The Real Don Draper From 'Mad Men'?

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@dorkmax7073
@dorkmax7073 7 жыл бұрын
Salvatore Romano was Art Director. Don Draper was his boss, Creative Director.
@townesprescot5441
@townesprescot5441 5 жыл бұрын
Coda Mission exactly. And this man is not humble. Don was arrogant but humble too. Would never talk about himself this way. He’s also a fictional character lol
@caspmct9307
@caspmct9307 5 жыл бұрын
@Ben Rosen Oh, really? And you seem like a fucking idiot.
@Historian212
@Historian212 5 жыл бұрын
Coda Mission Thank you. I see someone else has worked in advertising...
@arthurdetoledolemerodrigue2931
@arthurdetoledolemerodrigue2931 5 жыл бұрын
@@townesprescot5441 Yea... Don was always reluctant to talk about himself.
@anwayapimpale2644
@anwayapimpale2644 24 күн бұрын
@@townesprescot5441 Don wasn't humble. He was arrogant and had imposter syndrome which is why he didn't speak about himself. He was cheating his wife, his employer and the world
@jacobhughes3863
@jacobhughes3863 9 жыл бұрын
Don would never talk about himself this much
@BitmapJack
@BitmapJack 5 жыл бұрын
fuck this show
@jpgrumbach8562
@jpgrumbach8562 5 жыл бұрын
When you live under an assumed identity maybe you should not.
@townesprescot5441
@townesprescot5441 5 жыл бұрын
Came here to say just this
@UnchainedMelodie92
@UnchainedMelodie92 5 жыл бұрын
@@BitmapJack Lol I'll never understand why people like you whom claim to hate something, como onto a video _specifically_ about the thing they hate, just to say how much they hate it. It's almost as if you all don't have a life lol. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
@imoutsideoutintheforest8337
@imoutsideoutintheforest8337 5 жыл бұрын
Well who knows how Don will turn out to be in his 70s.
@martinmireles6762
@martinmireles6762 9 жыл бұрын
"Don Draper was a womanizer...I'm the opposite in every respect." So he's the real life Sal, then.
@anywaythewindblows8912
@anywaythewindblows8912 4 жыл бұрын
Martin Mireles That and Sal was also gay
@maxymoo2764
@maxymoo2764 4 жыл бұрын
@@anywaythewindblows8912 pretty sure that's the point he was getting at haha
@anywaythewindblows8912
@anywaythewindblows8912 4 жыл бұрын
Max Jones haha yea
@ibzmav
@ibzmav 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@MauroPennafort
@MauroPennafort 4 жыл бұрын
@@anywaythewindblows8912 So true.
@kylecarraher4145
@kylecarraher4145 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like no one at vice even watched mad men.
@torbenwnielsen11
@torbenwnielsen11 10 жыл бұрын
Don Draper is thought to be more closely related to Draper Daniels, a creative at Leo Burnett in the 1950's (and agency style much similar to SCDP in the show. Daniels was credited with the creation of the Marlboro Man, character that ties much closer to Don Draper. Lois is a genius, but a much different style.
@gardensofthegods
@gardensofthegods 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that info that would make more sense that they even paid how much do the guy by using his first name .
@hanagloriaedelblum5693
@hanagloriaedelblum5693 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information! This makes much more sense.
@MrDuds1984
@MrDuds1984 Жыл бұрын
This is correct WTTW Channel 11 in Chicago where Leo Burnette was based confirmed it, it was Draper Daniels.
@jpmnky
@jpmnky 2 жыл бұрын
There’s no way he or anybody else is/was the real Don Draper. Nobody could be Don Draper. Not even Don Draper.
@paulocorrea521
@paulocorrea521 Жыл бұрын
Bingo
@SimpleManGuitars1973
@SimpleManGuitars1973 Жыл бұрын
Actually Don Draper WAS Don Draper. Really nobody could be Dick Whittman. LOL!
@thejuice_games
@thejuice_games 11 ай бұрын
Leo Burnett maybe
@JRLeeman
@JRLeeman 9 жыл бұрын
1:09 - Does he even watch the show? Don Draper is extremely good at what he does - his ability to understand strangers is crucial to his character.
@Geekygirrls2014on
@Geekygirrls2014on 8 жыл бұрын
+ThoseTolerableNoobs I've been saying for a year that Mad Men is NOT a realistic depiction of Madison Ave of the 60s. I was a graphic designer than programmer for PKL & JWalterThompson etc. Don Draper is good at what he is supposed to be doing, but he's NO creative talent. George Lois was not only GREAT at Art Direction (Don is just a sales guy) he was far better looking too. ALL the women working with him had the HOTS for him, trust me. ALL.But he wasn't a womanizer. Maybe THAT was some of his appeal, but I can still see him in my mind's eye, and I have NEVER again met a guy THAT good looking, and BRILLIANT too. The ppl putting him down in this video? THEY WERE JEALOUS. Why should George have ever said "WE" when GEORGE did it ON HIS OWN so *I* was quite appropriate, it wasn't a team effort, after all. Sure I did layouts & typesetting, than ad programming, but I ALWAYS followed GEORGE's (and other Art Directors') very specific specifications. The ART DIRECTORS are 'the' creators. Sure the copywriters have 'some' input, but not as much as depicted on Mad Men. I have fond memories of those days, regardless of the MCP nature of the men. Hell, they had to work outside the home and as we all know, now, (all women I mean), working in the corporate world is nothing but eventually self destructive.
