The race to phase out Europe’s biggest coal-fired power plant

[@jimfarmer7811]

You can't shut down the fossil fuel plants until you have a substitute source of electricity. That's the simple reality of the world we live in.

[@vorpalinferno9711]

Build nuclear. Whats wrong? you hate nuclear because you are emotionally scared of non existent safety issues ? Stop being a hypocrite. There are alternatives. If you dont pick them because of your irrational delusion you are beyond help.

[@jimfarmer7811]

What part of my comment made you think I was against nuclear energy?

[@vorpalinferno9711]

@@jimfarmer7811 Even if you are a pro nuclear rational person the fearmongering and campaigning done by the dumb opposition have done their damage.

[@jimfarmer7811]

@@vorpalinferno9711 That was kinda my point.

[@waelfaraj6705]

Some coal plants are getting more efficient and cleaner with lower emissions . There are smart grids also that can combine many alternative energy resources more efficiently ...( hybrid systems like solar , wind , geothermal hydroelectric or biofuels combined together ...)

[@sorryi6685]

This aged nicely

[@sidewindersid4180]

Coal or nuclear, they're your options at the moment folks, simple, end of.

[@Gurci28]

September 1, 2014 Can bioenergy replace coal? Europe wants 27 percent of its energy to come from renewable sources by 2030. Bioenergy has the potential to help the continent reach that goal, but it requires an industry comeback. Source: McKinsey & Company

[@adorabasilwinterpock6035]

Renewable💚

[@jacobsukovaty520]

​@@adorabasilwinterpock6035 renewable are unreliable and not green at all

[@fredricc5771]

Nuclear is the answer..

[@jamessmith84240]

Currently, solar and wind don't make enough power even when supported by coal and nuclear. This is in 2021 when 96% of cars on the roads are still using petrol and diesel. Now, imagine the shortfall of electricity if 100% of cars on the road were electric and in need of daily charging... This has not been though through and no one is pointing it out.

[@bluemoondiadochi]

screw "enough", also as important is that they dont deliver it when needed. that's a true bottleneck of such energy sources. and i wont even go into disposal issues...

[@rajashashankgutta4334]

You do get the fact that electric vehicles can serve as an energy storage and thus make renewables more efficient.

[@jamessmith84240]

@@rajashashankgutta4334 You can't store what you don't have. You do get that fact right?

[@N0Xa880iUL]

​@@rajashashankgutta4334 Yes, and certainly doable for rich western countries. But it will take time. Atleast 2030.

[@rajashashankgutta4334]

@@jamessmith84240 yes and renewable s are intermittent sources of power

[@sbrown314]

As we all know, Johnson will say anything that suits the moment. Even if it means lying to children.

[@bruceseaman6592]

More nuclear

[@Lucas-wn5wm]

2021 royal dutch shell moved to UK due to carbon emission concerns 2022 Europe burning coal.

[@Stephen-gn2br]

When the rest of Europe run out of Gas, but Poland can still keep the lights on - they’re visionaries.

[@katzzattack1102]

Guess they are really regretting that decision right now.

[@stoatmuldoon3131]

Well this story took an interesting turn.

[@drtiger1834]

How?

[@stoatmuldoon3131]

@@drtiger1834 "Running out of options, Germany and several of its European neighbours are turning back to coal power plants" "Coal burning quality standards temporarily suspended in Poland" "Poles told to gather firewood amid soaring energy prices" Like that.

[@MarshallMathersthe7th]

We should never ever want to shut down these beautiful coal plants! They are so beautiful, i wish i could look at them everyday in real life. They symbolize freedom to me.

[@F-15eagle]

but they're harmful to environment

[@robbielawson4828]

I sometimes drive home from work past a big coal station in England 'Fiddlers Ferry'. It was shut down about 2 years ago. It's such a, shame to see it idle, doing nothing given the predicament we now find ourselves in.

[@HOHLfmly]

don’t tear down the building that houses all the connections to the power grid. If you tear it down with permits and loss of time, three years would be $13 million. Clear the rest of the property for solar and wind turbines build a battery backup station in your can hook right up to the grid probably three years

[@captainmarcin6105]

We shouldn't close any of our coal power plants until Germany closes all of theirs.

