The Psychiatrist and the Selfie | Full Episode

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[@Saiyan_B]

Y’all need to fix your episodes on paramount + there’s multiple of the same one and the seasons don’t line up

[@theoryofpersonality1420]

All this time and I didn't know you had a KZbin channel as well. You should to run a KZbin add. So glad I found you. 😊

[@christinamerklin2166]

Wow, she gets off Scott free

[@christinamerklin2166]

He definitely should do some time, but SHE needs to be tried!

[@jmyriahsouthwell2340]

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[@besufekad9]

I'd say this is probably the only 48 hours episode I felt happy after watching. Justice is well served in this one. I am glad the father survived

[@DJJahT]

Dr. Weiss "the victim" is possibly the one gaslighting everybody, making his ex-wife act insane and others too, all while acting calm and innocent. It is a classic pattern and anytime you see stories like this that doesn't make sense it is often because you're missing the real problem provoker.

[@Adelicows]

Yes. I was surprised that Pam got what she deserved.

[@lhr8833]

@@Adelicows she still got processed years after him, when was obvious that she manipulated him to the extreme. She even made a map and the plan, how did it took so long to see her as responsible?

[@tim6385]

Maybe a spoiler alert alert next time dude.

[@lhr8833]

@@tim6385 😂 but is a good spoiler! Sad what happened, sad it took so long for the mastermind to be charged, but at the end it happened. How many cases we see that the person should have been in prison and still end up trying again and successfully gets what they want? Is refreshing to know had a good ending.

[@Flaubert]

🚩1 - It is highly unethical for a psychiatrist to therapize a family member 🚩2 - It is even more unethical to let the patient move in and engage with them on such a personal level

[@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724]

Precisely!!

[@GD-xc4wg]

Yes it is sick, insane, odd...

[@lhr8833]

And he was still in his teens!!!!

[@rameshrolla1574]

So Jake's parents are to blame to agree to that

[@lhr8833]

@@rameshrolla1574 as much as I can see the pain in their faces and I believe they understand they failed their son, I do think they have part of the responsibility. For me she is the person with more responsibility in this, she was the professional with a license and a code of conduct, she was the adult grooming and manipulating a young person, she was the one that saw him in jail for years and abandoned him instead of taking responsibility for what he did, she is a horrible person, but what parents send their teen, even if is an older teen, but he is still unstable to live with this older woman that is already violating all rules of therapy and think it will be ok? I think they were naive or trusted her blindly. I do feel they truly regret it and are in much pain.

[@kathleenreynolds7113]

She’s a cruel person to take advantage of someone with obviously mental health problems. It’s sickening

[@hebrewmama]

In the clip of them at he guys bar mitzvah you can see the crazy in her eyes 👀 scary 😟

[@FirstNameLastName-wt5to]

I work for a medical research institution. No one wants to work with the department of psychiatry because they are almost all narcissists that make life miserable for staff. I can’t imagine what they do to their vulnerable patients. The field attracts evil. It gives you ultimate control over vulnerable people.

[@howardgofstein7366]

Treating a relative is inappropriate. Having that relative move in with you is inappropriate. Inviting him into bed with you and your minor child, clad only in his underwear, is inappropriate

[@user-ur9wy1lt8z]

Many young psychotic girls who are damaged good themselves take up psychology in college because they think they can be a good judge to evaluate others. And they think it's fascinating to be a psychiatrist student. But they have little empathy for others as a doctor. You will see many of these female psychologists are often cold and will show no emotion on their face when they listen to your troubles.

[@babyofmyfamily]

Exactly, and then throwing him under the bus like she's so innocent. It infuriates me so bad!!!

[@charleneyap6708]

Im no doctor but looking the face at that woman, shes unwell

[@dante6985]

Looks aren't always the best indicator (Ted Bundy was able to lure women into a false sense of security because he 'looked normal') but she has crazy eyes (the sad, tired kind). Shayna Hubers (famous Jodi Arias-esque case) had crazy eyes too, but the wild over-energized kind.

[@whyknow6911]

I thought she was the patient from the thumbnail. Seriously.

[@LatashaHowell-om2og]

😂😂😂

[@PianoGesang]

The same applies to the perpetrator and his mom.

[@SierraMiller-w7g]

Exactly what I was thinking!

[@moeskeetz5473]

She was definitely the mastermind behind this crime. She manipulated him, supplied the weapons and drew a map. The fact that she thought she would get off Scott free after he was sentenced is what’s mind boggling to me.

[@Taylor_mamaof2]

I believe him. Especially after hearing her excuse for the map. Why tf would he need to know the ins and outs of the apartment building to get to the daycare?! She wrote the daycare down because she knows he’s familiar with that location. Add that to the footage of her buying a sledgehammer. How did she get away with that?!

[@drdrew3]

She DIDN’T “get away with it”. In fact the video of her buying the sledgehammer was a key piece of evidence used against her

[@lhr8833]

@@drdrew3 still she got processed years after him, they didn’t believe him at the beginning. If I remember well, not even her medical license was suspended and ethically she shouldn’t have been treating a family member. She ended in jail, good, but still was able to manipulate more people and almost escaped the country.

[@redacted2275]

​@@drdrew3Are you an imbeciIe? Of course the comment meant getting away BACK THEN.

[@drdrew3]

@@lhr8833 She committed the crime and went to jail for it. Sorry it didn’t happen quick enough for your liking. It was a very complicated and somewhat unique case. If laws enforcement and prosecutors had rushed out she may very well have gone free. You can’t have your Legal cake and eat it too. Sometimes justice is worth the wait

[@whitedragoness23]

@@lhr8833I feel like she was getting a bit too close to her family member

[@temekarollins6007]

His text to her, when he got to the hospital told it all. He texted her, as if she already knew details, because had she not, she would have call his phone, in a panic of confusion on what was the reason behind the attack, not text, "Where?" Like, where, what?

[@vaska1999]

I took that to be the shorthand for "which hospital".

[@SummerBayJournal]

Loving the prosectution at Pamela's sentencing. Just because she accepted a plea deal doesn't mean she should somehow be praised an amazing human being. I love that they stated for the record all the terrible things she did - plea deal or no plea deal.

[@DJJahT]

Dr. Weiss "the victim" is possibly the one gaslighting everybody, making his ex-wife act insane and others too, all while acting calm and innocent. It is a classic pattern and anytime you see stories like this that doesn't make sense it is often because you're missing the real problem provoker.

[@SummerBayJournal]

@@DJJahT I'm not under the delusion any of them are squeaky clean, tbh. But I still liked the prosecution making the point that just because someone takes a plea deal doesn't mean it shouldn't be said for the record what they did. I wish more would do that.

[@ssllsg9439]

@@SummerBayJournal really? throughout the whole vid,the only suuspicious thing is that she bought the sledgehammer. thats it.... i dont think that alone is enough to brand someone as the mastermind.

[@runelillebuen6422]

@@ssllsg9439 so the sledgehammer was the only suspicious thing? you just branded yourself as a mastermind...Jenius .....yes,with a J!

