The Real Commodus Was Even Crazier Than His 'Gladiator' Character

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@NewMessage
@NewMessage 2 жыл бұрын
When a Blockbuster movie has to tone you down, you know you've gone a little too far.
@stoopingfalcon891
@stoopingfalcon891 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@tomcollins5112
@tomcollins5112 2 жыл бұрын
The real Commodus wouldn't have been a believable character.
@MandalorV7
@MandalorV7 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomcollins5112 Even comic book Joker would think this guy is way to insane.
@gindyelgindy6786
@gindyelgindy6786 2 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the opera that plays at 2:37
@SymphonyZach
@SymphonyZach 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomcollins5112 it honestly reads like a bible verse. His life reads like one of those verses about wicked men throwing themselves into wicked things. Dude wasn’t “insane”, he knew what he was doing, he was a sociopathic narcissist with a god complex. Psychologists and preachers both would have a field day picking his mind apart.
@JustMe-ob3nw
@JustMe-ob3nw 2 жыл бұрын
To think Marcus Aurelius, one of the greatest men who ever lived, was his father…
@jjosa52
@jjosa52 2 жыл бұрын
Stoicism is great for people but not for sons. Cold father is not fun
@JustMe-ob3nw
@JustMe-ob3nw 2 жыл бұрын
@@jjosa52 You clearly have no idea of what Stoicism is about. 😐
@gindyelgindy6786
@gindyelgindy6786 2 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the opera that plays at 2:37
@jjosa52
@jjosa52 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustMe-ob3nw You sure?
@calexander7495
@calexander7495 2 жыл бұрын
@@kylermatsuura7647 Didn't he put his wife to death because she thought he died and tried to make a new Emperor? Morality aside, that's going to mess up your kid.
@spacecaptain9188
@spacecaptain9188 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to learn more about Marcia, the highest ranking praetorian guard/mistress.
@gorillajuice7313
@gorillajuice7313 2 жыл бұрын
Sucks that there is literally no literature on her anywhere
@gindyelgindy6786
@gindyelgindy6786 2 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the opera that plays at 2:37
@jl696
@jl696 2 жыл бұрын
A female was in the Praetorian guard? That does not sound right.
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 2 жыл бұрын
@@gindyelgindy6786 Don't think it's an opera but probably part of a film score.It's very similar to the 1930's choral work by the German composer Carl Orff -called "Oh Fortuna' from Carmina Burana-a very popular piece that has been used in many advertisements though most people would know the name of it.Orff lived during the Nazi regime.
@gindyelgindy6786
@gindyelgindy6786 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaloarepo288 Yes I thought it resembled Orff's work a little bit. And yes he lived during the Nazi regime like Karajan, who is my favorite conductor.
@notallowed337
@notallowed337 2 жыл бұрын
Usually they over dramaticize real life characters in movies. Joachim played this part superbly.
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember that Russell Crowe beat him like a underling speaking out of turn at a meeting of a bunch of railroad barons.
@eflinneflinn
@eflinneflinn 2 жыл бұрын
Historia Augusta never once lets facts get in the way of a good juicy story, though.
@shanesnider8645
@shanesnider8645 2 жыл бұрын
that golden gate in the painting around 4:10 had me laughing pretty damn hard!! cheers from Texas guys! bahahaha
@randomuser6175
@randomuser6175 2 жыл бұрын
I love the ending of the video; "So what do you think? Commodus, was he weirdo or what?" Well yeah that sums it up pretty good :)
@idipped2521
@idipped2521 Жыл бұрын
Commodus was like Kim Jong-Un. Not only does he punish the people who do the crime but their children as well
@darkec1984
@darkec1984 Жыл бұрын
Wait a sec , he invented gyms?!
@philipcallicoat3801
@philipcallicoat3801 2 жыл бұрын
Hollywood works wonders with its talent to make history unrecognizable...
@alicerivierre
@alicerivierre 2 жыл бұрын
Weird History, you are so awesome as hell! Keep up the good work! Spill me some more tea! Thanks!
@kimmickal
@kimmickal Жыл бұрын
I bet Supernanny would straighten him out!
@lucky-gh5ox
@lucky-gh5ox 2 жыл бұрын
if the news are fake...can you imagine our history...
@LetsSeeYourKungFu
@LetsSeeYourKungFu 2 жыл бұрын
this channel is so good. The narrator is great for this too
@witrex7764
@witrex7764 2 жыл бұрын
Remember that Historia Augusta isn't the greatest source to trust
@spacecaptain9188
@spacecaptain9188 2 жыл бұрын
2 things not addressed: 1 what happened to Narcissus, afterward? 2 Is Commodus somehow connected to the word commode?
@captainron1960
@captainron1960 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@danbrownellfuzzy3010
@danbrownellfuzzy3010 2 жыл бұрын
The commode thing might be tough. Imagine playing telephone with that word for 2000 years.
