The Quad Hoop Antenna

[@victoryfirst2878]

Thank you MHTI for giving me an education in TV antennas. I will be busy making and testing your designs and knowhow. But first their is the vacation time Sir. Peace V

[@mrhoptoit7835]

Thank you VF, for the support and all the great questions you always ask. I always look forward to reading your comments. Have a great time on vacation!

[@wesmckean1443]

that's pretty cool. I had made a dual that worked pretty well, but I never got around to making a quad.

[@mrhoptoit7835]

Thanks for watching my channel

[@jonahmoore2941]

How would you rank this compared to your other designs? Great videos!

[@mrhoptoit7835]

Its a very good design, and it gets good signal. I'd rank it just below the more directional antennas for total distance. Thanks for watching.

[@KevinT7274]

Most TV markets also have VHF stations and some even have low VHF stations requiring long dipoles to pull them in. If you added dipoles to the hoop antennas and combined the signals then you'll get the maximum amount of channels for a very low price.

[@mrhoptoit7835]

Yes there are still limited VHF stations. Here's a link to my VHF-hi antenna add which does exactly what you are saying. - kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6KnqKSsmrmCl6c. Here's the link for the VHF-lo antenna - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYiyqIeHhrWoipI. Thanks for watching!

[@Nick23at63]

I appreciate your videos, and I have learned some things. I have a question concerning a Yagi antenna I already have. It works fine, but I was wondering if I could improve it somehow by increasing the length of the aluminum elements already on it. I've heard these things are made with precise measurements, but do you think replacing a 4 foot element with a 6 or 8 foot elements might bring in more channels from further distances? Thanks.

[@mrhoptoit7835]

The element lengths are specific in length as they are tuned to the frequencies you are trying to receive. Increasing the lengths would probably end up reducing your reception. Instead, you can try raising or repositioning the antenna, or maybe adding a good preamp system. Thanks for watching my channel.

[@victoryfirst2878]

MR. HTI, would you be able to tell me how you learned so much about antennas ?? Thank you for your help. Peace V

[@mrhoptoit7835]

I watch KZbin 👍

[@victoryfirst2878]

What would be the best way to make a 8 hoop antenna for extra gain MHTI ?? I will be using 10 gauge copper wire. Thanks v

[@mrhoptoit7835]

Too many elements in many cases, can reduce the antennas performance .

[@victoryfirst2878]

WOULD adding two more antenna hoops to this Quad Hoop Antenna on top of the original desgine make this a ultra deep fringe unit MHTI ? Thanks for your time and help Sir. Peace V

[@mrhoptoit7835]

Hi VF. Interesting idea...

[@victoryfirst2878]

Does the double hoop antenna have a longer distance reception as compared to the quad hoop antenna ?? Would putting a reflector on the quad increase the reception range of does one need to make the quad a OCTAGON type of antenna ?? Thank you for your insight and knowledge of the antenna field MHTI. Peace VN.

[@mrhoptoit7835]

Since the quad hoop is based on the double hoop design, a refector should increase directional performance.

[@victoryfirst2878]

@@mrhoptoit7835 Thank you for the answer Sir.

[@victoryfirst2878]

I am wondering if an antenna that has hoops in front of the hoops actually increase the signal gain of this antenna ?? I like your mindset on antenna improvements Sir. Look forward to your next project for us all to enjoy and use in our own homes.

[@mrhoptoit7835]

I've seen antennas that use hoops as directors, but not for TV reception. Interesting idea as always, VF

[@victoryfirst2878]

@@mrhoptoit7835 I Look forward to seeing what you have up your sleeve Sir. Good day too. v

[@AL_9000]

Telesine Antenna Corp. of Shreveport, LA. UHF 2-element loop = 6dB gain, 4-element loop (upper + lower pairs) = 9 dB, 8-element loop (upper + lower + upper right + lower right pairs) = 15 dB gain. VHF High + Low antennas models 4-8/8-8, 5-8/8-8, and 6-8/8-8 with a "stated" power gain of 40 (dB ??) into a single 300 ohm line when set up as an 8-element system like the UHF series. The VHF 8-element system is MASSIVE. Ham radio operators sometimes use cubical quad beams which are square loops: If just using a single driven loop the gain is 2 dB over a dipole, if you add a reflector loop behind it then it has 5 dB gain, if you add a director to that then it's 7 dB, every additional director adds only about 1 dB. Telesine Antenna Corp. went out of business long ago. The Telesine antenna patent was filed on March 13, 1950, patent number: SW 149353.

[@AL_9000]

Correction: Patent filed on March 13, 1950 but approved on October 27, 1953 with patent #2,657,313 "Directional Antenna System" William E. Antony, Inventor. Document US-2657313-A. 7 pages.

