the REAL cost to charge a Tesla (revealing my electricity bill)

[@TeddyLeppard]

If “most” cars on the road were electric, it’s guaranteed the utilities would raise rates because of the increased demand on the grid.

[@chrisbeckner2103]

Untrue….considering power is mostly still generated from fossil fuels, the same barrel of oil that used to create gasoline is also used to fuel power stations. If there was no longer demand for that barrel in gasoline production then the raw goods cost to create electricity is lower. In addition, alternative and improving forms of electricity production are coming to market daily further reducing the cost of electricity production. At current the increasing cost vector is not production but rather storage. Electricity can be generated quite cheaply. The problem occurs on the demand side when everyone wants the same power all at the same time. If we invest in power storage instead of demonizing fossil fuels, then we can more easily transition to electric vehicles.

[@bobbyboucher5309]

Power is already going through the roof. Someone else's greed owns you until people stand up for themselves.

[@DerekRoss1958]

Excellent! That would mean my solar panels would save me even more money!

[@donaldmarusak6501]

@@chrisbeckner2103 GREAT NEWS! THEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAN HELP PAY FOR THOSE CARS AND THE UPKEEP...

[@chrisbeckner2103]

@@donaldmarusak6501 I am genuinely confused as to how my explanation and providing factual information on these issues could elicit your response. At best, you replied to the wrong person and at worst you’re just trolling.

[@rwells3376]

You can't just use the Kw charge, there is taxes, surcharges, recovery fees and whatever else they can dream up to add to your bill.

[@alphanation368]

Yup my bill is loaded with those ridiculous charges. Administration charge, distribution charge, transmission charge, local access fee.

[@aceace605]

My last bill was 1552 kWh for $170 or 10.8 cents per kWh including everything. I know my electricity is cheaper than hers but my point really is when they use those posted 0.17 per kWh or whatever it is they are accounting for the fees ect. They aren't just cherry picking the energy chrage rate alone which in my case is 10 cents. The extras only add almost another 1 penny. The reality is battery cars are just much cheaper to power if you compare electric to gas. Of course the Tesla is wicked expensive. It's much cheaper to purchase and operate a used 4 year old any typical gas/hybird/battery car vs a new Tesla if you do a price per mile comparison but Tesla is the luxury version of battery cars. You're paying for all the bells and whistles. Basic Service Charge ($0.45 x 29 Days) 13.05 Energy Charge ($0.10082 x 1,552 kWh) 156.47 Electric DSM ($0.00137 x 1,552 kWh) 2.13 Electric Fuel Adjustment ($0.00050 x 1,552 kWh) 0.78 Economic Relief Surcredit ($-0.00343 x 1,552 kWh) -5.32 Environmental Surcharge (1.520% x $167.11) 2.54 Home Energy Assistance Fund Charge 0.30 Total Charges $169.95

[@rwells3376]

@@aceace605 Now my bill I just got comes out to 0.1596 per kwh which is about 1/3 more expensive than yours. So in order to get the real picture you would have to have an accurate percentage rate across the country. Now I'm not saying that electric isn't less expensive at the preset time compared to gas. But we also need to take into consideration all aspects, such as use of vehicle. I have a 3/4 ton truck with a diesel engine, I use it to haul heavy loads of lumber, how would that stack up to an electric vehicle? I'm an electrical engineer, so I'm not against electric anything. But I am a realist, and although it is useful it's no silver bullet. And I am sick and tired of the false claims. Now that goes for everything, not just this. Too much hype, too many lies. That is especially true for all of the alternate energy green crap. Nobody tell the whole truth. If they did, nobody would be behind it except those that are making the billions off of it. I hope you get my point.

[@aceace605]

@@rwells3376 - Yeah I live in one of the cheapest electric zones in the country. Sort of lucky there. I was just pointing out when they calculate the cost per mile on hybirds in videos like this they usually use the overall rate. The higher the cost of gas the better those battery cars look but you are also correct. You always have to compare apples to apples in function of car, maintenance of car, etc. A battery or hybird doesn't work very well in trucks yet. Therese a few smaller trucks but they sure aren't hauling a boat. I finally jumped into the hybird market about a year ago because I was looking for a small used car with high mpg where the maintenance or even purchase price wouldn't eat up the difference. I started looking at them back in the early 2000s but the prices difference back then and the risk of buying an expensive replacement battery couldn't offset the difference to gas even when it hit $4.00 a gallon for a year or so. There's still trade offs on top of that. We bought a Prius prime which is fairly comfortable but it only seats 4 specifically because battery cars are incredibly weight sensitive. Generally we're solo or duo in it for commutes and we deliver sometimes as well. It's great for that but you can't haul much. I'm still a little worried about maintenance. Oil changes are easy but I'm not sure about things like brakes, etc. I usually change my own brakes but I don't know how simple or hard it is on this prius. I will say the oil is very simple with both the plug and filter being right out of a covered area from the bottom. It's easier than my GMC Truck which has a convoluted access to the filter from the top through a bunch of other components.

[@rwells3376]

@@aceace605 The real issue I was addressing was the accuracy of info. For example, when they post KW used, that is a problem. Electricity is measured in KWH, and then that doesn't take into consideration all of those extra fees I mentioned in my first comment. So if you were to calculate the KWH used at the rate charged, it would be inaccurate because of all of the extra charges on your bill. So the person contemplating an electric vehicle would think it would be much cheaper to operate then what it really is. Very misleading !!! Now maintenance is another issue all together. Years ago I worked as a mechanic. I has $30k invested in tools, and as the cars rapidly changed the cost of tools was soaring. I was giving up about25% 0f my paycheck to the tool trucks every week. It got to the point that I decided to stop spending that much on tools and soon after I changed careers because of it. Now we are entering a realm of vehicles that are so vastly different and much more complicated that the average mechanic will need a degree to wok on these cars. This will drive down the mechanics available and drive the repair cost up. Once again another unsuspecting result to passed on to the consumer. When you start talking about regenerative braking, inhub motors, motor controllers and all of that computer controlled, which requires specific diagnostic equipment, where does that leave the average person? You do know electric cars were here before internal combustion cars, and for these and several other reasons they failed to become a mainstay transportation source. And then we haven't even started to talk about the carbon emissions to produce the power, the chemicals and rare earth elements in the batteries, just to start. This is no silver bullet, but it is a great way for the wealthy to get even wealthier. And that is what this is all about. Do a real analysis of the cost and carbon created to produce a solar panel, or a wind generator, take into consideration the life expectancy and the maintenance costs and you will see it for what it really is.

[@EricCosner]

Wow. I just realized how crazy cheap my electric is. I pay around 10 cents per kWh. Driving a Tesla would be super cheap for me I’m guessing.

[@toddmuncy2697]

The national average is about 12 cents. LA is stupid and in so many ways, but gas costs twice as much so it all evens out.

[@kevinsaj604]

If Shelby's is this cheap, Imagine how cheap your bill would be! 😅

[@magarity12]

Yes it is. Probably costs us 40 per month to drive 2 of them in IL.

[@nafnaf0]

that's pretty good, the average in the United States is actually $0.11/kWh which is about equivalent to paying $1.10 per gallon of gasoline.

