The Problem With Uncharted

[@captainmidnight]

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[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Hi

[@doffe23gamerhd32]

yes I loved the movie

[@ChristianJayTheCTrain]

Id like to see a sequel, but without Fleischer at the helm. Honestly, I think Tom can be a solid Nate if the direction and script give him a character to really work with. Sophia Ali is great as Chloe, and I think the chemistry can be present (again, if the script gives the actors something to work with). Hell, i think Mark could even make a decent Sully; lord knows any characterization of the character was left out of the script from the get-go, so its not like Wahlberg could've played anyone but himself. If the sequel gets a completely different creative team and director, I think the sequel could be 10 steps in the right direction. It may not be perfect, but it has the potential to become something great, and literally follow in the footsteps of "Sic Pavis Magna"

[@live4thehunttoday678]

Yes

[@roncriswell2685]

I think it's in Mark Wahlbergs contract to have over the top product placement like in transformers and all the bud lite and bullshit LOL

[@lacolem1]

I think Hollywood vastly underrates how well written a lot of games are by themselves and don’t need reimagining, or how important relatability and self insert are when replicating these plots.

[@arkamfate9371]

Sadly comes down to ego no better than how every KZbinr couch critic gives their expert critical analysis of these films that have taken sometimes years to make to come to fruition on the screen for us to enjoy or at least presumably enjoy. Ego is what really drives one's perception without any biased or over inflated sense of the opinion

[@TyandOnGoing]

This. They have yet to recognize games are a art form themselves. Like books they can be translated to other mediums without making too much changes depending on how good the writing is.

[@donaldpetersen2382]

Movie directors do not understand the pacing or reasons for emphasis of video game plot. It's just something to be improved into movie plot from their understanding. Just like how some books get heavily disrespected by their on screen counterpart. Simply a director's lack of respect for anything not their preferred form of media.

[@arkamfate9371]

@@TyandOnGoing it's not about recognizing them as an art form. Because art is subjective really. Then there's a thing called irrefutable fact versus opinion. Irrefutable facts or to be honest facts that are supported by evidence that cannot be refuted unless you're just some kind of argumentative prick. Then you have irrefutable opinion; which goes off of a very popular if not predominant opinion on certain things. Like say what you will about Titanic as a film. It's an airfutable fact that it was one of the highest grossest movies of all time. An irrefutable opinion happens to be it was a generally well done and well made film.

[@arkamfate9371]

@@donaldpetersen2382 it has nothing to do with lack of respect for a person's preferred media so much as it is a basic and irrefutable fact. Not everyone plays video games, not everybody reads. The real reason why you can never truly adapt a particular book into a decent film it's simple not everyone has read the book ergo not everyone is going to be as familiar with the origin of the story. Just like how not everyone is familiar with comic books so your average comic book gatekeeping nerd will of course have tons of knowledge and information about the comic book origin source compared to the average person that does not read comic books. Not everyone plays video games at least to the extent to where they want a fascinating in-depth and riveting story. Let's not kid ourselves here, not everyone that plays a video game plays it for the same reason. Some of us play for the thrill and the enjoyment of simple violent fun, like the folks that play fighting games or first person shooters. Some of us enjoy a really good in-depth story and character arc. And there are some that are perfectly content with playing angry birds. now that does not mean that you can't enjoy the same media we just all enjoyed to a different extent. Film is something that can be genuinely and generally received by anyone. Whether if you're familiar with the source material or not. And there are more people that watch films then read books or play video games food for thought.

[@yash_kapoor]

This movie would’ve worked better if it was simply an adventure Nate and Sully went on. Making it Nate’s “first big adventure” immediately gave me red flags. It would’ve been better to drop in the middle or at least after they first meet like Uncharted 1 did.

[@AmandaabnamA]

The game got it right by jumping right in

[@thet1375]

Holland is not right for the role of Nate.

[@mustlovedragons8047]

I bet they made it the "first big adventure" because they were hoping it would bloom into a money printing cinimatic universe like Marvel. Hence it needed to be an origin story.

[@shortbread1818]

@@thet1375 I agree mostly but it seems more like a writing problem than a Tom Holland problem

[@sharpshoota8274]

@@thet1375 we’re still talking about this? We’ve know for a year now please drop it

[@zsht]

They cast Holland, not because he was right for the role, but because he's popular and his chat-show/press-junket appearances often go viral. The pressure of selling big-budget movies is so intense, that studios would rather invest in mediocre algorithmic by-the-books drivel than take a risk on a creative auteur piece.

[@asparagus2578]

They could’ve cast Tom cruise. He would be a perfect cast as Nate. Besides he did mission: impossible and he doesn’t need a stunt double.

[@w3ghe711]

@@asparagus2578 he’s too old tbh, and he doesn’t bring in millions of teen girls

[@chachwa9970]

@@w3ghe711 he would’ve been great like a decade ago, maybe an older drake, but I thought that Chris Pratt could play him or obviously Nathan Fillion

[@w3ghe711]

@@chachwa9970 I can pretty much only see Nathan Fillion as him. He may be a bit old but he’s still the best choice by far imo

[@chachwa9970]

@@w3ghe711 his biggest problem in Sony’s eyes is that he isn’t a big enough name and he is a little old

[@noahhutchins5164]

For me, the characters made the Uncharted games so special to me. So, when I saw the casting, all my faith in the project was lost. I just can't see either Holland or Wahlberg growing into Nathan or Sully.

[@sv32099]

I got so mad when I saw the casting cause tbh if they wanted a big name star to cast as drake, I could see that working out fine with mark as he has a lot of charm while also being able to sell the cheeky, asshole bits without ruining his character

[@Blue-Apple-fc9eo]

@@sv32099 Me personally think the movie was ok at it’s best, But let’s be honest it could have been way worse.

[@sv32099]

@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo yeah but still this is just a casting mistake that kept being shoved in my face by having mark Wahlberg in the movie in a miscast role. I kept thinking with the scenes of sully "huh wonder how mark would've reacted to that as drake?"

[@Blue-Apple-fc9eo]

@@sv32099 Yea but at the end of the day i think the movie is fine, Nothing terrible going on.

[@sv32099]

@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo true I'm not putting blame on the actors or directors more so the studio because they're the ones that made the decisions that I don't like. Your fine to like the movie too, I really don't care about that. Mostly just the missed opportunity for another good game adaptation after we've had some actual decent to good ones recently

[@theveryworstluck1894]

The "weightlessness" of the CGI is nothing compared to that scene every reviewer uses of the barrel spilling the gold. Gold is heavy as fuck. You can tell that's prop gold the way it falls out.

