The Rapture is Silly and Dangerous

[@crowprincess656]

My mom said that when she was a kid, my grandma used to talk abt the Rapture like it was gonna happen SOON. She was terrified and had trouble sleeping, because she was sure she wasn’t “good enough”. Imagine being 10 and worried abt being ripped apart from your family and being left to suffer alone

[@Danny451]

@Mary Carroll This "god" character also said in Leviticus 25: 44-46, that you are to buy your SLAVES from surrounding nations and you can bequeath them to your children as inherited PROPERTY FOR LIFE. Isn't god wonderful? Praise the Lord!

[@i_likemen5614]

@@Danny451 Don't forget when he sent bears to maul 42 boys because they cald someone "baldy"

[@boristheamerican2938]

Your grandma was correct, it did happen soon. For her. I think this whole rapture stuff is a personal thing and not meant to be taken as everyone participates in it at the same time.

[@bradandrews777]

Your grandmother had a flawed fear of God. Though our society could use a lot more of that than what we have today. How many of you actively reach out to those facing life alone? Most do not, yet have time to gripe about anything that might call them to change their own lives.

[@bradandrews777]

@@boristheamerican2938 The Biblical examples happened to specific people at specific times, not something vague like you note. Believe what you will. But conforming the Scriptues to our brains leads us to the modern situation of everyone doing what is right in their own eyes.

[@declanhickie1394]

Telling kids they will be left behind or burn forever if they aren’t good enough is abuse.

[@kariannerickson3228]

i agree

[@foxliasgriffinYT]

even if not intentional, being religious fucked me up so bad as a kid, i legitimetly would get guilty for irrational things like seeinf my brothers walk past me and for some reason i felt crippling guild. yes. crippling guilt from litteraly nothing, all the damn fucking time this is why i stopped being religious, it was fucking me up bad

[@JohnM-ch4to]

also kinda justifies the stupid self righteous behavior because they believe they have to be worthy of rapture

[@cobusjdatd2395]

My boss genuinely believes that rapture is right around the corner. She told me I probably wasn’t coming with her LMAO. I made the joke maybe it’s already happened and we’ve been left behind, she was NOT happy.

[@stm7810]

Jesus straight up said that slavers and the rich won't go to heaven, wage slavery counts so she'd better make your workplace a workers co-op or she ain't going to fictional heaven. use her wrongness to fight for your rights as a worker.

[@matthewmontano9695]

I want you to tell her to pray about her behavior instead of displaying non Christian ways.

[@timmyj4468]

@@stm7810 Jesus says that those that don’t believe in Him won’t make it to heaven. He never said the rich and slaves won’t go to heaven. Bu. But He did mention that it is harder for rich people to go to heaven because they would have to give up their greed and greed is a big part of many peoples lives. He used the rich man as an example.

[@stm7810]

@@timmyj4468 to be part of the capitalist class is inherently super greedy and cruel.

[@juanausensi499]

@@timmyj4468 Considering the metaphor he used, it looks like he thought the chances were zero.

[@mostlyjovial6177]

The “I hope the rapture happens this year, I was so disappointed when it didn’t happen last year” is genuinely horrific that people hold that belief.

[@jacobcox4565]

They assume they'll be the ones rising to heaven, when hoping for it to happen soon is a reason why they'd be among the ones left behind. No good person hopes for the apocalypse and the destruction of everything. The ones lucky enough to survive shouldn't feel good about it.

[@XavIsOnline]

​@@jacobcox4565 I think applying notions of good vs bad people in such a way misses the point here. What makes religion effective is that it hammers your moral compass into the shape it needs, using highly evolved systems of psychological exploitation. No matter how strong the pull of your conscience, your animalistic moral instinct, if you have been browbeaten and gaslit into seeing such instincts and even moral reasoning as definitionally EVIL wherever they conflict with dogma, then the ethical landscape can become nigh indecipherable. And making such character judgements as yours can become counterproductive.

[@jacobcox4565]

@@XavIsOnline I still think hoping for the apocalypse is wrong, because the breakdown of all governments and society as we know it combined with extreme natural disasters all over the world would mean the deaths of millions. Wishing for the rapture to happen, and by extension the apocalypse, also means wishing for the end of countless lives. Also, the prerequisites of getting into heaven are so vague that no one really knows for sure if they'd be safe if the rapture did happen.

[@jojolafrite90]

And so offensive to normal people that don't deserve eternal happiness, and deserve to be "stranded" and they want us all to just die.

[@JorgeGonzalez-ut3pm]

Oh it's definitely going to happen. But it will happen when you least expect it.

[@glennmartin6492]

I love how so many people are preferring armageddon to settle things rather than rolling up their sleeves to make things better.

[@autobotstarscream765]

Armageddon fixes everything, I learned that from Mortal Kombat! 😎

[@atlasg2402]

Yes I usually use my other hand sit on it get it numb then use it

[@verybarebones]

Tbh I can relate. I'd prefer Armageddon to having to wash my dishes some days.

[@Cri_Jackal]

And in all honesty, if there is a god, that's probably why the rapture hasn't happened. God's just too disappointed to give these people what they want.

[@foxcraft5215]

I mean i roll up my sleeves to settle things, good old one two shows em math

[@Shlumbus69]

When I was a kid, the rapture scared me because I actually believed it, now that I'm older the rapture scared me because others actually believe it

[@andydierickx4346]

Nicely said

[@user-account-not-found]

Instead of being scared set your expectations that everyone around you believes totally insane shit.

[@aNaturalist]

It scared me as a kid and teen too.

[@melissacooper8724]

As a kid I didn't quite understand it. As a young adult it scared me. Now as a middle-aged woman I just don't care anymore. The only thing about the Rapture that bothered me is in one of the Left Behind movies there was a dog that was lying beside a pile of clothes because his owner got raptured. Why would God leave a dog to fend for itself?

[@Lftarded]

Dunning Kruger effect and our survival instinct... Our fear excludes us from something dangerous, like their intelligence... Dangerously low

[@joelpaltzer8732]

It's fascinating how works like "left behind" and "dante's inferno" can become religious "canon" if they are popular enough.

[@Nognamogo]

Well the rest of their religion is already made up so why not.

[@Vin-sv9fm]

That's how religion works, often incorporating things already popular to be more appealing and relevant.

[@jac6547]

The movie "The Omen" from 1976 brought the Antichrist and the number 666 into pop culture.

[@richardbuckley1232]

Gods, I hope you aren’t comparing mass market junk with one of the greatest poems in western literature. Lol.

[@MatthewChenault]

They aren’t religious canon. They are extra material to help explain the faith better, which is why they can often be referred to. Take G. K. Chesterton’s “Orthodoxy” as a good example. It isn’t biblical canon, but has been associated with bringing people, such as C. S. Lewis, to the Christian faith because it best illustrates the strengths of the faith while also explaining it for those who might not understand as it is described in the Bible itself. Such works are condoned and supported by different Christian denominations to help those who want to become more faithful better understand the faith itself. They aren’t “Biblical canon,” but extra material to help explain complex concepts through narrative or some other means.

[@sixlinemedia]

Footage of people being disappointed that everything they have ever known and loved wasn’t destroyed is so incredibly sad

[@Thewolverine0865]

It's telling when people are more excited about the destruction and end of everything, than doing something that actually helps others.

[@buggs2024]

very much this. humans are just innately evil and vile. we are complainers and not doers. we say we love one another but when one of us is struggling we all hold our dicks in our hands expecting someone else to do something about it. hence why a "god" exists in the first place. rather than coming to terms that we are all just POSs we need a scape goat for our problems and now the "devil" exists. "god" is good and the "devil" is a meanie weenie aka when luck happens its god's doing and when a bad ouchie happens its the devil's fault.

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

And ppl still think we won't go extinct

[@mkvenner2]

It's a murder suicide pact at this point

[@francesshea6633]

Prayer is encouraged.

[@leadnsteel1428]

Nobody is going to come and save us. Only we can save ourselves.... although there was someone else thinking humanity is screwed because Giants will start walking the earth again.

[@carjis]

The rapture is sorta like saying “it’ll turn green NOW” at a stop light every second.

[@gaminggeckos4388]

Yup… No matter how many millennia they just keep waiting.

[@MagDrag123]

Drunk drivers: it's always green

[@hackman669]

American religious TV oastors are nut jobs!😁😅👍

[@NoBody-km3gn]

You made me spit out me drink jay. /j Thank you for the laugh!

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

I think you mean a stop sign

[@williambaldwin9487]

As a kid I remember waking up after a nap and finding that my parents and siblings were gone, and I cried for an hour thinking that they were raptured and I was left behind. Turns out they went to the store without me, but damn was that scary

[@arturravenbite1693]

@Censorship Sucks who said it was?

[@arturravenbite1693]

@Censorship Sucks why does it even matter or have any relevance whatsoever to his comment?

[@arturravenbite1693]

@Censorship Sucks he literally just told a story from when he was a CHILD, hes not "spreading false doctrine" you fucking coconut

[@Nardos553]

Same with happened to me, but it was my dad who I thought raptured,

[@drunklad5215]

So I kinda gave up on praying and the next day nobody in the house no note no nothing scared the crap out of me

[@katie4391]

This is so relevant currently. I’ve seen so many Baptists/evangelicals say that the brutal killing of Palestinians is exactly what God wants to happen. It’s sickening to justify something so horrific

[@wiltdwxtch]

They also believe the rapture is this year in April when we have the total solar eclipse. We’re not dealing with mentally sound people

[@onionsans]

they aren't justifying it they're just saying that it was always going to happen at some point

[@shineandre]

1300 Israeli people was brutally slaughtered. Women and children and men without mercy. They were tortured, burned, raped, just unthinkable in front of their family members. I think you have lost your heart to think that you did not even shed a tear for them. And yes God of Israel will avenge himself and fight for them against all the nations that continues to blame Israel for the Hamas massacre. It's like a man raping a women and says I did it because she dressed like a whore. Who in their right mind would support such an excuse as a justifiable reason. They even cut open a pregnant woman and stabbed her. Is this the kind of thing you support? And then when the police wants to catch the bad guys shouting I can't breathe making the cops look like criminals. This God hates when evil becomes good and good evil. Repent of this evil and learn what is good.

[@anindoin4330]

@@shineandre Every extremist group and every extremist ideology arises from a response to something, from dissatisfaction. When the establishment moderate ideologies, whether right or left, are unable to meet the needs of the people and comfort them with the same old discourse, people turn to extremist narratives and ideologies. Extremist terrorist groups only exist because Israel escalated the situation to unnecessary points that could clearly be avoided. Hamas only exists because of the actions that Israel has been committing against Palestine for decades! Israel prevents humanitarian missions inside Gaza(UN itself reported this), Israeli army commits atrocities against innocent civilians IN THE SAME WAY that Hamas does. . . Understand the following, friend: Hamas only exists because it is a response to the crimes and negligence that Israel was already committing against Palestine; Hamas is the PERFECT ENEMY that Israel needed to justify their military actions against the rest of the Middle East; As long as Israel continues to commit the same practices, groups like Hamas will continue to exist forever and ever.

[@shineandre]

Katie it's not about evangelicals or baptists. It's about justice and truth. The Palestine government uses their own people as shields. They also broke the international law by using schools, hospitals, mosque's and other cival buildings as fighting ground. why are you so heartless? You keep ignoring the slaughre of Israeli Asif they did not matter. And have you not seen that among the hamas Palestine fighters was civilians Pakistan's who did killings and sold women as slaves. But you ignore them because there is no love or truth in your heart. It's not your beauty that counts before God but a pure heart ❤️

[@avedic]

"The great disappointment." "This world offers nothing for us." "We're still here....unfortunately." My god.....the self loathing and utter depressive nihilism and hatred of reality is both sad....and terrifying. These people will burn the world down just to end their own pain. That's what worries me.....

