The purpose of SOGIE Bill | The Bottomline

[@mint2607]

The Bill has flaws but its purpose is good. They should revise some parts so it has no loopholes. I hope a better version gets passed.

[@melfortune5855]

in the words of thomas sowell, NEVER judge a bill based on its goal. marami sa contents of the bill vague at tsaka pinapasobra ang power of government.

[@mmchayek]

These people do not require laws to protect them; rather, they require mental health services to address their insecurities. Don't follow western ideologies, Philippines. Think about California, downtown Chicago, and other progressive areas in the United States. It is self-destructing.

[@bluedragonite5190]

many tend to forget that not everyone wants to make their sexuality public, anti-discrimination part of the sogie is nothing different from the previous laws that were already passed, the only thing we need to do is to remind everyone that all the laws apply to every single filipino that because of these classifications we forget that we are all filipinos and that we are all protected by the same rights, that we are all protected by the same constitution, that we all have the same rights. SOGIE bill is actually not needed, everything in the sogie bill is already in our law, what we need to do is educate our young people about proper behavior towards everyone through GMRC.

[@ramdelosreyes5632]

You're right. Technically, existing laws already cover the proposals on this bill. But this bill wasn't created as an "addition" to the existing. But more as a clarification and emphasis to the existing one. In reality, several groups (usually religious ones) would intentionally "distort" the meaning and definition of the existing law. Like how those protections would only apply to men and women, and therefore, it's still open season for discrimination and abuse to those "immoral in-betweeners". This bill explicitly and clearly defines protection for members of LGBTQ+ community, so that some hate groups won't be able to distort the definition of the law.

[@miakayuki1068]

True!!!!! Hindi, ewan ko ba ang sakit sa puso literal sumikip dibdib ko dahil dito

[@georgeambatcan6818]

No to sogie bill​@@ramdelosreyes5632

[@felitotunguia7882]

Please naman mga tao sa mundo please believe in God and listen the the word of our created who created you and me. How God will bless the Philippines kung ganyan kayo (2 Chronicles 7:14) God is not a liar but rather to obey his own word. people think God is full of love and forgiveness and understanding to allow me. But my dear friend the law is law and the law has no feeling. Still many Filipino people don't understand the word of God.

[@nayr3615]

Ginamit mo pa ang diyos,pasimple ka din namn.Isa ka sa mga mahilig man discriminate.

[@DeathItself123]

ang totoxic ng mga nasa coments iba na talaga mga pinoy tsk tsk

[@jamesporquez2643]

How

[@reggiederama4862]

Maraming DDS sa youtube

[@takemeback5170]

nakaka lungkot lng need pa sogie bill para tumino ugali ng ibang tao towards LGBT+ community, hilig kase mangielam

[@crimp7970]

ppl opposing this saying theyre not homophobic ur literally opposing our rights

[@givelobster6750]

Anything that we disagree with your arguments..you guys will automatically label us as homophobic... Why, simply because we don't share the same perspective? Where is your respect for freedom of speech?

[@jurithemusicdivaofficial]

@@givelobster6750 You'll only be homophobic if you think LGBTQIA people don't deserve equal rights as non LGBTQIA people but if you don't think that way, then good for you, I guess.

[@pdenigma9444]

According to section 5A of the bill: "It shall be unlawful for any person, natural or juridical, to Promote and encourage stigma on the basis of SOGIE in the media, in educational textbooks, and other medium." First Phrases of Article III, Section 4 of the bill of rights: "No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression..." It looks more like this bill wants to take away peoples' rights Yes to equality, no to this nonsense

[@givelobster6750]

@@pdenigma9444 totally agree!

[@jigzawtactics5957]

@@jurithemusicdivaofficial What rights do we have that you dont?

[@juliacruz5177]

Respect is earned. Respect other people para i respect ka rin nila, if not than how can you expect that they will respect you?

[@joancapati634]

No to Sogie Bill

[@rextafaraii7751]

Kami pong mga Magagandang Lalaki ay nakakaranas din ng diskriminasyon.. kaya po kami ay naniniwala na kailangan na ding maisabatas ang POGI bill na Naglalayong mapangalagaan ang aming karapatan.. Makapag autograph at makapagpapicture ng maayos sa aming mga fans. Makapag Gala nang walang bodyguard. At makapag CR nang walang MEDIA. suportahan po natin ang POGI bill.. tayong mga POGI ay lumabas sa lansangan para maipakita ang ating suporta at kaPOGIan.. #YEStoPOGIBILL

[@jamesporquez2643]

R/woosh

[@jackkim5403]

@Khim Berly Rosales just like Sogie bill

[@lancemanarang5328]

@@oliverseancerbo3477 sabi nga nonsense yung POGIBILL NOT THE SOGIE BILL

[@Tetawnga6974]

African Uganda President Museveni also strongly condemned and reject LGBTQ. India also don't pass the bill. Say no to sogie bill. Much love from India🇮🇳 Aizawl city

[@maryu3458]

Kentucky also other state of America following anti LGBT. They want to save family and children in homosexuality

[@herelcabanit6918]

The term "GENDER is Moral, not Political. That term is created by God, not by Men. WE CAN NOT CHANGE GENDER. IF WE ATTEMPT TO CHOOSE THAT, THEN WE CAN CHOOSE OUR PARENTS.