[@zetor425]

F the green peace 🤣

[@UQRXD]

As machinery and automation go on more power will be need. People eat food and work to produce. Machines need electricity and don't pay taxes.

[@philgazz7273]

Lot of steam there - do they know that CO2 is invisible?

[@rfonsxox2]

Exactly!!!!!

[@mazdamaniac4643]

Yep. Many of these eco-video's rave about the 'pollution' being thrown out by these chimneys, even when most of them are just cooling towers wafting away water vapour. Even with the flue chimneys, the 'pollution' is almost totally waste steam from the wet scrubbers, which clean the particles out of the flue gas and neutralise any corrosive nasties, which is why it isn't filthy black smoke. Of course, they don't want people to know that inconvenient truth, so it's all branded as dirty nasty pollution to suit their narrative.

[@muhammadabyzard7970]

Nope. I've talked to a Romanian acquaintance of mine and he said no.

[@robcorrente6065]

Pay them 5 nuclears and then maybe, until that KEEP ON POLAND

[@bagofdoom7693]

Would love a follow up

[@Gurci28]

Coal is classified as a nonrenewable energy source because it takes millions of years to form. Coal contains the energy stored by plants that lived hundreds of millions of years ago in swampy forests. 3:00 Environmental impacts associated with using coal as an energy source are particulate emission, ground level ozone, smog and acid rain. Coal and fuel oil combustion emit fly ash particles into the atmosphere, which contribute to air pollution problems. Sources: EIA; WWF

[@sandercohen9712]

Seems to me that with proper filtration systems coal can still be a fairly decent source of energy, without causing massive damage to the environment. Sun and wind power are basically non-factors, especially considering the resources invested into those energy sources and the difficulty of disposing of wind turbines, especially the rotors. Nuclear power might do the trick, but there have been very little innovations in that area for the last couple of decades. CO2 is a non-issue, given that most of the CO2 is produced by the ocean and volcanoes and CO2 emissions tends to follow a rise in temperature and not the other way around (i.e. it is caused by our sun - including its activity and solar winds, rather than by humans producing CO2 and trapping the heat)

[@bluemoondiadochi]

Coal plants DO have extensive filtration systems, to the point that most pollution is mitigated before it leaves the chimney. but you can bet that wont stop the ideologues.

[@rajashashankgutta4334]

@@bluemoondiadochi what about climate change?

[@bluemoondiadochi]

@@rajashashankgutta4334 without reliable energy, this topic will be about as important as it is currently in Sri Lanka.

[@N0Xa880iUL]

Yeah carbon sequestration at source is big.

[@rajashashankgutta4334]

Renewable sources if planned properly are reliable

[@kirikou-theo6401]

Nice 👌

[@waelfaraj6705]

Coal plants are getting more efficient and renewables can expand as well to be environmentally friendly...

[@HOHLfmly]

Clear the rest of the property for solar and wind turbines build a battery backup station then you can hook right up to the grid probably three years

[@patrickmccutcheon9361]

Will closing this plant real make any difference as long as the US and China continue burning hydrocarbons? To phase out hydrocarbons needs massive ramping up of the roll out of solar and wind power and removal of disincentives put in place by energy companies (who do not want to see renewables other than their own on the market) to consumers to install solar panels.

[@steveknott4255]

yes next stupid question

[@jackwills7092]

solar panels don't work at night their's a surprise battery's don't store electricity they produce it if anyone can store electricity I will give them the Nobel peace prize

[@timothypopik2288]

Solar and wind will never supplant hydrocarbons - get real

[@SouthernBelleACe]

Explain how a country will no baseload power plants survive with more and junk electric vehicles showing up!

[@AzurvTies]

City skylines players: "You have seen nothing..." *Proceeds to place 100 coal and oil factory's*

[@robbielawson4828]

Yea OK.... Meanwhile in China & India, they're building 300 of them🙄

[@N0Xa880iUL]

Look at the emissions per capita. Also you should compare the whole of EU to India for size and population.

[@captainmarcin6105]

@@N0Xa880iUL What is the point of comparing emissions per capita? EU population is less than 500 million, while China + India is 2.7 million. It means that no matter what sacrifice we make, it won't have any effects on the global climate because most of the world doesn't care. It's simply a waste of money.

