The Raven Queen's lore is so fascinating! I feel like Matt Mercer and the Critical Role cast had a lot to do with garnering interest in her as a deity.
@ToastyTstdToast5 жыл бұрын
I'd bet money on it, that last farewell before she takes vax was some of the best story telling I've ever seen.
@Slightly_Irish_Mach5 жыл бұрын
For HexBlade Warlocks is the Raven Queen a patron
@thefracturedbutwhole54755 жыл бұрын
@@Slightly_Irish_Mach she could be
@Xel9635 жыл бұрын
also would say the same of The Adventure Zone... Know my enjoyment of Raven Queen came from her ties with the Death of Balance's campaign
@sirachxi39184 жыл бұрын
she was not the most interesting person in the 4ed and i think there was a little about her in 3.5 but she has had a good following in the past
@scottbruckner46534 жыл бұрын
So she acts like a raven taking anything shiny and pecks at it, sometimes bringing it back to her neat.
@Athorell96 жыл бұрын
Y'all got any of that uhhhhhhh, Feywild?
@reubenfromow48546 жыл бұрын
Athorell9 you’re soooo right I don’t think that wizards has made a feywild adventure for like, thirty years lol
@ch00p6 жыл бұрын
YAAAAS! Everyone's been thirsty for more Raven Queen lore, but my warlock/sorcerer bats for Team Queen of Air and Darkness
@roswynn54846 жыл бұрын
QoA&D is great, I'd love more new material about her.
@scottbruckner46534 жыл бұрын
Ain't no feywild around here bucko. Anti-Feywild only.
@theaeon3 жыл бұрын
@@ch00p my blood hunter/warlock has set out to vanquish her for the raven queen so uh... we might have a conflict of interests there
@stevehoyle28026 жыл бұрын
Her origin story from one of my campaigns is that she was Erandis Vol that Ascended to a god-like being. She started the campaign doing work for the Blood of Vol and it was all designed for Erandis trying to regain her actual life. The Shadar-kai are actually her entire retinue of elves of Illmarrow that were transformed when the ritual that was supposed to bring her back to normal life transformed her into beyond death and undeath itself.
@Jeromy19866 жыл бұрын
I thought The Raven Queen was more like a Grave Domain deity who disliked undeath.
@TimeturnerJ3 жыл бұрын
I know that that's how TAZ Balance (and, to some extent, Critrole too) portrayed her, but it's really rather ironic - she isn't Grave Domain at all, but rather Death Domain. So much for not associating with un-death, I guess...
@elbruces3 жыл бұрын
Kinda, sure, if that's how you want your campaign to do it.
@Micaerys3 жыл бұрын
She could be, right? The domains are kinda general, so several gods can fit in their categories. For the Raven Queen Death and Grave are very logical choices, I think
@dungeonmaster98006 жыл бұрын
This has some pretty big implications about the nature of the Shadowfell. Before it was always treated like the Feywild and Shadowfell were kind of mirror-planes existing alongside the material plane of whatever setting you were using. So going with Forgotten Realms for example, you'd have the Feywild, Toril, and then the Shadowfell. The geography of one would be similar to the geography of the other, but could have differences based on what happened in that specific plane of existence. So for instance, if the Terrasque would destroy a mountain or something on Toril, that mountain would still probably exist on the Feywild and the Shadowfell. But the way Mearl's describes the Raven Queen as some kind of interplanar being that exists across settings and rules over the Shadowfell, it seems like they've switched gears a bit, making the Shadowfell from all different realities kind of exist together. So conceivably, one could enter the Shadowfell on Toril, and then somehow find an exit to another world, like Athas (Dark Sun) or Nerath (Nentire Vale).
@Millstone19856 жыл бұрын
The way I would make this work is that there is one Material Plane that contains the worlds of Krynn, Oerth and Toril, and one Shadowfell that similarly contains Shadow-Krynn, Shadow-Oerth and Shadow-Toril. Some locations in the Shadowfell, such as the Domains of Dread or the city of the Raven Queen, would however be found on every shadow-world, surrounded by strange mists.
@ZYR476 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that how the Shadowfel/Plane of Shadow worked in 3.5e though? Even if not, they sort of already did that by placing Ravenloft in the Shadowfel now. The whole domains of dread and the dark powers are now for some reason placed into the Shadowfel. Wouldn't that put them UNDER the Raven Queen? That bugs me. Not only that, but the Domains of Dread are gathered portions of lands from several material planes, so if they're in the Shadowfell, which Material Plane is that that houses them? I think separating it into a material but disconnected plane is the way to go given all of this, but it's still kind of a big change. Since the Dark Powers like to manipulate souls they find worthy or unworthy, that makes me worry that the Raven Queen is either behind them, or is one of them. I'm slightly more ok with her being one of them but in either case I hope they stay mysterious and unnamed.