[@justlikehoney1859]

@@runelillebuen6422 😂

[@idakindlund979]

Super similar to a Swedish true crime story I heard of recently. The flighting couple are attorneys and she consoles a woman crying in a restaurant restroom. She then makes this woman, with a history of mental health issues, take out loans to pay for hit men and even tries to get her to recruit her own son/boy in her custody. She claimed the ex husband was abusing their children and it was to rescue the children. The ex husband was shot but survived.

[@emmamontgomery5391]

Oh that's interesting. What's the name of the case so I can look it up? Thanks!

[@idakindlund979]

@@emmamontgomery5391 The victims name is Henrik Olsson Lilja but I don't know how easy it will be to find reports on it outside of Swedish media..

[@emmamontgomery5391]

@@idakindlund979 thank you!

[@agravery223]

@@idakindlund979 it's a famous case because he was ASap Rocky [Rihanna bf] lawyer... I Google him and that immediately popped up.

[@markayahill3912]

I’m really not convinced there wasn’t a romantic relationship between these two, frankly.

[@Rambo-John-J]

I agree. Why would she draw the line at sex? When she did not draw any lines anywhere else

[@dligg413]

She manipulated her own cousin that’s just sad , I believe him she was definitely telling him to do this, she prayed on his weakness and talked him into doing this … I’m glad the father survived

[@lisas2538]

I don’t believe Jake would have harmed anyone if it weren’t for Buchbinder. She manipulated a troubled person. I feel so sorry for Jake’s parents. They seem like good people.

[@PolackZac]

😢😢😢😢

[@Lennybird91]

This is a great example of the power of stochastic terrorism, and a huge reason why right-wing media tries so hard to push this groomer thing on the left. They're weaponizing their gullible base.

[@tamitribbiani7907]

I think he needed mental help, not prison!

[@merhona3472]

"It was a cult of two". Just look at their eyes. You can tell which pair belong to a follower and which intense pair belongs to the manipulator.

[@SavedByJesusHeimatLiebe]

this is probably the answer which is closest to the truth

[@MegaHerrera89]

I agree. Both are guilty.

[@matthiasstephens2265]

Guys before you have a child with a woman who has eyes like hers and is a psych doctor which about 40% of them are half out of their mind you better reconsider

[@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724]

I know!! Her eyes are crazy!! You’d think he would have known not to get in with her!! I swear!!

[@11Christys11]

@@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724- agreed! She’s homely and those eyes freak me out

[@r6854]

I've met a few psychiatrists on a social basis. They didn't do anything out of the way, but something inside of me was constantly on-guard. I have been in countless different pool halls, bars, etc. Always listen to your instincts. If you feel uncomfortable inside when you shouldn't, that is your primordial subconscious screaming at you, that something is wrong. It doesn't matter if you can't put your finger on it or not, but something is triggering a 'survival/vigilant' mindset. We have all experienced at sometime in our life. A drive to work you take everyday and something inside of you just seems to know that a vehicle ahead of you is getting ready to do something stupid. You see a guy at the bar, he is not doing anything malicious, but something does not seem right (most of the time it's a guy waiting for a girl and he is wondering if he just got stood up). When I met those psychiatrists it was that kind of feeling. Nothing you could pin down but something inside was very wary.

[@alanalycan3986]

Defo. Energy doesn't lie. We are spiritual beings before we are human. And our spirit guides will even warn us in the presence of people who want to do harm to us

[@sideglance]

@Roy Young: very well said 👍 You made me start thinking and realizing about some huge insecurity I had recently with someone. 👍 like you have just solved a mystery that I was unconsciously trying to unsuccessfully solve for months. Thank you for this!!!

[@r6854]

@@sideglance Always listen to your instincts. They may not be able to tell what is wrong, but they will definitely let you know something is not right. One of those things like, maybe you didn't see it, but your brain did.

[@rich2080]

That’s the worst map I have ever seen 😂

[@christinanoname5773]

I don’t give AF how bad his bipolar is. He knew the difference between right and wrong.

[@Lilcharlie78]

yes im tired of this free jail card. i have both bipolar and adhd doesnt make me a murderer, that is a choice.

[@fashionhistorylover]

​@@Lilcharlie78 You were not groomed by a person in authority though.

[@eduagonzalez]

@@fashionhistorylover if every person who was groomed became a killer, then the world would be in trouble. I’m sad for what he went through, but he’s not innocent

[@Nat0528]

yes he was manipulated to some extent, but is also a spoiled brat and knew what he was doing!

[@cmfrtblynmb02]

Exactly. That woman was a manipulator but this guy is avoiding any responsibility for his choices. He is also a manipulator himself.

[@breet1516]

One look at her tells you she’s unstable. Imagine having her as a therapist.

[@SukumarDevaguptapuLife-Smiles]

Jake got infatuated to her..and accepted everything she suffered, and saw himself as, so to say a liberater..! She used the the luring power of the words, to get him into attack mode..! Importantly she had no feelings for Jake..and Jake had mixed feelings/motives for her..!

[@Touchthepancake]

Exactly. And while she used her familial and professional position to manipulate him, at the end of the day he was a grown man. He may be chronically mentally ill, but he is not mentally incapacitated and he made choices. And his parents got him a high priced lawyer to spin his part-as they have likely been doing his whole life. Jake was under the impression that he was going to get rich off life insurance and get laid for life

[@ma3alena]

that man is taking zero responsibility for his actions! all he does is apologize and go back to blaming the woman. meanwhile, he hurt and traumatized a man for life!

[@lex1216]

True that

[@Synthpoptroubadour]

Meh

[@alexandergrape7271]

I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder 30 years ago and i'm here to tell you, that kid knew what he was doing. As for the lady, she was just gonna throw him under the bus afterwards. Glad they are both locked up.

[@meversusthesea]

I'm only about halfway into this video. But a random question came to my mind.... Who took the photos of all three (Jake, Pam and kid) in the bed or couch laying together and under the blankets??? I do get creepy cousin-incest vibes from Jake and Pam's relationship... The way Pam looks at him with heart eyes in the photos, and her text messages..so weird... I'm close with my opposite sex cousin too, but not THAT CLOSE...geez. And how much older is she than him? They were at his bar mitzvah...and she already seemed way older at that time.

[@Tallie602]

I wondered the same thing? Who took the pictures?

[@meatavoreNana]

Security camera maybe

[@chrys_10_na]

Omg!!! I didn't even think of that!! They all seem to be looking at the camera at the same time so someone else must have been present to take the picture....wow....

[@jayce0015]

I think they have a recorder. And yes Pamela is brainwashing jake that's why she seems close and sweet.

[@Kaails2424]

My boy Peter asking those questions casually following that psycho around. What a badass lol

[@SoneBlink]

Taking advantage of the vulnerable, that you should be taking care of, that's why they pay you. The lowest as a human and a professional.

[@SDesmond22]

Agreed!

[@WaotJay]

I have seen someone manipulate family members to be suspecting of another family member they were very close to.

[@lt.ripley1590]

What a lovely looking boy with so much to give to society on the right meds. This woman is evil to do that to him. I believe it. I can see by the way he is. It's such a waste of a lovely human being who can invent things and is super clever. I hate the psychiatrist for what she did.

[@jackchop1576]

"I can fix him!"

[@colinluckens9591]

She as much as put him in that jail😠😠😠😠😠.....

