ultimate Custom Night which as I said isn’t true. And you misreading what the book said about Funtime Foxy working the same as he did in FNaF 1, which is not actually what it said. I find it funny that you made a video about all the inaccuracies of this book when you are saying inaccurate things as well.
@nixus1909
@nixus1909 Жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 And to address your point about Shadow Freddy, it’s simple. Before FNaF 4 he was supposed to be one thing, but then Scott changed it because people didn’t like dream theory. Just like the empty room in CC’s house originally was just a room to show a Mangled toy (to symbolize Mangle in CC’s dream) but then was changed to Elizabeth’s room. Unless you’re implying that Scott would go back and change file names to fit the story that he was now telling the I don’t know what to tell you.
@juliabp6057
@juliabp6057 2 жыл бұрын
Some time ago, I used TUG to support some accurate theories. But nowadays, I know this book is full of inconsistencies.
@jp-toaster
@jp-toaster 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@T.O.F.G
@T.O.F.G 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the ultimate guide lol
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
well its still bad
@T.O.F.G
@T.O.F.G 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 ok it is but chill lol
@EvyDevy
@EvyDevy 2 жыл бұрын
Just to let you know, Shadow Freddy in FNaF 2 can't crash your game. It was a common rumor. Shadow Bonnie does though.
@Uzi6855
@Uzi6855 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that he thinks the fnaf 1 map shows golden freddy with a puple hat and not a black one is something wrong with the book is STUIPID
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
I used number 1 for two smaller inconsistencies that really could mean nothing. thats why theyre not separate details. But theyre still inconsistencies. Golden Freddy doesnt have a purple hat. so the book is still wrong there
@Uzi6855
@Uzi6855 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 OH AND if it was wrong why did you use it for a theory back when it came out.
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
@@Uzi6855 it’s funny how you just straight up ignored what I said at the beginning of the video. WHEN IT FIRST CAME OUT, I TRUSTED IT.
@Uzi6855
@Uzi6855 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 That doesnt excuse you from making bad points, and Shadow freddy isnt imporant to the lore scott didnt think the lore though until SISTER LOCATION.
@isabelortiz1230
@isabelortiz1230 Жыл бұрын
3:49 Interestingly, in the files of fnaf hw you can find pages of the freddy files (from fnaf 2) and right in that game withered bonnie can teleport from the hallway to the office (although if the detail of Bonnie entering from the hallway in the ultimate guide originated there and did not appear in the other freddy files, it could be the other way around)
@Thorumsu
@Thorumsu 2 жыл бұрын
20:25 Fredbear is the main antagonist of FNF2 too!
@Dr.spider1983
@Dr.spider1983 2 жыл бұрын
Stitch-line games is LITERALLY impossible, because William BLEW UP so that erases burntrap, period. Simple. Disproven. Move on with ur day.
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
apparently thats explained in the tales epilogue, but idk
@juliabp6057
@juliabp6057 2 жыл бұрын
And also, FNAF 6 fire in the FF’s happened before 2000’s, not in 2023 like in the games.
@juliabp6057
@juliabp6057 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcnuggwtscreations I know that. I was talking about this same event in the FF’s timeline.
@mcnuggwtscreations
@mcnuggwtscreations 2 жыл бұрын
@@juliabp6057 Sorry about that, I never red any of The Fazbear's Frights books
@juliabp6057
@juliabp6057 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcnuggwtscreations no problem.
@Dumbo-zx7oc
@Dumbo-zx7oc 2 жыл бұрын
This just makes the lore even more confusing lol
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
No it doesn’t?