@knighthawk882
@knighthawk882 2 жыл бұрын
Be cool to learn more about Roman concrete and how it has lasted thousands of years where modern day concrete lasts not near as long
@danbrownellfuzzy3010
@danbrownellfuzzy3010 2 жыл бұрын
Something about volcanic dust. Good luck
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 2 жыл бұрын
@@danbrownellfuzzy3010 The Eastern Roman Empire also called the Byzantines took concrete technology to another level when they built the vast domed Hagia Sophia church in the sixth century which still exists of course in Istanbul.Istanbul(formely Constantinople)is on a fault line and very earthquake prone so they invented flexible concrete which never fully sets thus allowing structures to survive earthquakes.
@MrBl3ki
@MrBl3ki 2 жыл бұрын
Volcanic dust, lower water ratio and no steel armature.
@paulcooper8818
@paulcooper8818 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute power corrupts absolutely
@mitkomarkov4375
@mitkomarkov4375 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video of ancient roman /greek/ male beauty ideal :)
@Makeyourselfbig
@Makeyourselfbig 2 жыл бұрын
Christopher Plummer played Commodus first in the epic "The Fall of the Roman Empire" Alec Guinness played his dad Marcus Aurelius.
@thedaggonator
@thedaggonator 2 жыл бұрын
He was an Athlete? I’m an Athlete. AM I COMMODUS????
@Delicious1922
@Delicious1922 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Please do one about Joshua
@michaelvitta5577
@michaelvitta5577 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this man seems to have 10 different lives, all on the basis of cognitive biases.
@pudgeboyardee32
@pudgeboyardee32 2 жыл бұрын
probably only took a few minutes? commodus was yoked, all muscle, and had the freedom to eat an athletes diet everyday. narcissus likely had to earn it. maybe commodus wasnt a great fighter but a big desperate guy is still dangerous. might run out of air a little quicker, but also might unseat your jaw quicker.
@swagcandy2576
@swagcandy2576 Жыл бұрын
Marcus Aurelius was a great man, but a terrible father
@tyrannicalgod6064
@tyrannicalgod6064 Жыл бұрын
My favourite mad ruler
@rheverend
@rheverend 10 ай бұрын
4:17 is that the Golden Gate Bridge in the background???
@spockboy
@spockboy 2 жыл бұрын
This, and the fact that Putin currently has the world worrying about nuclear war, is the reason that "no single person" should ever be given so much power.
@mymymy9452
@mymymy9452 2 жыл бұрын
I waited for the 300 women and *boys.* Because we all was surprised he was into women.
@akramgimmini8165
@akramgimmini8165 2 жыл бұрын
Rome has so much Weird History
@laurat188
@laurat188 2 жыл бұрын
Every country has weird history if you dig deep enough
@zerothehero753
@zerothehero753 2 жыл бұрын
Eh?!. Ah, they said they all went nut-balls from lead poisoning...
@donvanevery3235
@donvanevery3235 2 жыл бұрын
Marcus should have taught him meditation
@Honeymoon1988
@Honeymoon1988 2 жыл бұрын
Why were all these Roman emperors crazy as hell?
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 2 жыл бұрын
Heavy metal poisoning?
@brandbryce
@brandbryce 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know! Hello from Canada.
@bawbbie7875
@bawbbie7875 2 жыл бұрын
so the son of the perfectly wise philosopher king was ... that...
@corrieshepard9620
@corrieshepard9620 2 жыл бұрын
Why is there a golden gate bridge in one of the painting backgrounds?
@jimshaw9449
@jimshaw9449 2 жыл бұрын
Marcia Marcia Marcia!
@frank..4745
@frank..4745 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the Golden Gate Bridge from Frisco on the 4:15 mark?
@Thewolverine0865
@Thewolverine0865 2 жыл бұрын
Choked to death in a bathroom. I'd say the prophecy made about him at the time of his birth came true.
@bistro-tat
@bistro-tat 2 жыл бұрын
4:12 Golden Gate bridge in the background?
@fatasianone
@fatasianone 2 жыл бұрын
The Golden Gate Bridge was part of the Empire! @4:21.
@bofurthedwarf
@bofurthedwarf 2 жыл бұрын
“Did I miss the battle?” “You missed the war.” Fourth best line in the movie.
@captainamerica6525
@captainamerica6525 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree!!
@extraterrestrial7424
@extraterrestrial7424 Жыл бұрын
Quintus to Maximus: I am a soldier. I obey. Maximus: Nothing happens to anyone that he is not fitted by nature to bear. A line that changed the history. And so much for Maximus being a simple mind.
@extraterrestrial7424
@extraterrestrial7424 Жыл бұрын
Another proof that Maximus wasn't such a bloke was his last reply to Proximus, when Proximus declined to join the plot with the argumentation that he has nothing to gain from it. Maximus, before leaving turned and said: "He killed Marcus Aurelius." Few scenes later, we see Proximus drawing the wooden freedom-sword with Marcus Aurelius name engraved on it.