[@markchapman6800]

That was a goof in the infinitely superior _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ too. Unless that gold idol at the beginning was meant to be hollow (and even then...) it would have weighed a hell of a lot more than that piddling bag of sand that Indy replaces it with, and he even pours out a bit! Of course, that might have been why the trap went off anyway 😄

[@epiciddrwhodavid1]

Still go not still injoyed the movie if they ever make a older Drake then Nathan fellon him in that fan movie I love the 4 games 5th one not so much no Nate in that one only Sam and others if you go into this movie wanting it the same as one of the games then u better go and watch all the cut scenes on the games I just want more Nathan drake story’s not have a movie the same as the game word for word example of this happening reboot of psycho that was the same movie but in colour boring

[@hellodumplings8564]

The weight of an object doesn’t affect its fall acceleration tho.

[@theveryworstluck1894]

@@hellodumplings8564 I know, it's just the way the gold objects tumble and slide over each other. It makes them look light or hollow, but I could be wrong. I've never actual seen that amount of gold bars and shit fall out of a barrel lol

[@epiciddrwhodavid1]

@@theveryworstluck1894 if you did u would be very rich 🤑

[@rogue]

The characters are the charm of the games. Their likability is what makes the story of the games so compelling. The movie strips that away and you’re left with a hollow shell of Uncharted. People who haven’t experienced the real characters won’t be bothered because they don’t know what they’re missing. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@themarsman5155]

The movie was okay but I admit Nathan is far better in the video game with a close relationship with his brother. His secret from his own wife also adds some drama. Tom Holland is to young but at least he is pretty enjoyable on a screen, he also doesn't feel like the same guy from the video games.

[@acutelilmint8035]

playing the first game right now.. and ya.. nathan and sully are really fun. that girl is not bad tooo.. i like its this mystery adventure that is being unraveled and showing how fun the characters are

[@nanouklezaf4273]

Wahlberg would have been a great Nathan Drake 10 years ago. Hollland would have been a great Nathan Drake in 10 years.

[@derek96720]

Possibly. Holland has one of those faces that'll make him look like a teenager until he's 40, like Leo Dicaprio. He was wrong for the square-jawed alpha male Nathan Drake.

[@NoctLightCloud]

@@derek96720 There is no such thing as an alpha male. Get out of that toxic thinking.

[@derek96720]

@@NoctLightCloud I know there aren't. I'm talking about societal perception. Chill out

[@bakedbeans5494]

Holland*.

[@junke2995]

This is a quality joke, I'm laughing my head off.

[@kiera6646]

I think the main issue is that the people who made this film… clearly don’t understand the appeal of the games. If you’re adapting a massively beloved game series, you should, at the very least, be able to identify WHAT people like about it. Uncharted isn’t as popular as it is because it has groundbreaking gameplay. I can’t even say it’s because of the intricate set pieces and cliche story beats. No, Uncharted is popular because of the likability of Nathan Drake and his chemistry with Sully. The film couldn’t even get those two essential things right.

[@3kmando]

This felt like a ton Holland and mark walhburg movie instead of a Nathan and sully movie…

[@sharpshoota8274]

Totally disagree, their chemistry was great and willl be even better in the sequel.

[@Gameslayer-2003]

@@sharpshoota8274 the chemistry was trash in the movie. Mark Wahlberg was more of himself than sully. I am not looking forward to the sequel.

[@sharpshoota8274]

@@Gameslayer-2003 I am. And the chemistry was good. But thanks for the input Zaid.

[@Gameslayer-2003]

@@sharpshoota8274 your welcome

[@nadomedia]

The main problem is: videogames aren’t being taken seriously by Hollywood. Their idea of a game is ‘brainless fun, so the movies should be like that too.’ In my honest opinion they should have let someone else direct the film, for example the director of National Treasure, and not cast Tom Holland nor Mark Wahlberg.

[@izzy1349]

That's what I've been saying, I've heard so many people say "video games adaptations will always suck" but it can be done if the writer and directors are actually passionate and knowledgeable of the source material. I feel like Netflix Castlevania and detective Pikachu are the only mainstream adaptations that achieved this

[@maxpops8427]

@@izzy1349 and Sonic The Hedghog

[@maxpops8427]

To be fair a lot of games are brainless fun. Sonic, Mortal Kombat, Mario, Street Fighter Fortnite etc. Uncharted just isn’t one of those.

[@charlieharrington9555]

@@izzy1349 Arcane is the best video game adaptation in my opinion

[@lunagrace2872]

Agreed, my favorite video game movie is Angelina Jolie Lara Croft. It’s not a prefect movie at all but they got the character of Lara down. She it smart, witty, fun and sexy and they were actually FUN movies. You could tell that everyone had a great time making those movies. It not perfect but they got the essence of the character right at least and that what most people care about a movie adaptation. Get the essence of the characters and story themes and your pretty good with the actual movie being liked but unfortunately Hollywood writers and actors can’t even do the bare minimum.

[@WaddleDee105]

Tom Holland is already a bad miscast here but when I heard that Mark Wahlberg was gonna be Sully I knew it was going to be a terrible adaptation. I can't even remember the last time Mark has been in something halfway decent.

[@charlieharrington9555]

The Departed

[@fnonp7477]

The Other Guys

[@sharpshoota8274]

Ok so you didn’t see the movie and you’re just a mark hater so obviously you have nothing good to say

[@KatieLHall-fy1hw]

Markey Mark

[@ECxTheMaster]

@@sharpshoota8274 mark is a one note actor

[@LeonardoKlotz]

I knew how this movie was gonna turn out when I learned that the writers were the ones behind TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT And MEN IN BLACK INTERNATIONAL

[@Zombiesnyder13]

#IBlameAviArad

[@dastvan8002]

@@Zombiesnyder13 in other news: Water, wet

[@barry2349]

Tbh morbious about to be trash aswell

[@KatieLHall-fy1hw]

Oh no, are you serious? MIB international was… something. I have seen the whole thing but in pieces, I have yet to sit through the entire film. I did really like MIB 3, it reminded me of an updated Back to the Future but with Will Smith. I totally bought it ❤️

[@g.d.graham2446]

The first one mentioned was terrible, the second one I thought was fine, had good humor and that was about it

[@MrOPD]

This movie became tedious soooo quickly. Everything just kept boiling down to everyone constantly quadruple crossing each other, backstabbing each other, one upping each other, "sorry, but I've learned to not trust people" each other, every fucking other scene. Not to mention that they just all constantly keep stumbling into each other - like, it's the most well kept secret in human history or some shit, and you need to have these super mysterious macguffins, following this super secret treasure map, doing all this super mysterious adventure shit, and it's always just 1 guy going through the trouble of figuring everything out with 10 other people just constantly knowing EXACTLY what that one guy is up to at every single given moment. This movie was National Treasure. But worse. And like 20 years too late. With way less likeable characters. And just about 0 action. And the most boring and stupid mysteries and adventure. But alas, don't mind me hiding a 200 y/o key hole inside a Papa John's with a steam vent directly connecting my $5 billion treasure to a night club.