[@lovelyn2.0]

Thank you for uploading another full episode, can't wait for the next. Hopefully soon

[@jakezmoto1954]

Um… your welcome

[@VincentAnzalone]

"Why did you buy that sledgehammer?" Pretty easy question to answer

[@tyagu3107]

Jake‘s sparkling eyes, voice and the way he speaks… as if he is talking about something quite entertaining.

[@limasierra6639]

I can't believe he only got 9 years. That's insane.

[@fashionhistorylover]

He was mentally ill and groomed by his doctor. That is probably why his sentence was light.

[@tamitribbiani7907]

Its insane that he got jail time at all, he needed mental help not prison!

[@Alexandra_Wolf]

This is heartbreaking. I don’t think Jake has a mean bone in his body. You can tell. He was lost and unwell. And she needed a weapon. She’s a predator. She knew she could use him.

[@tamitribbiani7907]

He should have gotten mental help, not prison!

[@Alexandra_Wolf]

@@tamitribbiani7907 I agree. She’s a dangerous woman. Weaponizing someone’s mental state is what we villainize cult leaders for. This kid wouldn’t have committed a violent crime without her influence. The ethical lines crossed here and breached alone are upsetting. She built him up got him addicted to positive reinforcement and then threatened to take it all away and his family unit essentially by way of an outside threat she created. I feel badly for the ex husband. She must have been a real nightmare to be married to with the psychological warfare.

[@wisehiker]

That is how manipulation works. You don't know it is happening until you step back and take a look....I am sorry he came to his senses when it was too late.

[@p.ram24]

Moral of the story: don't fix your child's issues with medication, don't send them to a relative to whip them into shape. Take responsibility and tackle these issues head on. Way too many children are on brain chemistry altering drugs making the children more dependent on them. It is very disheartening.

[@monicarenee7949]

Some medication can help, but it can’t be the only approach or even the first approach. Most good doctors will suggest behavioral therapy first, especially for a young child. My daughter is going through similar diagnosis, and I have almost the same exact diagnoses as he does, but I started therapy first and meds help when I physically can’t get the motivation to do anything some days. But I refused a cocktail of meds, just the one that helps the most and the rest is lifestyle change.

[@sogno_di_carta6430]

I’m not against medications, but perhaps medicating a 5 year old is not the best choice long term.

[@laraoneal7284]

The psychiatric profession is indeed infected with these types as Buckbinder. I’ve experienced some real sadists within the psych community.

[@memorymuleya5021]

Really wanted to hear Micheal's side of the story

[@spaceycasey2226]

An evil and vile woman. She took advantage of this poor boy in his most vulnerable and deteriorating state. This is terrible. She ruined so many lives. This is so sad.

[@thureintun1687]

blewing kisses at her at the last sentencing was savage lmao 😅

[@Voicesunstoppable]

I felt sick in my stomach watching this story! Deep empty feeling! These mental professionals are so f... up in their own heads. This dangerous woman will be out soon is scary for Americans. Her license should be taken away. Most likely she will go to another country n practice there

[@Reptar4000]

15 years old and your parents are bribing you to get out of bed?! There’s the problem. This man knew what he was doing. Sounds like he’s been coddled and enabled his whole life.

[@QOB_LovesRocknRoll]

Bookbinder😂 looks like she hasnt eaten in years

[@MichelleLyn84]

If she had nothing to do with it, why didn’t she flip out through text messages once he text her with a bloody selfie asking what he should do?! Anyone else would be like wtf 😳

[@Analysis_Paralysis]

Yeah, true! She seems so cold-blooded. I feel sorry for all her patients who were manipulated by her. Patients usually trust their psychiatrists more than themselves. Really horrific. And I also feel sorry for the child. I hope he hasn't been traumatized by her.

[@DJJahT]

Dr. Weiss "the victim" is possibly the one gaslighting everybody, making his ex-wife act insane and others too, all while acting calm and innocent. It is a classic pattern and anytime you see stories like this that doesn't make sense it is often because you're missing the real problem provoker.

[@Adelicows]

When they revealed the $1.5 million life insurance policy that Pam convinced Michael to make her in charge of, it was beyond obvious that she was brainwashing Jake and thought she would get the money. Sickening.

[@Adelicows]

And then when she was arrested, she just happened to have her passport and birth certificate, and Cauldrons passport. Who casually carries those things around for no reason??

[@rebeccabejenaru]

@@Adelicows I do But my mother tries to steal that stuff. And I can't get it back easily. .... I actually taken to carrying a lot of important stuff. Need a bank box.

[@asalane20]

This is the clearest case of grooming and exploitation of a vulnerable person I've seen in a while.

[@sarahalderman3126]

Well, it’s certainly not the clearest case of grooming or exploitation we’ve seen recently, given the fact that this sort of thing happened all the time… the only difference is the sicko’s are normally male and the victim’s are usually female (though men do victimize younger men as well as women).

[@monicadonnelly4991]

“Grooming”? That’s a QAnon word. He knew exactly what he was doing.

[@lynn2684]

​@@monicadonnelly4991I mean that's the point of grooming. he thought it was right because she groomed him into thinking so

[@sketch735]

​@monicadonnelly4991 And she didn't? She took advantage of her position and had an unethical relationship with him. I'm in no way saying that somehow excuses his actions, but you also have to take into account the role her own actions and boundary-crossing played in it as well. She did purchase the sledge hammer, they have her on tape.

[@monicadonnelly4991]

@@sketch735 Call it unethical manipulation then. Way too many people are being unfairly accused of being “groomers” these days.

[@puffradical]

"These are two psychiatrists, couldn't they talk it out?" No, sir, that would be therapists 😂

[@barefooterin2817]

I was thinking the exact same thing...lol

[@nat7579]

No seriously tho 🤣 some people don’t understand the difference between the two and it shows

[@jennifernikole7508]

Omg that’s hilarious 😂 some of these interviewers 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@TMeyer-ge5pj]

I feel the same way when people don't know the difference between personality disorders and mental illness. They are two totally different things.

[@rainaeasley7863]

I’ve always noticed that the people that go into the mental health business usually go into it because they have their own mental sickness.

[@BabyPuma124]

Choosing an unstable person as your babysitter is CRA-ZAY.

[@laprimo21]

This was the part that stood out as a red flag from day one...why would anybody in either of their lives not notice right away that this was going to be a problem? If they knew his illness and addiction were so severe, he should not have been "hired" as the live-in caretaker of a small child. This is someone who could probably afford an actually-paid live-in nanny.

[@joancarrino890]

As long as they didn't have to take care of him because they knew they created a monster

[@SawII565]

wtf

[@nightsky3981]

​@@joancarrino890 I think the comment meant having the young man babysit the 4 year old cousin (her son).

[@mcpeewee68]

​@@joancarrino890 You are referring to the wrong person here

[@amybryant8813]

I love how her attorney states that "There's no question about her love for her son". Lie. She loves her son so much that she wanted to take his father from him. She doesn't love her son. She loves herself.

[@Elegant_Sausage]

Exactly

[@XiiXiByNikki]

Well Said

[@twincherry4958]

Thank you

[@ohmoflife1]

Most family killers are men and they, almost, always claim the same bs; as a narcissist is a narcissist. Attorneys are Attorneys: questionable.

[@amandas.7143]

i always say, “love you child(ren) more than you hate your ex” . share ppl! we learned it in kindergarten!

