The Problems With - Higurashi Sotsu/Gou

[@coolender7312]

As soon as the DBZ style fight started Higurashi no longer felt like Higurashi

[@domingosjunior6805]

That was the moment i realized Higu abandoned the pretentios Garbage of Umineko to be fun I wish the dbz fight was like Zack Snyder 's man of steel with the two destroying half of a city in the fight

[@lol7998]

@@domingosjunior6805 Hey Hey Hey, Umineko was great story but unfortunately Sotsu just tell the story about lazy study can make someone suffered studying many times💀 I'm wha-

[@domingosjunior6805]

@@lol7998 UMineko is boring and pretentious,the characters are all unlikeable and boring

[@lol7998]

@@domingosjunior6805 Without love it cannot be seen

[@dhmc45]

@@lol7998 Oh, for God's sake. Not that shit.

[@Edelweiss1102]

Kai was the perfect ending to a nearly perfect story, never should have been touched again afterwards, at least in the same canon. It had some potential but threw it right out the window.

[@Breathingdaybyday]

True

[@kieran6201]

I personally thought gou was amazing up until 17 (I think). As soon as the show started doing backstory to gou it fell apart

[@HallMarkHM]

No.

[@wrathrat]

@@HallMarkHM New to higurashi I see

[@farhanfarr8368]

No, in fact the only new good thing Higurashi GouSotsu introduced is the post tragedy story, which in this case focused more on Rika&Satoko's journey to be adult. But too bad Sotsu's sucks ass, and the conflict is resolved in just like, half an episode.. that means 13 eps of Sotsu is just a boring recap and a waste of budgets.

[@KrazyVideoChick]

So glad you mentioned Satoko doing all that just because she wasn't smart enough to be at St. Lucia. This chick literally TORTURED Rika in the worst possible way. After that episode, I wanted Satoko to die soooooooo bad with that sword. But even more, I wanted Rika to kill her while in a loop, so that Sotako would spend eternity never being able to catch "looping Rika" and always being thrown into a completely different fragment. That would have been proper justice.

[@gustavohorn2194]

Exactly. Especially after Eua announced so emphatically to Satoko that this could happen and ruin everything for her. It set a (FALSE!) expectation of what evil Satoko's punishment would be.

[@EndlessMystify]

​@@gustavohorn2194 Agreed, I also expected that this would be the final outcome, especially since it was foreshadowed. But no, instead we got "shounen action fight friendship overcomes all" style ending. My hopes are on the manga, but I haven't been keeping up with that one at all so I have no idea how things are going there.

[@lachimolala0613_]

And she's forgiven😭for torturing FOR YEARS all her friends mentally and physically just to get Rika,like some immature brat she is. But she's still alive and gets no punishment🤡

[@KevinNyaa]

I really wanted to like this new Higurashi story but unfortunately Sotsu butchered the unique and interesting conflict that was set up in Gou and it was very underwhelming. This isn't a deep dive analysis or anything like that but more of my overall thoughts on both seasons with some fun edits! Hope you all enjoy and I'll see you next time!

[@ChromeMagnum]

I feel so bad I knew it wasn't going like the remake so I avoided it, but i hoped I would be wrong 😢

[@yukarinpusteblume6866]

It didnt butchered it xD the last few episodes of sotsu are in between higurashi and umineko... and thats quite amazing... some other fans me including wanted to see a bern lamba fight... and lets hope a new umineko anime will occur

[@statesminds]

@@ChromeMagnum I think it's still worth watching after watching the og series

[@statesminds]

@Hamas Harabi I agree I like higurashi more for the mystery and such but the only way for sotsu to even make sense and be redeemable is to connect it to Umineko lmao

[@gustavohorn2194]

You took all the words out of my mouth with your analysis here. I was watching and eventually shouting to myself, “YES!”, “THAT’S RIGHT!”, “EXACTLY!” at things you pointed out.

[@etam8099]

So let me get this straight: the entire reason Rika had to experience all of that, was because her BeSt FRieNd had problems studying and was scared she would leave her? Just based on the fact that she hangs out with some new people?!

[@oculism5158]

Satoko’s reasoning is a bit more complex than that. Tl;dr by the time she began planning to make rika suffer she was already a witch and could only derive happiness from the pain and suffering of others. She just rationalized it as that in her twisted up brain instead of admitting that she had a sick infatuation for Rika that was rooted into her witch personality and could not do anything else. Hell you could see that she was never actually attacking Rika at first. She was only killing herself and the few times that Rika died she just happened to be caught in the crossfire. Only once we see the witch eyes for the first time does she begin to start wanting to make Rika suffer. Yeah Satoko’s reasoning at first was a bit off but she wasn’t going out of her way to make Rika suffer or anything and her drive was more justifiable, Rika never remembered the loops and it just basically became erased. However once she became a witch she was completely irredeemable. The writers just decided that instead of conveying that witch Satoko was completely void of sanity or logical reasoning they’d have her and Rika argue over who fucked over who more.

[@JuTakii]

@@oculism5158 Christ this story sucked more than I thought

[@oculism5158]

@@JuTakii yeah. director of the second part had no clue what he was doing. there's a reason why gou felt a million times better than sotsu and that reason is "there were 2 directors and one of them just so happened to be an incompetent shmuck"

[@westernharo74822]

@@oculism5158 gou sucked too

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

@@oculism5158 yeah you get it finally with the Witch Part and in the end Scene she leaves her Body and she is now old satako again and finally a Happy end for now...

[@andieallison6792]

I don't understand why Satoko didn't just use her looping powers to retake the tests and do her studies over and over until she got it right, like she did to get the code to the safe/briefcase.

[@mydaloney]

I feel like it was because Satoko was so hyper focused on he singular goal of making Rika stay with her that she couldn't see the most simple of answers which was A) as you just said use her looping abilities to pass(which would have been 'boring' to Eua) or B) simply use her looping powers to talk to rika (which would have also been boring to Eua) You cant forget that all of this is Eua's doing and that if Eua had wanted it, none of this would have happened. Eua allowed Satoko to continue her looping strictly out of sheer boredom, and it's worth noting that when Hanyu performed her miracle, satoko and rika came to an agreement of separating.

[@dogsoldier123]

Because it wouldn't be "fun" for her benefactor plus she hated strict curriculum/atmosphere of st. Lucia.

[@stefanijovita1640]

It's implied in the final episode that she'd done that but she didn't succeed. This is why they should've used their 12 episodes for explaining things like this rather than recapping.