@JRLeeman
@JRLeeman 8 жыл бұрын
TheGeekiestWoman Don Draper is a copywriter, not an artist, and whilst you might personally not consider the work he comes up with in the show to be any good - the show goes out of its way to portray Don as being considered to have extremely high amounts of talent. If he were bad at his job, the show wouldn't work.
@BennySalto
@BennySalto 8 жыл бұрын
You were a programmer? 'were'? You are supposed to have experience on Madison Avenue in the 60's because you were a programmer in the 60's? Any examples of online campaigns you did in 1963?
@tiluriso
@tiluriso 8 жыл бұрын
Good point.
@ckmissghana
@ckmissghana 6 жыл бұрын
Don is fictional, this guy isn't
@RichDunn51
@RichDunn51 10 жыл бұрын
He wasn't an art director (Don Draper)... he was a copywriter or copy based Creative Director... As a copywriter... I feel ashamed that VICE got this wrong :-(
@creamininurpanties
@creamininurpanties 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I caught that too.....smh
@whale9418
@whale9418 9 жыл бұрын
Richard Dunn The only time Don was shown being an art director was when he pitched his ideas to Rodger. Which, btw he was also the copywriter. He is really only shown as the creative director, which is neither. Their job is to create and perfect ideas. If anything he deals more in copy than art since he literally never does anything with art and writes or comes up with lines pretty often. Plus, he mentors Peggy, a copywriter.
@tpp5151
@tpp5151 9 жыл бұрын
This is true
@joshcoleman1668
@joshcoleman1668 7 жыл бұрын
Lol I was going to post this, like 10 seconds in they get something wrong.
@mikem4314
@mikem4314 7 жыл бұрын
Richard Dunn its vice. bunch of burnt out hippies. what do you expect?
@colesteeleA
@colesteeleA 3 жыл бұрын
Don was a smooth & eloquent character. This guy sounds like he was the creator behind, “Pawn Stars.”
9 жыл бұрын
So is the Creative Director in pink the real-life Peggy Olson?
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 9 жыл бұрын
Hạnh-Minh Nguyễn More like the real-life Joan Holloway/Harris :-).
@AbbyMore
@AbbyMore 8 жыл бұрын
Nah, she looked too modest to be Joan lol
8 жыл бұрын
Abby More Yeah. And also last time we met, Joan was working in her own production house.
@truthseeker7564
@truthseeker7564 5 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. She actually had children and juggled parenthood and her career. I think her life was tougher than Peggy Olson's. Read her book, Mad Women, it is quite interesting.
@GlanceofGlory
@GlanceofGlory 9 жыл бұрын
He's nothing like Don. Don wouldn't sit for this interview with all this bravado, Don would come in an earnestly explain his concepts with a swig of arrogance and an undertone of self-loathing and cynicism. And that's presuming that Don Draper would agree to the interview or even be alive to be interviewed to begin with!
@TheBhumiChannel
@TheBhumiChannel 9 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought. Don Draper didn't like to talk about himself. Sure, he had a monstrous ego, but he was a ton more enigmatic than this guy. I doubt Don Draper was written with this man, Lois in mind and any similarities, and I am sure there may be a few, are coincidence. But I didn't see much in common other than some very innovative ads.
@sclogse1
@sclogse1 9 жыл бұрын
Bhumi Kelly This didn't probe into Lois's behavior outside the office. But when you are not just in the fast lane, but created it, you can only imagine.
@reginaldjoyboy9468
@reginaldjoyboy9468 9 жыл бұрын
GlanceofGlory Don is probably just a composite of men but Weiner must have had a good researcher because the character of Don is identical in many ways to my best friend at prep school's father. They mother and father even looked like the actors who portray them and they lived at the same location and much of the other things are the same so it's too much to be coincidental. I can even recall the man showing up some ads and asking what we thought of them. No much since as teens we were interested in other things and didn't pay much attention to what our parents did lol
@GlanceofGlory
@GlanceofGlory 9 жыл бұрын
Reginald Joyboy Most likely it's a composite. A huge part of the show is about the unlikely narrator. Fiction about the 60's would either not portray Don's generation or make them out to be sort of the enemy or adversary to the hippie movement. The characters have period-accurate biases, prejudices, and attitudes, they're not the easy selection but they are still just as interesting (perhaps more) than obvious choices. This guy would be an easy choice, he's gregarious and wants to be hip, wants to be at the center of it all. If they borrowed anything, it was his accomplishments/ideas- little else. Who was this other guy you're speaking of?