@BiffTannenBTTF
@BiffTannenBTTF Жыл бұрын
Absolutely hilarious. I laugh my ass off every time.
@maxgoss5653
@maxgoss5653 7 ай бұрын
What is the 3 best lines then brother? Let us whisper…
@Housesider
@Housesider 2 жыл бұрын
So the guy who took out Commodus, who was an exorbitantly deluded narcissist, was ganked by a dude literally named Narcissus? That's some incredibly serendipitous irony lol.
@LOTW1
@LOTW1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm English second language. Thank you for the word "serendipitous". I learned something new today.
@graxo3752
@graxo3752 2 жыл бұрын
You got a mountain for a face.
@SweetTea-Stephens
@SweetTea-Stephens 2 жыл бұрын
@@LOTW1 well, you’re doing an amazing job at English! I know people who’ve spoken it all their lives and they can’t speak or write it for shit.
@Thearbiter96
@Thearbiter96 2 жыл бұрын
The gods have such profound humor.
@gindyelgindy6786
@gindyelgindy6786 2 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the opera that plays at 2:37
@DamonNomad82
@DamonNomad82 2 жыл бұрын
Joaquin Phoenix brilliantly played a memorable movie villain, but that version of Commodus was actually too nice and sane to be accurate. The real one was closer to Caligula, as infamously portrayed by Malcolm McDowall...
@ems6706
@ems6706 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing about that movie was accurate, they didn't even depict how the Romans dressed at the time. It's basically historical fiction.
@stacyswiss307
@stacyswiss307 2 жыл бұрын
I love his acting.
@Joke_Bidumb
@Joke_Bidumb 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear the name Caligula, young Malcolm McDowell's face springs to my mind.
@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing 2 жыл бұрын
It amazes me that movie pundits still laud Clockwork Orange, but immediately disavow Caligula as a 'legit' movie. Together they were the quintessential McDowell movies filled with dystopian insanity, sex & violence, but one was produced by the owner of Penthouse magazine, therefore regarded as illegitimate. It had Peter O'Toole, ffs. Yet Warhol gets a pass for Blue Movie. Pedigree and connections still rule the cinema world, not merits.
@TGBurgerGaming
@TGBurgerGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Being compared to Caligula usually means you're messed up on levels that have levels within levels.
@The.Nasty.
@The.Nasty. 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, being the son of Marcus Aurelius would give literally anyone a superiority complex…
@gindyelgindy6786
@gindyelgindy6786 2 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the opera that plays at 2:37
@The.Nasty.
@The.Nasty. 2 жыл бұрын
@@gindyelgindy6786 no clue
@grimble4564
@grimble4564 2 жыл бұрын
@@gindyelgindy6786 it's Dies Irae. It's not from an opera, it's just a really old song about the end of the world. There's a couple different versions of it but the one by Verdi is my personal favorite
@dollarcostbackpacker1226
@dollarcostbackpacker1226 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. So terrible father like that... and you turn out to be shiit
@calcaleb7041
@calcaleb7041 Жыл бұрын
Also being a product of incest 😂 southerns kn this personally they tried to create the “perfect” man lol created a bunch of meth heads and school shooters
@FloresFatKat
@FloresFatKat 2 жыл бұрын
Weird history is a great way to start the day 😃
@alicerivierre
@alicerivierre 2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that! Good morning!
@TanisC
@TanisC 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed!💯
@stonezone9689
@stonezone9689 2 жыл бұрын
I watch it during my morning shower 😂
@sueperb2452
@sueperb2452 2 жыл бұрын
@@stonezone9689 that’s a weird wank
@stonezone9689
@stonezone9689 2 жыл бұрын
@@sueperb2452 what can I say he’s got a great voice
@Zer0TheHer0_VR
@Zer0TheHer0_VR 2 жыл бұрын
Marcia wasn’t a praetorian guard she was just his mistress, the guard that helped her was Quintus Aemilius Laetus…also the statue that they use for her likeness is of a different Marcia (Marcia Otacilia Severa)
@olliefoxx7165
@olliefoxx7165 2 жыл бұрын
Some of these folks must include things that never happened to appear woke. It's irritating.
@thedecayingwatcher7177
@thedecayingwatcher7177 2 жыл бұрын
@@olliefoxx7165you're sad
@peregrinezane8828
@peregrinezane8828 2 жыл бұрын
Another case of history is stranger than fiction. So much of history would never be believed if it was written as screenplay.
@Me-qp8vz
@Me-qp8vz 2 жыл бұрын
And yet people believe in the bible... Messed up world isn't it.
@satanswife2546
@satanswife2546 2 жыл бұрын
@@Me-qp8vz seen you around this channel's other videos, you're a rude know it all wannabe so pipe down
@DeadlyAlienInvader
@DeadlyAlienInvader 2 жыл бұрын
Some movie critics would probably go as far to claim that these stories are poorly written, LOL.