[@N0Xa880iUL]

@@captainmarcin6105 It's called leading by example

[@RK-jc8oe]

Existential threat 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@jackwills7092]

got no coal from ussr now so whats mr green peace going to say now

[@surreyscouse2873]

Don't be stupid like the UK and do Net Zero at 1,000 KPH.

[@dylbeentheplotagonistandra2811]

How about they follow North Carolina, Georgia, and Tennessee’s model which is replacing all of the existing coal plants with combined cycle natural gas ones and even some nuclear. This method has worked very well. Coal is no longer the majority in any of these states, it’s natural gas in Georgia, nuclear in Tennessee, and the amount produced from natural gas and nuclear in North Carolina is almost equivalent to each. North Carolina and Tennessee are on track to phase out coal entirely by 2035(and NC expects to replace their largest coal plant with a nuclear plant at that time) and it might happen a lot sooner in Georgia as there are only 2 operational coal plants left and both are 40-50 years old now

[@Mike-jj2qf]

How about we don’t.

[@stubinski268]

No

[@Fishcakebuttie]

Maybe but it certainly can’t give up oil

[@Mr-DNA_]

Coal is a lot harder to give up than oil. Oil is almost exclusively used for cars. All newly sold cars will be electric by 2030.

[@allancopland1768]

You may want to do a vlog on China where coal is king, producing consumer goods for the greedy western World.

[@billbonu1639]

Uuuhhh it's not that complicated to boil water these days.they have these huge microwaves now where you could just add a turbine dedicated to making power to run the microwave that boils the water to make the power that runs the microwave that boils the water that makes the power to run the microwave that boils the water... that runs all the turbines that makes the power to run the city and the microwave

[@anonim9464]

Ta kopalnia i elektrownia w Bełchatowie to nasza narodowa duma i Europa to może nas jedynie w dupe pocałować

[@TherBFE3000]

Seems like things changed in few days. Delete this video before coal sees it and gets angry.

[@jacksbob8746]

they wont shut it off. :)

[@EA-js1me]

BUILD NUCLEAR FFS!!!

[@waelfaraj6705]

Solar panels and storage batteries are getting more efficient and more affordable to buy side by side with other renewable energy technologies ...

[@waelfaraj6705]

Technology is developing and advancing , so in the medium term and the long term, things could change a lot possibly ... Renewables could diversify sources of energy , help reduce CO2 emissions and reduce oil bills sooner or later giving some countries more economic and political power ...

[@timothypopik2288]

these do not hold a candle to the cheap reliable clean coal alternatives

[@charlieritchie5980]

NO CHANCE

[@stubinski268]

BS

[@beneflettf]

wake up from your dream

[@davidtanslow3584]

If they'd spent as much money refining coal as they do on oil then coal could be the cleanest energy of the two !!

[@willlong4258]

Yo what tf

[@steveknott4255]

so destroy the world still. just buy yourself one more generation fossil fuel technology is obsolete get over it

[@davidtanslow3584]

@@steveknott4255 Sounds about right. Of course we should all bear in mind that thousands of tons of fossil fuels are needed to produce the plastics and polymers needed to make the so called, 'renewable' energy systems not to mention the huge holes that needs to be dug into the earth along with the habitat clearances for the raw materials to make wind generators and tide generators and nuclear power plants. The list goes on and on and on and on and on and on........

[@AdmiralBonetoPick]

If we banned anyone from getting a mobile phone until they were 22 years old, it would save over 50 million tonnes of carbon emissions a year worldwide. Zoomers are killing the planet.

[@willlong4258]

@@AdmiralBonetoPick Well if they used renewable energy for the electricity source then that will be nearly zero lolol

[@bluewater454]

The war on energy continues, regardless of the consequences.

[@waelfaraj6705]

Smart grids with hybrid systems can be miraculous also to be an alternative energy resource.