@pirateking7672
@pirateking7672 2 жыл бұрын
yeah if the book is canon it really does contradict the lore lmao
@Dumbo-zx7oc
@Dumbo-zx7oc 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 it’s a joke lol
@Im_Stvp1d
@Im_Stvp1d 8 ай бұрын
THE BOOK WAS APPROVED BY CAWTHON-not only that but it said charlie SURVIVED. It followed the novels and everything
@Thecorruptedentity
@Thecorruptedentity 2 жыл бұрын
do you watch Game Theory
@joshuavis2736
@joshuavis2736 2 жыл бұрын
Withered Bonnie does appear in the hallway in fnaf 2 however im pretty sure he can’t go from there. I think it’s like you chica, she goes in the hallway but can only appear through the vent
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
yep. But this book states he can attack from the hallway, and on the mapping of the withereds movements theres no mentioned of Withered Bonnie going in the hallway at all
@joshuavis2736
@joshuavis2736 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 man this is funny. Not only is it inconsistent with the game. But it’s inconsistent about being inconsistent. I thought this was supposed to be the ultimate guide. Thanks for highlighting all of these weird issues
@AshuraGoneReal29
@AshuraGoneReal29 2 жыл бұрын
This only has me scared for the FNaF SB, i wonder if it will also have incorrect information
@SUSpiciousD0G
@SUSpiciousD0G 2 жыл бұрын
Well for charlotte being the first victim there is more evidence that just the book like : Ucn : withered chica voice line ( I was the first i have seen everything) It’s even referenced in fnaf sb in the princess tale arcade
@juliabp6057
@juliabp6057 2 жыл бұрын
Susie was the first victim of the MCI, but Charlotte died before everyone, even before the crying child (as is implied in Midnight Motorist and the real Jake) and Elizabeth (as the Funtimes were created only after the missing children incident).
@SUSpiciousD0G
@SUSpiciousD0G 2 жыл бұрын
@@juliabp6057 ok thanks
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
My point was just the the ultimate guide doesn’t prove it
@ShadowLibra
@ShadowLibra 2 жыл бұрын
I will too continue to stand by your beliefs if Stitchline Games ends up true
@derrickdaniels3955
@derrickdaniels3955 2 жыл бұрын
What is Stitchline games?
@ShadowLibra
@ShadowLibra 2 жыл бұрын
@@derrickdaniels3955 it's the theory that the Fazbear Frights stories happen in the games timeline
@derrickdaniels3955
@derrickdaniels3955 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowLibra ah
@grintheartist647
@grintheartist647 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question, this isn’t relevant to the video but I was arguing with someone saying the Fazbear Frights books are bad because they aren’t relevant to the universe of FNaF. My overall argument is that these stories are just myths and horror stories in this universe with varying degrees of truth or tie in to the story of the games, I say this is relevant because in Help Wanted was about Fazbear Entertainment being upset at the stories and rumors made by the FNaF games. Now the question is based on your knowledge, is this stuff happening in universe, are they canon to the games, or are they just myths?
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
most likely, none. theyre most likely just taking place in a different universe
@transmission5694
@transmission5694 2 жыл бұрын
i think Scott said something like that when explaining the tie in with the novels, yet i might be wrong about that.
@jp-toaster
@jp-toaster 2 жыл бұрын
5:04 LOL
@rwqfsfasxc4668
@rwqfsfasxc4668 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone made a video about the mistakes in this dogshit book lmao. Also i know this is not really a mistake but i still find it odd for some reason Shadow Mangle's mugshot in the inventory section is just "Image not found". Guess they were to lazy to find a picture...
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@jp-toaster
@jp-toaster 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of the images are look pretty s**t and inconsistent, not really a big problem, but it shows how effort went into the making of this book Like the SpringBonnie picture looks terrible, they couldn't dedicate some time to at least make a nice pose for it? Like fans made countless SpringBonnie renders that look way better than that, but an official guide that is the "Ultimate" version can't?
@_Micah_Bell
@_Micah_Bell 8 ай бұрын
even though there is problems in it. i still think its pretty enjoyable just to read casually
@Sean-qg3gg
@Sean-qg3gg Жыл бұрын
A bunch of minute details wrong, sure. But the lore can be right. Michael helping William is entirely possible. The Ella doll being reproduced could have happened when Fazbear Entertainment LLC made light of situations, and I believe she even appears on an arcade cabinet in Security Breach. William is technically possessing the Spring Bonnie suit, it’s just not in the paranormal sense. The first 4 FNAF games are made by Steve. Michael simultaneously is and isn’t the protagonist of FNAF 4. In the game, we play as The Crying Child. In the events, it would actually be Michael. In Steve’s games, FNAF 2’s paycheck would be off on the date since it is Michael on his quest. Shadow Freddy would be helpful for the dead kids in FNAF 3 because their spirits could be getting freed, and they take vengeance on William. Shadow Bonnie might not be mentioned to be attacking us for our remnant, but for the remnant we obtained. Special Delivery is a giant remnant factory, similar to the Funtime animatronics. If Shadow Bonnie can yoink the remnant we got from the robots that were trying to take our remnant, it would prevent the robot that eventually kills us from getting loads of remnant. Lastly, you mentioned Nightmarionne with male pronouns. The voice is masculine, but the puppet is still entirely a girl.
