The Quacks of Quedlinburg - GameNight! Se6 Ep8 - How to Play and Playthrough

[@zottleporcupine8722]

Great video. Love Dave’s explanations with the others listening carefully and adding in relevant extra points. You are all taking the rules seriously which is good as it can get a boring/annoying in other videos where people mess around too much and talk too much about irrelevant things and it becomes hard to follow the rules then. You all have a good time playing and it is enjoyable to watch. The summary is a very good idea.

[@AhJong0]

I’m at 10 minutes in the video and I needed to comment to say what a superb group this is. I’ve seen dozens of these, so I know you’re all awesome of course, but the first 10 minutes could be shown at “Board Game School” for how to be a good group during rules explanations. I am always the one who reads the rules and teaches the game (and I love doing it!). I sympathise a great deal with Dave in these videos, so when he seems a teeny tiny bit off in his rules it is utterly fantastic to see the group politely correcting him and he politely receiving it and modifying what he said. Really excellent, super pleased, just...yes 🤗

[@lynette4119]

This! I love that they gently correct and also don't jump in with lots of 'what does this do?' questions. It's so annoying when people interrupt a rules explanation like that - I'm explaining it in a certain order for a reason, let me finish!

[@NinjarioPicmin]

@@lynette4119 oh yeah i know exactly what you are talking about. My father interrupts me all the time when i am explaining something and asking questions like "but what ends the game" "what are the dice for then" and many more, even though i prepared myself and know exactly in which order it makes much more sense for them to understand, it does not help to know some things before you know others.

[@rmsgrey]

@@NinjarioPicmin Something I've noticed is that often an order that makes sense to one person doesn't work as well for another - where one person related everything back to the victory conditions, another relates everything back to the turn sequence, and a third relates everything back to the tiles in play. Someone wants to have everything they can see explained, and then get how they fit together in a bottom-up, detail oriented manner; someone else wants the broad overview and how the various aspects fit together before delving into the actual components in a top-down big picture fashion. If someone keeps interrupting your explanation, it's possible that they're just a lousy listener, but it's also possible that you're explaining it the way that would work for you, not the way that works best for them. Obviously, I don't know you or your father, and there definitely are some people who just don't (or even can't) pay attention to a rules explanation, and you end up having to continue to teach during play, but it might be worth thinking about whether you can restructure your rules explanations to fit them better. I know I've had times I've been taught games and not found a hook to hang my understanding of the game on until three-quarters of the way through the explanation - and it's a lot harder to learn that way than if they'd led with the hook and built out from there. The catch, of course, being that different people will have different hooks.

[@NinjarioPicmin]

@@rmsgrey interesting viewpoint and definitely understandable, i noticed that with a few other people too, but i think in my fathers case it is more of impatience :D

[@thebadnotes7628]

I have successfully acquired an English language version of this today. You guys always seem to pick fun stuff which I think will appeal to my group. Thanks guys.

[@seniscram7958]

Thanks for this play through. My wife and I recently got this game and played it a couple of times. We really like it. Nice to have a light push your luck game once in a while to give the brain a break. We have found that drawing simultaneously through the whole game makes it more fun for us. We really love the art and components for this one too. Cute as heck.

[@crapuchettes]

Thanks for covering it guys. We're glad as heck that people are enjoying it so much.

[@bcmaledragon]

After watching this I can't wait to get my hands on a copy of this game to give it a go. Thanks for explaining this one again Dave you're explanations are amazing as always.

[@popgas3821]

I really love the production value of this game. Just looking at the pots on a top down perspective gives it an almost real, 3D-like look. It's also very simple but with variations that can be challenging. Nice gateway game for anyone interested into board gaming, IMO. Nice video btw! ❤👍

[@B99B99]

I think if someone is leading for so much, the best strategy for other players is to push your luck more, so that even when you busted, you can still buy better stuff with more money.

[@Peejay1966]

Just played this for the first time as a three-player game, and we thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. Great video, as always.

[@aarond.8586]

I played this game for the first time yesterday, and I knew right away I had to get it in my collection. I bought it along with the Herb Witches expansion and all the upgraded pieces on BGG. Thank you, government stimulus check! Edit: I don’t know if anyone has pointed this out yet, but I believe in round 6, Nikki’s second red mushroom chit should also have moved up one space from the pumpkin. She only added an extra space to the first one so all her pieces after and including the second mushroom should have been ahead one more space.

