"Now that is a name fit for a King" - Viserys I Targaryen
@lukedevilux54479 ай бұрын
A great forshadowing
@vibechecker31689 ай бұрын
Viserys "The only sane man in the room" Targaryen.
@ivandankob71129 ай бұрын
The sane men who allowed the kickstarting a worthless war with Dourne and raising an imbecile son to rule the kingdom? Yeah, right :D
@Prodigi506 ай бұрын
His brother Aegon was pretty sane. That’s why he was so depressed.
@archmaester65949 ай бұрын
My personal headcanon was that Viserys knew what a monster Aegon would become and was going to disinherit him and then raise his grandson, Daeron, as his heir.... With a stroke of a pen, Aegon would have lost all his wealth and privilege, so he murdered his father. He was half-Lyseni. It is possible he was aware and had the means to purchase the Tears of Lys. This may be the true source of animosity between Aegon IV and his own son Daeron. The heir his father truly wanted. Not to mention, as king, Aegon IV was free to do as he pleases... as a prince he had to keep his mistresses a secret from both Baelor and then his father. He had to 'give up' Merry Meg and their children on Viserys's orders. As King he could do all he wanted without repercussion and his duties would be delegated to Hands who have pretty daughters...
@felipebattisti85079 ай бұрын
This actually makes a lot of sense.
@elijahalbiston9 ай бұрын
Looking forward to a Fire and Blood 2 so theories like this can be confirmed or at least speculated upon further. Never heard of this one but it sounds likely, and it’d really add to Aegon being the worst King.
@mathieuleroux99129 ай бұрын
Your hypothesis would probable make much sense, in my humble opinion.
@Isuream63319 ай бұрын
It makes sense, especially given that Viserys entirely had the legal power and support to do so. If Aegon got stuck in a civil war for his succession, I doubt many would support him
@ravenwood18658 ай бұрын
totally makes sense. what would the realm be like if dearon had been king right away instead of his father. great that's what. also in 170 dearon had his first son bealor so when viserys becomes king he already as a great grand son to follow dearon. which points out another factor why didn't aegon secertly kill his son dearon and mabye my deamon his hier right then. the answer is dearon kept having sons who had sons of thier own which sir duncan once says that dearon's son secured house taragreyan for all time. a century at least.
@annieandelsieofarendelle32949 ай бұрын
I'll never forgive him for forcing Naerys to marry Aegon because out of all the women in Westeros, he chose his sickly, fragile daughter to marry her bullish, abusive older brother.
@Lionstar169 ай бұрын
Agreed - Naerys would have been better suited to the life of a septa, and given her piety it would have made her happy to become one.
@annieandelsieofarendelle32949 ай бұрын
@@Lionstar16 And Viserys could've married Aegon to literally anyone else. It would honestly be better if he did since House Targaryen needed allies through blood and he wasn't in line for the throne yet.
@AmericanImperium17769 ай бұрын
Vizzy T II really just be cleaning up the messes of his nephews. Love this series, can't wait for the next episode.
@QuinnTheGM9 ай бұрын
Ah, the best king and subject of my first ASOIAF video. Great work!
@greatstationsyt6 ай бұрын
Viseryses just shouldn’t be allowed to raise Aegons
@paulsteaven4 ай бұрын
Thanks to Khal Drogo, we didn't get an insane Vizzy III.
@thalmoragent93449 ай бұрын
Viserys II was goated. Only problem was keeping Aegon IV as his heir over time when he kept on getting worse. Aside from that, a solid Hand and a capable King, with few faults. That said, on a side note... unpopular opinion; I feel people give Daeron the Young Dragon too much hate. Not only was he very promising as a young king, it was said he and his uncle would've been a decent pair while Daeron was still around. I truly think it was a shame he died so young, and he and Daena would've been quite the power couple. Would've solved so many problems going forward tbh.
@Rachael3089 ай бұрын
I’m happy Viserys II is getting some of the limelight he deserves 😊
@FalseSleepwalker9 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the next video about Aegon The Unworthy. He really is the biggest troll in westeros.
@GaryMcSnail9 ай бұрын
Problematic marriages involving an older woman was not the equality I was striving for
@dyscalculic9 ай бұрын
Viserys II is underrated, considering he tried to keep the cap on his two predecessors. His only sin really is Aegon IV which I don't think he had much control of.