[@AegixDrakan]

Yeah, it's horrifying. It also fills me with pity for them. :(

[@marcellofunhouse1234]

@@AegixDrakan im a Christian. I think the same I don't want to be here anymore

[@Kiera9000]

@@marcellofunhouse1234 but why. Is death so much better?

[@AegixDrakan]

@@marcellofunhouse1234 Well, then you have my pity. Yeah, the world is full of stuff that sucks, but there is still a lot to live for and enjoy. And there are still plenty of small ways we can make the world happier for ourselves and those around us.

[@a_angry_bunny]

That's the problem with radicalized "Christianity". The Bible calls us to be ready for the end, not spend every waking moment of our life waiting for it.

[@RenegadeRaiden]

A lot of my depression came from this growing up. I wondered what was the point of living if it was all just going to end before I had a chance to experience everything life had to offer.

[@cliscia]

Didn't expect to see Otoya here!

[@beatboxbill]

Yeah seriously. I shared these same thoughts growing up. It also instilled the unnecessary fear that I would be left behind. Especially if I woke up and no one was home.

[@DaniS398]

Literally sent me to counseling.

[@TheWrigle]

I never thought I would make it to adulthood growing up. I was sure jesus would come before then just like my parents said. Well luckily for me that didn't pan out and now I am happily married and don't believe any of the bull I was indoctrinated with as a kid. Still a great time when I go over to my parents place and they are still teaching the same "it's coming very soon, just wait" bull crap. I don't have kids yet, but I am pretty conflicted whether or not I am going to let them stay with their grandparents alone as I dont want these kind of stupid ideas hurting then the way it hurt meet growing up.

[@d3vitron779]

But experiencing life is bad because the book said so

[@deansartorel5570]

“We are still here unfortunately” bloody hell, these guys really want the world to end so much

[@craigcorson3036]

Many of them are actively working to bring it about. That's what scares ME.

[@Dinoluigi99]

Of course all these criminals and manipulators would want a convenient way to escape all accountability

[@Gnostic88]

Can you blame them? Have you seen 2020-2021?

[@grahvis]

The Christian religion is a death cult.

[@craigcorson3036]

@@Gnostic88 Have you seen 1420-1421? We are SOOOOOOOO much better off, and it is only getting better. Pay no heed to the doomsayers, they're just attention seeking.

[@UltimaJC]

I remember being a kid, I was like 7 or something, when Y2K happened and my parents dragged me to a midnight church service because of all those end time prophecy things, and right as the clock struck midnight, our sound guy killed the breaker and scared the shit out of everyone in the church. It was so hilarious LOL

[@zellafae]

That’s hilarious 😂😂😂

[@thac0twenty377]

I love that sound guy

[@UltimaJC]

@@thac0twenty377 He's a great guy, him and his wife were like grandparents to me after I lost mine. Sadly his wife passed a few months ago.

[@thac0twenty377]

@@UltimaJC with that sense of humor, I believe it. we always lose the good ones

[@bobbystanley8580]

Yes also 9-09-1999. All the time.

[@Me-wk3ix]

Here's what gets me. So many evangelicals want to be radical and loud. They are bold in showing what they hate, in what they are against, and in what they want people to fear. I used to be in the church until I started wondering something. Why isn't the focus on being radical in finding ways to help the vulnerable? In showing kindness? In acts of generosity? In gentleness and patience? Where does humility fit in? Those are not traits that most people associate with the church, and yet they are exactly what the church and Christians are supposed to be known for if you go by the bible.

[@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279]

Yep!

[@dani-daniellelefrancois688]

Yeah... My dad's side of the family is catholic / whatever.... Extremely Christian, anyway... When my dad died from an overdose, they left my mom and I out on the streets to fend for ourselves... And I was 16 at the time. THANK God for my mom. ❤️❤️❤️

[@leyrua]

If you go by the Bible? It depends on which passages from the Bible you selectively read. It also has many passages that can support all kinds of awful behavior.

[@leprechaunbutreallyjustamidget]

The answer is obvious. There isn't profit in helping.

[@andrewharper1609]

Actually people can pretty much use the Bible to justify almost any type of behaviour. From incest to stoning disobedient children and people who venture more than a few places from their front door on the Sabbath, religious genocide. Speaking from my own experience with the C of E growing up what I associate with the church is pompous arseholes who want to inflict their religion on other people with fucking hymns and prayer in daily assembly in school in spite of these things being of no use to anyone. Humility? Fat chance.

[@stevetarrant3898]

"I know Jesus will return in my lifetime." - said one billion dead people.

[@TOFKAS01]

They are just arrogant fools. Because they think that they are important enough so that Jesus would come during THEIR lifetime. "ME ME ME! I AM SO IMPORTANT JESUS! I DESERVE IT!"

[@the11382]

St. Peter is said to expect the return of Jesus in his lifetime, but that was 2k years ago.

[@stevetarrant3898]

@· can you give me an imaginary date to go with the imaginary story at least...

[@stevetarrant3898]

@· I'll take a guess. Never.

[@TGo-n-Roscoe]

I think that numbers a bit higher than you think... lol

[@georgefabars7218]

I grew up a Jehovah's witnesses and I can tell u that growing up thinking everyone is gonna die in a mass celestial genocide is terrible for mental health.

[@samuraijackoff5354]

Never knew Sun Tzu was a Jehovah’s Witness… but yeah, it’s not really healthy to constantly think that either the tomorrow or eventually you will die with everyone else in the world.

[@georgefabars7218]

@@samuraijackoff5354 "Jehovah's Witnesses suck major dick" -Sun Tzu

[@gnitsaf]

I grew up the same way but left them when I became an adult. It sucks because they used a changed bible and some of what they say is true. The best lies always have a bit of truth in it. They miss the big stuff. I was fortunate, I went back and examined everything with fresh eyes. I know many that left Jw's and gave up on God altogether because their view of him was tainted by the organization. They have a very weird non-biblical view of death. In the bible, the spirit is eternal and death is just moving from this life to the next. The death isn't the scary part. It shouldn't be, especially for christians. The scary part is the judgement. While christains shouldn't fear the judgement the same way a nonchristian should, but probably won't, they should. It's appointed unto man once to die then the judgement. We all are scheduled to die from the day we're born. We let other people's actions dictate what we believe. "That church is bad because the decon was a bad person." or "I don't believe in God because this bad thing happened." We have trouble seeing a larger picture. Don't let someone else's bad actions keep you from having a relationship with Jesus.

[@coolguy082]

Yeah, I mean every day from 5 to 12 thinking that some massive man in the sky could come down and kill everyone any second was my first time ever considering my mortality

[@chrisgraham2904]

That is nothing less than child abuse.

[@grimtygranule5125]

"The world is gonna end in 2030" People with Waiting Anxiety: "nowi i gotta SIT here doing NOTHING for years."

[@FrikInCasualMode]

Once i pointed out to a Rapturist, that expecting to be taken to Heaven because he considers himself better than rest of Christians is a sin of Pride. Which automatically disqualifies him from being Raptured, as he is a sinner. Oh, the mental gymnastics he started to prove that I'm wrong was pretty amusing.

[@theultimategamer8537]

Please try to recount these gymnastics for us comrade

[@gumbly4174]

Yes I want to hear the Christian explain this

[@MOMOFCJ6]

Yes Comrade tell us

[@FrikInCasualMode]

@@theultimategamer8537 It was months ago. But from what I remember, he rejected my accusations of him being a sinner, because he didn't consider himself better than the rest of Christians. It was all God's plan and choice of whom to Rapture. Then i asked him, if Rapture wasn't effectively a shortcut to Heaven for the chosen, because apparently there was limit on how many would be taken. But what about those just as pious and godly, but too unlucky to make it to this short list? At this point he started to quote scriptures, and i effectively stopped paying attention.

[@loreleimonn3220]

They’re literally supremacists, it’s crazy

[@Sxcheschka]

Who doesn't love existential dread? It's so fun, and totally doesn't make you have panic attacks, crippling depression, lack of self worth, and lack of wanting to be alive.

[@adamc1966]

Yes thank you religion. 👍

[@Sxcheschka]

@@adamc1966 Oh no, I was never religious, but to those that were or are, yeah it do literally be like that. But for me, I discovered that all on my own growing up, I'm basically just an absurdist who vibes really hard with zen Buddhism

[@TURBOMIKEIFY]

On the topic of existential dread (random fact about me), when the sky turns red, orange/red (I'm colorblind so I can't describe the color well) I get feelings of doom and existential dread. That color of the sky always makes the world feel surreal, like I'm in a dream. I'm dreading when the Saharan sands come to America again. It scares me to my core, and I don't know why.

[@IndifferentAgainstTheMachine]

Sort of like how were all ongoing die from Climate Change in 12 years or less.

[@EBR1]

@@adamc1966 Not all religions are apocalyptic. It seems to be a big thing in Christianity though. I sure don't see Buddhists traumatizing children or causing any trouble.

[@optative2389]

I remember that once, during a women’s conference for my church, a lady talked about her ‘rapture experience.’ Apparently, when she was younger, one day she found herself alone in her normally full house. She panicked, thinking the rapture had happened, so she tried calling some people she considered ‘Holy Ghost filled,’ none of which answered the phone. From what I remember her saying, she basically fell apart at this, thinking she was left behind to suffer for eternity. It’s terrible how this belief becomes so ingrained in people that it causes breakdowns over such small things as a house being empty. These beliefs are damaging. I’m glad you’re talking about it!

[@Caercutta30]

Why did she fall apart? I mean the next 7 years will blow, but she should have took a look at her life, confessed her sins and accepted God's forgiveness. You gotta keep your eye on the prize.

[@optative2389]

@@Caercutta30 @Caercutta30 the point im trying to make is that even though she is a good person, she was terrified over something so trivial. It seems you believe the rapture will happen, okay, but surely you must see the large amount of stress it puts on people to believe that the tiniest thing will get them left behind. I know i used to pray that God would forgive all of my actions, even if they werent actually biblical sins. This has caused me to have constant doubt about everything i do, i don't even trust myself, which is stressful. That's why i think this belief can be harmful. Perhaps it isnt for some people, but it is for too many.

[@Caercutta30]

@@optative2389 Yes , I could see how that would be harder to bounce back from for a lot of people. I'm just saying that any church that preaches the Rapture should have also covered the worse case scenarios. My experiences are not universal. None of our walks are the same.

[@optative2389]

@@Caercutta30 idk whatcha mean by worst case scenarios, but yeah, people are different and different things affect them differently 😉. I just hope we can better ourselves and help others not get hurt badly.

[@revenge3265]

Sounds very cult-y and damaging to the mind tbh.