[@OlJackBurton]

@@nafnaf0 The national average for gasoline year round is around $2.00 give or take so (although it is going up), so about half the "fuel" cost to drive an EV...

[@BengyM]

Curious. What’s the lifetime of the batteries? What’s the replacement cost of the batteries? What’s the impact on the environment of mining nickel for those batteries?

[@klncow]

Batteries are $ 20000+ dollars.

[@hondaftwg9543]

10 years. And there non recyclable. Uses petrol to extract lithium uses petrol to refine lithium. Uses petrol to manufacture vehical. Imagin if these dumb asses spent a tad more time in making the gasoline engine more efficient, and put a proper filter on the exhaust.... but no here we are with our thumbs up our asses. You cant put a price on stupid... oh wait.....

[@TheBrownSys]

Relatively short. Very high. Very high.

[@marcchaffee7751]

cost ?? way , way more than gas engines . Biden is lying to us all .

[@johnvogel5885]

The impact on the environment doesn’t matter because they mine for them in 3rd world countries😂😂

[@darreno1450]

Some things to consider when comparing gas to electric. Compare to cars YOU would own, not cars that have the highest gas mileage. People don't necessarily by a Tesla to save on gas, although they most certainly will. There's performance, automation and low maintenance as reasons to buy one. I moved from a Camaro SS to a Tesla, so when I do comparisons, I compare the Camaro to the Tesla , not a Corolla to the Tesla. So, for more performance, I'm saving a whole lot in gas. As for charging at home. If you have a level 2 charger or a 14-50 (50 amp) plug installed, you can schedule the car to start charging during off-peak hours. So my car starts its charge after 10pm. People that use regular 110 or 120 Volt (15-20amps) outlets will find it harder to use schedule charging because of how so the car charges. So getting a 14-50 plug installed will do wonders and should pay for itself in the long run.

[@Andrewkc1969]

I sort of agree with you. But she is trying to give an average example, so she compared using an average ICE car. I have a XC40 Volvo Recharge that I use as my daily driver, and a 2020 Corvette. even me using that example doesn't work. Why doesn't it work? Because most of the time I am driving my electric, which means I'm not driving my Corvette. One could easily argue that I'm saving money simply because I'm not driving my Corvette. This is all about comparison for data sake, not reality. The nice thing about an EV is that it doesn't matter if it's a Prius or a Porsche, the electricity costs the same. Not so in the ICE model.

[@robhartshorn6823]

Did you consider the lifespan of the vehicle. What's the value of the Tesla when the battery goes bad and can you recycle the battery, how much is a new battery. My shop works on hybrids and the vehicle is usually sold for scrap or parts when it's time for a new battery.

[@hatespeechandgraphicviolen6141]

Price depends on local cost per unit of energy. It also typically needs a house to charge it.

[@vanheath5382]

For my Tesla Model 3 Standard Range it’s $24-29 a month. I charge almost every night during Off-Peak times. I drive 1700 miles a month. I used to get about 350 miles to the tank in my Toyota Corolla (13.2 Gal tank). 1700 miles is 4.85 tanks of gas. Currently gas is $4.12/Gal where I live. ($4.12 x 13.2) x 4.85 = $263.76 So basically the cost to home charge is 10% of the cost of gas.

[@kirbyrules55]

what is your electricity cost, cuz damn that seems low. my electricity in the LA area is .35 a kwh. Also you did not use your full tank each time or you would be stuck somewhere every time. these rounding errors add up when you try to show EV as the be all. for me gas is 5/2 more expensive than gas. and thats at the crazy gas prices. still a savings for sure but not 10% aka 10 times less expensive

[@vanheath5382]

@@kirbyrules55 Toyota says estimated 342 mile range on my old Corolla, so 350 was actually generous. I’m driving my Tesla more than I drove my old car, because We used to use my wife’s van on the weekends and for errands. So I was actually getting worse gas mileage during those times. In Phoenix AZ, my electricity cost is $0.05146 per KWh when I charge (Off-Peak). Comes out to about $1 every time I charge back up, there is also a Super Off-Peak charging rate of $0.03166 between 10am-3pm, but I rarely am charging at that time, however that’s what makes my charging cost fluctuate. If I just look at my old commute and take out the other driving, my work commute was 300 miles a week, so 1200 miles a month. I had to fill up each week about 10 gallons. At the time when I bought my Tesla, gas was around $3.15/Gal. So $3.15 x 10 x 4 = $126 a month. So if say look at my charge cost, $1/day x 20 days, then I was paying about 6x more for gas for my daily commute each month. It’s the gas savings using the Tesla for weekend and errand driving that gets me to about 10x difference. I hope that helps. Obviously the electricity cost is widely different depending on where you live. I average about 19 KWh per recharge (basically charging about 100 miles of range back to the car). So if my cost was like yours, $0.35 per KWh x 19 = $6.65 per fill up. That wouldn’t be a savings.

[@bug512]

But the cost of the car is four times the cost of the Toyota. And Insurance, and tires....

[@thebluelunarmonkey]

Costing you an extra $2500/year (higher cost of ownership than corolla) for the privilege of saving $1900/yr using cheaper electricity than gas. For your high yearly mileage, a Tesla makes more sense since you are overall paying $600/yr more PLUS not using any gasoline. :) For me, a Tesla doesn't make sense over my Prius. I travel much, much less than you, 625 miles/month. (7.5 years and at 56000 on odometer). I drive much less in the past 2.5 years due to working from home vs a 36 mile round trip commute to work for the first 5 years I owned the prius. These days I fill up 9 gallons once every 2 months since I work from home. So for the past year, I have spent about $216 in gas for the entire year. I did my prius, long term trip meter says I get 48mpg (Trip B meter over the last 9600 miles) over the 7.5 years I owned it, I have total of 56k miles so round to 7500 miles/year Tesla gets 0.24 kWh/mile. It costs me 11 cents per kWh for electricity (Atlanta) If I had a tesla, the 7500 miles would take 1800 KwH or $198/yr Precovid gas $2.40 at 155 gallons a year = $375/yr Covid gas is $4 at 155 gallons a year = $625/yr So for me, in 2022 the cost to home charge would be 32% of the cost of gas, saving $35.60 a month at $4/gal (saved only $14.80/month during precovid gas prices) Precovid, 53% the cost of gas Cost of 2014 Tesla 3 $71k - $7.5k tax credit Cost of my 2014 Prius Four - $26k Let's use 4yr loan, Tesla interest $5300, Prius interest $2300 Own car for 10 years, Tesla resale value is 31% ($19700 per caredge site) Prius is 30% ($7800) Cost per year: Tesla $4900, Prius $2050 (purchase + interest - resale) 6 years of gas precovid = 2250, 4 years covid gas 2500 = $475gas / year 10 years of Tesla electricity $1980 Cost of Ownership and Usage: Tesla $5100/yr Prius $2525/yr It would have cost me $2575/yr MORE to get the privilege of saving $277 a year using only electricity instead of gasoline. Not adding maintenance since $50 to change my oil once a year is neglible, and in 7.5 years I have needed no repairs. I'm assuming the Tesla is also maintenance free over the same time span, not needing any dealer servicing work and charges. Your calc is a little off since corolla is 31 city / 40 highway. You never put 13.2 gallons in the tank because no one fills up after running empty on the side of the road. My prius tank is 11.9gallons and in 7.5 years, I've never ever been able to put 10 gallons in it even when I thought I was running on fumes. Your Corolla for 1700 miles should cost $189/mo at $4/gal and 36mpg, not $263. So 1/6th not 1/10th but I think when you go from $189 to a low $30 we're just splitting hairs! :)