[@andieallison6792]

@@stefanijovita1640 I don't remember that at all lmao

[@Ego-Fiend]

I think that would take forever Looping for each exams

[@EndlessMystify]

I think the part I dislike the most is how Satoko seems to get away with every horrible act she does and gets forgiven in the end without even having to reflect on her actions or say that she's sorry for having treated everyone like disposable NPCs in a game. "Oh, I didn't get the ending I wanted_ guess I'll just reload and do it all over. It's not like anyone will remember." As was mentioned in the video, the amount of suffering Satoko has to endure (I wouldn't even call it suffering, since it comes from her own childish dislike of studying) is not even a drop in the ocean when compared to the suffering Rika goes through. Setting it up to play out as if they are equal is a blight on the series. Luckily, there's a manga being released that picks up where the flashback of St.Lucia begins, called Jyun (or Meguri?). It's supposed to be a canon replacement for Sotsu, so I still have my hopes up of that leading to something better.

[@user-tr9rw7ne8x]

Imo I think it really isn't childish and that she's valid to feel the way she did. What Rika went through doesn't invalidate those feelings. (Satoko never wanted to go in the first place & the only reason she went was for Rika, the work load is probably harder than normally considering the type of school and the fact that there were entrance exams to get in to begin with. Although the series is still at fault for calling their suffering equal and fucked up the ending really badly.

[@Kanaotsuyuri1234]

Don't forget she was abused all this time In her loops. At some point something happened that her uncle didn't abused her anymore

[@sylverpepper]

Source ? The manga name ? Is it canon and official ?

[@EndlessMystify]

@@sylverpepper It's called Higuraashi no Naku Koro Ni: Meguri (Not 100% sure on the final name, since kanji caan be read in two ways most of the time) and for all I know, it's supposed to be officiaal and canon. I haven't checked in on it for almost a year now, though, so I don't actually know how different it is from the anime.

[@sylverpepper]

@@EndlessMystify It's a very good thing ! But for once it's a shame for the anime, in this case I would like an anime adaptation of THIS manga which will certainly be better arranged...

[@usmansubhani7482]

Satoko basically tortures Rika. Her reaction: “I’ll never have a friend better than you.” That’s some next level Yandere logic.

[@tumadre7809]

i suppose thats in character with bern and lambda lmao

[@HallMarkHM]

@@tumadre7809 they are just references.

[@LKelz]

All for wanting to go to a new school !

[@jacobsnellgrove3918]

I hated Gou. From the bottom of my heart I detested its existence, however it atleast entertained me for a few episodes... Sotsu was just a massive fuck you to the viewers and felt like it had no thought behind it at all.

[@westernharo74822]

They did keich, Rena, rika wrong again. Which is like the whole anime I watched before and then shion played a minor role and listen I get she was huge for meakashi hen but still I was surprised she just wasn’t involved. Satoko went too hard etc

[@TheLeaf50]

I'm a Higurashi hater and I'm approve this wise comment.

[@klaasfaak4039]

Jun Maeda and Ryukishi have proven that VN writers should just stick to VN's instead of anime originals.

[@randalljolla]

Facts

[@TheZalor]

Controversial opinion, but add Gen Urobutcher to the list as well. Saya no Uta will always be the best thing he made, although Madoka Magica and Psycho Pass (only season 1) are by no means bad

[@goobermagoob9160]

Counterpoint: Fate and Clannad both had fine anime adaptations, just off the top of my head. I don’t think it has anything to do with VN’s not translating well to anime, more that about 75% of all anime falls somewhere between mediocrity and trash. I was a bit disappointed by the new seasons but overall I enjoyed myself despite the flaws.

[@stefanijovita1640]

@@goobermagoob9160 That's not the point here. It's about VN writers should stick into writing VNs rather than writing another medium they aren't familiar with. Much like novels, VNs aren't constricted by length, but anime is limited by the number of episodes. A good adaptation usually has a professional adaptation writer that knows how to adjust the pacing, while not all novel or VNs writers are trained with another medium's length and pacing.

[@Leukresnt]

Competent director with Stein's Gate anime if not you find trash such as stein gate zero anime.

[@tomo8940]

Reminder that each timeline Satoko destroyed continued on with the survivors being permanently scared and traumatized for life with no answer as to why things ended the way they did in their own timeline fragment.

[@PaperbackWriter92]

Good point. I remember when I was watching Gou (before we learn the real reason behind Ooishi's sudden murder spree at Watanagashi), Rena had met up with Keichii and said, "I'm glad you weren't there. Our friends died. Why did I have to watch?!" Poor Rena... and then we get to Sotsu and find out Evil Satoko was the reason, it was just wtf man?! I did enjoy parts of it. It certainly kept me watching to find out what would happen next but Satako causing all that pain and suffering to everyone was just wrong. And all because she didn't want Rika to leave her. Obviously Rika being stuck in loops that always ended in tragedy was the reason she wanted to go to high school far away from Hinamizawa and Satako made it a thousand times worse for her. Some best friend, but that being said I was shocked when the sequel actually made it to 1984, then 87-88 for their teen years because Rika was always stuck in June 1983 to try and set things right again.

[@DarthTellor]

Satoko was turned into a irredeemable selfish psychopath. They ruined a character using that excuse of a motivation to have a plot.

[@DarthTellor]

Both Gou and Sotsu should not have been made.

[@nicholas6171]

yea man, both are abomination of higurashi

[@ze-prestooo]

I wouldn't have followed this series if it weren't for Gou so I disagree.

[@BlueBonzi99]

@@ze-prestooo You can like something while acknowledging the flaws you know, I personally love Gou/Sotsu but I also understand why some people may dislike it

[@ze-prestooo]

@@BlueBonzi99 I was referring to DarthTeller's reply to his own comment

[@_bess]

I could write a long comment but I'll just say I was nodding along to plenty of this -- I'm also glad somebody else felt the same way about "you" playing at the end of the last episode. I saw a lot of people saying that was one of the few things they were able to enjoy but it felt like such a slap in the face to me. I think SotsuGou's canon status is an interesting conundrum -- seeing as Ryukishi seems to have had little to no involvement in the shows' actual writing, it kind of places them in the same grey zone as a lot of previous content written by other people, including the alternate ending to the visual novel included in the console versions of the game written by Kanou Kiichi. It's generally understood that these arcs carry less "canon" weight than those written by Ryukishi, but it's unlikely this perception will be extended to SotsuGou, not only because many will be unaware of Ryukishi's lack of direct involvement, but because of their status as sequels. They're the Ryukishi-approved "truth" as to how this story continues and thus can't easily be disregarded, yet perhaps would've been markedly different if they'd been written by him. And then there's even the possible new ending being posited by the manga adaptation. The whole discussion as to what's "canon" within the context of a series like Higurashi is a fascinating one and I don't tend to take a binary view, but honestly, I don't blame people for wanting to treat SotsuGou as non-canon and there is a case to be made for that. Just one random tangent. I guess I wrote a long comment after all!

[@KevinNyaa]

I definitely understand you, for me viewing these two seasons as different from the og helps me think back and still have fond memories while not butchering everything afterwards. Gou/Sotsu feels like a standalone spinoff with characters were are familiar with but the surrounding story doesn't feel like the Higurashi we all know and love.

