The Propel Ruckus Experience: From Scepticism to Skateboarding Bliss 🛹💡

In this review, I share my initial frustrations with the Propel Ruckus and how I eventually turned things around by mastering its setup. Let's dive into the highs and lows of this innovative electric skateboard! 🤘
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[@mikemenard4543]

Mike from Propel here. Some beautiful scenery out there. Looks like a great place to ride. Really glad you took the time to get to know the board and get dialed in to discover the precision of mobility we engineered into Ruckus. I really think we are going to see a Ruckus make the podium at next year’s ESK8con in one of the categories. You need precise movement to navigate that track and we think Ruckus has it. When we first launched Ruckus we almost purposely downplayed its potential light AT in part because we shipped 7 inch street tires but also because we make Endeavor and the AWD X4R. However, even our more street-focused lineup is certainly light AT off road (Pivot and Ruckus) capable. Channel trucks are great off road and your video is making me want to throw my 7 inch endeavor tires onto my Ruckus and taking mine off road more to enjoy the BVr flex.

[@yohvh]

Hey Mike. I've got the propel pivot gt 2 in 1. And it seems I've got almost triple the range on my board with street wheels. When I put on my 150mm wheels. The resistance is alot. No free rolling at all. And I only get 37kms on a battery. Do you figure the belts are too tight? I was running at the recommended 25psi. (But had a flat already)

[@mikemenard4543]

@@yohvhThe polyurethane wheels are going to give you the best range for sure but if you’re looking for sort of a hybrid in feel and range have a look at Iwonder’s Cloudwheels Rovers 110s. They offer a Propel kit that I personally have on my own Pivot. Comes with bearings, speed rings, pulleys, everything you need to get setup and it’s a nice in between spot between PU and pneumatics. Low center of gravity, decent free roll, but softer than our stock PU wheels and many PU wheels. You may also want to contact Mad and have a look at the Mad wheels. People rave about them and I’ve seen several of our Pivot owners buy them and love them also.

[@nerm8310]

@@yohvh Nah, nothing to do with belts. 150mm wheels are pretty small therefore the motors have to work harder and therefore your top speed will suffer. I made that mistake and went right back to stock wheel size. (I believe they're 200mm)

[@SinCityEsk8]

This board checks all the box’s,good price,good features,good power and range. some razzle dazzle!!and good customer service🎉🎉 well done propel

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

yes sir. A lot of bang for your buck

[@RelativelyAttractiveMan]

Just ordered mine. Cannot wait. I've been riding an OG Zealot for the past 3 years. I've kinda fallen off because road conditions aren't the best and sometimes I just don't wanna throw the board into the car get in traffic just to ride on a crowded bike path. With this I can easily cruise my suburb no problem.

[@dailylife6935]

Have you received yours yet? I’ve been waiting 3 weeks and now they aren’t even responding to emails. The website is still advertising order today and receive by Father’s Day. I’m not happy at all with them or the customer service. They haven’t responded to my emails and I’m about to dispute the charges on my credit card!!! 😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@RelativelyAttractiveMan]

@@dailylife6935 it took five days to get a reply. The site said shipping from US warehouse. They replied it's being shipped from China so expect 35-50 days!!!! I would NOT have ordered if I had known that I'm so fucking annoyed

[@RelativelyAttractiveMan]

I even told them I was annoyed. They didn't offer a refund or any sort of like "hey for your trouble we will send an extra pair of belts" or something along those lines. I'm mad because i would've saved up more money over the time period and bought a higher quality board. Instead of buying a $1600 board I'd have ended up with a $2500-$3000 board instead. Luckily I still have an OG Zealot that works fine but damn am I bummed. Waiting that long is just unacceptable these days. They should send the boards to the warehouse then say they're back in stock. When they aren't they should clearly label it's coming from China.

[@dailylife6935]

@@RelativelyAttractiveMan Thank you for helping me out. Yeah it said 3-7 business days when I ordered it. I expected it way before now. It’s kinda shitty. So I have to wait basically 2 months for my board? WTF. I’ll never do business with them again and I’m definitely going to tell everyone online about my experience. Thank you again!

[@boneheadnumber1409]

This video might be my favorite of yours because of the scenery! I've finally got a pivot gt coming sometime this month too!

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

Awesome Pivot GT is a fantastic board, Yea this location is awesome just quite busy on weekends with walkers and cyclists

[@iamedyson]

🌞 Summer heat is here, hopefully my ruckus is heat-resistant.

[@CraigTaylorYT]

Great honest review mate. Really enjoyed this one. 💯

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

Thank you sir

[@biddle444]

The ruckus is definitely lookin like a fun as hell board to ride. Great review I’m loving those trucks😎. (Great sticker on the side of ur helmet🤘NC)

[@davida7575]

I got to demo it at esk8con and me and everyone else that rode it was trying to buy the used demo board on the last day, and getting a firm no.

[@shanedalupan6822]

Great video, Scott 👍👌 Question: after having ridden the N3 and the Ruckus which one would you choose?

