The Pros & Cons to the 1911

[@craigsteinkamp12]

The meteor that killed the dinosaurs, it was fired from a 1911.

[@luci_rado1175]

😆 😂 😆 😂 😆 😂 😆 😂 😆 yes it was lol.

[@Vincemaster2007]

It's true, I saw it

[@harrisoncrosley2131]

This is the funniest comment I’ve seen in a long time! 😂😂😂😂

[@Horrible_Deplorable]

This is a great comment

[@trynagetbanned8483]

Love it

[@rubbercheck72]

John Moses Browning designed the 1911 so perfectly, that he took into account the weight of completely descended testicles to balance it in such a way that recoil is negligible. The swinging of completely descended testicles while firing acts as a cantilever to the recoil.

[@floydmanfloydman4147]

Thanks for that, made my day

[@DeltaRancho]

Science don’t lie🤷🏼‍♂️

[@mister8084]

The best comment I've ever read 😂😂

[@danhellekson1393]

This is just the best…reply….EVER!!

[@JeepinOhio]

I normally just read through comments and leave it at that. This? This though? Dear God, it's true! Can't argue with it one bit!!! 😂 Thanks!

[@philmann3476]

After countless centuries, the best shape for wheels is still round. Old does not mean obsolete.

[@thatrandomchannel8589]

But the wheel was improved and we never looked back. We have steel rims and rubber tires. You know what you are right. When my car breaks down I can still use a wagon. Great point the 1911 like the wagon is still reliable when everything else fails.

[@jasonsong86]

The way I see the 1911 is like a manual sports car. It's not easy to drive but when you get it right, it's so rewarding.

[@The2ndFirst]

That's actually not a bad analogy. It takes more training for sure.

[@zen-Tii]

My car is a six speed manual. My gun is a Colt 1911 .38 Super.

[@The2ndFirst]

@@zen-Tii LMAO!

[@brianc9374]

Once you get it down, other pistols don't feel right

[@earthlyng_official4599]

I dont see what’s difficult about a 1911

[@Isaac_5.56x45]

If you agree that we have the right to own select fire weapons, and anything the military has, without any taxation, registration, or limitation, go ahead and hit that like button Patriot.

[@dragon3allzdeep325]

Every gun law is an infringement and taxation is theft. The aft goes against both of those beliefs.

[@Isaac_5.56x45]

@@dragon3allzdeep325 Amen to that.

[@eriggle83]

💯

[@royrodgersmcfreely2858]

No, but not because I dont agree, I simply refuse to comply with clout seeking behavior, had to dislike on principle

[@willheines4]

Every free person should have their rights. Abolish the BATFE. Repeal the NFA.

[@imonit1177]

the fact this conversation is still happening 111 years later is incredible

[@225degrees]

This conversation is only happening because of ignorant blind patriotism fed by the lie of just how amazing the 1911 was in "two world wars". The 1911 was a great design, it's well beyond it's prime and is far from being competitive with modern autos, particularly polymer framed guns. 1911's were primarily carried during the two wars, rarely used. They contributed very little in the grand scheme. They aren't drop dead reliable, they have a pathetic capacity, 45ACP offers zero terminal performance advantages while generating increased recoil. Manual safeties are stupid. Exposed hammers are stupid. All steel 2.5 lb guns are stupid. No ability to mount a light/laser (victim of it's time). Overly complicated with 52 parts, some require hand fitting. Government models are huge in size for what you get. All that being said. They are the granddaddy of all modern semi autos. They are beautiful pieces of work and a pleasant looking gun. They can shoot well, and they have the history to go with.

[@definitelynotaheretic.7295]

I’m pretty sure our air superiority and destroying Germany’s manufacturing and oil refining abilities won the war, not the 1911.

[@jdrseven]

The fact that. This conversation is still happening goes to show just how good this 111 year old pistol is. They've never made anything better since.

[@jdrseven]

Also, more shooting competitions are won with a 2011 than Glocks. More competitions are won by 2011's and 1911's than any other gun.

[@225degrees]

@@jdrseven A shooting competition! Well holy fuck, who gives a rats shit about a GAME. Killing people that deserve it is where the prize is. 1911's are poor service guns and have been since about 1935, when the Browning hipower came to life. It too is antiquated and greatly surpassed by current offerings.

[@kcrush1]

When I was a teenager in the early eighties, my local Burger King was a hangout among my friends. One night my friends and I witnessed a deranged man that pulled a Rambo knife inside of the restaurant and wouldn’t let anyone leave. A policeman arrived and pulled his 1911 and pointed it at the man with the knife. The man leaped towards the officer, and the officer instantly closed the distance between them and hit the man with knife with a right-handed, John Browning 1911, right hook! Besides knocking the man out, he broke the man’s facial orbital bone, caving in a part of his face. He was bleeding very badly and left a very bloody & deep laceration he would have the proof of for the rest of his life. I can’t speak to the tactical decision of hitting someone with a weapon before you empty 8+1 in them, but it’s nice to know that if you had to, the 1911 is a metal rock that will bash your face in with extreme prejudice. ✌️

[@troymoore8067]

My big old n frame 357 Isa bit like that. If you can't kill em with six shot you definately have the ability to bludgeon someone to death with it.

[@taraswertelecki3786]

The fact a 1911, is a big hunk of hard steel in your hand is why I like the 1911 platform. I enjoy shooting them very much.

[@dustinmatthews387]

Cop had it his way, right away!🤣

[@brandondavis4306]

@@taraswertelecki3786 same and the 1911 triggers are so damn smooth, or at least mine is like 2 or 3 pounds with no over travel.

[@haroldkrivell2524]

You bring up an excellent point. A full metal club is better than a plastic club. Melee is very important in combat.

[@cloverroberts2590]

I was an instructor for North Carolina CCH and senior instructor and trainer at an indoor range. I encouraged my new students to shoot many rental pistols before purchasing. New shooters found they were more accurate and faster with the 1911 especially the 9mm women leading the group. They usually ended up purchasing a smaller pistol in 9mm the SIG 938 was a hot seller. Very few purchased Glocks For CCH. Females purchase of 1911 in 45 acp pistols surprised me. I think the limiting factor was the price and size of 1911s. The SIG 226 was the second favorite. I don’t remember any functioning problems with our rental 1911s. I’m in my 70’s so I am old school and still carry a customized Colt 45acp 1911 ever day in appendix carry, I refuse to carry a pistol without a manual safety.

[@maximusjoseppi5904]

John, to be fair.. All of your recent shooting experience was with a stout manly beard and not this peach fuzz of a face dusting. The beard easily grants you +10 to cunning, +10 to accuracy, +10 to swiftness, and +50 to credibility. It's likely beard difference and not gun difference and I just don't know if I can trust what a beardless man says about the indomitable 45acp...

[@nospam3409]

I'm really wondering if this guy was John, or if they have John locked away somewhere and this is just that younger guy still trying to impersonate him...

[@zfjames]

This is true. I don't believe this fake John

[@alexmcgregor2854]

Only on a critical D20 role.

[@lastresort8010]

Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, how can we take you seriously with a peach-fuzzed baby face? See, with a “Manly” beard you could handle a “Manly” gun like the 1911. Your trying to shoot a 1911 like a Glock, not gonna work son, you w/1911 shooting low is like me w/glock shooting high. Different grip angle,(btw the 1911 is at 18deg like a m&p, not 11deg like you said). If your concern is with reliably, we’ll mine came with a bottle of oil for lubrication, I believe your Glock came with what, a bottle of super glue?lol Ammo capacity, hah, I run 8+1. Your G19, 15+1? .45acp ftw because having to shoot more then once is just silly.😜

[@meanman6992]

Well, it sucks at barrier penetration. And threats tend to not stand static in the open, so there’s that.

[@BorderCowboy66]

Old school Jarhead, served with the 1911 and it never failed me. I have been carrying an upgraded model for years, just what I'm comfortable with. As long as you know the weapon and how to use it, it is very reliable.

[@longshot398]

Got that right brother. The 1911 is a mans gun.

[@KathrynLiz1]

Spot on my man (thank you for your service by the way)... my 1911 would be my "go to" of my pistols for any really serious work.... I can run it under stress without thought... about 120,000 rounds through one will do that..... it becomes an extension of your hands and arms. The nice slim grip suits my quite petite hands much better than the "wonder nines" with their fat handles... the 1911 is a work of genius... it's more than accurate enough for its design function and with good ammo and goo mags (essential for any auto) it will never let you down.....Some complain about the recoil, but my 80 year old wrists still have no trouble with it.... 🙂

[@gzdPr]

@@KathrynLiz1 💯👍❤1911 4 ever!