[@kyleco9149]

Nice seeing you here Bess

[@sebp9882]

I must say if Gou Sotsu are really at the level of quality that people say they are then I will consider them non-canon. I don’t ever plan on watching it. I’m a Lambda purist, so I can’t accept how they not only tried to shoehorn Satoko as some sort of ‘piece’ for Lambda and in the process totally character assassinated Satoko too. Never forgiven.

[@theov3rcoat]

I hate how satoko gets away with horrible actions and she’s mad bc Rika wanted her dream??

[@AcetylCoA605]

I stopped watching when Keiichi survived multiple stab wounds, but Rena died after being hit with an alarm clock, all the while laughing the entire time.

[@Remisaku]

​​@redmenort345davis6it's better in the manga he only got hit two or three times

[@lachimolala0613_]

It's like analogy on the whole gousotsu. No logic, just pure magic crap.

[@glowson3844]

WAIT WHAT OMFG

[@SaintCharlos]

Characters in 2006 Higurashi: Have 5 liters of blood Characters in 2020 Higurashi: Have 548903289001359775078649287109378607204085765108517005710421678406513601583038765647105 kiloliters of blood

[@CeceliaIsAWeeb]

I haven’t seen Sotsu yet, but just by those clips of Satoko shooting people… I knew something was very wrong. I don’t mind things being different, but that is uncharacteristically bad for Ryukishi. It seems so needlessly edgy. Like it was written by a teenager.

[@xynium.]

It's Studio Passione. What the hell did you expect, aren't they the studio behind Ishizoku Reviewers or however the fuck you spell it? On the other hand, the manga (gou and meguri) are way better than how the anime was constructed.

[@CeceliaIsAWeeb]

@@xynium. I don’t really pay attention to studios since most of the anime I watch nowadays is just related to things I already like, lol. But yeah I’ll have to check the manga out. I’ve enjoyed what I’ve read of the manga adaptation of the VN, so it seems that it (and Umineko) work much better in text based mediums.

[@chopsandtoots]

@@xynium. except that anime was actually surprisingly well written for a sexual comedy. Good world building, interesting characters, and scenes that are legitimately funny. I've yet to see a real negative take on it. But they failed miserably on capturing what made Higurashi so special in the first place; a psychological horror first and a supernatural horror second (if you consider Hanyuu's backstory canon which basically explains aliens as being the reason for people going berserk). They relied on flashy animation and way too many "here is Satoko looking sinister for the 80th time this arc to show she's the bad guy". What a fail. No mystery, over the top gore that's borderline comical, and horrendous character development.

[@basterdsordsmang7744]

One thing that makes me a bit angry with Sotsu is that it made Gou (which I still quite like) nigh impossible to recommend, unless you're fine with good setup that doesn't end up getting a satisfying payoff.

[@nbr6116]

Agreed. Gou on its own is such an interesting set-up and it hurts so bad that Sotsu just splashed around the same story beats for 11-12 Episodes until they realized they had to wrap it up. If anything it just makes me more excited for the Manga Answer Arcs

[@yedffgd]

Gou was pretty bad on its own.

[@nolongeranobody869]

@@yedffgd true

[@gustavohorn2194]

@@nbr6116 Oh I’ll wait until those are finished and hear what people say about the outcome. Won’t make the same mistake again.

[@BasilBard]

The final fight / sequence was incredibly well animated and visually played with the idea of two people going through time loops fighting in a very interesting way. But Higurashi is NOT the place for that kind of high-octane wizard duel setup. Honestly if the brawl was replaced with something that focused more on the mindgames of the looping than brutality and spectacle of it, AND if it had appropriate setup to hold it up, it could have been interesting. That sliver of the blade being a central Mcguffin for a final confrontation with both girls vying for it and their motivations changing as they became more desperate and worn down by the loops is a much more compelling concept, and the fact it's a missed opportunity now is so frustrating.

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

Yeah the end was a letdown atleast its a Happy end. I Wish her Brother reunite would satako Obsession for Riku begone but waisted opportunity. .

[@robby7499]

Just about everything sucked. We already had the whodunnit, whydunnit, and the motivations. Why have 13 episodes recapping Gou when they could have used that time to develop the two loopers' final confrontation? I mean 14 I thought was only interesting because something actually happened. It's still bad, but it at least gave me some response.

[@dirkdiggler2218]

They pulled a Game of Thrones on us and did a nosedive straight into a big smelly dumpster fire in the last two episodes. Biggest disappointment I’ve ever experienced in an anime.

[@westernharo74822]

They sidelined the sonozakis and made sure keichi wasn’t shit as well 😂😂 I mean I know ryu had nuts but I didn’t know he was gonna just straight up nerf shion lmao but jokes aside let’s just talk about how much better true higurashi fans enjoyed the ending of Kai in comparison to this. In kai you had sonozakis providing a safe house, you had keichi doing everything he could. Rena wasn’t just used as the crazy girl (which is what satoko has become) and maekashi hen was done and over with so we didn’t have to worry about shion smoking the village. All more interesting points of tension than satoko bullying rika for 15 EPISODES AGAIN.

[@2-d_in_a_bag]

@@westernharo74822 ryu didn't write most of this the studio did. he wouldn't do that to us.

[@westernharo74822]

@@2-d_in_a_bag ok good that’s good to know. And now that you say it I was thinking at one point even as soon as episode 7 “they had to have hired new people or something” it didn’t feel right. Not the animation I loved that

[@dirkdiggler2218]

@@westernharo74822 I'm still so mad about it that I bought Higurashi and Umineko on Steam and I'm slowly working on them just to try and replace my memory of the anime's ending. Damn you, Ryukishi07!!! Stop taking my time and money that I willingly give to you!!!

[@westernharo74822]

@@dirkdiggler2218 I’m not giving anymore money think I’m just don’t with the franchise

[@justapun8115]

As a Satoko fan since the original, I was hyped for how Sotsu would have continued the story. Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[@newstart309]

I also was left with a sense of dissatisfaction at the end of sotsu, mainly because of Satoko's relationship with the rest of the cast. I really did not like how Satoko treated the other characters and did not show a hint of remorse or guilt at the end. How can she call herself their friend after she did all of that? It's possible that sotsu is a setup to how these two evolved to the witches they are in umineko but still, they played dirty to the rest of the cast

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

Satako was killed by a Witch who Took over her Body thats explaining. At the end she says "i had enough of this Body" and leaves. I dont believe she could have killed Riku in Episode 16 if she was Not Controlled by the Witch. They should have explained more.

