The Producers (2005) Is Good, Actually

[@yournamehere6002]

Take a drink every time you hear the word "literally"

[@RakeeshJ4]

I don’t see near enough love for the film remake, and it was rad to see a thoughtful and thorough analysis of it, and its weaknesses, and the contrast. Thanks for sharing!

[@dowekeller]

I loved this movie because it was like seeing a musical at a theater when I wasn't able to do that.

[@mayabowman4577]

The original is one of my favorite movies, but it was just ACHING to be a musical. I'm surprised Mel Brooks didn't think it could be turned into a musical at first.

[@kevsnotdeadyet]

Wait...Nathan Lane is gay? WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN!?!

[@queencokefrancis]

Nathan is our Broadway waifu

[@quietnerdything]

Since he dressed in drag and did a hula.

[@daelen.cclark]

@@quietnerdything Even before then.

[@christhornycroft3686]

Speaking as a straight guy, I love this version. Gene Wilder is great in the original, but as an avid viewer of Queer Eye since the early 2000s (because without those 5 guy dudes I never would have learned how to dress), seeing Jai Rodriguez from the original show as a random dancer was hilarious. And Nathan Lane, a gay guy playing a randy straight producer hitting on little old ladies cracks me up every time. He's still Nathan but he throws himself into the role and I just die laughing. The original is the original and I get why it's a classic, but there's something that just works about this as a musical. And even as a straight man, John Barrowman's brief appearance as a nazi in the stage play of Springtime cracks me up. I really miss Torchwood as a show. I wasn't a huge fan of Miracle Day because it lost it's Britishness, which made it unique and interesting, but the other 3 series, especially Children of Earth are some of the best TV dramas I've ever seen. Eve Myles is tremendous too.

[@DannyBedo]

My wife died at your phantom of the opera reference. Mathew Broderick is an American treasure that’s wildly under appreciated. Mel Brooks is a god who deserves the highest levels of respect and IMO should have all of his movies made into musicals 😂😂

[@dalantemaes3277]

This was phenomenal, there should be waaay more likes on this video.

[@m3rrys0ngstr3ss]

All I know is that this was how I was first introduced to the Bialystock and Bloom partnership, and for that I'll be eternally grateful.

[@alexr3156]

ive been avoiding this movie my whole life and now im not. hell yeah, you made a difference in this world

[@satoncho]

Both versions of the Producers are awesome, this is why there will only be one Mel Brooks.

[@asmith9349]

You’re right about everything. I love this movie and always will. Nathan Lane singing Betrayed is some masterful shit.

[@Unagodd]

I don't like musicals, but I do like song-plays.

[@queencokefrancis]

close enough

[@Unagodd]

@@queencokefrancis Sadly, you can't do gifs in KZbin comments, so I didn't even look for a gif of Bill Hader scream-singing in A Taste for Love. :,-(

[@NarcissaDeville]

You know it is funny that you brought up that it's the best musical to show to people who dislike musicals because I really don't care for musicals as a rule BUT I really loved the Producers when I saw it and it still holds up IMO.

[@rabidphantomfan]

Saw this version first and when i learned it was a remake, i was so excited to watch the original! I ended up watching 15 minutes before turning it off in disappointment. I think ppl tend to look down on remakes on principle. If they bothered rewatching the first Producers i bet they'd realize it doesn’t hold up :( especially since its not even a musical

[@puckkrz01]

WAIT SAME. OMG. I was soooo bored in the original movie. It’s very slow, BUTT I will say the jokes are done very well!

[@internetfox]

i know it doesnt get the views but i love your media review content :)

[@thegardenoffragileegos1845]

Mel Brooks inadvertently predicted the future of entertainment.

[@leftofpunk]

Yup, middle aged straight guy here, and really love The Producers (and Little Shop of Horrors).

[@DylanFergusC]

I watched both of these movies over and over again for a bit. I agree with your assessments of the actors. Personally, I love the simple filmmaking that makes the movie more like a stage show. Not everyone gets lucky enough to see live theatre, so any film of a classic musical is a benefit. Big fan of your media choices so far.

[@SweetJimmee]

I do agree that the newer version of the movie is more fun, and in many ways that you mentioned more palletable than the original. But for me, the funniest part of the original movie was the inclusion of the original hitler actor Lorenzo St. Dubois (LSD). The humor of having a drugged up beatnik hippie play hitler was so bizzare and unexpected, and in my opinion way less predictible than how they did it in the 2005 remake. The whole broadway scene in the original film made me feel like I was on drugs in the best way. Just seeing Adolf Hitler act loony and have absolutely no clue what's going on around him, and seeing the author's reaction to it and trying to shut the play down; the execution of that was perfect and I couldn't stop laughing. Compare that to the 05 version, where they only showed the overture of the play, and a few quick cuts of Hitler acting flamboyantly; to me it just doesn't even come close to being as funny. They really missed out on the best part of the original movie. Honestly, I wish I could combine the palletability and tastefulness of the 05 version with the absurdity and the hitler portrayal of the original version

[@queencokefrancis]

I will say that upon rewatching the OG as an adult (I was 12 when I first saw it) Hippie Hitler was a lot funnier than I remembered haha

[@shawnpeterson2498]

This is my all time favorite musical. I also enjoyed your critique.

