The Real Cost of a Schluter Shower

[@LandbergTileTV]

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[@TheHandyman1]

You stirred the pot on this one. Its great for youtube business.

[@tilesetter929]

Lmao yes he did 😂

[@natyong]

What is this off brand "Wess". Seriously though good video.

[@paulperry1489]

How did you protect the valve assembly? I have a rectangular one installed now, but I am trying to figure out how water proof around it. Thank you.

[@poshhomeandgarden9972]

Awesome videos, thanks for posting them! I'm relatively inexperienced with tile but my basic jobs turn out okay because I'm constantly fixing my own mistakes. Actually, got pretty bogged down and miserable in dealing with consistent problems then after noticing your videos, got a second wind and a newfound desire to continue and get better. Love your passion and commitment to detail...it's inspiring!

[@LandbergTileTV]

Happy my videos help! Those are kind words and I appreciate it more than you know!

[@teh60]

For my tub surround I used Kerdi, Kerdi band, tub spout seal, shower arm seal, Jolly profile, and Ditra for the floor. It went real smooth and I was impressed with the quality of Schluter products. Very thorough example and demonstration, nice job.

[@LandbergTileTV]

Yes sir! smooth and easy install. Thanks for the comment 👊

[@marmaruresti3688]

what is the labor cost of instalation?

[@ceeIoc]

How does it compare to wedi?

[@jeffostroff]

that's about the cost fpr me too, although I prefer t use Kerdi panels, they are lighter than any other boards. also, love the music, who do you guys use for music?

[@LandbergTileTV]

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[@LandbergTileTV]

*Soundcloud

[@whiteyjoyoung1115]

Will waterproofing walls with mapei aqua defense above the kerdi band flashing void the warranty of the shower pan ?

[@LandbergTileTV]

I believe it will

[@oldgreenhouserenovationsin5344]

We use Schluter a lot. Did you see that now you need to use Schluter brand thinset (not easily available) and register the install with Schluter to obtain the warranty?

[@jwd215]

Wow, you probably have to complete their training class too

[@LandbergTileTV]

We talked about this with our rep 2 months ago and was told that using their thinset is not necessary for warranty. Also, he didn't mention anything about registering, we'll have to look into that.

[@LandbergTileTV]

Negative, only follow their guidelines. I know this for a fact.

[@oldgreenhouserenovationsin5344]

@@LandbergTileTV Good to hear. I'll double check with my rep and let you know if I hear any different. I was just looking for specs for something on Schluter's website recently and ran across this: www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/faq/lifetime-warranty-steps

[@davidkilpatrick3689]

Yes,absolutely correct

[@creedbarnett4948]

Simple, fast, warranty, and great support network, best all-around for my Benjamins. Thanks for consistently producing great content!

[@LandbergTileTV]

Thank you sir for the comment 👊

[@aarjenis4118]

I have one question does anybody know how to charge the system as an installer I live in Southern California and I just wanna make sure I charge my boss right we’re going to be installing shower pan and walls

[@freshstartfitness8875]

4:24 you can always tell a tiler by the fact that the underside of his forearms are always caked in thinset 😂. Me too always

[@johnperez1175]

I try to wear long sleeves alot but I'm in Texas heat-_-...ha "I prolly haven't been in the Tile business as long as yall/or him though" (Great work/Tips)

[@RaulTorresMorfin]

I installed that some valve in my master bathroom reno (from Amazon) - One thing I noticed is that whenever another water fixture is engaged something inside that valve makes a noise....have you noticed?

[@LandbergTileTV]

No sir, have not noticed any noise like that. We have installed this same valve many times without that problem.

[@DumbCarGuy]

Just remember folks Schluter is just another option, It is not required or necessary. Professional Tilers can build a waterproof shower without the help of Schluter. I do it all the time.

[@nevinkuser9892]

That's the truth. Every shower outside of USA is waterproof and never uses this stuff. But I guess there's a benefit to have a prefabbed soap tray. The drain is pretty nice too.

[@thelog86]

I prefer roll on water proof, it's cheaper and easier to get right, you really can't mess that up, if you mess up, it was b4 you put the membrane on

[@torreyintahoe]

In another video you demonstrate how to use kerdi board to flatten and plumb a wall. Can this technique be used with green board and kerdi membrane? Thanks

[@omarpineda5132]

Good videos good help just one thing how much is the cost on labor ?