@ebrooks6745
@ebrooks6745 9 жыл бұрын
GlanceofGlory .... yeah....but don did sit down with cooper's man at the wall street journal and was very George Lois in that interview....
@scrabtree1
@scrabtree1 9 жыл бұрын
6:19 - "everybody in the music business thinks if MTV was successful it would destroy people buying music" -- How ironic to hear this in a KZbin video.
@palmatrh
@palmatrh 4 жыл бұрын
Mad Men, what a marvelous look into the world of my parents. I would have been about Bobby's age then. I was born in 56. It helps me to understand the nightly martinis and the indifferent parental style. Fast forward 30 years when I was raising my kids in the 90's and I was involved with everything and that's not an exaggeration. My kids were going to have the memories and opportunities that my parents could have cared less about. Now my kids have kids and they are busy with their lives and doing beautifully. The irony is I am treated with the same indifference by my children that I experienced from my parents. I'm beginning to wonder if my parents had it right all along
@kargs5krun
@kargs5krun 3 жыл бұрын
Life is very, very, Ironic......no escaping that no matter how hard we try......it seems. 🤔😮🙄
@shrujay4035
@shrujay4035 3 жыл бұрын
We miss what we couldn't have and don't appretiate what we do have. 1st part is for you, 2nd for your children. I hope they come around.
@palmatrh
@palmatrh 3 жыл бұрын
@@wordwan You've just read a real life account of what my parents were like. Stereotypes often are rooted in a kernel of truth. I drew the contrast between their alcohol soaked self absorbed value system and my helicopter parental style lamenting my children's lack of communication.
@cashmoneychanel1209
@cashmoneychanel1209 2 жыл бұрын
@@palmatrh the key is something in between
@jpmnky
@jpmnky 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like these parenting styles rotate in cycles. You did the best you could and at the end of the day that’s all that matters.
@AnotherAntonio
@AnotherAntonio 10 жыл бұрын
VICE - The Real Click-Baiter?
@fagballsmcassbutts5398
@fagballsmcassbutts5398 10 жыл бұрын
it's clickbait that delivers
@brshaw8084
@brshaw8084 9 жыл бұрын
Fagballs McAssbutts Yours is the best name I have ever heard on KZbin.
@GD-hg5wf
@GD-hg5wf 9 жыл бұрын
Antonio Perez Someone finally said it!
@MaoRuiqi
@MaoRuiqi 10 жыл бұрын
Got the feeling that this mini documentary started with a premise that quickly eroded as numbers of interviews went in directions perhaps not initially contemplated. In short, Draper's best talent may be self-promotion; Lois' best talent back then may have also been self-promotion.
@globaltoleranceproject
@globaltoleranceproject 2 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace to George Lois, who passed away on November 18th, 2022.
@VICE
@VICE 10 жыл бұрын
George Lois helped create legendary ad campaigns, break major companies to the world, and design 92 covers for Esquire. He's sometimes referred to as the inspiration for Don Draper.
@maxgoedvolk3382
@maxgoedvolk3382 10 жыл бұрын
not to be a dick, but isnt "madman's real don draper" a more slick title ?
@sierracampbell1292
@sierracampbell1292 10 жыл бұрын
max goedvolk grammatically, that suggests that George Lois was an invention of madmen. :)
@veryboredpug
@veryboredpug 10 жыл бұрын
max goedvolk They actually just wrote it that way to match the other "Real" series in title structure.
@blopablo2
@blopablo2 9 жыл бұрын
***** its a Creative Director, he was a copy in the past before Roger found him.
@tonysannicolas3936
@tonysannicolas3936 9 жыл бұрын
Pablo Figueroa He was selling fur coats before Roger found him - he came up with ads for the coat company
@skatefan9495
@skatefan9495 9 жыл бұрын
Don Draper is Creative Director, not Art Director.
@imaxdigital7052
@imaxdigital7052 9 жыл бұрын
+idolfan9495 same thing... some agencies have either/or, others have both. The only reason one would have both is because everyone important wants a distinct and definitive title.
@skatefan9495
@skatefan9495 9 жыл бұрын
+Max Wilson On the show, Sal was the Art Director. And after he got fired, Stan was.
@imaxdigital7052
@imaxdigital7052 9 жыл бұрын
+idolfan9495 I've never even seen the show all the the way through and don't know the names of most of the characters. But I have worked for multiple agencies and am just saying that these titles are subjective and mean only what agencies make them out to mean. For instance, we only had an Art Director, who handled not only the oversight if all renderings/ art related aspects of projects, but also was a main part of the idea-creating/ approving process as well. I'm just saying the Titles are subjective and that's a fact...
@skatefan9495
@skatefan9495 9 жыл бұрын
But the comment was referring to the show. DD was not Art Director on the show. Someone else was.