[@neobretsmith360]

You gotta give Dick Shawn credit as LSD for providing us with one of the funniest exchanges in perhaps the film. LSD: Is This Where They're Auditioning Boomerang, Baby? Carmen Ghia: I'm afraid you wondered into the wrong theater. LSD: Oh man, not again! Freak out! Freak Out! I love how he says "not again". As though this is a frequent occurrence for him 🤣 The Producers 1967 humor is so subtle that I didn't appreciate all the nuance until watching the film multiple times. I absolutely love how heartfelt and genuine the friendship between Max and Leo is throughout the original. They start off as polar opposites who want nothing to do with each other. But as they grow closer you see the trust between the two grow stronger too. Especially in moments like Leo allowing Max to use is special blue blanket so max could comfort himself. Or how Leo apologizes for calling Max fat fat fat fatty. Those sweet moments are why I love the 1967 one. Zero Mostel and Gene Wilder worked so well off each other. How amazing is the line "You think you're not in prison now? Living in a grey, little room? Going to a grey, little job? Leading a grey, little life?" That's right. I'm a nothing. I spend my life counting other people's money. People I'm smarter than. Better than! Where's my share, where's Leo Bloom's share? I want... I want... I want everything I've ever seen in the movies! I'll do it! I'm Leo Bloom, I'm me! I can do anything! Leo and Max brought out the best and worse in each other and I love how by the end they become better people and find their value in life once more. I other words they become free from their metaphorical shackles even though by the end they are both in actuals shackles. 🤣 And as the song Prisoners in Love goes "Oh you can lock us up and loose the key, but hearts in love are always free" Both are great but the 1967 one is just a masterpiece!

[@queencokefrancis]

I do agree that Gene Wilder was a superior Leo

[@quantafreeze]

I wholeheartedly agree. It's not perfect but I still love it.

[@jessaminemanchester]

I love the original 1967 producers and have been a bit wary about checking out the remake since I've heard mixed reactions but this video sold me on it, I'm so excited to see all the things you highlighted! Also, I'll always remember when we watched the original movie in one of my film classes in college and our class discussion somehow got on a long tangent about how Bialystok and Bloom basically fall into the character dynamics of a typical romcom and some of the homophobic jokes included are essentially just to distance from that connection. I've been considering making a video essay on that point for a while but I've never gotten around to it, maybe the 2005 movie will be able to add to my perspective on that topic

[@queencokefrancis]

if anything just watch it for Nathan Lane

[@thelostone6981]

Haha! Thanks for reading my comment! I’m literally blushing right now. But you are doing a great job and deserve much success. I’ve enjoyed your videos and think you will continue to grow as a channel. Stay über cynical Coke Francis!

[@daddydevito4405]

Apparently me as a kid (like 8 years old) loved this movie and even went to see it live. That being said if you asked me to tell any of the plot I wouldn’t be able to

[@johnsummers9660]

Love your videos!

[@williamdavies-d8m]

The only thing I can say is this. They are not the same movies. One is about a musical and one is a musical so they can't be judged as the same. I do have to agree about musicals, there is always a place as long as there people like you

[@Deep_Sea_Blue]

This was my first musical so this movie has a special place in my heart!

[@brodaciousmax8025]

I'm not sure how I missed this gem. I'll fix that soon!

[@themagicofd]

Great video Coke. I love that movie too. Its good to see the younger generation getting into Mel Brooks. Id love to see your take on some of his other work. see ya next vid!

[@donovandelaney3171]

Ula not ending up in jail in this one makes no sense.

[@NoahSpurrier]

The remake was poorly edited, but it had some great scenes.

[@donovandelaney3171]

And now it's Springtime for Elsa and Arendelle. Arendelle is happy and gay. Our ships are sailing once more. Springtime for Elsa and Northuldra. Watch out US, we're going on tour.

[@swanchamp5136]

From what i understand it was purposely filmed this way to make it feel more like watching a broadway musical, it was supposed to be part of the joke that you're watching the musical film version of the broadway show based on the film about broadway producers. The making off talks about how acting in a film and on stage is different as on stage they have to be more excentric with their actions so people at the back can see ehile that's not needed in film they needed to find the balance that you were watching a broadway musical while still watching a film. I do love this film and both this and the original have their own special moments. So random that John Barrowman appears randomly in it for a brief moment as an officer singing on stage with bleached blonde hair.

[@carycoombe3380]

This made me re-consider my decision not to watch "The Producers". I will have to give it a watch. And you are very entertaining.

[@labrxx]

I listen to Coke Francis when I’m donating plasma and as she was talking about Big Bang Theory I realized there was an episode on the TV above me.

[@rct3LP]

Just found your Channel and really enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work :) I'm on Mel Brooks side that you need to laugh at Groups like Nazis and their completely stupid ideology but at the same time we need to watch out that we do not underestimate them and still realize the danger to society and democracy they are.

