The Psychology of Gone Girl

[@winsenken]

In the book Amy did not win at the end. She asked Nick: "My Gosh, Nick, why are you so wonderful to me?" He was supposed to say: you deserve it. I love you. But Nick said, "Because I feel sorry for you." "Why?" "Because every morning you have to wake up and be you." And this last sentence kept Amy thinking about it.

[@astonnotreally2512]

Marcus Lee nah she still won

[@Dank951]

Actually, Amy won big time. Not only did she trap Nick, she made him the submissive bitch of the relationship. I don't even feel sorry for him because had he not treated her the way he did, she would have NEVER become unhinged. It's his own karma. Hell, I even wanted Amy to murder him by the book's end, too!

[@britishmiller3665]

@@Dank951your comment says alot about you.

[@Dank951]

Does it? It's fiction, relax.

[@monikap8777]

​@@Dank951 Surely Amy would be that crazy even if Nick didn't cheat on her. We know that because of 2 solid evidences: first of all, she pressed charges against an innocent guy waaaay before she event met Nick. Also, we could easily believe the guy was totally inocent because we get to know why she did what she did to both that guy and the Nick. It wasn't (mainly) because Nick cheated on her, but because he stopped being the perfect guy she wanted him to be, just like the guy before him. So Nicks fault was actually that he wasn't, or at least didn't pretend to be, perfect. And you can't blame a person because of that, it is not natural nor good for a being to pretend to be perfect. Second, we know she would do something bad to /someone/ because we also learn her problem was her upbringing and childhood, where she was constantly failing and felt miserable because of that. Her childhood was the reason why she acted as a psychopath/sociopath (i'm not an expert, but i think we can agree that she had mental issues). You can't become one just because your husband cheated on you, although you might want to become one if you find out about it.

[@upchck14]

The guest seems to miss the point of the cool girl trope completely. The host is trying to explain the prevalence of the trope to the female experience. His response is so dismissive of this, as he is dismissing any real analysis the host is trying to convey. He was essentially saying “men also have suffering.” What the host is trying to convey is that the way society is, there is not enough spaces for women to be themselves and this is exemplified in the media and they way women are portrayed in the media. This movie is historic in that it portrays Amy as a complex, flawed, and manipulative, characteristics that are traditionally portrayed as male in the media. The guest is fixated in his ego and thus misses this point and many other thought provoking commentary and analyses from the host. The guest really does bring this down, which is disappointing.

[@biavechiato]

Absolutely

[@jdcmr]

About Desi's death, what I got from it was Amy had to kill him so that she would have an alibi as to why she was gone. To me it was more like she took advantage of Desi's obsession and when she saw Nick on TV saying the things she wanted to hear, she realized she has to come because she saw the man who can play the game she wants to play. BUT, she can't just leave Desi's lake house. If she leaves and he's still alive, Desi will talk. She can't afford that, so she killed him, make it look like he kidnapped her and took her there. With Desi gone, Amy can easily manipulate the story because no one would be there to say that she was lying (even though Nick knows the truth, but he wouldn't have enough evidence to show the police to out his wife).

[@lilamedusa]

This guest is just so... dense. He really brings the whole debate down. You really should have invited someone who 1)has read the book 2) does not call women "females".

[@biavechiato]

He definitely didn’t get the “cool girl” concept

[@MsNoelify]

Re: the feminist conversation: 1.) why don't you have a women-guest? 2.) the feminist piece is the "cool girl" trope, which talks about how women have to change and shape their personalities for the men in their lives. Amy changed for Nick, she changed for Desi, the feminist piece isn't about her murderous actions, it's about her articulation of the roles women play that is unspoken in our society.

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Nöel Hennessey 1) Yes, I agree. It would have been better if Paulette was there, but she was unfortunately busy. 2) Good point.