[@eldieharris]

I’m a old school Jarhead the 1911 is awesome.

[@sha6mm]

Semper Fi

[@lesterroberts4787]

The rock that David used to sleigh Goliath was actually a .45 bullet from Gods reloading bench.

[@ProjectSerpo90]

David only knocked Goliath down with the sling. He then proceeded to lop off his head with Goliaths own sword. But lets be honest here….i think it was mistranslated and what really happened is he pulled out his Government 45acp and…..well….you know. But in all seriousness experiments were done and they stated the projectile fired from David’s sling could have delivered roughly the same amount of energy as a 45acp, crazy.

[@taylorharbin3948]

“Slay” is what you meant…but otherwise you’re probably right.

[@jorgeprieto5770]

Hahahhaha Chuck Norris’ luggies are .45acp

[@dominic6634]

​@@ProjectSerpo90 recommend looking up war slings those things can put a rock through plywood.

[@hobbyoftheday4017]

There is just something about a 1911 that just makes me feel good, I really like the single action trigger and the way it feels in the hand

[@brunoboaz7656]

My uncle, who served in World War 2, told me that if you wanted to avoid arguements with strangers or people you did know, never discuss sports, religion or 1911's with them.

[@sigberetta72]

Or politics

[@donovandaniel]

or The Great Pumpkin

[@shinobi-no-bueno]

​@@donovandaniel you trying to get a rock?

[@princesalazar7067]

@@shinobi-no-bueno penguins give each other rocks, wheres this going xD

[@somethinsomethin7243]

The 1911 is only a natural grip angle for those that use hammers, shovels, pry bars, ect. Also people who Box, and drive trucks/tractors with out power steering or do pull ups, bench press or anything with dumbbells. So John is right it is not a "natural grip angle" for many people these days...

[@worthy0ne777]

😂😂😂

[@marti-gras8841]

I've heard it said - you can't be a pussy all your life...lol

[@bobjones-bt9bh]

true. It points better than most anything out there...easy to get on target. I have 1 1911 that I acquired a couple years ago after years shooting H&K USPs and even 1989 Gen 2 G19. The 1911 is remarkably easy to shoot. I had no issues whatsoever with it. It's accurate enough to consider going all 1911 even in a mid tier model.

[@freedomgunsandliberty]

This!

[@billcharlene1450]

👏👏💪

[@markwhatley9955]

When you take it all in, the 1911 is probably the greatest handgun ever made.

[@theoutlawking9123]

Damn Right!!!

[@matthewschiebout7384]

not "probably", but IS!

[@TheBigE550]

Agreed !

[@davidspin5353]

Everone knows this...

[@theoutlawking9123]

@@davidspin5353 Some are still ignorant to it's Greatness!

[@calvinruggles732]

I always love the clash between the glock guys and the 1911 guys. Having owned both, I feel like it's arguing about whether rib eye is better than prime rib. They're both great, find which one you like and can work better, and rock on

[@sigberetta72]

Yeah everyone is always “ my 1911 can beat up your 1911” … Just shoot whatever works best for you I say. Who cares about capacity because, if you need more than 8 plus 1 , it’s probably gonna not end well anyway!

[@rorynelson7548]

Very true. Couldn't agree more. But prime rib is better

[@calvinruggles732]

@@rorynelson7548 lol, that is awesome

[@myongjaybaik64]

@@rorynelson7548 Prime rib = 1911, right? ;)

[@rorynelson7548]

@@myongjaybaik64 I suppose it would. But I'm a Glock guy over 1911 any time though I do like them

[@azrael3758]

I never got into 1911s until I became a machinist. now that I know how things are made it impresses me even more plus the history and the legacy.

[@davidchandler9136]

This guy here has the right mindset.

[@rite2beararms]

@@davidchandler9136 agreed. It's really something when you think about the technology standpoint at the time and how they came up with things like this. I look at it like a classic muscle car. Never going to be what a modern car can be, but who cares? Just look at it!

[@dannyleung9448]

I'm a Tool and Die maker and I think the 1911 is a work of art. especially seeing they had no auto cad and CNC back then. John Moses Browning is a genius

[@aPoorsPerspective]

@@davidchandler9136 as I got older I started to appreciate a .45 more. Got an officers model so I can finally conceal a .45

[@beastmode003]

how u became a machinist? sounds dope

[@evolutionglitch4739]

Jon, thank you for proving that it's okay to be wrong. We love ya buddy.

[@SchwererGustavThe800mm]

When I turned 21 I bought my Colt 1911. I'm 25 and have carried it daily for 4 years as my ccw. She rattles, shes heavy, shes plain jane but ive shot thousands of rounds and never failed me.

[@clintjanes3784]

Marriage material.

[@kavenkocke3653]

@@clintjanes3784 fr.

[@sajidakh]

1000s of rounds and never experiemced a malfunction??

[@40Pain]

Thats because you have never held a Glock

[@sajidakh]

@Ray Trammell theyre literally the same gun...

[@joeleonardo4902]

I'm 54 years old when I was a kid I used to read every gun magazine I could get my hands on and when I saw 1911's, I fell in love with the looks of it. Finally a couple of years ago I bought 1911 Springfield TRP in black, no rail. This thing is so darn smooth. I can get hits one handed,left handed, can hit everything. I love it.

[@marcuseverett1642]

I find it funny that people have to take the time to systematically break down why a 111 year old design isn't viable today. That really says something about the 1911 doesn't it? You don't see people trying to talk you out of using rotary phones or VCRs, but the 1911... different story.

[@redneckninja2539]

Well cause my rotary phone just works! I can send you a Beta tape of it in action

[@heavilyarmedhippie75]

I mean the same is true of AK and mini 14 platform rifles. I won't knock you for thinking these guns are cool, but in some cases you're dealing with WW1 and 2 technology and it's time we acknowledged that there are better options

[@ACGBLR]

Funny thing is, how many items are superior on the 1911. Hence why the 2011s are very populat.

[@michaelblack9674]

111 years old, still shooting strong, love my 1911

[@BaritoneMonkey]

Same

[@k.j.jr.1143]

John is entitled to his own opinion and his experience validates his advice and training. If you can go to one of his classes I highly recommend. However, talking about 1911s in general based on experience with a Kimber is kind of like reviewing Mexican cuisine based on a Doritos Locos Taco. Also, I think that the increase in popularity of 2011 style pistols shows the base designs of these guns is not archaic.

[@Jstandshere]

Your comment needs all the likes

[@redneckninja2539]

Greatest comparison ever placed in writing!

[@bobjones-bt9bh]

bingo.

[@eggr1ce374]

If you don’t go with a Kimber what would you recommend? I was looking at a Ruger sr1911 or maybe a Sig.

[@k.j.jr.1143]

@@eggr1ce374 Prepare for the longest reply on a KZbin comment ever. I will give you my two cents on this but first some of my credentials so you know where I am coming from. I am an intercollegiate competitive shooter specializing mostly in steel challenge. More often though I am focused on training tactical style pistol drills and scenarios. I'm still young and really at the infant stages of my shooting career which has partially consisted of one class at the Tactical Defense Institute in Ohio and two private training sessions with an instructor at my local Vortex facility. Most every instructor I know has told me the 1911 is not a viable modern defense weapon. Based on my personal research and knowledge I am still a believer. So, that it mind, take my opinion for what you think it is worth. If you are seeking a defensive pistol to stake life and liberty on get Ruger and Sig out of the question. I have never seen or heard of those brands of 1911 holding up to stressful circumstance, primarily because I have yet to meet or see a shooter who swears by them. They might be okay pistols, but I've yet to see anyone validate their utility. If we are talking defensive start looking at current designs from high end manufacturers like Wilson, Nighthawk, Ed Brown, or, if you want to go with what is in my opinion the premier 1911 shop for making high quality, combat pieces for defending life and liberty, Alchemy Custom Weapons. At the very least, for a defensive pistol, start looking for something from the Colt or Springfield Custom Shops or some of Dan Wesson's higher end models. If you are looking for a range toy or competition gun that doesn't brake the bank then I think you can get a better production Colt, Springfield, or lower-end Dan Wesson for the same money that you would pay for the Sig or Ruger. My first 1911 was a Colt Competition Model, blued and in .45 ACP. It was a reliable pistol until I sent it in to a custom shop and they fiddled with the internals. That pistol was around 900$ msrp if I remember correctly. Honest Outlaw did a review on the 9mm version and said that one was really good for the money. You can check that out here: www.colt.com/detail-page/competition-ser70-9mm-bl-91

[@s.d.9143]

Remember you're young, we learn as we grow. p.s. 1911's & revolvers due work well as hammers, if ammo is low.