[@GuardsmanBass]

National Treasure was a lot better than this - it was actually a good action-adventure movie that works with its wild treasure hunt plot.

[@KatieLHall-fy1hw]

National Treasure is the best!

[@ath9558]

Dont compare this trash to national treasure 😭 that movie was amazing

[@Cynicalhamptur]

In defense of the constant backstabbing... majority of the time it made sense logically and realistically wise considering the amount of money one can potentially get is a HUGE amount like what Sully said in the movie: "5-6 Billion" also most of the backstabbing and betrayal makes sense logically, to the character plotwise in the movie. Chloe Frazer stated that Sully had betrayed her once just for the money so makes sense why she would backstab Sully and Nathan when they first met. Later on, its revealed that she was working with Santiago Moncada the whole time which I admit was kinda shoehorn and asspull as there wasn't any setup unless you count her backstabbing Sully and Nathan when they met. Santiago betrayed and killed his dad because his dad wanted to give the treasure away to anyone who can find it other than the family because of guilt from the bloodshed of his ancestors, an ok reasoning. Like what Santiago said, even giving away the treasure doesn't erase the past bloodshed so in his reasoning he's like "might as well just keep the treasure" Braddock betraying Santiago was mainly out of petty revenge and Santiago undermining her skills by secretly hiring Chloe behind her back. Also, Sully states she is a free agent that just chose to work under the Moncada family in hopes of getting the gold without much hard work put in. Also the main point of what the movie was trying to convey was trust. It made sense that almost everybody other than Nathan was backstabbing each other to drive the point of how important trust was. With Chloe, it was kind of a cautionary tale to Nathan that he could end up alone just like her if he closed off everyone and distrusted everyone just from a shitty experience. With Sully, his past actions thought Nathan to not backstab or betray people for the money as people will find a way to fuck you over in the future. Santiago was doing whatever it took just to get the treasure even if it hurt the people he was working with and that got him killed. Braddock is in a similar situation to Chloe where she closed people off and teaches Nathan that you shouldn't forsake your morals just for money as it will only bring you to the same level as the main villain Santiago.

[@gabbyb9418]

@@ath9558 National Treasure was a meme movie. Can it be entertaining? To the right crowd, sure. But let's not pretend its well-written. I saw it in theaters as a teenager & have literally never had the urge to watch it again. Glad you like it though.

[@luckyspurs]

The "let it go" scene in Last Crusade works so well because you know Sean Connery's been after the grail for decades and decades before Indiana even thought of it, at the expense of spending any real time with his son. Indiana wants the grail almost entirely for his dad's love and approval, not the thing itself. So when Sean Connery tells him that he has it already, without risking his life, it completes the story perfectly.

[@TheSt1092]

The problem is these video games can have 6-10 hours of material . Trying to cram such expansive material into 120-150 minutes is is extremely difficult , Even from watchingj just the trailer Tom Holland feels horribly miscast. Also regarding the storytelling of Indiana Jones don't forget Raiders of the Lost Ark was nominated for Best Picture at Oscars and is considered one of the greatest adventure movies ever made- that is pretty heady.

[@Vexmus_]

Honeslty I feel like it could have benefited from an approach like Arcane. Though league is a VERY different game, and the lore isn't exactly front and center, the episodic act structure that still feels like a cinematic movie experience is kind of how video game movies should go if they want to fairly adapt the game structure into cinema. That way, you're not losing as much material, and each segment can get a larger amount of time decicated to it without it feeling like it takes away from the experience. Its either that or make a 5 hour long movie lol

[@chachwa9970]

@@Vexmus_ I don’t think they could’ve done an arcane style because of how different uncharted and League are. Uncharted shouldn’t be a show, because it’s got too much story that’s been told before

[@sharpshoota8274]

Yeah that’s why they didn’t directly copy the games and instead just took source material from them and created their own story to fit the lines of the movie.

[@rorschach1985ify]

@@sharpshoota8274 And in the end it sucked. Way to go.

[@LadyAstarionAncunin]

Video games can have hundreds of hours of material, especially if they're made by Rockstar or Bethesda.

[@jonasdiaz8615]

I think the biggest thing wrong this film is that there is everything there to make this franchise a series of great to excellent action adventure films! While some people are willing to expect less and enjoy it for what it is by itself, it is also beholden to the great expectations of the franchise and underwhelms on one too many fronts. Quite disappointed that this isn't universally the best video game movie to date, as it easily could've reached that height to match that of Indiana Jones and Mission Impossible!

[@jessec.6876]

Honestly the last few mission impossible movies capture the spirit of uncharted better than the film did

[@leonardohernandezarias3709]

I think that if sony would have hired people who worked on mission impossible and the new jumanji movies Uncharted would have been the best video game movie to date or at least until sonic 2 comes out

[@jessec.6876]

@@leonardohernandezarias3709 Right. The new mission impossible films are better uncharted movies than the uncharted movies are

[@Hawkguy889]

I haven’t heard someone mention Chuck in a very long time… Really underrated, loved that show

[@ThoseOneGuysInc]

can we get a video on that?

[@KGFIQ]

@@ThoseOneGuysInc yes!

[@ETibbs11]

To play devil's advocate for just one thing, apparently Tom Holland stated in an interview (do not remember which one) that COVID really hampered the crew's ability to film the globe-trotting film they really wanted. Now that doesn't excuse the Papa John's scene one bit. Or any of the other movie's flaws haha. Unfortunately, having a lot of the movie only take place in Barcelona makes sense and is pretty sad.