[@zenaslarosa5930]

That selfie was his way of showing his puppeteer that he was able to do what she wanted him to do.

[@Aquarius444K]

yup! And honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he asked him to send her one once he "terminated" Mike.

[@jenniferburton7044]

EXACTLY

[@jenniferburton7044]

@@Memory_visit Who hurt you? 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️ Seek therapy immediately

[@PianoGesang]

We're out to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of Oz

[@HoPeZz_N_DrEaMzz]

Yep and wanted praise bcuz she def led him to do so but she would be done with him once he did it.

[@rebeccawoolfolk5377]

I've been binge watching 48 Hours on KZbin for the past couple days, and it's gratifying to see an intended victim survive for once. I'm so glad Dr. Weiss survived this attack. I'm so so sorry this happened to him.

[@ImSharmelis]

Honestly I felt the same way! Listen to me when i tell you! I was an ID channel obsessed years ago. And I honestly stop watching. But for some reason 48h showed up on my “suggestions” and its been 1 week now, nonstop😅 !

[@rebeccawoolfolk5377]

@@ImSharmelis Same here. It just showed up in my suggestions a few days ago. Now I'm convinced - I'm never getting married or into any other relationship. 😂

[@ImSharmelis]

@@rebeccawoolfolk5377 we can’t escape it! 🤣 love & light 💙🦋

[@orissagrajeda]

Same here!!

[@HORRORDAD32]

Great Comment! So much negativity in the world, nice to celebrate where you can. At least the little boy didn't lose his dad!❤

[@maryr0410]

This woman got off too easily. She ruined this young man's life and as a psychiatrist no less. She traumatized her ex boyfriend and probably her son too. No scruples at all. She's the one who needs a psychiatrist. What a horrible shame

[@lynnyhen]

A mother who truly loves her son would not want his father murdered.

[@roshellegouldbourne787]

It depends.

[@TheBeezusjones]

And a father who loves his child would never want their mother killed.

[@wilkby]

​@@TheBeezusjonesWhat was that horrible whataboutism supposed to accomplish? Did you think she was talking about you?

[@KCsFunHouse]

That’s not true at all. It may be in this case but that doesn’t make it true across the board. There’s a multitude of reasons a parent will give including saving their child from violent domestic violence. This case seems to be more about selfishness by the mother, that I can agree agree with.

[@SamanthaP48]

@@KCsFunHouse - Or worse -> Being SAed by a father or Mother who protects a predator. In either case I can see why you would want a mother/father killed to keep their child safe.

[@Kiinell]

Well, Jake is now out of prison. She has 3 years to go and the son is now 16. Hopefully the dad has done a good job with him and he has a bright future.

[@ElizabethFisher-i4k]

Well said.

[@SewWhittle]

First of all, she shouldn’t have been treating a family member. That’s where this went wrong.

[@randibgood]

Totally unethical.

[@Analysis_Paralysis]

She had an incestuous relationship with her cousin. She was too close to him and had power over him. Telling him the father of her child was assaulting the kid said more about her than about her ex-partner. It was *her* sick fantasy. I'm glad the child is now with his other parent.

[@wintertrine]

Was also my first thought. Does not seem normal at all.

[@carriehazel77]

I'm shocked that this is legal, or even professionally allowable

[@MS-42]

@@carriehazel77 It's not professionally allowable. It would be considered a dual relationship and a conflict of interest, both of which go against professional ethics and would generally result in someone's license being taken away.

[@ameliashostak4764]

SOOO many boundaries were crossed here, where do I even begin?!? The fact she was actively treating him while he was living under her roof, watching her son, all the while she had control of just about everything in his life....is mind blowing! It's totally and completely unethical, and down right grooming if I ever saw it. I honestly feel bad for Jake, he's ruined his life, and without Pamela, I believe he wouldn't have hurt anyone.

[@tamitribbiani7907]

I agree!

[@whocares1739]

She absolutely had him do this. There was no reason for her to discuss her life with him. She had all the tools to get him to do this. My nephew off his meds will do anything for anyone and not even think about it. Only on his meds does he have the clarity of his own mind. I feel so bad for him and his parents.

[@JamiesLife]

I agree completely

[@babyofmyfamily]

So true, I work with clients like that. And stuff they no I like for example small things like, Dr. Pepper and so on their always trying to buy or give me. Anybody I don't like and fuss about, they don't like. They listen intensely. I have to watch what I say and do around them. They want to please and we as professionals have to learn how to handle them without hurting them. Key for me is SEPARATE WITH CARE & EMPATHY. Because things as small as a Drink can turn into a diamond necklace. From not liking them because you don't to hurting them!!

[@christyenglish881]

So do I and breaks my heart it's so unfair that she prayed on this guy and he was sick she should be in prison just along beside him shame on her but she'll have her day when she has to face our heavenly Father and Jesus Christ

[@nataliebondurant1640]

So true. My son has severe mental Illness. Yes he sometimes knows the difference between right and wrong but if you tell him something happened he believes it. If you put something in his head it would be almost impossible to make him forget or to let it go. She manipulated him and used him. I’m shocked they didn’t sent him to a mental hospital

[@babyofmyfamily]

@@nataliebondurant1640 Yes exactly. I work with them and I have 12 to 15 adults I'm over daily that is developmentally delayed. They are like sponges so I have to watch what I say to and do around them. If you are nice and good to them the more they want to please and get praises from you. They are natural protectors and this lady used this man who was vulnerable and liked her along with her profession to her advantage.

[@thrivingdevelopment2317]

This case reminds me of what one of my teachers told us in college: care professions, like doctors, psychiatrists, psychotherapists, priests, attract a lot of sadistic and controlling personality types. This woman shouldn't have been consulting people for mental illnesses, she should have been seen by a psychiatrist because she was nuts herself!

[@maplebones]

The cobblers children have no shoes.

[@tff8514]

EXACTLY!!!FACTS AND don't forget managers CEOS..oh and family too LOL deal with your own challenges . Tell no onE

[@morganablackwater2017]

Your teacher from college should go teach in elementary school - thats very crucial kwnoledge and college its too late to get it... Damn wish any of mine teachers got wits and guts to say that...

[@WindDancer435]

That could be said of a whole lot of professions like law enforcement, military people and detention center guards, so stop picking on mental health providers.

[@thrivingdevelopment2317]

@@WindDancer435 of course there's not rule that if you have a certain profession you must be a certain way. Professions that are highly respected for the role they play in the community, like law enforcement, judge, doctor, military attract narcisists who like the status that profession comes from it, which is not exactly the same thing. Going into care professions offers sadistical personalities the chance to be sadistical without really standing out. Just like a pedophile would want to work around kids. I am not picking on psychologist, psychiatrists, etc. I was just trying to make a point: someone's profession isn't an indicator of their character and good intentions. Don't take it so personally. Just because you are a good person, it doesn't mean everyone working in this area is the same.

[@hollykay4947]

The psychiatrist is the most skilled manipulator of anyone.

[@rebeccabejenaru]

Psycho The R@pist. 3 words in one.

[@oldaccount5217]

Sweet Home Alabama is convincing too

[@cherrymetha3185]

Most of them are mentally unstable themselves .