@gindyelgindy6786
@gindyelgindy6786 2 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the opera that plays at 2:37
@bryansmith1691
@bryansmith1691 2 жыл бұрын
Me 2... Do you know the bible is a collection of books written by different people at different times? You seem to just constantly want to shit it on every comment and I'm curious if you actually know what it is from any type academic perspective.
@anthonyoverbay4448
@anthonyoverbay4448 2 жыл бұрын
The narrator's condescending tone when talking about people that were clearly pieces of trash really makes these enjoyable. Part information, part humor. Makes the information stick to my brain when I enjoy the delivery.
@no8to8racism
@no8to8racism 2 жыл бұрын
Gladiators weren't actually slaves necessarily. A lot of them were free men who fought for a living. Also their fights hardly ever was to the death. Gladiators were expensive to train, so they weren't really so expendable. Some of them were treated like modern sports stars
@vixxxenfoxxx3660
@vixxxenfoxxx3660 2 жыл бұрын
Free men could also sell themselves into slavery to pay of debts
@TGBurgerGaming
@TGBurgerGaming 2 жыл бұрын
You're describing a minority so small it is to the arena what non binary people are to the planet.
@dcint6692
@dcint6692 2 жыл бұрын
Um as a 10 yr gladiator in my former life this is incorrect
@user-sh2rc5kc7x
@user-sh2rc5kc7x 2 жыл бұрын
@@dcint6692 😆
@bongashange4527
@bongashange4527 2 жыл бұрын
@@dcint6692 😂😂😂
@klc3rd
@klc3rd 2 жыл бұрын
“Commodus didn’t take lightly the assassination attempts against him” eh I mean that’s understandable lol
@MoltenPlastic
@MoltenPlastic 2 жыл бұрын
It kinda ruins your day, yeah.
@1ranjeeves21
@1ranjeeves21 2 жыл бұрын
it was said in a sarcastic tone though
@klc3rd
@klc3rd 2 жыл бұрын
@@1ranjeeves21 I know, I was saying it as a joke as well
@Delightfully_Bitchy
@Delightfully_Bitchy 2 жыл бұрын
They really didn't take his feelings into consideration.
@PaperMakersAdeludedbroad
@PaperMakersAdeludedbroad Жыл бұрын
Fair. Lol
@jimmydreamcatcher
@jimmydreamcatcher 2 жыл бұрын
It's ironic the most psychopathic narcissistic Roman empror died at the hands of a man named Narcissus!
@theinnerlight1716
@theinnerlight1716 2 жыл бұрын
Narcissus might have been the "Joe" of ancient Rome
@zacheray
@zacheray 4 ай бұрын
That myth doesn’t mean the same thing in Italy. My grandfather also had that name and it means more ‘appreciator of beauty’ in Europe
@RandolfLycan
@RandolfLycan 2 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting the poison didn't work on Commodus because he was so heavily intoxicated that he vomited it out before it could damage him.
@zach7193
@zach7193 2 жыл бұрын
Man, that's something. He was hardly like the character portrayed by Joaquin Phoenix in the Gladiator. In the film, he was cold and calculated. He's a mixture of Caligula and Nero. Cruel, irrational, and narcissistic person.
@jamesmeppler6375
@jamesmeppler6375 2 жыл бұрын
Well that's because gladiator was almost entirely based on fiction...like every movie based on fact
@User-54631
@User-54631 2 жыл бұрын
Was gladiator marketed as non fiction?
@amosnaftali2495
@amosnaftali2495 2 жыл бұрын
Actually Nero is a victim of Christian historical fallacy he wasnt bad but Caligula and Commodus were bad
@zainshaikh527
@zainshaikh527 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't see anything cold and calculating about his character. Just way more powerful than his subjects and infinitely more than the protagonists. He was an impulsive, hedonistic and insecure. Only thing they got right. But he was far more involved and capable in all the worse ways lol
@r0ky_M
@r0ky_M 2 жыл бұрын
Nero treated Xtians like any other law breaker but Xtians spun it into a story of persecution.
@calcaleb7041
@calcaleb7041 2 жыл бұрын
Man really destroyed everything his father put in place and helped Rome’s fall come faster than it should have😂 After watching this again I missed the part when he had lil boy sex slaves not men LITTLE BOYS 🤮
@alicerivierre
@alicerivierre 2 жыл бұрын
Woof, that's crazy as hell!
@richardscanlan3167
@richardscanlan3167 2 жыл бұрын
Actually,Commodus did little to instigate Rome's fall.What he did do though,is instigate what was known as the Third Century Crisis - a period of massive political,economic and military instability. Bear in mind Commodus died in 193AD,the western empire dissolved in 476AD.You can see where I'm coming from...
@calcaleb7041
@calcaleb7041 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardscanlan3167 tru tru I fully agree tons of other factors that caused the fall of Rome
@richardscanlan3167
@richardscanlan3167 2 жыл бұрын
@@calcaleb7041 for sure. Barbarian migrations,plague,civil wars. Rome was a colossus - one single factor couldn't destroy it,but put together....