[@dianamichele4328]

One key factor in Amy's behavior toward the end of Gone Girl was the loss of all her money, which was never mentioned in this discussion. If she had not been robbed, the story would have played out entirely differently. She was sleeping in her car. Desi was creepy, a last ditch option...and Nick seemed the lesser evil when she saw him on TV. I don't think her behavior was "impulsive" when she chose to return to Nick. She had no money. It was a very calculated decision. Also, the guest said Amy had no goals. She had been writing professionally in New York for a magazine. She moved to Missouri with Nick to help care for his ill mother. Left her home, family, connections. And then he cheated on her. This discussion NEEDED a strong female contributor, guys.

[@threethrushes]

Diana Michele Flagged for sexist comment.

[@allyroman2804]

She lost her job at the recession, just like Nick.

[@laurabentley937]

In the book, Nick goes back with Amy because he realizes that without her, life isn't a challenge, it is dull, and being with her makes him continuously and supremely alert. He will match his wits with her. His understanding is that it drives him to a higher level of mental and physical agility. He doesn't trust her, he knows she could kill him and make him again look like the bad one, but he decides, in a twisted way, to rise up and transcend her sociopathy by becoming more than he ever knew his capacity could endure. Her becoming pregnant sealed the deal, because he decided that his love for and need to protect his child was paramount. I am not suggesting that in the real world this would make sense: it would be too exhausting, after all, but he accepted this chilling sentence for himself.

[@paintergrl12]

I loved the ending, because it rang so true, symbolically. Anyone who has been with a psychopath knows that once they have touched your life, you are never the same. (I have been with one who is a compulsive predator who has served prison time.) It may have been extreme that he still lived with her at the end, but in a way, the movie's message is how they never really leave you, even if they just live in your head. I also thought the part where he immediately puts the clues together was SO accurate. It's like your subconscious has been working it out the whole time, but you are stuck in denial and suddenly after a cataclysmic incident everything falls into place. It's like the perception drawings they show you in psych classes...where you only see one thing and then when someone points out what is also in the picture, all the you can see is what they pointed out. I also loved how Nick was a jerk, but an ordinary jerk. Amy was an evil psychopath. I loved the contrast of ordinary badness compared to extraordinary evil.

[@billiearnold1733]

I think they've misunderstood why she went to Desi Colling's house. She went there so that she could make him into the villain and 'escape' to return home and become the hero. She was completely able to get out of the house but she fooled the cameras into thinking that she was held against her will.

[@bascal133]

Remember she had all of her money stolen, people were starting to recognize her more and nick basically apologized in her mind . It makes sense that she wouldn’t want to leave his house

[@wildlark]

I feel like the host is trying to do an actual analysis, and his guest is stuck is the whole "she's a psychopath, case closed" mindset. Kind of brings down the podcast. Yes, Amy is a psychopath, but I'm curious as to why, etc. The guest doesn't seem to be interested in that. At least, that's how it seems to me.

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Jordan Lark Thanks for the feedback, Jordan. Yes, Humberto is the guy who brings lightness to the podcast.

[@danialtello91]

Jordan Lark Your question is so brilliant. The movie itself was about marriage. First fundamental of life in the part of the movie. Every shit that is happening between them both was part of life. The Amazing Amy was her alter ego. Just like Dr.Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Marriage is a roller coaster. Sooner or later, it will fuck you up. 100 percent on that. But because she had a psycholgoy degree in her life and was honourable, people who are good at this can be two face. They know how to play their life correctly. Even when she was afraid during the time those hippies fuck want to stole her money, u can see that fear. Fear is everywhere. fear of hating, fear of telling the truth or lie, fear of not having a child, fear of everything. We live in a society that wants to know everything. The world is getting to an end. People knows everything. Media is IIIuminati. Its a disease. Everyone of us is a psychopath. Eventually who willing to do it and be smart at it. Life is a rat race. Every human wants to show and live their life normally, but a true artist like Amy would not do that. I wish she was my wife. I love a psychopath wife that willing to kill for you. I'll be damn. Cheers.

[@MsYukari]

***** That was according to her diary, which from her point of view, which could be real or fabricated, since she wrote a lot of things in the diary (in the book and the movie) that is questionable, in order to get her revenge. Other than how they met, anything else is probably almost all made up. In fact in the book, she actually says after the twist, "I hope you liked Diary Amy because she was just a character."