[@thebluelunarmonkey]

You can't ever put 13.2 gallons in the tank, though. My prius capacity is 11.9 but I have never in many years ever put more than 10 gallons in the tank, ever. Going by 36mpg, your fillup is closer to 9.7 gallons, not 13.2. But as I said in my other comment, your high miles per year does not make a tesla a bad investment at all :) If you were driving that Corolla 1700 miles a month, I'd suggest getting a job that didn't require you to travel as much (averaging 50mph, that's 17 days spent in your car, at average 25mph, thats 34 days spent in your car)

[@nelsonkingowen3266]

Every crash /collapse/inflation or a recession offers an equal market opportunity if you are well prepared and knowledgeable. I've seen people accumulate up to $800,000 during crises and even pull it off with ease in a bad economy. Without a doubt, the bubble or crash has made someone extremely wealthy.

[@michaelsmith-tw7eo]

I agree that there are strategies that could be put in place for solid gains regardless of economy or market condition, but such executions are usually carried out by investment experts or advisors with experience

[@utewaltraud8813]

Please can you leave the info of your lnvestment advsor here? I’m in dire need for one.

[@jeansricherwin5839]

The US economy is grappling with uncertainties, global fluctuations, and pandemic aftermath, causing instability. Rising inflation, sluggish growth, and trade disruptions need urgent attention from all sectors to restore stability and stimulate growth.

[@chariovaldagijsbert1933]

Things are strange right now. The US dollar is becoming less valuable because of inflation, but it's getting stronger compared to other currencies and things like gold and property. People are turning to the dollar because they think it's safer. I'm worried about my retirement savings of about $420,000 losing value because of high inflation. Where else can we keep our money?

[@carolusfrits1816]

Well I recommend you make a diversification plan because it's been harder to build a good stocksportfolio since COVID. My colleague suggested I hire a brokerage Adviser, and I've actually made over $150K with their help during last market upheavel. They used defensive strategies to protect my portfolio and make profits despite the ups and downs.

[@Bossinator1976]

Hey I would rather pay only a electric bill only then having to buy both

[@electrictroy2010]

SO SHE SAVES $25 PER TANK but spent a huge amount of $70,000 buying the EV (versus buying gasoline car for just 15-20,000 dollars). Benjamin Franklin called that “Penny wise but dollar foolish.” .

[@mcdmiked09]

Is nobody even going to mention the $578 power bill??? Holy cow, I've never paid more than $200 and I live in Florida

[@grahamquigley8818]

was 58 days, still a lot a power used per month

[@sackingz9540]

It is pg&e they charge a lot

[@JonHunter80]

thats about average if you have a large home in LA, for 2 months, I only pay about 30-40 per month in san diego, Ca

[@charlie1571]

$578 utility bill! Damn! Here in Louisiana our long summers are hell and A/C run continuously and my bill is around $200 and I have a total elec. home. I am a little doubtful of her story.

[@kevintucker8803]

IKR, it's crazy. My avg bill a month is $80 in Colorado

[@Pro-cheeseburger]

I haven't even noticed a difference in our power bill.. I leave my car plugged in all night long.. no issues.

[@SignaComputerSystems]

This is a good idea as preconditioning doesn’t cause any wear and tear on the battery it uses your household current. Just follow the 80:20 rule: try not to charge above 80% and drop below 20%. I’ve followed this for my car and has only dropped a few percent in capacity in 6 years.

[@ljprep6250]

Get the app and figure it out?

[@ljprep6250]

@joseph boyat Yup. Just pay off the $20-30k in solar installation and you're golden. ;)

[@miguellapa6868]

Solar Panels ?! In your personal home, not in the rental one. Putting the Sun working for you is better than having the money at the Bank.

[@mikerafone4736]

for Arizona or Nevada OK

[@kuladoma3]

here in California the utility company are planning to add a grid connection fee to solar owners costing 60 to 100 dollars based in KWH usage .

[@samiribnsaif]

Thanks for the informative video! I highly recommend getting the 30 amp plug installed, I got it done for around 300 and the charging rate went from 7 miles to 22 miles per hour.

[@nipponsuxs]

Most people dont drive more than 50miles a day so a standard wall socket is enough for many ev owners

[@WarlordXial]

I have one too, but for Shelby that’s a year of electric costs or two years even. And then she still pays for the power. So as long as she’s not in a big hurry… she’s literally saving 2 years worth of charge costs.

[@electrictroy2010]

She said she’s in an apartment, so can’t just install anything she wants. Not her property

[@billw8476]

just 22 miles per hour of charging rate? are you sure it is that low? ican spend 5 minutes at a gas pump and drive 400 miles and not worry about lightning strikes shutting my car off.

[@therealjetlag]

22 miles per hour? Do you mean 22 kwh? That's not the same thing AT ALL.

[@BonniebgreenCranmer]

If you add some solar to your home or business, it provides a valuable backup. Excellent video, thanks!

[@foofookachoo1136]

ONLY IF U DONT RENT!!!

[@Rebecca.Robbins]

We have tiered pricing here and we just set our car to automatically start charging during the off peek hours. That way we don’t even have to think about it. Set it and forget it!

[@mikerafone4736]

lucky you to have off peak hours

[@jalyassin]

$36 is the cost of one tank refill of gas! That’s amazing

[@digheanurag]

I easily pay $70 per tank in LA 😣

[@jalyassin]

@@digheanuragwow so expensive...I have a Toyota and live in Ohio so things tend to be cheaper

[@nikeraikage5318]

@@jalyassin same, ohio but i drive a nissan sentra. I spend about 36$ or less in gas per month.

[@geoffleach3749]

Come to the UK, $125 to fill my V70 Volvo…..

[@oooooooooOoOoOo571]

@@digheanurag LA gas price is nasty and even worse in OC. I drive 440i and it costs me around $60 and I fill my tank up 2-3 times per month.

[@SpencerOlson]

Brb gonna show this video to my dad to convince him to get a Tesla lmao

[@kevinsaj604]

lol Hope he is convinced 🤞

[@electrictroy2010]

SO SHE SAVES $25 PER TANK but spent a huge amount of $70,000 buying the EV (versus buying gasoline car for just 15-20,000 dollars). Benjamin Franklin called that “Penny wise but dollar foolish.” .

[@SpencerOlson]

@@electrictroy2010 You are exaggerating her numbers drastically. This model 3 was right under $40,000 and her second choice was a gas-Audi for almost the same price. Yes she is saving money.