@jonaslillelid56219 ай бұрын
Loving this series very much, keep up the great work
@CrusaderChris9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@davidtonner54939 ай бұрын
KZbin’s King of Love and Beauty once again earns his crown. Great video!
@inquisitorgarza3129 ай бұрын
Viserys II was a great administer and perhaps he was a very great example of how this man could have made the realm better he is also example that great kings sometimes do not create great heirs.
@Edmonton-of2ec2 ай бұрын
8:58 This probably means that Viserys slashed court expenditures. So less finery, tourneys, banquets and reform of the management of estates owned by the crown. Basically Viserys was making sure that the monarchy spent the money it dispensed with on self-management more efficiently, and more wisely
@billychops12809 ай бұрын
I wish Viserys “III” was like this guy, the main series would have been way more straightforward
@Cbutton9 ай бұрын
Viserys III Grew up as a beggar on the streets with the weight of the Targaryen name on his back as a child while taking care of his young sister. He wasn’t a great guy by any stretch of the imagination. But he’s not as bad as people make him out to be.
@billychops12809 ай бұрын
@@Cbutton oh no I completely agree, in fact I like him very much despite his faults. And yeah I understand that he was basically dodging assassins all his life even if they weren’t actually sent by Robert Baratheon at the time, he was still smart enough to realize that they always had a target on their backs
@Cbutton9 ай бұрын
@@billychops1280 exactly man! He’s so much more complex than people give him credit for, the anxiety anyone would have in that situation would drive anyone mad imo
@elijahalbiston9 ай бұрын
Honestly if he’d had even one member of the Kingsguard by his side from the beginning then I could really see him growing up to be a better man. A real example of chivalry and stories of Kingship beside little Vis as he grew. Honestly Targaryen strategy sucked. They went from winning not just with dragons but on the battlefield, taking Six kingdoms… to losing even when they had the advantage. I can understand the Mad King messing up but Rhaegar was an absolute fool during that time. Imagine if the Kingsguard were used to their full potential and spread out to protect the heirs to the Iron Throne. Instead Jon, Elia Martell and her children, the Mad King, and Rhaegar himself were all killed and Viserys and Dany went into exile. Daemon and others would be so disappointed in their offspring bro
@billychops12809 ай бұрын
@@elijahalbiston Rhaegar was dumb to run away at a time of turmoil yes, but the mad king was supremely at fault he alienating his allies, causing even the reach to keep their distance, and yes Barristan thought if going to Viserys but decided against it cuz he was a little kid and seemed like Aerys
@felipebattisti85079 ай бұрын
This dude is the main reason i want fire and blood 2
@DasBoot03z6 ай бұрын
Anytime there’s a even like a slight mention of Aegon IV I legitimately get chills because of how much of a monster he is🤢
@Lionstar169 ай бұрын
Am taking a guess here, but Viserys 'reforms of the royal household and its functions' might be that he got rid of jobs that were not relevance anymore, reduced household expenses - basically he's trying to make the royal household more cost effective.
@BehuraStudio9 ай бұрын
[Quinn the GM Liked This Video] Viserys 2 is pretty awesome tho, shout outs
@DahomeyBkzoe7 ай бұрын
I wish Visaerys 2 had a cool nickname. His brother had a name all his sons had a name , his father had a nickname and so did all his nephews and one of his nieces even his grandson and three of his four grandsons why doesn’t he
@AesirUnlimited5 ай бұрын
King Vizzy T2
@Hellsing77479 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the next video !
@Nclumbee45 ай бұрын
You are my favorite! Your content is entertaining, your commentary is amazing because you don't have to be so extra or animated, if that makes sense. Appreciate you!
@LucerysOwner9 ай бұрын
Vizzy T. the man, the myth, the legend.! The best hand of king in history and also one the top 4 Targaryen kings
@bonbonvegabon8 ай бұрын
Great video man. Love your channel.
@KTA1sVidsandFacts2 ай бұрын
I’m fairly certain that Vizzy T II disinherited Aegon IV in a similar manner that Vizzy T I disinherited his brother Daemon and telling him that his son Daeron would be next in line. Scolding him on his follies and being a downright disappointment. However, unlike Daemon who loved his Vizzy, Aegon did not hold his father to that same level and feared losing his privileges of being a Targ prince (he didn’t have a Dragon like Daemon did, so he would be even more ostracized and forced out). Therefore he murdered his father before he could announce to the court that Daeron would be his heir. Aegon’s bitterness that his father chose his grandson over his own son is just another reason why he really did not like Daeron.