[@wildlark]

Yes, but she also states that she used reality in her diary. So while the diary is by no means a faultless source, we do know that one: it captures an element of truth and two: it depicts a marriage falling apart, which is safe to say was accurate and is backed up by Nick's perspective in the novel. As for the claims of abuse in the diary, they're left to reader speculation. Maybe they happened, maybe not. Personally, I'm open to it being either way. I could see Nick potentially getting violent, but I could also see Amy making up something like that. Who knows?

[@Jerrongamereview]

Jordan Lark You're curious why she is a psychopath? There is no reason for someone to be a psychopath. Psychopathy, or Antisocial Personality Disorder, is a disorder you're born with.

[@brittanycraig5871]

I absolutely loved Amy, I thought she was fabulous. I think a lot of people are forgetting that Amy was the provider in the relationship. Sure nick had the bar, but only because Amy bankrolled it. It does change the dynamic and is more than enough cause for all of it (any episode of snapped will tell you that)

[@smarti1144]

Snapped... Good old snapped.

[@SurabiJoshi]

You cannot compare Amy to Ted Bundy. Amy and Nick have a personal relationship for years, whereas Ted just goes around killing strangers. There is a lot to unpack in their relationship. I will not say how the movie is the best feminist movie, there are others with much better representation. But the reason I feel empowered seeing the movie is that it represents most marriages I see, where the woman is ignored. She moves to his town, plans her whole life around him and then he cheats on her. There are so many women who feel so helpless in this dynamic because of financial restrictions or because of children. This is where it resonates. Obviously, most women do nothing about it and mostly just repress their emotions, but it's a good movie to relate to and finally see someone do something about it.

[@capobvious]

(I don't know if they still read these, but I have to say something.) The reason we know for a fact (and not just in a fictitious/diary written way) that Nick is a douche is the "Cool Girl monologue Amy gives when we learn that she staged the whole thing! Yes, he cheated and that is a perfectly good reason for calling him a douchebag, but what really makes him an ass is the no remorse part! He doesn't even think he's in the wrong with cheating. He said, "I couldn't fake it for another year." So in his mind he's the victim of his 'nagging' wife. But he only really thinks she's nagging now, because he thought she's suppose to be a cool girl ("cool girl is game, cool girl is fun, cool girl never gets angry at her husband"), which is what men do! Many don't see women as 3dimentional beings, who are more than the stereotypes media has created for us. And Nick did the same thing with Amy! Instead of realizing and accepting her as the multifaceted woman that she is, he just wanted cool girl! And it's not that he's not a nice guy, but he's still a douche for not even acknowledging that he did shit wrong! That he was forcing her to be someone she isn't; stimulating his male fantasies. He (and unfortunately a lot of the viewers) sees himself as the poor victim! He's not! He's just a s selfish as she is! She might be crazy but at least she knows that! Rosamud Pike said it best in one of her interviews: "They got what they deserve -Each other."

[@DyLeN17]

+Antonia Schekatz They're both narcissistic. She also played herself as the victim, and couldn't accept Nick for who he was (a passive, easy-going guy). She was forcing him to be the man she wanted, and Amy herself states it, they were the same just that Nick got lazy. Both of them were the same kind of messed up people, and that's why them being together is perfect, and scary if you think about the kids. I agree that many men don't see women as 3dimentional beings, but same goes with women, they don't see them as people with real ways of thinking. The reason why these type of people are so prominent nowadays is also because we live in a society that endorses narcissism, and self-promotion. They''re both monsters, so rather than placing the guilt we need to focus on what they could cause. Interesting enough, many people recognize with this couple, this proves the idea that narcissism and egocentrism is rampant between both sexes: male and female. If that's true then it stops being about sexes, and more about culture.