@jammygitz6 жыл бұрын
There seems to be quite a muddled/ crowded mythology here. There is Kelemvor (god of the dead), Myrkul (god of death), with the raven queen seeming to fulfill a niche role surrounding life/ death as well. I liked the Critical Role interpretation which focused strongly on her hatred of unnatural necromancy because she governs both death (transition) and fate. Plus she has a cool aesthetic.
@docnevyn58146 жыл бұрын
Read the SCAG it's even more muddled with the Scribe of Death replaced by three gods that are in turn replaced by Kelemvor
@SuperWoodgod6 жыл бұрын
They used to be setting specific (and Myrkul is dead, unless something's changed). They might be mixing things from different settings up now, but It's not exactly new to have two or more gods representing the same thing anyway. When that happens there's usually a struggle for power or they take care of separate aspects of their domain. If they're mixing the pantheons, it's understandable that they'd remove the undead hatred focus, since Kelemvor already did that is is much older and better developed.
@Millstone19856 жыл бұрын
Dr TBS -- Myrkul is back, actually, as is Bhaal.
@SuperWoodgod6 жыл бұрын
Knew about Bhaal, but its the first I've heard of Myrkul being back. Must have missed that.
@ddddoc70782 жыл бұрын
She reminds me of an Anubis figure more than a real world Hades, Devil, Satan. Very neutral about the whole process
@abouttime8376 жыл бұрын
huh that’s interesting I thought she was the “don’t let liches and the like cheat death” entity not the curious meddling entity
@adamroquemore64106 жыл бұрын
A T yeah, the adventure zone misuses a LOT of official dnd lore (not that it’s any worse for it.)
@marcloure6 жыл бұрын
In 4th edition she indeed loathed undeath, many feats related to her cult was about destroying undeads.
@ch00p6 жыл бұрын
I believe the "don't let liches cheat death" thing is pretty much handled by Kelemvor and his Doomguides now
@mega176 жыл бұрын
4E and prior lore is naturally going to get updated. Hating undeath while allowing resurrection does in fact imply curiosity, and now we're seeing a more explicit confirmation.
@jammygitz6 жыл бұрын
mega17 yep. In 4E her followers commandments include: Bring down the proud who try to cast off the chains of fate. Watch for the cults of Orcus (demon prince of undead) and stamp them out whenever they arise.
@papaluisre6 жыл бұрын
My only wish is for WotC to revisit The Raven Queen Warlock pact. I’m playing one right now and it’s been super fun but we have made some adjustments to it. I’d love to see an official release sometime soon
@sirc936 жыл бұрын
Well, if they're gonna talk about her in MToF, maybe it will be in their. Probably not, but it's fun to dream, right?
@colbynelson27606 жыл бұрын
Luis de la Vega What kind of adjustments have you made?
@MetaKaios6 жыл бұрын
I would also like to know.
@Narfwak6 жыл бұрын
Hexblades are implied to be kinda sorta serving the Raven Queen in XGtE, but I get what you mean
@DavidCruickshank6 жыл бұрын
i know right, it's awesome.
@TheJuicyTangerine6 жыл бұрын
5th edition has been pretty dead silent on the Raven Queen so far. Up until XGtE, I don't think we've even had a mention of her. The Raven Queen popped up in XGtE when describing a potential patron for Hexblade Warlocks, but not much else is touched on. I really hope MToF covers more about her, so that we can get some 5e canonical information on her.
@d-m-n6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Tang the DMG has her included in the "dawn war deities" table (pg. 10)
@D-structman6 жыл бұрын
D.M. N. Precisely, and that was all the information given on her
@mega176 жыл бұрын
MToF will definitely cover her more, this is obviously just a brief overview and teaser, but RQ is SUPPOSED to be mysterious. That said, Raven Queen isn't a potential patron in XGtE - She is the puppeteer behind one of the Hexblades, so your warlock should just be dealing with the sentient Hexblade and never even get a word from RQ. It's only a nod to the Raven Queen patron in UA - The Hexblade is the Patron, it's powerful enough for that.
@TheJuicyTangerine6 жыл бұрын
If a sentient blade is fashioned by the Raven Queen, one would suggest that the blade is somewhat loyal to the Raven Queen, wouldn't you think so? So I guess it's indirectly deriving powers from the Raven Queen, if you know what I mean. I'm also hoping that MToF will feature the Raven Queen more, but they didn't really mention it at all in this video.
@cyruselvcelare22786 жыл бұрын
Raven Queen was first "officially" introduced in UA: Warlocks & Wizards as an actual Warlock patron (a mixed bag at that). Even still, not a lot of information is displayed about her. At the very least, powerful enough that the almighty Wizards debated making her a patron option. That said, I still very much want that to be refined into an official patron just like Hexblade was.