@vedicpride
@vedicpride 2 жыл бұрын
Actually many emperors were psychos not surprised it fell quite fast
@flicka25
@flicka25 2 жыл бұрын
The Romans had more nuts than a fruitcake as Emperors go. However he may have been the result of too much 'cousin marrying cousin' hence the psychopathic tendencies and any other 'paths' you'd care to mention.
@SymphonyZach
@SymphonyZach 2 жыл бұрын
Well there’s another thing. It was common for young boys to be raped by older men in that culture. Causing horrible psychological damage. And their condiments were cooked in lead pots. Leading to lead poisoning, one aspect of which is extreme anger.
@danbrownellfuzzy3010
@danbrownellfuzzy3010 2 жыл бұрын
I would think that's the curious draw they have. I bet there's a thousand kings that were boring and nobody even thinks about them at all. Viva La Extracrazy
@bunnyfreakz
@bunnyfreakz 2 жыл бұрын
Roman elites also love drank wine in lead glass. Explain why so many emperors just so erratic and insane. The only sane emperor was Augustus and he did not like drink wine like any other. He just drink spring water collected by his servants in wooden bucket.
@cenobitecenobite7380
@cenobitecenobite7380 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how the Gladiator movie made him a wimp when the real figure, while deranged, was very physically fit and assassinated in the bath so he wouldn’t put up a fight.
@heatherturner2366
@heatherturner2366 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah by Apollo
@matthewvaughan8192
@matthewvaughan8192 2 жыл бұрын
Pheonix was in good shape when he played that role. They made him cowardly more than wimpy, I’d say
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 2 жыл бұрын
In the movie Commodus was portrayed as a very fit fighter capable even of taking on gladiators (though he had Maximus nobbled, just to be sure). He was a wimp only in the psychological sense.
@smackedout2477
@smackedout2477 2 жыл бұрын
I mean he was athletic but I don't see how that makes him any less of a wimp. I've only ever heard of him fighting people who can't fight back, and animals that are either not dangerous or have been declawed.
@rickc2102
@rickc2102 2 жыл бұрын
Phoenix's Commodus was a thinly-veiled coward, but not a wimp.
@dvdv8197
@dvdv8197 2 жыл бұрын
Did you also know real Commodus was a cannibal and actually had his wife for dinner? No kidding, he didn't even show any remorse, he said he was gladiator! 😮
@JoJoZaka
@JoJoZaka 2 жыл бұрын
based
@darbyca
@darbyca 2 жыл бұрын
😅
@r0ky_M
@r0ky_M 2 жыл бұрын
Cannibal is likely an exaggeration..and Professors at Cambridge suggest people have also exaggerated somewhat about Nero and Caligula.
@mariidee2
@mariidee2 2 жыл бұрын
@@r0ky_M how can that be an exaggeration either he was a cannibal or he wasn’t
@lavinialadlass9432
@lavinialadlass9432 2 жыл бұрын
What?
@flyingelbowdrop
@flyingelbowdrop 2 жыл бұрын
This is a binge-worthy TV series just begging to be made.
@BlaudracheLP
@BlaudracheLP 2 жыл бұрын
Binge-worthy in no word, it's a marketing tool. -Peter Griffin
@johnnybgoode2333
@johnnybgoode2333 11 ай бұрын
On Netflix- "Roman Empire"
@DoloresJNurss
@DoloresJNurss 2 жыл бұрын
I've always been a Marcus Aurelius fan, and a great admirer of stoic philosophy. What a crushing disappointment to learn that he was a horrible father who raised a nightmarish son!
@selfiekroos1777
@selfiekroos1777 2 жыл бұрын
Bad parenting are bad people
@huldrrrr9486
@huldrrrr9486 2 жыл бұрын
He wasn't a horrible father, in his writing you can see he has a lot of love for his children, such as always remember that they may die any day (most of his children died in childhood) when kissing them goodnight, and how important it is to teach with a gentle yet firm hand. Also he had his hands full with wars and plague and spent a lot of time abroad, he probably didn't have much time left to spend father-son quality time with him. Commodus just ended up being a very unfortunate mix of being a spoilt prince, paranoia due to his position as emperor, and a natural born idiot
@LD-qj2te
@LD-qj2te 2 жыл бұрын
I know hard to believe !! But women and children were chattel !!
@DoloresJNurss
@DoloresJNurss 2 жыл бұрын
@@huldrrrr9486 You make some fair points, there. I overreacted.
@lavinialadlass9432
@lavinialadlass9432 2 жыл бұрын
I think he was just Stern Because he wanted his son to be a good ruler.
@mischasan
@mischasan 2 жыл бұрын
How about the near-collaboration of Hannibal and Archimedes that could have broken Rome? Hannibal was roaming Italy, but couldn't crack the walls of Rome with the horsehair-sprung catapults of the day. Archimedes, opposed Rome in Syracuse, and intimate with lever principles, invented many war machines. Hannibal sent two lieutenants to help Syracuse organize. Hannibal understood slingers very well -- and that knowledge might have led Archimedes to invent the trebuchet. A catapult can send a 20lb rock a few hundred feet. A trebuchet can throw a 500lb rock a quarter mile. Rome would have been smashed.