[@capobvious]

Daryl Lyoenl I agree. And I never really denied that she's as bad as he is. I just wanted to make a case for the people who saw the movie and didn't get that he brought this on himself. People, who still see Nick as the poor victim, because she's such an obvious psychopath. But she also brought it on herself, because like many women, she started with an impression of him and then wanted to 'fix' him, so he fits better into her world. Which he clearly despises and she gradually ignores. They're clearly selfish and they both wanted to make the other person complement their lives and didn't see the person in front of them, realizing they need to make compromises in order for a real relationship to work. But you're right, the real tragedy will be that most people resonated with the couple, but didn't get the message; that it's necessary to see each other for who we are instead of what we want the other to be.

[@nataliap2705]

Great comment!

[@Beautyizme]

You just described my husband of 32 years. He's a Gone Boy now.

[@ioanacherciu3724]

Hmm I don't see Nick in the movie "forcing" her to be somebody else. She said she wanted to be like that in order for him to like her. It was her choice and then she complained about it. Instead Amy wanted to do the same thing to Nick too. She did not want to see his bad sides, she wanted him to be like she wants. So, in my opinion the "cool girl" monologue shouldn't be considered feminist, because its about what people sometimes tend to do to each other.

[@kayligo]

This just makes me admire Gillian Flynn all the more. Such a brilliant writer.

[@evabeezero]

I don't know if it says anything about me, but I loved Amy. I was rooting for her.

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Bumble Bee Zero I think many people would agree with you.

[@Saoirse_don_Phalaistín]

Bumble Bee Zero It says absolutely nothing negative nothing about you. It just means you enjoy watching a villain doing villain things. Amy is a terrible, despicable sociopath but that doesn't mean it's not fun to watch her scheme and manipulate. It's like how I enjoy watching The Joker so goddamn much.

[@anitanoterajes]

I've always rooted for villains for so some reason.

[@LondonSambaDancerBellydancer]

Bumble Bee Zero lol

[@brookejanssen7251]

Me too

[@tcvttcvt4305]

The interesting about Gone Girl is that no one in the film is likeable . Not one character . People feel sorry for Nick more at the end but he is still a pretty weak character . The most poignant line of the film was actually said by his character in my opinion which is 'I may not have killed my wife but that doesn't make me a good guy' . Which says something about the nature of character portraits in films . Where usually in movies about lovers- turned -psychopath a person's bad behaviour is redeemed and forgiven by the end of the movie , usually because by the end you get so overwhelmed by the heinous behaviour of the -psychopath that the lover's behaviour is excused purely because they don't look that bad in comparison . But that still doesn't make their character 'good'. It doesn't make sense to me that a character is redeemed purely because someone's else's bad behaviour eclipses their own . Even the character that I presumed was meant to be likeable to the audience /reader which was Nick's sister , I didn't particularly warm to . She was meant to be seen as the voice of reason and understanding , but she came across as ironically too 'cool' for me .

[@cheleine]

sarah lilith You don't have to like the characters to enjoy a movie. You just have to find them interesting and understand them. And I personally did for both the protagonists. I understand where they were coming from and I could even relate to some parts. Parts that made sense like how we always present our best selves in the beginning of a relationship or how a ruined childhood can affect you growing up. My point here is that you don't have to like Nick and Amy you just have to be interested in their back and forth she said/he said kind of story.

[@catalinarose3306]

What?? Amy is likeable!!! She is like a hero

[@davidhatch7603]

She decided to kill Doogie to create her alibi for where she was this whole time. If he was still alive, it would have been much more difficult if he was alive and able to defend himself against her word.

[@luciavalikova6911]

Enjoying Dr. Kirk Honda's analysis. At least his attepmtps because unfortunatelly the second guy seems to be just triggered and angry.

[@schoolprank11]

I think the most shocking thing about the ending is the scene with his sister when it became evident that he was staying because he wanted to. Not because he had to. Of course there were other options.

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Yes, shocking and disturbing!

[@macc2360]

Read the book! you really understand much more about their personalities and their motivations!

[@dalmationham]

I think the word you guys want is SATIRE

[@katani7940]

What about Nick actually wanting to stay with her in a twisted sense? I sort of got that impression at the end of the movie.

