The Pub Where They Hanged Pirates: The London History Show

[@21poptartz]

I appreciate how you got a face full of river water to tell us about pirates

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Dafuq dawg. I’m watching she got the only view that matters

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[@celebrityrog]

Agreed. I wish I had a tour with her when I was in london. I hated my trip there and found all the cool stuff after I left.

[@charliecharliewhiskey9403]

Even worse for privateers, the peace treaties were effective immediately. If it takes 3 weeks to tell privateers in the Caribbean that they no longer have the Crown's backing, that's 3 weeks of unsanctioned privateering. Treated as piracy. I can imagine many men effectively being forced to become pirates permanently, not from choice but from happenstance. Of course, it was also lucrative, and huge numbers turned to piracy full time by choice too. Probably most of them.

[@JohnMinehan-lx9ts]

CAPT Kidd started out as a privateer and insisted (unavailingly) that he remained one.

[@ianism3]

aside from being lucrative, the conditions were also _much_ better for the ordinary sailors - less hierarchy and stuff. CGP Grey has a video summarizing it.

[@XerxesTheUndead]

My 8x great uncle is Captain Kidd, so not only am I just now learning where he was hung, he was hung twice and was left hanging for 3 years! I’m kind of speechless lol

[@BundasaurusPecs]

That’s pretty cool my guy, btw it is ‘hanged’ for executions

[@crondonjohnson4128]

@@BundasaurusPecs They are both applicable, stfu.

[@blindbrad4719]

If only he'd been sober when he was hanged, he could've argued he'd already been hanged so could have been drowned three times, placed in the Gibbit alive and tried to escape… 😂. Cool connection you've got there though dude 👍 don't mind if I don't invite you abored though… 😂

[@EH23831]

3 years!! EWWWW!

[@jasperfk]

Hanged, not hung!

[@shadowmancw]

I was at this pub this week and I was really looking forward to seeing the gallows. But unfortunately it’s not there anymore. Seemingly the cross arm fell off and floated away during bad weather recently

[@amycox5733]

Oh no!

[@paulsengupta971]

They were there last time I was there, but I couldn't tell you when that was - some time in the summer last year.

[@teddyboy9116]

It was there last week

[@sveinbjrnjonsson604]

You are a real storyteller, with a seemingly endless base of knowledge of history and some of its quirks. Would love to see your tours!!

[@romulusnr]

"Got drunk on the walk Down to execution dock For all the ships he's burned The tide will roll three turns The gibbetted Captain Kidd They gibbetted him, that's what they did" "The Gibbeted Captain Kidd," Scissorfight

[@streetcop157]

Stopping on the way for a beer seems very civilized……

[@johnsonrob]

Wow - can't believe that I have been to that pub, but didn't actually notice the noose!!! Great account, as always!

[@thecreativebohemian4927]

My favorite tv show to date is Black Sails. Such fabulous storytelling and poetic dialogue. Much of it is about what you refer to, how they become pirates to begin with.

[@dseray9494]

I'm laughing, I watch both Jessica Kelgren-Fozard and Tom Scott and didn't start watching this channel till a couple weeks ago I missed out big time!

[@cablethelarryguy]

Which videos to which she's referring?

[@alexrafe2590]

If you ever find yourself in Leiden, South Holland (near the town’s main open ‘square,’ (actually referred to as the ‘Cattle Market’) just south of it is bounded by a canal with a huge brick building on the other side. And at the spot where a bridge goes over it that segment of the canal is called the Galgewater (gallows water). I don’t know if all the people hanged there were pirates, Leiden is a few kilometres away from the coast, but I suspect some of them were. There’s a cafe on a boat beside the bridge. But no noose hangs there now. A little further down the canal heading towards the next bridge crossing and a windmill is a little open space where Rembrandt’s birthplace is marked, though the house where he was born is no longer there.

[@blindbrad4719]

Carnal pirates are the worst…

[@diannewheatleygiliotti8513]

Thanks!