[@SpencerOlson]

Update: my dad ordered a tesla lol

[@JeanPierreWhite]

If you came to Tennessee we pay about 10c kWh. No tiers, plug in whenever you want. Charging using 120v is slightly less efficient than 240v. Adding a 240v outlet would save a little, but probably not enough to pay for the install cost. As for utilities increasing the cost of electricity, this isn't that likely (electricity is a regulated industry). But to be devils advocate lets say electricity goes up 4x in price next year. Well then, you buy solar panels and use less grid electricity. The incentive to go solar would be strong because electricity is used for your whole home, not just your car.

[@nordic5490]

Your state needs a stronger price signal to incentivise peole to use less power. Here in Oz, my power is 40c / kwhr. No problem, my rooftop solar covers this and I receive a $3k pa cheque form the power company every year for the power I feed back to the grid. See how it works ? Your state needs to drastically increase the cost of lower to reduce consumption.

[@WarlordXial]

Excellent point! She could get even 2-4% more savings from higher voltage but it wouldn’t offset the cost of the charger until like 10 years had passed so… not great.

[@lonewolftech]

Wind and solar are shit ways of generating power lmao

[@mrb3135]

The coal burned to create electricity for an electric car still gives off CO2. Also, it takes 600 tons of coal energy to build a windmill that will produce less energy in its lifetime then it takes to build. The amount of non-ionizing radiation emitted by electric cars will slowly kill you. You must get a harmonizer to neutralize the radiation.

[@PhrontDoor]

Ah, WRONG on so many levels. NO, you don't need a 'harmonizer'. That is just patent nonsense. Windmills generate MORE in electricity/energy within the first two years than they took to build in resources AND energy. Windmills usually last from 20-25 years.

[@mrb3135]

@@PhrontDoor I know a little bit about the effects of non-ionizing radiation upon living organisms my friend. It is extremely destructive. Dr Jack Kruse is a highly respected neurosurgeon and a world-renowned biophysicist. I'll trust what he has to say if you don't mind. Whoever told you that windmills don't require tremendous amounts of coal produced electricity to build lied to you. Whoever told you that they don't cause radical climate change lied to you. Whoever told you they are not killing off the bird population lied to you. Whenever filthy rich corporate socialist oligarchs and their giant corporations, along with their corrupt corporate media, tell you things, you can pretty much figure out that it's the opposite of what they are telling you. I'm guessing that you do your research on Google, which has tens of thousands of censors, along with powerful AI algorithms, to make sure you never find out the truth about their giant money making schemes - like windmills. These corporations are all owned by the same families that funded Adolf Hitler. I should know - I probably spent over 50,000 hours tracking the Nazi families, their money and their crimes.

[@eddjordan2399]

also power station if burning coal or gas are allot more efficient than burning it at Source.

[@aceace605]

There's always tradeoffs and no such thing as free energy. Most people buying electric cars do it because they save money on gas. A few may do it based on a pie in the sky assumption that they are protecting the environment but the reality is a battery car probably has a similar carbon footprint as any other car after you factor it what it takes to build those batteries.

[@PhrontDoor]

@@aceace605 This has been repeatedly studied. Carbon footprint is far lower (from build, use and so on) for EVs.

[@arnellpatscott6948]

I'm and engineer and I think this is a really good and practical explanation. Her numbers made sense, and because all the charging "smarts" are in the car, the app will show an accurate reading. Of course now the price of gas is probably twice what she was paying in 2021, so more savings. Thanks,

[@whoofit]

No, there are charging losses of up to 20% between the plug and internal charger that are not accounted for in the app. Also, "about 700 miles" is questionable data. I mean, how hard is it to reset an odometer/trip meter? It is apparent you are not an EE.....

[@MissleT0E]

Let's not forget if a black out happened, you'd be fvcked. No thanks. Lol

[@east5871]

Except utilities rates have risen dramatically in the past yr.

[@johntruxal432]

Wait until the billions in gas tax gets put on electric...

[@east5871]

@@johntruxal432 yes the mileage tax too!

[@jamesy4626]

Here in Alberta, Canada, our electricity rates are very low compared to California. CDN$0.05 p/kWh. Over 4 months we spent CDN $60 on electricity for our SR MY with roughly 7,500kms.

[@BowserthePugsCastle]

Wow I wasn’t expecting to see a comment from where I am from! Good to know it’s even cheaper, thank you.

[@ricknash3055]

Living in Calgary the rate is about 28 cents per kwh. You likely looked only at the line which states the provider rate. You have to add in all the other charges. Simply add up kwh consumption and divide by total electricity cost.

[@gime5323]

Living in med hat we have roughly the same costs

[@chip_stack]

@@ricknash3055 people have no Idea how to break down the actual cost on their electricity bill .

[@practicalguy973]

Governments will adjust to this trend to EV dependency and will likely start charging more with a tier system for heavier electricity use in the future. Luckily those changes are usually gradual so hoping the prices stay lower over the next 10 years or so.

[@timebandit2951]

In California, with brown outs and black outs. You can't charge all the time. 578 bucks that's more then I pay in 3 months. Not to mention how much you pay to buy it. Do you have any idea what's involved in building 1 battery for a rechargeable in tesla battery. There is a lot more fossil fuel used to mine the minerals then you can ever be saved.

[@KarlandKristy]

There is actually another device called the “Sense” that plugs into the circuit breaker box in your house that helps you with that.

[@BrookeMcGee]

I would be so interested to see you re-do this video in a year! Definitely keep that in mind 😍

[@WarlordXial]

Why would the values change in a year? Electric companies keep power costs fairly predictable with small raises of a penny or two only every 5-10 years if that. The car will be similarly efficient, just overall hold less charge over time, losing around 2% of its overall range per year… but again that won’t affect charge costs/rates.

[@bwj1158]

@@WarlordXial I would think that a car is at peak performance when it leaves the factory. As time goes by all those moving parts wear. Tires are not maintained optimum. Is that 2% efficiency loss just in the battery or total car?

[@artm.8254]

Awesome vid! You broke it all the way down in a way that makes it easy to figure out and understand the cost of charging a ev. You covered all the angles, thanks. It all works so long as the electricity co. keep the rates down

[@tonybrown9875]

Yeah, and at night in the cold your car loses charge. Its like having a hole in your gas tank that drains away money as you sleep. Absolute crap technology. The elements in the batteries are far worse to the environment than good old gasoline, hell you can use ethanol from corn if you want to pull the greenie card.

[@yaboi7914]

​​​​@@tonybrown9875 Petrol cars can lose a bit of mileage in the cold too you know? All cars suffer in the cold, especially if it's extreme. With Teslas (and probably most other EVs), you can set a threshold to the battery and leave the car plugged in to warm it up without using the battery to make it comfortable before a drive to avoid the need of turning the heat on while driving, which in turn gives you more range. After all, a lot of the range lost is caused by the heating and not so much by the weather itself, relatively speaking. The bill may be a bit higher, but at least you're keeping the range. What it can affect significantly is the charging speed, but that's besides the point. And the elements themselves are not worse. What is worse is their extraction. Big difference.

[@MichaelIp]

$576 is your electric bill?? Holy cow. Are you mining Bitcoin?!?

[@lindakobie]

LOL. The bill is also for water and trash, and LDWP bills are for two months. With that said, they are still a rip off!! Their bill is the worst part of my life. LOL

[@MichaelIp]

@@lindakobie well I guess that makes it a bit more reasonable, but still crazy expensive!