[@cloedoso3724]

He does. If you read the novel, nick sort of becomes infatuated with Amy's dark side

[@72melmo]

That's part of it for sure, but he also realises that as much as he hates Amy, she's perfect for him. If he did leave and end up with a nice, nurturing girl like Andy, he'd lose all interest in and respect for her and end up despising her, the way his father despised his mother all their married life.

[@baba3604]

Katerina Petrova I guess she was right about his lazyness. He decited he actually wants the stuff she provites for him. Otherwise he would risk a lot. And he also might enjoy the social image. He might feel to weak to say No!

[@suzita4019]

M.J. Moore

[@bluecollarlit]

he was at his best when he was pretending to be someone Amy might like -- Nick and Amy both realize this

[@scilines]

Incidentally, regarding the pregnant woman and broken toilet, woman who has to pee doesn’t always look into the toilet before sitting down. It’s definitely possible that a woman wouldn’t notice something wrong with a toilet until it’s too late. Not to belabor the point.

[@tcvttcvt4305]

The irony Amy in the film to me never came across as the 'cool girl' she claimed to be . She came across as elitist , high maintenance, aloof and kind of an ice queen . The SISTER of Nick on the other hand came across as the stereotypical cool girl (I'm not sure if this was deliberate or not ) as she was the one seen knocking down beers with Nick and saying stuff like 'go home fuck her brains out ' but yet she was the seen as the 'good' female influence in Nick's life . So in a way Gillian Flynn contradicts herself with her message , it's almost like on one hand both women do themselves and their partners a grave disservice by pretending to be someone they are not , on the other hand she's giving out the message that women who give in conform are the ones who end up happier and get the guy.

[@a-8007]

I am probably one of the few females who love the ending. I love the book and movie so much because 1. it is so well-written, 2. I see myself in Amy and 3. after so many years I can find somebody who can match the standard of Agatha Christie.

[@kaibakken6449]

This movie is fantastic. I remember I saw it in theaters with my PARENTS of all people... But yeah, I loved every second of the film. I actually took to liking Amy in a way, because of how psycho & crafty she really was... And how she CHOOSES to save Nick when she is just watching TV, and in that same scene, she makes that decision to kill Desi for literally nothing and frame the poor guy for being her kidnapper & rapist... And nobody questions her story because of how deeply invested the media was with Nick being Amy's killer. I thought that was amazing. The guy was nearly arrested and possibly would have been executed--but BOOP--now Amy is back and all is well! And the media just says "Sorry about nearly killing you, Nick! No hard feelings, right? OK GREAT! :D". Anyway, I love this film for doing something a little more BOLD than audiences are used to. Probably the first movie ever to deeply explore our modern-"relationship culture" and even the firestorm the media creates everyday with stories like this. It's mind boggling. I think it deserves more praise among the rest of Fincher's films. It's definitely my 2nd favorite next to "Fight Club"... Imagine if Tyler Durden & Amy Dunne hooked up... how do you think that relationship would end? XD I would almost wish for some sort of sequel that reintroduces Nick & Amy's life, now that they are PARENTS. Oh my God, just imagine that. I would hate to be those kids.

[@alvafairchild13]

In my opinion Desi would have died whether or not she went back to nick because of how he was being controlling to her again

[@Mokiimo]

13:00 The pregnant woman did mention that there was something wrong with the toilet, but Amy said it was fine. Re-watch the scene. and thanks for spoiling Fight Club.

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Mokiimo Thanks for the criticism. Always helpful. Jon Snow is dead.

[@Mokiimo]

It wasn't criticism.

[@MusiColeMF]

+Mokiimo you had plenty of time to pause it, you know

[@Eseeetacoy]

The toilet was not empty in the basin but in the tank, hence when the pregnant woman wanted to flush it, it wouldn't flush. Those details... ;)

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Monica Thanks for the correction. :-)

[@Andre-dr3vl]

Great podcast! She had to do what she did to Desi (NPH's character) to explain away why she's been gone this whole time. She couldn't just go home because she'll lose everything that she worked up to do. Once she was robbed, she had to execute plan B, which meant going back Nick. Killing Desi was the only way to do that believably.