@Neverfate6 жыл бұрын
No mentions of Revenants :( Always liked them in 4E since they were the RQ's champions she would forge from restless souls. Her own squad of undead Terminators
@gambent68536 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they were super awesome for that reason!
@ShaunTopofThings6 жыл бұрын
This is perfect. I just made a Shader Kai Assassin, that preys the the Raven Queen, a few weeks ago :)
@ArBee1236 жыл бұрын
*rocks back and forth* Thats not my lore, thats not my lore, thats not my lore...
@theirishviking92786 жыл бұрын
Quothcraft as someone building a campaign based around long life i feel you buddy
@bongibot11045 жыл бұрын
then just don't use that lore, talk to your DM lol. for all purposes, I could make the Raven Queen a total drama queen that laughs at her servants, Up to the game.
@elbruces3 жыл бұрын
That's cool, run your campaign however you want.
@SuperWoodgod6 жыл бұрын
I understand people complaining about her being different from her 4e version, but people complaining about her not having her Critical Role traits should realize that Matt Mercer's world is a homebrew setting. Regarding the "she hates undead" thing, just because Mike Mearls didn't mention it here doesn't mean that it's gone, and if it is, there's always Kelemvor who did that long before RQ.
@GuardianofTwilight5 жыл бұрын
Really the Raven Queen from 4e couldn't fit in into Forgotten Realms. All of her portfolios are already held by other gods.
@InternetShis6 жыл бұрын
Currently the main figure of my goliath Blood Hunter’s pact of the Hexblade. Killing undead in exchange for Winter winds to end the heat wave cursing the rest of the goliath’s herd
@EElysium964 жыл бұрын
The Raven queen the most shrouded character in d&d multiverse Lady of pain:yes
@GUNNSsheep6 жыл бұрын
-sees the title- That's my girl! That's my girl!!!
@dontaskme35614 жыл бұрын
Jacki Lynn wonder what she would think of shar XD
@Kaipyro67ALT6 жыл бұрын
Matt Mercer's Raven Queen is a much better version of the character. Less mysterious, more benevolent, able to have a conversation and communion with. She's cool.
@thefracturedbutwhole54755 жыл бұрын
I like the Raven Queen better as a Deity/cosmic entity shrouded in mystery and inscrutable, Matt Mercer's take was cool and all but in my opinion it took all the juice out her and made her . . . kind of boring, his Pelor and Vecna were incredible though.
@Ziaotic2 жыл бұрын
@@thefracturedbutwhole5475 years late i know but she is entirely still shrouded in mystery in Matt's version. all we know is that she watches fate and guides the transition between life and death.
@ChristianD_Avionics6 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite god like entity has to be the Pale Night. She came from another universe that ended and she was at the start of this universe. She creates monsters with a twitch of her finger and so hideous reality itself rejects her true image. She so fascinating to me. I would love to know more about her.
@normanobrien40856 жыл бұрын
Love these videos, thanks Mike!
@drowjack6 жыл бұрын
Feywild and its courts please
@NetoD206 жыл бұрын
YAAAAAAASSS!!! Bring Queen Titania, King Oberon, Princess Verenestra, and Queen Mab into the fold!
@scoots2916 жыл бұрын
This would be a subject I would love to see in 5e lore
@drowjack6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had part of my Campaign in the Feywild and i had to do a extense research about it it wasn't that bad but hopefully we get more details on the new book
@roboxthephantom3 жыл бұрын
Yuuuup, we need this A.S.A.P. please
@jacobdriscoll82766 жыл бұрын
I feel like her and the Lady of Pain might be BFFs.
@fullmetalgoblingames6 жыл бұрын
If the Lady of Pain or Sigil are in that book, I would have to choke back some tears of joy.
@andya98996 жыл бұрын
This unbearable mary-sued ripoff would be mazed in a second
@cory967776 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they've elected to thematically adapt the Lady to the Raven Queen. I sure hope not.
@raspberrypie17066 жыл бұрын
Andy A I had no clue if you were talking about the Lady or the Raven Queen until the 4th last word of your sentence. The LoP is perhaps the most overrated and boring deity in any DnD verse, who people only find interesting because she get's cool points just for being in the planescape setting.
@cory967776 жыл бұрын
ᛋᛋatania She's the font of pain, an intangible, abstract thing that only exists in the mind, even in D&D. Planescape, the Lady included, in much more than "cool points." With the possible exception of Dark Sun, it's the most adult and involved of settings. You can dive deeper in Planescape than anywhere else, and it's not because of the infinite planes; it's because of their finite nature. It's because the center of everything is a really just a mundane ring. Planescape constantly reminds you that that which is important is only because you make it so. With all due respect, I think you're missing the point of the Lady. Pain is futile. So is everything else.