[@wehrewulf]

Do, not due.

[@danestes1625]

Great video! I’m an inveterate 1911 guy, and have been for years. Own plenty of other “modern” guns….Sig, Glock, HK, etc., and shoot them all well. But at the end of the day, I’ll always come back to the 1911 and it comes down to practice and consistency. One instructor years ago said the 1911 is the most difficult pistol to master, but once you do, every other platform is a piece of cake. Modern guns have plenty of advantages, like capacity, weight, size, etc. However for me, the one advantage they don’t have is that I don’t shoot anything as well as my 1911.

[@donwelchmusic]

2011 has a double stack and is trice what any new pew is and it sits on a 1911 platform. Cost anywhere from 2-6k but cry once enjoy forever is what I always say. Definitely will make your pocketbook cry though lol.

[@gustavoalmanza2673]

@@donwelchmusic Rock Island makes double stack 1911s in a standard and tactical configuration. I got mine for a little over 800$ at a gun show and I’ve seen some for less in the stores

[@jasonhaas31]

I have no idea what's so hard to master about a 1911. First time I ever shot one my groupings were half the size of the ones from my M&P40. I've tired other "modern" pistols but can't shoot any of them near as accurate as 1911s.

[@KathrynLiz1]

That reflects my own experience exactly... I can shoot just about anything, but two pistols seem to melt into my hands and almost disappear they feel so natural..... they are the 1911 and the 1858 Remington... 🙂

[@asymsolutions]

@@gustavoalmanza2673 They're less for good reason. Oversized (thanks to the para configuration), over weight and generally poor quality.

[@glennschultz7685]

I have put many rounds through my Colt 1911 government model. It has never fouled up, failed to cycle, slide lock. super reliable gun.

[@sloppyoppie]

Yeah. My Dad sold his 1911 too.... and I have since been looking for it -for about 25 years now. If anybody has a WWII colt with "Lt Col Oppy" (spelled like that) on it I will pay top dollar for it back.

[@DesertJacks]

Will keep an eye out.

[@ronthompson5702]

John... I really enjoyed your perspective on the infamous 1911.... I'm 67 years of age and owned by first 1911 when I was 19 and it was the original military issued.. rattle your hand... Highly sought after by any gun enthusiast... I own probably at least eight of those things.... Never and I do mean never had a failure from one of those weapons.... I enjoyed your perspective because coming from your generation you were raised and learned to shoot something totally different and what you think and we're trained on what you said without saying... Sounds to me like you've had a Glock in your hand.... The very things you hate about the 1911 I love and the very things you love about the Glock I cannot understand and in my world the term block fits that weapon much better. Having said all that John it's what you're used to when I come out of the holster with that 1911 I click the safety off and never thinking about it it's automatic.... The trigger is by which all other triggers are judged by by 90% of the gun population. Still... I enjoyed your teardown of the 1911 as much as I enjoyed your remarks about the heritage and without that weapon during World War I World War II you did not mention Vietnam and I can tell you friend that gun was used widely in Vietnam! Having said all this you didn't piss me off in the least even though I am a 1911 man... I understand you were brought up on something else. I don't see many manufacturers out there copying the Glock... However I do see more copying the 1911 then I can list on a single sheet of paper.... That tells us there's a huge following... Thank you for your patriotism and your service sir... I love your videos and your attitude towards issues related to this nation this constitutional republic.... Keep putting out the good vids and I'm glad you're doing so well and have come so far ...you deserve it! Thank you sir! 🇺🇲🙏

[@paulfisher4660]

when you own and carry. you MUST know what you are carrying, a 1911 = manual safety, use it. taurus G2/G3 with a manual safety, use it. there isnt an excuse for carrying a gun and forgetting its not a glock and its a 1911 and then oh, no bang right. thats why the 1911 isnt a beginners gun, but neither is carrying a gun period. you know. its in your mindset. draw-safety-trigger-bang. if you carry a glock, you know, draw-trigger-bang. something about the 1911 in its modern look is just all business. have a girsan with a rail, SDS duty carry, GSG 22lr, old 1973 spanish star. built a 38 super. looking to buy parts and teach my kid about guns - good ol' 1911. could choose an AR that goes together like lego, but a 1911 is a 1911.

[@matthewblumenthal804]

I feel the same way about Glocks. However, the tool you can use is a good tool. I'm not bad with a 1911. I kind of suck with Glocks. Love your content, but I'll still use the tool that works for me.

[@bassr.1641]

Absolutely agree, except I have Glocks and rock with with 'em

[@chris.3711]

I honestly prefer my FNX-45.

[@soonerfrac4611]

Nobody is *required* to like mayonnaise. It’s ok, you have a right to be wrong! JMB>GG

[@markrutkowski267]

It takes me a little to adjust when going from my Glock to my Canik, since the grip angle is different. Dynamic training is where I suffer due to the grip angle difference. When you get used to one gun, then go to another, you need to train up to gain proficiency.

[@robups87]

Same I had a Glock for a bit could never be consistent with it been buying sigs and love them

[@ibbylancaster8981]

My dad just passed away and was a gunsmith for many years. My sister and I had to go through the gun collection and he had 13 1911 frame pistols in a couple of different calibers. I asked him BEFORE he passed “ dad do you like 1911’s?” His reply was “they’re the only pistol ever made in my mind “. He had others but he loved his 1911’s.

[@scottp4077]

How did you ask him that if he was dead?

[@dicktrickle8137]

@@scottp4077 lmao I was thinking the same damn thing!

[@ibbylancaster8981]

We did it before he died at his request 😉

[@dicktrickle8137]

@@ibbylancaster8981 LOL oh man you can’t edit your original comment! That’s cheating! 🤣

[@snteevveetns]

10:17, the slide safety is meant to have your thumb on it as soon as you are ready to shoot and just sit there… on top… keeping it off. You just need to take a 1911 class from a 1911 instructor

[@tomm1968]

Leave the big oversized slide stop in the parts bin. You don't need them. That's a good starting point. Keeping your thumb on top is good practice. Just don't drag the slide with your thumb, as that will also cause a short cycle.

[@thomaspounds9031]

1911 sucks

[@johnhermann7498]

@@thomaspounds9031 "...1911 sucks..." Artisans don't blame the tool... ;)

[@jeffmayle6776]

I was a 1911 guy…20yrs. Not saying I didn’t soot other types of hand guns. But got so used to the trigger pull of the 1911’s that everything else seemed awkward and weird somehow. It really seems to come down to what you train with and feels good to you. As far as reliability…probably never had any more trouble with it than anyone else with anything else. It just seems to me that it’s like that old “well, the Ford, Chevy or the Dodge is the better vehicle” thing. It’s just what you like and it is what it is. Thanks for the honest opinion and great video 👍

[@davidcbrainard]

I’ve had 1911s almost exclusively since 1980. Some ran flawlessly, others not so much. But the other designs I’ve tried just never felt right. If I had started with something else, I would probably feel more comfortable with it. My carry gun for the last ten years has been a Kimber Ultra Carry in 45acp. If I was a young operator, it would be something more modern. But for an old guy like me who doesn’t storm sandy beaches or crawl through the mud with it, it’s absolutely the best choice for me. Enjoyed the video.

[@tjzulu1]

@SmithGroup - Trading Algorithm Me three!!

[@topturretgunner]

Ditto brother! I’ve owned several 1911’s over the years. I still deeply regret letting a Series 70 Government Model Colt that had been tweaked by a gunsmith friend slip through my fingers several years ago. Man I miss that pistol.

[@757optim]

"It's not the arrow..." Then again, it was a Kimber. Don't forget the importance of training. Invite Rob Leatham out with an old 1911 in .38 Super. Good old days.

[@spanky376]

Buy a Dan Wesson 1911 acp and he will change his mind

[@Jezus42]

You misspelled 10mm, which I would have thought was hard to do

[@Jezus42]

@@spanky376 well there's your problem. Again you misspelled 10mm, oh and modify the gun so much it's a sig p220. Now we are talking!

[@Herbster41]

It was a Kimber?! How dare you, Sir?

[@itsmisterbojangles]

Try a custom Matt Mclearn 1911….