@imaxdigital7052
@imaxdigital7052 9 жыл бұрын
idolfan9495 Oh, I understand now. The video was creating a notion that the character was based off of this guy, so you were simply asserting the obvious discrepancy that Vice seemed to have missed.
@TravisHeinze
@TravisHeinze 9 жыл бұрын
I no longer want my MTV
@bobbiehall2705
@bobbiehall2705 5 жыл бұрын
MTV CLASSIC IS GOOD!
@gardensofthegods
@gardensofthegods 5 жыл бұрын
Yep because it's not what it used to be.... a music channel
@buffalobraxton6762
@buffalobraxton6762 4 жыл бұрын
Why
@buffalobraxton6762
@buffalobraxton6762 4 жыл бұрын
Nvm I see
@MarieTheOstrich
@MarieTheOstrich Жыл бұрын
Don Draper was a Creative Director and he is modeled after Draper Daniels. Its simple research, people
@TheZchristina97
@TheZchristina97 7 жыл бұрын
People are looking at this video wrong. No he's not the inspiration for Draper's exact personality. But he held a similar job position which the show was centered around.
@MrBahBZ
@MrBahBZ 6 жыл бұрын
So did thousands of others, and they're just as undeserving of a Vice highlight or claim to be the Draper archetype. You're the one looking at this video wrong.
@rotwart
@rotwart 6 жыл бұрын
TheZchristina97 - You're looking at the video wrong, idiot.
@andrewlindner5018
@andrewlindner5018 6 жыл бұрын
Don't be mean, Jane Goodnut. Support your claim without name-calling. The fact you're here and passionate about this subject tells me you're capable of doing so. Why not do so? I agree with MrBahBZ and TheZchristina97. They both make good points. What point is it that you're really trying to make?
@rotwart
@rotwart 6 жыл бұрын
That it is a presumptive and offensive generalisation to state 'people are looking at this video wrong'. If he has that opinion about a particular commentator then state that as a reply to that person's comment. But a blanket assertion like that is patently hyperbole - I'm not looking at the video wrong at all, to say I am is dumb.
@andrewlindner5018
@andrewlindner5018 6 жыл бұрын
Jane Goodnut, I love you. You're fabulous and talented.
@lippyslip
@lippyslip 10 жыл бұрын
People, look up the name Draper Daniels...although he was a Chicago Ad Man, many think he's the, or at least one of the main influences for Don...pretty telling that Weiner named the character Draper. Also that The Draper character came from the midwest, just outside Chicago in fact. This guy Lois is so boastful that it immediately screams of his insecurity. The character of Don Draper is confident and headstrong regarding his talents, but pretty secure without the need to scream it from the rooftops. This guy comes off like an immature crybaby clown. Very UN-Draper like.
@Lootroq
@Lootroq 9 жыл бұрын
Gregory Gove Exactly, Don Draper knows he's the shit. He didn't feel the need to tell you something you already knew in that regard
@Lootroq
@Lootroq 9 жыл бұрын
***** Confidence and self esteem are tricky things. He's aware of his abilities and talents and is confident about those things and his general efficacy in life. What he does lack is a genuine sense of self worth. Those two things mechanistically different.
@lippyslip
@lippyslip 9 жыл бұрын
I could never imaging the Don Draper character in his old age boasting in this kind of animated way.
@Lootroq
@Lootroq 9 жыл бұрын
Gregory Gove Definitely not
@HaiLeQuang
@HaiLeQuang 5 жыл бұрын
Don was Creative Director, this man was Art Director. You missed it, Vice.
@shivamk.804
@shivamk.804 6 жыл бұрын
His character has been my inspiration to be in advertising for the past 5 years. Stopped the video as soon as VICE called him an art director. He is a copywriter turned creative director.
@Salharmonic1
@Salharmonic1 6 жыл бұрын
Draper wasn't an art director, he was a copywriter and then a creative director, there is a distinction.
@marcomaccoronado
@marcomaccoronado 7 жыл бұрын
why is Ace Ventura interviewing this guy
@nataliebondurant6217
@nataliebondurant6217 7 жыл бұрын
I love her sense of style and haircut! so beautiful!
@shivendrayadav9704
@shivendrayadav9704 3 жыл бұрын
Her name?
@TallGreyMan
@TallGreyMan 3 жыл бұрын
Don Draper was a copywriter. George Lois was/is an Art Director/ Graphic Designer. Salvatore Romano was the Art Director in the show. So George Lois is probably the real Salvatore Romano. It’s funny how so many people are calling George Lois the real life Don Draper and completely missing the point.
@KittySnicker
@KittySnicker Жыл бұрын
Bold of this guy to assume Don Draper had no talent and that he has all the talent. Like okay, Squidward.
@markbond1431
@markbond1431 8 жыл бұрын
is that where the MadMen intro came from ? @1:30
@AbbyMore
@AbbyMore 8 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what was the meaning behind the man falling off.