[@suzita4019]

André Durham

[@christineawuor1835]

Amy is NOT a feminist...but I still understand her.

[@byronmars3368]

You guys have to read the book a lot of the things you find odd about the movie is better explained when you get in sight to the charactors thoughts

[@OrangeOctopusLove]

Edge of tomorrow was such an underrated movie omg

[@olga1231]

Is not on the movie but in the book she make everyone think her former high school best friend was a crazy stalker that wanted to be her and basically destroyed her life because she was getting more attention than her.

[@tracihill8758]

This is what living with a spouse who has Narcissistic personality disorder. Extreme yes , but Amy is textbook .

[@onlythelonely93]

I love our analysis - One thing:in the end of A Clockwork Orange (the book) Alex the main character gets away with everything and ends up becoming "a normal citizen "(if I remember correctly) after all the awful stuff he's done.Now that's frustrating.

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

+WAXX MASS Thanks!

[@christinefougere1444]

For some reason, all I could think of when watching this movie was Scott and Laci Peterson. Anyway I'm going to watch it again as a second viewing is in order for me anyway, LOL.

[@fahadbhatty7683]

In the film 'Nightcrawler' Jake Gyllenhaals character does horrible things to get what he wants and comes out on top and doesn't get what he deserves, and again much like the ending gone girl it leaves a negative taste in your mind.

[@Eseeetacoy]

fahad bhatty so much like what happens in reality. Life is not fair.

[@tcvttcvt4305]

yeah in my opinion there should be more films like that .There should be more films where there are no good and bad characters , people are not necessarily likeable, and where endings are usually either or unsatisfactory or unresolved . Because to be honest that's life .

[@jmissesblac2006]

I love Amy because I completely understand Amy.

[@markiemasucci3865]

Yo, I would LOVE to see you guys do a commentary on Mulholland Drive, its loaded with psychological twists and mind-blowing content

[@poorlydrawnstickfigure.6916]

Wouldn't the cameras in the house kinda expose everything? Great movie but that was really the only big problem I had..

[@NotShalune]

Since you touched on some of the cultural themes behind the movie/book I'm surprised you didn't get into the dynamics it captures surrounding the 2 traditional genders' perceived roles in aggression. That is that the male is presumed to be the aggressor and the female is presumed to be the victim. Nick runs into this from the beginning where his guilt is assumed by many, and he becomes frustrated in the knowledge he is not even allowed to openly defend himself. His only option is to ingratiate himself to the public with humility. Of course there's nothing wrong with humility, but it's troubling that society looks down on him for getting defensively emotional over something as severe as murder accusations. The same dynamic appears briefly with the related story of Amy's ex who had to plead guilty to sexual assault. It's particularly interesting to me seeing this idea of presumed male guilt and female victimization growing in the public consciousness these past years to the point that it's now a major theme (intentionally or otherwise) in mainstream media.

[@KurticeYZreacts]

i was toying with the idea that he did do it but had a split personality or he for whatever reason couldnt remember but i didnt ultimately think he did it. but the twist got me good

[@paintergrl12]

I agree with the inconsistencies you point out about the supposed feminism in this movie...except there HAVE been incredible empowered female villains even in 1950s movies. Have you guys ever seen 'Double Indemnity' with Barbara Stanwyck and Fred MacMurray, just to give an example.

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

I haven't seen it, but it sounds interesting.

[@paintergrl12]

Oh my gosh, by all means do! I think you will really enjoy it. Really enjoyed your thought-provoking conversation after seeing 'Gone Girl' last night.