[@timknott750]

Haters gonna hate. I had problems with my 1911, but found it was extractor related, replaced it and after thousands of rounds haven't had any failures. Loved the video

[@soonerfrac4611]

Everyone forgets that Glocks jam too, that they’ve had small batch recalls that they hushed up, entirely recalled all the FBI guns, had guns notorious for blowing up, and numerous other problems that occurred before the social media revolution allowed people to post all the time.

[@brianfalls5038]

I always wondered what all the hype was about the 1911 and then I bought my very first one. I've been a 1911 fan ever since and that is my current edc piece. To me this pistol is old school cool. I know that there are more superior weapons out there but for me I really like my 1911

[@jamesmichaelwoods2930]

Carried a 1911 on and off for 40 plus years. I like it and it is as John said up to preferences. Guns are like women, some you like, some you hate and some you love and take home

[@johnbusby9281]

Guns are much safer than women! Iol

[@jamesmichaelwoods2930]

@@johnbusby9281 AMEN

[@jamesmichaelwoods2930]

@Don Baumann and you don't have to sneak a new gun into the house or ask if its ok to buy another one

[@MBriggs-vu2ko]

@@jamesmichaelwoods2930 🤔you must be single

[@MBriggs-vu2ko]

@Don Baumann never sir. I love my wife and she likes guns.

[@rotaman8555]

I didn’t start shooting the 1911 until about ten years ago, yet I took to it immediately and much prefer the platform over stricker-fired handguns. I love the ergonomics, the sights on my guns shoot to point of aim, I practice with the thumb safety and it’s second-nature to me now. The trigger is outstanding. And all in all I shoot the 1911 far better than any stricter-fired model that I have tried. To each their own. And also, TWO WORLD WARS! LOL!

[@xr29fb32]

I miss my 1911 a lot. I need to get another one.

[@I_Died_2_Weeks_Ago]

I carry one, and the other is on the nightstand. The only other thing I carry occasionally is a 38 revolver in my coat pocket during the winter. All of them are from Rock Island Armory - Commander Tac Ultra & the full size GI.

[@dsbiddle]

You’re wrong

[@tomm1968]

The gun you shoot best with is the gun you practice the most with. "Beware the man with only one gun. He probably knows how to use it."

[@stuntstrat76]

I tried to hit steel at 145 yds with my 1911 chambered in .45acp Aimed at the top of the steel. Rounds hit the ground at 75 yards. That was the final straw for me. 9mm striker fire for life. Thanks Jon!

[@Gignowanafonicon]

hating on the 1911, would be like hating on the m1 Garand. They are different animals, much like griping about how the 94 winchester is not as tactical and ergonomic as your daniel defense mk18. That all being said, I love the channel.

[@Mattlock52]

Awesome post, you summed up why 1911 hate irritates me. I love all quality firearms.

[@Austin_H_1900]

I’m surprised how much trouble you had adjusting to the 1911, John. You do practice a lot more than me, and that does add up when you don’t practice with 1911s. I’m 24 and I really enjoy a nice rather higher end 1911. I do carry a Walther PPQ instead because it’s one of the only guns I can shoot as well as a 1911 but has better weight, ammo capacity, and more enhancements options. If I could carry both I might. Thanks for the video John!

[@michaeledwards8051]

When enlisted, I had a 1911 that even with the slide forward rattled more than a civilian pistol slide back. However, the thing just ran and worked. Secondly, I had a Rock Island Armory 1911 standard model, GI type. Only for a handful of years. But thousands of rounds through it and when it range if anybody wanted to feed it I let anybody shoot it as much as they wanted. The only hiccups I had were in the first time shooting where realizing I needed to polish the feed ramp and lightly grease a few spots instead of oil. Otherwise, thousands rounds through it; it worked flawlessly.

[@1400IntruderVS]

I have one with about 2500 rounds of cheaper ammo through it. It has an od ceracoat ,G10 grips ,skeletonized trigger and hammer ,and an extended beaver tail and cost me just $600. Never had a failure of any kind. My only complaint is the black sites. My eyes frequently lose the front sight. I put grease in the slide on day one. The feed ramp already had a nice polish. I run mecgar mags because they were affordable and available when I was buying. There is just something about an all metal handgun that just feels right. Of course the trigger helps.

[@Riverboat374]

The 1911's I was issued in the Army all rattled like maracas - and ran flawlessly. I went through three purchased 1911's and not one of them was reliable. I even had a gunsmith do a couple hundred dollars of work on one and it always had problems. I sold them all. I wish I could find an Army surplus one somewhere.

[@theblackcock6607]

I have a Rock Island Armory government model it has honestly yet malfunction for me personally I had a friend that I took out when did he shoot it and its malfunction on him it was a stovepipe but I was watching him shoot it and it look like he limp-wristed it after I told him how to avoid limp wristing never jammed on him again

[@RealRonSwanson]

😂

[@swenner64]

I started with a 1911 in the Marines so I hate Glocks because they did not go with John Browning grip angles so I like S&W and Beretta. Hate the Glock grip angle! So I really disapoint my Glock head friend who think it is the only pistol you should own. I recently went striker fire and went S&W a good American Company!

[@heinzweber7642]

In germany, our icon is the 08(Luger). Beautifull masterpeace, delicate like a diva, but everyone loves it. My opinion: Mauser (Luger) and Browning, two genius living at the same time, created icons used till today (0.50 - Mg42 (Mg3). In case of the 1911, browning constructed the more practical pistol, I do own and shoot both, thats my thought about the 1911. Regards from germany

[@CanI...]

@heinz weber, I would love to pick your brain regarding German gun licenses.

[@LegoShaq]

Hell yea man

[@craigthescott5074]

The Lugers an awesome pistol I own 2 from WW2 but comparing John Browning and Luger isn’t even comparable. Luger invented one gun John Browning invented dozens of weapons many we still use today.

[@maxmaxim5635]

The 1911 is very practical; it helped win two world wars.

[@Brett235]

The luger is an awesome weapon. I would love to have an original.

[@timhahne3894]

Carried a 1911 as an Army MP in the 80"s it was an old gun built by Springfield. Had never shot one pre-enlistment. However I always qualified Expert. The dang thing would rattle if shaken. Even shot a bit of competition with the rattling bitch and did respectably. Was forced to carry with an empty chamber and no reload. Ridicules policy. Had to learn how to deal with those shortcomings. Have never used one since but there is still some nostalgia there.

[@704ab]

Same here, but I was in a slack desert detachment run by an E-7. The carry not chambered thing was not enforced. We would replace the ammo if we shot rattlesnakes though. Half the ammo in the safe was PMC. And we were in Texas, not Korea.

[@timhahne3894]

@@704ab Was in FRG at a Nuke Site then in the 101st. All field duty. Carried an M16 or M60 most of the time. 45 was extra.

[@raghnallmacaodh3220]

Yes, good times...

[@novumfidelium5575]

My unit had one in the early 80s that rattled, but went bang every time. Most of our guns had 7 or more digit serial numbers this one had 4! When armorers came to check our weapons, they looked up the serial number and discovered it had been issued before WW2. They took it with them. I'm quite sure it ended up in the Gunny's collection.

[@soonerfrac4611]

As a pre & post 9/11 MP carrying an M9 I can attest to the empty chamber requirement. Doesn’t mean we actually did…jussayin. Also, our arms room was SO OLD, how old was it? So old that the ammo blocks for issued ammo in 2001 were *still* the original 1911 blocks! Could see the magazine outline in the cutout for 2 1911 mags, and on each side were 7 holes for something much larger than a 9mm. Literally the mag holder portion was off shaped to fit 2 mags side by side of 1911 mags. Now, by the end of my career as both an MP and Army civilian cop we had fully moved to round in the chamber and carrying hollow points.

[@Ed-ig7fj]

I learned to shoot on a 1911 with an Ace .22 conversion in it. I loved it immediately; I have four 1911s now, 57 years later. I am 68 now, and even though I work out a lot my hand strength is going, and I have a hard time racking the slide of a 1911. I now often rely on my Walther P-38s or Berettas because they have a slide-mounted safety. This gives me an "ear" to hook my finger over, making the loading process easier. I have never put the gun on Safe doing this. Oh, all of my 45s are Colts and they always work, even my Officer's ACP. Good luck, all. --Old Guy

[@KrisK-i4f]

I feel your pain , I’m 73 , my first choice is a 1911, but some days , with all the arthritis in my hands , I ether don’t bother to carry at all , or settle for Tupperware . ( on the plus side Glock is far cheaper to replace than colt. Should things get sideways 😜)

[@tigerman3]

I've been shooting 1911's, DA/SA and revolvers over the past four years and only recently picked up a striker-fired pistol. What I found is that my experience shooting the other types actually have helped me become a more rounded shooter. Furthermore, I have also come to appreciate how fulfilling our shooting passion really is. Striker-fired, DA/SA, or single action, enjoy shooting for the sake of it while you still can. 2A all the way!