[@belle2056]

As a kid with undiagnosed OCD, the rapture was by far my biggest fear. I was convinced that my intrusive thoughts were God speaking to me, and even if they weren’t, God could hear every thought that I had. If you know anything about intrusive thoughts, you would know that they are incredibly scary and make you feel like you’re a horrible person and in my little nine year old brain, I knew that I was going to hell. I remember asking my mum if I was going to be raptured, partly because I wanted her to tell me of course because I was a kid, but mostly because I wanted her to tell me I was a good person. Like lots of people in this comment section, I remember feeling horrible dread when I couldn’t find my parents at home bc I thought that my parents had been raptured and as I was a kid with horrible thoughts that I had no control over, was left by God. As I got older, my ocd and undiagnosed autism manifested into a long battle with mental illness. I regularly had episodes, and every time I did, death was an option for me to not be raptured, hopefully God would understand that and maybe I wouldn’t be sent to hell for them. After every episode, my mum would tell me that God would not allow me into heaven and I just remember who I was, and that I betrayed her. My desperate prayers would never be heard, the end was near and I was bound to be left behind. Now that I’m slightly older and medicated, my relationship with religion is practically non existent. I never want to feel the same fear that I did when my mum or dad would talk about a new event in the news that proved Jesus was coming, and I know for a fact that religion will be non existent in the lives of my future children. My mums fear mongering tactics made me believe that God was out to get me, that god wanted me and my entire family dead, that God couldn’t possibly love me. I still feel the same fear I did when my mum doesn’t come home from work on time or when my dad spends more time then expected going out for the weekly shop, and I know that that fear will always be there but I have found peace in the fact that the rapture is out of my control. If it will happen in my lifetime (which I doubt), I can’t do anything about that, and even if I don’t get handpicked by God to not suffer for eternity, I doubt I would fit the qualifications anyways. My life will be spent happy, and the idea that I can be left on earth without any of my loved ones isn’t really my worth constant worry.

[@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269]

I hope therapy is still going well. God bless 🙏, I hope you decide to come back someday

[@perhaps1094]

​@techpriestofmars1269 you really read all that and thought no is the time too preach?? Fuck off

[@starwarsempirestrikesbacks182]

I hope your doing good men ❤

[@flynnferal5878]

jfc I hope you're doing so much better now. you didn't deserve any of that bullshit, either from your religion or from your parents.

[@RedKincaid]

Very familiar story, I hope you're doing well now, or as good as possible. OCD combined with a religious upbringing is nightmarish

[@animeotaku307]

I always get the impression that the people salivating for the Rapture are the ones who are going to stand around looking confused because they haven't been brought up into the Heavens.

[@matthewmontano9695]

A lot of us ye

[@timmyj4468]

The word rapture isn’t actually mentioned in the Bible but the concept of it is. In 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 1 Corinthians 15:50-54.

[@animeotaku307]

@Jef van Becker Well, all the more reason to not follow Christianity. “Worship me or you’ll suffer forever” sounds a lot like a threat from an abusive spouse. And that’s all it really takes? Not actually trying to do good for others? If selfish self-righteous jackasses like you are what’s filling up Heaven, I’ll take the other place, thanks.

[@animeotaku307]

@Tony Surber Yeah, but it's the guy I replied to that's turned me off Christianity as a whole. I know it's not all Christians, but the assholes just keep piling up and yelling. It's like a toxic fandom; sometimes it's not worth staying with them.

[@ub3rfr3nzy94]

@@animeotaku307 Yep, I'd rather go to hell than be forced to worship some asshole who created me without consent and then told me I owe him for it. Sounds more like an abusive parent than a spouse. Take religion as philosophy, not as dogma. Don't take the events seriously, use them to learn, like ancient Greek stories. It is clearly not real, but Jesus was a philosopher imo and we can still learn from him without taking all the hebrew crap about floods and angels seriously.

[@elenas3571]

Humans: _predict the rapture_ God: “well now I’m not doing it”

[@Wm7forthewin]

lmao

[@maxuno8524]

🤣😂

[@rolfs2165]

As the great bearded man himself once said: "At this rate, any time someone tries to predict it, I actually put the rapture off two more months."

[@prestongiles9917]

Humans: *invent the atomic bomb* God: Oh COME ON-!!!!

[@samanthalake5011]

🤣🤣🤣right. Fuk yall

[@retsz]

I can't wrap my head around so many people excited for the end of the world and the death of billions. It's pretty gross, tbh

[@chrisgraham2904]

I can't wrap my head around any grown human being actually believing any of this nonsense.

[@TheMurlocKeeper]

What do you expect from a group of people that openly hate or look down upon anyone not like them, and that weekly celebrate their "saviour's" grisly death, while symbolically eating his flesh and drinking his blood. Like, wtf??? These are in actual fact, VERY sick and twisted people! I'm pretty sure it qualifies as a mental illness, surely! They're delusional...and they want YOU to join them!

[@j-joe-jeans]

@@chrisgraham2904 Sad is it not?

[@j-joe-jeans]

@@TheMurlocKeeper Come, drink the Kool-aid

[@coryrad9575]

No, really, it’s going to be awesome! I promise! Totally worth waiting for! The only real downside is that because it is the end of the world, none of us will have any grandchildren to tell the stories to.

[@JoeSnyder-iv5nz]

It’s sad all these people are so concerned about the future and afterlife, that they don’t realize they can actually look at all the beautiful, wonderful things available to all of us right now, in the present.

[@johnrockyryan]

well fucking said 👏

[@Jay-ate-a-bug]

I had a semi-religious girlfriend who was fully onboard with the "Left Behind" books by LaHaye and Jenkins. She talked me into reading them, and to be fair, I actually enjoyed them for the Fiction novels they were. When I finished the final book my girlfriend asked me if I was ready to accept Jesus and I told her that if what the books had taught me was true, then I had 7 years once the rapture happened to believe in god, so when all the Christians disappear one day, that will be all the evidence I need. She was not happy with that respose.

[@michaelmichelz3349]

So the left behind goes to heaven first ....so is the right behind right behind the left behind....lm a little confused.....and where do the assholes go.....also if the left behind are left behind where do the left behind go...and does the right behind leave the left behind left behind....too confusing....I really don't give a crap.... which is probably the reason this mess started in the first place.....

[@kingsmas8340]

@@michaelmichelz3349 why did i actually understand...

[@MarkLipka]

*Great info! Thanks!*

[@alienpov]

Well That would be heaven on earth, if all the christians disappeared along with the muslims and the jews.

[@reoij]

can't believe we dated the same girl lmao

[@raysofmariehere6441]

Ya know it’s a shame D&D was considered satanic because I think a lot of this creative energy/ puzzle solving enthusiasm could have been channeled into a positive place.

[@user-jq1mg2mz7o]

it's for the best, wouldnt want these whackos anywhere near my table!

[@paulmerritt2484]

Why would it be satanic? That is just silly and I am a born again Christian.

[@aljoschalong625]

@AngelKitty Christianity and the bible are just badly written fantasy.

[@Valkaze111]

@AngelKitty these people smh

[@SotraEngine4]

My Christian community has a D&D group. One day we play D&D, the next day we go to church together

[@zenli1407]

Plot twist: the rapture has already happened, no one was judged worthy

[@catherinerosner970]

Awesome!! 😂

[@sammagny6548]

This I'm willing to believe helps bring the holier-than-thou's down a few pegs

[@Kingpin1880]

Either that or we're just all that's left and that's why so much sucks.

[@theautisticguitarist7560]

"There's a trillion aliens cooler than you," - Bo Burnham

[@jsnel9185]

This is probably what would happen.

[@NathanTRousseau]

Jesus: “No one knows the day or the hour.” Some Random White Guy: “100% it’s gonna be JuLy FoUrTh, 202USA, I know because George Washington came to me in a wet dream and told me!”

[@The-Black-Militant]

😂

[@Lftarded]

It's not "came to me", it's "came on me"

[@stephentitus7137]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Lazy_Gay_Man]

George Washington thrusted a final time, before he came down to my ear, brushing his lips against it, “the world will end in July Fourth, 202USA,” he moaned in a sultry voice, before I felt his package burst inside of me

[@annaairahala9462]

I love how you just show the raw clips for us to judge, no voice over, no witty comebacks, just a display of their own words.

[@zeynaviegas]

i have mixed feeling about this, because I feel like when we are left to our own judgement we kinda miss somethings that someone, with a deeper knowledge about the issue, would not miss

[@louisinese]

@@zeynaviegas It also leaves room for you to be a free thinker aswell, instead of following just what youtube says. Better for us to experience some things personally.

[@ColossatronProductions]

Touhou epic

[@Fallen-Saint]

@@zeynaviegas what this video miss is what the Bible actually says

[@Fallen-Saint]

@@louisinese so will you read what it says the Bible I mean?

[@kenbee1957]

The End: *Doesn't happen Christians: Disappointed for some reason

[@thesmasher138]

Rinse and repeat literally thousands of times across about a couple thousand years

[@TheNinthGeneration1]

It’s because they are a socially accepted death cult, compare them to Heaven’s Gate, the leader is named Jesus with a Heavenly Father, they cannot wait for the right time to ascend to heaven/space, and that will be the best day of their lives

[@TuesdaysArt]

Everyone likes to think the time they live in is unique/special.

[@mjallen1308]

Im actually hoping they’re right so they can finally go away and shut the fuck up.

[@SapphWolf]

And yet they keep trying to label us nihilists.

[@elizabethbaker7185]

I've always wanted to buy millions(literally millions) of blow up dolls, dress them with thrift store clothes, glue on cheap wigs, fill them with helium, and then release them all at once. Just to see what would happen.

[@muppetonmeds]

They better not wind up in my yard lol.

[@jor4114]

Sorry, someone got ahead of you on that for the whole Rapture deal of May 2011. There's videos about it too, I believe.

[@arriannaniv]

Helium is in a shortage right now, and is uber expensive. Be the most expensive part of it.

[@elizabethbaker7185]

@@jor4114 I must see this!

[@jor4114]

@@elizabethbaker7185 I couldn't find the video itself, but here's where I learned of it. Skip to 9:14 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6rRf6Owpr6nZrs And here's something else that kind of goes in line with your idea too. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z327poGme5uBjMk

[@leslieperkins2722]

If dogs aren’t allowed in Heaven, I’m not going.

[@jongameaddict]

All Dogs Go To Heaven

[@meantweetsandcheepgas946]

He didn't say they aren't allowed he said they won't be raptured.

[@TJ-hg6op]

@@meantweetsandcheepgas946Nah god told me that dogs go to heaven. Cats too, don’t worry he clarified that.

[@meantweetsandcheepgas946]

@@TJ-hg6op good to know 👍

[@Idonothing-jj7qe]

@@TJ-hg6opI’m atheist butttttt, if heaven does exist, my theory is that dogs go to heaven because god backward is dog

[@motherofthetans]

They just can't wait until they're all floating up into the sky so they can look down on all of us heathens and say, "We told you so!" That's literally all this is about. They want to prove us all wrong so badly they're hoping for the end of the world to do it. Also, I live just outside of San Antonio and you can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting a megachurch. It's disgusting.

[@coolguy082]

Imagine a bunch of Christians floating up to the sky, then a bunch of them start bragging about it and they fall back down

[@TheMurlocKeeper]

Gee...that sounds an awful lot like...pride? Lol! I always observed that religious idiots like these to be the most egotistical, obnoxious, toxic fucktards ever. They preach about love and acceptance and being kind, generous, etc....but they're always arseholes to others that aren't in their little clubhouse. It disgusts me. How many of these churchgoing righteous dickheads ever regularly go visit people in jail, or call in on old people to see how they are, or visit and tend to the sick, you know...just like their "saviour" did on the regular? (at least, that's what was said in their precious bible...or so I am told, lol!) There's a good reason why I hate religious zealots...and this is it. Their insane double standards.

[@gracehaven5459]

Always a very colorful analogy, swinging a dead cat.... Phaedra is a cool name btw

[@QBRX]

I feel for you.

[@brucejohnson9696]

I hope the cat was already dead before you started swinging it around at least.

[@HobGungan]

So, if this event happens really really fast, does that make it a... Veloci-Rapture?

[@Llortnerof]

All hail Raptor Jesus!

[@freefalling36]

LMAO!!!!!!

[@austinlincoln3414]

WHYYY

[@petlover0231]

Yes

[@thetooginator153]

Adam Bram - Good one!