[@Rebecca.Robbins]

Lol! I used to mine Bitcoin! I heated my house one winter with that power sucking / heat generating operation, and I’m in Canada! 😂

[@MichaelIp]

@@Rebecca.Robbins Was your electricity bill insane?

[@Rebecca.Robbins]

@@MichaelIp I was. This was 7-8 years ago and when Bitcoin prices tanked it didn’t make sense to continue. The more time that passes, the harder it is to mine, although prices have certainly rebounded.

[@unreal203]

I have a co-worker with a plug in hybrid. He plugged in to an outlet at the plant. It kept popping a breaker. Another co-worker has a friend with a tesla the he charges every night. The electric company sent him a letter politely informing him that his bill will be significantly higher because he is wasting energy.

[@kristinc5038]

I'm an energy analyst for a solar company that specializes in energy rates in California. It looks like you're only TOU-D-4-9PM with SCE with your Palm Springs house. I would take advantage of switching your rate to TOU-D-Prime; only people who have an electric car, solar, batteries, or electric heat pump can be on this rate. I see that most of your energy usage is during off-peak and you're paying $.29/kWh for that while PRIME has off-peak for $.17/kWh Also, would highly recommend getting solar and batteries for your palm springs house!! Really good investment for the long run. If you have any questions about this, please let me know. Always want to make sure people are getting the best rate for their energy because utility companies SUCK.

[@mesomemore97]

I live in North Texas... I've never had a $575.00 dollar electric bill... ever. California is out of whack.

[@michaelwebb8771]

OMG, I love in Tennessee, my total electric bill averages $ 50.00 a month! Thanks TVA.

[@duaneafields]

a little over one dollar day in electric, yea right, bull. unless you have a lot of blankets and candles this winter with only a fridge running.

[@augustusgrt9655]

Did you use nearly 2,400 kWh for the month? If not, then no sh*t it's not gonna be anywhere near her bill. There is not a single state that will charge $50 for 2,400 kWh usage. It's all relative, bud.

[@vikinglife6316]

My electric company has an app and it breaks down my exact usage everyday. I use on average 11kwph. It cost me less than $3.00 a day to run my electric in my home and that is with the AC running everyday If I dont use the AC it its half that cost. If I run the heat it will run more around $4-$5 a day depending how cold it is.. Your electric will fluctuate based on the temperature. The lower the temp the lower your rate per hour the higher the temp the higher your rate per hour. I get a graph on my app that shows this.

[@leonardcruz6390]

Hey Shelby. Thanks for the cost breakdown on the Tesla per month. I could use your analogy on whether or not to buy a TESLA or any other electric car. I appreciate the information.

[@electrictroy2010]

SO SHE SAVES $25 PER TANK but spent a huge amount of $70,000 buying the EV (versus buying gasoline car for just 15-20,000 dollars). Benjamin Franklin called that “Penny wise but dollar foolish.” .

[@truthtimetv4575]

What makes you think your on a first name basis psycho ?

[@KCinspireME]

We're homesteading and taking steps to be fully self sustaining in the country. My small KZbin channel shows our progress with chickens, duck eggs, gardening, and adding cows, solar power and cistern water collection soon. Also digging our own well. But most importantly, we consume less, and what we do consume is almost all used and we pride ourselves in refurbishing items to give them new life instead of going into a landfill.

[@_Diggler]

Most tanks are 12 gallons. Most cars average 25 mpg = 300 miles. The charge for the Tesla to go 240 miles is $12 vs. Gas is $3.89 a gallon in my area. So 300 miles costs $46.68 in fuel. Tesla wins the cost per mile here. But,… factor in the increased cost of insurance, car payment for a $65,000 vehicle. I’d say the $30,000 car probably wins. Comment below and let’s have a conversation…

[@kyleLyfe2]

The case I always mention is my $5000 Prius. I get 50mpg, so I would be saving on fuel costs with electric. However, I would pay more in insurance, maintenance, and registration. Eventually if there's $5000 used Tesla Model 3s I could see myself doing the switch, but its too early to tell when that will happen

[@KellyTheRN]

Teslas start at just shy of $40k and with tax incentives that brings the cost closer to $30k than you’d think. You do have increased insurance premiums, true, but also have no maintenance costs (oil changes, etc). Only tires and wiper fluid. Just thoughts to consider.

[@googiegress]

Around here the electricity cost is lower, it would be $6 per 300 miles vs. roughly the same gas cost you quoted. So the fuel difference would be about $2,000 per year for me refueling about once a week. People who drive a lot more would see more benefit, and those who drive less would see less of course. I think a $65k Tesla is the wrong comparison, it should be the $40k for a Model 3. You could argue that people would really want the higher-performance ones, but you're comparing it with a $30k MSRP new car, so I don't think it's appropriate to compare a high end Tesla to a low-end Honda for example. That said, while Teslas seem to hold their value in the used market (so you don't get much of a deal buying used and you probably won't bother), other cars don't, and right now you can easily find a really good 2018 to 2019 certified pre-owned ICE sedan for under $20k. And if you aren't under pressure you can scour around and get a decent used car and then fix it up for maybe $10k total. But also of course spending a lot of your own time doing it, and your time is worth something, unless you have a ton of time and little money (like if you're retired, on disability, college student, etc). Anyway, if you're smart you won't buy a new car, and if we're comparing the cheapest Model 3 available to a typical used sedan that runs really well and won't likely have problems for another 8 years, it's a realistic price comparison of $40k Tesla to $20k gas car. --- The 20k used ICE is easier to achieve financing for, the monthly payment is doable, and you're more likely to be able to handle a shorter term to reduce interest paid. If your car can go 8-10 years before it needs a repair that's too expensive to make it worth doing, then around that time you hit the point where maybe it would have been a better choice to buy a Tesla. At that point, your Tesla probably still holds significant value, although remember it's 10 years old and is probably starting to wear down and have its own problems. But your ICE car is now 15+ years old and has a problem you're trying to get out from under by selling it. *Let's ignore inflation and continue talking 2021 dollars for clarity's sake*, that in 2031 a 2021 Model 3 will probably be worth about $20k at most, and a 2015 Camry with a big problem will be worth (charitably) $5k. Let's say you either spend 5k to fix the Camry (and honestly probably another 5k in repairs that come up in years 11-20), or sell it and buy another used car for 10k cash plus the trade-in, and you're sitting on a car that might last you 10 years if you cross your fingers. The 2021 Tesla is probably in about the same shape. Now you run both cars for another 10 years. The Tesla saves you $20k in cheaper fuel. And the repairs or trade-in on the gas hooptie cost you an additional 10k. At the end of 2041 let's just call the value of both cars even. So while you lose out with the Tesla between 2021 and 2031, you're better off between 2031 and 2041. --- However, we need to also try to predict the future on fossil fuels. If the actual cost of gas goes up significantly, or if governments raise gas taxes, it can make the Tesla much more attractive. If the aging power grid can't meet the demands of all these electric cars and electric costs go up, the Tesla is less attractive. Both will probably happen. The prediction is whether gas gets more expensive faster, or whether electricity does. The overall result of the fuel balance shifting should move the year-of-ownership breakeven point. Also if you can get a tax credit or deduction for electric vehicle or solar panels on your house, that can dramatically shift the balance in favor of the Tesla, making it a better option. Because we don't know how those might change the comparison, it's hard to say, but I think we'd all find a reasonable estimate at pushing the comparison in favor of electrics maybe at Year 7-8 of ownership instead of Year 10. It's extremely unlikely we'll see incentives come up for gas cars! So this is a prediction that could only remain neutral or help electrics.