@skrub_king
@skrub_king 2 жыл бұрын
17:23 Dedede's fishing hole 🤔
@JacksJunk
@JacksJunk 2 жыл бұрын
DeeDee's *Fisting* Hole
@ruxoshmhammad8186
@ruxoshmhammad8186 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have that book and i like it than any other fnaf book because it has all the things we theorized (not including sb) and i think scott must have some respect for realesing this book 📖 and I don’t care what does this guy says i still like the ultimate guide book
@Liawayyt
@Liawayyt Жыл бұрын
You don't play as Michael in FNAF 4 you play as his brother the crying child Michael was the one with the fox mask
@Dangezin_
@Dangezin_ Жыл бұрын
In fact, we control both, crying child in coma and Michael AFTON on fnaf 1 having nightmares (survival logbook confirm this)
@ethanbullock2841
@ethanbullock2841 2 жыл бұрын
The Logbook confirms that Evan, the Crying Child, is the MC of FNAF 4, "The Party was for you" "The party was for me" you find both Cassidy and Evan talking to each other, confirmed by the number graph. Michael Afton is the brother who pranks the Crying child in the Foxy Mask.
@ethanbullock2841
@ethanbullock2841 2 жыл бұрын
What is your name? You plug in the letters on the chart, NO ANSWER gives Mike. One gives Evan, one gives Cassidy.
@Rose_Haw
@Rose_Haw Жыл бұрын
They mean the nightmare fredbear that Mike drew in the book
@JTRogue151
@JTRogue151 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly Foxy in fnaf one didn't need to be viewed in the hallway to trigger him killing the player he was on a timer and eventually he'd kill you whether you looked or not if you didn't have the door down at the end of the countdown looking just made it occur immediately and it was a valid strategy to not look to conserve power lost from him beating the door small discrepancy but totally agree with the rest this book fails the fandom
@maxwellattacks6645
@maxwellattacks6645 Жыл бұрын
This book is trustable but Scott isn't a writer and has not fully planned out an entire story just a skeleton of one.
@WNatic
@WNatic 2 жыл бұрын
This book have more errors than i imagine
@funtimefreddy4204
@funtimefreddy4204 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope TUG isn’t canon
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
canon isnt the right word. its not canon lmao
@nariemmons1753
@nariemmons1753 2 жыл бұрын
cannon*
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
@@nariemmons1753 you’re wrong tho lol, the word is canon. Cannon is a different word
@zouipl6181
@zouipl6181 Жыл бұрын
You won my attention by Chica's placement
@gimmiekiwi
@gimmiekiwi Жыл бұрын
Just bought the book and saw this video, waiting for it to arrive now and hoping its atleast COOL
@neasulavuori4955
@neasulavuori4955 Жыл бұрын
Still better then the character encyclopedia
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 Жыл бұрын
It’s really not
@banobobot
@banobobot 3 ай бұрын
0:37 tbh though, that in it of itself is unconfirmed and is based on zero evidence. I’m not even sure how or why Mrs. Afton was ever relevant.
@blazekitsune
@blazekitsune 2 жыл бұрын
Jason is Marla’s Half Brother they have different dads
@reluctant_follower9131
@reluctant_follower9131 2 жыл бұрын
11:41 I had a whole seizure while trying to read that sentence.
@alymatronicdeeare8265
@alymatronicdeeare8265 Жыл бұрын
I keep coming back for death Lin elephant.
@bowserk.44
@bowserk.44 2 жыл бұрын
I was recording playthroughs of fnaf and the first game I was having trouble and tried relying on the other versions before it, and I just went to wiki
@scrapywrappy6758
@scrapywrappy6758 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who believes StitchLineGames TUG is shit
@Competitive_Bid_
@Competitive_Bid_ 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you believe it?