[@goldieslacks]

​@@cherrymetha3185 exactly

[@cherrymetha3185]

@@goldieslacks 👍🏻

[@inaj27]

The fact that she had her passports in her bags as they arrested her says a lot !!!!! She was ready to try and escape

[@wendymiller2004]

I agree.

[@PianoGesang]

To Israel

[@lealovesthesea]

Admission of guilt.

[@esahutske]

Is it just me or does Pam look like she has been awake for YEARS?

[@normamiller1283]

Lol

[@Tarlyne]

Huh?! I suprised no one has mentioned it! Its very noticeable I wonder if she has any sleeping problems, mental or health problems, or just abusing drugs? Cause she looks like a drug addict!!! I had a cousin who looked like this and was a drug addict.

[@anaferreira596]

😂

[@hellothereyouall]

Writing her own scripts lol

[@byttercandy]

@@TarlynePeople who do hard drugs often don’t sleep for days cause amphetamines make you stop craving food/sleep. Either a drug addict or a severely eating disordered person. Or both.

[@jenelizabeth7822]

I’ve dated a psychiatrist before.. when we started dating, my dad has said “he’s probably crazier than all of em”.. he in fact.. was.. crazier than all of them. He used his knowledge for evil. I’m starting to see a pattern here 😂 EDIT: Some of y’all took this comment way too serious 🤣

[@mindhackz]

Well yeah, many psychiatrists get into the profession to try and figure out what’s wrong with themselves etc. It starts as self study of their own traumas for many of them

[@Leah_F.]

My husband says the same thing about psychs!! His Aunt is one, & he calls her crazy too! 😂

[@andreabobbette825]

Most people in Mental Health either struggle themselves or have loved ones who struggle with mental health.

[@andreabobbette825]

@@bc5208 Who hurt you? That comment came off as unneccesarily rude.

[@davidjma7226]

Yeah the only person I ever fired on the spot (totally illegal) for gross disobedience was a Psych Major. She tried to psychoanalyze everything I asked her to do! And the company a household name multinational company stood right behind me after the event. Most doctors will tell you that it's not the inmates in the psych wards with the problems. They are very often FITH themselves!!

[@readysetno8853]

🙏🏼 Lord, thank you for giving me underprivileged parents with poor people problems. Amen.

[@tmp883]

For real 😳 like biggie said mo money mo problems

[@SabrinaMeShell]

@@tmp883 Yes ma'am!! AGREE!

[@embbermoon3381]

I know you right🤣!!!

[@carlamanrique8602]

Totally! I agree ☝️

[@jeffreyminor4701]

Thanks for the laugh. The whole world needs your humor. 😂

[@powerboatguy2308]

I was listening to this as I was driving, finally a question got asked "why did you buy the sledgehammer?" I don't think a sledgehammer is a very regular purchase for a psychiatrist living in downtown Manhattan.

[@Lms83]

Just the look of her eyes is creepy enough she's def crazy in many ways.

[@Janellabelle]

The family eyes.

[@patriciakeith6164]

She is way out there and needs a mental health institution for life her brain never got off the bottom floor .

[@patriciakeith6164]

​@@Janellabelle Hope the child doesn't end up with her brain level and can learn stuff fast

[@LanaAndJen]

She seriously looks creepy 👀

[@Dr.PrettyPsychiatrist]

Being a psychiatrist myself, this is scary and extremely unethical. Professional boundaries crossed so many times !!

[@arenat9705]

LPC here! Definitely unethical 😮

[@idakristinedemesa5234]

I do hope they had her license revoked.

[@willissudweeks1050]

Jake is a dunce. I have the exact same issues and would just laugh at any psychiatrist who tried this.

[@merrittpalmer4349]

"extremely unethical" is a bit of an understatement

[@lisavanderpump7475]

I think it's sucks if patient and DR can't fall in love I'm attracted to my DR

[@shelbi8273]

She hated her child’s father more than she loved her child.

[@ElizabethFisher-i4k]

And she hated herself even more to do what she did.

[@jackiekupper4972]

As a therapist, there are so many boundaries crossed with the cousin!! Dual relationship, unethical behavior.

[@wintersprite]

@Frithia5281 I don’t think it would be ethical for them to treat a family member (not counting something small like their child getting a scrape and needing to be cleaned up and bandaged). In an emergency, it might be different. I don’t actually know though.

[@WideAwakeHuman]

The severity of injury/condition being treated usually determines whether it’s ok to medically treat a family member. It’s common place for a doctor to write blood pressure medicine for family member - but you typically wouldn’t have a family member do high risk treatment or procedures on seriously I’ll people. A bipolar drug addict that seems autistic is definitely more similar to a high risk treatment that a family member shouldn’t do. If it was simple seasonal affective disorder that’s probably fine to have your cousin treat. So yes psychiatrists are similar to every other practitioner

[@doctorposting]

@Frithia5281 its not good practice for any doc but def unethical in psych

[@tankthearc9875]

not the first woman to manipulte a man to killing her ex and claiming they abused and potrayed them as a monster, she is guilty imo . that buying hammer seals it,

[@martyg2333]

She attacked her husband with a piece of glass. Sounds like several people in this story needed therapy, including herself.

[@J01324]

12 years ago, my cousin was in highschool, 17 years old. We live in a country where talk about mental health was taboo at the time. The school had a psychologist that was in her mid thirties. My cousin went to see her as she was struggling at the time, but didn't tell her parents because they didn't believe in psychologists. Time after time, the psychologist got closer and closer to her, it got to the point where she would bring my cousin after school to her house when her husband wasn't at home, and without my cousins parents knowing. The psychologist sexually assaulted her. My cousin never spoke up to her, never spoke about it to the school, or her parents. It was 3 years ago that she had the courage to tell me and my sister. She got traumatized to the point where she didn't get help because she thought that if she did, the other psychologists would do the same thing to her. Moral of the story, we need to educate our children about everything, even when the subject is maybe delicate or ' taboo '.

[@alyssapage1585]

In my 20s, I had an 70 year old female psychiatrist that I was seeing for adhd. Immediately trusting her + confusing her ill intent for "kindness", it took me awhile to realize she was a predator. It started as compliments each visit about myself, looks and body that orig. lifted my self esteem, but got weirder later as she started making comments about my husband not deserving me (I never once said a thing to make her think this), compliments becoming more sexual + she began making multiple appointments weekly for no reason that my insurance refused to cover so she started paying for these extra appointments for me. The last time I saw her, she began touching my leg and put her hand up my skirt, touching my privates. Our time was almost up + I Immediately said I had to go and rushed to door. She blocked the door and started confessing her love for me. Luckily even in fear/shock, I had the smarts to tell her if she didn't move, I'd scream and let the whole office hear me. She had no choice, but to let me go, but then obsessively began calling me 100s of times each day to apologize/lure me back to her office. I saved and reported her crazy voice-mails and was able to get her shut down permanently + license revoked....but the saddest thing to me was that this woman practiced for 50 years + prior to opening her own practice worked in teen girl detention centers and orphanages. The number of young girls she likely abused is so incredibly sad. Had I not been an adult woman, I could've easily been another victim. Even in a country like mine where mental health isn't taboo, the majority of people automatically trust these people to have their best interest. On top of it, nobody expects women to abuse other women/girls. Unfortunately bias cloaks these predators + they use it to their advantage. You really have to live life trusting no one until proven otherwise and that's sad. I'm so sorry to hear the horrific abuse your cousin endured and truly hope she has found some healing since ❤

[@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783]

​@@alyssapage1585 thank God you got her shut down! You could consider contacting a local investigative journalist to report on her and maybe resolve some issues for kids from years ago. Heck, when children go to camp, I bet they couldn't remember everyone's names, let alone know where they lived, etc. In order to report a crime like this. Maybe many victims would appreciate your testimony and the fact you fought back!! Maybe more would come forward. God bless ❤😊❤

[@misselanys1219]

Same with a fellow classmate in high school and a teacher. Sad thing she would never reveal which teacher even 40 years later.