@thorabitch
@thorabitch 8 жыл бұрын
That's such a great connection, I never even realized that before you pointed that out :')
@cinimod351
@cinimod351 8 жыл бұрын
+greencorinne8 it reminds me more of hitchcocks movie vertigo. the spinning falling man. that movie was from the same era. and in that movie the woman had two seperate identities like draper. I think that is possibly where the maker of madmen drew his inspiration from for Dons character
@rainman9750
@rainman9750 8 жыл бұрын
Mark Bond hmm interesting. that's why I read the comments. thanks for your take
@ToddIngram1000
@ToddIngram1000 8 жыл бұрын
I just assumed it was to hint at Don's sort of hazardous nature. I think Pete mentioned that he doesn't care about money, he only cares about reaching the next level. I just assumed it was him being so ambitious he was ready to commit career-suicide (think of the anti-tobacco ad) in order to distinguish himself.
@thephilosopherofculture4559
@thephilosopherofculture4559 4 жыл бұрын
When I was young and started in advertising, I had come to know personally several people in advertising who were like Don Draper, even one very young one. They are not that rare but there are not many and they disappeared from the scene between 1985 - 1993 in my country. Things got too sophisticated, too scientific, too strategic for people to just walk in with an idea based on nothing but an alcoholic epiphany. I have experienced only one instance where that worked, with Mercedes advertising but that was in 1982. The whole point is that Mad Men is fiction and it is called fiction for a reason. Reality is boring although there used to be a lot more internal intrige and sex involved than shown in the series. The sex disappeared, too, by the mid-eighties it was gone. I don't know why, actually.
@blava3155
@blava3155 4 жыл бұрын
Well, the show was based on the sixties which is earlier than the time period you mentioned where many behaviours present in advertising have been abandoned.
@thephilosopherofculture4559
@thephilosopherofculture4559 4 жыл бұрын
@@blava3155 That's right. One of the characteristics that disappeared by the end of the seventies is that one was dealing with the managing directors. As professionalism set in, one started to deal with professionals instead of the one who put his signature on the cheques. The real transformation was from advertising as a battle of opinions to advertising as a consequence of facts and strategy. But that is boring as hell even if it led to better advertising. You should not forget that the amount of messages to the public increased tremendously. A good idea was sufficient in the fifties. In the sixties you needed to have a lot more, like targeting the audience more precisely. This is shown in the series with the account manager who becomes the media guy. In the USA, advertising and marketing are almost synonymous, so there is more interest in advertising. In Europe, it is marketing that gets interest and people tend to hate advertising and see it as an intrusion. When I first was in the USA, 1982, I watched TV for a day and I was amazed that I could not figure out whether I watched the beginning of the next scene of a sitcom started or a commercial. That would not be possible in Europe.
@timazbill7746
@timazbill7746 4 жыл бұрын
AIDS is why the sex stopped
@xpez9694
@xpez9694 4 жыл бұрын
@12:34 this little end nugget is great. Love the wisdom from seniors whom have done it all before and have bottom line advice about life! LOL You know this idea of stealing credit is always what happens at agencies and design studios. Some design agencies funnel all of the ideas through one person. So they let this one person who is good on the phone sell the idea but its actually the work of many others. And they let this person take all of the credit. Its makes things convenient for marketing the agency/studio for the credit to go to one person. They get to bath in the limelight of some fame whilst the other talents who did all of the work are scratching their heads..THIS IS HOW THIS SHIT WORKS IN THIS BUSINESS??? THEN FINALLY WHEN THEY CANT TAKE THE IDEA OF SOMEONE TAKING ALL OF THE CREDIT FOR THEIR WORK THEY QUIT.. THATS OK THEY FILL IT WITH ANOTHER NAIVE GRADUATE EAGER TO WORK HARD AND MAKE THEIR MARK ONLY TO REALIZE AFTER A FEW YEARS OF WINNING AWARDS AND NOT GETTING CREDIT THEY QUIT....... AND THEY REALIZE ITS BULLSHIT...UNTIL THEY MAKE THEIR OWN COMPANY! THEN THEY CAN EXPLOIT TALENT AND CLAIM ALL OF THE CREDIT AND BE WHO THEY DESPISED!!!!
@donedeal7751
@donedeal7751 10 жыл бұрын
THIS VIDEO PROVES PS4 IS BETTER THEN XBOX ONE
@johnn6699
@johnn6699 10 жыл бұрын
*than
@ukeuwatch
@ukeuwatch 10 жыл бұрын
Paisley Plays What M8? The Real Dizz From 'Idiocracy'?
@ukeuwatch
@ukeuwatch 9 жыл бұрын
Paisley Plays What M8? ha ha butthurt
@pakk82
@pakk82 9 жыл бұрын
ukeuwatch excuse me but that is an obscure reference.