@scrapywrappy6758
@scrapywrappy6758 2 жыл бұрын
@@Competitive_Bid_ Because I want to
@Goobsterwill
@Goobsterwill 2 жыл бұрын
This feels like a ratio
@odasiam6342
@odasiam6342 Жыл бұрын
Him not being listed as being the player in fnaf 4 confirms its the crying child
@Ultimate6489
@Ultimate6489 2 жыл бұрын
20:27 Also it says that Fredbear appeared in Ultimate*ly* Custom night (way to mispronounce my name)
@michaelliggett1622
@michaelliggett1622 2 жыл бұрын
He is if you use a death coin on golden freddy fredbear shows up to jumpscare you
@Ultimate6489
@Ultimate6489 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelliggett1622 No i know he is in Ultimate Custom Night It was that they misspronaunced Ultimate
@edrick106
@edrick106 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why Scott allows this to happen , clearly he isn’t one the writing these guides , so why doesn’t he takes matters into his own hands and actually writes a ultimate guide himself ? Instead it seems he’s just asking for someone who barely knows about Fnaf to write it.
@agonyremnanttrap6789
@agonyremnanttrap6789 2 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree. TUG is very unreliable, it's a trashed book, and it's *NOT* the Ultimate God lol!
@rafaelrivera7594
@rafaelrivera7594 2 жыл бұрын
You do know that you play as the crying child in fnaf 4 right?
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
You do not.
@rafaelrivera7594
@rafaelrivera7594 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 what do you mean
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKTFoalufK-emKM
@macleanfamily3933
@macleanfamily3933 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 bad lol
@Artogon
@Artogon Жыл бұрын
With what you sure I can definitely agree that the ultimate guide is not reliable but he’s reliable just as a guide for playing the game themselves
@CharlieWilson1987
@CharlieWilson1987 Жыл бұрын
There are SO many mistakes. The character inventory is chock full of mistakes. JJ’s profile shows balloon boy, it said nightmarionne was in FNAF AR, FNAF 1’s map has chica and Freddy in the wrong way round golden Freddy has a purple hat, the inventory was missing characters who existed at that time. I’m kinda sad how wrong it is.
@jp-toaster
@jp-toaster 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Loved seeing you dunk on this book lol
@OleksiyAntonkin
@OleksiyAntonkin 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm being a bit dumb here, but what are the Stitchline games?
@sussybaka3878
@sussybaka3878 2 жыл бұрын
Stitchwraith storyline from fazbear frights being canon to the games.
@Ilikebakconn2
@Ilikebakconn2 2 жыл бұрын
I’m still gonna buy it to compare it with the Freddy files updated edition
@Songal18
@Songal18 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like whoever wrote this was basically copying and pasting from other Guide books and adding the new information and forgetting to take out debunked information, or contradicting it.
@retronoir289
@retronoir289 2 жыл бұрын
T - Terrible U - Unreliable G - Garbage
@jp-toaster
@jp-toaster 2 жыл бұрын
Y E S
@ruben0222
@ruben0222 Жыл бұрын
Okay so. I’m absolutely clueless about everything on Curse of Dreadbear because I didn’t know it had any lore implications until he said something about it. Can anyone spare me a quick rundown?
@eliescobis9922
@eliescobis9922 2 жыл бұрын
6:25 where did you get that info from?
@eliescobis9922
@eliescobis9922 2 жыл бұрын
where do you guys get that info about shadows being remnant anyways? from what books? it's clearly not info from the games
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
where did i get that info from? In the video i literally said: *Ultimate Custom Night* remnant is not the same thing as negative emotions. Remnant is specifically melted haunted metal.
@eliescobis9922
@eliescobis9922 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 there's literary no mention of remnant in UCN tho And shadow freddy isn't even in that game
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
@@eliescobis9922 bruh Remnant ISNT agony and Nightmare IS Shadow Freddy
@Rose_Haw
@Rose_Haw Жыл бұрын
​@@eliescobis9922 they probably meant the "I am your wickedness made of flesh" line from UCN
@kisskkiiss
@kisskkiiss Жыл бұрын
this book feels like a troll
@Jel-ko2eu
@Jel-ko2eu 5 ай бұрын
Bro I was excited for this book but when I actually read it I was disappointed. Extremely disappointed
@TheGeladoo
@TheGeladoo Жыл бұрын
This just feels like a list of nitpicks, you should probably structure your video by importance and not book order because like 4 minutes in and nothing of real importance has been brought up yet Edit: you bring up like one good point each 5 minutes, I don't want to sit through a video just filled with nitpicks and a few good observations 💀
@sussybaka3878
@sussybaka3878 2 жыл бұрын
Hey atleast thinking stitchlinegames is canon is 100000 times better than thinking that glitchtrap isn't the real William and just a clone or that golden freddy isn't the princess.