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

Hmmm honestly for me personally I’d have to pick the N3 purely based on Range.

[@eBoard3R]

*Continuin the killin streak with the banger thumbnail!* 🤟🏽⚡️🤙🏽⚡️🤟🏽 Progress bar gave me 80s/90s gamin vibes!! Amazin how much difference bushings make to ride feel, diallin it in can be a lotta fun... sometimes annoyin but so rewardin when you get it right to your preference. Great to see so many customisation options! Just enough flex, goldilocks 👌🏽 50S cells are EVerywhere right now! Very well put together board, great video! Sorry to hear about the covid, can be rough 😢

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

Thank you sir ! Haha i wondered if anyone would notice the progress bar 😂

[@ShadrikEaston]

That annoying rattle! I so feel this. I can never work out what it is. something sounds loose, like a clatter when I hit a small bump or a section of bumpy ground.. it is infuriating! hahaha! Glad its not just me :) this video is kinda selling this board. Im stuck between this, maybe the exway atlas..maybe.. and the acedeck nomad. Ive got a month or so to work it out.

[@mikemenard4543]

Glad it was his helmet visor!

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

Yea super annoying just glad it was me and not the board 🤣 The worst was the Backfire Zealot that thing sounds like a train from the 1800s

[@2932josh]

Get the atlas while I do like this propel ruckus, mind you I dont have either of the 2 I've only heard and seen good things from the atlas. If I was to get any all terrain setup it would be the atlas.

[@user-sn9od2cy4v]

i think there is a threshold where you would consider the product overengineered, this one definetly is

[@mikemenard4543]

Even as a member of the Propel team I can absolutely understand the sentiment and to be honest, some people have been saying our boards have been over-engineered since we launched more than half a decade ago now. 😂Our loyal owners, thankfully, feel differently. 😂 But you’re certainly not alone in feeling this way! We get it. Our chief engineer used to be a member of the engineering team at BMW. He’s been part of PEV teams that won a red dot award. He’s always thought differently and set ambitious goals for us. In the automotive world what’s considered “normal” now was once a strange and unique feature debuted by a single company first. We see ESK8 similarly. We were considered over-engineered by some when we first launched AWD and removable battery packs. We were considered over-engineered by some when we launched the Endeavor series 3.5 years ago with a monocoque frame with a removable deck on top of suspension angled in a way nobody had done on an ESK8 before. Now, others are selling a similar angled suspension approach with similar upper and lower control arm approaches. Multiple times, throughout our history, we have broken from convention and debuted ideas that our loyal owners have enjoyed, and then other brands have debuted similar ideas afterward. Somebody has to put the R&D spending into this business to stop it from remaining stagnant and stuck on copying ideas Boosted debuted long ago. We’re proud to be one of the brands committed to doing so. 😊 As far as engineering goes though it is important to note that Ruckus trucks can function like traditional channel trucks in many ways even if the damper was removed or somehow knocked clean off. This is also why we want people to get their bushings setup ideally first. So that the hydraulic damping is the bonus. Not the primary.

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

Yea it’s a theme I like to see brands attempting. In a world with everyone brand has: 50s cells, 6374 motors, 120a esc it’s the “how” that can help them stand out

[@davidheath2427]

So much innovation over the last few years . Makes me wonder what the future will bring . Ps Thought Nudgee at first , the dump rd . But then you lost me . Untill the end and you were back at the Nudgee shore line . I need to ride down there more .

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

Yea spot on, down by the dog beach,

[@SinCityEsk8]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

👏 👏

[@WorldwideDarts]

OMG!!! Look at that lineup in the garage! So many incredible boards!! #jealous edit... Hey honest question though... You're cruising along those beautiful paved paths. How often do you see a snake warming themselves right in the middle of the path?

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

Touch wood, Never ! Those paths are quite busy so never really a opportunity to settle for a sun bake 😂 🐍 🐍

[@davidheath2427]

Scott may not have but I have a few times . Luckily have seen from a distance . Don't want to run over then . If your wondering where the track from the big bike oval to Minnippie park . Twice near the driveway too the parking area .

[@Thec0nv1ct777]

Ruckus does seem like a gamechanger in the bushing area. Im in the same bind also. Im running aps tall chubby and Krank grey in the back. With a wine red and green barrel in the front. I want more mobility in the front but not so much it feels twitchy. So ill need to experiment more. I may try just green barrels in the front

[@mikemenard4543]

One of our key innovations within Channel truck design was our addition of a third bushing for increased turning precision. Some channel trucks have a sloppy large dead zone near their center point. In video game design the customization options for controllers has never been larger because advanced gamers want to be able to dial in their precision to their unique characteristics and preferences. ADT was made with a similar mindset.

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

Yea experimenting is key 🔑

[@Waz0]

Great video Scott! I’m still struggling which board to buy for next year tho. So I want to ask you, Propel Ev Ruckus or Acedeck Nomad N3 Elite? Price is not a factor. I would love your thoughts!