[@ImNotCreativeEnoughToMakeUser]

My home Island is known for being so rampant with piracy that it bacame it's own nation. For those of you that are curious, I spent most of my childhood on Amelia Island, which was once known as the Republic of East Florida.

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I’ve found your videos because of your TicToc, and you would really make an excellent teacher. I’m an American and every thing about history is so amazing to you to learn. Keep up the great work

[@thomilo44]

It's so interesting coming back to your older content and seeing how your style has changed. This was very interesting.

[@toastrecon]

This is from the other side of the pond, but the US Dept of Justice did a study on severity of punishment as a deterrent to would-be criminals. They found that increasingly severe punishments weren't an effective deterrent, but what was effective: how likely people thought it would be that they would be caught and prosecuted.

[@Ed19601]

Totally correct, yet it is always a balance: if punishment would be a mere slap on the wrist, the chance of being caught would really not matter anymore. When one gets into the realm of really harsh punishments it is more about 'let the punishment fit the crime' and satisfaction of revenge. Honestly if one came at my family i would consider even being burned alive as too lenient

[@JohnMinehan-lx9ts]

Roughly10% will never break the law, roughly 10% will always break the law and for the 80% in the middle, it depends on how likely it will be that they will be caught. One of te major consultancies looked at this to see how effective compliance programs are.

[@Bobby-wn5yr]

It’s a diminishing returns thing. With no punishment or consequence… yeah things get out of control real fast. But you actually don’t have to introduce too much punishment to bring the rates down, and then as you increase the punishment further less and les reduction in crime happens. Humans are risk based so that’s why as cctv and dna evidences became common spread a lot of people stopped committing a lot of types of crime without authorities doing anything - it was now much harder to get away with them. Of course you still have to have the minimum threshold level. The system is there to punish first and rehabilitate second, that’s a crucial part of human society everywhere - if you do something bad you get punished - but it does mean there’s almost no advantage to making sentences and punishments worse. The US does a great job of proving how the death penalty has basically no effect on murder rates for example. But yeah, no escaping the punishment part. There’s an age old trend where people like to try and philosophise above the reality of being human. It might sound good to say the legal system should just rehabilitate, not demean itself with the role of punishing. but it doesn’t pass the sniff test unfortunately. We know serial killers are really rare. We know the overwhelming majority of murders are a single event out of desperation or some other trigger. Someone probably only needs to be caught and exposed, etc really for them to not commit another murder - once the trigger/pressure etc is released there’s no need to commit another murder. But we all instinctively know that if someone kills 3 people to cover up a fraud they were committing it’s not enough for the legal system to just say ‘well everyone knows now, you won’t do that again, off you go’

[@blindbrad4719]

So what you're saying is that more cameras are needed and defence lawyers outlawed so that prosecution of every little crime is both a 100% catch rate and 100% prosecution rate…, you sound unhinged my Internet stranger dude. 😂

[@anifsky1065]

At that pub (Prospect Pub), they had this one famous pirate hanged there. His last words, reportably, were "My Treasure? If you want it, you can have it... Find it! I left everything the seven seas have!" and for a couple of decades after that famous speech people like the famous "Blackbeard" and "Samuel Bellamy" went to search for his treasure. I'm always fascinated by history surrounding piracy, and the "Great Pirate Era" as well. Thank you for making this video! it was really interesting tbh.

[@tinaperez7393]

Omg, J Draper looks VERY much like Marilyn Monroe at the end there! It's pretty uncanny actually! 😮😛

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"they couldn't even retrain in cyber" that is a niche reference and I respect that

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I love your content 💕 I've always loved history, both American and world. I'm in US and hope to one day be able to afford to travel all sorts of places and explore. I did my ancestry with the DNA test and it came back that I'm like 90% English, Scottish, Ireland and then I have a large portion of Scandinavian countries like Finland. I have German and it's funny bc I'm 4.2% of the at most 8% people can be of Neanderthal. Which is fascinating. My step mom did her DNA test and she's like 96% English. Like all her ancestry is from there. I would love to visit. Your stories and how respectful you are over the topics, even if they're really hard like slavery, you are so respectful and you are definitely knowledgeable. You are amazing. I have been telling my family and friends about your channel. Thank you for all your videos and lessons. You're amazing!