[@addisonhinson6290]

Mental health problems can be contagious too it's a double edge sword

[@misselanys1219]

@@addisonhinson6290 no. Mental health issues are not "contageous" since there is no pathogen to spread. Do better research please

[@elisabethhallstein8644]

As someone with autism who has been manipulated by practically every friend in my life I suspect Jake may be on the spectrum. We have a hard time reading people who have really bad intentions and we often use alcohol and drugs to cope with burnout and to numb emotions we cannot process

[@skyeblu1722]

Great comment/assessment…..I agree….Jake is deeply troubled on multiple levels.

[@elisabethhallstein8644]

Wanted to add that I was diagnosed with anxiety/depression and adhd as well for 20 years until I connected the dots and realized I have autism. I have been an addict all my life- cigarettes, caffeine, xanex, pain medication and harder drugs, all stims to help me cope with my brain. Taking medication for depression when I had autism just messed me up even more 🙃

[@haritavarez5963]

@@elisabethhallstein8644 hope you find a healthy way to deal and cope with. What you are dealing with, God bless may you get healing in the name of Jesus Christ, my best wishes you are brave for sharing

[@barbarama]

I'm autistic and am getting autistic vibes as well. We tend to be gullible and are deeply loyal, albeit usually not violent.

[@WickedT312]

I felt that while watching as well. I have a 17 year old son on the spectrum and I can see that being a possibility in Jake's case. I feel like it would be easier for someone like her to manipulate someone like him into something of this magnitude. He didn't see that he was being manipulated. I am glad she is bei g held accountable. I pray Jake gets out and is able to live a normal life and toove past this situation.

[@tammysavoie9771]

That woman should never be allowed near her son. She's manipulative and frightening. Hopefully by the time she's out he'll be grown and won't want anything to do with her.

[@DS-rm2ou]

Sounds like he’ll be around 20 yrs old when she gets out

[@matthewscott1091]

*As of April 2018* the New York State Board of Medical Conduct revoked Pamela’s right to practice medicine in the state of New York.

[@emmanuelginikanwa283]

But no arrest? Ha ha...

[@IraMurphy-kq6nn]

Just in the state of New York? What about other states??

[@hfrt29]

She was freaking grooming him

[@helenmcdonnell2585]

💯

[@RyyanAndreww]

The psychiatrist seems like a wicked narcissist to me. Potentially a psychopath or sociopath? Evil. Yes Jake has his struggles, but Pam / the psychiatrist took advantage of him, manipulated him, and made things so much worse for him 😢

[@lt.ripley1590]

Well said Ryan

[@RK-su4hs]

@@lt.ripley1590seems being the operative word “ Question Everything “ Euripides

[@lisafleming9603]

Yes, well said Ryan!

[@yvonne2965]

I agree , she used him

[@jackchop1576]

borderline personality disorder

[@RoseBooksAndLearning]

Just adding- if you have mental health problems and need help, don’t let videos like this prevent you from seeking help. There are bad people in every profession and every setting but most doctors are not like this. If you need help, don’t let negative stereotypes and assumptions prevent you from seeking help. Don’t put your life on the line because someone in the comments said all doctors are evil or crazy. It’s not true. Seek help. And if you don’t find it in the first or second or third professional, keep looking. It took me more than 20 years to really find someone who helped me and he saved my life. I’m sure he doesn’t know it, but if it wasn’t for my psychiatrist, I wouldn’t be here raising my kids today. So don’t let all these negative comments and negative people get in the way of you getting help if you need it. There is a better future out there.

[@danielbrown1724]

Love Peter Van Sant “Pamela, we’re you going to use that sledgehammer for home improvement?!” 🤣🤣🤣

[@ebayguy38]

😂😂😂

[@umutonimarie5075]

Don't forget Bank account improvement too

[@Hope-fv3kf]

$1.5M

[@jesebel3579]

😂😂😂

[@Roses_777]

Lol he always homes in on the interviewees😂😂😂😂

[@drdrew3]

Seems like 48 Hours didn’t want to fully address the incestuous relationship that was obviously going on here. They made a half hearted attempt to suggest it then walked away from the topic entirely. Those texts are clearly indicative of an inappropriate bond. Manipulating a family member’s behavior with sexual favors is about as twisted as it gets

[@veracityhunter7777]

I know. I'm wondering about that too. I think there was more to this part.

[@herelieskittythomas3726]

I message my husband "I miss you terribly" when I wish he was home in bed with me in an intimate way. That woman was grooming her cousin for a sexual relationship if they weren't already in a sexual relationship.

[@veracityhunter7777]

@@herelieskittythomas3726 I feel you on that. Both of my best friends live in different states. I'll say "I miss you so much, bestie." But "I miss you terribly", definitely has romantic vibes. If they did not have sex! she was definitely leading him on with a sexual seductive tone.

[@Cathy-xi8cb]

Because it is morally wrong but not illegal. 48 Hours is about criminal cases. In case you hadn't noticed from the name of the show...

[@somanyfeelz]

​@@Cathy-xi8cb lol, jeez, why the snark?

[@hopeful8975]

If I were her ex husband I too would worry about my life for the rest of my life too.

[@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724]

Oh yeah- The poor, poor guy.

[@TheRight-handedStranger]

Yah besides that she is crazy, and wants custody of her son, but also she has another reason he made her irrevocable beneficiary on his life.

[@hopeful8975]

@@TheRight-handedStranger makes you wonder why he would do that knowing how she felt?

[@rebeccabejenaru]

@@hopeful8975 he didn't. She played everyone.

[@TheRight-handedStranger]

@@hopeful8975 - I think he was happy when his son was born. But he should have made it revocable insurance now he stuck with her waiting for him to die first. Obviously he was smart enough not to merry her but than made her irrevocable beneficiary, this is crazy. Go and understand psychiatrists.

[@JT-lw1oh]

Wow, the psychiatrist was cunning. She not only knew how to persuade/brainwash someone who was emotionally vulnerable. But it was her profession.

[@blingqueen2235]

Me thinking her last name was “bookbinder” the whole time 😂😂

[@wangechirahab8113]

It's not?

[@cjgem80]

So did I! Buchbinder*

[@rebeccaborrill1013]

So I just found out it’s not thanks to this comment. …. Slightly disappointed really 😂

[@vivienne6153]

Buchbinder= bookbinder in German

[@bumblebee5059]

😂same

[@melissahunnybee2you]

"We were giving him over 30 different kinds of medications--we don't know what went wrong!"

[@PianoGesang]

Hahahahaha very good!