[@WasabiSniffer]

Ahh Musashi was right, “a man must not favor one particular weapon but must consider all things.” Also a great excuse to have lots of guns

[@1400IntruderVS]

The "modern" high ,two handed grip can be a bit of a handicap if that is all you train with. I find the 1911 points and shoots as well as you are trained to shoot with it. Like any other weapon. Perhaps by design ,I find the 1911 shoots better one handed than any of my modern polymer frame pistols. I can actually shoot it equally as well with one hand as I can with two ,and without dogging into the history of the design ,I am of the mindset that is an intentional part of it's purpose. Military sidearms are more often intended as a last resort or close range back up defensive tool and at close ranges you may need a hand free ,as well as a larger caliber that can stun an opponent (where ever it hits)? At least that is my interpretation. 1911 can be excellent but that does not mean there aren't choices that may work better for you. Always take good care of your firearms and train as often as you can afford to with the firearms you want to be the best with.

[@benstepanek2808]

I find that the 1911 and most other vendors work for me. Glocks do not. He's a Glock guys. it's a deficiency.

[@sajidakh]

If you can shoot as good with one hand vs 2. You're probably a pretty shitty shot

[@billyf22]

I'll have to try shooting one handed next time I try one out at the range

[@crashm1]

@@benstepanek2808 Yeah I think Lovell is broken, it's very sad to see but we need to be honest. It's possible rehab would help but he needs to want to recover.

[@militustoica]

@@crashm1 We should stage an intervention. Stryker fired pistol addiction is a training issue. An issue that needs to be addressed by the Society.

[@brads6304]

What John demonstated very well here was the reality of knowing how to operate the gun your holding. In a skilled persons hands, just about any gun is the best gun. I was impressed he figured out the sighting issue and compensated effectively. A gun that works reliably and accurately is a good gun. All brands, all bullets: if it works and you can work it consistantly, you have a good weapon.

[@SergiuM42]

Right here. If it’s 100% reliable and you can run the crap out of it with skill, it’s a good gun.

[@xtreme4stringbass]

Indian not the arrow.

[@montanadad2223]

I'm proud of you John I know you come from the plastic gun generation. I served with a 1911 for 2 decades and although I own the other guns too (SIG P365 for daily carry) I always go back to the 1911.

[@Brett235]

I'm only 45 and have only been into handguns for about 12 years. I'm a history junkie and I love the firearms that were used in war regardless of the time period. I like the 1911 because of it's simplicity and heft, and I love the 45 acp. I carry a Taurus g3c or a g19 but occasionally I strap on my heavy full size GI model 1911. By the end of my day I am always glad to put it back in the safe.

[@christopherbain3172]

Dear John Lovell, When shooting the 1911, ride that safety with your right hand like a cheap carnival pony and your woes go away. Rumor has it the arch angel Michael carries a WC 1911.

[@wehrewulf]

A flying fairy would...

[@ryand.3858]

I can appreciate your criticisms and I recognize that they come from being a guy who is most comfortable with a Glock. I started to write a long response but I’ll just let us agree to disagree. I don’t own a gun that I can shoot faster and more accurately than a 1911 and I have many different styles. Just some quick observations: -those grips are dogshit and definitely didn’t come from the factory. -Kimber isn’t very well regarded in the 1911 world. Some work but a lot of them have issues. -your grip looks a bit off, like you don’t know where to put your thumbs. Get up high on the gun and ride the safety with your strong hand thumb. Get a good thumbs forward grip and keep them a bit higher on the gun than you’re used to. I personally let my support thumb rest lightly against the slide (I don’t have forward serrations). Finally you can reduce recoil a bit more if you put some pressure downward on that safety with your strong thumb. The grip angle is natural so that you don’t need to shove your wrist down. Personally I feel like doing that just puts unnecessary tension in your trigger finger. It’s fine to not like the gun though, everyone has personal preferences. If you like Glocks then more power to you. 👍👍

[@johnhermann7498]

"...Kimber isn't well regarded in the 1911 world..." Truer words have never been spoken. Good looking guns? Sure. Reliable straight out of the box? eh... Not so much. It's a roll of the dice.

[@Beacon7x]

As soon as I heard him say “kimber” I wanted to quit watching the video.. almost wanted to quit watching again when he went over his “grip” and mentioned the trigger doesn’t matter 🤨 But you commented a lot of what I was thinking. I shoot single stack division in uspsa and can’t count on my hands and feet how many times military show up with their glocks at a local match and never see them again. One example specific had a local active duty sof guy show up with a Roland special glock, extended mags, and a red dot; he saw I had a 1911 holstered and grinned and said “don’t feel bad when I beat you, I’ve got a glock with 21 rounds of 9mm and a comp” it was just a falling steel match so it was strictly just nocking steel targets down as fast as possible (I figured he’d beat me too lol).. when he saw the results on the iPad at the end of the match and saw that I beat him, pretty bad, he at least had the integrity to approach me and say “man, I was wrong.. you smoked me, you’re really good” but he never came back after that, some of his buddies said he practiced a few weeks and was going to come back but they couldn’t ever talk him into it. Similar stories with the others, just no one calling me out like that one. I understand shooting uspsa and cqc/room clearing are two different things, I would never clear my house the way I do a stage, but it does improve weapons handling and proficiency which a lot of people lack especially when trying to move fast with a gun in hand safely and effectively (I also wouldn’t be clearing my house with a pistol either.. 11.5 ar)

[@papadonnis3545]

@@Beacon7x I feel that's testament to you being a better and more kickass shooter than he was more than it being a 1911. (Excluding caliber because we obviously have .45 acp in other guns). I've done a few USPSA matches and never won but I love going out there and just having fun and seeing progress every time I go. I see a lot of CZ guys where I'm at more than 1911's. That and the P226.

[@johnhermann7498]

@@Beacon7x - One of my old RSOs said it best "...Anyone can shoot a Glock..."

[@timjr260]

I have heard people say kimbers aren't reliable, but lapd swat uses the tle 2 like what is in this video, and I had excellent experience with mine, and my dads. I also used to work at a gun store and every kimber we got in felt way nicer than the Springfield or Remington, and the 90+ customers I sold kimbers too said thy were impressed with them. All this being said why does many people dog on Kimber 1911s? They have multiple models for various applications and so many people trust them, did you have bad experience with em or something?

[@keithsmith5998]

As far as grip handle, the 1911 was designed be shot one handed. Arm extended out completely.

[@RalphReagan]

My dad hated the Weaver stance.

[@DeathPredator]

@@RalphReagan What was his preference? Applegate, perhaps?

[@tnleeo]

I loved how you gave your honest opinions! Good info!

[@benb3910]

AFAIK, the “modern high grip” was developed by IPSC comp shooters Brian Enos & Rob Leatham using 2011s and 1911s. It spread thru the pistol games and then into tactical land.

[@Excalibur01]

A lot of modern tactical shit came from competition.

[@soonerfrac4611]

Rob REALLY needs to come have a discussion with John!

[@peoplehavetherights]

What about those "old dinosaurs," Mickey Fowler, Ron Lerch, Mike Dalton, and many others, who shot their Jim Hoag built 1911s without failures? These guys and their pistol pre-dated all the polymer framed striker fired pieces by almost 20 years. We all saw this reliability in action.

[@greyscout01]

Old school old guy. I could never get comfortable with the modern grip. Old school, I can pick up any weapon and hit with it. No 'transitioning' between new guns, old guns, or revolvers.

[@Excalibur01]

@@greyscout01 One mind, any weapon

[@nick62040]

I've owned 20 to 25 1911's since my first one in 1975 and they have all been great guns, Colt's, Springfield Armory's and now I have a S&W 1911SC and love it, they all were very reliable and I would have bet my life on any of them. GREATEST handgun ever made!

[@josephroberts7597]

I feel the same way about Glocks that John feels about 1911's...

[@williamtoney2599]

Yep…..Glocks suck…..