[@FengLengshun]

I'm pretty disappointed because I wanted more focus on the two's relationship too. It's engaging, it felt like watching a divorce happening between two people who are no longer compatible with each others, assisted by a timeloop shaped double-suicide imagery. But then you have genuine superpowers at the end. Guys, we know, they're basically Bern and Lambda, you don't need to adapt their fight too. It was a shame because the fight scene was actually pretty interesting with the 'warps' that hides the amount of deaths they went through. It almost reminds me of a Nolan movie, it's cool. But actual DBZ superpower is just a step too far. And I skipped most of Sotsu after watching the second episode halfway. There are some new parts which is cool like Rina also doing a lowkey mini-Teppei arc, but I wanted more of Satoko vs Rika because we have a good idea already of how Satoko did it considering how she uses her certainty power for game of chances and opening locked briefcase. A shame. Still, the dynamic is interesting for me, as I could get where Satoko is coming from considering how callous Rika would often be, and how hard Eua is egging on her. I wanted more of that, man. Sotsu should have followed Umineko's structure of forgoing the mystery for tbe emotions.

[@stefanijovita1640]

I actually enjoyed the first arc for its atmosphere and Rina's element. I started to skip things in the second arc. Personally, the first arc could be a reintroduction to the series, so I kinda let it pass. The second arc though, made me realize that Sotsu would be full of recaps.

[@sebp9882]

Satoko will never be Lambda’s piece or source of origin. I refuse to accept that. I can’t believe they absolutely mashed Satoko’s character into a pulp. Never forgiven.

[@davisfbislayer69]

I wish keiichi should have been the main attention 😔

[@HiragaSaito1998]

Best boy deserved better.

[@davisfbislayer69]

@@HiragaSaito1998 fr

[@Ara_Ara_Mama]

nope 😂

[@davisfbislayer69]

@@Ara_Ara_Mama this ratio though

[@sketchart7185]

It sucks worse than my gf does

[@gustavohorn2194]

Sotsu is a complete DISASTER. It feels like Ryukishi07 downright confessing that he had blank page syndrome ever since Gou ended. Nowadays I just want to erase those two seasons from my memory, Sotsu especially.

[@stefanijovita1640]

It's funny how so many people defended Satoko and pitied her for breaking into two personalities while it didn't actually matter plotwise. I thought there would be another battle between 2 Satokos, but nope. HumanToko has died, and WitchToko has become Rika's best friends. Yet so many viewers are manipulated to believe that it was HumanToko in the finale who got her happy end.

[@ShuraEssays]

HumanToko and WitchToko hurt me so much as names as a fan of Umineko

[@Night-ec7ef]

Satako did alot of fucked up things and really didn't get punished for anything, and them not going to Saint Lucia together should've been a no brainer since satako didn't like it there. She didn't have to go. So many of the bad things she went through which paled in comparison to rika were her own fault. All the things she did to rika we sooo much worst then anything done to her.

[@pupusukka]

Honestly gou/sotsu kinda felt like that meme of a guy looking at something and completely missing the point of it. "Higurashi but it was made by guys who saw the original anime" but nothing else. So much gore, so much blood and very little plot. In the og VN and anime, there was a tight suspense and when the murder finally happenned, it was more of a neccessary evil, than just "omg look gore!!"

[@Moonbeanie]

You know "Good Satoko" V.S "Evil Satoko" would have been used SO MUCH BETTER! like, maybe this whole concept would have even been used in the Sotsu too. I honestly feel like the Satoko we all have always known was thrown out of window. She was amazingly made antagonist but seeing her being forgiven this easily is ridiculous. Maybe not as ridiculous maybe if somehow there COULD HAVE BEEN 2 Satokos and the one who vanishes off is the bad one. It could have been so much better than what we actually got.

[@rgnarboneta]

I like your take on it and for the most part I agree, though I am a bit more harsh towards Gou than you are, and feel exactly the same with Sotsu. The original Higurashi was a mystery, thriller, and a story about friendship and overcoming hardships together. Then we have Higurasho Gou and Sotsu - a mystery, thriller, and a story that is opposite of the whole themes and messages of the original (that does it in such a dissapointing matter at that). I truly love Higurashi, one of the best VNs I've ever read. However, watching this made me sad. It just goes against what I thought Higurashi is.

[@KevinNyaa]

At a certain point, I just viewed this as it's own thing separate from the original since these two seasons have a very different feel and aren't encapsulating the same story.

[@kozulgaming7349]

Yeah I love old higurashi just about mystery, thriller and story.I never seen new higurashi because many people said it's not that good and because it's opposite than old higurashi style so I don't think I will watch it.for me higurashi series just end at Kai honestly...btw the vn is masterpiece

[@faker5104]

I can’t believe I found you again, we must have the same taste in VN’s. To answer how I knew you were a BBC fan was because in one of the episodes they discussed your question in mailbag and I just so happened to remember you ;>

[@rgnarboneta]

Hahahahha that's great to hear! It's nice to see hobbies intersect and all :^)

[@pdpgb]

I can rationalize Satoko's actions as her just being a shitty character and/or a shitty person but my bigger issue with her in this sequel is her asspull powers. In Rikka's case she's the reincarnation of Oyashiro-sama and with Hanyu's help she can do very limited things, mostly reset time by some amount outside of her control while retaining most of her memories. Still pretty strong but she's a little girl up against a small army and a huge conspiracy so it's acceptable. Then her witch personality formed by her living through over 100 years of death and tragedy. Meanwhile Satoko is a normal human who was mad for stupid reasons, she walked into a shrine and *poof* here you go. Powers even stronger than Rikka's that she can abuse because we need a plot. Also here's the same 100 years of experience in a 10 second montage just for fun. Like how fucking stupid is this? Also 1 single fuck up would supposedly be game over for Satoko yet things just always conveniently go her way to make sure it never happens. Like successfully buying the gun even though she's a child and the person could easily beat her up/kill her and steal her money. Or never getting captured by the Yamainu while sneaking around the clinic. Takano giving up her plan so Satoko never has to actually deal with that obstacle. etc. etc. Then they added the split personality to absolve Satoko's character of all guilt to whatever fans she does have. The split personality leaves at the end which is why Satoko can be forgiven for all the shit she did. Another lazy, boring move. I haven't even gotten into her personality and motives here but yea, Satoko is easily the worst thing about this sequel. Sad too since I kinda didn't mind the new visual style and was pretty exited for more Higurashi. If there's one good thing that came out of it, it's that watching Gou made me actually want to play the visual novel after being anime only for 10+ years and rewatching the series several times. Needless to say I was not disappointed since the anime cut out quite a bit and changed parts around to make the story fit. Also I got the console arcs which are "more Higurashi" except actually good. You get scenarios like Rena, Keiichi and Shion teaming up together to kill Satoko's uncle. Or a remake of the final arc where Keiichi teams up with Rikka to deal with all the girls' problems before taking on Takano instead of that other stuff conveniently working out this time. Honestly couldn't recommend the games more especially to anyone who's already a fan of the series.

[@bjacksd1055]

rikka is just weak and lazy lol. I mean she can do more other than giving hints to other characters. But everyone have their styles Love her anyway.

[@pdpgb]

@@bjacksd1055 Not gonna defend this Rika but original series Rika did try a bunch of stuff to survive early on and nothing seemed to work so she just kinda gave up on it thinking it was fate. It took Keiichi to show her fate could be overcome. But yea if you want to see Rika actually being more active play the Miotsukishi console arc. I recommend the original PS2 version. You can play them all on PC with the 07th-Mod ports.