[@alcapony732]

Let’s be honest, no brand will warranty the entire project if you don’t use their materials. The shluter system is more expensive for the project start to finish. Comparing it to traditional shower pan liner and roll on waterproofing. Shluter just trying to be more DYI er friendly.

[@Dtileandremodeling]

Awesome video! You send it direct to star crap tile?

[@blazrunjic6531]

Is thinset waterproof?

[@ijursic]

My customers want Schluter and I like it too. The price is just the price. In the end it is a viable product. I don't do liner showers anymore. I have seen too many issues to deal with the old ways anymore. It ts true that if done "properly" you can make any system work, but I just got sick of dealing with all the inconsistencies and inherent risks of accepting the shoddy work of all the tradespeople working ahead of me. Even at a higher price, it is worth every penny. The last time i ever did a liner shower, I put Schluter Kerdi over it just to make sure my customer doesnt have to deal with any issues and frankly to avoid any lawsuits. If a builder is adamant that I do a pan liner shower, I tell him I won't do any part of his job if he refuses to pay the minor extra cost to cover over the mudbed with kerdi. If they refuse that, I haven't lost a friend. Quality doesn't have to cost more but in many cases quality does cost more. In the end, everyone has a higher or lower definition of what that word means.

[@michaelhorn9114]

Schlueter is absolutely great stuff!!!

[@tilesetter929]

God forbid you have to tear out a Kerdi shower system due to the tile was completely wrong on a new house out in the field because of a designer the home owner was out of country shower sat for months and believe me I would have loved to had a durrock wall and mud pan that day! Schluter is no joke I have been installing the system for over 7 years now we do 600 new construction houses a year in Va with 12 different Builders from single family all the way in the million dollar custom range! I am a mud mechanic from the late 80’s early 90’s walls and floors 30 years of tile setting trained by the old tile guys..I’ve seen the times change through the durrock the glass back mesh you name it and every kind of roll on water proofing they make. Red guard is garbage it peels. Hardi backer is compressed siding if you can split sideways with a putty knife that’s the integrity of your substrate. I still do mud pans occasionally with funky turns in them for linear drains but it’s all kerdi for the membrane!

[@BKMDano17]

Overpriced crap that is not waterproof

[@killerrush77]

so i CANNOT put this right on to regular sheet rock?

[@LandbergTileTV]

Yes you can, any substrate, but would recommend drywall or use Kerdi board for the backerboard 👊

[@dinohudson1432]

Dry wall substrate for dry applications, not for wet applications.

[@mmholling87]

Outstanding video! Thank you for sharing! I've decided to go schluter based solely off your videos!

[@LandbergTileTV]

Good choice! It makes simple sense...

[@RafaelTileWorks]

Wow, the good old 4 years ago days. I am at about $950 contractor price per standard shower material cost with long niche and curb (8x5x3).

[@carlosrios6390]

Price for labor?

[@mitchellboyd8992]

Been using schluter for 3 years, i have found on any shower 4x4 and under is about 300$ more, and larger showers run about 500$ more. O and i will only use Schluter Systems, not going back to the old way👍

[@blazrunjic6531]

Are seams waterproofed?

[@oldgreenhouserenovationsin5344]

Very good video series, you clearly do quality work. I'd like to see your grouting tools and techniques. Thanks.

[@LandbergTileTV]

Thanks! I'll do a video on grouting soon.

[@erwinwalker1810]

Marshall town grout floats are the best thing since sliced bread

[@gustavouribe518]

I grew up in southern Cali helping my dad doing hot mops so I always used him to waterproof my showers than I go traditional black paper diamond mesh scratch float just learning to see if I need it in the future

[@cfomusic73]

I'm done with schluter! Pro shield all the way now! It's 100% waterproof boards. So if you happen to Nick the board no worries....it waterproof all the way through the board....... Oh and non of that crazy banding. Just seal joints just like it's competitor..... But less expensive. Alot less labor intensive.

[@Ramdodge582]

can you use this system with a steamer?

[@LandbergTileTV]

Yes, a Schluter shower can be used for a steam room/bath

[@josephv5346]

Umm just so you know you need either the foam boards or kerdi DS

[@BlueTurfer]

I’m about to start an install. I’m concerned about the inside corners. Have any videos just about those?