[@jonathonbridges9625]

Yep, he's shooting a kimber so it's a very horrible example of a 1911 on top of being a Stryker fired guy.

[@dsbiddle]

You’re wrong

[@josephroberts7597]

@@dsbiddle About how I feel concerning Glocks? Only a leftist or a woman would think they have any say on how I feel....

[@harisyoung4110]

he should've get a dan wesson for this demo.. i never got any issue with this.

[@kevinthorrington2131]

My dads best friend was a armor in the army during WWII. His job was to record the amount of ammo used in each pistol, and maintain all the 1911 pistols used for training. He told me some of the 1911 pistols had over a million rounds through them. I wonder if the plastic queens will make it through a 100.000 rounds???

[@rorynelson7548]

Look it up, glock surpassed that many many years ago

[@FXIIBeaver]

@@rorynelson7548 through one gun or in total of all guns?

[@Mommyhelsie]

At least the plastic queens don’t have to reload every 8 shots😂

[@malandar5218]

@@Mommyhelsie Ya don't need more if you hit what you are aiming at.

[@Mommyhelsie]

@@malandar5218 most people use it for target practice 🤣so enjoy reloading every 8 shots

[@owenhealy5168]

I laughed through the whole Video. I shoot both gock and 1911. Everything you said are what glock shooters say. In my years of shooting both, I have had the same amount of malfuctions. But thats just me. 1911 is not for everyone, I enjoyed the hearing all the glock shooter complaints.

[@xr29fb32]

I used to have a 1911 and now have a Glock. I want to go back to the 1911. Mine ran perfectly and I was one with it. Perfect for my grip, etc. Plus safer to carry around “recklessly” at times.

[@ulisessalas6420]

Oh my God … I laughed through the entire video too. That was freaking hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂 Even though I’m a 1911 dude, I couldn’t get mad at him for bashing on the 1911s. Freaking hilarious

[@donaldstone540]

As soon As I saw those wrap around grips, I knew there was gonna be an issue. I love the 1911, I hate wrap around grips like that. I run Chip McCormick slim-line wood grips and I love them. Most of the problems John had with this gun sounded a lot like when you take the training wheels of your kids bike and they have to relearn how to ride on the big-boy bike...😎😎😎 Just my opinion. The high grip John runs works bette on the 1911 if you ride your thumb on top of the safety. From the draw, your thumb is already on the safety, which makes it much faster to disengage.

[@joshawalister4657]

I agree. I run my 1911 thumb on safety and his grip style. No problems what so ever

[@soonerfrac4611]

Definitely his grip was incorrect. It’s literally the “gas pedal” everyone is talking about for other guns but it’s designed with it.

[@sauerkrautjr]

Yep. I tried out a Hogue wrap-around grip for my p365. Hate it. Turns out I like a solid gun more than a squishy one. Waste of $12.

[@militustoica]

Rubber Hogue grip plates for life. It seems to be than the “Cons” John gave for that 1911 were related to ridiculously changeable components in a heavily saturated parts aftermarket. The other were because he doesn’t train with single stack, non-hinged triggers, and described using garbage magazines. I’ve reloaded well over 500 Wilson Combat ETM magazines like the kinds used in USMC M45s and never once had any issues with battery or locking back.

[@militustoica]

@@sauerkrautjr Try the rubberized plates. They screw on like normal grip plates but have just the barest amount of give and - for me, at least, help with felt recoil a bit (at least in my head). It is very comfortable, though.

[@firesharksar2250]

Love the 1911, best handgun ever designed. And if that one didn't have those silly grips you would probably like it a lot more.

[@raywells2858]

True that! Those looked like they really sucked big time! I would have chunked them in the trash before I finished ringing it up at the gun store!

[@adjacentchannel]

Seeing John shooting a full size 1911 reminds me of his limited stature.

[@marsoelflaco5722]

He's a twerp.

[@Nlang1969]

Lol

[@jamesday7344]

Whether it be hair, physique, bank account, better this or that. It is a bad rut to get into. Putting down others to elevate ourselves. I do it, try not to

[@marsoelflaco5722]

@@jamesday7344 ✌🏽

[@adjacentchannel]

@@jamesday7344 Wasn't intended as a hurtful comment, & I"m sure he didn't take it that way. More of a tongue in cheek comment. I forgot this was "You"tube and didn't put my pussy gloves on to keep from offending others whilst I typed that comment. Oh, looks like I typed this while wearing my Jackass gloves...my bad. Lighten up would ya.

[@JohnnyReb2000]

As for the recoil guide rod, the partial length (GI) is the original design. I prefer the GI guide rod on full-size 1911's because the gun balances better and it's easier to disassemble. The slide not locking to the rear was more than likely a magazine issue. In terms of reliability, a big detriment to overall reliability is the dozens of brands that make them now. The quality most definitely varies greatly. At the end if the day though, it really is mostly a preference thing, and there's nothing wrong with that. I do prefer the single action trigger over striker-fire triggers and the grip angle of the 1911. Personally, I've found that the weight of the 1911 in full-sized versions (the configuration it was originally designed in anyway) helps reduce muzzle flip. But again, to each his own. As you always say, train hard, train smart.

[@_XR40_]

Ammunition is also a factor. The 1911 wasn't designed to feed anything other than basic bullets...

[@JohnnyReb2000]

@@_XR40_, you have a point. Hollowpoints with more a rounded nose like FMJ bullets are usually shaped generally cycle better than hollowpoints that are more triangle-shaped.

[@AirCav24]

I noticed in the video that when the slide didn’t lock back he was using a Wilson Combat magazine. These are great magazines however, when you couple them with a gun that uses a MIM slide lock you will eventually have issues. I have several of these mags and when using with my Springfield they have the same issue but when I use them with my Nighthawk or STI guns they work without issue. 1911s were built in a time where manufacturing was expensive and labor was cheap. Some would say they were not designed to have full length guide rods, or to shoot hollow point bullets or rails or this or that. The truth is they were not designed to have MIM parts and that will cause many more issues than most other factors.

[@JohnnyReb2000]

@@AirCav24, that does go back to my point about how there's so many companies that make 1911's now, and they're not all created equal. I would love to get my hands on a Nighthawk or another higher end 1911. I will say though, that I love my Kimber, and haven't had any malfunctions that weren't ammo related or due to shooter error (2 malfunctions were from factory reloaded ammo from a local business, and one was my brother being a jackass and shooting it gangster style (which he probably didn't have a good grip on the pistol).

[@michaeldunn7258]

Yes, 1911s are heavy and have capacity challenges. Any issues I've had was either from limp wristing or magazine related. Concentration fixed the former; aftermarket quality magazines fixed the latter. Now I'm a 2011 guy and life is good....

[@timothygoodrich3966]

I had no idea that Id end up a “1911 Guy” when I went pistol shopping the first time. I ended up with two Rock Island Armories in 9 & .45, end then a GSG .22 to introduce my son to the sport. All have run flawlessly. I appreciate the mechanical safeties in a sue happy world, the feel of solid steel and a design that keeps ticking after 110 years.

[@troymoore8067]

GSG 1911 22 is a great gun. My one eats any ammo as long as it isn't subs. Runs dirty as hell , always works.

[@briant7652]

My RIA 1911 GI is my cheapest handgun and also my favorite!

[@militustoica]

John's issue with the slide locking back was purely a magazine issue. He should've used Wilson Combat mags like the Marines' M45. I've never once had them fail to perform in hundreds of rounds fired.

[@silverhorder1969]

Kimber 1911’s seem to have more functionality issues than say Colt, Sig, or others.

[@davidhowell3609]

my Kimber functions perfectly even after 4500rds

[@aidengonzalez615]

I love 1911s, and they're probably my favorite handguns. That being said, I think the hallmark of a proficient shooter is being able to pick up any weapon and be "combat effective" with it. Good shooting fundamentals can be applied to any firearm. It just so happens that I can squeeze out slightly better results using a 1911 than other pistols. Just make sure your gun can run with hollowpoints.

[@tomm1968]

Hollow points? I do my own porting and polishing, and my 1911s aren't ready unless they'll reliably feed empty cases from the magazine.

[@BaritoneMonkey]

To be fair to John here, he uses a specific type of grip that just doesn't work with the 1911's safety.

[@monroefive-o40]

@@BaritoneMonkey Yep..He’s used to running the Glock. That extreme grip angle on the Glock messes with me too. I carried the Glock M22 on duty for several years. When I went to our SRT unit we carried the SA 1911 and boy did that mess me up. I’m now a full on 1911 kinda guy. Not that the Glock is a bad system, It’s just a different animal and ya have to retrain your brain.