@deathstar6029 ай бұрын
Finally early for one these videos
@limbobilbo87432 ай бұрын
4:55 ok that meme made me burst out laughing for a solid minute
@jarredwilkinson46669 ай бұрын
I think the maester killed him seeing that he would be a shrewd king and saw a way to put Aegon IV who they could more easily manipulate the Iron Throne. Those grey rats are dangerous!
@sleepyguy2369 ай бұрын
nah both septons and maesters despite Aegon IV a lot mainly because of his intentional misrule during his reign(based on the in-universe book Lives of Four Kings, Grandmaester Kaeth bashed him a lot for example, Kaeth suggested that rumors about Crown prince Daeron’s parentage were likely start by the Aegon IV himself because their disagreement in dorne’s policy and in his last years the septons literally pronounced it a judgment of the gods when he’s rotten alive)
@jarredwilkinson46669 ай бұрын
I still see an inner Cabal at the Citadel as behind the death and knew they could via proxies control Aegon IV far better than his father. They would kkk no ow how to play to his ego as well. Once Daemon I Blackfyre was born they would have nudged Aegon IV favoring no if that son over Daeron and I believe might have whispered to him to legitimate all his bastard knowing with time this could be used to spark a rebellion that would weaken House Targaryen more. Part of a reason why I hope after Dance Saga in House we get the Bloodraven Saga
@jazzycat89178 ай бұрын
Frankly I think Vizzy 2: Electric Boogaloo was just aged prematurely by all the bullshit he had to put up with in life and the stress of it all weakened his health so yeah, he up n died of illness.
@Myne10014 ай бұрын
Viserys II is the Kaiser Frederick III of Westeros; a seemingly capable leader who could've brought great change if he didn't die so quickly, only to be followed by a troublesome leader who played a role in the downfall of their dynasty.
@Bush3sh9 ай бұрын
can’t wait for Joffrey the Just’s episode
@SoranotRoxas9 ай бұрын
*I've been looking forward to this..*
@sharada55505 ай бұрын
This guy has personal beef with viserys 1😂😂
@erickonami19 ай бұрын
Viserys 2 is my favorite king. Very underrated
@AlfredoPuente84 ай бұрын
If amazing he is the only character that connects the Dance of the Dragons with the Blckfyre Rebellions.
@aarondemiri4869 ай бұрын
Hope that you rank them all when it is complete
@jeffsan0.58 ай бұрын
2:55 is that Lord Kermit Tully😂
@officialyoungmari9 ай бұрын
i think if they continue on w hotd after the dance the main perspective should 100% be viserys ii
@sleepyguy2369 ай бұрын
💯 he really has that main character energy in f&b book ngl
@officialyoungmari9 ай бұрын
@@sleepyguy236 prob the most interesting character to me. his life rly was one big “wtf is happening”
@officialyoungmari5 ай бұрын
@@badyoutuber1986 yea but im talking the main pov like from him being a hostage all the way until hes kings
@figuringitout7965 ай бұрын
@officialyoungmari that would be very interesting but I kind of get the feeling that as an overlooked king along with the probable trauma Viserys himself would be reluctant to talk about it hence the maesters wouldn't really know what happened during that time...I mean...isn't Fire and Blood supposed to be written like a history book written by biased maesters who were generally anti-Targaryen
@sahilhossian82127 ай бұрын
Lore of The One-Year Reign of Viserys Targaryen momentum 100
@rakeenakiel30386 ай бұрын
You had a spoiler for hotd man in the who poisoned who section man :(
@Hellsing77479 ай бұрын
That king is hilarious 😂 We need an adaptation of his reign.
@fire16556 ай бұрын
There’s no doubt in my mind that someone shady poisoned him. I honestly believe that Aegon wouldn’t have given to cares in the world. Probably Lord Bracken of the time, I think it is Quinn the GM who mentions how members of this house just always seem to be causing problems. it would definitely fall in line with them continually screwing things up for the realm. And considering he was in court that whole time since his daughter was there with the maidenvault sisters I get the feeling that he was just waiting for Baelor to pull a Baelor and die(there might be some theories out there, but there’s also something in the back of my mind that says he could’ve poisoned him as well, but that would’ve been risky poisoning two kings back to back so I believe that the zealot idiot just started himself to death on accident) or pissed off the wrong guy and started a holy war. he might’ve even been part of the council since the time of Daeron l. I feel like with the second book we will get a much better idea of who was around at the time and that will tell us exactly who could and could not have done it.