[@FallenRaven]

Dave made the correction during the buy phase.

[@dsko61]

@@FallenRaven But in the 8 round she again missed 1 space, because she had 3 pumpkins and she didnt move mushroom by 2 spaces.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6bNhKt5eLhlg6c

[@emdat1828]

I love this series. I watch it before I play a game (unless spoilers), after I play the game and just to wind down at the end of the day. They help me to understand the game so much more than any tutorial. I know it’s been around for a while but I wonder if you’d do one on viticulture? I have it but haven’t got it to table yet. Thanks all.

[@FloydBarker]

Same!

[@wrany72]

Playing tonight for the first time and I always watch them play first.

[@judiethenerdshelves]

We love this game!!!😍 Gingerman is my favourite recipe component, so powerful!

[@danlewis1885]

17:50 Nikki playing the first round and draws the white 3 to bring her white total to 7 with the only two non-white chips from the bag already on the board. Both Dave and Lincoln say "you can't draw anything" - I don't think that is correct. If she draws another chip she will explode the pot since everything in her bag is white, however she has the option to explode the pot if moving ahead another space gave more purchasing power for ingredients (or moved her to a ruby space) and she wasn't interested in the victory points. There's nothing in the rules that says you have to stop when you have 7 white; Round 1 is the best place to forfeit the victory points (and possibly get a rat tail or two). Later in the game you can have 7 white in the pot and still have 10+ colored chips in the bag you can use to push your luck.

[@schoko-fan4370]

The „Q“ must be hard for you guys 😉 it‘s a very cute Town in Mid-Germany. Cool that you covered this game, we love it and did not have this runaway leader problem so far. Maybe Linc just was very lucky to get that extra chip, but you still have to draw it- it‘s still a push your luck Game - lots of fun 😆

[@iriririririri]

Thank you! This video really helped us to figure out this game :)

[@AldusValor]

Just acquired this one, been waiting for an English version since this video.

[@skitch76cd]

“Go for it. You can do one more”-Mark I’m getting Deep Sea Adventure flashbacks 😄

[@linktothepastmetaldetectin5648]

Nice video, this convinced me to buy the game, so far I've only played two games, one on each side of the player board, the side with the test tubes is definitely better, it's nice to have the choice of which droplet you want to move, and getting rewards for moving the test tubes feels better then just moving one space on the cauldron, the rat tails do that anyway

[@statters]

I don't think it changes anything but in round 8 Nikki should have placed her second toadstool one place further forward because she has 3 pumpkins. I enjoyed this video and it looks like a fun game.

[@mimma99]

Also round 6 Nikki didnt place her second toadstool as far as she could have.

[@babyrne78]

Nikki had trouble counting all the way through the game it seemed.

[@viengneesee]

I love this game. Thanks for sharing!

[@nagredmoonstriker252]

4 potions used during the game. For each of the first three, the re-pull was of the same (or a duplicate) tile - a 1-white. Then they were refilled - two rubies shot for no joy each time - wasted. When Nikki used the last potion of the game to replace a 1-white, she pulled a 3-white to replace it. I never use the potion more than once (no refilling it); the two-ruby cost to replenish it is too high for what you get in return. Remember, by the time your bag gets to the point where you want to use your potion, your bag is already in pretty bad shape. Those of you who think that it was just bad luck on the players' part can explain to me why using a potion turned out badly all four times!

[@improg]

This definitely looks like my kind of game.

[@lynette4119]

Thanks for the great video! It looks fun but seems like it would turn a lot on early luck - if you draw well in the early rounds then you can get ahead, buy better things and move further ahead, rinse and repeat. Nikki seemed to get screwed by her draw in the early rounds and by then it's too late for good bag building to drag you back to the early leader.

[@jpettit29]

36:37 Can someone explain to me why Lincoln's Orange pumpkin pieces are moved forward by 2 spaces instead of 1? Thanks

[@boardgamegeek]

The event card that round was the Pumpkin Patch Party that lets Pumpkins move 2 instead of 1 that round. -Lincoln

[@jpettit29]

@@boardgamegeek Thank you so much! I missed that :) very strong round for you.

[@travissmith1303]

Thanks for the game play. This one felt like it was tough to get through with some tension in the air.

[@TheNamekianClown]

I agree with a lot of the runaway leader concerns, but I also think there's a lot of options for other tactics not used by any of them. They seemed to really under value purple for example. Plus maybe some of those more advanced versions balance the game better and these simpler ones are just to start you off on the game without being complicated at the sacrifice of less balance.