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I’m an American from the Boston area, and I gotta tell you, I’ve seen some weird things in Boston. I once saw a man on a unicycle at 11:00 at night, wearing a tutu, playing the oboe as he rode along down the street. London seems wilder than that. It’s so big and has so much *stuff* to see. I would sell my own mother for the chance to spend a day in the British Museum. Anyway, I don’t have much of a point to this story, other than to tell you that your content is wonderful and I hope it continues to make you happy to create, and us happy to watch.

[@Foxless316]

Fascinating video! Thank you very much for your amazing content

[@brontewcat]

The thing about piracy is it remained a hangable offence (along with treason and a few other offences) after capital punishment is off the books for murder. The death penalty was abolished for murder in the UK for murder in 1969, but not until 1998 for piracy and treason.

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[@SpelCastrMax]

How did I not know this?! I’m a piracy nerd and did not know this was there! I hang my head in shame. Thank you for sharing! Sorry you got Thames on you

[@kents.2866]

Love your content. Very interesting to to see the places as well. Any chance you could cover anything from the War of the Roses?

[@larrykuenning5754]

After watching this it suddenly occurs to me that there's an inaccuracy in the last verse of "The Ballad of Captain Kidd," at least in the form that I heard on American radio in the 1960s: "To execution dock I must go, I must go, To execution dock I must go. To execution dock, Lay my head upon the block, And no more the laws I'll mock, As I sailed, as I sailed." -- which implies beheading rather than hanging. I guess there are other versions of the same ballad that find different rhymes for "dock." That's how it goes with folk music.

[@Hardrada88]

Another excellent and informative video:) been to this pub some years ago..had to have a rum in memory of the human baubles

[@thomashynd2291]

I had a couple of pints in that pub and saw the gallows when the tide was out during my stint in January 2021 as part of the military contingent that was sent to help the NHS.

[@paulmidsussex3409]

I enjoyed this and really liked how you dressed as a pirate at the end.

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Great video! Thank you so much. And please keep doing KZbin vids, I don't have any other social media. I guess your channel will grow eventually: I for instance got you recommended by the algorithm, which is a good omen I assume. Merry Christmas and a happy new year

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FYI, while I watch both Tom Scott and Jessica Kelgren -Fozard, I was recommended your channel by KZbin, possibly because those are far from the only two educational content KZbinrs I love. The first video of yours I saw was the one where you test the efficacy of mail on a...watermelon, I think, using a sword. It was excellent.

[@broadexuk]

Hi, I continue to delight in your videos which are so interesting. i used to work in Wapping and I noticed in this video the site of the old London Hydraulic Power Company which supplied high pressure water to power many mechanical devices around the city and west end. The buildings are (or at least were) an arts centre now but a lot of the original pumping equipment is still in place. I thought I would suggest that a video about the history of that could be a good subject of a video. Thanks.

[@tmarritt]

Been to that pub and had absolutely no idea, perhaps I might have noticed if it hadn't been half way through a very long pub crawl 😂

[@muppetsrule1143]

I'm definitely looking forward to visiting London again. Will have to try and book a tour with you!

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Watched yr shorts and enjoyed them all good on ya

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2:26 - that building looks like the middle part of a first-rate.. 😁

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I enjoyed this - I’ve only ever seen your shorts, but this early story was great! Sorry to hear you got Thames water in your mouth. Also good to see you outside

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I found you via TikTok and am loving your KZbin videos

[@jennyfulcher8035]

I'm reading P.D. James mystery "Original Sin", in which Wapping's Execution Dock is featured. I decided to look it up and found your blog. Very gruesome tale! Jenny USA

[@lindsayheyes925]

There's a river at Bermondsey called The Neckinger, allegedly because pirates were hanged near it - but since there is a River Neckar in Germany, the true etymology may have been quite different. The Neckinger is culverted from Canute's Trench, entering the Thames through St Saviour's Dock, and the gallows, it is suggested, was at The Dead Tree, a pub on Jacob's Island. Readers may recognise that place from "Oliver Twist".