@quintinsteevessenior55686 жыл бұрын
What is her connection to the Darkpowers and the Mists of Ravenloft?
@abouttime8376 жыл бұрын
I would be really excited for more Fey stuff!
@lordkira97916 жыл бұрын
I always consider Raven Queen to be a curious, relatively-young ruler who is LN
@charleshernandez43496 жыл бұрын
Feywild and it's courts Hexblade patron options Please
@dmsphylactery78946 жыл бұрын
One thing I love about the DnD cannon is that you can steal ideas and if your players say anything well its not stealing an idea, its just using the already established cannon.
@MaskofFayt6 жыл бұрын
So we might be getting shadar kai (sp)? If so, my edge lord player is gonna love that race.
@davos61296 жыл бұрын
The rules for Shadar-Kai were already in november's UA as an elf subrace
@comisanimus92106 жыл бұрын
This Raven Queen sounds very different from Mathew Mercer's interpretation of her.
@Akeche6 жыл бұрын
Mainly because there's already a God of Death in Forgotten Realms via Kelemvor, and he's a pretty righteous dude as far as Death Gods go.
@JacksonBockus6 жыл бұрын
That’s one of the fun things about D&D. Everyone gets to put their own spin on things. Your Raven Queen can be a goddess, mine can be an Archfey, someone else’s might be something else entirely.
@GlacialScion6 жыл бұрын
Matt Mercer's Exandria cosmology seems to be simplified and streamlined. I like it quite a lot, personally.
@brycenerdstrom5676 жыл бұрын
It's also a really massive change from the interpretation of her in previous stuff. Matt's is much closer to her original description.
@brycenerdstrom5676 жыл бұрын
But she could have been a minor psychopomp figure still, without the weird BS of her meddling in the proper course of death, and just this completely different take on her that might as well be an entirely new entity.
@MBCGRS3 жыл бұрын
"The Universe of D&D is the struggle between Law and Chaos... But She is neither.. She is something in between"... So.... Neutral then.
@abouttime8376 жыл бұрын
damn those cosmic entities meddling with forces better left alone
@NetoD206 жыл бұрын
Elves! Talk about the elves! Will we have Greyhawk's gray elves covered in Mordenkainen's Tomb of Foes?
@shadoww48186 жыл бұрын
First campaign I even did was in 4th edition when Orcus was the go-to bad guy on the front of the monster manual and I had us fighting all sorts of undead to gain at her behest (the party never choice her as it's patron, she kinda chose us, especialyl one character who was a revenant.) As this was going on I kept the "Heroes of Shadows" close to my heart. Played a race and class from it and reread the "keepers of the Everflow" paragon path again and again so when my party was told to fight Orcus 2/3s of the way through the campaign i instead had him explain that the whole undead thing is just him keeping souls from the Raven Queen so she cant turn them into her personal army, and in actuality He wanted the party's help to fight her and restore the Cycle of Reincarnation.
@AkeelaTheGhost6 жыл бұрын
That's a neat take on it. Kinda turns the whole "Orcus is the KING OF EVIL" thing on it head. Less black and white, more grey. Even if he was lying about it, it adds some cool ambiguity to the campaign.
@shadoww48186 жыл бұрын
It was both really. He was did envy her throne but he also saw himself as the good guy in dethroning her. Of course RQ killed him right before the final battle but that just made more room for us
@sanguiniusszuiriel49843 жыл бұрын
I’d love to run the raven queen as the Dorian grey meets Baron Von Zarovich meets Entreri
@sixzrazky11296 жыл бұрын
The Raven Queen reminds me of the celtic goddess The Morrigan.
@brycenerdstrom5676 жыл бұрын
I hate this "she doesn't keep it, she meddles with it" thing. Like, why would you flip one of her defining traits? This is like giving Batman a sword and making him not scare people.
@Suffering4Success6 жыл бұрын
I swear shadar kai have human origins, somewhat tied to netheril..?
@brycenerdstrom5676 жыл бұрын
In FR they are tied to Netheril, but in the 4e implied setting they are just tied to the Shadowfell and RQ. either way, they were descended from humans in 4e, and were just Fey (but not elves) before that.
@toshomni94786 жыл бұрын
I don't see why they couldn't be former humans or former elves since they are something different from either anyway. Elves really don't need yet another subrace though.
@xderyck416 жыл бұрын
Some of the 4e are human, but the 3e shadar kai which were the first ones were fey like creatures, the ones he speaks in the video are the 3e one, which are old as fk, as old as the Raven Queen, the Human Shadar kai from 4e came from the spellplague, not that old
@gabe4u222 жыл бұрын
Well, if you know anything about the raven queen and vecna. The raven queen will be in the next season of stranger things.