@TonyStark-bn5xb
@TonyStark-bn5xb 9 жыл бұрын
Rich Homie Tom #CavsFanSince July 11th 2014 we all already knew that
@stenbak88
@stenbak88 10 жыл бұрын
My grandpa was one of these guys but in LA and my grandma tells me stories about his life back then and it is pretty damn close to mad men. Great story vice you have done it again
@iarevalo94
@iarevalo94 4 жыл бұрын
The title says Don Draper. His voice says Teddy from Bob’s Burgers
@k.r.murphy4301
@k.r.murphy4301 8 жыл бұрын
He's not the art director. He's Creative!!
@TheWerewolfJesus
@TheWerewolfJesus 9 жыл бұрын
0:29 -- Don Draper is not the art director, he is the creative director.
@EricJohnsonChannel
@EricJohnsonChannel 6 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a great agency to work for, and Duck is the man to run it.
@Eric________
@Eric________ 9 жыл бұрын
Everyone lies, cheats and steals in advertising. I've been in the game for 8 years and it's all stress topped with ego. But in the end, when a campaign goes live, it's the greatest high any career will ever give you.
@kargs5krun
@kargs5krun 3 жыл бұрын
2 sentences out of 3 "aint bad." #canyoufigure 😳🙄
@willy541000
@willy541000 4 жыл бұрын
The creator even says that Don Draper is based off of Draper Daniels who created the Marlboro campaign. Daniels worked in Chicago,but he was a genius like don and also like don he was a bad businessman. Oh and like others have said this guy was an art director and not creative director or copywriter.
@Doral4720
@Doral4720 5 жыл бұрын
Take it from an ex-McCann-Erickson executive, George Lois is not the real life Don Draper. No one self promotes himself more than George Lois.
@jed52
@jed52 10 жыл бұрын
That first 15 seconds. Truer words have never been spoken.
@KRGE41
@KRGE41 4 жыл бұрын
It's Salvatore Romano's life, not Don. Don is the boss. George stated that Mad Men misinterpreting 1960's Mad Ave advertising industry. I think he should consider that it was not he's life that was being portayed. 🤔
@inquisitivechimp5408
@inquisitivechimp5408 10 жыл бұрын
He's Greek-American. Thus the cool flag on 1:06 and 1:09.
@LaitoChen
@LaitoChen 9 жыл бұрын
12:06 "the similarities are ironic", um, don't you mean coincidental?! Where's the irony??
@michuk007
@michuk007 9 жыл бұрын
Prince Blake that is cos they aren't real similarities...this guy is nothing like Don Draper
@Lawrenceklutz
@Lawrenceklutz 4 жыл бұрын
Came here looking for people comparing the achievements of a fictional character with those of a real person and was not disappointed.
@MichelleDenise64
@MichelleDenise64 7 жыл бұрын
If someone is going to give you money, then do it by all means. That line gave me a giggle.
@maverickschneider8910
@maverickschneider8910 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I have such a hard time sitting through vice videos.
@TocnicAndrew
@TocnicAndrew 5 жыл бұрын
This is like an old man Peter Griffin
@ozark8944
@ozark8944 6 жыл бұрын
I seen alot of TV series but none comes close to Mad Men so much Drama, Details and the shock factors.
@Log1cTech
@Log1cTech 9 жыл бұрын
Holy damn, the host is SMOKIN"!!
@bretthatesgirlsify
@bretthatesgirlsify 6 жыл бұрын
i get it b/c she looks like ace ventura
@groberti
@groberti 6 жыл бұрын
She has a beautiful face but her hair is just bad
@melciveng
@melciveng 5 жыл бұрын
Grobee I love her hair
@bestwordsmith
@bestwordsmith 6 жыл бұрын
He's not the art director--he's the creative director--Big difference.
@LukeWilliamsMusic
@LukeWilliamsMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Don Draper was creative director, not art director. Pretty silly thing to mess up
@larrygotter5609
@larrygotter5609 3 жыл бұрын
Reminder that Vice is the type of organization who if given the opportunity to remake madmen, would cast female people of color to play all the guy parts, because, "WOMAN CAN DO IT TOO HURR DURR."
@villegas24
@villegas24 5 жыл бұрын
I thought don was full of himself but this guy takes the cake.
@sinceremilkoftheword9754
@sinceremilkoftheword9754 10 жыл бұрын
I loved Mad Men, nice interview
@arricammarques1955
@arricammarques1955 6 жыл бұрын
Many stories will never be made public.
@connorbyers1872
@connorbyers1872 5 жыл бұрын
Don Draper had more class and legitimacy than this guy has ever dreamt of having.
@ALPHAWHISKEY
@ALPHAWHISKEY 2 ай бұрын
I tell you what, 10 years later watching this video, He is nothing like Don Draper but in fact, a whole lot more interesting character!