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brilliant as ever!

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I love your content, the long form and the shorts, and I think you are awesome. Always look forward to your new content and love following your tips when I visit London. Thank you for being incredibly interesting as well as awesome.

[@HappytubsDoncaster]

Where the term “ I’m on the wagon “ comes from as when they stop for a last drink

[@lizicadumitru9683]

Bonefide risk ya took there J! Crazy got the tide comes up so high near the buildings.

[@AnneEWilliamson]

Wow, that's so cool and eerie! Though definitely going to visit it from inside the pub. I'll skip being swept out to sea.

[@onawhim9079]

Awesome video, thank you!

[@standandyliver]

Oh wow. Had a drink in there while I was squatting round the corner and went out back but had no idea about that part!

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[@neporushnist]

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[@annetteconroy6921]

I grew up in a town in New Zealand Thad had a pub called Prospect of Howick. Now I'm wondering if it was named after this pub in London

[@chrismccartney8668]

Well done

[@stanleybeckett7705]

Like the image of the noose being across the River from todays "pirates" - Canary Wharf! Lived in Wapping a few years ago and is a fascinating historical area, including rather improbably a pub which was by legend run by JMW Turner and his mistress! Now called Turner's Old Star.

[@BruceCarroll-wo9ep]

I love this girl!!

[@asheland_numismatics]

Cool video! 👍

[@chrismccartney8668]

Been to the Prospect also looks good seen from on the river..

[@tedcopple101]

As someone from Scarborough, the prospect of going to Whitby, is not something we look forward too. A little inter-town rivalry joke.

[@radiosnail]

THank God the Sewage Crisis wasn't in full swing then. Thankyou an interesting video. I had it in my head pirates were downed by the tide. Thanks again.

[@Nastyswimmer]

The Prospect of Whitby is an 18th century pub, named after a ship "Prospect" from Whitby. The pub is on the site of several previous inns but isn't itself the oldest in London. Execution dock, where pirates and mutineers were hanged, was actually several hundred yards/metres downstream and further out into the estuary. The gallows is just a marketing ploy used by the pub.

[@nagashthegod]

Really informative, thank you for this. Will have a wander down there next time I'm in the area. Pity they have a US Navy style noose hanging there now rather than the simpler one used by the Admiralty at the time.

[@pacificostudios]

Fun Fact: The U.S. Constitution still allows Congress to authorize privateers to sail the ocean and seize cargoes from ships of our enemies. States, on the other hand, are not allowed to let people enjoy the fun of becoming pirates, "Shiver me Timbers, Jim-Lad!" It's an exclusive power of Congress.

[@Ammo08]

Execution may not stop piracy, but it stopped that particular pirate. I got to see Execution Dock many years ago...I loved London..

[@petervanderwaart1138]

There was a famous racing sailboat named Prospect of Whitby. I had no idea.....

[@KevTheImpaler]

Was Execution Dock mentioned in Treasure Island? Long John Silver talks about pirates being hung and sun dried.

[@columbus7950]

I think the River Taxi has a stop near here.

[@Kevin-mx1vi]

My wife is descended from a man named John Stockwell, who was hung for piracy in (I think) 1805, but not before he'd bought a sizeable area of what is now South London, there being at that time no law allowing the authorities to confiscate his ill-gotten gains ! It's not clear whether he took his name from the Stockwell area, or whether the area took its name from him owning it. I wonder if he was hung from this very gallows ?

[@theobolt250]

You're so cute with those oversized shades! Beautiful!

[@andrea22213]

The tidal range on the Thames is up to 23 feet in 6 hours.

[@douglascharnley8249]

JD, water can be dangerous, be careful when around it.

[@Zenit_Bourg]

Funnily enough i first learned about this from Pirates! Movie.

[@banksiasong]

Ms Draper would be the best fellow student to have in a tutorial. Unis still have tutorials I hope?