@adaenis6 жыл бұрын
What about Shar, who created the Shadowfell by merging the remnants of the Negative Energy Plane into the Plane of Shadow when it collapsed? This seems to be overlooked heavily here, especially since my understanding was that The Raven Queen was a grayhawk deity...
@swbaxter136 жыл бұрын
She's not a Greyhawk deity, she's from the 4e implied setting (what Mike Mearls is referring to as "the world of Nentir Vale" in this video), which had no set world. Those gods are listed in the 5e DMG as the "Dawn War" pantheon, and feature mix of deities from various sources (some Greyhawk, some FR, some original).
@davos61296 жыл бұрын
Shar is Forgotten Realms, Raven Queen is Nentir Vale(which is kinda Greyhawk). And yes, Shar created the Shadowfell, but the RQ would just rule it(maybe after she took it from Shar). In the end it's up to WotC if, and how they want to rewrite the "canon" lore of their settings. Everything else is left up to the DM.
@brycenerdstrom5676 жыл бұрын
Shar only exists in FR, Raven Queen is a core diety in the Dawn War pantheon. This is also an egregiously terrible take on her.
@krzyrzak4566 жыл бұрын
It kinda sucks when you are roleplaying as her cleric and one of your party members dies.
@sammcgurran81424 жыл бұрын
I tend to think of her as Mab and the Feywild/Shadowfell as Summer/Winter.
@cageygolem6 жыл бұрын
During the critical role campaign ran by Matthew Mercer The Raven Queen was my favorite goddess so much so when my half-orc fighter died and we were looking for a means to bring them back I brought the Raven Queen to my DM who was also my cousin and so he would be brought back as a hexblade warlock multi-class but it quickly went to a place I did not care for he was playing the Raven Queen too dark and too villainous to where I want it out of the deal to the point where am I now half-orc fighter is now a paladin for Corellon Larethian ain't that crazy a half-orc worshipping the king of the Elven gods. we'll see how it pans out what's my characters out of his coma.
@saintpoli68004 жыл бұрын
I thought she was the one who knows and determines your death, and loathes those who deny their destiny, not that she’s just curious about certain people. I don’t know if it’s okay, but I’m gonna stick with my description of her.
@juanmojicajr.11634 жыл бұрын
I’m pumped to worship her!
@rabbidowl12355 жыл бұрын
i know its a big part of her story, but i really wish we could know her name as a mortal
@GuardianofTwilight5 жыл бұрын
I heard that it was Suzanne
@shaderunner82206 жыл бұрын
favorite deity EVER! at least her interpretation as a Goddess of Death. the fact that shes against undeath of any form, and takes it upon herself to make sure people who die stay dead, made her a fantastic deity for certain characters. ive used the UA raven queen warlock in a game, and it lasted much longer than i expected. i was glad it did, cause that was one of the most fun characters i had ever played. my dm also did an amazing job portraying the raven queen, so there was that. while we do have the grave domain cleric, i wouldnt mind getting a refined raven queens warlock, or something similar.
@MrJethroha5 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer have the Shadowfell and the Raven Queen as the default after life for mortals because it's more in-line with most mythological underworlds. Most people go to just this kind of dull place where their spirits exist for eternity, while really special (evil or good or just impressive) people go to a special location. I reimagine the Shadowfell as more like the Kingdom of the Dead from Egyptian mythology.
@GuardianofTwilight5 жыл бұрын
In the Realms Kelemvor is the god who fits that description.
@grozwald6 жыл бұрын
Whoa, the Shadar-kai are elves now?
@RKMC_BRONKO-685 жыл бұрын
So the raven queen is a shut in. Cool
@meerkatx6 жыл бұрын
Nah, even more shrouded in mystery is the Lady of Pain, protector of Sigil.
@Kizzy-qb9si6 жыл бұрын
How does the wood elves and high elves view the raven queen?
@doctorbrainenstein29732 жыл бұрын
I'm confused. Every video says she's only existed since 4th edition, but that can't be right. I've multiple characters and notes from games in 3rd edition when it was young, about 18 years(?) ago. References to Shadowfell And Raven Queen appear in 3rd. Not clearly and explicitly defined certainly but it's there.
@talscorner36966 жыл бұрын
When I was about to like the video, I noticed it was 666 likes. I almost didn't press the like button not to spoil the beauty of such moment.
@Audiotrocious6 жыл бұрын
She had so much lore in 4E
@firegem32804 жыл бұрын
I found out all this and more from a wiki site....