@caesar0frome9509 ай бұрын
He still rule for twice as long as his mother
@scottanthonyweidner86929 ай бұрын
Re: conspiracy theory: cherchez the Hightowers and the Maesters.
@cipher489 ай бұрын
One thing I don't unferstand is why did Viserys II passed over his niece Daena in the Iron Throne succession. He is closer in the line because of his mother's claim. If no woman can be the regnant monarch, then clearly Rhaenyra's line would be ignored in favor of another one; Velaryon or even Hightower, who ended up marrying Daemon's daughters
@sleepyguy2369 ай бұрын
Thing is, aegon iii’s claim is actually come from his half uncle, aegon ii. so, he’s “legally” heir of him not rhaenyra although appendix refer him as rhaenyra’s son and viserys ii also once his brother’s heir when aegon iii doesn’t have any children. Another point is, he’s eldest member of house Targaryen at that time and very experienced, have tons of alliances while daena lacked this due to maidenvault stuffs, this is likely the reason why small council choose viserys ii to be their new king.
@cipher489 ай бұрын
@@sleepyguy236 was it the Small Council who chose him? I always thought he became king out of his own initiative. Now, that's nothing against Viserys II, but didn't Cersei and Tyrion think that Myrcella is in the line of succession and now is Tommen's heir? Because if that is so, then this law of succession is messy as hell
@CrusaderChris9 ай бұрын
Doesn’t do much good trying to apply that strict a logic to it. Westerosi succession is meant to fit the story, not any stringent inheritance laws. Viserys was king because Baelor and Daeron had no children, because Daena and her sisters were not considered fit to rule, and because he’d already ruled (and produced heirs) for over a decade. Things like one person’s “line” being discontinued from the succession forever isn’t really gonna happen in ASOIAF. For example, Aerys was deposed by Robert, yet people still saw Viserys/Dany as rightful rulers. Aerys disinherited Rhaegar in favor of Viserys, but Aegon will still use his claim over Dany’s in TWOW.
@badyoutuber19865 ай бұрын
@@sleepyguy236correct.Aegon three is king because he is the closest male relative to Aegon2.He didn't inherit becouse of Rheanyra.
@brig.badger28969 ай бұрын
My favorite king in ASOIAF.
@dhruv97449 ай бұрын
We don't know enough about Viserys II, I think you should remake this video after Fire and Blood Volume 2 comes out.
@CrusaderChris9 ай бұрын
Yeah I’ll have to do that for all the post-Dance Targaryens, but I highly doubt Fire & Blood 2 is happening.
@dhruv97449 ай бұрын
@@CrusaderChris 😭
@Prodigi506 ай бұрын
@@CrusaderChris What makes you say that?
@dhruv97444 ай бұрын
@@Prodigi50 The last decade is self evident with GRRM's writing speed.
@z_60775 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why Viserys let Daeron I start a new war with Dorne..
@badyoutuber19865 ай бұрын
His the king and if there is discours on the council the rhealm will see it as an opportunity for there own advantage.And the hand backs the king to keep the rhealm stable.
@powderedwiglouis12389 ай бұрын
Maegor did nothing wrong
@tellemonhigh46349 ай бұрын
Uh no he did some foul shit towards the end let’s not forget that
@MAB-External-TC-Lover9 ай бұрын
Nah if you look at the text everyone was agaist him due to the mastors and high towers and faith planning agaist the Targeryens producing flase stories about him and exeggerating it, LITERLY everyone betrayed him other then his own mother, he's also the only reason why the Tagaryens survided and thrived after his death leading to King Jaheries the Wise to rule over all of Westeros to prosper, It easy to rule over a nation that already fears what yoy may become if you treat them incorrectly, There a video that goes into detail about all this, also the main series meastors even said the meastors of the past most likely exagerated Meagors crulty. RIP he was a gokd king 😢
@powderedwiglouis12389 ай бұрын
@@tellemonhigh4634 relatively speaking besides the double kinslaying
@Lalvon_Zelpharr9 ай бұрын
Maegor the Chad
@wagiecagie9 ай бұрын
@@tellemonhigh4634cry harder, beta peasant 😢
@philipglover32956 ай бұрын
I feel a bit sorry for Viserys he spent 15 years trying to clean up the messes made by his idiot nephews then his idiot son became King
@badyoutuber19865 ай бұрын
And his idiotic mother and Uncles and grandfather.