[@_Diggler]

Glad I could bring out the economists - I won’t buy an electric. Especially a Tesla. I like Elon, I just don’t like his cars.

[@KellyTheRN]

It sounds like you actually didn’t want a conversation after all.

[@ex750racer]

I have four 180w solar panels that can charge my car ( Prius Prime) half way up a day. It gives me 15 miles a day to drive so I live four miles form work. So it is all good.

[@ErikS308]

Most gas tanks get filled at the 350-400 mile mark. To make it 600 miles you will need HUGE tanks. Only dual tank pickups and semis get 600 mile plus ranges. $13 to go 240 miles is just under half the cost of gas in my area. In her AO where fuel is $5 a gallon she is really saving on he travels. Factor in the cost of the car which is about 10-15k over an ICE with the same features (well close but nothing has the stuff a 3 has other than other Teslas) She is paying just a bit more than she would for total cost of ownership of an ICE vehicle. If the EV and ICE cost the same the EV cost of ownership would be a huge plus.

[@iamreallytwiggytv8931]

If I get a $500 electricity bill imma throw the whole house away 😂

[@Nerdhaunt]

IKR 🤣😆

[@MrsMuffin11]

SAME

[@JeanPierreWhite]

Err no. You'd be better off installing solar.

[@monicaant.1422]

Same my family pay around 80$

[@iamreallytwiggytv8931]

@@JeanPierreWhite Lol yeah, I’m just joking

[@WishAtElevenEleven]

The $500 total electric bill was a shock to me. But I’ve always lived in smaller apartments. Just didn’t realize it costs this much to power a medium size house.

[@honesty_-no9he]

If that was a month then it is a lot by international standards. But. PALM SPRINGS !! Hello, own the home, put up solar and you are laughing !

[@nordic5490]

@@honesty_-no9he yup, as an Ozzie I am rolling my eyes. High power bills are a direct result of home occupants being lazy and not measuring the consumption of their appliances. Plug in power meters are only $20. Here in Oz, my power is 40c / kwhr. No problem, my rooftop solar covers this and I receive a $3k pa cheque form the power company every year for the power I feed back to the grid.

[@electrictroy2010]

Power usage by lightbulbs & computers is so small (30-60 watts) as to be trivial. The main cost is house heating or air conditioning at 5000 watts & has the biggest impact if you want to save money. (Change the temperature so the central heat/AC runs less.)

[@A42yearoldARAB]

It does not, ours is 150 MAX when running central air in the summer and hovers around 80 in the winter for a house with 3 people running stuff all the time. This is what happens when you vote for nonsense.

[@etherealrose2139]

@@electrictroy2010 not really. Most desktop computers are running minimum half kilowatt PSU. Probably more. In 24 hours of leaving on that's 12kWh right there. I'm not going to assume they're maxing those out crypto mining nor do they all have desktops. But you'll still see multiple kilowatts if all the roommates and her leave computers and light bulbs on all the time. And not just that, they output heat which she probably rejects by running the AC longer. 1.2mWh for the month is still a tremendous amount so they must leave everything on all the time.

[@wolfcola3401]

I wish my truck got 500 miles per tank of gas. More like 260 miles per tank. So 36 dollars a charge is cheap, compared to 40 dollars just to fill my tank up from just over half a tank full. I never let it get lower. Because it hurts when it costs close to 100 dollars to fill up from empty. Got to love a 2020 pickup getting 16 mpg lol

[@WireWeHere]

$5.875 per gallon today in California x 13 gallon tank = $76.38 for about 380 to 400 miles or about 19¢ per mile for gasoline. Just Googled gas price, the average tank size, and mileage numbers. A kilowatt hour is the equivalent to a 1000 watt heater running for an hour. E=IR... Volts = Amps x Resistance. Watts is Volts x Amps so for 1000 Watts at 120 Volts it takes 8.33 Amps and 1000 Watts on continuously for an hour equals 1 Kilowatt Hour. For household single phase power using a plumbing analogy: Volts are the Pressure. Amps are the Flow. Watts are the Volume. Watt Hours are the Volume over Period of Time. Volts times Amps equals the Watts. Watts are the Quantity of Energy. Watts divided by 1000 times the Hours equals Kilowatt Hours. A 10ft x 10ft x 8ft high room is going to get pretty warm for only 11 to 32 cents worth of electrical stuff. An electric oven set at 350°F for an hour uses about 2 kilowatt hours of electricity or 22 cents worth at a good cheap rate. Hope that somehow helps someone somewhere someway someday.

[@Cr7_editxz777]

Amazing explanation! I really needed this.

[@lennyf1957]

6:40 Most tanks of gas will not get you even close to 500 or 600 miles. I have a 2013 Lexus and I average 19 MPG local driving and about 22-24 MPG highway. That averages to about 335 miles per tank.

[@toTheWatcher]

I too was like, um actually it's no where near 500. Unless you have added a 2nd long haul tank on a truck or the oddity of the Chevy HHR that they stuck a 16 gallon tank on decently economical a 4cyl. Everything else is about 350miles-ish

[@p0werp0pster]

I agree. I just turned in an SUV that would *maybe* get 300 miles on highway driving. Most any car I've had over the past 15 years had ~250 mile range in everyday use.

[@xxxblanco]

California PG&E kWh costs are now 51 cents per kWh during peak hours, lowest is 43 cents non-peak hours, this is now equivalent to having a gas vehicle that gets 30 mpg.... ya'll already fked it up before it even started.

[@VK4VO]

Looking fwd to seeing your bill to replace the batteries in another 5 or so years.

[@trevormorgan9084]

This video was probably one of the most well thought-out and researched videos I've seen in quite a while. Seriously, there's so much junk on KZbin now-a-days that finding an informative video like this where someone actually does their "homework" on the topic deserves an applause! Great job!👏

[@lpdirv]

Have you considered solar. Payback should be quite reasonable.

[@natosuperman1]

Fill gas tank anywhere in 3 minutes and drive across country on any roads. EV must match charge station to roads takes 20-30 minutes and you cant use the gas station restroom or buy snacks because its just a charge station in a parking lot

[@toddbob55]

My house is 2000 square feet and my upcoming electric bill is $98.00 California is screwing you over

[@Doublezzranch]

My concern for the end user would be on reliability of power delivery. Most if not all power lines are out of service life declared by the electric companies. It'll be astronomically expensive to update all power lines, converters etc etc and will reflect your end user electric bill directly.

[@blakem9109]

Home ev chargers draw 50 amps or less. That's equivalent to central air conditioners or electric water heaters, stoves, or dryers. Even if you are running all of those at once you probably will not have an issue unless everyone in the neighborhood is also doing it. Factor in things cycling on and off and the percentage of people that will never go electric and the power grid will be fine.