@PrimeSonic6 жыл бұрын
Why didn't Mike mention that The Raven Queen's origins were in 4th edition?
@Millstone19856 жыл бұрын
He mentioned the world of Nentir Vale, though.
@cipherstrife19916 жыл бұрын
Bring Greyhawk back! The Forgettable Realms are lame.
@kitanaedenian25756 жыл бұрын
The warlock's pact with her is awesome! ! You could realease an unhearted arcana about Warlocks pact with it but improved. I see the Raven's Quenn as Raven from Teen Titans. Are we going to get D&D 6?
@BigJono216 жыл бұрын
D&D doesnt like to put out new editions too often. 4e didnt last long b it wasnt popular. They still have more prewritten adventures coming out, plus Mordenkainens Tome of foes isnt even out yet. itll be at least a decade due to 5es popularity.
@thestripedmenace6 жыл бұрын
WotC has confirmed that they intend to revisit all of the D&D's multiverse settings in 5e before even thinking of making a prospective 6e a thing, so you'd better wait three decades or so, pal ;)
@kitanaedenian25756 жыл бұрын
Zillion Taborda Omg hahaha. I love the 5 edition but I feel like the monk and the warlock still incomplete .
@bacchus80816 жыл бұрын
I can't see how the warlock is incomplete. It has sub-classes that range a huge variaty of Patron's now, they can be a pure caster\ gish or support, have lore and story hooks for any personal flavor you want to add and are mechanics-wise one of the more broken of all classes, with their crazy EB scaling, short rest resets and how easily they can abuse all the good feats.
@kitanaedenian25756 жыл бұрын
Bacchus probaly it's their book of shadows it should be improved with more magic and stuff. And I think they have few spell slots l, yeah they get all of them in a short rest but you never have that time during a season. And I think they should get at list two mistic arcana .
@fhuber75075 жыл бұрын
Played not quite right in Critical Role... The god of ensuring people die WHEN IT IS THEIR TIME. would be very much against any undead and it is really stretching things to have her make her"champion" (paladin) into an undead for any reason. Sending a soul back for raise dead, resurrection or revivify is far different from sending one back as a revenant. Putting the soul back in a body brought back to actual life is indicating the Raven Queen thought it was not really their time to die... yet. Also note that ALL of the spells for bringing some one back from death require the spirit to be willing. You can't force them. some specifically say "a willing spirit" Its implied for the others.
@thegingersheep6 жыл бұрын
I was looking up the Shadar-Kai today and everything I find talks about them being human or human like except the UA stuff and what Mike said. I don't know why people assumed they were human or human like. Unless there was something in the past that described them like that.
@evanhaukenfrers47656 жыл бұрын
In previous editions they were humans altered by the shadowfel (4e) or general fey with no real connection to elves (3e). The sudden change to elf subrace from both previously established lore sources is bugging a lot of people.
@thegingersheep6 жыл бұрын
Yea I just read an article about the change. Most of my play has been modified 2e so I didn't really know much about them.
@skorgevondoom___95715 жыл бұрын
I have A Eladrin blood hunter who serves the raven queen in exchange for some....Things...lol
@LordBrittish6 жыл бұрын
The Shadar-kai are the descendants of Netheril. They’re not specifically elves.
@geraldkramer91726 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the Raven Queen try to interfere when Acererak activated the Atropal in Tome of Annihilation?
@serigraph736 жыл бұрын
whats with the weird cropping?
@DuplicitousDark4 жыл бұрын
We need Mawr female death gods.
@SixAddams Жыл бұрын
My girlfriend wants to be the Raven Queen.
@LolaCopacabanita Жыл бұрын
I WILL BE THE RAVEN QUEEN! ..ps: I love you.
@Ramschat2 жыл бұрын
Why are Shadar-kai faithful to her considering she has them live in a terrible world despite everything they've done for her? If she's a god, shouldn't she have the power to improve their lives?
@tabcat6 жыл бұрын
I love the fourth edition pantheon.
@vesperschake62416 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't have lolth or the raven queen in my brew haha
@TheToxicGirl75 жыл бұрын
So shes evil? He described evil things she does shes lawful natural i thought...... So shes a petty god basicly
@wardenm6 жыл бұрын
Pssh, you want an enigmatic female figure, try the Lady of Pain in Sigil!
@DivineEternalOne6 жыл бұрын
How can I become a cleric for the Raven Queen?
@krgood90086 жыл бұрын
Thank you, my only question is, when did the shadar kai become elves? I recall them being described as human like
@sylvanvixen68876 жыл бұрын
They were humans in 4e, so was the raven queen. I think they are changing the whole thing over to overlap with elves and the Seldarine (elf gods) in 5e and while I don't see a precedence for the change it's not one I'm opposed to, I always like to see the elves as being more magical than just pointy eared humans... maybe they are trying to make the elves a more planar race between the shadar-kai and the eladrin
@Owen-bk5fc6 жыл бұрын
In 3e, they were fey. In 4e, they were human-like and descended from humans. I guess in 5e they're splitting the difference and calling them elves. In case you haven't figured it out yet, Mearls really likes elves.