[@qaiskoji5170]

He also said in an interview with Jacksepticeye,that they also wanted to do a car chase scene that mimics the madagascar chase scene in uncharted 4,but with COVID restrictions,it is impossible

[@chachwa9970]

Yeah Barcelona is kind of a weird area to have most of the movie considering it was a tiny part in the game, but the overall idea of the movie is bad to people that actually played the games taking bits and pieces of the third and fourth game was never going to work

[@kevingame3198]

But arcane league of legends on the other hand shows you how video game adaptation can be done right and shows you how passionate the crew were had total creative freedom and show had a story to match

[@Kanata_Satou]

Because of course there was an underground party in any of the Uncharted games 🙄

[@Diphenhydra]

Hey now, that papa johns scene was genuinely hilarious.

[@chrisburns514]

As soon as I saw pirate ships flying through the air I knew I was out. Even with the supernatural elements in the Uncharted series, they never went so far with the silliness.

[@triggatherapper656]

Not defending this film buttttt cursed zombies and ape like infected shambla men

[@redwarrior2317]

@@triggatherapper656 Did you read the comment?

[@donnythedealer9761]

@@redwarrior2317 yeh but dawg supernatural stuff is way more silly than a helicopter carrying a pirate ship

[@karastern2167]

Having a scene in a Papa Johns didn't bother me. It pointed out how much the world had changed since the sailors hid their treasure. The amazing fresco on the wall was no longer in a church or wherever it was when the map was hidden. Now it's a cheap fast food place. Or a night club. What bothered me more was the scene at the end where the ships, suspended from helicopters were whipping around through the air. I can give a certain license to psychics in an adventure film, like the part at the beginning where Drake climbs up the cargo boxes back into the airplane. But those 500 year old wooden sailing ships would have been reduced to splinters when they tried to put the nets around them, never mind lifting them and flying away with them. It shattered my suspension of disbelief. I'm completely unfamiliar with the video games so the deviation from the source material didn't bother me. I just wanted a fantastic adventure movie with fast action and daring do. But the action felt rushed and the character scenes felt drawn out. I left the theater feeling unsatisfied.

[@mylesfrost335]

it was a mush of ideas taken from various games namely 4 the betrayels was an un2 thing with a betrayel to kick of a story and with chloe will she/wont she betray nathan (though that was out of fear of the villian not greed like in the movie making her motive understandable) the plane scen was from uncharted 3 meanwhile the treasure and the ditching of the supernatural elements were from 4 i dont remember doing them doing anything like they did with the pirate ships in fact in the games its the opposite everything is so old is keeps collapsing around nate

[@karastern2167]

@@mylesfrost335 I understand that the movie was taken from the source material of the video games. But to be successful, the movie had to be attractive to people who never heard of the games before, like myself. It was not. It felt like too many ideas shoved together. The characters were underdeveloped, I had no idea who these people were. The plot seemed forced and the action scenes felt very by-the-numbers. It felt sub par. All the elements had been done better in other movies.

[@mylesfrost335]

@@karastern2167 agreed When i saw it we went as a group of 3 2 of us had investment in the series and one of us didnt Me and my other friend who did came out and said yeah it was alright "servicable" and my friend with no investment didnt enjoy it all and found it stupid I think a lot of us with investment just filled in the character development holes even though these wernt the same characters especially the character of sully Yeah sullys intrest was always money but he was a scoundrel with a heart of gold

[@mylesfrost335]

@@karastern2167 i agree to many ideas not enough time to focus on one

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

What bothered me was that clearly all these construction workers, city employees, and whatnot were clearly crawling all over this hidden area, and none of them bothered to investigate the hidden stuff.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Now Tom Holland knows how Robert Downey Jr. felt when he tried to starring in a movie after a huge successful Marvel movie.

[@TomEyeTheSFMguy]

You mean Dolittle?

[@HonestObserver]

I'm sure Tom is crying about the $51m domestic opening

[@TheSt1092]

The Judge was a bigger problem for Downey Jr trying to break away from Marvel.

[@kiratvyas8815]

@@TheSt1092 the judge was a great film i think hes talking about dolittle

[@sportssequencereserve7137]

You do realize it’s been financially successful, right?

[@amadou234]

Great point to start the video, for me it’s impossible to get past the fact that tom and mark look nothing like nathan and sully. especially because sully is my favorite character in the franchise

[@bluesyrupgc4224]

True. I mean, Tom could pass for Nate, because Nate was pretty young when we first played him and I don’t think anyone fit this young, adventurous archetype as well as Tom Holland. Mark, on the other hand, brought a real problem. Sully has always been this old, wise gray-hair man and some even consider a cool boomer, casting Mark is really questionable

[@slickvox2639]

@@bluesyrupgc4224 fax, even when he first met Nate in the games, he already looked at least 40

[@neliaferreira9983]

It is not just the appearance that matters here. The personalities don't match at all either. Nathan is not the cutsie baby-faced funny-man Tom Holland is famous for. Nathan is a rugged man with an illegal past, complex motivations and unresolved family issues. Mark, well, he got this one character that he plays in every movie, kinda wooden-faced, bored, and dismissive. Not at all the vibes we get from charming, adventurous, daredevil Sully.

[@Real_Genji]

For me, the most redeeming part of the film is how absolutely gorgeous it was. The plane scene and the helicopter scene was absolutely amazing to watch and I really do like Tom Holland he's really charming... But he's no Nathan Drake. For me, watching as how they try to combine Uncharted 3 and 4 into a movie but then make him younger? It just really holds itself back

[@Smok3yR1der]

Another reason the Indy scene with the Grail works is because we just watched Elsa do the exact same thing. Seeing the hero act with as much greed as a villain then turning away from it is *why* Indy is a hero.

[@Hedge_witch]

A younger Nathan Fillion not being Drake is a huge movie crime for the ages.

[@prowthegamer]

It’s the casting that really rubbed me the wrong way. I played all 4 games and I haven’t played lost legacy but my expectations were really low. I love Tom Holland but he’s not Nathan Drake.

[@ath9558]

Lost legacy is just as good as uncharted 4, almost like a mini version of it u should definitely play it

[@AlwaysVotingMAGA]

You gotta play The Lost Legacy. Do it as soon as you can, you'll love it even though it has Chloe as the playable character (different character that's not Nate like usual). Also, make sure you have a PS5 so you can play the PS5 Remastered version!😊👍🏻 Sadly Naughty Dog has been woke ever since then so I hate them now.