[@richardwilliams1986]

$36 at $5 per gallon is 7.2 gallons, for 700 miles it's 97.2 mpg equivalent. If prices reach $7 per gallon that's 136 mpg, but if prices drop to $3.50 mpg or electric fuel surcharge increase, it could drop to 68 mpg.

[@RoadWarrior77]

Here's one think to watch out for. The roads are built with the taxes from the fuel being purchased. If everyone were driving electric cars, then there would be little to no money for the roads. Do you think the government would just allow that to happen? EV owners are getting away with it now, because the overwhelming majority of people are still using gas and diesel. But if we all went to electric cars, they would start taxing things like your electricity for your house, get ready for the tires for your car to cost $1000 to $2000 a piece for the cheap ones, but if you want Goodyear or Michelin tires, $4000 per tire.

[@Jblaze024]

They'll see. Utility companies are chomping at the bit to be like big oil.

[@DoesYourCat]

I'd recommend getting that meter. From what you showed, a savings of $0.025 (2 1/2 cents, not .025 cents) per Kwh is more than 10% of what you pay in any teir. You'd save over $57/month. Plus, it mentions a $250 credit, though details were cutoff.

[@notpoliticallycorrect4774]

How is she going to save $57 per month when she is only spending $40? The meter would save $4 per month, but there is likely a charge for the extra meter, so not worth it for the little bit that she drives.

[@robertpage2023]

I would assume that charging after midnight would be cheaper as the use of power is way down. The utility company will drop the KW hour price at this time. Yeah, that means that you have to go outside in your pajamas and slippers to plug in your car but you could put it on a timer device. They plug in and are reliable.

[@ez3619]

Your and graham are the reason I got my Tesla 🙏

[@konradkmiller]

Most of the charging would happen at night when the load on the grid is minimal. You may still be right, but the increase would likely be a profit grab.

[@rickrinke1443]

And when everyone starts driving and charging at night? Load 24/7.

[@kriszellers9718]

Demand will be high 24 hours a day

[@joejohnson3441]

As more people decide to switch to EVs, utility companies will eventually be forced to 'ration' its use or invest into very 'expensive' upgrades to the grid and the higher costs will be passed on to the consumers of the energy. The day will come when the savings are gone and your electric bill will overwhelm your family's budget. You can bet on it !

[@itssimo0374]

What you don't hear about is you have to replace the batteries every 100k at between $20k-$35k thats a lot if you add it to anything else you need to replace

[@ScubaDude_Sg]

That is not the true cost, the car would have been at least 50%-70% more than a normal gas powered car depending on the model of Tesla u get. Take the delta of the cost of the Tesla vs the cost of a gas powered vehicle by and divide that across 10yrs, add that value to the normal rate for electricity u pay to Charge yr car and you wld get a better picture of the cost to charge. Also is we r talking about environmental impact to create electricity, it’s mostly done by burning fossil fuels, renewable energy can only supply less that 30% of the total cost of producing electricity. So it’s not that simple to just compare costs of charging vs cost of gas .

[@highkicker11]

the moment the majority of people start driving electric you will see the fuel prices go down but the price per kwh go up big time.

[@valhallaoverland4692]

Oh yes. You are 100% correct. Then, I'll go back driving my ICE SUVs/Trucks.

[@st8kout961]

The number one problem with electric cars is, you better carefully plan out any road trips or even day trips. If you NEVER go on vacation in your car, then you're fine, but a lot of people do. And if you commute a long distance to your job, then you don't want an electric car. Gasoline cars are so efficient that you need to stop to take a leak way more often than when your car needs more gas. I took a 2 week tour of the Midwest in my BMW could drive all day on open roads and would only occasionally top off the tank when I stopped for food/restrooms, plus if it was storming/snowing and I had at least half a tank, I could drive to the next city where the weather was probably better.

[@tbfdude]

I'm surprised you didn't let the vid go over 10 minutes, lol. (She said before that you can put more ads on, if your video is over 10 minutes long)

[@Jeroen74]

That has changed to 8 minutes about half a year ago IIRC ;)

[@Je.rone_]

Time to get a solar panel go off the grid 😄

[@waywardgeologist2520]

You forgot to mention the batteries for storage which are a huge upfront cost.

[@newstart49]

You're paying a total of $.24 a KWH. $3.60 an hour per a 40 hr working week w/charging the batteries. That's more than double my big house, 3 computers, appliances running every day, a huge shop and air conditioning in all buildings. You may double check the usage- I think it is NOT 1/2 of using gas. In eight to ten years you will have a $10k- 22k bill for new batteries. Then the batteries will be buried in our landfills and pollute our planet or you will need to buy another elect car! I can keep my gas cars and trucks to 15-20 years.

[@spartanoverlanding300]

Lol, that 120v single phase charge will take forever and limited on milage on short period change. Minimum recommend power to charge I would suggest 220v 50amp. Program your car to charge in off-peak hours in during the night to save also.

[@redbaron6805]

Charging at 120V would mean around 5 to 6 miles per hour. Overnight, that would typically be around 60+ miles of range. She is driving around 23 miles a day average, so it would work fine for her, as it does...

[@larrymaulsby1711]

you know what would really be interesting to know is how much coal, natural gas and other products used to produce the electricity to charge your Tesla, that part that nobody wants to talk about, you know!!! please do a vlog on that, and also do you charge your Tesla in your garage? if so, do you have the proper means to distinguish an electrical fire?

[@MrJimslaton]

Solar panels across the entire roof of our home allows us to charge our home and Tesla's for free. We also have generac generators that run off cheap nature gas line that also allows us to charge our Tesla for almost nothing. Like it or not, everything is going electric. It will get to the point where fuel for a car will be so expensive that only the rich will be able to own a ICE vehicle.

[@suuie]

What about winter Tesla pulls more electricity during that time

[@sophiapalmer7779]

As someone in the clean energy industry, I love this video so much! Thank you so much for making such an informative video.

[@toddr3644]

Lithium is very clean to mine. So is cadmium. Like spraying the earth with Mr. Clean!

[@MM-jq4pb]

Clean Green Electric Cars? "Zero-emission fantasies ignore the essential role of fossil fuels in manufacturing ALL renewables and Electric Vehicles. From mining and processing the myriad metals and minerals for battery modules, wiring, drive trains and bodies, to actually making the components and finished vehicles, every step requires oil, natural gas, or coal. Usually elsewhere on Planet Earth, most often with Chinese companies in leading roles. From commonplace iron, copper, aluminium, and petroleum-based plastics - to exotics like lithium, cobalt, and multiple rare earth elements - these materials are dug up and turned into “virtuous” EVs, wind turbines, and solar panels with little or no attention to child labour, fair wages, workplace safety, air, and water pollution, toxic and radioactive wastes, endangered species or mined land reclamation."

[@wayneparkinson4558]

My advise if anyone wants to listen is don't allow your batteries to rundown to less than 5% and don't fully charge only go up to 95% this prevents overheating and it maximizes your battery efficiency. Drive safe and think of pedestrians in built up areas

[@vaxdeezm.d.1847]

@shelbychurch you said ".025 cents", it said .025 dollars which is equal to 2.5 cents. What you said is equal to $0.00025 in dollars. That is nothing but 2.5 cents per kilowatt hour is actually alot of money at the end of the year.