[@LandbergTileTV]

No, but there are numerous video's out on the install process. 👍

[@LethalLeftHook]

Another great one Landberg! Thank you! Question: can you recommend an unmodified thinset to use with Schluter products?

[@LandbergTileTV]

Thanks! We use Kerabond

[@boltup5566]

Do you have do any extra waterproofing around the cutouts? Around the shower drain, niche and fixtures? Edit. I saw that circular patch for the fixtures...what about the drain and niche? Also have you ever heard them honor a warranty issue? Im sure they just say you did it wrong and wipe their hands of your issue.

[@LandbergTileTV]

The kit comes with waterproofing for the drain, and the prefabricated niche is already waterproofed 👊

[@ELDecano1971]

Am i missing something? Don't get it! Why did you put the shower pan last? Why not put the shower pan first than have the wall sit on top of pan? that way if there is a leak, it goes straight down the pan instead of between the pan and walls?

[@ericness9744]

Here is the fail of this system, and this applies to any tile install materials warranty. If there is a failure it's the installers fault regardless. EVERY single time. Can anyone here give proof of where a tile related supplier honored a warranty of their product? Especially a failed Schluter system.

[@tofuroshi]

The warranty usually offers reimbursement for the price of the product, and NOT the cost of the tile, tearout, and reinstall labor. A traditional shower pan like chloralloy has a lifetime warranty, which means they will reimburse you $60 if it fails. You can assume the same from Schluter, so you'll get your $320 back if you're lucky.

[@cdebacaa1]

Have you ever used any of the other membranes that are out there? If so your opinion on any of them.

[@LandbergTileTV]

Which membranes are you talking about?

[@cdebacaa1]

@@LandbergTileTV Well the only other one I've really researched is the one that USG has and their shower system.

[@yuvanbaldwinew9282]

This is worth every penny period.

[@davidkilpatrick3689]

The only problem with using drywall with Kerdi is if a leak occurs in the plumbing at the valve Or pipe trashing the drywall

[@TheTechGuider]

You didnt ad the shower pan

[@burnz163]

If you start tiling immediately, the you skipped your 24-hour water test. Here's the way I've done it for almost 20 years with no call backs... EVER 7 Sheets of durock $70 Half a bucked of red guard $80 3 bags of quicrete $20 Oatey drain and liner $65 Fiber tape $15 Misc supplies $50 Grand total of $300 And guess what. I have double waterproofing. If my red guard on the pan should ever fail, I have a bladder under it.

[@nevinkuser9892]

That's a lot cheaper.

[@nickbailey202]

This is exactly what I was thinking looking for. Thank you.

[@LandbergTileTV]

Thanks for watching!

[@jeremyturner3469]

$671 just for the shower kit at home depot total cost over $1440 and don't forget they won't warranty unless you use a $74 schluter trowel things have gotten a lot more expensive

[@johnperez1175]

Around what estimate/range of $$ would it cost to attend theses 2 workshops +warranty for a shower like this one you did...??

[@LandbergTileTV]

The workshops are FREE and they feed you great breakfast, lunches and dinners! You aromatically receive the warranty when you register the shower build with what was used.

[@Pedro.Chapps]

its hard to Find Schluter Here in Ireland down south, Do you charge day rate or instaling it or have you set out a price depending on bathroom size ?

[@a5sarola]

You can order a kit on Amazon.

[@LandbergTileTV]

We charge differently per job

[@Pedro.Chapps]

@@a5sarola ah did not know that thx

[@luketutolo]

Are all houses in america wooden framed. So much easier in australia with brick and plastered walls

[@jeffreyfranz8399]

Big help. Great passion for your trade and work!

[@gentbar7296]

need that system... WHERE ?

[@LandbergTileTV]

online

[@erasamus1057]

Won't unmodified thinset wick water around those corners over time? I know this is an old video but I still feel like it is shady

[@showscapelandscapes5634]

Do you void your warranty because you have put screws through to install the ledger board?