[@bjacksd1055]

@@pdpgb thanks I will check them out, I do want more higurashi.

[@ShinkuRED]

I really wish they did a full on remake. It's actually amazing how good some of the scenes are in gou compared to the original adaptation, but you couldn't possibly recommend this to someone to consume first in this series. They tried to do two things at once and ended up failing at both.

[@makisekurisu8594]

That was some high level editing with satoko and rika

[@Kyinnoo]

"When they cry more like when they recap" 😂

[@avathorman5781]

Ha ha ha ha…

[@trentonking764]

oHHHH BROTHERRR THIS GUY STANKS!

[@NorthernStarshine]

You echoed my sentiments pretty much perfectly. Gou had such good intrigue to it and I had a lot of fun theorycrafting what could happen, only for Sotsu to completely drop the ball and by the ending just turn into a whole other genre of anime. If this was meant to get people interested in the Umineko world, well... It did the complete opposite.

[@lilmao4482]

I feel like it tries too hard to stick to the "friendship wins all" idea... They literally gave both Satoka and/or Rika to despise each other, only for them to just shake hands and agree to stay friends (Rika you were literally tortured for an entire loop)

[@Atticus_smithereen]

I kinda wish keiichi got the looping powers because he seemed the most curious of the club and I kinda liked him as a protagonist

[@platinumary]

Is it bad I really enjoyed the DBZ fighting and Eua? Especially with he knowledge from Umineko, it made the entire fight scene feel like a battle of "magic" between those two and having eua come back and answer a lot of unopened questions with the whole of the 07 franchise being referenced, I found it really fun. Granted, I agree the first 12 episodes were a **pain** to get through, but the last 3 episodes were something I really enjoyed. I agree with most of your points and criticisms and in my opinion, Sotsu should've been 6 episodes. With a proper, well-paced conclusion; rather than trying to fit everything in the last 3 episodes and cal it a day, also removing the answer arcs entirely as they felt really redundant once you know who the perpetrator is, maybe a couple episodes showing how she planned it all.

[@BoyHedgehog]

SAME!

[@malcolmlane3537]

This is exactly how I feel. I feel like the fight wasn’t too out of place as they both became super powered witches. Also doesn’t Umineko have these kind of fights too?

[@platinumary]

@@malcolmlane3537 It does! Fights like these are super common in the visual novel!

[@goobermagoob9160]

@@platinumary but did they real?

[@platinumary]

@@goobermagoob9160 I believe in magic so it's real in my eyes, I don't know about you though x3.

[@Ggggggggggggggggm]

As a person that used to like higurashi i didnt even bother to watch soutsu or gou i think i like the old one and original much more lol although its not that bad but the ending is just..

[@LordHB98]

The main reason i got so deep into gou/ sotso is cause almost every episode i could scream "Umineko baby!!!!" Cause i thought they were gonna set up a new umineko adaptation. All i want is a good umineko adaptation

[@Kuudere-Kun]

We have a good Umineko ANime, I gave a 10 out of 10 and even among my 10 out of 10s it's high up there one of the elite few that made me cray.

[@lol7998]

Unfortunately we don't have anime adaptation but we have Umineko collaboration with Higurashi Mei🥳

[@LordHB98]

@@Kuudere-Kun the umineko anime is garbage! It no where lives up to the masterpiece that is the vn

[@LordHB98]

@@lol7998 yea thats cool but i mean i dont play mei so i doesnt saceate my need for more umineko content, specifically a good anime adaptation so that i can finally get my friends to see the glory that is umineko

[@Kuudere-Kun]

@@LordHB98 Good thing I wasn't comparing to anything when I watched it, I just watched it as it's own thing and it was a damn good time.

[@lazilyymade]

So I watched the original back in middle school and have been loosely following Umineko and Gou/Sotsu through KZbin videos. I don't know every aspect of the lore, but I know enough to be confident I wasn't the only one who burst out laughing when they had the Super Saiyan fight 😂

[@SolracNexus]

I haven't finished sotsu yet but I hope to god that satoko's acting like that because of the curse. Why? Because I'm pretty sure anyone would forgive rika if they literally watch her 100 years of torture, and it would be understandable not to IF they're under the influence of the curse [Edit: I finished it and it's worse, it's way way worse]

[@mr.goblin6039]

Yeah, the last season felt like they just said ''fuck it, throw in some Umineko stuff for fan service'' and just forgot that you can't just throw that shit in there without making sure people who don't know there's a connection between both. That and just... The whole thing felt ridiculous, more so than usual. For as wild as Higurashi was, it was somewhat grounded in it's story.

[@PetitTasdeBoue]

Satoko is like Catra from the She-ra reboot when you think about it. Toxic relationship in a nutshell

[@nbr6116]

Gou was a 9/10 Build up and Sotsu was a 4/10 follow up. I love Gou and I will forever love it for getting me into the franchise, but due to the way Sotsu went, I'll have to put it into the realm of non-canon spin off. Especially since Ryukishi07 wasn't even that heavily involved to begin with. I will die on the Hill that the first Sotsu Arc was amazing (just for Renas VA and that Junkyard Scene alone), but it's length also was a bad omen for the shows overall pacing. Also I'll say that I LOVE the rendition of You, but I really don't like that they included it at all.

[@SuiteLifeofDioBrando]

Gou started as a predicted remake of Higurashi, but that was really incorrect. I do not care for the main conflict of Gou for Rika leaving her home area when she was do defensive of it in outbreak.

[@ben_sisko2149]

"Sympathetic antagonist" is not how I'd describe Satoko XD. Her "problem" is a nothing-burger and definetely not worth ungutting your best friend over it. I found it imposible to feel anything but total disgust towards her.

[@isauldron4337]

Live a live did this waaay better

[@drawboxing]

Gou and Sotsu is a total mess. 90% of Gou is a watered down version of the original and Sotsu is 90% same with Gou. And the other 10% is Rika and Satoko story with total nonsense even without the dragonball fight.

[@leandromouli]

I started to feel that something was REALLY wrong when the episode of confrontation started. Satoko uses A PLASTIC FORK and A BOOK to hit Rika!!!! I overlooked Rika enduring all her entrails being removed without dying, being stabbed in the neck by Akasaka and surviving, etc. But being stabbed BY A PLASTIC FORK and bleeding A LOT after being hit by A BOOK (and it even wasn't a hardcover!!!!!!!) were too much for me!

[@pinksywedarnoc8017]

Yeah the amount of blood and gore that BLASTS out of everyone was too much, not in like a horrifying way but in a unnecessary and terrible way that never should've happen.