[@ethanhansen1479]

The whole sully thing was also weak because we were told he betrays people but I never once thought he would fully betray Nate. Of course he ditched him at the party with the cross but it felt like that situation was played for laughs to me.

[@diogo763]

I said this as soon as I left the cinema, the after credits scene was the most uncharted feeling scene in the whole movie, not just the action but in character too.

[@tomhur1]

Hopefully that means a hypothetical sequel will be exactly what it needs to be.

[@Alex-hm7nt]

I thought the movie was just OK. No more than a rental. I didn't have high expectations either. I dont mind Holland as Drake (still should be Fillion imo) and I thought his chemistry with Walberg was also...alright. I just can't picture Sully looking like Mark (prequel or not) Edit: I will say, whatever her face/character was, she did not need to be in it. On top of that, the games themselves were really well written (as you said) and that being a video game, we get direct interaction instead of just watching. This sounded good on paper, but wasn't needed

[@GenerationWest]

I think we can easily breakdown the movie in one phrase: This isn't "Sony Presents: Naughty Dog's Uncharted", this is "Sony Presents: Sony's Uncharted." Also, I think Reuben Fleischer was like, grown in a Sony Lab or something.

[@benwasserman8223]

Maybe The Last of Us show will do better. Pairing the game co-creator and Chernobyl writer with Pedro Pascal as another killer dad- that should be a good combo.

[@GenerationWest]

@@benwasserman8223 THAT I have faith in.

[@bush9486]

@@GenerationWest let’s just hope it doesn’t disappoint, video game adaptations have a pretty bad track record so far.

[@adamazzalino5247]

I'm sick of people telling me they had "fun with it" and its just "entertainment." Nathan Drake and Sully are some of the most iconic game characters of our era. What makes Uncharted work is the personalities and world that Amy Henning created--the wit and relationships--you care about Drake and his friends. That's what set it apart from just another action-adventure game. The guy who says, "hey man what's going on?I'm Marky-Mark" as Sully and just a random bankable actor you call when you want a teenager just doesn't feel like they respected the characters. When I disconnected it from Uncharted I enjoyed it. I don't know maybe its because Uncharted were the games that elevated games from things to play, to a medium that could tell great stories for me. Drake is 30 in the games and there are so many actors in their 30s who would have loved the role and Sully should always be played by Bruce Campbell to me. Someone said he's too old--he's the exact age. lol I just don't get when we have The Last Of Us with HBO coming and tons of other game-based tv shows to come--we get this. It was a cash-in by the numbers treasure hunt movie. The cast did what it could--but Drake and the world of Uncharted deserve more care.

[@5Ci0N]

TL;DR Get over it fanboy

[@adamazzalino5247]

@@5Ci0N No

[@theunbeatable6598]

Should have been a stand alone treasure hunting movie. Disrespectful to uncharted franchise imo

[@jessec.6876]

@Xavier Tbf, Nate is often in kill or be killed situations. I don't think he's going to try to reason with an army of people who will kill him on sight

[@ufg1510]

you don't like that people have fun?

[@sungshineev8732]

I've played Uncharted since I was 11 years old alongside all of my family members. What we loved most about the games was the quick witted humor and the dynamics between Sully and Drake. I think the problem with this movie is that anyone that wants to see those characters, won't see them until at least another movie is made. Because this is their first meeting, they don't have the dynamic that makes Uncharted so lovable. I think the movie is good for anyone that hasn't played the games, but that is also exactly the problem. I can understand partly the casting of Tom Holland, but it brings more negatives than positives. He plays YOUNG Nathan Drake, someone we don't really see much of in the games. His immaturity and non-experience of going on adventures makes it understandable why there wasn't much action in the movies. But Uncharted fans don't want that. We want to see the aweful shit Drake has to put up with, only to laugh it off when he nearly escapes death for the nth time. We didn't get all of this because this was the start of it all. I don't think it's a BAD movie, I think it's fine. As an Uncharted fan I am certainly dissapointed in the simple plot and the bad villains (they were very bland in my opinion, especially the lackies that followed Jo around. I guess an argument can be made that it's like that in the games, but it just wasn't translated well onto the screen). I think it has an alright setup for a sequel, because we could see the 'Drake's Fortune' shirt in the post credit scene being worn by Tom Holland. If they make a sequel, I hope they realise that through that timeskip, Drake and Sully have the same relationship they do in the games and that they really make that the most important thing. That, and Drake actually shooting people in the heads with no mercy. :)

[@vitorquattrocchi9527]

As a big, BIG fan of the Uncharted games I was very skeptical about this movie. But I actually really liked this movie. It’s very entertaining and enjoyable. I’ll definitely want a sequel to this

[@brennanyoung699]

I really like the movie too. I consider it one of the good video game movies, but not the Best. And I really want them to make a sequel. But, maybe they should get another director, like Jon Turteltaub. Because he did the National Treasure films. And do you think Tom Holland should continue as Nathan Drake? Or should they get someone else?

[@bleh-0608]

Can you make a video on the Mission Impossible franchise? I think that will be interesting! Or even the Lara Croft movies

[@anubusx]

Rogue Nation is my favourite of the series.

[@benwasserman8223]

I think the future of game adaptations is in TV, if the strength of shows like Arcane and Castlevania are any indicator.

[@BrontoSmilodon1]

Well after hearing the movie is doing well financially at the box office, there will definitely be a sequel that might underperform.

[@vyperii]

I took it as it's own thing. I'm a big fam of the games. and I knew it couldn't quite do that, but as an hour and a half of action adventure in the cinema with my daughter, I thought it was more than good enough. I hope we get sequel...

[@LongplayScrapbook]

finally someone who's not hopping on the hate bandwagon. The movie was serviceable. I didn't go in expecting a copy and paste.

[@blackmantis3130]

@@LongplayScrapbook it isn't about the copy and pasting but the writing .

[@lukewarmice8292]

I enjoyed it too. couple issues at the end but it was worth it

[@grfrjiglstan]

For a movie stuck in development hell for longer than most Sonic games, the final product just feels so unambitious. Maybe that's just what happens in DH - the years just strip away every edge and risk from the final project, and just churn out blandness. Yeah, I'm still salty about Dark Tower.