@brycenerdstrom5676 жыл бұрын
Also, what the hell is this "they look withered and old while in the shadowfell" crap? And RQ is a meddler in the transition of death now? Nope. I'm ignoring 99% of this nonsense and just using the original flavour text for her. This is an absurd level of completely necessary change that makes what it changes dramatically less interesting.
@SpireTheSlay6 жыл бұрын
You men the same original flavor that had her LITERALLY DOING EXACTLY THAT... WTF do you think revenants are the result of if not meddling in the transition of death? She has ZERO issues with meddling with the transition of death when it catches her attention. She literally was established as only having issues with sentient undead that sought it as a means of avoiding the inevitablity of death entirely.... She didn't care about undeath as a whole (mindless undead had no souls and thus she didn't care, meanwhile revenants were sentient undead she made and gave enough time to fulfill their purpose that they were denied because she also had the portfolio over fate).... she didn't care about people meddling with the transition of death... its something she is perfectly content with if you accept that you are still to die. At no point does she oppose resurrection magic, those seeking an extended but not indefinite life (such as Wizards who can grow to great age but will one day become a part of the magic that has always been a part of them), etc.... She is instead shown to embrace the idea of meddling with the transition between life and death, but not acting against the transition (which is what often leads to sentient undead).
@fortunatus16 жыл бұрын
I really don't like Shadar Kai as elves. There's already way more types of elves than there needs to be. Its becoming a tired trope. The old appearance thing... who came up with that? It's so bad. I prefer the 4e shadar kai desceded from humans. Keep the fey in the feywild and create a separate mythology for the Shadowfel.
@Thaxsar6 жыл бұрын
Wait, so what happened to Shar? Is she the Raven Queen in disguise? Or did the Shadowfell also eventually transform her?
@jgr74876 жыл бұрын
what about the Lady of Pain?
@cocojumbo82406 жыл бұрын
will there be more lore videos like this?
@JewishPharaoh6 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer this to be much more nebulous rather than strictly connected to an entity known as the Raven Queen. I wasn't in favour of her warlock pact either, it's too specific unlike the others who are certainly more general. I also dislike the insinuation she's the one beyond the Hexblade pact. She's a cool character to be sure, but her existence should be optional in campaigns as per the book.
@rachelghoul18356 жыл бұрын
It is. In the same way that say, Asmodeus or Demogorgon is.
@1Kapuchu1006 жыл бұрын
Isn't literally everything in the books optional, at the end of the day? Everything is at the discretion of the DM. If they want to invent a new Pantheon, they can. If they don't want certain classes for whatever reasons, that's also up to them.
@galvaton100006 жыл бұрын
Is Falkon a servant of the Raven Queen?
@mooxim6 жыл бұрын
So... Kelemvor's no longer the God of the Dead in FR. Are they going to explain this?
@Millstone19856 жыл бұрын
According to Mike Mearls here, the Raven Queen holds the status of deity on at least one world, that of the Nentir Vale campaign setting, but not on every other world.
@ryanr58666 жыл бұрын
selúne is my clerics deity, she’s truly the best
@GunmanJag6 жыл бұрын
Make Torog great again
@thadrine6 жыл бұрын
Mike...it is time to just shave it brother. Just shave it off.
@johnferrara96246 жыл бұрын
So is she a thing in the Forgotten Realms or does Kelemvor take her place there?
@Rathkryn6 жыл бұрын
Kelemvor attempts to take the souls to their deserved afterlife. The Raven Queen attempts to interfere. I believe both of them hate necromancers and liches because they feel that once you're dead you should stay dead. Whether or not she's in your game's Shadowfell is up to your DM.
@SpireTheSlay6 жыл бұрын
She has 0 opposition to necromancers in canon actually.... she is one.... She is perfectly fine with those that create mindless undead as it has no interference on the transition and the bodies are simply husks.... She also does NOT believe once you are dead you should stay dead, she actually demonstrably is not a believer in such a thing. She is responsible for revenants, she never opposes the use of resurrection magic, she does not even oppose undeath in the way it is often assumed. Her opposition to undeath (including an opposition to many necromancers) when given context always amounted to..... they didn't want to have a second chance to take care of unfinished business (she literally creates undead and gives them time to finish such things).... but instead by their actions they oppose the very role of death itself. Those that have the mentality of "I don't care if I die tomorrow but the world needs me today" aren't an issue because they still accept death. Necromancers is very broad and doesn't even require being one that deals with undeath but death magic as a whole, but even taking the common usage as those that create undead..... she doesn't ever oppose it as a whole but the path that many end up walking. Its one thing to raise skeletons, but the path many necromancers walk leads them towards trying to avoid dying at all or otherwise acting against the natural order of things. She in canon has at the very least sympathy for certain undead as well.Those still tied to the mortal plane in death due to horrible deaths she feels bad for despite being intelligent undead that do not have to answer when she calls for them to move on (revenants she can claim at any time), because they never made that choice but rather are suffering like her people were before she became the Raven Queen.