[@gustavohorn2194]

Even Happy Tree Friends wouldn't have its characters bleeding that much from getting hit by a damn book

[@Toetouchers]

I wished they stopped at Kai

[@ShockUzer]

Gou wasn't really good either, not only because it relied on what was going to come in sotsu, but because the execution was as poor as was sotsu's. Gou reuses a lot of animation as padding (i.e. Rika's ritual dance); from episode 2 it's clear that it's a sequel, yet the events are told once again from Keichii's point of view instead of Rika's (making one wonder what the fuck was she doing while the series was happening); Satoko's transition from victim to villain doesn't make sense as it has many holes; Eua is set as a untrustworthy character, yet she really isn't, as all she says is true. It also felt like sotsu in the way that I felt bored in the first half of the series, as is a recap of the original, just with a few new scenes, it was only tolerable because of the new animation and because what would come could be new and interesting, but it wasn't. Seems like the creator had a general idea, but didn't develop it.

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

There more failure was that they had Not 1 Storyline and let the Loop be there it got way to complicated for nothing in the end the whole Plot did Not Work Out

[@vyx_the_grole]

If i understood well, ryukishi only wrote the draft of the story, then the ones at passione made the script of the episodes. So yeah, basically you're right. Ryukishi had a general idea, but passione didn't develop that idea very well. Now there is the manga version of gou and its sequel meguri which is still on going, and which apparently will end differently, so let's hope that ryu's original idea of the plot will be devolepped better here.

[@JoniWan77]

@@vyx_the_grole Honestly, even then it doesn't feel natural at all. It feels more like Ryukishi07 was persuaded to come up with something old-new, so the franchise could be on artificial life-support for a few more years. I guess, that is how franchises go today. They aren't allowed to die and become immortal classics. They have to be kept alive until they ultimately fizzle out into oblivion, since at some point there won't be anything you can add to a franchise without breaking it. It's like Higurashi is going out like Rika would have if she didn't break the loop. This is mostly coming from a guy, who recently read and analyzed the original VNs for the first time and is flabbergasted at the disconnect between them and this.

[@nejikath]

I also hated how underutilized Shion was. In the original serie, Shion had one of the most tragic backstories and most violent arc. In Gou, she is a simple background character whose bigger role in the story is being the target of Mion's jealousy in her arc.

[@Maneru5978]

Bro, the level of trolling here has reached a Fairy Tail level of bad. Especially after episodes 14 and 15. Just ughhhhg

[@JcDizon]

Your thoughts about this sequel is similar to what I think about it. I always wanted to see a new Higurashi story about what happened to Rika's happy ending and I was so happy that the 2020 Higurashi turned out to be a sequel. I was surprised when Satoko turned out to be the new villain and we got to see the backstory about what happened between the two of them and I had high hopes that the conclusion would be so satisfying. But when Sotsu turned out to be mostly just recaps of Gou but in Satoko's perspective and lackluster ending, it was so disappointing. But the manga version of Sotsu called Meguri which just came out seems promising at the moment and it is said that it will have a different answer arc from Sotsu. I just hope that it's not a huge disappointment like Sotsu.

[@kinghoronaldlonowong4892]

I share the same view as you. Do you really believe that r07 write this plot? I don’t think so. Even the manga change the title to meguri and announced the answer arc is different.

[@Haskellerz]

The main problem is that they used the same old formula from the original and it is impossible to get better than the original. They should have ended the ground hog day loop and made some of the deaths permanent. It would be a more interesting story with all of them grown up or adults. Like the main characters becoming grown up detectives solving cases with other groups of characters.

[@Kuudere-Kun]

My issues with SOTSU are almsot the exact of yours. Like at first I was also going "are they gonna have time when they finally catch up" but in hindsight, not there was never any need for a whole nother arc after where Gou left off, everything is explored it's now just time to throw down. The over top fight was fun and it worked. I did want want to see the answer arcs for Gou, but simply don't like what they focused on. Rena's arc was just what I already got in the original, and doing the amount of time spent on on a FOURTH rendition of the child abuse are really grated on me. Finally getting an Arc from Mion's POV was I kind of always wanted, but it got only 3 episodes when it deserved as much time as Shion's got. And then the truly totally new scenarios get no elaboration at all. Yes we went in knowing it's Satoko druggin people, but you can still make interesting stories out of the details of how.

[@wintersknight5553]

The recap stuff in Sotsu really should’ve only been 1 episode per arc, and then instead of getting rid of the split personality thing the way they did, it should’ve been used to turn Rika’s hell into Satoko’s hell too

[@Hellrika]

So glad I didn’t bother finishing sotsu.

[@XFTFX]

They should've stopped Gou earlier, maybe up until Satoko's gun point. It might've made many fans angry at that time but hey, at least the continuation is confirmed anyways. The timing would've been good, or even better if Satoko's lucia depression is shown later and we see Satoko's evil first. I just felt like revealing Satoko is too early, and made fans lose interest quickly by Sotsu's start. It's not the case with the OG that while it "crosses off" to Kai in season 1, it's not until the middle of Kai anime that the culprit is revealed. And Matsuribayashi definitely didn't take just two episodes.

[@lezardex6335]

I'm pretty sure the author Ryūkishi07 wanted to make a "Bridge" between Higurashi and Umineko in anime with Rika and Satoko and the Witches. Was it necessary? No. One of my friends who like Satoko cope with the fact that Featherine broken her and made her that way. But yeah It made me dislike Satoko and it lessen all the suffering Rika went througt. It was very clumsy. Original Higurashi message for me is " You can create any miracle and change destiny if you bet your everything on it, with the help of everyone." They tried to do that in Gou Sotsu but it failed so hard because Satoko was horribly written.

[@CatChaos369]

The fact they mentioned Satako having to live in a world where Rika never existed if she dies before Rika and it’s never paid off? This could have been the time she reflects and seen that she’s was being ridiculous and you don’t have to spend every waking moment with a friend she has other friends back home? See Rika have to come to terms with seeing her closest friend be corrupted after feeling betrayed and alone just like the first big bad of the series and have to journey to choose between condemning or forgiving her while Satako is in her own no Rika world where assuming the entire village would hate her still?

[@george52797]

I always felt like the original was unintentionally scary/eerie, higurashi's charm. Now theyre trying too hard with the facial expressions/ voice acting etc. Feels like it was directed by an edgy teenager

[@goldenboi9684]

Man when i saw the op for Sotsu I was hyped because when they show the group of friends with their faces covered in a shadow I was like "I bet satoko will use them against rika" and I waited until I realize the series ended

[@backyarddad4198]

As someone who watched the old shows, ovas, and new shows all in a row, gou and sotsu feel as similar to eachother as the original season and kai. The question/answer arc format is just how that works. It probably sucked week to week to wait for peanuts, but watching it all in a span of time made it feel pretty natural to how the old show worked. It felt more like suspense and tension building because i could just go from episode to episode and i got to the finale before i could get frustrated with the content.