[@erikavaleries]

The motivation of closeness of a narcissist or sociopath is nonexistant - it's only for manipulation - they know these relationships will fail, because all they know how to do is control and overpower a partner. They idealize them at first, perhaps, but they also hate them from the start and idealize them in order to gain control. I really don't think they want to form attachments or closeness - they want to dominate. A borderline wants closeness and attachment but also may revert to these destructive behaviors. This is why it's hard to understand the dual and triple diagnoses with BPD, NPD and ASPD. I was with a sociopath who definitely had all three. He became vulnerable and wanted some kind of bond, but it was more of a forced act - I think he was more motivated by power and control, domination, etc.

[@schoolprank11]

I'm very interested in the analysis of all this and it's very complex in what people do what they do. To me the main moral of these stories is that Parents can really destroy their kids. Everything we are is because of our very early experiences. Your role is a parent is to do everything to create a healthy human being. Not just pop them out as objects to fulfill us

[@KatZolitaMason]

A brilliant discourse guys. Aside from the psychological aspects I thought the film was good but not great. Greatness it seems to me comes from flaws and, for me at least, the film was too slick and flawless to be great. But I thoroughly enjoyed it and it has stuck with me in ways I didn't expect.

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Kat Zolita Mason Thanks!

[@ririririPXN]

I always thought the movie was a commentary and a satire on how we live our lives with very superficial values and no inner emotional world. Both Nick and Amy are ultimately people who are all surface and no substance. This is why they gravitate to each other as they are the prettiest and the shinier of our society without necessarily caring for reach other. Only what the other person represents. But also we all lust after people like that, the IT girl and the cool guy and they are rubbish people. When the movie came out at the time I lived in a rich and aristocratic area in London that appeared populated with only Nicks and Amies. To me, it made perfect sense and reflected my reality... lol...

[@90boyle]

i forget the name of tje fella who co-hosts but didnt he understand that Nick is stuck because if he leaves her the press would ruin his life?

[@90boyle]

not that nick is a good guy either btw

[@wondergirl2561]

I was confused about the ending. Can you tell me what that actually mean?? Was she going to plan a revenge again or she was feeling guilty?

[@lyndonbailey3965]

psychology of zodiac sometime?the characters?one of my favorites,love Fincheer!

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Yeah, love that movie!

[@Wargatron]

This is great but Amy isn’t a feminist, in fact she openly shits on other women for doing things she’s done, or making mistakes. Any only really looks out for Amy.

[@KurticeYZreacts]

it totally shifts in tone but maybe you have to have a darker comedic view on it. but i think its because we now have established this brand new view on this girl that allows us now to see it like we just dont know wtf is goin on and its a dark yet pleasant feeling cuz its so fresh to me id never seen a movie like this.. its very rick & morty but more dark and the comedy of it is on the lesser if you will so its a flip on rick and morty because its based on dark reality but then its over the top reality is such a shocker its a comedic shock maybe? vs rick & morty is based in comedy that dabbles with the dark reality

[@littlemiss8867]

That's Marriage

[@Ashleymfranklin1990]

What about monster

[@jeremiahmullikin]

She's a vulnerable dark triad.

[@cloedoso3724]

Moral of the story: Do not sleep with anyone more intelligent than yourself

[@Equus21]

I'm actually making a short film heavily inspired by "Gone Girl"! Excellent video-subscribed! :)

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

+Equus 21 Thanks!

[@lyndapoysor5573]

+Equis 21 u must be very young. Inspired is my key there - no long term co-habitation experience, good luck with short film.

[@KurticeYZreacts]

i absolutely loved this movie as well... just awesome interested in what ur psychological view is (here we go)

[@terrancefinley8513]

Plz do one of the movie 7 psychopath

[@larisas9460]

I don't think that's Nick's child. It is Desi's child, because he came inside her, before she kills him. Plus, Nick got a letter from the fertility clinic claiming his sample had been destroyed. How was she able to steal the sperm from the clinic, then have the clinic still mail Nick a letter stating his seed had been destroyed? And how did she undergo the insemination procedure without Nick knowing? And how did she find a doctor who was willing to perform the procedure?

[@mariakal605]

+larisa s Well Nick got the letter saying that it WOULD be destroyed, not that it was destroyed. And at that point Amy was still setting up evidence. And it's not hard to find a doctor to undergo the insemination procedure, they've been ALL over the news lately, as a refound-loving couple too. The doc would have no problem with it.