[@lancemanarang5328]

Sobrang hirap madescrimanate about sa gender parang di ka nalang makapalag dahil tama ang sinasabi nila

[@miakayuki1068]

Maraming bagay ang may descrimation hindi lang kayo, meron sa mahirap, edukasyon, itsura, status sa buhay. Bakit kayo lang? No to sogie bill pero yes to anti discrimination.

[@noice3374]

If there’s a protest and they don’t want lgbtq+ and this is considered a criminal act then doesn’t this violate free speech?? Im genuinely curious and doesn’t this mean some religions won’t be able to share or maybe even say their beliefs???

[@robinvalmonte]

There's a limitation in freedom of speech. You can express what you believe but if nanghahamak kana or nanguuri ng tao para lang masabing tama ka. Ibang usapan na yun. Kung maka relihiyon mo ikaw, okay lang yun. Pero wag mo yan gamitin para lang iinvalidate ang isang tao or para mang discriminate ng isang tao.. Kaya nga may separation ang state and religion.

[@ramdelosreyes5632]

Hi Robin. I'm gay, and proud. But I agree with Noice on this one. Criminalizing opposition will be a violation to their freedom of speech. I may sound like someone suffering from internalized homophobia, but using the law to silence opposition is not the reasonable route to take. Any concept and idea should be open to criticism. What we can do, is use education, the media, and online influences to reason with the masses to get their support. If we'll make the LGBTQ+ community completely immune to criticism, then what makes us different from those religious zealots who silence their followers with their questions?

[@noice3374]

@@ramdelosreyes5632 ye I really agree with this. Man i wish people can be open to conversation like you guys including robin and not shout and cancel a person like me who just asks about stuff.

[@yashiro3568]

Hi Noice, what do you mean by “protest and they don’t want lgbtq+”? Do you mean a protest against the community as a whole, or a protest against specific members of the community who made criminal offenses and thus, deserving to be protested? One between the two scenarios is wrong to be clear. As for your other question, no. The Church and The State are two different sectors and must be treated separately. Hindi dapat mangialam ang simbahan sa mga batas na ipapasa ng Gobyerno dahil lamang taliwas ito sa kanilang “paniniwala.” Tandaan natin, ang mga batas ay based on facts. Ang simbahan ay based on beliefs. At ang diskriminasyon na nararanasan ng mga members ng LGBTQ community sa lipunan ay isang fact, katotohanan. Habang ang kasabihan na “kasalanan ang pagiging miyembro ng LGBTQ community” ay isa lamang paniniwala.

[@milkpeach8091]

​@@robinvalmonte "namghahamak ka na" but how do you even define nanghahamak? Saying "I hate gays" is taken as a threat to the LGBT even though it's not a crime to hold such views. Passing this dangerous bill is dangerous to free speech when you can see in many western countries how people get fired for "misgendering" because the LGBT clowns feel threatened over it.

[@diovanniepontino4736]

Di mu mararamdaman na na discriminate ka kung. Ikaw mismo nakaranas....ng descriminasyun...

[@humss_r_13nathansantos93]

Tawag don privileged

[@celinaretorta5267]

Thy will be done Lord

[@cindy-jc2do]

i am shock that philopines thinl this way

[@diovanniepontino4736]

Aminin natin ouh hind matagal i... Penapraktice na ang discrimination..or. na dediscriminate na pla sa luub man ng bahay at labas ng lipunan

[@humss1simonibay563]

Ang ayaw ko lang sa bill na ito is ung iidentify mo isang tao thru gender identy hindi sa general and biological distinction pag napanganak

[@miakayuki1068]

Tumigil na kayo lahat need ng anti discrimination hindi lang kayo. Masyado lang sa diyos ay at inequality para sa mga straight, magkakaroon na kayo ng karapatan na pumasok sa cr ng babae, kasuhan ang mga taong religious na nagtuturo na masama yan. Grabe

[@raulradaza4928]

If we believe in God, then being MAN and WOMAN is God's Will. And if we redefined and goes along or agreed of what they claimed that it is right, diba kasalanan yan sa Dios na lumabag tayo sa kagustuhan niya? And being right is based on moral law, and moral law comes from the Holy Bible.