[@LandbergTileTV]

Negative

[@danielfeldman7913]

For most of your projects, do you typically use green board and then apply the membrane over it, or will you sometimes use Kerdi Board? How do you you decide which is the better option for a project? I assume Kerdi Board is slightly more $$, but it also eliminates one step. But then again, you'd have to do the Kerdi Band so maybe it doesn't save a step after all!

[@cwb124]

One thing I’m confused about. I thought schluter shower pans were already waterproof. But the ones I’ve seen are orange while yours was white. Confused.

[@LandbergTileTV]

That is the old style pan. This video is old, they now waterproof the prefab pans.

[@johnperez1175]

You do great work "I have so many questions but I'll try to keep it short...ha I'm trying to start my own ' very small' business as a Tile installer... I understand that to a builders/contractors perspective it's very important to be adequate on $$$/Time/Code/Warranty... But In your opinion as far as quality (if you were installing in your personal shower/house) 1. Would you use this membrane product or a shower pan liner for the floor...?? (I know dealing with mortar mix underneath can be a pain-_-ha) "I like the way the membrane on works on walls though) 2. There are many versions/types of thinset from 18$-35$ 'I think' which type/kind would you prefer if it were your personal shower...? 3. Would you use 1/2 Hardy board on walls for a personal shower..?? (I've heard green board is up to code for showers buh feels to close to weak sheetrock to me wouldn't 1/2 hardyboard last longer & be more sturdy +1/2hardy is equal/level most of the time with sheetrock aswell)

[@LandbergTileTV]

We install Kerdi foam pans and dry pack mortar beds. They both work. We like working with Schluter Ditra set ($15 bag) and I would use Kerdi board on my shower walls. If all installed properly, all methods/boards will last long.

[@yuchuga8341]

Hi Landberg, what thinset do you use to glue all the waterproofing membrane to the backerboard?

[@MrTooTechnical]

Very nice. Your costs are accurate. I wonder if you do a seven day water test will your Schulter beat a monolithic coating of red guard.

[@LandbergTileTV]

I would never do a seven day flood test. That is crazy, a shower pan is never meant to hold that much water for more than 24 hours.Those tests are interesting, but silly at the same time.

[@johndangelo9630]

What about WEDI ? What are your thoughts and experiences about this brand?

[@LandbergTileTV]

I don't have experience with Wedi, Schluter is just more available to us.

[@davidwm]

Thanks, this was helpful. There's no doubt Schluter is the best product on the market; best bang for the buck!

[@LandbergTileTV]

Yes sir it is! thanks!

[@wallacegrommet9343]

Ever roll on a couple coats of latex bonding agent onto the blueboard prior to applying the Kerri membrane?

[@LandbergTileTV]

No sir.

[@jaimesustaita285]

hello! im sorry i didnt get your name, i think u r by far the best tile setter,i love your work, u did a curbless shower in one of your vids, and as an amputee and at my age i would like to have one for myself, only i didnt see how u did the shower floor.

[@LandbergTileTV]

yes sir, we removed the concrete shower slab, poured a new concrete slab lower to accept the shower pan. There are many ways to do a curbless shower. You can use google to investigate...

[@jaimslaw]

Wow, old video is right. Funny that the current cost is what is claimed at the intro as not being the cost. Its now double the cost in inly 3 years while cement board has stayed relatively the same (and is 60% less.

[@LandbergTileTV]

Yup, old video. We have moved to Laticrete

[@jakeizlove]

I'm going to give it a shot soon.

[@swaggerin1981]

In my region (Ontario Canada) a 38" x 60" schluter kerdi shower kit costs = $595.80. niche: 28"x12" = $118.47. Drain grate and flange = $159.94. 4 sheets green drywall = $123.48. 50lb bag of unmodified schluter thinset = $31.37 (2021 prices total) $1,029.06. NO labour. Quite a difference in costs

[@LandbergTileTV]

This video is a few years old

[@lovera3878]

I thought the pan already came waterproofed. It is only waterproofed if you have to extend it with mud. I working on diying my bathroom and will use schluter. Even my plumber said it was better than the old ways.

[@LandbergTileTV]

It does now, this is an old video when it did not.

[@eddiegodfroy7621]

ok, so if I work for Schluter and get a 65% discount. What would it cost?

[@alanlicht7633]

Cool video. Did you have to frame out and reinforce the niche on the back wall? Looks wider then the studs. Thanks.