@Philboshaba
@Philboshaba 2 жыл бұрын
4:11 why is there a laptop in the bottom left corner
@l.b.2592
@l.b.2592 2 жыл бұрын
The movie Gladiator should've of had more of this in it.
@benm3382
@benm3382 2 жыл бұрын
It occurred to me while listening to this that concubines and other indulgences might be more the idea of the people around the emperor than the emperor themselves... In many places and times in history it seems like people behind the scenes are running things while the leader is busy with concubines, parties, food, trips, spas, games, and etc. Maybe all this stuff is really there to distract the emperor, and their inner circle convinces them to indulge in these things.
@r0ky_M
@r0ky_M 2 жыл бұрын
Augustus in his rise to power (part of 2nd triumvirate) had many thousand Roman elites and aristocrats and their whole families murdered and their vast properties/estates seized..he even did away with the children of his great uncle Julius Caesar who had adopted Octavian before he became Augustus...but people tend to only paint Nero, Caligula and Commodus as bad Emperors.
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 2 жыл бұрын
They all murdered, but if your successful at it you are remembered fondly.
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 2 жыл бұрын
Also it depends on the reason, if you are doing it it gain power or for Rome it's looked different then for entertainment. Like having another Son of Caeser, hurts not only Augusta but fractures the Empire.
@petersack5074
@petersack5074 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrhumble2937 There are no, GOOD heroes, in history. For example: Robert Baden Powell, founder of the BOY SCOUTS....and others. Persons' creating medicines/inventions of communication/Henry Ford/ etc all hi-modern tech stuff, electricity/ and founders/inventors......wood and forestry experts. Natural food persons'/doctors, etc. THE ONLY FAMOUS ones, are the ones which KILLED ALOT OF OTHER PEOPLE.......'' father knows best '' old tv program, is not accepted in todays' perverted /gender lost, generation. YOU are either MALE,..or FEMALE......any combination of medical doctoring procedures, cannot remove the xx and the xy chromosomes, in the DNA.....
@vanessaculater9038
@vanessaculater9038 2 жыл бұрын
sack wtf does that matter? If someone feels like they are either male or female then they have every right to be called what they want. If they want to be genderless then they can do that too.
@r0ky_M
@r0ky_M 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutonomousUltraInstinct69 You failed to mention Commodus killed people to maintain power.
@ScratchthechalkBoard
@ScratchthechalkBoard 2 жыл бұрын
Weird History, Marcia was his favorite mistress ,her husband was head of the Praetorian Guards when they first got married.
@channellegendarium7677
@channellegendarium7677 2 жыл бұрын
It's striking that such a depraved and degenerate man became so obsessed with a hero revered as a paragon of courage and excellence. There could not be a greater contrast between the two!
@DeadlyAlienInvader
@DeadlyAlienInvader 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it similar to how the Nazis worship Jesus Christ yet, their hearts are filled hatred and cruelty towards their enemies, not to mention their philosophy that encourages them to enjoy war? Or how about the Americans who loved characters such as Superman and Captain America-who are characters that are not only patriotic but, stands for truth, justice, and freedom yet, how many times had the american government violated those things against weaker nations?
@gindyelgindy6786
@gindyelgindy6786 2 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the opera that plays at 2:37
@channellegendarium7677
@channellegendarium7677 2 жыл бұрын
@@gindyelgindy6786 I couldn't say for sure, sorry.
@Praskful
@Praskful 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i mean Hercules did some pretty fucked up shit too...
@channellegendarium7677
@channellegendarium7677 2 жыл бұрын
@@Praskful A good point, but he did penance for it, unlike Commodus.
@ericpitt3876
@ericpitt3876 2 жыл бұрын
4:13. Most people don’t know that the first Golden Gate Bridge was built in Rome.
@danbrownellfuzzy3010
@danbrownellfuzzy3010 2 жыл бұрын
The tops of the two towers are so far apart they are 2 inches far apart from the bottom because the Earth is round
@andrabrandon7375
@andrabrandon7375 2 жыл бұрын
Do a video on Octavian, who took over after Julius Caesar was murdered. Was he like he is portrayed in Cleopatra with Elizabeth Taylor?
@jiveassturkey8849
@jiveassturkey8849 2 жыл бұрын
Octavian became the first true Roman Emperor as Augustus.
@maximilianogarciachirinos3663
@maximilianogarciachirinos3663 2 жыл бұрын
I am glad that you put AD instead of CE.
@laurat188
@laurat188 2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@maximilianogarciachirinos3663
@maximilianogarciachirinos3663 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurat188 BC/AD is the correct way.
@pamelamays4186
@pamelamays4186 2 жыл бұрын
Commodus makes Caligula look like a Boy Scout. Narcissus. Perfect name for a pro wrestler.