[@GirlyGamer-BoardGameGran]

The art on the little books is AWESOME, looks 3d. It's so so pretty. It is getting an English language release?

[@boardgamegeek]

Yes, North Star Games plans to release this game in North America by the end of October 2018. -WEM

[@crapuchettes]

YES! YES! YES! Our goal is to release it in November. We've got lot's of translating to do...

[@AldusValor]

The English version should be available at retailers nationwide as of about a week or two ago!

[@Haggaarrd21]

36:30 the moment Dave realizes the only people taking this game seriously is himself and Lincoln and that Lincoln is going to win this game by a longshot and there is nothing Dave can do to stop it. 1:32:04 what Nikki really thinks about this game.

[@boardgamegeek]

Ahh, that's not fair. Nikki loves this game and this was played at the end of a long day filming for the Spiel des Jahres nominees. Thanks for the note and for watching. -Lincoln

[@Haggaarrd21]

Just teasing. Watching this playthrough really made me want to get this game! Is it available in the states? Thanks for the response, love the show!

[@boardgamegeek]

North Star Games is releasing this in English as The Quacks of Quedlinburg in November 2018. -WEM

[@Haggaarrd21]

Very VERRRY nice! Hope to see you all at a convention one day! Thanks for the information, looking forward to future videos!

[@nightclyve2857]

Dave pronouncing the title. Me, German, can't stop lauthing for minutes.

[@kenpeters9807]

We just got this as a gift. We are serious gamers… all types of board games. A minor change we made was not limiting the number of chips you can buy. We have a few options on this. With more than two players you need to limit the purchases to different colors or no more than two duplicates colors per turn. Try that - it plays much better. More action = more fun = more opportunities and approaches on a turn by turn basis. BTW the BLUEs are HOT.

[@hschnabel3055]

It’s pronounced Kveddlinbourk 😊 and it’s such a beautiful and quiet town

[@Texy_UK]

@1:03:02 doesn't Nikki place the toadstool incorrectly - it should be 2 spaces after the spider as there are 3 pumpkins in the pot ?

[@blackjack2150]

Interesting choice of player colors for what I assume it the first printing. Mine (published by Schmidt) has the more common yellow, green, red, blue.

[@boardgamegeek]

Yeah, this was the very first Schmidt printing. It was frustrating for sure. -Lincoln

[@meravl7615]

Haven't finished watching yet, but may I just say I love how Nikki drew the "7 white" event...

[@rmsgrey]

Because I love analysing things: In the absence of other effects, adding a pair of 1s to the bag has the same effect on your expected total as adding a single 2 - when it comes to going bust, all that matters is the white chips - before the extra white is added later, you're usually going to bust when you draw the 5th of the 7 white chips (only 3,2,2,1 busts with 4 chips, while 6 white chips will always bust - at least until you get the 5th 1 added, when 2,1,1,1,1,1 is safe), so, on average, you'll draw about 5/8 of the other chips (the 7 white draws divide the other chips into 8 "buckets", of which you can draw the first 5) if you draw until you bust - so you'll draw 5/8 of the total points of those chips, which is the same total no matter how many chips its divided between. On the other hand, if you have the same points across fewer chips, you're going to see more variation in what you draw - to make the modelling easier, suppose you always stopped after your fourth white chip - on average you'd draw half the non-white chips. If you have eight non-white 1 chips, then on average you'd draw four of them for 4 points, which happens 27% of the time, with 3-5 points happening 71% of the time. Getting 0-1 or 7-8 would happen 3.5% of the time each. If you had two non-white 4 chips, then you'd again get 4 points on average, happening 50% of the time, but you have a 25% chance each of getting 0 or 8 points from them. So breaking your chips into smaller pieces gives you a more consistent draw, while combining them into larger chunks gives you a better chance of getting a great (or a terrible) draw. Since you're not always automatically stopping at 4 white chips, but can choose when to push, having more variability is going to be marginally in your favour. Of course, you also need to consider the effects of the chips. While a useful 1 chip and a pumpkin isn't usually going to be better than the equivalent 2 chip, a lot of the time the 2 chip is less than twice as good as the matching 1 chip - for example, the spiders give you more chances of having one among your last two chips played, the more their points are spread across multiple chips. Two blue 1 chips lets you draw the same number of extra chips as a single 2 chip does, but allows you to play both the extras rather than at most one. And so on. Of course, the prices of the chips also reflect that - and the rules prevent you from actually choosing to buy two blue 1s rather than a blue 2 - so it's all a bit more complicated to actually break down - but it's definitely not the case that "diluting the whites" makes buying two 1s better than buying a single 2 - the main difference comes in getting two effects rather than a single, less than twice as powerful, effect.