[@Salt_Master_Queue]

I have a desire to sail the seas as of old, and be a "pirate." Not a "Pirate" pirate like CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow, but more of a showman that lives on his boat providing shows, entertainment, and old fashioned cruises for groups going on camps and/or trips. I'll have a few ships in the major ports so we can do "boardings" and other stuff like that.

[@john2001plus]

4:17 What is this painting and how is it relevant? I don't understand.

[@marksieving7925]

It's a painting of Britannia ruling the waves.

[@Jamesroy1923]

B. R. Burgs book is great if you haven’t come across it "Sodomy and the pirate tradition: English sea rovers in the seventeenth-century Caribbean“. The title is a little out there but learnt about it from Stephen Fry on QI.

[@pooterist]

A little late, I know, but I LOVE your videos. Especially this one, and the longer format ones.so interesting and well presented. Good job. No Great job. Just speak a bit slower please, if you can. And yes, be careful of those ever-so-slippery steps..

[@josephpadula2283]

The US had many more privateers than actual naval ships during the revolutionary war. It is in the Constitution, that is what Letters of Marque means!

[@groovydoo]

I am from LA, definitely a significant cultural difference between London and Los Angeles. Thus, my opinion is probably way out of order, but where I live, that noose would not be allowed to hang, and I am shocked that London citizens have not called for its removal.

[@derekmills5394]

You are correct - way out of order. Nooses in UK do not come with the cultural baggage of your lawless past. Hangings were generally after due process of law.

[@groovydoo]

​@@derekmills5394 Our lawless past? British due process? GBR, for nearly 1,000 years, presumed ANYBODY ever arrested was GUILTY until proven innocent. That paradigm was finally changed in 1988 when GBR finally caught up with the Romans, and 40 years after The United Nations incorporated the principle in its Declaration of Human Rights in 1948. I am sure innocents fell into the cracks and got hung. Having a well-maintained working noose dangling anywhere, especially in a town that is having its own crime challenges as of late, should either take the noose down or make it a sculpture, not a device that is ready to go. YMMV Thank you for posting this video, J. Draper

[@jasoncallow860]

Wow, chill, it's just a bit of rope. Britain abolished the death penalty in 1969, so it's a bit ironic coming from an american - you still execute people...

[@robnewman6101]

Interesting.

[@bettytigers]

I don't know whether it would be a good idea, but I could imagine a film character based on you and the scrapes (you hopefully avoid in reality) discovering a dark secret that needs exposing for the good of all that's decent! 🙂

[@pacificostudios]

The rule that the Admiralty cannot must hang pirates over the Thames is such a British kind of law (and I'm a lawyer). "No Tyburn Tree for you, lad -- No, down to Execution Dock you must go!"

[@richlight]

I love her style. Something about am intelligent woman with a sense of style, and a beautiful smile...... the accent don't hurt either hahaha

[@FictionWriter95]

Wait, I think I'm confused - so because the people being executed were pirates, whose punishment was the jurisdiction of the Admiralty, they had to put the gallows in a place that was occasionally underwater? Either I'm misunderstanding (very possible), or that is a regulation that is SO unreasonably strict in its "letter of the law" interpretation that it's frankly hard to fathom. (lol)

[@marcoyt955]

It would have been a nice idea if you would have asked the people who live in the house next to that alley. because they seem to have some kind of veranda attached to their property.

[@donaldboughton8686]

Be careful when venturing out on the Thames side steps because they are slippery.

[@EH23831]

At least you didn’t drop your phone! 😁

[@GaryJohnWalker1]

And the pub's the location of a fine Gilbert O'Sullivan vid from the early 70s. Only a little more cheerful than these gallows - "Nothing Ryhmed" - but a great listen all the same.

[@davidrodgersNJ]

Come in here, pirate. Free drinks! :P

[@persiswynter6357]

For the algorithm! ❤❤❤

[@OneDullMan]

*Canadian* privateers also helped Britain during that little conflagulation with them rebels in 1776 or thereabouts

[@duanefentiman]

please donlonger videos im having to go back 2 to 3 years to get the longer stuff