[@thechosenflutterbox]

I think the big thing they were trying to do with the ending of sotsu is put in as many umineko references as they could, without straight up saying that the two are connected. I don't mind, as it can kinda serve as the backstory to some of its characters, and imo connecting the two together is just really cool to me, but I can understand the frustration of someone who doesn't care about that and wants higurashi to be its own thing. The dbz/witch fight was cool though, I was laughing from excitement at how the writer was able to pull that off and still have it somewhat make sense when you consider 'when they cry' as a whole

[@sebastianswan7975]

I have not watched sotsu yet, but from watching Gou, I loved the dynamic between Satoko and Rika since Satoko's conflict with Rika have more to do with what have always been there for Satoko, which was her own abandonment issues. We already seen this in Higurashi in even the question arcs, her reaction to what seems to her to be Rika slowly not caring for her as much anymore was similiar to how she reacted to K1 at the end of Tatarigoroshi hen, Satoko's transformation comes out of her own repressed trauma, which I find is how lots of the characters not just in Higurashi, but in other Ryukushi07's works like Umineko put emphasis on. On your criticism of Sotsu, though I haven't watched it, I disagree about even measuring suffering for both Rika and Satoko, one of the greatest themes for Higurashi as a whole is empathy, it doesn't matter who suffered more or less, both at the end of the day suffered, and that's enough to at the very least try to understand their own perspective, I also do feel that you're minimizing Satoko's reasons for going over the edge, it does not excuse her horrendous actions, but from her own past, it is understandable. Then again, I haven't watched Sotsu, so my opinion can change, overall, I like this video.

[@loren5432]

The only message I got from Gou/Sotsu is that the show participates in victim blaming seen as how Teppei is an abuser who actually got reedemed while Satoko faked her situation in these new arcs as an abused person and actually enjoyed putting her friends through literal hell (and that's not counting the show's gaslighting attempt at trying to make Rika look bad in the end even though she wasn't the one who trapped her BFF in a death loop). Like I get the idea because on paper throwing the word "empathy" willy nilly sounds wonderful, but in reality it doesn't work like that. I'm not going to have empathy for a serial killer just because they had a rough childhood; yeah, it sucks, but having a troubled past isn't a free get out of jail card. They're still shitty people who deserve to be punished for fucking over others that had nothing to do with their situation (in this case: Satoko fucking over the club members mostly and a few of the adults). It really irks me how some people have the nerve to compare Rika and Satoko's situation when Satoko is the one who crossed the line with the whole looping situation. It's as if the word "morality" is all over the place just because "empathy" is thrown in.

[@sebastianswan7975]

@@loren5432 Sotsu does not sound very good then in that case. So it's just Rika and the rest of the club murder simulator? Also yeah, you don't need to sympathize with her at all, just understand how she can go over the edge, for instance I regard the majority of the cast in Umineko as shitty people, at the same time lots of them weren't exactly predisposed to be good people.

[@loren5432]

@@sebastianswan7975 Well, Sotsu's score is low to begin with (6.9) and it keeps getting lower each day, so there's that. 12 of the 15 episodes are basically Gou with 5 mins of Eua/Satoko thrown in for the lulz, with only the last 3 episodes being actual new content (they literally spoonfed the viewers because they were afraid of us not being smart enough to put two and two together). Without spoiling too much, the first two arcs serve no purpose (Wataakashi being the worst arc because it's a worse version of Meakashi), the club members literally don't do shit and have no reason to exist (they only throw stupid lines about friendship even though they're kept in the dark as to what actually happened the entire time) and Rika's and Satoko's situation isn't actually resolved in a satisfying manner. Then there's the ending which is basically what you would get if you were reading a kid's book that ends in "happily ever after".

[@stefanijovita1640]

@@sebastianswan7975 I get where you're coming from as you haven't watched Sotsu yet, but the video compared Satoko's and Rika's suffering because Sotsu made it as if Rika's torture, death, and her friends' death was what Rika deserved, not Satoko's fault. Personally, I won't compare their suffering because what they suffered was their own biggest fear. What I'd compare though, was their intention. I believe Rika never intended to deliberately hurt Satoko by abandoning her, but we know Satoko intended to break Rika. Despite this, you'll only get Rika's apology, not Satoko's.

[@emilyphillips7249]

I used to love Satoko. She was a week, scared girl but she grew and got stronger. She went through wonderful character development. But in the new show the writers threw it all away because of what? The idea of Satoko vs Rika was cool at first but if you think about it, it could never work. They would have to ruin one of them, and they did. Instead of being the strong girl that Satoko grew into during the 2006 adaptation she was no a selfish bitch that cant take responsibility for ANYTHING she does. Putting the person she "loves" through hell... no #notmySatoko

[@isauldron4337]

It's archaon syndrome but way worse

[@camphorwood]

i was so confused watching the ending and found it fucking hilarious at the same time, my expectations of higurashis ending got yeeted and was given a magical girl fight

[@TheGoldenAlchemist86]

I’m so confused why they choose to make the recap so damn long when it could have simply been summed up in 5 episodes max. The idea behind the crazy dbz like fight was solid and could have worked but there was no build up to it. Those episodes could have just been a ova since they didn’t want to actually put in new content

[@mephbow]

didn’t even bother finishing sotsu. only watched the last episode for satoshi when he woke up out of his coma, but even that wasn’t satisfying. idk. when higurashi introduced characters like hanyuu and eua i couldn’t even take the series seriously anymore. i don’t pay attention to rei/kai/kira because it all felt so silly and insulting. like hey how and why did we get a dbz styled fight with loli gods??

[@mr.applejuice8546]

The best analogy I can give for this shit show of sotsu is if the writers were writing a amazing essay for their class only to get to the conclusion paragraph and not knowing what to do

[@wfmstigers]

A lot people have been hating on the answer arcs, but I personally really liked them for the most part. It gave some more context and you got to see some truly upsetting scenes, and it highlights the lengths satako was willing to go to fuck with Rika. There was a lot to be desired obviously, but scenes like Rena continuously digging holes for the body, Rina and Teppi’s redemption, Mion’s type of crazy, and the absolute each character had to endure. It was a good watch in those bits, but more obviously could have been done to keep them interesting.