[@skydaddyissues3884]

“Silly? More like dangerous and traumatizing”- evangelical 90s kid who constantly thought she’d been abandoned on earth every time she couldn’t locate her parents within 5 minutes

[@EmpressArcana-y8t]

I am honestly paranoid of it

[@davewolf8869]

Not only abandoned, but unworthy

[@heathercorder8352]

I'm in this comment and I don't like it

[@gbyrdstudent3075]

@@heathercorder8352 Same except I’m a 2000’s kid.

[@plantymcplantface7182]

same holy shit

[@jaydenlavaman]

You mentioning the Palestinian and Israeli conflict felt so important right now

[@caneprints]

I once worked in a hospital as a medical transcriptionist during a time when some preacher was predicting the end of the world. we actually had a few patients who didn’t refill their medication’s because they figured the end times were coming. needless to say, they ended up in the emergency department with pretty serious conditions like seizures and out of control blood sugars because they were without their medication‘s.

[@evandaniell6072]

Stuff like this is why I am against religion. Even with the best of intentions, all it causes is pain and misery for yourself or the people around you.

[@JadeDragoness6]

I remember this happening for 2012. Kids not going to school, got anxiety from dooms days prophets, etc

[@theblackcatgirl7013]

😬😬😬 Oof

[@alfsleftnut9224]

This is why the line about only god knowing the date of the end of the world is in the bible.

[@legion999]

They wanted to die then, but you stopped them

[@manateemaestro4966]

As a kid this horrified me. I was so worried I would miss out on so many life events I found important. The first instance I experienced this sort of "Christian Terror" was when I learned of the crucifixion of Jesus. It procured a deep feeling of terror and sorrow in my 5 year old head. I did not like that someone had to be brutally murdered for our salvation and it made me sad that someone depicted as so kind was killed so brutally. It did not help that my teachers pushed the narrative that as a Christian I would be persecuted and maybe killed like Jesus. I was not able to sleep for a while and I would begin to cry abruptly as I was horrified about that idea. I remember learning about the Rapture and thinking that it was a horrible thing to do. Almost every day I would look at the sky and I begged God to let everyone go on another day. This cycle of pleading for my life and others happened throughout my middle school years. I didn't want life to end for anyone nor did I want to miss out on anything I saw as important. Because these ideas were engrained into my head, my anxiety was worsened by a lot, as I lived in fear that one say life would simply stop. Now as a young adult, I see that these ideas were fear mongering and extremely harmful. I am now very spilt from the religion that I was forced to grow up in. This video honestly made me feel a whole lot better about still fearing this horrid event despite not being attached to religion.

[@iscariette]

I've also had to break myself away from that evangelical mindset. But even now as an atheist, I'm sometimes scared that the rapture will come, and I would be at the mercy of an angry god. All because I didn't want to live my life repenting my "sins", begging for forgiveness, and dedicate my time and energy to worship everyday. I'm getting better at easing my mind though. I hope that you've found the peace you need in order to keep yourself from fearing this horrific apocalypse♡

[@benapeh854]

@@iscariette It's a constant struggle for us ex Christians. I thought I had completely gotten over the fear of hell until a few months ago when it suddenly came back and I'm suddenly questioning things I've already questioned.

[@iscariette]

@@benapeh854 It really is a constant struggle, and it's terrible that you're going through that. It's good to keep questioning things though, even if you'd already questioned it. That's what scientists do, after all. I genuinely wish you the best of luck ( l v l )

[@johnpatterson4816]

Oh Yes!!Hagee the Horrible!!I remember his 'best sellee' "Fout Blood Moons"!! Turns out that four blood moons were exactly that four red moons. Nothing g more,nothing else Now the binexg big thing is the arrival of a pair of red heifers in Israel. Sorry,but a pair of red heifers is merely that

[@Kayceesoutdoorliving]

​@@iscariette I don't know how long you've been an atheist but I assure you it gets better. A god that doesn't make itself known and then punishes people after death based on whether or not a person believed that god existed in life (again without any evidence) is an immoral thug unworthy of worship in the first place. If it turns out that is the reality we live in we can all burn together knowing we are morally superior to this kind of being.

[@Parrot5884]

Some of these people sound outright suicidal. It's honestly kind of scary and disturbing.

[@Reevay762]

Worst than horror movies 😜

[@whowhy7554]

Yeah it feels kinda sad to see all these people wanting to die and being sad

[@Tom-sl1ur]

9:55

[@borealfox]

The way that woman said something along the lines of "this world has nothing for us" sounds a lot like she was part of some Silent Hill like death cult. And they don't seem aware of that. Which is counterproductive because they want the world to end... There are millions of people trying hard so we make it some more years. But these people just give up for some bullshit.

[@jessicajohnston5693]

I was thinking the same thing... I have a lot of work to do. I want to be a therapist because I overcame being depressed and suicidal for 10 years. I thought I had to live like that forever... I hope things get better for everyone and I learn how to help people.

[@mocurio]

That song “Kathy, don’t go to the supermarket today” REALLY screwed me up. Hearing it again gave me a bad feeling inside.

[@starylize]

this reminds me of when the pastors would always ask us (including the kids) “if you died tonight, would you go to heaven or hell?” to try to scare us into straightening up our act so that we’d be saved

[@Thingumadoodle0518]

Oh yeah, I relate. My grandpa indoctrinated me into Christianity as soon as I could read, and I remember crying hysterically when I found out my parents and sisters were atheists because I was terrified that they wouldn’t be going to Heaven with me.

[@cindys9491]

Similar situation. I was 7 or 8 and was alternating between fear of myself burning because maybe I wasn't saved, OR family members and friends burning "if I didn't work up the courage to tell them (about the gospel)." I was learning my multiplication tables in third grade at the same developmental stage that I was terrified of hell. I agree that this garbage and false responsibility to proselytize should not be put on kids. I'm sorry they did that to you too.

[@mkthatartist7979]

Yeah. The same thing happened to me very recently (I’m a minor). At my Christian school’s retreat that was required, the pastor there said the same thing to me and it did scare me (Also, another slimy thing he did) For one service he talked about how he almost had sex with this girl who ended up having HIV and died of aids. He said, “I’m not trying to scare you” *BRO!!! YES YOU ARE! THAT IS A SUPER SCARY EXPERIENCE!*

[@depressedphilosopherbitch7581]

@@Thingumadoodle0518I remember being indoctrinated around four. But I can't recall anything below that age.

[@swizzler]

I always thought it'd be fun to right a book about the rapture from the Christian perspective, where they go to heaven and learn angels are a separate species of horrific eye-wheels, and the raptured humans pretty much exist to live as a subclass of servants to God and the angels for eternity.

[@thadtheman3751]

Well before you "right" a book, I suggest you learn to spell. As for being servants to angels, there is some Christian folklore that when God created Angels he told them"bow to no one but me". Then when he created man he told the angels to bow before man and that's when Lucifer rebelled. So servants of angels-- not so much.

[@cameronvadnais4388]

@@thadtheman3751 lol, Jesus dude. Sounded like a fine plot to me.

[@LiShuBen]

@@thadtheman3751 to be fair God isn't exactly a good guy in his own book so I wouldn't be surprised if this was a lie to coax humans into pledging their souls to it through its blood magic ritual Christians call communion.

[@lucyfur9104]

@@thadtheman3751 I hope you get raptured today.

[@bluester7177]

@@thadtheman3751 not everyone is a native English speaker and even then it's a small mistake.

[@silvervase]

I remembered in the 90s there was a big thing about the world ending and my grandmother goes "yeah I've been through 5 end of the worlds....still here.🙃"

[@Oliviagarry69420]

That sounds hilarious and also probably what my grandma from my dad side will say since she was in England during World War 2

[@mirzamay]

Yup 😁😂

[@MegaChickenfish]

Y2K was pretty uneventful, but I'd rather not live through more 2020's, whoof.

[@cobramcjingleballs]

welp nope...end of world is 1 world government, 1 world economy, 1 world money, and 1 world religion....also if you look at prophecies...israel has to be reborn....there will be 2 wars against it. First, it lists who, turkey, iran, muslim russian states, but they wont attack jordan, they will conquer israel, egypt and lybia. Then They hear tidings from north and retreat back to Sinai where they melt from fire from sky. Then world government comes around. Great reset anyone? so all that has to come about...it was written 2000 years ago.

[@robiking011]

People have been making end of the world predictions since the dawn of civilization. End of the world predictions aren't anything new. I guess it stems from people's desire to feel special. People want the world to end in their lifetime because they think it will make them feel special because their lives took place during the culmination of history.

[@TainaElisabeth]

It’s honestly sad that these people hate their lives this much

[@metallic_mayhem4830]

My grandmother is an "End Time Minister" and she has raised me most my life. The idea of a rapture had always been looming over me. It was used as a fear tactic to keep us acting good or otherwise we'll never see our family again and suffer. Shes been preaching that the rapture is near since the 70s but it's still going on.

[@invaderhorizongreen8168]

never mind Christianity has been saying end times sense 60CE that is a very very long time of getting it wrong repeatedly.

[@ixisinvestigator6009]

WAKE UP jesus christ is a devil in disguise ! for god love his world and son so much ! that he put him into a human evelope just so he can watch him die ! all of it, without even letting him know. it is that his death have a magical redemption impact on you, because you believed in the book that say so. and it will extinguish ALL SIN" that it ! jesus does not die to prevent a war or anything just, there is no justice in him. he died because he said that his death is redemptional to your sin. while in reality he was just condamened by the romans and did not what lie he can make up his mind with. the goal of those demons is let you away from the truth and the dharmic god. and to make you follow a retarded that died for your "sins" ! so you fear as possible that you will not make be saved ! and be loved by jesusy who love love love you by his anti-sin stupid sacrifice.

[@rustylasagna]

@@invaderhorizongreen8168 You would think Evangelicals would grow wise to that fact, that none of these end times dates getting prophesied ever materialize into something tangible.

[@Cheezbat]

@@rustylasagnaclearly anybody putting a date on it doesn’t get it. The Bible says nobody knows the day or time….so….how could anybody then know the date? 🤷‍♂️

[@NateDogg2888]

@@Cheezbat What the Bible says has rarely been the basis for widespread Christian belief, my friend

[@lora_sirk258]

I remembered when my older cousin who was 19 asked my younger siblings, who are 8 and 9, ‘if they are scared of death’, I knew she was going start preaching about the afterlife so I interrupted her, changed the subject to stop her from scaring my siblings.

[@katherineg9396]

It's wonderful how you protected your younger siblings!

[@samfisher9413]

Sounds like you saved your siblings from some indoctrination attempts.

[@TheMilitantMazdakite]

@@samfisher9413 You know, everyone raises their kids under an ideology of some form. I, although Zoroastrian, was raised in a secular household. Despite this, my dad raised me to be a Left-center, and my Grandparents to be Right wing. Now I am a Communist.

[@samfisher9413]

@@TheMilitantMazdakite Put down the crack pipe dude.

[@TheMilitantMazdakite]

@@samfisher9413 ????

[@septegram]

I'm not Christian, but even I know "no man knows the day or the hour." 🙄

[@awesome_by_default]

or the year. We just don't know, so why not just live your life the best you can. Whether it be a religious event, like the rapture, or an asteroid hitting the earth. Just live, until that fateful day comes.

[@robiking011]

People who are obsessed with the Rapture and the second coming of Jesus are people who simply don't want to accept their own mortality. They don't want to grow old and die because deep down they are afraid that maybe there is no afterlife. And so the only way they can know for sure that there really is an afterlife and that there really is a God is to be alive when Jesus returns. And so the cling to any evidence that points out that Jesus will return in out lifetime. Sometimes they become tempted to find out on what day Jesus will return because if Jesus is definitely returning in our lifetime then we should be able to calculate more or less on what year Jesus will return.