[@SciFiPaintball]

My Colt Commander is my favorite gun! I did grow up with it. And I am more accurate with it than any other handgun I currently own, but mine is 38 Super, so a bit more manageable recoil than the standard 45. I kinda like being the old-fashioned 1911 guy.

[@BlazingGunner]

3 Problems with this video #1 the 1911 was a Kimber and not a Colt and Kimber's suck #2 it was in the lord's caliber 45 AARP and not in the Best millimeter 10mm which is like a lighting bolt from Heaven #3 you dissed Mayo and that is unforgettable and a mortal sin, I'll pray for your soul. Great video keep up the good work and have a blessed day.

[@coldcanuck6091]

The amusing part of this video is that John's movements weren't slowed by video trickery, he actually moves that slow when shooting a 1911 😉

[@driedjello]

I have a Range Officer Compact as my conceal carry and I am pretty darned good with it. I can get out of concealment to being on target in .78 seconds average time. The only reason for this is I have over 40K rounds of practice with it. The trigger is glorious, it points really well and is tame. The negatives are the 8 round mags and the weight of the gun. For those reasons, I just got a Hellcat and after 500 rounds, I SUCK OUT LOUD with my Hellcat. I will reevaluate after I get at least 10K rounds through my Hellcat. I think the moral of the story is the training is more important than the equipment, even though the choice of equipment matters.

[@oldmike7239]

Same here. I have a full size Springfield 1911 that I was using as an EDC, but it is heavy. I switched to a Hellcat. Worst decision ever. It kicked like a mule, and I couldn’t even hit a target at 10 yards. Got rid of it and now looking for a smaller 1911 to carry.

[@wehrewulf]

concealed carry

[@Luckyhikes]

Should have gotten a sig p365xl. Most shootable cc gun ive ever shot

[@lonloren2317]

@@oldmike7239 I have one of the first Lite Weight Commanders made in .38 Super. It is one of the first one hundred made. Colt makes it in 9MM . It comes out of the holster and on target very fast. I love that old gun and I won't give it up. Other gun makers make a commander size aluminum frame 1911. Just pick your favorite Caliber.

[@blazebox71]

I'm not a big fan of kimbers myself, the colt and Springfield 1911s seem to be pretty reliable. The kimbers I've always have been told have reliability issues. Also 1911s have the best triggers of any handgun and are usually quite accurate

[@KathrynLiz1]

You are right about Kimbers... I've had a few come through my hands from clients for reliability issues.... takes a wee bit of work to sort them out.

[@jasonrichardson4522]

Kimber tries to build a 1911 like a Swiss watch, the ones that run without fail are built like a small block chevy with a few miles on them

[@steveheard2138]

LAPD SWAT ordered a shipmemt of Kimbers for their guys. As soon as they got them they begain failing. LAPD sent them all back. This is straight from the mouth of one of their senior leaders. Kimber has been known to be unreliable and over priced . Your Colts and RockRivers are known to be much better.

[@wehrewulf]

Colts are often turds as well.... And Springfield Armory...

[@Xennial-en6kb]

I’ve had great experiences with Kimber 1911’s but only a batch size of two. Both ran flawlessly and accurate, a Gold Combat II and a Dessert Warrior TFS

[@alexmitchell7083]

“You want comfort, you buy a cardigan sweater” 😂 sending this to my father who believes all that matters is how the weapon feels in the hand. Thank you!

[@Destructor429]

I had a Para ordinance 1911 go through a house fire. I found it and cleaned it up, New springs and new handle grips and she works again! Your plastic gun can never do that!! Also I have a cheap a$$ Norinco NP29 in 9mm. All steel construction. But it runs like a sewing machine. I also had some real hot reloads that actually blew the casings up and the all steel 1911 spit them out and kept on going. A Glock with their unsupported chambers would never survive one of those. Glocks have their place but I would never own one. But I also would never drive a Prius! You know what I just did there!

[@blackops8996]

Glocks are still better

[@randymicallef3545]

I had a good chuckle over having to sell a Colt Commander to pay the bills. I also had a Colt Commander and in turn sold it when money got tight over 20 years ago. I've never purchased another 45cal. since. Not hating on 45acp but I have to say I remember trying to decide on whether or not to purchase the 45 or 9 FN tactical (replacing that 1911 never factored into it) and I went with the 9 and I've never regretted that decision. (you may now hate on my FN Tac 9 below)

[@bobjones-bt9bh]

9mm is except in rare loadings insufficient to create secondary wounding characteristics. I prefer .40 but it presents significantly more recoil as a function of the added energy. Most .45 is also underpowered.

[@rtaveno]

Pretty positive you made the right choice.

[@martyc1533]

@@rtaveno Yes, I agree, especially if you have "recoil" problems with the .40 or .45!

[@prepper2711]

I'm very proud to say that I love all guns of all kinds. Except high points.

[@heaththompson3834]

HAHAHAHA

[@SnowFootprints96]

I love 1911's. The grip and trigger are my favorite. But I understand all the things that are wrong with it now. I can shoot them pretty well, and they have a place in my heart.

[@TheGosslings]

Also, major kudos for the James Yeager shoutout. Miss that guy's voice in the gun world. He was unapologetic and we need more of that.

[@deank5649]

Been carrying 1911s on duty for ten years and i still do. Currently its a Nighthawk GRP Recon with their IOS red dot cut until my other Firehawk shows up. I have a Nighthawk Talon built in 2007 with 80K on its frame and on its 2nd barrel. I keep good track of my spring changes (every 2000-2500 round for recoil springs, 5000 for all springs) I CLP wipe and re-lube after every "long" range session 250-500 rounds. Complete breakdown and clean at 5000 as well. Also having good mags is big on the reliability of the gun. Just want to include the fact I'm shooting a minimum of 20K rounds through a 1911 annually. By doing what I do I've never had a gun go down in training, competitions or in a working environment. Lastly if you want to play in the 1911 space BUY A QUALITY GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@oneballwizard406]

Do you carry extended mags or just the usual 7? I'm not involved in LE or military but personally I would rather have twice the ammo with my g19. I've fired over 5k through it stock and have not had a single issue with just basic maintenance

[@deank5649]

@@oneballwizard406 8+1 in the gun, 4 8 rounders on my belt, 2 10 rounders on my vest. I've had the misfortune of being involved in multiple OIS in my career with a 1911 never felt undergunned at all but it's also the only gun I've shot my entire career (other than the 226 when I was in FTO)

[@soonerfrac4611]

My only complaint about the 1911 is the lower capacity. Even that is really not an issue. The vast majority of shooting situations require less than 3rds. The grip issue isn’t an issue because it’s a fault of the shooter. Many Glock shooters still slide lock with a “modern grip. The safety isn’t an issue because the natural grip on any frame mounted safety gun should automatically deactivate the manual safety.

[@CharlesRTinsley]

John, it seems to me it is a lack of time with a 1911. I have the same opinion of a Glock. The age old question Ford or Chevy. My M1911A1 has never failed me on the range or under duress. But then, I have been using one for my EDC, since 1975. 10,000 rounds +, it is not a Kimber or any other race gun but an EDC. reliable sidearm. God Bless and keep you and yours.

[@mechag7379]

I see more Kimber 1911's in the used rack at a local gun store than any other 1911. I don't know how high I would rate their guns. My Dan Wesson ECP has never give me a malfunction. Since there are so many people making 1911 pistols, it is not a good comparison to compare one polymer gun manufacturer to all of them. How would polymer guns stack up if you had to include Taurus or Remington polymer gun reliability in the numbers in addition to just Glock?

[@murfrirhke4557]

Good topic as always & that’s coming from a 1911 shooter & carrier. I’ve owned many over the years & currently use three. I got rid of all the crappy & overrated examples such as two Kimbers & one EB which were all problematic. While I will agree that they are archeological relics, I shoot them very well & have ZERO issues with mine. The DW 1st gen Valor is absolutely my favorite & although looking a bit rough, has been flawless. If I were to go to war again, I would utilize my “modern” pistols to backup my carbine fun machine. BTW, I’m retired USAF (no snickering) & carried the M-15 concealed for many years until forced to retire it in favor of a phat ass M-9. So, no military experience with the 1911 & I still love the S&W model 15 & occasionally carry an old “J” frame to this day. Lastly & no disrespect to you, but I don’t give a dick puddle what JY thinks.