[@LandbergTileTV]

Yes, we always add framing to support the prefabricated niche 👊

[@hiscreation8129]

What's the going rate for installing this system? I know it differs in different markets but wondering a ballpark.

[@josephv5346]

High end tile setter 50-90/h quantity of work dependent apprentice 20-35/h Average people shoot for 350-500 a day. 6-12 hours. Small jobs like this are as much as one can get away with. Aka zipcode and house size will be the determining factor.

[@the.santos.lives.]

there is no "going rate" everyone is different

[@clownworldpa2590]

What about tax?

[@steverone7623]

We don't do the volume of showers you do of course, primarily using wedi. We tried the shluter kerdi membrane and we all complained the whole time about how we wish we were using wedi. I suppose its just like the Ford vs chevy vs dodge

[@krehbein]

I think your talking about the wedi panels? If so, totally agree with you. A lot easier and cleaner to do. Put the panel up, seal the joints. No BS with drywall, thinset, kerdi, kerdi corners, kerdi bands, buildup, etc.....

[@steverone7623]

@@krehbein yes the whole system is a dream to work with!

[@patrickmclaughlin6013]

Sal just did a video railing on putting gypsum in a wet/shower area. Just not a fan of this Schluter type stuff.

[@Kn1ght2025]

Inlike that kind and of nomusic too.electric gems! Don't know the name song though.

[@GuardianX99]

Will Daltile sell to non-contractors / professionals though? Looking through their site all I see are Daltile centers that are open to the public but only sell to contractors / professionals.

[@LandbergTileTV]

Yes they will,anyone can walk in and buy Schluter there

[@GuardianX99]

@@LandbergTileTV Thanks a ton! Will have to check it out.

[@mlrich1]

It will cost you more than it would a contractor. 25%-45% more.

[@LandbergTileTV]

@@mlrich1 That is NOT correct. I know for certain it is the same cost to a contractor (me) vs. a homeowner diyer. If the shop you purchase at is charging more for homeowners, than they are taking advantage of them, period.

[@mattwendorf1110]

@@LandbergTileTV It's a fact it cost more for a homeowner to buy vs a contractor that is buying stuff every day. Your pricing is high based on what I'm paying for schluter products as well.

[@johnsteier3535]

I really enjoy watching your videos. Your tool reviews are great! Your waterproofing system cost as much in California as it does in Iowa. I hope you add some mark up to that as well?

[@LandbergTileTV]

Thanks for the watch and view! 👊

[@Fl4m3thro3er]

Can I use2x4 to make my own curb and just water proof with the membrane?

[@LandbergTileTV]

You need to install membrane over a substrate (backboard)

[@yourcontractingbusiness646]

appreciate you energy, but many people who do take the workshops still install the product incorrectly.

[@AnthonyFloresCPA]

Great Video! Where are you located where green board is up to code? How much would you charge somebody for a tub/shower conversion to walk in shower that was was 3x5’? Schluter system, labor costs only, not fixtures, or tile costs included?

[@Tako2e]

Made that look easy braddah🤙🏽. Did this have a curb as well? You should do a step by step on this type of normal kit with curb and niche 🤙🏽

[@LandbergTileTV]

Thanks! No, this was a curbless shower, video coming soon!

[@RoddyDa]

I agree...I wish you would have slowed down the steps. You got a new subscriber non the less.

[@LandonRoy-cv9rt]

And do prices from The Home Depot or Lowes cause %99 of people dont shop/have accounts at flooring discount distributer stores

[@brianbrooks1025]

I have over $1,500 including heated floor, thermostat, wiring, preformed pan, and styrofoam panels, drain kit, etc.

[@roqueayala9268]

Thank you man it’s a really good information 👍👏🏻👏🏻❤️

[@lrc87290]

Great Video. Now to be even Greater compare it Wedi cost and time to install. Thanks again for producing tile video that people want to watch. People can only watch so many videos of someone cutting and sticking tile on the wall.

[@LandbergTileTV]

Yes! A Wedi video coming soon my friend! 👊

[@hereticxxx9317]

Unless your using Kerdi coll to install the membrane, it isnt water proof. Just highly water resistant.

[@ryanduke70]

in 2019, the cost of hardibacker, mud pan, redguard and 288 beers was $616 warranty. lawl. good luck with that.