@marcloure6 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand why WotC wants so much to unite all world's cosmology into one. Why meddle with the perfect Nentir Vale Raven Queen, and remove her divinity there? Also, I prefer shadar-kai as humans. We already have other what, 8 variations of elves?
@ollininvincible6 жыл бұрын
The worlds have been connected for quite some time. There's solid lore on this.
@marcloure6 жыл бұрын
ollininvincible yes, I am aware of planescape and spelljammer, but that doesn't have to mean that the death of a god here must be the death of the god there. I'm left to wonder how WotC will take divinity and the planes of Athas and Eberron.
@brycenerdstrom5676 жыл бұрын
Same. If they screw Eberron with this nonsense they'll certainly lose me as a customer. I have no patience for this crap.
@ollininvincible6 жыл бұрын
I would argue that the very nature of being a god in the D&D multiverse means exactly that. Deities fall out of favor all of the time. Portfolios have to be managed. Besides, RQ isn't being treated as a true goddess. She's in that fuzzy area that Bahamut fell into for a while.
@nathangreenberg36836 жыл бұрын
why is Mike pink in this one?
@ChristianD_Avionics6 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest, the original Raven Queen is the Pale Night. She was only mentioned once, but is probably the oldest and strongest of gods and abyssal lords.
@thestripedmenace6 жыл бұрын
So, basically... Raven Queen confirmed for DCA?! :DDDDD
@TheDumbCow16 жыл бұрын
Y E S
@PaladinsFury6 жыл бұрын
I love these interviews, but someone needs to tell Mike that he keeps dropping into mumbles about 2/3 into his sentences and then what he's saying becomes unintelligible. I've had to start turning on captions for his videos
@vichraev.53865 жыл бұрын
I love everything here. The elaboration in Tome of Foes is disappointing to me, however. It takes her from a mysterious and powerful quasi-diety with a protective interest in the dead (and hints of a underlying interest) and turns her into a rather weak and pathetic creature, grasping at memories out of self-preservation. I've ruled that the elaboration in Tome of Foes is merely speculation in my campaign.
@richardbutts67236 жыл бұрын
What an absolute mess of a convoluted character, perhaps it was supposed to be a push for mysteriousness but it just makes her seem like an absolute waste.
@PjotrFrank6 жыл бұрын
Again the word "soul" was uttered, yet there is still no satisfactory definition of what it means in D&D terminology …
@andya98996 жыл бұрын
Out of so many entities and gods in the D&D multiverse, the raven queen might be the biggest Mary Sue
@mega176 жыл бұрын
Any good lore needs a Mary Sue, so that's a compliment.
@1Kapuchu1006 жыл бұрын
"Trope Talk: Mary Sue" by Overly Sarcastic Production. Try to watch that video. I think you'll realise that the Raven Queen is very far from being any kind of Mary Sue.
@quintinsteevessenior55686 жыл бұрын
How is that even possible?
@JTWilliams746 жыл бұрын
I love Mike but he has this unfortunate tendency for his sentences to trail off into a low mumble/whisper and it's very hard to hear him speaking in videos even in a quiet room unless i have headphones on
@shadeseba5996 жыл бұрын
So what about Shar??? Shadar-kai werent from the shade enclave? And the Shades??? That you also destroy that amazing lore and material... The Raven Queen wasnt Lawful Neutral? This doesnt make any sense.
@ikarean51246 жыл бұрын
Mike "You're fired as a customer" Mearls everyone. Raven Queen became a thing in Critical Role, so now it needs to be implemented everywhere. It seems they want to make her into some kind of discount Lady of Pain while still keeping their options open, so what you get is this very weird vagueness surrounding every aspect of her while still breaking established lore.
@TravistheGREAT036 жыл бұрын
I really think the Raven Queen has to become overrepresented in 5e in a way that is not healthy.
@barelycompetitive54006 жыл бұрын
TravistheGREAT03 I thought I was the only one who thought as much. I don't dislike the Raven Queen, but I'm sick of everyone's obsession with her. Raven queen races, raven queen subclasses, raven queen lore everywhere...