[@lilibethbernabe3780]

No tp sogie bill

[@rojancelis2158]

may human rights na bakit kailangan nyu pa ang sogie bill?

[@Carelmartyn]

Entitled mga anak Ng prince of the power of the air. As if Naman discriminated sila sa Pinas. Other people's opinions never stopped them from flaunting their immorality.

[@astracodilla]

Yes to SOGIEBILL

[@pacerhythm7128]

Daming episodes :

[@rjbarcelona3465]

Good discussions but i would be more inclined to believe your unfounded assumptions if you balance the panel. Again a lot of topic that i have listened to contained handpicked quotations either from the bible or other policies that it can be manipulated on. As long as your not making the LGBT community comfortable and free of corruption to take advantage of the system and not having the heterosexual community uncomfortable, im 👍. Otherwise im 👎🏻

[@wat344]

Tama na Sir Boy Abunda,, parang awa niyo na,, ayaw ng nakakarami ang sogie

[@DefendtheCatholicFaith]

Sogie Bill dapat nga ba itong maisabatas? Panoorin ang sagot sa video na ito: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYHHi42EatqobKc

[@angnunoband]

no to evil sogie bill.

[@polarisdeoxy4983]

Ay bubo

[@cbm4847]

ang masasabi ko lang sa inyong lahat magbasa kayo ng biblia..wag kayo umasa sa sariling...

[@Mike-se5qx]

Dami nyong alam eh Mali nga e, ipipilit nyo pa. Tsk

[@natydayrit1436]

Labag sa Kalooban ng Diyos Ang sogiebill nayan.

[@edgartorace5934]

No to SOGIE Bill... Discrimination define by this particular group... Special bill to para lg sa kanila.... Wala kmi sa inyong situwasyon... Pinili niyo yan tapus... Ikukulong niyo kmi pag di kmi sumunod... Anu to Pilitan... Sablay kayo!!! ... Bias yung particular episode na to...

[@polarisdeoxy4983]

FYI, we didn't even choose to be part of Lgbtq. Why would we choose a life that we knew we could suffer? And also, the Bill is for everyone. Be knowledgeable.

[@edgartorace5934]

Oh yeah... I am knowledgeable about it... That is why I stand by my claim.. It is unfair... Anyhow I respect ur views.. It's your personal opinion...

[@ramdelosreyes5632]

We have to arrive at this point because straight people just can't stop themselves from discriminating and abusing members of the LGBTQ+ community. So it's not our fault, it's your fault that you're too ignorant to recognize our rights. That your faith is too fragile, that it shatters at a mere sight of a flamboyant boy. That we, the LGBTQ+ community, had to suffer by either facing discrimination or hiding our identity, just so you'll feel "comfortable" and your beliefs "validated". Well, that's about to end soon. My advise, find other "puppets" to control to validate your faith.

[@faithdc693]

@@edgartorace5934 it is discrimatory in sports in bathrooms, shower rooms, toilets, education, health paano na biology and science na iyan female ka with female genitalia but if your a male with male genitalia pero feeling mo ay girl ikaw ay fluid, tas mababago textbook just for their whines?

[@edgartorace5934]

@@faithdc693 true...

[@islandlion8480]

IT'S ALL ABOUT GAY ADGENDAS

[@ethanemayores1605]

ikr as they should

[@blueboy3145]

Ang hirap naman sa inyo di kayo makuntento. Ayaw nyo ng anti discrimination gusti nyo special na batas para sa inyo. Kung yung community nyo nga na dati LGBT lang Ngayon LGBTIQ+ na ano yung susunod buong alpabeto na gusto nyo.. kung kayo nga confused sa sarili nyo pati kami idadamay nyo sa kalokohan nyo.. NO TO SOGIE!!!!

[@ms.seductive8175]

GALET NA GALET GUSTO MANAKIT😆😆😆😲😆😆

[@w1b3ee]

excuse me po? sogie bill is for everyone. and it's lgbtqia+ po. just admit you're homophobic and go. why are y'all so butthurt when we ask for rights? it's literally the bare minimum but since you can't respect that, were demanding our rights

[@turkeysandwich1228]

One of the purpose of the bill is again to diminish or abolish discrimination against all sexual orientation, mapa straight man or hindi. Highly applicable po to not only for people who are part of the lgbtq+ community but as well as women who were deprived of what they deserve to have just because they are women. Aminin natin, kahit in this day and age rampant parin ang misogyny, especially sa workplace.