@jacquesdevos6817
@jacquesdevos6817 4 жыл бұрын
Now I know what Dire Straits meant when they said "I want my MTV"
@User-wt9jk
@User-wt9jk 5 жыл бұрын
Had her story went that he threatened to throw THEM out the window, instead of himself, it would’ve sounded a little more Don Draperish 😂😂
@oscarwilde16ts
@oscarwilde16ts 6 жыл бұрын
Don Draper is a brilliant creative fiction - a copywriter based Creative Director. Copywriters generally do make the best team leaders. George Lois is a Creative. A man hard done by at times - a man who set himslef, with a little luck, in the right place with the right ideas at the right time. A man who created himself, as much as the mixture of illusion, ethics, politics and culture that make good advertising. All good creatives steal. Inspiration is not theft.
@FrostedSeagull
@FrostedSeagull 4 жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting that George makes to Tony Soprano at the 2'18 mark. Interesting How - Mad Men was a hit because the "creative team " from The Sopranos worked on It from its inception. I discovered Mad Men late but quickly pick ed up on The Sopranos vibe. That series was based on the real De Cavaclante crime family. Tony Soprano based on an amalgam of "real life capos ( Mafia captains)". These same writers and directors from The Sopranos had listened to hours of FBI conversation. Real life so-called Mafiosi repeatedly alleged that an FBI informants were giving these guys the great stories, capers and dialogue for the TV series. It's obvious that the creative team for Mad Man based their ideas on George Lois.
@matthewmaguire3771
@matthewmaguire3771 2 жыл бұрын
So therein is the paradox....When phony, contrived and full blown fakes are the most seductive and reveal true insights.
@killacam2644
@killacam2644 10 жыл бұрын
Damn this girl is drop dead gorgeous.
@CatastrophicalPencil
@CatastrophicalPencil 7 жыл бұрын
ffs people, it's still fun to actually hear him talk about the 60s and all the shit going down, and because he's erratic he's funny. He says himself he's the opposite of Don...
@zachjarrett8730
@zachjarrett8730 2 жыл бұрын
Draper Daniels is the inspiration for Don Draper. Chicago was the heart of the Mad Men zeitgeist. So maybe that is real irony. New York want to mythologize it’s own creation story by couching it in a man who exemplifies the artful dodger. The story is the man, and the man is the story.
@reggievanness
@reggievanness 9 жыл бұрын
I very much like this info ! Thanks for sharing...
@reidlinot1
@reidlinot1 4 жыл бұрын
The only similiarity they have is that they were both good at the same job around the same time, this video is misleading.
@arcon97
@arcon97 5 жыл бұрын
This guy is nothing like Don Draper. This guy also seems to have taken credit all the time for other peoples' work.
@charlessomerset9754
@charlessomerset9754 4 жыл бұрын
Claims he's nothing like Don Draper, but exudes the same confidence, swagger, and ego. So yeah, outside of the New York accent, this is the guy.
@Avonbarksdaleable
@Avonbarksdaleable Жыл бұрын
So that Lois guy was kind of the P Diddy of advertising 😂
@maxczapski2239
@maxczapski2239 4 жыл бұрын
Don was the Creative Director, not an Art Director.
@garvwadhwaney306
@garvwadhwaney306 3 жыл бұрын
CREATIVE DIRECTOR. NOT art. CREATIVE.
@peter455sd
@peter455sd 9 жыл бұрын
Gianna Toboni is simply adorable
@Ulexcool
@Ulexcool 9 жыл бұрын
peter455sd No she isn´t.
@peter455sd
@peter455sd 9 жыл бұрын
.
@peter455sd
@peter455sd 9 жыл бұрын
.
@Ulexcool
@Ulexcool 9 жыл бұрын
peter455sd Well that "girl" looks like a man so...
@peter455sd
@peter455sd 9 жыл бұрын
.
@alexisdraper3100
@alexisdraper3100 8 жыл бұрын
I hate how everyone thinks the real Don Draper wasn't a good man...
@lolmomz
@lolmomz 10 жыл бұрын
Do the real sherlock holmes
@zan700
@zan700 7 жыл бұрын
it's the books author, or someone he knew, can't remember anymore
@yogeshniraula7736
@yogeshniraula7736 6 жыл бұрын
You’d have to go back a couple centuries to do that😂😂
@pyroVoid
@pyroVoid 8 жыл бұрын
This same interview is in some Ad Documentary on Netflix. George must have so many stories.
@brousi
@brousi 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, I rate 5/5 but when you said, what was I later found an actual name of a firm, "Doyle Dane Bernbach" 2:50 , at first time I didn't even register it, because it was not visualized graphically, it just shows the photograph with their names, but that's too much info at once to process and connect the dots for some people, me included. It's only because that was too fast for me probably, I need proper English subtitles.... please, developers, work faster on better and improved artificial intelligence.
@kevin1049
@kevin1049 10 жыл бұрын
So he's the Tony Soprano of the Advertising World when he threatens his client to throw himself out a window?