[@rcpmac]

Hey Shelby, That meter discount is not .025 cents per kWh like you stated. It is written as $0.025 which is .025 dollars or 2.5 cents per kWh however your estimate of savings was correct.

[@Laljack564]

Most people are not going to be happy with ev’s. Utility companies can not meet electricity production without ev’s. So you will get high bills for charging. Plus hard time charging them in high temperatures. You will also get less mileage on hot days.

[@mamus4]

Yes the App gives you usage but does not tell you real cost of charging, you have charging losses up to 20% and parasitic losses of 1% a day just having your car sit daily, so this is not factored in, you would need a separate meter.

[@NB-no7lh]

Point of fact, Shelby: You live in L.A. in a state with some of the country’s most expensive electric rates AND fuel prices. I live in a state where the cost of fuel is moderately lower than CA and we have here some of the least expensive electric rates in the country, so I am anticipating my “fuel” cost to run my EV (when I finally get one) to be about 25% (75% reduction) of my current fuel cost for my ICE vehicle(s), even though you are reporting approx. 50% reduction.

[@toddmarshall7573]

0:31 If you're just plugging it into a wall outlet, a Kill-A-Watt meter will tell you directly what you're using through "that" plug. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5fOioemlMx4irc

[@WarlordXial]

Hardware engineer here. These things catch on fire when you run a lot of wattage through them. They aren’t built well enough to be used to high wattage stuff like cars or big fancy computers/servers. Get an industrial unit if you’re curious but don’t use a kilawatt for this. It could be a life saving tip :/

[@loafandjug321]

She actually said the word *actually* 16 times in less than 10 minutes.

[@nspinicelli]

Electricity in salt lake city is only like 8.69 per kWh so I’m stoked! It’ll be like $5 for a full charge

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

Wait until you need to replace the battery, or it catches fire. I wouldn't be charging these death traps in my garage. Just don't ask about how the materials that go into the batteries are mined, processed etc. These things aren't so "Green" and will be disposable once the battery dies, nobody is going to spend the money on a new battery for an old fire hazard

[@dude247316]

Did u say 1.21 gigawatts!!!! Great scott!!! How am I gonna get back to the future now! LOL

[@sprintwithcarlos]

You named your car "Tessa", that's cute :-D

[@xb12987]

2,400kwh monthly usage is INSANE. Peak usage month for my (humid/hot/Kansas) 2,500sqft house (July/August) is usually no higher than 1,000-1,100kwh.

[@delaineyjohnson8238]

OMFG! I was thinking about buying an EV but hell no!! I'm in CA on a TOU tier system, too. I haven't had an electricity bill over $250 with a 2200sq ft home during the summer months. That's where my budget limit is. Over $500 for a monthly bill! Not worth it...not to mention insurance and car payments...that's like having another mortgage to pay...or rent for another home. Good lord!

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[@grantguy8933]

For my fixed e rate it’s 2 cents per mile. 😆

[@wyomingcreations8824]

A high amperage moter turned on for 1 minute a day can make your electric bill go up as if it were running 24 hours a day. They measure use in a unfair way

[@tinakrautkremer4731]

Ok.. Now what's the cost to replace the batteries ?? What's the cost for repairs ?? I know they're not a monthly thing but neither is it for a gas vehicle.. They don't stand the cold either..

[@GiantMeteor2024]

How much coal did it take to make that electricity?

[@MrJusDucky]

Just wait until they start with the latest generation of chargers, the government will not be denied their Revenue and the new chargers will pull out the equivalent road use taxes so the cost of EV's will increase even more. At 700 miles and 40 mph and a 13 gallon tank you will have to fill up one time at the 10 gallon point, but the fact is the Gasoline has up to $0.30 per gallon of tax on it depending on where you live, so buckle up buttercup your charging rates are going to change as soon as the PNR is achieved and there is no going back. Some fast chargers cost over $0.32 per minute to charge a car and at 1 hour that can be $19 to fill your etank.

[@RetireesHelpingRetirees]

I'll make it easy.. Your car should tell you how many KW Hours it's using. well whatever it uses you can just multiply about 10 cents or so a KW hour.. look at your bill it tells you what you pay per KW hour it;s that simple.

[@tbm4]

The tier 2 you mention in LA is already over the one in your video and we are expecting a larger jump in July. I have the same utility.

[@patrickflohe7427]

It’s 120 volts, not 110.....also, it’s A LOT slower than 240, not just a little.

[@SeaMonkey137]

You realize that cost is just estimated based on kwh usage x rate and not actual realized cost, right?

[@TurboDV8]

Wow, you're getting a bargain down there in Los Angeles, both with your Tier 1 allowance and your base rate. Here in the San Francisco Bay area, my tier one allowance is only 235 kilowatt hours, and that's at 31.6 cents per kilowatt hour! Maybe we're subsidizing your Los Angeleans!

[@somedudeandacomp]

Getting a meter is NOT the only way to tell... If you are good at math and have the Tessie app you can figure it out easily.

[@kenlang5268]

All batteries wear out over time. How about a video on the cost to replace a battery pack? $10K? $15k? What is the fate of the dead battery? What is the value of the EV in ten years? How much of a burden are EV'S on our electric grid? Other requests would be a presentation on Third World countries who produce the alloys needed to build a battery.

[@Mr.BaleBlu]

You should get an Aptera I guarantee you would love it! Solar charging is where it's at! And ultra efficiency!

[@ANIL-br9dk]

potential savings is a scam...in order to save something dont you think you are over paying in front for the vehicle itself.

[@sjgavenger37]

Now calculate how much the Tesla cost to purchase the car to an equivalent gas vehicle. So a Tesla model 3 is in the same class as like a Mazda 3 or Honda civic. The Tesla can easily be twice the price at $40,000-$50,000 while the civic or Mazda would be $20,000-$30,000 which is HALF THE PRICE. So where is the actual savings?

[@jamesdumas6602]

But, How much will it cost to replace the battery in your Tesla in a couple of years when the battery no longer holds a charge?

[@LukeVMH-Games]

so hard to watch this as someone who actually knows how cars work but we appreciate the end purpose

[@mr.starly2423]

?

[@jeffb8562]

One year later, are you still happy with your purchase? Now that gas prices are going down and cost of electricity is going up. But don’t worry you’re president will surely steal more taxpayer money to fund this ridiculousness. It’s almost like going back to the early 1900s. Let’s say in theory that we have electric vehicles that are proven to be durable and efficient. then all of a sudden somebody says we have this awesome new invention called the internal combustion engine that is going to be awesome and save you a bunch of money. And it’s also going to save the world from drowning. Do you think most people would want to change when they already have something that works? Not the best comparison but.

[@shadowtiger2363]

There is no after market for most electric vehicles And my humvee has some serious armour. These electric vehicles are junk fast but useless in a get out of dodge situation they cant take much damage. There electric vehicles are mostly plastic as for the tesla truck garbage. My humvee can carry massive amounts of spare fuel or i can tow extra fuel with the trailer. I would never buy an electric. But if you live in a city i guess those people love all that electric stuff.