@d8d7
@d8d7 2 жыл бұрын
All of those claims are stupid, Including Stichline games
@derrickdaniels3955
@derrickdaniels3955 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Glitchtrap being an AI clone of William was established and the files for the Princess refer to her as Cassidy aka Golden Freddy until was removed from the game
@sussybaka3878
@sussybaka3878 2 жыл бұрын
@@derrickdaniels3955 no it wasn't established.
@sussybaka3878
@sussybaka3878 2 жыл бұрын
@Roxanne Wolf wait I'm so confused of what we're talking about
@isabelortiz1230
@isabelortiz1230 2 жыл бұрын
The princess is vanessa
@dumbly-stupid
@dumbly-stupid 2 жыл бұрын
YOOOOO someone else who thinks the Fredbear expressions are good for thumbnails
@TeaTupcake247
@TeaTupcake247 Жыл бұрын
um I looked at it and it was made by Scott Cawthon
@navyshark2286
@navyshark2286 2 жыл бұрын
Pov the Bible
@MinMin4theWinWin
@MinMin4theWinWin 2 жыл бұрын
Ynow, I'm quite surprised that you didn't mention page 282!
@brizzlethestitcher2148
@brizzlethestitcher2148 Жыл бұрын
With how blatantly obvious a lot of these mistakes are, I can't help but wonder if they might be intentional...
@ShadowLibra
@ShadowLibra 2 жыл бұрын
prepare to shatter my heart
@wutrudoin5431
@wutrudoin5431 2 жыл бұрын
It also says that Shadow Freddy is in FNaF FFPS.
@edrick106
@edrick106 2 жыл бұрын
That is kinda correct because when you open the game for the first time he shows up in the minigame
@andreearebeccachialda6452
@andreearebeccachialda6452 Жыл бұрын
I like this book even tho it isint real information
@antimonyparanoia
@antimonyparanoia Жыл бұрын
I don't like how mean you are to the casual readers confused by the book. Of course they are confused FNAF lore is confusing, that's FNAF's fault not the reader's/ player's/ watcher's/ whatever
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely, no idea what you’re talking about
@Rose_Haw
@Rose_Haw Жыл бұрын
Seems a bit harsh
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 Жыл бұрын
against a book, who cares lmao
@Rose_Haw
@Rose_Haw Жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 I guess? It's not total garbage, but it probably should not really be used as the base of a theory.
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 Жыл бұрын
@@Rose_Haw yes, and that is the point of the video
@Rose_Haw
@Rose_Haw Жыл бұрын
@@ImpulseEvan37 I know.
@skydoesstuff7129
@skydoesstuff7129 10 ай бұрын
If I get it just for help for the game, is that fine?
@sandwhich395
@sandwhich395 2 жыл бұрын
Fredbear is in fnf2 a serial that wasn’t official and he is a indie game character guest it’s a joke
@_MECHA_
@_MECHA_ Жыл бұрын
I love the ultimate guide
@agentboi4794
@agentboi4794 Жыл бұрын
Hyper Droid video go brrrrr
@Doctor_Hyde
@Doctor_Hyde 2 жыл бұрын
this book is a clown fiesta
@krio1267
@krio1267 2 жыл бұрын
i saw it in my local mall ( IMAGO ) lmfao
@meredithmorgan3383
@meredithmorgan3383 Жыл бұрын
Mrs afton didn't die
@ozby11
@ozby11 Жыл бұрын
Proof?
@bobantrajanov9392
@bobantrajanov9392 2 жыл бұрын
I respect your Different opinion 😉
@ImpulseEvan37
@ImpulseEvan37 2 жыл бұрын
Except it’s not an opinion?
@UNCONTROLLABLEOfficial502
@UNCONTROLLABLEOfficial502 6 ай бұрын
I bought it and I loved it 👍
@thenulliestnomo5799
@thenulliestnomo5799 2 жыл бұрын
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