[@springbloom5940]

As a thief in the night

[@debrajohnson382]

EvenHesus diesntknow until God tells him. It can happen any time.

[@jung.o.2080]

Wrong *looks at clock* Ok true

[@dinosaurkin5093]

If my cat's not going, I'm not interested.

[@commentsedited]

Me too. Both of mine

[@Hugealligator254]

When I hear “the lord moves in mysterious ways” I just think of him doing a really silly walk

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

Did he gain a grant from the ministry?

[@callmefox630]

I didn't know that Jerma985 was actually God all along.

[@alpetz939]

@callmefox630 Then you need to wake the FUCK up. Jerma is the one true gosh.

[@robertmyers6865]

Stupid.

[@sir_dragonfly7287]

And I think of a U2 song

[@bethanyjoy6041]

As a pastors kid in the 90s, I would get panic attacks at night that if I died in my sleep I would go to hell so I would obsessively repent over & over until I fell asleep. (I developed crippling anxiety, a mood disorder, as well as a personality disorder as a young adult js) Anytime I was walking through the house & couldn’t find my family, I would panic thinking that they’d been raptured & I hadn’t been good enough & was “left behind”. I am now 31, completely deconstructed since I was 27/28 & been in therapy for many years & STILL panic briefly when I’m at my parents house & can’t locate them immediately. Needless to say, I refuse to ever take my son to church. I tell him “don’t ever let them convince you there’s something wrong with you” regularly. I love my parents but oh my do I wish they’d not instilled these beliefs in me. & it makes me sad as I watch my siblings passing it down to their children. (Those Christian apocalyptic horror movies, though! Come on guys, I was like 6!)

[@fruity4820]

It's absolutely mind boggling to me that a mother will perch existential dread to her children, and won't stop to think it might be problematic when her kids began having panic meltdown everytime they lose sight of her for 5 seconds. How can you not connect the dots? The only plossible answer is generational trauma, I gues, I am happy you manage to break out of the generational trauma and give your kids the worry-free childhood every child deserves

[@Dragonmoon98]

@@fruity4820 Chances are they're so deep in the religion that they can only see it as a wonderful thing and can't understand why it instills such existential dread.

[@dianemitchell1717]

This type of belief is definitely child abuse. Luckily my parents were not evangelicals so I was not subjected to this kind of fear. In the end, however, Jehovah scared me so much I decided not to believe in him as a teenager. I felt such a rush of relief I knew I made the right decision. I always liked Jesus though.

[@dayateaparty4047]

Pastor's kid here too. And dude, the point about your siblings is so real. I'm on track to be in that same situation. I'm struggling to come to terms with the fact that I'll have nieces and nephews that will suffer the same religious trauma and there's not much I can do about it. This country does not take kindly to people calling out religious abuse, especially when it's Christian religious abuse and when children are involved (since it's the parents' choice how they want to raise their kids). I feel like all I can do is be there for the kids and risk creating yet another rift within the immediate and extended family.

[@ixisinvestigator6009]

repent over and over until i fall asleep? what that even means? WAKE UP jesus christ is a devil in disguise ! for god love his world and son so much ! that he put him into a human evelope just so he can watch him die ! all of it, without even letting him know. it is that his death have a magical redemption impact on you, because you believed in the book that say so. and it will extinguish ALL SIN" that it ! jesus does not die to prevent a war or anything just, there is no justice in him. he died because he said that his death is redemptional to your sin. while in reality he was just condamened by the romans and did not what lie he can make up his mind with. the goal of those demons is let you away from the truth and the dharmic god. and to make you follow a retarded that died for your "sins" ! so you fear as possible that you will not make be saved ! and be loved by jesusy who love love love you by his anti-sin stupid sacrifice.

[@lilliannezuspann2518]

I remember being like 8 or 9 years old and, I was in my basement bedroom, I started hearing this weird loud noise coming from outside. I panicked, thinking it was somehow the angel's trumpet, and frantically tried to find the bible and began reading. I was crying and praying. How messed up is that? A child freaking out and having a panic attack, thinking that they would be left behind and "punished" because of nothing. But, yeah, this is perfectly fine and acceptable🧐🙄

[@daveh2612]

It’s awful and I’m sorry you went through that. I had the same nonsense brainwashing as a child in church.

[@richardlawson6787]

I call these idiots out every time...you don't get to talk that insane crap around me....

[@AuroraIceFlame]

Jeez I was anxious enough when I was a kid I’m so thankful my family weren’t very religious

[@depressedphilosopherbitch7581]

I watched this video when I was like 10 or 11 of this woman warning about the rapture or sum shit. I don't even remember what exactly it was about, but it was terrifying enough for me to start crying and freak out. It was horrible.

[@melissacooper8724]

Lillianne, did you ever find out what that noise was?

[@AidenOcelot]

I remember vibing in the park during Easter, this guy walked up to me and explained to me that Jesus saved and that if I don't accept I will burn in hell forever. I ran home crying

[@Torian1o1]

I've always considered the whole "Rapture" idea to not only be incredibly dangerous, but downright cruel too. Here we have thousands of people actively hoping for an event that will plunge the rest of us non-believers into 7 years of chaos and death and suffering, before being cast into eternal hellfire so the suffering can continue *literally forever* while they get to chill in paradise. Doesn't really help the whole "love thy neighbour" concept methinks Edit: To all religious people who seem to be missing the point of this comment - I don't think the "Rapture" is dangerous and cruel because I'm afraid I'll go to hell. Quite the contrary: I don't believe the Rapture is ever going to happen at all. Nor do I believe God/heaven/hell/the "soul" exists. It's all just sadistic fanfiction on an already fictional storybook (the bible). I'm criticizing anyone who believes in the Rapture and also claims God is kind and loving. No kind and loving being would design a system this cruel.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

If you find that cruel, study a bit the JW indoctrination about the final cleansing of the world when Sword Mouth Jesus will need his 144,000 chosen to kill everybody still alive after rapture and tribulation... WITH SWORDS. And they are not just reluctantly accepting that or putting it off as a distant future (after all Revelation can be read that the peaceful rule of the Antichrist will last 1000 years) they are actively looking forward to being THAT trusted and loved by god that he'll ask them to do his butcherwork for him... THAT is how badly religion can break some people's minds and scramble their moral compass.

[@Torian1o1]

@@Ugly_German_Truths I have actually heard about that "only 144,000 chosen ones remain" story. Which actually makes the whole idea even worse! Not only are non-christians apparently going to suffer forever, but even most christians are gonna be in for a bad time. I mean...how much is 144,000 out of 7.5 billion percentage-wise?

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@@Torian1o1 oh it is slightly better as there are two levels of the"good" afterlife, the 144k go straight for the throne of God, while everybody else who's "saved" but didn't make the exclusive celestial club will remain the on the reformed, ParadisiCal Earth. Which means mostly JW of course. So maybe fifty million out of 180 billion humans who ever lived. Probably less.

[@Torian1o1]

@@Ugly_German_Truths Even if every single person except for say 10 people would get raptured, it would still be horribly cruel. In fact, I would go further and say that if God truly loves ALL of us, every single human that ever lived should go to heaven. Including genocidal monsters like Hitler. That one would definitely be a head-scratcher, but hey "tRuE lOvE"

[@nado1908]

Honestly stuff like that is my big problem with a lot of religions, they do what they do not because they genuinely believe in it, just out of fear of eternal damnation. Do what we say or you'll regret it.

[@andycruz7039]

The bible literally says no one knows and no one will when Jesus will return. I can't believe that these people study the bible but don't seem to see this read that line in the book of Matthew which talks about the end times. Seriously

[@SennaHawx]

Plot twist: They keep predicting the end to come precisely because the end can only come when nobody predicts it.

[@joshua.merrill]

"I know he's failed before, but he's changed, now! He'll come through!"

[@Alltime2050]

Believers who study the Bible know on some level it's 99.9% bull and make it mean whatever they want. The people from the 1950s invented the end-times during the cold war when almost everyone thought a nuclear war with Russia was inevitable. They gave up on the future back then and their entire worldview is based on there not being one. If they didn't have the Bible to use as an excuse they would come up with something else.

[@lars7935]

@@SennaHawx So jesus is a SCP and evangelicals are containing him?

[@bqpahdoesstuff5123]

But, The source already has said that, Jesus did predict the end times inside the bible, talking about his generations not dying until all of the bad things happen and Jesus dies, Yet Jesus died and bad things are still happening, and yet this is not the proof of the apocalypse, therefore, it was after his generation died, and Jesus according to the source was a false prophet.

[@alguno1010101]

I love how the signs of the End of Times are stuff that happens literally all the time like war, natural disasters and general strife

[@roeyjevels]

That's the point Jesus made and every one took it the opposite of how he meant it.

[@n.h.moreno]

The fact that they "hope the end comes soon", and then they embrace "anti-vaxx theology" and "anti-science stances", which are devastatingly stupid for a society predicated on science and tech should make it so that they NEED TO BE ISOLATED from societies levers and gears.

[@kenjamarticus]

Makes me wonder if Revelations is like one giant archetype

[@irvalley]

@@n.h.moreno j

[@engineclinic]

Well, that's actually not true.

[@AuntieMamies]

Religious trauma is a very real thing.

[@JLB0880]

I was terrified of this as a child growing up too because my dad refused to “become a born again Christian”. I remember getting home from school one day and no one was home and I thought for sure I’d been “LEFT BEHIND”. Turns out my brother had fallen off the tire swing and my mom rushed him to get stitches.

[@eileensnow6153]

Once my parents and I were hanging out with the neighbors and their kids, and when our parents went across the street to see a third neighbor’s boat, the daughter and I lost our ten-year-old minds with fear.

[@trolljones4386]

As a kid there was this giant lightning storm when i was in bed and all i was thinking about how it could be the rapture happening right then and there.

[@matthewcalma8328]

Omfg THAT WAS ME. whenever no one was around me I thought I got left behind. Now I have anxiety disorders

[@Calibizaro]

I've always found it utterly ridiculous for people to WANT to see the end of the world instead of working to make it better. I asked someone once why they wanted "The Rapture" to happen, and he said because he'd like to know if he was faithful enough to get swooped up. Everyone who is in love with "The Rapture" is just plain selfish.

[@wizolufa1452]

Not just that, but they actively wish to induce the rapture (like with the whole moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem). Like isn't the rapture happen at God's own time? Why are they trying to rush it. Like God's not moving fast enough or something. It's crazy

[@greyisnthere]

There's another side of it too. I grew up in the evangelical church and was taught that you HAD to long for the rapture. To not want for it, or to be afraid of it, meant that you were faithless and weak. It's definitely a form of psychological control.

[@humboldthammer]

So MANY so poorly taught. And so many deceived by Televangelist Rapture Prophets for Hire and Evangelical Zionists. It is NOT THE END. The Vernal Equinox of 2030, marks the Beginning of the 3rd, 1000-year Days of Heaven, since Jesus was crucified in the year we now call call 30 AD. It brings the fulfilment of the resurrection (John 16: 7-15) and final judgement for the devil and dragon (Daniel 7: 9-14). But we have been told SOONER. 09/23/26 is exactly 3.5 years sooner. It's the autumn equinox of the US and the Illuminati's 250th year. 10/12/26 is 42 moons sooner. There's an Epochal eclipse a CROSS the US on April 8th 2024, when more shall be revealed to those with "eyes and ears." The rest will see only an eclipse. Exercise YOUR FAITH -- speak with THY GOD -- not THE god -- if you want to "see" anything besides an eclipse.