[@AC.Prince]

Will the floor kit work in a 3'6"× 8'0" curb less shower floor?

[@lisakukla459]

An eight foot shower sounds so dreamy to this tiny home dweller. 😍

[@Kyle9o4]

Thanks for the breakdown. People tend to think Schluter is ridiculously expensive but once its broken down and put into perspective with a warranty as well, why not go with this method? Great videos, I enjoy your installs and hope to use some of your tricks in the future.

[@LandbergTileTV]

Yes sir, needed to share the true facts on Sclhuter cost.

[@ninjapetee7051]

I wish this video was out 2 weeks ago when I started my shower as as a homeowner and a DYI guy. The time I have wasted doing it the traditional method I would of been done already!.

[@LandbergTileTV]

For the next remodel!

[@MattFreytag]

Say “Schluter System Shower” 10 times really quick.

[@ShootStraight84]

It’s not close man the price of conventional stuff comes out wayyyyyy cheaper , but you don’t have warranty but on the other hand do it right and you’re golden . And what you do for different size showers ? They sale diferente size pans ?

[@peterjones9646]

These aren't my favorite systems but you just place the drain in position and dry pack the rest of the floor. Works well enough. I still use pan liners all the time but these are growing on me.

[@crosstheline.1969]

I did thumbs up !! I wonder if it's OK to post your video to my channel with Korean subtitle. I'll do it with your permission. BTW, do you go to IBS Las Vegas ?

[@LandbergTileTV]

Sure buddy, go ahead. Thanks

[@thefingerofgod69]

What’s the name of that shower again? Cause I don’t think I caught the name. 🤣

[@LandbergTileTV]

👊👊👊

[@thefingerofgod69]

Landberg Tile DIY TV 😁

[@alfredmedina9398]

Damn where u buying ur green board for 25$ a sheet lol ! There usauslly 14 - 15

[@apex007]

You say completely waterproof but I know you saw Isaac's video. It would be cool if you would consider doing a similar test to see if the results turn out the same for you.

[@MD-tb6eh]

Which video?

[@LandbergTileTV]

There NEVER will be standing water in a shower pan for 7 days. If you do, you have MUCH bigger problems than a very small amount of moisture residue on the drypack.

[@apex007]

@@LandbergTileTV sure, I agree! But you will have water and moisture constantly hitting it. And slowly the thinset joints will absorb all that water. The test was meant to show long term water exposure in a condensed time frame. They can't claim to have a superior product if it can't handle the same thing as a liquid membrane.

[@LandbergTileTV]

@@apex007 www.schlueter.de/media/2018_Tile_SchwimmbadHH.pdf

[@apex007]

@@LandbergTileTV OK, I had a chance to read it over better. "Overall, some 360 m² of KERDI were installed in the Hamburg swimming pool; expertly bonded with the two-component sealing adhesive KERDICOLL-L". Kerdicoll is not available in the US. So to make it truely waterproof you can't use thinset and can't get the required product in the US!

[@nathanseicean3886]

Haha The only way you can acquire a Warranty is if you get every product number, such as on the kit...Niche....drain...even thinset bag and submit that into Shluter would your shower be under warranty... oh and my I add that Shluter would only warranty the prep material and that’s it, not your tile...labor...and other heavy damages. Lol good luck on your warranty. Oh and if you sell your house the new owner doesn’t withhold that warranty.

[@ndsrocks1]

Its still just a sheetrock shower with a membrane, an water ingress will cause failure. But warranty can cover it because they make so much off they're products.

[@kittypigeon]

What schluter needs to do is design a customizable drain location pan slope for installation in crazy high rise condominiums where drain locations are fixed, in odd places, and cannot be moved without significant cost and time. They do that, and I'll use schluter ever single time, because it's great.

[@DavidMoncrief]

You can buy the kits, cut them (they are just styrofoam anyway) and fill in any gaps with mortar.

[@eddiegodfroy7621]

even better question, can I get a shower the size of my bathroom?

[@stich1960]

If you can pay for it sure lol

[@madcowusa4277]

Trouble with Schluter is one can't find everything you need at Lowes or Home Depot. They have fabric but very few stores sell kerdi boards and even then only in little 32" x 48" size. None stock Kerdi Fix or Schluter All Set and good luck finding the right square notch trowel (1/8 x 1/8) or an unmodified thinset that's not the questionable $7 bag. Had to piece my kerdi board shower together from two distant stores and Amazon. Great video however, thank you.