[@Zombiesnyder13]

Having ambition is all it takes to make an adaptation work And unfortunately, AVI ARAD has none of that

[@EspectroUrbano]

The moment I saw Holland had been casted as Drake for this movie I knew I was in for a shit storm. Then the rest of the movie happened, with really really cheap FX. They were just trying to copy set pieces. Seeing them pick an actor for his popularity with preteens to play an alpha male they're just *not* fit for is almost always a good indicator you're in for a bad film

[@KH0LRA]

The criticism of this film is why I actually got curious enough to get into the original games. It easily became one of my most favorite game series EVER! With that in mind, I'm even more mad now that another good videogame story in film was ruined in translation. Hell, something like the Nathan Fillon one could have gotten greenlit instead and would have done better - the passion and faithfullness from the ones behind that little film really nailed it!!

[@GuardsmanBass]

It was . . .fine. Main thing I took from it all was that doing a good action-adventure movie is REALLY hard. Indiana Jones movies, "Mummy" 1999, "National Treasure" - they all seem a lot more impressive now. The stuff with Chloe ended up kind of weird. It was funny when they had the whole "rule of three" pay-off (she betrayed him first by stealing the cross key, then by robbing him of the map) result in her getting handed wrong coordinates, but then she basically plays no other role in the film after that except a tiny joke near the end. It felt like unsatisfying pay-off after they kept building up on-screen chemistry between her and Drake. The weird thing about Wahlberg's Sully and Drake is that it felt like they cut some scenes out near the beginning. Like he's just a bar-tender who occasionally pick-pockets from customers, and next thing Sully's asking him to be the trigger man on the auction heist.

[@TIB1973]

I was fine with Holland, a little on the small side but that can be overlooked easily enough. What I didn't get was whalberg, did not fit the role AT ALL. Not a knock on his acting, its just the same Whalberg character in every movie as it was in this one. Overall the movie didn't feel like uncharted, it was a standalone buddy action movie but did not feel like uncharted. It may have been better to have already established their characters and dropped them in the middle of an adventure that is after all the games, since 90% of us already know the story to that point, lets just have a new adventure. I would like to see another one, but recast Sully please.

[@MrMario-tc8sl]

This is a great channel; I always look forward to watching these when they are uploaded. Consistent fair, honest opinions and very good at getting the point across. Also, I can't help but do the "Captaaaaaain, Midnight!" at the start.

[@RandomPerson-vx2pz]

something that bugged me a lot was the lack of guns and shooting which is a major part of the game and also the moral dilemma that comes with killing an endless amount of goons just for some treasure is also something that was missing due to that lack of guns and shooting

[@therockgodabides]

Sulley having to choose between the gold and Nathan reminded me of the moment in Treasure Planet when Long John Silver had to choose between Jim Hawkins and the treasure, "Just a lifelong obsession, Jimbo. I'll get over it."

[@jbcatz5]

Treasure Planet spends time investing in the father/son relationship that develops between Silver and Jim, to the point that you genuinely feel the emotions behind the decision of long desired wealth vs saving the young man he’s grown attached to. Silver has acted against Jim with the mutiny so he’s more of a wild card in a do we trust him or not way (helped by this relationship being an addition the movie makes so we don’t have the source material to help us guess) whereas Sully is always an ally to Nate so we know which way he’ll swing.

[@therockgodabides]

@@jbcatz5 Yeah, exactly! You get it. 👍🏼

[@AZWADER]

6:32 Homeboy really started rapping in the middle of a video essay

[@july_paradox3094]

To me. They were hoping the actors would sell the movie rather than the storytelling on of the movie itself.

[@blackmantis3130]

Exactly

[@powerbomb4833]

3:15 "Give me a movie poster where someone is holding a big wooden torch and I'm probably gonna watch the thing" lol

[@ImK4Os]

Can't lie I thought this was a fairly entertaining movie, was pretty derivative but hey I love this genre of movie so I was okay with this. While yea the characters aren't as fleshed out I still feel they doa. Fairly good job with the basic characterisation, even if it is nothing like the original characters

[@--Paws--]

I haven't even seen it but visually how they are portrayed and who they are as actors make it almost impossible to forget. If someone else in the role really makes a significant impact on a future version of the film, then maybe this movie will be forgotten. Each new reboot of a film can have that effect on older films sometimes unless it is worse than the original or boring. Some films can also fall into their own separate flavors; they're not bad or good just different.

[@bibekthapa7409]

Genuine question but why should sully sacrificing the treasure part should be emotional or satisfying? This happens quite a lot in the game where they have to sacrifice the treasure like in the movie and in the end someone manages to sneak some treasures in.

[@They_are_Arthur]

I noticed when you brought up the Raiders of the Lost Ark footage that spiders were on Indie's back. This reminds me of the spider-web cave Nate and Chloe were walking through, which felt almost sterile in it's presentation. Felt more like a Halloween walkthrough attraction while they had a conversation you could have on a sidewalk. There were no spiders or really any sense of danger in this spider web cave, it felt unadventurous. Same goes for that flying dart trap preceding it, the camera shots are so basic and the stakes feel so low that it's hard to get invested in any of it.

[@tyrian9471]

Honestly, I enjoyed the movie more than I was expecting I would, especially since I hold the games in very high regard. It certainly has it's problems, but I think it's a decent starting point if they end up making more of them. I think Tom did a solid job as Nate, though he could've used a bit more of an edge (he didn't even come close to being the mass murderer that Nate is in the games). He has room to improve and for what they were going for, I don't think he was a bad choice. But on the other hand, Mark was not a good choice for Sully. Like at all. The closest thing he got to Sully was the inflection in some of his lines. And even then, he never even said "Goddamn," and he's supposed to be Victor "Goddamn" Sullivan! He wasn't horrendous or anything, but it's not encouraging. Other than that, the action was mostly pretty fun, Chloe was alright, the Nolan North cameo was fun, and Antonio Banderas was exactly what I'd expect from an Uncharted villain. Also, since it was focused on so much in the video, the Pizza Hut scene. It didn't really bother me, because the idea of these ancient puzzle pieces just being adapted into modern architecture without anyone realizing it is a fun idea. If it was just a generic pizza place, it probably wouldn't have been an issue, but I guess acknowledging real life brands is a deal breaker, for whatever reason. In the end, I'd be interested to see where they go from here if they do continue. The end credits scene hints at them adapting the first game, which would lead to an interesting tone shift due to plot developments. It'd just be strange that Uncharted 1 would end up being Uncharted 2 film wise.