[@andrewharper1609]

@@humboldthammer You're wrong about a number of things. The date of the crucifixion is generally accepted as 33AD although since we have no actual record of Jesus having even lived (Pilate yes, Jesus no) we can't say for certain. Secondly Yahweh doesn't exist because earthquakes are caused by plate tectonics and winds by barometric pressure imbalances not deities. Also Yahweh occupies the same place in the Jewish pantheon as Thor and Mars, Mars is a planet not a supernatural God. So the rapture as with everything else to do with Christianity is just guff.

[@Nobody-qk4xu]

Ironically being selfish is what won't let them be raptured in the first place, talking in a hypothetical sense

[@tropezando]

Your rapture fear about your parents being taken because they weren't home reminds me of I was convinced my parents had died in a horrible accident every time I was home alone or left with siblings. It took years of abuse and neglect to build that strong fear of being alone and abandoned by my support system, so the fact that the church can do it to people on a wide scale as a matter of course is terrifying.

[@andrewharper1609]

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

[@jackalenterprisesofohio]

I just assumed I was transported into an alternate demenson.

[@PodcArne]

As many people here, reading the book of Revelations scared me big time as a child, but it wasn’t the only reason I was so afraid of the end of the world (realizing climate change is not going to stop and the planet you live in will slowly die during your lifetime will do that to you). I was so afraid of the world ending, but by now I kind of accepted it, I just hope to be able to live out my days

[@MortemArdentia]

I love how god literally told us that we will never know when the day of judgement will happen yet we still scare ourselves about when we think it’ll happen

[@xDCAxNexus]

I love how the standard for "God telling us" is assorted mythology created by, edited by, and distributed by humans. With arbitrary rulings and canon being established so that Christians today believe and act in ways that are completely contradictory to what the first Christians practiced. This isn't even unique to Christianity. It is the same with everything from Hinduism to Zoroastrianism. There will be no Judgement Day. We may simply endure and evolve until the heat death of the universe, we may simply go extinct, or many other possibilities in between.

[@MortemArdentia]

@@xDCAxNexus well tbf mostly everything that humans have made to believe in has had fantastical elements that are shared within different religions. I.e. the flood or the beginning of creation. Also couldn’t you say that every religion is different from when it first started, as they have evolved along with human understanding.

[@ericvulgate7091]

'god' has never told us anything, nor could it ever harm us in any way. It's pure make-believe.

[@MortemArdentia]

@@ericvulgate7091 this comment was made 4 months ago…

[@tempestive1]

No we don't xD scares many of us just about as much as the boogeyman living under the bed. Believing things on insufficient evidence is definitionally irrational.

[@sherrisour360]

The Rapture caused me so much unneeded anxiety and panic. I knew I was gay by the time I hit 12, and growing up in church, I knew that if the rapture happened, I'd be left behind. No family. No friends. Just pain and suffering. It caused me so much grief because I thought if I could just change, if I could just be better, then I wouldn't have to suffer.

[@wizolufa1452]

that's so fucking awful. I remember being like 7 years old and constantly terrified of going to hell. I used to think "what i blasphemed against God (unforgivable sin) and I just didn't know it? What if i'm already destined for hell?"

[@steelhammer3922]

F$@# Christianity. Doing that to children is disgusting.

[@jillyg1802]

I am so sorry you experienced this, I hope you have found peace and acceptance in being yourself and want you to know that there are many people like myself who accept you for who your are without condition we are in this with you.

[@NecrochildK]

:( I hear you there. I wasn't even aware of my sexuality and I was scared to death the Rapture would happen and I'd be left behind in the suffering.

[@zhufuedits8898]

God hates the sin not the sinner Give your heart to Jesus I promise he'll do the rest

[@frankjones4804]

My grandmother once told me, "son, god has a plan and we all have to go some time but till then enjoy your life" I follow that rule to heart.

[@DrGonzo6114]

* so i spend 1000 on blow and hookers every weekend

[@DrGonzo6114]

Wait... your grandma calls you son?

[@sonic-bb]

@@DrGonzo6114 many do. What's wrong with that?

[@helpme2401]

@@DrGonzo6114 Son is often used as an endearment term by older people to younger people, regardless of relation.

[@likira111]

I'm an atheist and this is still good advice.

[@scarlethyena2486]

One of my previous history professors was originally from Germany, and at one point I remember her mentioning that the rapture was basically a weird American thing. Because growing up in Germany, she had never heard any mention of it in churches.

[@scotch4890]

As an Israeli Jew I can’t thank you enough for bringing to light the horrors that have befallen us and my Muslim brothers due to these shenanigans. Truly my favorite channel make more videos!

[@ikecalle]

Great song about religiously held beliefs by John Mayer - kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5qpmWVsm9yXias

[@NeilCWCampbell]

I feel i should say kudos for this comment If onlymore of us saw others of different beliefs as our brothers and sisters! To the day we all realise we can agree on chicken, legumes and bread

[@melaniey.5596]

I hope you are part of the Israel citizens who criticize your government (or at least disagrees) by how they use your religion to justify their treatment and genocide of Palestinians. Please be because it’s inhumane...

[@DANINREDDY]

As opposed to your own horrors...

[@NeilCWCampbell]

@@DANINREDDY can't see where they denied here? Unless you trying the old childhood playgroup technique of whataboutry

[@Maintenance_Mark]

I had multiple scares as an indoctrinated child. Once I was carrying hunting blind materials and deer feed through the woods as a twelve-year-old boy. I lost track of the way and couldn't find the hunting area. I found my way back to the vehicles eventually but no one was there so after wandering around and yelling for about an hour I felt ridiculous when I stumbled upon my dad and his friend drinking some pepsis waiting for me. I thought I had been left behind because i found jackets on the ground at the trucks. I thought that the rapture happened which is why I couldn't find anyone. I was genuinely convinced while walking through the woods crying and praying. It was devastating and terrifying. They were laughing and asking if it was me that was yelling. I told him no it wasn't me yelling I was just taking my time.

[@BrunoMaricFromZagreb]

Shit man,I'm sorry you had to go through that.If it's any consoltation,these luddites are losing their chokehold on society,& one day your dad will be old & bedridden and you can let out all your grief on him.

[@Maintenance_Mark]

@@BrunoMaricFromZagreb thanks man you are definitely right. He died of a heart attack a few years ago but I appreciate that. He was a real prick and a hypocrite

[@Plethorality]

​@@Maintenance_Marki am sorry you were abused by your dad and his idiotic friend. I dont understand such people. What else were you going to think happened?

[@boneskulls]

this sounds traumatizing, i’m so sorry this happened to you.

[@sentient_will]

Yeah my mom really believes in this, to the point where every now and then she breaks down sobbing telling us to make sure we're right with jesus because he'll be back soon and she will have to face Him and be responsible for our salvation. Imagine what my 10 year old little brother is feeling when his mom is absolutely sobbing and frantically telling him to make sure he loves jesus or he'll be left all alone on the earth without her. Great parenting and great job christianity.

[@reckonerwheel5336]

tf that is DARK. I’m so sorry you’re being put through this

[@hackman669]

Oh haha 😄😆🤣

[@samandcarlie]

Make sure to tell your brother to not let this shit scare him. It’s not real and not going to happen.

[@sentient_will]

@@reckonerwheel5336 Sometimes its very scary, I can't wait to get out but at the same time I can't ditch my younger brothers...

[@sentient_will]

@@samandcarlie We do our best to reassure him and make sure he is okay after the whole scene!

[@haleyjeter-gf7ir]

This was so beautifully said! I too would cry and cry as a kid and repeat “please I just wanna grow up.” Being told that you could die or leave at any time. I would watch the news and cry because my mom told me Obama was the anti christ. I was TERRIFIED at night and would shake every time I heard a train horn…. Thinking it was trumpets.

[@DerSpielMann]

I was brought up with this BS. Most traumatizing event: 45 years (I was 8) ago I arrive at the house and don't find my family home. Locked out, and convinced I was left behind by the rapture I threw a brick in the window next to the front door in order to gain access to the house, judging I needed food water and shelter in these 'end times'. An hour later my parents come home. They never again forced me to attend Sunday school 😁

[@amyeck3870]

Sorry about your trauma but that’s pretty funny.

[@williamcunningham1614]

Good job

[@JohnBillow]

You've got survival skills 👌

[@dayegilharno4988]

Congratulations for your healthy instincts, though :)

[@chetleahey8944]

Honestly smart thinking for an 8 year old 😂 you adapted like a champ my parents would’ve come home and found me screaming and running in circles like a chicken without its head

[@quinnkay5673]

It’s honestly deplorable how Christians are taught to celebrate and wait eagerly for the end of the word.

[@WWZenaDo]

Someone else pointed out that it's a death cult, and I think that's an accurate description.

[@christianhlayne]

Hey, I’m a Christian and I just wanted to clear up this whole rapture mess. I do believe in the rapture. I have no clue when it will happen nor does any other Christian. But, Christians aren’t excited for the end of the world. The reason a lot of Christians are ready for the rapture is because that means we get to be with Christ for eternity. So, it not about wanting the world to end. It’s about wanting to be with God in heaven.

[@aldrichsmith]

@@christianhlayne Why do you believe in the rapture? Is it Biblical? Could you provide me with those quotes if they are?

[@christianhlayne]

@@aldrichsmith The Apostle Paul writes about it to the Corinthians as a mystery that God had hidden, but now revealed through Paul. "Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality" 1 Corinthians 15:51-53.

[@aldrichsmith]

@@christianhlayne Does the last trumpet herald the coming of the tribulation?

[@elithomas2976]

So what I’ve realized is that Doomsday Christians rooted for Thanos.. they want to be snapped..

[@wormbag80]

I-

[@bounty8438]

My youth pastor actually went on a rant about how it was bad that Thanos was villainized. He said that Hollywood was trying tomake the rapture look bad. I’m not even joking that’s why he didn’t like Infinity War. I still don’t trust his movie options to this day.

[@wormbag80]

@@bounty8438 isn't the rapture bad? I thought it was bad.....i mean....

[@bounty8438]

@@wormbag80, it isn’t for Christians as that’s when we supposedly get snatched up to heaven and all the sinners have to go through a figurative and literal hell. It’s a great fear tactic to keep existing Christians in line, but it’s harder to get unsaved people to be saved when all you do is preach doom and destruction on them.

[@wormbag80]

@@bounty8438 ohh...........how rude...

[@Crowbar_killer]

My mom has gotten worse and worse as of late with saying and believing the rapture is near, to the point that I think the “end times” are a genuine comfort to her which is….sad.

[@sergio-qt4iw]

It might be hard for some people to accept that "the world, life and humanity will continue to exist like nothing happened after I'm gone, my life and my generation was not the first nor the last, it was just one more"

[@Murkoph]

Indeed. Religions are mostly about coddling the ego and managing human fears of mortality and helplessness.

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

not if i become a dictator and start nuclear war

[@dopaminecloud]

@@Murkoph Both that and making all manner of immorality acceptable too. It's the easiest way to make an otherwise decent person commit heinous acts.

[@kyrisgaming]

look at how giddy those old folks got at calling themselves the last generation....

[@revolrz22]

I really, really don't think that's the case. This is the kind of hot take that someone just throws on the internet assured that they're going to capture the atheist demographic, which will eat up any criticism of faith no matter how out-of-the-blue the conjecture is.

[@Kermomancer]

I remember jokingly asking a coworker at the time how their apocalypse was going in 2011 on the day that Harold Camping said the world was going to end. He responded with "The apocalypse is going great! God's taken everyone without sin!"