[@faithdc693]

@@w1b3ee LGBT propaganda is based on emotions, eh meron nga diyan pagsuot ang blue ponytail he/him siya kasi he feels like a man , on tues white girl daw siys. she/her, wed red pony tail they/them. so ano ito ??? confusion. no to sogie bill, it discriminated woman. and children, and also men in general.kung noon pinagalalaban ang kalayaan ngayon kakainbang kalayaan na, kalayaan iexpress ang sexuality....nagiging norm na nga sa tiktok ang porno, kita mo mga babae even bata sumsayaw nagiling ng naka2 piece.. just for likes and views...if you open sogie bill and you say i am born this way it discriminates, pedophiles and criminals. saying they were also born that way...

[@Lloyd_Frontera_XD]

ABiaS-CBN

[@clydedanielvirtucio7879]

Agree. Wala manlang nag ooppose.

[@chivasvaschi3199]

Gusto nyo kasi maging superior. Male and woman. Tapos

[@ramdelosreyes5632]

Threatened kayong straight dahil kayo ang superior. At simula nang bumabangon ang grupo na inaabuso at minamaltrato ninyo sa mahabang panahon. Wag lokohin ang sarili, aminin na lang kasi na homophobe ka. Wala namang maniniwala pag tumanggi ka.

[@chivasvaschi3199]

@@ramdelosreyes5632 di kami threatened di lang kami IPOKRITO. Ginusto nyo maging ganyan tapos gusto nyo ipilit sa amin? Magtanim ka ng bayabas kung tutuno ang mangga😂🤣

[@chivasvaschi3199]

@@ramdelosreyes5632 di kayo minamaltrato. Kaya pumili para maltratuhin kayo. Alam mo na babae at lalaki lang. Galangin mo ang sarili na binigay sayo ng Dios( sumunod) lahat ng bagay may consequences at reward wag kang balat sibuyas

[@mirror3791]

Ram Delos Reyes pffft

[@babyghost4434]

@@chivasvaschi3199 haha pag naisabatas ang sogie na yan kahit ang simbahan pde nilang idemanda dahil sa mga kaimoralan nila

[@andreichristopherbello3895]

WALA PO AKONG INAAWAY. PANO PO YUNG MGA STRAIGHT PEOPLE NA NADIDISCRIMINATE?

[@_NOTVL4D]

paano yung discrimination sa mga straight bhie?? eh hindi naman sila nadediscriminate dahil straight sila ((:

[@kabonk3852]

kasali rin naman mga straight sa sogie. any discrimination against gender identity and sexual orientation is condemned under this bill.

[@rayamoyano10]

Lahat ng tao ay sakop ng bill dahil lahat naman tayo ay mayroong sexual orientation, gender identity at expression. Straigh male ka? May sogie ka. Straight female ka? May sogie ka

[@getcucked7900]

Lol sexual orientation naman yang straight eh

[@princessrose3179]

@@_NOTVL4D lol Lahat naman tayo na didiscriminate mapababae man o lalaki wag feeling LGBT lang victim sa discrimination please

[@kaboom2800]

One sided interview. No to SOGIE!

[@3dwarriorsvlog]

No ...sogie bell,, isa paglabag sa utos Ng Diyos ..dapat Diyos Ang masusunod di Ang tao...,

[@daze.d5462]

Separation of church and state

[@sonnyserbo7191]

Itigil na ang KABAKLAAN...

[@Durianshake]

Hahahahahahhaa..... Tama

[@bakedpotato2484]

az kals itigil ang pagiging christiano ❤️

[@ms.seductive8175]

Edi Ikaw Tumigil😆😆🙄

[@lizzieheartswifeandgf]

It’s the homophobia for me 💀✋🏽

[@polarisdeoxy4983]

ITIGIL RIN ANG KABUBUHANNNN

[@jamesporquez3682]

i guess i'm homophobic now.

[@sethyamba4307]

Me too

[@jackkim5403]

Same

[@jurithemusicdivaofficial]

I mean, if you are against LGBT rights, then yes. You are.

[@polarisdeoxy4983]

And u guys are proud of it?

[@ramdelosreyes5632]

Sadly, we had to arrive at this point because narrowminded people just can't stop themselves from discriminating and abusing members of the LGBTQ+ community. So it's not our fault, it's their fault that they're too ignorant to recognize our rights. That their faith is too fragile, that it shatters at a mere sight of a flamboyant boy. That we, the LGBTQ+ community, had to suffer for several decades by either facing discrimination or hiding our identities, just so they'll feel "comfortable" and their beliefs "validated".

[@izenngarddrayne6414]

May anak ka ba pare?