[@nicholaswatts3442]

Love the breaking of the 4th wall. The breathing, the laughter, feedback. Makes the video much more casual.

[@izzyplusplusplus1004]

Typewriters don't die when exposed to an emp. Most are made from metal, which wont deform if you leave it in your dash.

[@zfjames]

Glocks don't deform either; that's a myth

[@zfjames]

@Nathaniel Shrock Exposing it to a literal forge is different lol, goodness man what did you do? :D

[@tom-mx4ww]

Been running 1911 for years , taken to many many classes NEVER had a malfunction, all mine are Springfield armory great guns!!!!

[@rickklein7792]

I carried a Colt Commander while in the military 45 years ago. Loved it and it loved me. Recently because of the crazy world we live in I purchased a handgun. Looked at a Commander but felt I needed more rounds. Bought a Beretta M9. After going to the range my eye is still what it used to be. So in my opinion maybe it isn't so much the weapon as it is the shooter.

[@ronsmith9251]

I love the M9.

[@rickklein7792]

@Ray Trammell I live in Chicago. Maybe I shouldn't be there. BTW, it's a target rich environment. And they have body armor.

[@stephenurban9880]

I own a Kimber (Pro CDP) which was a $1300 pistol when I bought it. Despite the cost it is defective and after two trips back to the factory (and Kimber acknowledging the issue) Kimber never fixed the issue. After being VERY rude to me they finally declared that a pistol with out of spec frame (rails are not parallel) met their QC and told me to screw myself.

[@danielkealey5739]

Sorry to hear that you didn’t have much fun with the 1911. Out of all the pistols I own my 1911’s are my favorite and the ones I shoot best because of the incredibly smooth trigger pull.

[@MrErictank]

"Muh Two World Wars!!!" All kidding aside, I find the 1911 works really well for me personally. The grip angle is more conducive to good shooting for me, the sights line up almost automatically and I shoot well with it. Took my current 1911 (a Kimber TLE II, as it happens) to a couple of pistol classes, and had no issues. I keep hearing about these issues that so many people have with 1911s, but the three different ones I've owned over the years have never given me those problems.

[@xr29fb32]

I never had any problems with mine either. I need to get another one.

[@stuntstrat76]

Ever tried a Sig P320x? Grip angle is super natural. Very similar to the 1911. Many striker fired pistols have more natural angle than Glocks. Give one a try if you haven’t.

[@MrErictank]

@@stuntstrat76 - it's on my to-build list.

[@theodorehunter4765]

Only issues I have had with my Kimber TLE RL II was with a cheap aftermarket mag. Granted, I bought it used so who knows if the previous owner had it worked over by a smith.

[@careylymanjones]

I had problems with my 1911s until I discovered Mec-gar mags. Half the price of Wilson Combat, and they worked better.

[@larrywheeler9797]

1911s got my vote! Commander size is my favorite in 45 ACP. Thanks for sharing!

[@HobbitHomes263]

In the world of IPSC, the 1911 has one ton of a lot of wins. Highly modified to be sure but that is the beauty of the platform. I prefer a double stack 1911 because it fits my hand better. When I head to the grizzly woods where I live I can stick the 460 Rowland parts in and be near 44 mag performance. For me though, I got my 1st 1911 in the military in 1972 and probably have 50,000 rounds down range since. SOunds like Kimber gave you a crap gun.

[@FXIIBeaver]

Kimber isn’t as good as they used to be.

[@chipsterb4946]

@@FXIIBeaver my first 1911 bought in November 2008 was a Kimber jam-o-matic. “Customer Service” told me I had to shoot 500 rounds first and was probably limp wristing it anyway. At least one 3-point jam per magazine so 500 rounds wasn’t happening. Got so mad I studied up on the platform, diagnosed the floppy firing pin stop and clocking extractor, and replaced those parts. Every time I see a used Kimber at a gun store I smile a little … suckers! (I sold mine to a friend with full disclosure. Apparently it runs like a top after I fixed it.)

[@FXIIBeaver]

@@chipsterb4946 yeah about 10 years ago they were good but now a days I would take my old rock island over a kimber(I am in no way saying RI is the best out there. For those of you who want to jump to conclusions) my rock island ran like a top. Might pick up another.

[@chipsterb4946]

@@FXIIBeaver Kimbers were crap 14 years ago in my experience. I didn’t even mention all of the MIM parts. Look in any used gun counter and tell me what brand you see the most …

[@FXIIBeaver]

@@chipsterb4946 fair enough. I was just getting into guns in 2012 so I will defer to the older gen gun people.

[@Buletspunge555]

Loving the difference of opinion here 😀 My individual experience is that straight wrists are strong and broken forward wrists are weak. I'm a believer and a convert from passive style of grip. You were running 1 second splits because you weren't managing the heavier recoil with your passive wrist forward technique. You can see your hands slip a bit on multiple shots. You need to go straight wrist with grip active like the battle gnome ;) Love the videos sir! Carry on!

[@KathrynLiz1]

Spot on...

[@mwagers1911]

John, why does the 1911 look so large when you hold it? You know, compared to everyone else?

[@Littleluis357]

I’ve carried a Kimber .45 for years. I always questioned it’s capability subconsciously but in 2019 I was completely reassured when I was walking through the woods, and out of nowhere 2 rabid grizzly hippopotamuses posted up on me. I could see the colors they were reppin’ and I knew I was in crippopotamus territory. I took out my kimber-hand-cannon and began to rain all 7, .45 caliber Winchester White Box artillery rounds at them… After the smoke cleared I realized I was the only one who could live to tell the story. And I’ve never carried any other handgun.

[@michaelschaffer9165]

John you know and I know that 1911's have been the basis of lots of race guns. I'm sure if you would practice with a specific 1911 that your performance with it would improve dramatically.

[@marcwink4122]

Many valid points here. As to reliability, I’d venture a guess that most of the 1911s that choke in your classes are production level guns. As someone who carries a 1911 daily, and who has spent a small fortune on both production guns and custom guns, I can say that I haven’t had consistent luck with the production guns. Custom guns are a little different story though…but you definitely pay for the reliability tuning on the build.

[@nospam3409]

My experience has been that it depends on which production or stock gun you get. I had great luck out of Milspec springfields, and never had an issue with a Colt. The biggest issues I've seen have been in the magazines. Feed an iffy 1911 with a good mag and it runs fine. Feed a good 1911 with a $3 mag from the gun show, and it's going to have problems.

[@RepentorPerish77]

My Dan Wesson TCP would beg to differ…it’s been flawless for me

[@militustoica]

In all seriousness, all of the “Cons” listed could be attributed to easily interchangeable aftermarket parts, training, and quality magazines. Never seen a 1911 mag that didn’t lock back, but I only use M45 standard Wilson Combat ETM mags.

[@FirebaseElmira]

If you want to raise raise the muzzle a bit when you grip a 1911, Johnny, use the arched mainspring housing that John by God Browning drew when he designed it. Even a Marine like Clint Whatizname can hit with a 1911.

[@TylerC5-1]

First the beard, now this sacrilege. HOW MUCH MORE ABUSE WILL YOU COMMIT AGAINST US!!

[@Iron_Road]

John: Everything was 3x slower than it would have been, getting mikes that otherwise be Alphas. John MosesBrowning: Is this cope?

[@HomerEscobar1]

"I can't use the tool, so the tool must be crap"

[@ixlzz]

I carried a TLE on duty for about 14 years. When purchased it would hit several inches high at 15 yards. It was returned to Kimber (1-week turnaround), who replaced the front sight and it was well regulated when I received it back. I was my department's top shooter at every qual, so I guess it worked okay for me.

[@GeezerWheels]

LOVE your style, John! I started shooting 1911s as a teen in the 1960s (I'm 73). Still love 'em and one (lightweight) is in my carry rotation (my carry rotation is mostly dependent on my daily dress - I am a full time, still working minister) and where I plan to be (as in "downtown big city or out on the ranch (l live in a wilderness area, replete with ABUNDANT bears, lions, lots of coyotes, bobcats, etc.). To be brief: high capacity mag (9mms) for "serious social work" in big cities, and 1911 (.45 acp) for the ranch (mine even cycles with CCI shot shells - we have lots of rattle snakes!). Thanks for yet another entertaining and informative vid! -GeezerWheels in SW Colorado (May God richly bless you and your family!)

[@izzyplusplusplus1004]

I ran a Portuguese browning copy, and ran a couple thousand rounds through it, and the only time it ever jammed was when I tried a magdump with Tula ammo.