[@boardgamegeek]

Thanks, that was an interesting read. -Lincoln

[@benmontgomery545]

Haven't finished the video, but I hate the card in the second round in a 4 player game. If I get that game, I would leave that one in the box.

[@benmontgomery545]

Yeah...It really doesn't suprise that this was the outcome of the game. Getting a free ten dollar chip in the second round is just way too much to overcome. Towards the end of the game, that event would work or if Nikki had realized the gravity of that card. In a two player game that would have been okay as you are pushing your luck and pay the penalty, but this put both Mark and Dave at a severe dissadvantage from round two due to another players luck pushing. I would actually be okay with it if everyone got a chip for you busting, but this was an extremely unbalanced event. That said, it was a fun play through and a game that I look forward to being able to try.

[@damaddestgamer]

This one was a bit hard to follow, especially when the cameras weren't concentrating on the boards.

[@yhaerysthethird6088]

Thanks for the playthrough! Makes me wonder if runaway Leaders like Lincoln could ever lose if they are in the lead? Because it seems that if you're lucky in your first few rounds it snowballs you to having better draw power and the less lucky players have almost no chance of catching up? Is that always the case?

[@boardgamegeek]

Oh, you can lose. In another game soon after I was very ahead of the others and my luck turned and I ended up in third place. We still love the game. Thanks for the note and for watching. -Lincoln

[@danlewis1885]

Some play a strategy to fall behind early and advance their drop and get several rat tails to get better starting position in the pot. This can be effective especially in the last round where a huge number of victory points is available if you make it to space 33.

[@shatnershairpiece]

Why is no one using their potions?

[@shagua2]

Blue 2 chip seems extremely powerful, Lincoln kept buying them

[@danlewis1885]

There are four different versions of the ingredient cards and one color may work great in one version while another color may be great in a different version.

[@exodia1510]

6yrs late .. but I been curious of QoQ. I like Press your Luck games

[@oneANGRYelf]

So if you bust on the last round and you choose victory points over spending, you still aren’t allowed to convert your money into victory points? The rules aren’t too clear. I read it as the victory points for money happens after the end of the round and treated it as a separate phase so to speak.

[@danlewis1885]

Correct, you get one or the other.

[@shatnershairpiece]

Okay. Let’s try again. Maybe this one avoids deletion. “Love the music opening! Could be a bit louder though. My ears and heart thank you! Appreciate the response!”

[@xshadowscreamx]

The event cards are in English but the book abilities are in German?

[@abelkok2391]

Hummm.... great video! However, it does give me the Space Base vibes.... are the 2 games similar? Worth getting both games? I mean both Space Base and Quacks. :)

[@seanlewandowski8395]

Different games, space base isn't a push your luck type game. Space base is the bomb though and I would recommend it also if you have the funds and space in your collection

[@sophside9931]

How do you decide which books you’re going to play for that game, and which side of the book?

[@mrshikad]

The books are always the same colors, but they have 4 versions each. 4 levels of complexity if you will. You start using the books with level 1 and as you get familiar with the game you start using the higher levels. When you know the game's ins and outs, the manual recommends just using whatever combinations of levels you think will be fun

[@stevegeorge7773]

I only wish those tokens where round so you could put them in coin capsules. Hand oils are going to quickly degenerate those things.

[@raineyraines]

You can buy those silicone edge protectors specifically for them.. Also, i think a larger token protector/coin capsule will also work :)

[@Xrenegoznaet]

So is the competition in black literally the only interaction between players, other than the cards?

[@boardgamegeek]

You also compete to have the largest total each round so that you receive the bonus die roll, which means you might keep drawing even though you don't want to. In general, though, the game is mostly you doing your own thing, with the threat of being left behind on the score track spurring you on. -WEM

[@Sajatzsiraf]

Lincoln is lucky.

[@jeffradiane]

I keep missing what the orange/pumpkin ingredient does. Can someone share? Thanks.