@lavinialadlass9432
@lavinialadlass9432 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I could compare the two and say which one is worse.
@ericspencer8093
@ericspencer8093 2 жыл бұрын
The video is using Historia Augusta as it's primary source, which tells me everything I need to know about the quality of information. FYI the Historia Augusta is a work of late Roman fiction written as a Christian satire of pagan Rome. It's by no means a historical account.
@frgv4060
@frgv4060 2 жыл бұрын
My thinking is always that the fault is not that of the monster but the people that allows monsters to rule them. Of course, it is always easier to blame one guy but what one guy can really do by itself?
@skypainterboomytunes2974
@skypainterboomytunes2974 2 жыл бұрын
All monsters have a support system, those who benefit from evil will continue the cycle; we see it every day now... economy over humanity
@JustKrista50
@JustKrista50 2 жыл бұрын
# victim blaming.🙂 Seriously though, the citizens are helpless to who ends up ruling them. Especially in a monarchy or Empire. I would say the people who help the ruler rise to power or "advise" are to blame. However, I've seen in my own free democracy how people with power will quickly fire anyone who doesn't agree with them.
@frgv4060
@frgv4060 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustKrista50 It is offensive to acuse me of victim blaming. So the people that enforce the will of a dictator are victims? I don’t think so. It was Hitler who killed so many? As far as I know he was only a man… it was many other people that did his bidding. If one chooses to do evil to others because it is the safest thing to do it is not being a victim but a coward… Or because some beliefs again it doesn’t make you a victim. The victims are the ones that get killed at the hands of those people.
@frgv4060
@frgv4060 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustKrista50 Moreover…. Aren’t the enforcers of the king or emperor people? And most probably were mere citizens with families prior to do that. So not victims at all.
@JustKrista50
@JustKrista50 2 жыл бұрын
@@frgv4060 Well, you clearly didn't see that I was JOKING with the hash tag. Even though I conveyed that with an emoji. To take your first question: people in high ranks don't go unpunished. The soldiers, following orders, do. It's niave to think people should die in order to disobey their superiors. In that way, all the citizens are victims, not only the ones who perish. Again, I witnessed my own president hire then fire advisors who didn't agree with him. In a country where not following the person in charge means death, people fall in line. Even then, dictators kill advisors for suspecting they don't agree. It then becomes a matter of survival to "prove" your loyalty. You seriously can not underestimate the power of hate and fear. They are riled up to hate all people who don't follow their ideas and fear being called disloyal.
@lordofallusion5862
@lordofallusion5862 2 жыл бұрын
Roman Topic: When did inbreeding really start to effect the rule of the Realm? You may use this question for any ancient empire.
@karistacripe4109
@karistacripe4109 2 жыл бұрын
Random question wouldn't he be called Hercules son of Jupiter if he was going with the Roman form of Hercules
@mikejaramillo9367
@mikejaramillo9367 2 жыл бұрын
That was my question too.
@lindenkamen587
@lindenkamen587 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Im confused a lil bit
@deewesthill4705
@deewesthill4705 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a discussion or debate between historians about the many evil deeds Commodus was accused of doing -- how likely each deed was to be true or false.
@YouTubestolemyhandlethosemofos
@YouTubestolemyhandlethosemofos 2 жыл бұрын
That would be so interesting
@JosePerez-jo5ud
@JosePerez-jo5ud 2 жыл бұрын
Commodus threw some bad ass parties🤣
@bofurthedwarf
@bofurthedwarf 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed he did...😏
@MIKE-TYTHON
@MIKE-TYTHON 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh 300 boys in an orgy sounds lit
@laurat188
@laurat188 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so interesting hearing about this stuff, but I’m glad I wasn’t alive back then
@Sevenigma777
@Sevenigma777 2 жыл бұрын
Gladiator was one of the best movies of it's time when it came out and one of the few ever that made me shed a tear.
@jamesmeppler6375
@jamesmeppler6375 2 жыл бұрын
Yet it's almost entirely fictitious
@edwardsanchez3708
@edwardsanchez3708 2 жыл бұрын
@Dan Stop lying we all heard you were crying at the end of bambi
@JoJoZaka
@JoJoZaka 2 жыл бұрын
@@SnoopyDoofie who gives a shit
@r0ky_M
@r0ky_M 2 жыл бұрын
What part of Gladiator made you cry?
@JustMe-ob3nw
@JustMe-ob3nw 2 жыл бұрын
True - I have watched that movie so many times that I know the dialogues as the characters speak their lines…I love it..
@DoomMomDot
@DoomMomDot Жыл бұрын
I always love it when a historical person turns out to be stranger than his portrayal in media.
@JoJoJoker
@JoJoJoker 2 жыл бұрын
One can argue hypochondria is a modern phenomenon considering fatal transmissible disease was a real concern at the time.