[@Memiceelfandeye]

‼️‼️‼️

[@Frontier2000AnoDomin]

I don't know, but just looking at that short section of her talking at the bar mitzvah... I don't think I would want her anywhere near my mind.

[@agustinamagpie]

My best friend's mom is a narcissist psychopath, and a psychiatrist. The things I've seen that woman do. Bookbinder here reminds me an awful lot of her

[@alzychoze6591]

I hope your best friend is ok

[@NoName-kj6xr]

I was adopted by one. I could write a book.

[@dhvinebeauty]

@@NoName-kj6xryou should!

[@Lili3nlhilp]

Bookbinder😭

[@angeldip5797]

How do you know she was a psychopath?

[@MisplacedTexan]

I’m telling you… I went to psychiatrists and psychologists when I was a young adult, to resolve trauma from childhood. Out of 6 professionals I saw, 4 of them were crazier than I ever could have been on my WORST day. Thankfully, I ended up with two I could trust, and I’m fine today, 25 years later. But I recommend you do a background check on any mental health professional before you hand over your children. Honestly, there was plenty in the public record about that toxic relationship with the father (who she chose) of her child. That would be enough right there to send me headed for the hills. Thank goodness, I’ve never needed to do it. Also, let’s call Pamela what she is, among many other terrible things - a GROOMER.

[@rebeccabejenaru]

Absolutely. If you have ANY problem skills or are intelligent, you need them for medication..that's IT. Most are horrible people with horrible motives. Most ppl have similar stories.

[@LCx829]

I stopped talking to my psychiatrist “I’m fine”. I do phone consultations and basically just want the meds. My mom is the best psychiatrist .

[@timnorris6287]

No doubt

[@smooothlegs]

watches prays - former b e d side nurse who - ran from Nursing in 2005 sorry you had to suffer from these - educated programmed weapons on souls!😪

[@kanamichelle7404]

So true. I know a young woman who wanted to be a psychiatrist and she had numerous mental issues. Still does. Fortunately she chose another path.

[@puppyfacey8734]

She definitely lost her license right? I watch a lot of true crime stuff and this is one of - if not the most - evil, disgusting, heartless, cruelest stories I’ve ever heard. 11 years isn’t enough but I’m grateful she is at least facing some consequences and didn’t get away with such a horrible abuse of power & manipulation & destruction of another human being - her own family at that. Evil woman

[@tassinmonkeys]

They were totally sleeping together. She is s nutcase!

[@wotiluv]

Oh no 😢

[@nightsky3981]

They were cousins, but I do believe it too.

[@Rambo-John-J]

I mean, come on don’t tell me she drew the line at sex like no I will absolutely not go there. That is unethical.

[@happilysingle1]

I object to the insinuation that a person with all these diagnoses can’t take care of children. I have all of these. I have 2 children that I love very much and they are happy and healthy.

[@helenmcdonnell2585]

💯

[@kanamichelle7404]

Yes but they are your children. That makes a difference.

[@vaska1999]

Don't judge by yourself. I know one person with the bipolar disorder, and I'd never let her babysit anyone's children.

[@tacla6993]

I think he was infatuated with her and she was catching feeling. It's not fair to say he doesn't have a bad bone in him. He committed a horrific act. Yes she manipulated him into the attack but he was also a willing participant.

[@ClipZ_Gaming_1]

Exactly. This idea that people are incapable of horrible things is wrong. We are ALL capable of horrible things.

[@louisbrugnoni7639]

He did have psychological issues to begin with. She knew she could easily manipulate him cause he was damaged. He never hurts anyone if he doesn’t meet her.

[@amberbean2491]

He has bipolar it’s pretty logical this could have happened in a long period of time look at the symptoms sometime

[@praxym9293]

He wasn't willing if u think too much bout it

[@cosmosadorabilis7677]

I don't believe this one bit. She primed and groomed him using her techniques but I don't believe there was anything more to it than a dysfunctional relationship.

[@tomquinn607]

I'd say they were complicit. Selfies taken after the fact could be the basis of an insanity defense and he knew it. Imo Jake and his psychiatrist had a very weird thing going on.

[@granny58]

Psychiatrist and cousin

[@theeditor1149]

I also think they both were planning this. They both are twisted people.

[@calise7988]

Yes the picture of them laying down together right by each other with a blanket on top was a red flag for me . Yes as young cousins , that’s fine , but they’re adults & I would never lay like that with my older male cousin .

[@theeditor1149]

@@calise7988 I felt the same way, as children sharing a bed with a cousin would be ok but as adults...it's just weird.

[@marissabeth2514]

If Jake had been “Jackie,” and if Pamela had been “Paul,” this would have been a totally different story. We need to take care of and protect our sons as much as our daughters.

[@cyna866]

So very true 🥹

[@LotsofLisa]

So true. I have a son and always find myself reminding people young men and boys are victims too. But also, I don’t believe for a second the parents would’ve let their young daughter move in with their uncle.

[@andreabobbette825]

I did. I never trusted people with my boys.

[@audreymuzingo933]

I figured the comment section would have some reverse sexism posts, didn't expect to find one only 4 comments from the top.

[@lt.ripley1590]

Good point. The amount of men who are abused is staggering and won't do anything about it. Have you seen the documentary about Alex from the UK and how he was abused by his partner. She got 7 years. God his poor body. He was a few days away from death. If you search it it's on here.

[@idylledoll]

I can immediately tell Jake is 100% sincere, he's like my brother who has high functioning autism and is incapable of lying...there was absolutely no motive and like he said he had nothing to hide as he would have died for her. He viewed her so highly, trusted her, was particularly vulnerable and she full on groomed him. She is a complete psychopath who ruined this poor kid's life. My heart goes out to everyone who was affected by these unfortunate circumstances. Had she not manipulated him, I'm sure he would not have harmed anyone. She was telling him every day that the little boy he so grew to love was being SA'd by her ex, he didn't question it because he trusted her. Very sad all around but she should be in prison for life.

[@UnknownUser-j3n]

His life was in pretty bad shape already, dont get me wrong, i m not trying to defend anything or anyone.

[@ElizabethFisher-i4k]

My son has high functioning autism too and cannot tell a lie... My ex of 24 years a narcissist alcoholic has abused booth our children verbally and physically. It was sickening. It has taken me 17 years to heal from the marriage.

[@OM-or3im]

This is literally a dual relationship situation which is a no no for a therapist… i can’t believe she even offered this set up as it’s considered unethical and you can lose your license very quickly..

[@MS-42]

My thoughts exactly.

[@rooroo1704]

What does dual relationship mean?

[@mermaid30019]

She set it up to carry out her plan

[@OM-or3im]

@@rooroo1704 it’s when you take on someone as a client or offer mental health services to someone who is in some way related - ex partner, friend, cousin etc etc. It’s not allowed by the ethical standards of most practitioners (psychologists etc). The reasons behind it is that the lines can quickly get blurred and patients can get harmed (psychologically speaking). This is exactly what happened here.

[@rooroo1704]

@@OM-or3im Thanks

[@RideoutMr]

Can his parents sue her in civil court? After all they trusted her to help him. She is guilty & he was easily manipulated.