@johnreydelatorre34509 ай бұрын
Wait, did Lorra love Viserys but was unhappy with Kings Landing? Or was unhappy to both?
@badyoutuber19865 ай бұрын
Who cares.She just didn't like kings landing.
@davidbadillomirete82269 ай бұрын
Maybe Viserys wanted to disinherit Aegon
@RinzlerX1229 ай бұрын
That's my guess. I picture it as basically a Gladiator style murder. Commodus learned his father meant to pass him up as Emperor for Maximus, so he smothered him so he couldn't make it official. I could 100% see that being the case with Aegon IV, who Viserys clearly didn't want to be his heir, if he knew how bad he was already
@jueljohnson419 ай бұрын
I honestly think that the fandom overrates him at this point. He was a great Hand, but no he wasn't responsible for every success of his brother and nephews' reign.
@badyoutuber19865 ай бұрын
The early day's of Aegon three should be five given to Tyland Lannister The middle Aegon himself and the end to Vesery.
@jueljohnson415 ай бұрын
@@badyoutuber1986strongly agree on that
@Argos-xb8ek9 ай бұрын
Im conflicted with Viserys II I feel he was the one king who couldve done alot more than he did.
@CapitanaSheep8 ай бұрын
2:55 "Sheesh" lmaooo 🤣
@ChickensVentura9 ай бұрын
Best king of all time.
@angryyoungman669 ай бұрын
When are you gonna react to the new trailers , I hope you're team green 💚🤣
@sleepyguy2369 ай бұрын
He’s team smallfolk tho(team neutral)
@angryyoungman669 ай бұрын
@@sleepyguy236 😂😂 where's the fun in being neutral ? jk have a nice day
@angryyoungman669 ай бұрын
@@sleepyguy236 Check m y stuff
@King_Steffon_II9 ай бұрын
Maegor the Great will always be my favorite 🤩
@melaniedominick93944 ай бұрын
the maesters did it!
@malcolmferguson48698 ай бұрын
The James Garfield of Westeros.
@SirBolsón6 ай бұрын
2:57
@ghostlyjudge5 ай бұрын
didnt daeron die of pox
@alfieingrouille15289 ай бұрын
Top 5 best king for sure
@alfieingrouille15289 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@tristanbaptiste76925 ай бұрын
All Viserys have terrible sons
@jmpabd8725 ай бұрын
Aemon wasn't terrible
@Fetltox956 ай бұрын
Maegor was a better king than Baylor Period
@badyoutuber19865 ай бұрын
🤔.
@justinsantiago6386 ай бұрын
The gay abandon😂😂😂😂
@displacerkatsidhe6 ай бұрын
Once again Tyrion and his facts being wrong lol. Viserys II was definitely hand of the king longer than 15 years. So lets take The World of Ice and Fire at it's word, Viserys only being Hand for the second half of Aegon III's reign. So 144 AC. He's like 21/22 years old. When Aegon dies of a chill at 36 in 157 AC, he's already been Hand of the King for 14 years. Under Daeron I, he's hand for another 4 years, then for Baelor, another 10. 28 years of basically being king in all but name, ruling for his detatched brother, war mongering nephew, and delusional nephew. He should have absolutely disinherited Aegon IV though. Hands down.
@johnsimonritchieA9 ай бұрын
❤
@sebastianpinoalipaz59359 ай бұрын
Growing up is realizing that even if Viserys poisoned Baelor that would've only made him an even better king
@CrusaderChris9 ай бұрын
Kinslaying is cool if the kin is Baelor the Blessed
@Prometeu219 ай бұрын
@@CrusaderChris And if the kin is Aegon IV This post was made by the Aemon the Dragonknight gang
@alexx59929 ай бұрын
That makes no sense, Baelor was a great king and one of the reasons the Targaryen lasted so mucho after the Dance and the Dorne fiasco