[@terrancefinley8513]

please do on for Seven Psychopaths

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Terrance finley Will do, Terrance!

[@KurticeYZreacts]

its ok if they dont like it. its not hurting anyone ultimately i believe

[@simsalasaskia]

the one who hydrates mcdowell's eyeballs in a clockwork orange was an actual doctor

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

+simsalasaskia Really? Interesting fun fact!

[@Monikainlove]

1:07:50 personal note

[@KurticeYZreacts]

lol u didnt feel it!? totally omg that is what i felt it was awesome and courageous for story telling in hollywood (in my opinion)

[@dwighttaylor2184]

i like how this film was simlilar to basic instinct. ive watched a few reviews and i never hear anyone talk about the erotic undertow being the super theme in this film. also omt basic instinct antagonist was also a writer who won in the end. but no one hated the end of that movie because it was blantantly presenting the erotic undertow whereas this was a bit more suttle. they shouldve went for a more curvier actress maybe that was what was missing. im an author writer of satellite e buy it on amazon today

[@KurticeYZreacts]

idky i liked the happy ending in edge of tomorrow cuz hes lika a huge winner idk it worked for me cuz its epic the movie rocked and earned a happy ending

[@tcvttcvt4305]

I think girls are judged only on their 'coolness' if they are unattractive and have nothing much else of value (in the eyes of the guy in question) or they guy himself is insecure and status orientated or concerned about his own 'coolness' . But if the girl is fairly attractive , its usually irrelevant how 'cool' she is .

[@lyndapoysor5573]

...and your point is ...?

[@jdcmr]

Great podcast, although I hope you didn't blabber too much about other films. Still liked it, though. It was interesting hearing the movie from a Psychologist's perspective.

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

+Jasmin Mariano Thanks!

[@I.pray.to.George.Carlin]

Amazing podcast on sooooo many levels. Subscribing ~ COOL GIRL ;-)

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Leighann Benson Thanks Cool Girl! ;-)

[@I.pray.to.George.Carlin]

Psychology In Seattle​ your very welcome! Next up is Psychology of Nightcrawler and the Depression (which I'm doing a paper on. :-)

[@LisaMeadnonpareil]

Give it a break, none of our shells are the shame. Maybe I Showoff Bess your heart; do not be starver of self expression. We all can

[@Sheath1819]

I've never cared about gender in movies.

[@netsthebest12]

the movie was great but truly would like a better ending.

[@KurticeYZreacts]

its aweful and its honest i personally loved it im a fan it got me good.

[@adamkee3648]

its not funny at all

[@KurticeYZreacts]

i totally agree man they are the same both male and female feel that feeling of having to "be cool" in order to get the girl/guy it applys to both sides i got u from the beginning man john Cusack is the cool guy therefore he gets the girls the cool girl gets the cool guy its fucking all over our culture

[@Lauren-cf3dv]

Pol

[@Mor-ft4vj]

Too long a video. Ain't nobody got time for that

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

+Morgan Inman Thanks for the short comment.

[@Mor-ft4vj]

+Psychology In Seattle anytime

[@dorothy6361]

Dr. Honda, there was definitely lots of humor there, and lots in Goodfellas as well. Hopefully you don't take offense to this, but I have noticed before that your sense of humor just doesn't seem to be there. I love the podcast and have listened to probably 10-15 of the shows, but never once have I heard you really laugh heartily, or ever seem to have your funny bone tickled. You don't tell jokes on the show, and you don't seem to find any of the jokes that your guest hosts make funny either. I figured that maybe you are just in business mode when you do the podcast so aren't in a mood for humor, but you didn't pick up on the humor in the movie either? It's gotta just be you. I'd be curious to know what you DO find funny.

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Agreed. There's nothing I find funny. I have no sense of humor.

[@dorothy6361]

There's gotta be SOMETHING!

[@smarti1144]

@@PsychologyInSeattle yet this is hilarious.