[@arhagamer2510]

Why ? They should have looked after their son They given full responsibility to her so they don't deal with him He should sue his parents

[@helenmcdonnell2585]

I think there are grounds for a civil suit, the parents however misguided intrusted their son to a registered professional psychiatrist for help and she acted totally unprofessionally to have him come live with her and her son, let alone become his svengali. I would think these would be very strong grounds for a civil suite. Manson was the mastermind of multiple murders and he manipulated those women, no difference here except he wasn't their professional board approved psychiatrist.

[@valariehunter5389]

@@arhagamer2510 The lady was a psychiatrist and said she could help their son. She prescribed his medicine and gave therapy. His other Doctors weren't able to help too much. Plus this Doctor was the boys cousin so they trusted her expertise. But the Doctor took advantage of the boy's weak mental health. I know this Doctor probably broke some kind of laws for treating this boys mental condition and then having him live with her. She knew better. His family maybe not. 🤔

[@differenttakethanmost]

@@valariehunter5389 ridiculous …they spoiled “their baby” as so many do and when he was a teen, when it wasn’t so cute and the spoiling couldn’t be undone, no matter how many doctors and meds were tried- they handed him off.

[@drdrew3]

They can sue and possibly win. But collecting damages could prove to be a lengthy and fruitless endeavor

[@SWNelson7]

I believe him actually. I think he could've chosen not to maybe, but there's no way he would've done something like that without his mind being bent by someone else.

[@donnahodges5596]

Do you know him ?

[@Hunterbunter69]

@@donnahodges5596 I’m sure this person does not. But that is the opinion of this person so chill

[@SWNelson7]

@@Hunterbunter69 thank you lol

[@SueP-D]

People do stuff all the time by others who are taking advantage of them. Evil can be very powerful.

[@donnawanna3680]

Jake is a liar and he tried to blame the victim he's a piece of s*** just like his cousin / psychiatrist

[@JanSparkles1]

The psychiatrist crossed the line when she accepted a family member to be a patient and invite him to live with her!! A big no no!! Her intentions seems suspish from the beginning!! The parents also have to be accountable as well, allowing their son to live with a single mom!! Geezus!! All this is creepy from all angles! 🤕😱😱

[@almaesperanza6821]

They are family maybe that is why the parents allow him to live in with her.

[@aliahalissajensen2590]

What’s wrong with living with a single mom?

[@kimthomas8717]

It’s totally inappropriate when laying around like that together . I think she had covert molestation tendencies too. Just creepy . And it’s really unbelievable that these people can do this and expect nothing to happen to them !!!

[@deebwylinington5066]

@@aliahalissajensen2590 a lot

[@Casper-ju9cw]

@@aliahalissajensen2590 single mom ew

[@elliecourtney777]

Anyone who knows about grooming sees huge red flags all over the place

[@happybergner9832]

👍yup

[@PoeticProse7]

My brother is a clinical psychologist; I ended up in 2 abusive situations and with severe PTSD. It broke my brother's heart because it is unethical for family to treat family. As much as he wanted to help, all he could do was be supportive while I continue therapy. Why were there no alarms sounded in him being treated by a cousin? This is infuriating.

[@mielissa100ify]

They clearly aren’t experts and wanted their son to get help. Who would think that family would do something crazy like this? Situations like this are rare. That’s why it’s being sensationalized on tv for us

[@ArtU4All]

However….. In the olden days, before the therapists, people did rely on the family, friends, good neighbors, community for the feedback, to look out for each other: the bad apples were known. Life experience and wisdom were respected . There were no psychotropics. And a good brother would look out for his sister in very direct ways, including , preventively, to divert the bad suitor, or help to get out of gone-bad relationship/marriage. This therapy business has skewed our perception of normalcy and obscured the plain view. These days it’s upside down, inside out: it’s nobody’s business, unless it’s the paid therapist’s business. Not good.

[@ArtU4All]

@@mielissa100ify “Parents aren’t experts”? - they are experts at loving their son. If the cousin was NOT HIS OFFICIAL THERAPIST, but only as a helpful experienced cousin, a relative, being generous with access to a little boy - that is simply familial generosity. Parents are not expected to be experts in “fields”. Parents often have to follow their gut and not see “therapy” as a panacea. As a society , we would be better off if the term “therapy” was replaced only with psychological or psychiatric TREATMENT. Because not all treatments are therapeutic, even if it is only talk. In fact, they could be the most insidiously poisonous.

[@trawlins396]

Oh please. Doesnt everyone say they have "severe" PTSD?? 🤣🤣🤣

[@Doriesep6622]

And to live with a patient??!

[@bronwyncleland7632]

How scary that a psychiatrist, purportedly trained to help others, can sink to these depths.

[@temposhop8739]

I've known some nasty people who became therapists. I'm no Mr. Rogers, but I leave people alone. GIves me chills thinking about them.

[@hannahriss1349]

We would like to think with power also comes good values. Thinking positive & that w more responsibilities also good ethics that are good and pure!,,,,

[@malibudolphin3109]

It's renowned that sick people are drawn to the psche field. One of most dangerous group of people who sadly like medical doctors are trusted without question

[@Findingtruth569]

They do it all the time in the CIA.

[@toonkachoo]

I have a simple question. Why did you buy that sledgehammer?

[@LadyAngela678]

Melon masher

[@stephf2053]

Sledgehammer violence.

[@ryantantalo4233]

I gotta say it was pretty awesome that Michael was not only able to fight back, but stabbed Jake multiple times.

[@keluvnme]

9:50-10:08 what a WEIRD PLAN!! This man was unstable for the longest, even going so far as to threaten suicide and people thought it wise to let him be a part time caretaker for a 4 year old??? That makes absolutely no sense! What if he had harmed that defenseless child?

[@Fakegrape7777]

Agreed! Such a bizarre agreement-why would she allow him to take care of her child if he’s unstable?

[@keluvnme]

@@Fakegrape7777 she might’ve been unstable too lol

[@sadiya2418]

@@Fakegrape7777 simple, because she dint care or her priority was too manipulate him by showing love n care

[@inventedcool1076]

@@Fakegrape7777I would also question what his parents were thinking

[@itsagoodday2165]

The doctor herself needed help and she used him to get to her ex. The parents of Jake also made such a horrible decision.

[@preciousOne79]

I believe him. I also believe he's remorseful. This is absolutely sad. He says there's not a day that goes by that he doesn't think of commiting suicide. I hope he fights his demons and chooses life. This woman destroyed lives.

[@haydens5370]

Nah this man decided to do what he did, no one made him. Why doesn’t anyone think men are adult enough to take responsibility for their own actions? He could have said “no”.

[@kookycoolauntkaryn5884]

​@@haydens5370 that has nothing to do with it.... him being male means nothing in the logic behind how people feel in this case.....

[@rlroark2457]

On a subconscious level, you u believe him because he is Whyte .

[@DJJahT]

Dr. Weiss "the victim" is possibly the one gaslighting everybody, making his ex-wife act insane and others too, all while acting calm and innocent. It is a classic pattern and anytime you see stories like this that doesn't make sense it is often because you're missing the real problem provoker.

[@einienj3281]

What's with these replies? Smfh.. A family member, a mental health professional, a psychiatrist manipulated a deeply mentally ill family member.. "adult consequences" don't apply here, not fully..