@shannonkohl68
@shannonkohl68 2 жыл бұрын
It's just a specialized paranoia, and it's not paranoia if they're really out to get you.
@katarinatibai8396
@katarinatibai8396 2 жыл бұрын
@@shannonkohl68 Sometime you have it bouth ways - you are maybe paranoid + they are really aut to geth you. They are really there four times in the week to spay on you - but you see them every day - lol
@PositivelyPlaying
@PositivelyPlaying 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the picture of Antoninus is just the same picture but mirrored. Fantastic
@chrisman3965
@chrisman3965 2 жыл бұрын
Hold up....they have a Golden Gate Bridge in Rome? Who knew? 4:12
@empressoftheknownuniverse
@empressoftheknownuniverse 2 жыл бұрын
Have you covered Empress Irene the Eye Gouger? Asking for a friend. 😜
@KingRumar
@KingRumar 2 жыл бұрын
Is it because Irene gouged your friend's eyes out?
@danbrownellfuzzy3010
@danbrownellfuzzy3010 2 жыл бұрын
Don't look that up on a porn site. You'll probably be scarred for life.
@empressoftheknownuniverse
@empressoftheknownuniverse 2 жыл бұрын
@@danbrownellfuzzy3010 Ha! 😄
@empressoftheknownuniverse
@empressoftheknownuniverse 2 жыл бұрын
@@KingRumar It was a running joke with a work friend named Irene. It gave her a boost of confidence and made her easier to work with...and everyone learned some Roman history. 🤓
@kathryncarter6143
@kathryncarter6143 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, sure makes Henry the VIII look like a pure saint!
@brexistentialism7628
@brexistentialism7628 2 жыл бұрын
Rome's emperors. It's insane how many different unique characters came to be known. It's a theatre.
@lindamorris6251
@lindamorris6251 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel!!! Have you done anything on Boudica? She was such a badass!
@laurat188
@laurat188 2 жыл бұрын
@CCP Tube na she was a badass
@danbrownellfuzzy3010
@danbrownellfuzzy3010 2 жыл бұрын
Bet you can Google her statue. It's real important to Brits I think it's by London bridge or ......
@bayoo3
@bayoo3 2 жыл бұрын
Just read The Trials of Apollo: The Dark Prophecy so getting a vid on Commodus recommended to me is quite the treat
@lavinialadlass9432
@lavinialadlass9432 2 жыл бұрын
Love the book. My favorite part is The end.
@joermnyc
@joermnyc 2 жыл бұрын
His behavior after the assassination attempt sounds like a Stalinist purge!
@DamonNomad82
@DamonNomad82 2 жыл бұрын
That makes perfect sense when you consider that Stalin's hero was Ivan the Terrible, who was a similarly cruel and unhinged tyrant.
@aileenhovorka9207
@aileenhovorka9207 2 жыл бұрын
He WAS a weirdo! Bat shit crazy!! Many thanks for another great one 😊😊😊😊😊
@severintrautmann2130
@severintrautmann2130 Жыл бұрын
a friend of mine is a historian and always scolds me when I talk negatively about Commodus, Caligula or Nero.
@Chatisthisrealquestionmark
@Chatisthisrealquestionmark 2 жыл бұрын
epic. and also kind of serendipity that the father was the best emperor the the son the worst.
@richardscanlan3167
@richardscanlan3167 2 жыл бұрын
He wasn't close to the best emperor.That honour would go to Augustus,Rome's first emperor. Then you throw in the likes of Vespasian,Titus,Trajan,Hadrian,Aurelian,Constantine....
@NAzTRAdamUS
@NAzTRAdamUS 2 жыл бұрын
Not a coincidence, Westerner
@tremorsfan
@tremorsfan 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently one of the reasons Marcus Aurelius made Commodus his co emperor was because he hoped it would mellow him out.
@tremorsfan
@tremorsfan 2 жыл бұрын
@@xunqianbaidu6917 So every emperor had a co emperor?
@SuperBararo
@SuperBararo 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see more about how Marcus Aurelius interacted with his son.
@kirbymarchbarcena
@kirbymarchbarcena 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy things can really happen when someone with absolute power gets paranoid
@rursus8354
@rursus8354 2 жыл бұрын
Historia Augusta: "as it is said." Real historians don't value Historia Augusta very highly. If you are referring to historical sources without doing any scrutiny, why don't you just give us a link to Historia Augusta?
@Silvereagledude
@Silvereagledude 2 жыл бұрын
You forget the times in which Commodus grew up….. the Antonine Plague….to say he was raised to be a hypochondriac is somewhat understandable
@UwUOwl
@UwUOwl 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy, I just rewatched Gladiator a few days ago.
@trixdream
@trixdream 2 жыл бұрын
marcus aureliues was the first and only philosopher emperor i think. weird that his son turns out to be a maniac.
@User-54631
@User-54631 2 жыл бұрын
Not too weird, I’d akin it kids born to extreme wealth or child stars . A lot of the times they grow up being very dysfunctional adults
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