[@jamieposeidonmccarthy]

Casting Tom Holland was the very first thing that went wrong. That's like casting me as Geronimo instead of the legendary Wes Studi 😆

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Ross McIntyre summed it up best where this movie isn’t really about the story of Nathan Drake but rather a vehicle for Tom Holland to prove that he can be more than just Spider-Man and how Sony saw the formula of Tom Holland plus Sony IP equals success financially.

[@starwing2814]

I can totally agree with that.

[@jbcatz5]

It’s like how Chris Pratt seems to be in everything, Hollywood still considers him hot property and they will use him for star power even though he has no vocal range.

[@comixproviderftw_02]

@@jbcatz5 I’ll give Chris Pratt credit in that at least he’s getting work.

[@thesixfootsixexperience8781]

The donut sandwich in the Indiana Jones scene! You’re such a straightforward orator, I love when you do a silly thing like that for a change.

[@Mysterey101]

Wattup Midnight, excited for a new vid once again

[@jgamer2228]

You made a point about Nathan Drake’s character being a good guy in this movie. To me that’s yet another example of Hollywood sterilizing everything. Nate has been betrayed before. In the opening of the second game, his partner traps him in a museum and he spends a while imprisoned in Panama. He then hunts his former partner down and kills him. The people that made Uncharted 2022 clearly don’t understand Uncharted

[@rmisionero]

What went wrong? They didn't use Nathan Fillion.

[@llewsub]

Just finished playing the games, haven't seen the movie yet... But damn, haven't seen a single image of Sully smoking a cigar. Criminal

[@justmovierants8762]

Coming from someone who's never played the games, I actually enjoyed the movie. By no means is a good movie and there's no way it'll live up to Indiana Jones, but I thought it was a enjoyable, popcorn adventure movie. I do agree some of the plot points and most of the characters are very one dimensional, but it kinda reminded me of movies like journey to the centre of the earth, which is a movie I watched growing up. I guess I just miss these type of simple, fun adventure movies, which I feel like we don't get a lot in recent years, except for like... Jumanji. But yea this is not a movie I'll think too hard about emotional beats and characters etc, I kinda just accepted it as what it is

[@CLM1987]

What went wrong? Nathan Fillion wasn’t cast to play Nathan Drake

[@HonestObserver]

Nice video but if Uncharted is a photocopy of a photocopy, you should probably throw in some comparisons to Indiana Jones clones that do work, like National Treasure or The Mummy.

[@jbcatz5]

Those films at least have something of their own identity, whereas Uncharted the film is generic adventure film. Take away the connection to the source material and it’s an adventure romp by numbers, with a macguffin that inspires daring set pieces and double crosses.

[@HonestObserver]

Yeah, but tbh, if it wasn't for Nic Cage and to a lesser extent Jon Voight, and the premise focused on American history, National Treasure was kind of generic.

[@Zebwak]

Why wouldn't the second secret entrance be in a Papa Johns? Product placement is only bad if it doesn't fit in the movie, and the point of this ancient secret is that it existed right under the noses of modern society. If you can get on board with one half of the secret entrance being in a night club, then you should be able to do the same for the other half being in a plausibly located common restaurant.

[@chrisweidt1762]

I really loved all of the games, and except for the villain I think the movie was pretty great. It was the exact over the top action, I knew from the games and the movie had some really great an epic moments. Yes…the writing felt a bit cheap sometimes, but I have to admit, that the movie gave me everything I wanted from an uncharted adaption…it was fun and I was enjoying it, and I think that’s the ONE thing this movie wanted to achieve.

[@benwasserman8223]

If you make a video game that emulates the feel of Indy-style action movies, turning that game back into a movie removes the key factor: interactivity. Ah well, at least we still have the Nathan Fillion short.

[@SpencerTheBard]

I thought it was entertaining. While watching the movie it just felt like watching someone play uncharted. I like the call backs, like the music que and visual reveal when solving a puzzle, or the camera panning up to what would have been a climbing puzzle. It wasn't trying to be anything special, just a fun adventure film. I believe it achieved that. 7/10

[@wyldshot666]

The games are well written themselves. Hollywood think we're in the age of pixels and dots of ATARI 2600. And Uncharted 2 did it for me

[@Zombiesnyder13]

Seriously, if Sony doesn't get rid of AVI ARAD Their cinematic universe isn't gonna last long

[@reddragon0624]

The problem with adapting video games into movies is that so many games (especially modern AAAs) are already so damn cinematic. So it feels redundant to try and replicate the same thing but in a two hour live action setting.

[@thisistheaccountname]

The problem with "Uncharted", is that people wanted to dislike it before it came out and now each time they make videos or comments trashing it they know it'll get them attention.

[@kiera6646]

Maybe because we found out about the casting before we knew literally anything else about it. Mark Wahlberg is a hilarious choice for Sully, especially.

[@robertdurant7934]

I really really wanted this to work. I held out hope for years that they would turn Uncharted into a film and hoped that film would do the games justice but it seems once again they just couldn’t get things right.

[@Tasisingsstuff]

I just saw it and I think it's a solid 7.5/10. I thought the dialogue was too much telling and not enough showing, which didn't round out the plot as much as it could have.

[@SeptemberWits]

the movies saving grace is seeing it in 4dx, the moving seats made the action scenes feel more intense because I genuinely feared for my life and by default the characters

[@corwin32]

That sucks. Do I think Nate would have my back in a barroom brawl? Probably. Would I trust him with my wallet? No way in hell. That’s what made him a fun character.

[@thecinematicmind]

Mark Wahlberg’s performance is delivered like he finished a SNL sketch.

[@jasonm2081]

To me it felt like they took a generic action movie script and tossed just enough of an Uncharted wallpaper over it to call it that. Wasn't a huge fan of the games and I enjoyed them well enough to want to see this. AadlyI was mostly bored when I watched the movie

[@ryantony7743]

Here's how I'm going into this movie: expect disappointment and you won't won't disappointed.

[@BugsyFoga]

An uncharted film always felt unnecessary when the games were made to be intentionally cinematic.