[@emmajohnston756]

It looks like they simply count for the red chips. If you draw a red and there are 1-2 pumpkins previously on the track, you can place the red one step further. If there are 3 or more pumpkins already placed, you can place it two steps further. Correct me if I'm wrong, that's what it looked like on the video. :)

[@jessehopson8867]

Pumpkins just take up space in your pot. No special power. The Red/Mushroom book 1 that they played with gets a bonus based off the pumpkins as Emma already said.

[@LifeUntilLove]

Sadly, this one wasn't much fun to watch. I'm always rooting for Nikki and the opening was just miserable. Despite the efforts to prevent a runaway leader, this game really suffered from one player having such a strong start. The powerful free chip Lincoln got was obvious, but he also had that black to reward him again and again early. And obviously, it is not Lincoln's fault for being lucky, but knowing who is going to win 20 minutes into the game is not great. Love you guys regardless.

[@danlewis1885]

The "free" chip Lincoln got was caused by a mistake of another player, Nikki should have never blown up her pot knowing what would happen if she did. Lincoln knowing the power of that black chip compared to the other ingredients was simply better game play. When using Tab 1 of the ingredient cards (beginner level) like they were doing, the black is the most powerful color ingredient. Consistently advancing your drop and getting a ruby is huge compared to what you get from the other ingredients. Of course, you have to be lucky to keep drawing black chips every round. Based on how Lincoln corrected Dave on rules errors/oversights, I'd say he had already played the game a few times before the vid.

[@xshadowscreamx]

I know it's supposed to be a family game but I think my parents would be turned off at the fact I might need 10 minutes to explain the game. Which is a lot to them.

[@WardNightstone]

Is this getting a us publiaher and if so under what name?

[@boardgamegeek]

North Star Games plans to release this game in North America by the end of October 2018, but I don't think they've settled on an English name yet. If you go with a straightforward translation, you'd have "The Quacks of Quedlinburg". -WEM

[@crapuchettes]

"The Quacks of Quedlinburg" is indeed the name we have chosen! You can just call it "Quacks" for short. That's what we call it in the office.

[@TheFleahost]

Dynamic Rat Tails!

[@JamieMurphy]

This really put me off the game. It looks like it suffers from a major problem of runaway leader. Lincoln getting the free level 2 early in the game was a major advantage that the others couldn't catch up with. The card itself is ridiculously overpowered but it also serves to exacerbate a problem the game already has.

[@samiamagaimagain]

Jamie Murphy Runaway leader, luckfest. Perfect candidate for the Spiel du Jour, the most overrated board game award!

[@danlewis1885]

Maybe Nikki shouldn't have blown up her pot knowing that Lincoln would get a free 2-chip. Her blunder gave him the advantage he should have never gotten. Things like that help you learn how to play better so there's less likely to be a runaway leader.

[@Vectrex-xd6qi]

3:34 - argh, the editing! Show me what Dave is talking about! ;-)

[@WebMonkey741]

Best lines by American game players @ 1:29:55 : "I know the rat tails thing is... socialism."

[@Jonathan-fw6ty]

They have such a wierd idea of socialism XD "Helping the poorest" isn't socialism my dudes lol

[@danlewis1885]

@@Jonathan-fw6ty The person in last place is not the "poorest". ;-)

[@alexrea123]

This video is more of a hindrance, than help. Surely Dave should have a good grasp of the gameplay before trying to teach others how to play it? As he says, his tutorial is all over the place and he completely gets things wrong, then has to be corrected. Not ideal. To end on a positive, it seems like a lovely playgroup. Lincoln, reminds me of a friend who is the best gamer in our playgroup and instantly "gets" the mechanics of a game engine.

[@danlewis1885]

We watched it before playing and it was a great help. Having two people who know the mechanics and having one correct accidental errors/oversights is a good thing.

[@littlefarmlover]

This game is very monotonous and mostly luck. Ugh

[@danlewis1885]

There is a lot of luck involved in drawing the tiles. HOWEVER, there's also risk/reward management and properly buying ingredients to maximize points, which is not luck.

[@danteshydratshirt2360]

is this the video where Dave weirdly describes the catch up mechanism as socialism?

[@samiamagaimagain]

dante ferno And?

[@danteshydratshirt2360]

because its political and not really socialism

[@FelipeRodrigues-vj1zb]

What a terrible choice of colors for players. They're all a little similar.

[@boardgamegeek]

Felipe, this was the first German printing of the game. They changed the player colors to standard colors in subsequent printings of the game. Thanks for the note and for watching.-Lincoln

[@iriririririri]

Thank you! This video really helped us to figure out this game :)