[@mrhoptoit7835]

@@AL_9000 interesting

[@victoryfirst2878]

WOULD the four hoop antenna increase the signal if I made another one on top of the first one Sir ?? How far would I need to space the antennas apart MHTI ?? If i choose to use a reflector the distance would be 4 and 1/2 inch spacing ??Thanks vf

[@mrhoptoit7835]

VF, you can try that. Id try spacing at least 12" apart. Keep the leads from each antenna the exact same length. 4 to 4.5 inch spacing for a reflector should work.

[@victoryfirst2878]

​@@mrhoptoit7835 Thank you Sir for the information.....

[@Tallpawl1]

Have you ever made a DB4, DB8, or DB16 bow tie antenna? I was wondering how they would compare to the quad hoop.

[@mrhoptoit7835]

I have not made those so I can't really comment on any similarities or differences.

[@undieatiakpananiah-kg8hr]

Is the antenna working with a customized DTH/dtv device? Or is it working with a UHF/VHS TV RECEIVER?

[@mrhoptoit7835]

The Ematic receiver is a popular TV receiver I bought two of them at Walmart a couple of years ago. I'm using it in my tests because its signal strength meter is accurate and displays in percentages. My Onn tv only has a four bar signal display. Thanks for the great question.

[@victoryfirst2878]

I am wondering if this antenna is the most powerful unit you have built so far ?? DO you think using a reflector would increase the number of stations this antenna would be able to receive ?? Thank you for your help and time Sir. Peace V

[@mrhoptoit7835]

Hi VF. It is definitely one of my highest gain antennas. Adding reflectors could help you get weaker signals from a more focused direction.

[@victoryfirst2878]

@@mrhoptoit7835 Does this have a 135 degree field of view SIR ?

[@mrhoptoit7835]

Without a reflector, it will receive signals from both front and rear directions. If you install a reflector, I'd think youd be close to 135 degrees

[@victoryfirst2878]

@@mrhoptoit7835 Could you tell roughly how many actual degrees of reception ?? Thanks MHTI

[@bobbysalinas4845]

Great video Mr. Hop to it! That's actually a lot of work involved but if you need an antenna on steroids well this is it! lol

[@mrhoptoit7835]

Thanks!

[@debojitacharjee]

Having multiple loops doesn't make any sense. Do you know the formula to build a loop antenna for AM radio?

[@mrhoptoit7835]

Many commercially designed loop style antennas have multiple loops. Thanks for watching my channel.

[@debojitacharjee]

@@mrhoptoit7835 You are showing how to construct antennas but NOT providing any formula to build it. I need to know how to build a loop antenna for AM reception.

[@mrhoptoit7835]

My channel is for "How To", not Educational, and the vast majority of my viewers are non-technical. If you want more technical information, there are a lot of channels on KZbin that can help you. I watch many of them myself. I appreciate your question, but I am a hobbyist that designs TV antennas, and I'm not the best qualified for AM.

[@debojitacharjee]

@@mrhoptoit7835 Can you show a video on Dxing DVB-T reception? Is it possible to receive DVB-T channels of other countries using any antenna?

[@mrhoptoit7835]

As I'm sure you know, DVB-T is not a standard for broadcasting here in the US. Still, it transmits in the UHF band, and my antennas should work to receive it. I've had many comments from people in other countries telling me they have built my antennas and they get good reception. As with all UHF signals, transmission is limited by terrestrial interference and signal strength limitations, so trying to pull in distant stations will always be difficult if not impossible. If you want to receive out of area TV, you'll probably have to invest in DVB-S equipment for satellite reception.

[@jimne1]

Very Professional.

[@mrhoptoit7835]

Thank you, that's truly appreciated. Thanks for watching my channel!

[@victoryfirst2878]

Here is an idea for the viewers of getting copper wire for FREE !!! Ask the local power company work crew for some wire. "They say be careful what you wise for" as the man gave me a wound ring about 20 plus feet of number 6 solid bare copper wire, extra soft. Perfect for this type of TENNA. Hope this helps our viewers make antennas on the cheap, but with best building material. Peace v.

[@mrhoptoit7835]

Wow. That was very generous of them! Good deal!

[@victoryfirst2878]

@@mrhoptoit7835 The gentleman who I asked said at first "NOTHING IS FREE" then handed me the wire. Then he said good luck and wanted to see the antenna I will be making. Also, he said that to remember him if I need more material for the project too. This has to be the best luck day for me in quite a while. Peace MHTI, v

[@mrhoptoit7835]

Very cool, VF!