[@sparky3574]

Good? No. It’s exciting! I watched this in a high school music class and got really intrigued by the music, as well costumes they wore. Soon enough when I came home I listened to the songs constantly. As well made me watch more movies with musical moments.

[@evanlinden4410]

Jewish theatre kid here, Mel Brooks was my childhood.

[@glitch42]

I need more musicals. It's election season, and I deserve to be happy

[@yararivera2909]

I love this movie so much

[@Mark_o_Helm]

12:38 What? No! I 💖 TBBT. 🥺

[@Mark_o_Helm]

10:00 i totally agree. Music makes everything better. Have you seen George Lukas' "Strange Magic"? It might be a Jukebox Musical, but the music makes it fun for me.😊

[@KiaraStrings]

While I like the original movie more, I like the points you make about the remake. I watched both movies in one day during college and I was surprised that the original was NOT a musical. The original made me laugh so much more. Maybe it's because I grew up with that kind of humor while my sense of humor leaned towards the remake, I don't know. I'm not a doctor. The remake, while I liked a little less, has its funny moments. Mostly from Nathan Lane aka the reason why I wanted to watch the remake in the first place. Lane was my acting hero when I was a kid and probably a reason as to why I had the personality I did when I was a kid. The remake was fine, though Broderick got a little under my skin. Some performances can be translated well from stage to film but sometimes that is not the case. Some of the actors seem a little restrained upon another viewing. Not quite Mike Myers as The Cat In The Hat restrained but it's like a part of them are holding back. So, the result with the remake, in my opinion , is rather mixed. As for the Big Bang Theory, the reason I think it's not a good show, is not only for its execution, nor the laugh track. It is because the scripts are WRITTEN as a laugh track show. If it was a theatre production, it would be one thing. But as a broad TV show about nerds, it misses the mark. The show is like when Chris Cornell released a hip hop album with Timbaland. Incredibly painful to experience and you wonder when it's going to end. I really like your videos. I hope you keep up the good work and hope your health keeps up.

[@queencokefrancis]

I rewatched the original for the first time since middle school before I wrote the script for this and it was WAY funnier than I remembered, Gene Wilder is the 🐐

[@KiaraStrings]

@@queencokefrancis Gene is celebrated but at the same time underrated. His performances have many layers that make him compelling. I think that's why I like him better than Broderick, who is a good THEATRE actor. But as a movie actor...he's mixed at best. I'm beginning to think that Ferris was one of the few times he's played against type. Gene was versatile as sin. (thinks of idea) Hmmmmmm...

[@FormerlyDavid]

About TV shows with laugh tracks: if you're aware of the "Mama's Family" sketches on the Carol Burnett Show, the writers literally relied on audience laughter, real or canned, to make them funny. This is not a criticism. Watch a sketch with the laughter intact, and it's a funny bit. Same sketch, same performance, no laughter, it becomes a horrifying look into people who hate each other to the depths of their souls but can't escape, so they do their best to destroy each other. The laughless version, unlike Big Bang Theory, is still a strong scene. You just react differently depending on whether or not the laugh track gives you permission to enjoy it. Love The Producers, love Mel Brooks, love musical theater.

[@catsmom129]

I thought hippie Hitler was (also) gay Hitler. He always read as queer coded to me.

[@SagemaGrindset1894]

It really is good, actually. 👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌. I'll never forget back in 2012 was it, discovering this movie one afternoon afterschool at home by just switching between channels on my TV when i suddenly see that Swastika circular march scene seeing what looks like nazi uniformed soldiers, adolf hitler, and a curly blond woman clad in broadway esque blue bedazzle clothing singing exactly the verse "SPRINGTIME FOR HIIITLEAAAR" it immidiately caught my eye i was like wtff is thiss why are a bunch of nazi clad actor singing 😂😂😂what is this movie aboutt, and my eyes were gluuued right till the end and loveeee ittt. after that i went to youtube to watch clips about it from the beginning of the movie.

[@marccashman3737]

Why the slightly different intro, Francis?

[@queencokefrancis]

because standing is a waste of time

[@iamgoingtodeckyoutwo5966]

Um. South Park, Bigger Longer Uncut

[@RoxBelleATL]

I know it's sexist but I'd take a job go-go dancing in a Broadway production office in a heartbeat

[@SirCamera]

Very fair point. Wish this was my job.

[@queencokefrancis]

honestly same

[@yournamehere6002]

The joke is actually funny that she can't do anything but dance and barely speak English.

[@catsmom129]

It’s also making fun of the idiot men who hired her for the wrong job

[@Danarchy3]

The producers 2005 is good. If you've never seen the original, or any other movie ever

[@jonm3427]

"Best musical for people who hate them" It's definitely an exception to me generally not liking the genre.

[@pyromania1018]

I disagree, but to each their own.

[@a.t.c.3862]

Homosexual Hitler is so much funnier than the dated 'hippie' Hitler.

[@StratsRUs]

No it ain't