[@mikemenard4543]

If price is not a factor and you’re waiting until next year you may be interested in waiting for the Ruckus GT which will be priced considerably higher than our $1499 Ruckus here but add one of our largest battery builds ever. The battery and range will be absolutely huge. Something to keep in mind.

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

Hmmmm it’s a tough one Both are very nice boards, The Ruckus can carve a little tighter and with its 12s4p is a bit lighter But the Nomad Elite has a lot more range and a fair bit more power off the line.

[@iamedyson]

​@@mikemenard4543If your statement is true, I sure hope the deck's cooler system plays a large role too!

[@yohvh]

How does this compare to the propel pivot gt? I've got that one and I think the ruckus is about the same. But it seems complicated for a beginner to know what to do.

[@mikemenard4543]

Scott might be asleep due to time zone differences but I can help explain some of the main differences from a technical perspective and perhaps Scott will share his own personal thoughts and preferences. The Pivot has FOC 2.0. FOC 3.0 on Ruckus is much improved in basically every way that matters. It’s our smoothest FOC ESC ever and I say that as someone who pushed ownership to add a second ESC to the Pivot line in part because I personally felt we should have it. You can adjust each of the 4 speed modes’a top speeds, acceleration curves, and current. You can control the amount the board decelerates when you let off the throttle. You can customize the colors of each of the 4 speed modes. We have a hall sensor switch over when anything abnormal is detected to reduce potential for any kind of esc error lock up. The Pivot has traditional double kingpin trucks. Great for carving and mobility. The Ruckus has channel trucks with hydraulic damping. These can provide DKP-like carving and precision but have improved trail ride characteristics due to being channel trucks. The hydraulic damping acts as both a safety feature when dialed in correctly to give you a tool to regain stability when a wobble first begins (it can’t stop a sway feeling or wobble trigger from terrain or human movement from occurring in the first place but is there to help you recover once one does) and to give you some fast change characteristics for specific ride scenarios you want to try and then switch back quickly via the dials. The Ruckus also has our next level of BVR flex. Pivot was gen 1 and was mostly focused on vibration reduction but Ruckus flex is much more dramatic to the extent of minor shock absorption properties. It’s closer to being in the middle of Endeavor shock absorption and Pivot vibration reduction. Ruckus has our latest remote with color screen, 30% more battery life and improved plastics and throttle response. Note: You can also buy this remote and pair it to your Pivot. The Pivot is more mobile to pick up and carry and also has a sleek, traditional unibody look and more wheel versatility. Including PU wheels. In conclusion, the Ruckus does share similarities in some carving and maneuverability and battery cell and configuration with our Pivot GT but it has several notable technological and deck features to it and the two boards are pretty different when you compare their various strengths and price differences.

[@daflip1500]

​@@mikemenard4543will the pivots esc be upgraded to the standards of the ruckus? I heard that the pivots esc is the typical twitchy ling-yi esc like always. It would be nice to have the customizable setting on the pivot as well as the new remote that's on the ruckus.

[@mikemenard4543]

@@daflip1500 The first Pivot launched with the racing ESC of FOC 2.0 and yeah it was still twitchy for some. Others loved it and compared it favorably to a turbo in. A car that once mastered was super fun. I had both and personally prefer the comfort esc release. It’s smoother than the first one was. At present the next board scheduled to get FOC 3.0 is the eventual Endeavor 3 GT as the top of the Endeavor line.

[@daflip1500]

​@@mikemenard4543so the pivots esc is smoother ?

[@daflip1500]

So its smoother now?​@@mikemenard4543

[@arrow1414]

Off topic: Will you get back to reviewing Meepo's gear drive for the Voyager?

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

Man I had drama after drama with that The production board will/ is great My pre production just keeps giving me issues Not QC just things that changed from mine to production boards

[@arrow1414]

@@scottdaviesyoutube I saw the original video, so I know about your pre production board esc's cable attachments not being the same for the gear drive and mass production boards. I just thought Meepo would have at least loaned you a belt driven board that you could test the gear drive with by now (after removing the belt drive of course😉). The thing is all the good reviewers are gone. I got in during the peek in 2018 or so and almost everyone disappeared from regular testing by late 2022. Hardly anyone respectable are testing e-boards anymore.😔 Daniel Kwan pops his head up from time to time. I know Ronnie Sarmiento injured himself (not on an e-board) JohnPaulYT dropped off the face of the Earth over two years ago; your countryman Jay Boston is gone. Almost all the old familiar faces are gone. I guess other things in life caught up with them, or they burned out.You're one of the few left. ☹

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

@@arrow1414 yea Meepo did send me me a new esc but their cables were too long and it looked stupid and was not a true representation of the stock board, I will test their gear drive soon on the voyager X As for the old school reviewers, yea it’s sad they all dropped off / slowed down, the new batch are doing a good job (some of them) I just love making videos so much. Even when I try and slow down I get the itch to make content 😂 Thanks for watching and supporting all these years it’s been a long journey!!

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[@scottdaviesyoutube]

👏 👏 🎂 thanks as always James !