[@melissacooper8724]

In other words no one was taken! 🤣

[@cynthmcgpoet]

I had a friend who worked at a Family Radio station, and the place was literally run like a cult. Employees had to sign documents of theological purity that winnowed out all Roman Catholics from employment. Because it was a religious organization, they got away with it.

[@dieSpinnt]

Hehe. BTW there is something wrong with your capitalism in America (not only there ...). The fairy-tales by people like Harold Camping about the end of the world is their business. They literally make their living of it (and of course of gullible or since childhood brainwashed people). So ... IF they don't keep their promises (the end of the world turns out to be a lie ...), then they should take responsibility for that too. Such as recourse and compensation for the many people whose lives have been influenced or ruined by this misinformation. I could think of even more appropriate punishments ... biblical, of course, like caning or crucifixion. The latter, of course, was a joke. Disfellowshipping these people would be the minimum. After all, they simply allow themselves to speak for God. That's enough in most cases for a nice excommunication. But as always, these scoundrels with their jets and fine suits use double standards. Well religion ... that's what they chose and that is what they deserve!

[@snuffmane93]

the source of many panic attacks during my childhood, good times

[@chrisgraham2904]

Sorry to hear that you were subjected to such child abuse.

[@chrisgraham2904]

@@coolguy082 The fact that religions have their own schools is proof that they wish to seclude and indoctrinate children or they are restricting children from thoughts and practices outside of that religion.

[@coolguy082]

@@chrisgraham2904 Finally someone who understands!

[@punkisinthedetails1470]

@@coolguy082 is that 5 year old chili a ghost pepper?

[@coolguy082]

@@punkisinthedetails1470 Nah, more of a jalapeño. Typo lol

[@greentwo6845]

It's such a great look into the worst side of any religion "The world is so full of sin, we'd rather DIE than try to help it."

[@ItsTheFizz]

The Rapture always came off to me as a power fantasy for American Evangelicalls who were growing nervous about losing Pascal's Wager...

[@teabearchurchill5600]

The Rapture as a theology began in Victorian England... it really had nothing to do with Americans. It's just that certain Evangelical churches still believe it.

[@antoniasigafus5359]

What is Pascal’s wager

[@teabearchurchill5600]

@@antoniasigafus5359 Google is your friend. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager

[@Michael-sb8jf]

Even Pascale's wager is dumb What if for example life is actually a simulation. The programmer could have said something like belief in God you get deleted

[@robertfolkner9253]

The way Pascal’s Wager is worded opens up a big hole. There isn’t any religion I know of that preaches that simply believing God exists will suffice for your salvation in the afterlife.

[@SnuubScadoob]

For people who are all about forgiveness and loving your fellow man, they’re sure excited as hell for the world to end and people to suffer.

[@paulmerritt2484]

This is not what most real Christians' believe and there is no rapture mentioned in the bible. Yes Jesus will come back and he already has in many hearts. If you read the bible you would never be afraid of this.

[@MintyLime703]

​​@@paulmerritt2484 There's plenty more we can tear to shreds that ARE in the bible. Try as you might you can't make excuses for them all. Also the idea of "real" Christians is hilariously arrogant and so completely self unaware. It's convenient, huh? Whenever someone makes a fool out of your beliefs you can just disavow them as being Christian altogether and wipe your hands of it. But the best part is that they're saying the same exact thing about you.

[@MintyLime703]

They love telling people to go to Hell as well. If you don't believe what I believe then you deserve to be tortured in unimaginable ways for eternity. One second they'll tell you Hell is the enemy and their god loves you and will forgive you no matter what, and then the next they talk about Hell like it's some dumping grounds for people they don't like.

[@buggs2024]

@@MintyLime703 drag them to filth

[@hydra70]

@@paulmerritt2484 You can't escape the fact that Christianity always has been and always will be a doomsday cult. It has been from the start. The idea that the second coming and the end of the world are imminent is fundamental Christian doctrine.

[@laurahigson8192]

All this waiting, you could say they've been holy ghosted...

[@ashleyfromresidentevil4618]

ASDHJKKJHDASDDHKJHGF LMAOOOOOOOOOO

[@Sluppie]

ouch. OUCH.

[@TheLandBeyond_Productions]

Oof

[@Nukestarmaster]

That was bad, you should feel bad.

[@laurahigson8192]

@@Nukestarmaster I asked the pun king himself, he said it was fine :)

[@ryanatkinson2978]

My grandparents have this weird thing with the rapture, like they would never admit that they thought any of it was real, but BOY did they sure talk about all the predictions a lot. I remember the 2011 one, they talked about it and it kinda scared me as a kid. They also would have us watch all the terrible History Channel shows like Ancient Aliens, and the ones leading up to 2012 and how that was supposed to be the end of the world according to the Mayan calendar. They always talked about it in a sort of "joking" way, but they would talk to us about "what ifs" a lot. So I grew up with some anxiety over that. It's weird, ESPECIALLY to put on children. Like, how do the children of these families who whole heartedly believe in this feel? Imagine your mom telling you the world was ending soon with a smile on her face

[@Schweighsr]

I think that the "Left Behind" series actually reveals what motivates this nonsense - one character tells another, "Imagine going to Heaven without having to die!" Yeah, that is what they really want - to avoid death.

[@hamsarris8341]

If death has been defeated by Jesus, that's the greatest news ever. We can escape what everyone faces, because it has been defeated by someone who was perfect.

[@jackalenterprisesofohio]

So they want to avoid death.........I want to die(not in like a suicidal way) that just means I get to Heaven faster Ran over by a car at like 18 bam into Heaven faster by like 50 something years....killed by cancer at 30 boom Heaven Death by murder at 50 blam Heaven. If not its Hell but its not like it matters I would already be there so not much to "save" myself.....and besides the second death by Lake of Fire(or was it lava) it means I can Finaly not not exist and not have to exist as my self cause i would not exist.....if I went to Hell.

[@InitialPC]

or it means they dont want to be tortured a horrendously painful death that comes with being a christian in satans world..

[@sorryifoldcomment8596]

@InitialPC Why not both?? Why did you start your comment with "or." The person wants to go to heaven without dying....and before they sin and go to hell. Human thought is a bit more complicated.

[@InitialPC]

@@sorryifoldcomment8596 because the original comment says everyone who wants to be raptured just wants to avoid death

[@GarnetHeartIllustrations]

I just feel so bad for the people obsessing about and hoping for the end times. They're living their lives for the idea of a reward sometime in the future, and meanwhile they're wasting the here and now. A life spent obsessing about something that might be and you have no impact on it, is an empty life imo :(

[@GalaxyDogenut]

Agreed.

[@GarnetHeartIllustrations]

@@whimsiquisitive if one's goal in the things they do is to continue to ensure their spot in an afterlife, they're not living life in the here and now. If your focus in life is your reservation in a place you've never been to, and likely won't go to for decades, and you have to worry about if your actions in life will screw that up, you're not living life for this life. Think of how many Christians don't care about climate change bc they believe that the world is going to end within their lifetime anyways, and how many don't even try to hear LGBT advocates and allies bc they are so determined to show their god how good and faithful they are so that they won't risk losing their spot. I've seen people talk about how we're probably in the end times, and they CELEBRATE that. Thy say its a good thing, without giving any thought to the 7 years of suffering that are supposed to happen before Jesus comes back. They don't think about the torment that people the world over will endure for seven whole years, all they're thinking about is their reward for living their lives for the "loving god" who deliberately plans things to cause suffering to people.

[@GalaxyDogenut]

@@GarnetHeartIllustrations agreed.

[@DJ5780]

@@whimsiquisitive she described it perfectly

[@austincde]

That's literally why my moms was a Trumper, now when she hears about him on the news she gets mad lol 🤣

[@octosalias5785]

Its basic psychology. You're special and everyone else is a sinner

[@johnv5276]

Another person who never read the Bible but watches Atheist videos on KZbin spreading lies The bible says we are ALL sinners, even Christians.

[@octosalias5785]

@@johnv5276 I have, actually, went to Sunday School and everything. The way I see the Bible misused every day is not that of a humble sinner, but a tool for rhetoric.

[@octosalias5785]

@@johnv5276 Revelations is a tacked on story that should be apocrypha, not part of any of the gospels, and is so vague that you could call ANYTHING the mark of the beast. ANYONE could be the whore of Babylon. ANYONE could be the Anti-Christ. And thats the point. Now the world is always ending because you can attribute these to anything, just like Nostradomus and whatever else History Channel sold you.

[@johnv5276]

@@octosalias5785 So you went to Sunday school but you think everyone else is a sinner and your not? If you not a sinner then why do you need a savior?

[@octosalias5785]

@@johnv5276 I think you misunderstand, I am saying that religion has been used as propaganda to reinforce cultural beliefs that are not necessarily in the Bible. So if you behave the way my church says you are holy and will go to heaven, and if you are different from us in any way you are going to hell, specifically the Rapture as per the topic of the video. The 'Well Im a Christian, so...' hubris that they know God, and especially Evangelicals who literally speak for God.

[@Lostforstories]

Still being happened today, still being talked by my own parents. Someone already died on purpose, killing their entire family almost because they thought the eclipse was gonna be the rapture.

[@keeferChiefer]

That’s not anything knew, there’s been many incidents of parents killing their young because they thought they were possessed or some shit. Religion has a way of heavily distorting perceptions of reality.

[@clayhamilton3551]

I had a very vivid rapture dream last night. I haven’t considered myself to be a Christian in years. I woke up freaked out thinking, fuck, what if I was wrong. Just shows how deep the fear and trauma goes in someone’s mind even after deconstructing. Christians who have these dreams consider them a sign when in reality, it’s our brain trying to work its way through traumatic fear.

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

That’s called PASCAL’s wager, and it’s considered a fallacy as people could “be wrong” about any belief system - for example do you worry (dreams as you stated are often our brains working through traumas) about not being a believing Hindu? A believing Muslim? A Buddhist? Which of the Christian denominations is the “right” one since Protestants frequently claim that Catholics (and other groups like Mormons) won’t be raptured as they don’t have the correct beliefs.

[@student40008]

Never had no dream like that. How do u know its just your brain?

[@student40008]

​@@tedinwestv Dont know if you're trolling or not but ironically enough, but as a Bible believing follower, or as the world defines ''christian'', I never had any dream like this. I had apocalyptic dreams but not the rapture in specific, also most of the apocalyptic dreams I had were b4 I knew much of the rapture or even thought about the end times at all.

[@donniepeters4569]

​@@student40008 So?

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

​@@tedinwestv if you're going to constantly ponder about something then it's only natural that you'll dream about it. 1 time i watched a zombie movie and then i dreamt about zombies

[@shootingstar3622]

I’m not even a Christian anymore and the rapture still gives me extreme anxiety. When I was little and couldn’t find my parents anywhere I would think that rapture happened and I would freak out. It’s something that’s really damaged me mentally

[@hackman669]

Remember the chicken 🐔😋

[@ConstellationEternalLucidDream]

Same- my parents weren’t the ones that brought me up with that stuff- instead id hear that from our religious relatives so a anxiety ridden child me would break down in tears and despair if it was suddenly silent in the nearby vicinity and I hadn’t heard people leaving the room 😭

[@peterpulpitpounder]

The rapture should induce joy not anxiety.

[@samandcarlie]

@@peterpulpitpounder It’s never been used to promote joy, it’s been used to scare people into faith, which is an awful thing to do. It’s not real.