[@jasoncyr9855]

Dude that's YOUR COST! If you're not marking the materials if and charging to install, you're not a good business man.

[@randylofthouse2117]

Jason Cyr I agree, thankfully our clients don’t mind paying our quotes material & labor, just to avoid listening to this annoying and fast-paced SHAM WOW of an anxiety pitch. Must of been frustrated when he produced this video?

[@Heb101922]

He's comparing the actual costs for materials for the one installing the Schulter in contrast to the traditional shower with a mud bed, cement wall board, vinyl pan liner, etc. He's not talking about the total cost of the install for the client.

[@Here_Today_]

Literally, I just wanted to know cost of materials. The price of knowledge, experience, and labor is something else.

[@tilesetter929]

Add extra for a bag of modified grey thinset to set the tray pan with they recommend now that you use modified for that. Also you used a couple outside corners around that window lol the drain only has two for the curb not sure about what’s in the kit we buy and stock volume of Schluter Kerri product as we install 600 houses per year 😂 I like the video your close it’s about 630$ but hey that’s a great deal for a great product!

[@rainmaker3700]

"Most places" do not allow green board in wet areas anymore. So if you are pulling permit, good luck with the green board.

[@rideauviewconstruction717]

There are three things key things you show in video that make the system work for me, other than cost. Scissors, foam base and Kerdi. They are all light weight and easy to transport and work with. Have enough stuff to haul around as it is...just saying.

[@LandbergTileTV]

Yes they are, light and easy.

[@boltup5566]

@@LandbergTileTV how does the foam pad work over plywood/osb...just non mod thinset? Also is the pad presloped?

[@creedbarnett4948]

@@boltup5566 yes, modified over wood substrate, and yes the top side of the tray is sloped from the corners to the drain. Landberg has a video on large format tile on the tray that best illustrates how it is sloped.

[@bdklinksgaard]

You always have to feather out the pan with thinset with the foam to get the proper slope. Those may be quicker, but they sound hollow and flimsy. Old school mortar base with kerdi membrane is the only way to go!

[@askthisoldtileman5401]

Only contractors that have a account with daltile can buy from them ,so most people will buy from floor decor . Or Lowe’s.

[@LandbergTileTV]

I don't have an account with Daltile, and we still get it at this price. I can assure you that they don't require anything to purchase their kits. Anyone can buy it at this price sir.

[@askthisoldtileman5401]

Landberg Tile DIY TV sorry not in tx you need a account with daltile. So most people buy from Lowe’s or floor decor. And it’s the same price anyway. Never use this product. The way they are showing failures with this product am starting t wonder. Mmmm.

[@69A12SuperBee]

And conversely three coats of red gard on a Hardibacker enclosure is 60 bucks. Oatey drain, PVC liner and a mud bed. Another 50. I guess both will achieve the same outcome.

[@MookieMan1]

Hugh G. Rekshin add in all the labor and dry time for that and you will equal at least a day of labor costs. Plus an overall inferior system hands down.

[@a5sarola]

Way more room for total shower failure errors doing it the old way.

[@460sw3]

Except for no warranty and a lot of extra time for you're method. I can be setting tile the same day with a schluter or laticrete shower. And know I have them behind me....time is money and liquid applied just takes to long, does it work....sure, if everything is perfect and you get the proper thickness on the backboard. As far as the floor is concerned, sorry but mud bed and liner pans eventually fail. And from the very first time you turn that shower on the pan is saturated from that point on

[@LandbergTileTV]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but let me break it down on average for the system you are talking about: $100 backerboard $100 pan liner and mortar $20 Drain kit/ABS $20 Lumber $120 Two gallons Redgard/Topical membrane (3 coats on curb/curbless, 3 coats on niche, 2 coats on shower walls) ______ $360.00 So, for $250 more using Schluter, you save 8 hours on labor and dry time. Make your choice, save $250, or save 8 hours of labor/dry time and avoiding harmful dust/fumes and bodily abuse.

[@R2Mike]

@@LandbergTileTV exactly! It's the down time I cant understand.