[@Gurci28]

Published: November 4, 2021 COP26: here’s what it would take to end coal power worldwide More than 40 countries have signed an agreement at COP26, the latest UN climate change summit in Glasgow, to phase out coal in electricity generation. The signatories include some of the world’s biggest coal burners: Canada, Poland, Vietnam, South Korea, Ukraine and Indonesia. The larger of these economies pledge to cease using coal in their power sectors in the 2030s, while the smaller ones promise the same during the following decade. 0:53 Source: The Conversation

[@timothypopik2288]

supplementary power ONLY

[@BrownyBird]

Ok, I will use this video to make a complain. I just watched a video about White privilege and all that nonsense. But the comments in that video were turned off. What are you afraid of Channel 4? Are you going to upset your audience from now on? Woke? Hypocrites? Gosh, how far this is going to carry on? I mean, you can't educate people upsetting people! That wasn't the way my parents educated me. So a minority of frustrated people now have the right to upset the majority just because a 10% of the population is racist? This will not end up well and in two decades times, things will comeback to sense. Meanwhile I am off from Channel 4! Good luck! Oh and I am mixed race if that counts!

[@zenou-samaIV]

So much for democracy eh. Thought it was majority first. Hmmmmm.

[@N0Xa880iUL]

Mixed race and defending white privilege. One word for you- validation.

[@andresamartins26]

Meanwhile, China just opened a new one

[@Antechynus]

To little, to late.

[@gerrygeko9712]

Go to your safe space, it's going to be ok.

[@joebidenisyourpresidentget2481]

@@gerrygeko9712When your lights go out, will it still be ok?

[@Antechynus]

@@gerrygeko9712 safe space... I live in a forest I own, 2 hours drive from nearest large town by dirt road if the roads open , in a house i made from 2 shipping containers, off grid, catching rainwater... veg and herb garden, chooks and 2 border collie dogs... and never bought into the mass deceptions of modern society. It used to be deceptions like " you are what you own" and "The west (Western democracy) is the best" etc, now it's "everyone's opinions are valid", "live your truth" and "words are weapons" and other utter garbage spouted by people today. I'm about as safe as anyone can be you moon unit.

[@notinthisworld5512]

why not every houses/buildings start to manage their power needs by installing solar cell, wind catcher or use water turbine (its not cheap, but good future investment) and feel enough with it!. start to live by yourserlf bro, be smart people. im trying now, its not late at all.. small change - imagine everyone in every countries all the world do that..once again. its not late at all.. sory bad english

[@chrismckellar9350]

Meanwhile will the world sits on it hands and have talkfests, the planet continues to warm every second of every day and night☹

[@hypotheticlz]

What is your solution exactly?

[@chrismckellar9350]

@@hypotheticlz - Adaption, build resilience and less consumption of non essential items, reduce C02, No2, methane, etc emissions and lead a sustainable environmentally friendly life style.

[@naphatsornngamchan5892]

In the current I was already found of Thermodynamic rules for green power plant is input = output + output + output + output: Example 40 KW/ Input side it can become 1.5 MW/ Output side ( Is not input = output-loss ) May I join with you?

[@jokubasvanagas3174]

What?

[@gerrygeko9712]

How is trusting the Russians working out for them???

[@BBTeZeT]

What Russians?

[@stephenduke412]

I love asian message parlors ❣ ❤ 💓 💕

[@lantas829]

I've been always thinking about what is the real influence of green energy on hole world, not only on the area where the reach white man lives. I mean total ecological cost of producing and maintenance of green power plants. I've never seen it prooved that it's better to cut a tree to make a paper bag than even to waste a plastic one.

[@Patchesmcgee123]

Read a book about science you pillock, plastic is made from oil

[@lantas829]

@@Patchesmcgee123 I know, Your Enlightened Exellency 😂 as each children knows. Well, maybe you know sources which shows that the summary effect is worse for a plastic bag.

[@lantas829]

@@Patchesmcgee123 Are you a child? Naming ppl is childish.

[@lantas829]

@@Patchesmcgee123 On the other hand I could be like these who suppose that the earth is flat. I don't know. We live in info chaos.

[@FreedomLovingLoyalist]

I don't want to die in a nuclear explosion.

[@jokubasvanagas3174]

Nuclear power plants *can't* blow up like nuclear weapons do.

[@jokubasvanagas3174]

@Will Swift CO2 IS the problem