[@peterpulpitpounder]

@@samandcarlie "It's never been used to promote joy" [?]. Good grief, I've been in the ministry now for over 30 years, and I can tell you that the rapture hope is the source of great joy among believers. And, remember, the rapture is simply part of the first resurrection. It's the moment when living believers are caught up to meet the Lord, along with the believing dead. It involves a reunion of the people of God. So how is this not a joyous event? And I'm reminded of the Apostle Paul's words to a group of infidels: "And why is it so hard for you to believe God can raise from the dead?" If God created the world, which He did, He certainly has the power to not only take, but to give life back again. And when it comes to scaring people, I would say that some of this is not healthy. But not all of it. In fact, the Bible says that one's approach to evangelism should be tempered by the particular person or audience at hand. It says, "Some save with compassion, while others with fear." There are things to fear in life, one of them being the day of judgment for the unrepentant sinner.

[@pikupikuseru]

I feel like the rapture is an idea people cling desperately to because they need this feeling of having an "i told you so." cause then it'd mean they made the right decision when it came to their own cognitive dissonance.

[@aurixiaispreppy7454]

exactly

[@caseythompson9561]

That's exactly how it works, if your claim is "one day the world will end" then ofcourse you're gonna be right, one day.

[@pikupikuseru]

@@caseythompson9561 that’s what is funny to me, cuz “the world will end” is vague enough that it will (most likely) always be right, one way or another. but saying the world is gonna end in some super specific, supernatural way, well it’s ridiculous. odds are 0%. people are happy to settle on that being their belief because they never have to deal with seeing it be wrong. this is why I resent prophecy, there should be no ambiguity in it. a prophecy that doesn’t tell you when it’s gonna happen will make you wait until you die. if it happens, “look I was right all along, you shoulda listened,” if it doesn’t, they just say it hasn’t happened *yet*, but we should still listen. rapture talk is exhausting to me, but then any kind of smoke and mirrors talk like that is exhausting. You realize very quickly the person doesn’t care about what’s true or likely to be true, they just have an idea they really like, and they build everything they say around that. wow I really wrote a tl;dr, well I appreciate anyone who read this far lol! have a good day :’)

[@pickledragonrebel]

@@pikupikuseru loved what you wrote and yea I read it to the end.

[@melissacooper8724]

I feel like The Rapture is people's idea to escape the hardships of life but they don't want to kill themselves out of fear of going to Hell. Yes life itself can suck sometimes and it's okay to hope for the future, but the whole Rapture idea is a bit extreme.

[@Pfincess]

I don't know what everyone else says, but I think T posing squidward is right. "August 12 2036 heat death of the universe"

[@emilybrown3689]

I've always had this little idea in my head to help me cope with anxiety (people talking about the rapture used to trigger major panic attacks for me) that someone guesses the actual date, and Jesus just throws his arms up and is all, "well, now I'm not gonna do it". The idea soothes the anxiety.

[@commandery3574]

same, used to trigger major, deathly painful and raw pure anxiety for me. like for real. now that i’m older, my brain can go, “well that idea is a bit silly and is actually traumatizing in nature so maybe i should or pay attention to it”

[@revanche1431]

As an atheist I don't believe the deity in the bible is real, but I became an atheist by studying the bible and yeah there's a verse that says pretty much exactly that: 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. The Day and Hour Unknown 36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. - Matthew 24:35-37

[@lucalinadreemur9448]

Also something that helped me, is that the signs of the end times (plagues, famine, wars and rumors of war) are literally just a summary of the entirety of human history. Rapture peddlers like to say we're in more war conditions than ever; might I direct you to the two world wars. We're nowhere near those levels. Seriously, if you can stomach it without an anxiety attack, look into the conditions of world war 1, and as for ww2, we literally unleashed the power of the sun in Japan twice, after pretty much everything that wasn't the Americas or Australia was practically ravaged to the ground. As for covid, it's still not nearly as bad as some of the plagues mankind has fought off before.

[@SingingMermaid4]

I did that too!

[@Zvwry]

😭😭

[@mjallen1308]

If you’re ever on a plane, let’s hope our pilot and co-pilot are gay, atheist, poker players... I just want to make sure that, in the event of the rapture, they’ll remain on the plane for sure. Being atheist should be a mandate for pilots. EDIT: Thank you guys for all the likes/comments/replies/responses/etc ❤️

[@kenbee1957]

A gay atheist pilot would be awesome at poker

[@jodypalm303]

LOL! Good thinking!

[@jackalenterprisesofohio]

Well according to my "rendition" of The Faith Gay people and poker players can still fo to Heaven Why you may ask The *BIBLE* specficaly (in some wording differences) says "...anyone who belives in Chirst...........will go to Heaven...." and ".....Be KIND TO everyone the same way....." That's why I've always though why some Christians are so prejudice when the *Bible* says to preach and treat everyone as you would yourselves..........like why is it that specficaly gay people won't go to Heaven are you telling me they would not got to Heaven when they Belive in God even though It says "....anyone who(same thing from before)...." I mean there are many parts of the Bible where those "you won't go to Heaven because I say so" people were saved(as in not die) Rebecca (the prostitute) from that Jericho story.....and that other prostitute who(was it wash His[Jesus] feet with perfume) washed His feet was not condemned(as in "saved"[as in Jesus was ok with it]) and that one criminal who was killed with Jesus...which Jesus told "...As in on this day you will be with me in Heaven...." So by saying these "people with sin" will not go to Heaven is what I always though was wrong....like you're telling me since they committed sin....they are not allowed into the Church......THE same BUILDING where one learns about Christ......like how are we supposed to tell gays about Chirst if we just shun them......thinm about it which person do you think the gay is going to listen to(as in listen about christian-ism)....the Preacher who shuns gays and wants them killed or the neighbor who doesnt mind they are gay My God. (God) are so many Christians Dense......

[@kenbee1957]

@@jackalenterprisesofohio Sounds unnecessarily convoluted.... You have a "rendition" of the faith?

[@mjallen1308]

@@kenbee1957 correction: his “interpretation”

[@DimaRakesah]

I remember when I was a kid I found it so odd that God supposedly created the earth and humans and made us all try to figure out how to worship him correctly so we could go to heaven only to one day randomly decide he was bored or something and just end the game.

[@DoctorPhileasFragg]

He hasn't gotten randomly bored of it yet, but he knows he will! He knows everything!

[@mountainhun]

Or condemning 99.98% of humanity to hell for being born before Jesus even existed.

[@anonymus_knight4417]

Honestly it just feels like we are all in a very weird fantasy book (with interesting worldbuilding tho) and have to slay yet another evil god who is manipulating his believers and wants to have the controll over the entire world... think about it with other words and it all becomes completely insane.

[@octoberviberations233]

Welcome to our egotistical God Man old testimate does bring me some nightmares.

[@zhentable]

@@anonymus_knight4417 So a Persona game

[@trulsdirio]

Man, I'm so dam close to just saying "f it, I'll ruin my reputation by making some weird religious prophecy, milk that for a couple of years and then enjoy life as a rich man afterwards".

[@DaroriDerEinzige]

I was raised in a catholic household in a deeply catholic Area - And the rapture was even laughed at kinda by the Priests with the remark "We Humans probaly destroy the world before God could even think about it.". There are simple more pressing matters in the Bible and in Life.

[@tempestvenator9809]

You're priest's remark made me chuckle a bit. We humans are so obsessed with the end of the world that we'll probably try to bring it about, only for God to intervene and make sure we don't succeed.

[@DaroriDerEinzige]

@@tempestvenator9809 But, from a religious point of view, would he be for a God if he would intervene? I mean, he gave us Freedom of Will - After over 5000 Years of documented Human History, we aren't "Childs" anymore as a Species, are we? So which right do we have do demand that God on the one Hand should let us make our own Decision but on the other Hand he has to "whipe our Ass's"? That strikes me at many Atheists and overly religious People - They are either frustrated that God doesn't "clean your life of all challenges" or blame some random thing for all the "bad" in the world. But even if we would take the Bible as a 1:1 Book, it's kinda clear that God granted us the Earth and maybe the whole Universum to grow - To develop ourselfs. All the "Bad" things are in our reach and might to change. It isn't like Cancer (Which is always put forth as either "Something bad God did to us / shouldn't have put here if he's so full of love" or as "Punishment for a lack of belief / Challenge in our life to question our belief") would be an illness which we couldn't ever treat nor heal. Actually, we got all the Tools to better ourselfs, the world and defeat "all evil there is" - And to prove that, we just have to look around us. Humanity already defeated so many Challenges, in a World filled with Wonders you can observe everyday in a Galaxy so bright that every night you could fall in love with it again. There's so much beauty, in the most simpliest and most complex things around us and we're free to explore and understand them everyday. Personally, I think that's is pretty much the short version of what Nietzsche wanted to say even with his "God is dead, and we are his Murderers" - Nietzsche was Son of a Priest, growin' up and wittness the rise of probaly the most evil part of History of Germany. We killed God, because we made him "Human" - With desires we as Humans could fullfill, ideals we projected on to him and demands he had to fullfill for us. So we constructed a "Slave Moral", solely based on our weaknesses. Only if we accept that there's no sense in it, we can grow to something bigger because then we're forced to put our own sense to it. To "become Gods" of our own because only then, we may can grasp the reality, only then we're may able to understand it truly and only then we're may worthy of Gods attention and love. ... Sorry, Wall of Text but I liked the Religion Lessons back in School, they were often pretty open and most Teachers were pretty heavy into Philosophy.

[@ectofriend]

I was raised in a Catholic home and even went to Catholic school, and I specifically remember that if The Rapture was ever brought up, it was always in the context of a joke. My religion teacher was a nut job, but even he thought the Rapture was dumb.

[@KekoKasane]

@@ectofriend the only saving grace to being catholic (or ex catholic)

[@JackgarPrime]

Yeah its really crazy the differences between different forms of Christianity. I was also raised catholic, and the more I've learned about evangelicals in this country, the more relieved I am that I didn't grow up with thay. At least as a catholic I would only focus on hurting myself in penance, as opposed to hurting others to fulfill prophecy!

[@larzengquist922]

This channel is super underrated

[@pattyboi1868]

Yeah I'm astonished by how little subscribers he has.

[@2shadowgamer2]

Agree! He needs more views!

[@ayoitsdrago704]

Facts bro ultra underated

[@ephraimduke]

This channel was recommended to me about 3 days ago and I’ve been binge watching/ listening to their podcast and video essays . I absolutely agree .

[@susanmaggiora4800]

Bruce Kent Same, just subbed & have watched like 4 videos in a row

[@daviddaugherty2144]

I appreciate how you highlighted the effects that this has on Palestinians. It seems like the American church has simply written off that entire people group as unworthy of existence. It brings me to my knees as someone trying to follow Jesus and unable to reconcile with our churches' embrace of horrors akin to genocide.

[@Yabbaxoraz]

Yeah but it bothers me that he claimed that it has a negative effect on the jews, when they actually only benefit from this. They get free money, all because some of them sponsored the Scofield Bible 150 years ago.

[@f1shwhiskerz]

Oh this video predicted things huh.

[@perhaps1094]

​@@f1shwhiskerzThe Israeli Palestinian conflict has been ongoing since the creation of Israel in the late 40s, this is not the first war and it certainly won't be the last

[@jenniie_333]

@@perhaps1094thats not the point. Whether you believe it’s a war or not, evangelicals have actually been waiting for time like this, fully supporting Israel’s occupation of Palestine and the decimation of its people. They don’t care about Jewish or Muslims though, they want Israel.

[@Amanda-C.]

What do you mean "akin to"? Just because nobody's calling it what it is, doesn't mean it isn't. Genocide has been the clear intent and actions of Israeli political leaders for decades now.

[@potatoman7594]

people have been saying the worlds gonna end in every single generation for the past 5000 years. its part of life to expect it to end.