[@bigonrock]

Video games are written with hours of gameplay in mind lets not forget that I personally think this movie was a 10/10 for a 2 hour film it hit all the plot points so great and Tom Holland is such a great fit the role I loved the movie

[@prestonhoffman811]

I honestly loved the crap out of this movie. I saw it in 4DX so I got a lot more immersion. I’ve been playing uncharted since Drakes fortune in 2007 and haven’t missed a launch since. The beginning of the movie didn’t give me a lot of confidence but Tom Holland by the end really turned into the Nathan drake I know. I am very much hoping for a sequel and will be in the theatre day one again.

[@prestonhoffman811]

By the way I think everyone is way too concerned with characters looks. I understand that there are people that look more like the video games, but too me it just didn’t need to be a 1:1. Like everyone said the games have an amazing story, so what would be the point in just re creating the game? It’s already been done better. So use the characters and ideas but tell a new fresh story

[@jasonschlierman412]

Never played the games, but I really enjoyed this movie. Although, I do kind of agree with the criticism over the Papa John’s. Not a fan of product placement usually. Still, wasn’t enough to ruin my enjoyment of the film overall.

[@magnusskallagrimsson6707]

I said this elsewhere, but my idea for casting Sully? Bruce Campbell.

[@starwing2814]

I watched Uncharted, I really liked it, never played the game. But I agree with a lot of the cons that were said. It's a shame to see that the script was basic. It seems like the screenwriter of this script never immersed themselves in the Uncharted story itself. It seems that this script was not written as an Uncharted story but more like a standard adventure story. It seems like the script was written with someone without the experience of writing treasure hunting stories, or they were writing the script for the sake of the check. Makes me wonder who in the studio approved of the script, if they wanted to start a successful franchise that critics and fans would like. Since you said that the Uncharted games are written well, I wonder why Sony didn't hire the writers of the games since they know the source material intimately and they would of done it justice. Maybe the screenwriter was miscast.

[@livelierfellow]

Oh man, the drive-by mention of "Chuck" just triggered so much Subway PTSD. That show was really hampered by all the product placement in later seasons

[@tomassoejakto]

"Different is good" is mostly more a problem than a solution. Unfortunately today's Hollywood loooooooves "different"

[@KR4Qep]

I always thought of Breckin Myer as someone that could play Drake Nathion Fillion would definitely be a great pick. Especially with how loved he is in the gaming world. I like Tom Holland and have watched a lot of his movies outside of the MCU and think he's a talented actor. However I think he just got picked for this because he's the hotness right now. Casting on this movie from what I can see wasn't great. They should have had Naughty Dog write for the movie as they've proven themselves to be phenomenal story tellers. They could have had a real franchise here that was more than just a throwaway blockbuster.

[@gamania122]

Would've been better if the fan made film was made into full length...

[@LeoTLion24]

As someone who hasn’t played uncharted I think that the movie was pretty good

[@mollynilsson6610]

You should definitely play them. At least uncharted 4. Such an incredible game

[@Skaiser_Wilhelm7938]

Request for a future video, could you possibly do a video about the Rio franchise and it's current state with the Rio 3?

[@corbinowens2437]

I LOVE the source material, & I truly think they did a great job with everything. Sully was basically just Marky Mark, but since it's a prequel I think they did great, & they all can grow even more into the characters. But they all acted like younger, less experienced versions of them. I went in beyond scared due to the casting, but they really surprised me & I'm excited for more!

[@blank7764]

lol no

[@red-arachnid1284]

Niño Boy Rubin lol yes

[@justanotherperson2960]

Sony purposefully made a less than mediocre movie. They know that the fans will go and buy/play their original game to remove the bad aftertaste, thereby generating more money.

[@InvntdXNEWROMAN]

I liked the movie. I've played the first two games but I honestly don't remember anything about them and haven't played them since, so it was pretty easy for me to accept Mark and Tom as the characters they were portraying and enjoying their energy.

[@ravenRedwake]

6:00 I think I must have a weird personal definition of “battle”. Like you hear it all the time in anime “it was a great battle with that guy” and it seems wrong. That was a fight. A battle I’d say is larger in scale, so it would be fight, skirmish, with battle only applying when you got like a hundred per side (or more) and have not just men but materiel as well engaging.

[@Dp3ch3Mod3UndrGround]

It was a pretty bad Video game adaptation - BUT I actually enjoyed the movie. It was a fun Tom Holland led new project. And apparently it's doing good at the box office. Some people are making this out to be "Tomb Raider" quality levels bad, and its just not the case.

[@HonestObserver]

Which Tomb Raider. The 2018 one wasn't bad, it was just a forgettable nonevent. This one was somewhat better. Good job Tom Raider.

[@Dp3ch3Mod3UndrGround]

@@HonestObserver Yes. I was referring to the 2018. It was very forgettable. No actor in that stood out. Never felt needing a sequel. At least with this one, i thought Tom was very good. First time seeing him in a non-Spiderman movie, and was pleasantly surprised that he can carry another franchise on his own.

[@stentorion3669]

You should do an episode about Chuck, if that series interests you, I think it’s vastly under appreciated and overlooked today.

[@earthkingdomgaming8759]

I kind of liked Wahlberg’s performance of Sully more than Holland’s Drake. Holland portrayed Drake as less scrappy and move evasive, even though Drake is way more scrappy. I also didn’t really like that they blended Uncharted 4’s “story” with just the big scene from Uncharted 3’s plane scene. It just seemed like a jumbled mess of a story if you’ve played all the games. I would’ve preferred a brand new adventure with just the characters: Like Uncharted 5 but in movie form.

[@kit9638]

I haven't finished the video, but I completely agree with you that it was a massive letdown for me just as a fan of the games. I wanted so badly for them to prove me wrong but it truly felt like they wanted the name for recognition whilst doing whatever they wanted with the concept of an action treasure hunter film. Personally, my biggest peeve with the film is completely changing Sully and Nate's / Nate and Sam's dynamics. My biggest investment in the games was in Nate and his relationships rather than any adventure, and it just felt like they stripped that away without reinventing it or anything. Plus, on a more petty level, I hated almost all the casting in this film and felt like they wanted recognisable names to bring people by casting a lot of popular netflix actors (I love Tati but her character just feels like a discount Nadine.)

[@NTWoo95]

I find the idea of Indiana Jones meeting a crime boss in KFC so much funnier than I’m sure it was intended

[@10ControlsArchive]

Honestly for me i knew it wasn’t gonna be too inline with the games when i went to see the film, just a little fun bit of cinema, and it did that alright