@irvingklaw57
@irvingklaw57 9 жыл бұрын
Damn this story turned on George real quick. Fast-talking-grease ball
@micklemore
@micklemore 8 жыл бұрын
I listened to serial podcast with Sarah Koenig a few months ago, I just finished watching mad men. I find this video on my recommendations and discover the guy don draper is loseys based on, had a partner whos daughter dis serial... crazy small world.
@memeyloaf7999
@memeyloaf7999 6 жыл бұрын
“It’s Toasted”.
@lovekushwah6044
@lovekushwah6044 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone? Who is the reporter with short hair interviewing people? I kind fell in love! 🙇
@kellymunizbrowne4203
@kellymunizbrowne4203 5 жыл бұрын
For god's sake, Don Draper was NOT an art director! ARGH. He was a copywriter, then copy chief, then creative director. Creative directors can come from a design or copy background.
@chrisfires
@chrisfires 9 жыл бұрын
I'm sure everyone has said this already, but Don Draper was/is not an Art Director. If you can't get that simple fact right about the primary character in a mega hit TV series, I can't put any value into any of your alleged 'journalism'. FAIL.
@littlegordiesunshine
@littlegordiesunshine 9 жыл бұрын
Chris Herrmann Gillespie you're the first and thank-you. i enjoyed the piece but don draper's title is creative director and he rose to that position from being a copy writer. to me, it's a fairly major distinction and makes the whole vice team seem lazy to have missed the mistake even though it was just a puff piece.
@roberthuddle.7290
@roberthuddle.7290 Жыл бұрын
Next time Vice, do your research! The character of Don Draper is partially inspired by Draper Daniels, a creative director at Leo Burnett advertising agency in Chicago in the 1950s, who worked on the Marlboro Man campaign; and by Bill Backer, an advertising executive at McCann Erickson who created the "I'd Like to Buy the World a Coke" ad in 1971
@fxdauns
@fxdauns 5 жыл бұрын
Don Draper is David Ogilvy
@sanfran224
@sanfran224 8 жыл бұрын
I'm sick of the real ... where is the real batman
@jessefoirfe1224
@jessefoirfe1224 8 жыл бұрын
Have you heard of ELON MUSK
@yixiongpan4206
@yixiongpan4206 8 жыл бұрын
He is Iron Man
@andrewvideogamesYT
@andrewvideogamesYT 10 жыл бұрын
"Your a Bum" XD I died
@timward3116
@timward3116 Жыл бұрын
A Chicago documentary claimed Don Draper was based on Draper Daniels, a guy at Leo Burnett in Chicago. And many of the ad campaigns in the show were actually Leo Burnett ad campaigns - so this New York guy may have provided some inspiration but probably not most of it.
@fritzki1
@fritzki1 10 жыл бұрын
holy shit, haven't liked a Vice vid in ages!
@xXTheFlyingVikingXx
@xXTheFlyingVikingXx 10 жыл бұрын
Then why are you subscribed?
@fritzki1
@fritzki1 10 жыл бұрын
because before "in ages" there was some pretty darn good, consistent content coming out
@Copano_DSP
@Copano_DSP 10 жыл бұрын
There is always Vice News
@fritzki1
@fritzki1 10 жыл бұрын
Koleu yeah, decent channel.
@scottfrancisco8514
@scottfrancisco8514 10 жыл бұрын
I agree; very few Vice video's impress me... Vice pretends to be alternative media; but it pushes the same mainstream propaganda... Most Vice videos are 30% tall tale and 70% "true"... Many videos are 99% fake; and its obvious.... People don't trust Vice anymore
@humanforfreedom9583
@humanforfreedom9583 6 жыл бұрын
George lois is the guy in the "I am ali" documentary!!! I recognised him straight away
@maximilliancunningham6091
@maximilliancunningham6091 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.
@kelschc
@kelschc 20 күн бұрын
This video is not even close. One, Draper was a creative director, not an art director. Which means he worked with words and pictures, he didn’t just think visually. And you could see it in his pitch meetings how he could think conceptually. The more accurate person he was based on was a creative director at Leo Burnett named Draper Daniels. Research that one.
@sourcreamlobster
@sourcreamlobster 4 жыл бұрын
Not all passionate Creatives are Don Drapers.
@montygranito
@montygranito 4 жыл бұрын
The show wasn’t even really about the ads . It’s was about the characters. Draper didn’t care about the ads..he didn’t have an ego...that was Don Drapers problem ..he didn’t believe anything he did was ever good enough. George Lois and Don Draper are not similar in any way. Don didn’t even Care about the awards he won. Did you watch the show?
@Mathemoto
@Mathemoto 7 жыл бұрын
I had to pause right at the beginning, art director? He's a Creative Director.
@Desekratedd
@Desekratedd 10 жыл бұрын
The resemblance is astonishing
@mp517q
@mp517q 10 жыл бұрын
Black guy at 3:38.. Respect
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