[@nemodog6977]

That's why I dropped it at the last episode of gou

[@westernharo74822]

Me too

[@VladimirLorenzo-k4k]

Gou and Sotsu were also a sort of prequel to Umineko that also relies on the viewer to have played through that VN, as both of these seasons heavily imply that they are the story of Bernkastel and Lambdadelta's origins, as well as including Featherine without really explaining who she is and why she's such a frightening opponent. So not only do these seasons detract from the original Higurashi, but also from Umineko as well

[@ahhufinaa5440]

I actually discovered higurashi through gou and even tho I didn’t watch the original 2006 series and everything, I still knew that the writing was all over the place

[@denisalvarez7354]

that frying pan scene made me laugh wayy tooo much 😭😭😭

[@AarenYASS]

When the satoko split personality was shown, i thought it would lead to some epic showdown of Rika (and friends?) going to save her from the demon counterpart. Rika says the serious version of herself is her true self, and that does add up, but there's no way the Satokoni is the real satoko (as the split demonstrates) and she completely rejects herself. Also she shot herself, so how did she "give her the body back" when she was supposed to not exist anymore? It wouldve made more sense for Satoko to be tied up and not hanyu. (also why was Hanyu super curvy now, seems like a weird design decision of all things they couldve done or changed. someone was horny af for Hanyu). It honestly pissed me off that everyone else's memories didnt play a part in it like the OG series either. They were treating keichi like the MC again, only to focus on Rika and Satoko (which isnt bad) and he had memories from before but that didn't go anywhere either. Rika had some piss poor advice to give to. it's true she suffered but i think Rika didn't do enough to help with those timelines anyway, even if she couldn't predict the cause/ slight deviations from what she already knew. The fact that she didn't catch keichi's memories and ask him for help again baffles me. THey also got LAZY with some of those "let me inject this person this early and see what they do" scenarios. Wtf did they say to Mi/shions mom? What did they do to keichi? Some of them start off reasonable and snowball out of control (as the syndrome does) but how could keichi come to the conclusion "hey bashing in my friends heads is super fun!" that doesnt make sense at all. The presentations VS reality of what happened with the Child services scenario with the uncle batting keichis brains out urked me too (cuz it didnt actually happen). I SUPPOSE i accepted it but just felt like they didnt know how to twist that set up how they wanted when it came to explaining it so they instead used Satoko's story. That's a cop out. With those fragments, i feel like they missed out on Rika finding the shard about their "future" and seeing just how much Satoko suffered when Rika essentially abandoned her. Sure, the suffering wasnt equal at all, but it seems Rika was never able to actually understand just how terrible she had been to her best friend. They couldve cut out some of the clingy cringe early. IT honestly felt like watching the final Sasuke VS Naruto fight but without all the part that make it meaningful. They were even punching eachother in the face in water for cryin out loud! Feels like someone took the iconic scene and inserted Rika and satoko but forgot to add all the parts that have it make sense. The lesson about friends is important and i do like how the older kids had to come in and teach it to Rika and Satoko to show them just how childish they were being (despite being century old loopers or w/e) but everything leading up towards that was just poorly executed. The ending feels so cold, insincere and unsatisfying. It's actually unnerving because Satokoni is giving Rika a break but still obsessed with her and Rika still feels disgust (which makes sense but its also like they didnt really make up. Idk. I mean understandable but... not good) . I never wouldve thought that Satoko's uncle would be the saving grace of that ending. Also Satoshi waking up was nice i guess even though we didn't see more. -

[@NagumoHaruya]

everytime i hear people talking about Higurashi Gou and Sotsu they always say to watch the original version first and not all of them imply this but it's very obvious why they recommend this because the newer Higurashi is confusing and bad in so many ways. if you have watched the original 1 then you realize how much they ruined Satoko as a character and alot of her actions and sudden changes in personality just make no sense at all...even the rest of the cast are a shell of their former selves if you replaced all of them except Rika and Satoko it won't even affect the story at all.

[@keansum1015]

Oh men, I hope there's a continuation... I want more

[@statesminds]

I enjoyed some of it. Buttt yeah it fell on its head at the end. The fact that Shion amd Urie weren't in Sotsu storyline really and had more stuff than just repeating Gou but from other pov. I really think the only way for it to even be somewhat redeemable if it connects to a new unineko anime

[@ЦветковВасилий-я9с]

Am I the only one who wanted them to adapt the OG vn word by word?.. I mean it’s possible since there are no choices. Still it would take too many episodes to make this a reality

[@goldengagster9]

Can't wait for all the fix fics for Sotsu lol

[@aliedesti5538]

The hot pan though. I felt that one hit

[@garrabella89]

Straight trash. They should of just remade the original and added additional stuff. I was so disappointed

[@camghan]

all i gotta say is... i cant believe i waited every thrusday for sotsu

[@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd]

best thing i can hope for the higurashi series is a new chapter or an anime that's met positive reception. or having sotsu gou getting fixed and met with also positive reception. that's just idea (if that becomes a reality then i'm a monkey"s uncle lol)

[@kaismessiahbaby755]

Is this that show called 'when they cry'? I haven't watched yet I haven't had the chance but I've been meaning to.

[@Phantom-kc9ly]

Rub your eyes because it literally answers this if you bothered to watch the video

[@kaismessiahbaby755]

@@Phantom-kc9ly learn some common sense asshole. Maybe I didn't watch the whole video because I didn't wanna spoil it because I haven't watched it, which is why I asked what show it was. Is it necessary to be a complete dickhead to someone for asking a logical question?

[@theshadowmaster2702]

I think the lesson here is that not all stories have a good ending. I don’t personal want to start a story if I know it will end like this but I know there’s people who are interested in dark stuff like that.

[@rainischalk-late3540]

*The only good thing that came out of Gou and sotsu was making read the masterpiece called Umineko, and seeing other characters* But I kinda rather have a remake than.....whatever this is

[@kawaiichan1997]

I JUST REALIZED YOUR PFP IS RENA OMG IM SO DUMB LMAOKDJD I CANT BELIEVE IM JUST REALIZING THIS NOW 😭😭

[@KevinNyaa]

Who did you think it was? HAHA

[@Ulta_Nagenki]

It was a disappointment. It went flat when it could have arose to do something amazing but, it's just a spin-off. I hope that when Mei is translated it'll be something nice to wash off the bad taste that Sotsu left. But hey, I got some more Rena out of it!

[@westernharo74822]

Yeah well that’s Great i got no shion, no mion, no kasai, no keichi.

[@felipeaguena5289]

Guess I should be happy I only stuck with the original visual novel?

[@ScarletxP]

I've been waiting for this O: !

[@demonslayereren3970]

Satoko and Eua should be transformed to nothingness particles, for justice

[@moonbeam3431]

It’s too bad. I loved the original.

[@ebber4016]

Tbh, I just wanted the other club members to have like, any relevance at all. Sotsu would still be bad, but at least no as bad.

[@wyattguilliams9479]

Clicks video 30 seconds in...... my mind ""SO THIS IS THAT CRAZY ANIME WHERE THE BLUE HAIRED GIRL RANDOMLY SLAMMED HER HEAD INTO A KNIFE!!! STILL HAVE NO FLIPPING CLUE WHY!!""

[@garingaming9308]

Sotsu is the most mixed I've ever been with any anime I've watched first I loved it then I disliked then I hated it and wished it was done differently I tried my best to love it like I did the original but I just couldn't It felt like no love was put into it non of the characters were utilized and I could probably keep going but I don't wanna turn this into a essay

[@domingosjunior6805]

The problem is that is too short My second favorite Higu Series since the Original,I love the gore

[@notortoiseaed]

GOU: A murder mystery in different timelines Sotsu: Naruto Vs. Sasuke