The REAL History of Nicaea You Never Knew

[@Cookies-i2f]

An ex Anglican here. I still love Nicene Creed. I attend a Baptist church now. I miss the structure of the Anglican Church. I feel kinda lonely in my faith walk sometimes.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

I love it too, thats why my church follows most of the Anglican litergy.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

So sorry to hear this - praying you're able to find community and connection!

[@Sarahscarabara]

I agree! I grew up Presbyterian and honestly I hated church so I don’t remember how often we did all of this but very often we recited the Lord’s Prayer, the doxology and the nicene creed.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

@@Sarahscarabara do you miss that at all?

[@Sarahscarabara]

@@TheRemnantRadio absolutely! It’s hard to find a church that believes in the gifts and doesn’t think this stuff is “religious”. Now that I understand the richness of it all. It’s also very unifying. And I think that it planted seeds in me as a young child.. like indoctrination but in a good way 🤣 I really strayed but I think since I had having such a draw toward new age as I got older that repeating those truths over and over kept me from getting in some serious trouble spiritually. We also sung out of hymnals (not only) which I miss as well.

[@ShawnRavish]

I'm so glad this popped up, I love listening to this channel, and I love Gavin Ortland with Truth unites... His work on councils historical protestantism is so insightful, and it's great to see you guys diving in there as well.

[@MrPaulmark19]

I am personally bothered at the Slogan "No Creed but the Bible". Many modern Evangelicals especially the Prosperity Gospel Word of Faith Churches unfortunately expressed such slogan. That's dangerous.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

Agreed

[@smokydogy]

Its only dangerous to you because you know your stuff is unbiblical the moment the text itself is a threat you are in the wrong and thats all there is to say. I have only had "sola scriptura" arguments with catholics or weirdos with weird creeds never from in person sincere christians. You people are so stuck up but you are correct scripture is a threat to your beliefes so someone who circumvents human authority in favor of solely jesus is a threat to your existence that is correct. We can change it from "solely scripture" to "solely Jesus"

[@chaseh2371]

As an ex-ihoper turned church planter in the Middle East, I think your course is exactly what I’m looking for. Now that I’m seeing Muslims get saved and we are discipline them/raising up local pastors and elders, and everything that hit the fan at ihop last year, it’s cause me to go back to the Bible and church history in a new way. Almost like “Deconstructing of Mike Bickle Ideology” and wanting to make sure the foundation we are laying in the Middle East has nothing to do with a false prophetic history and the teachings/culture that fueled it; but being built on the Word of God and church history

[@chaseh2371]

Discipling * though spiritual discipline does happen at times 😂

[@christyeast1434]

Have you listened to any Jamie Winship videos? He spent decades in the middle east. I bet you'd enjoy his stories and hearing about his experiences.

[@mannurse7421]

“Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am”

[@dboulos7]

“Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am he” - the Messiah

[@jeremyjordan1094]

Would love to see Gavin Ortlund back on the show. Remnant and Truth Unites are my favorite two channels

[@MrSeedi76]

Same here. That would be something I'd definitely watch.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

we will have to do that shortly

[@JesusOrtiz-rz4df]

Im a Oneness Pentecostal, or was, i don’t know where I am at, I love remnant radio, something ghat has me really confused is the doctrine of the Jesus being eternally begotten, I don’t see it in scripture. Im happy to make more research if you guys point me to the right direction

[@JesusJunkie2023]

I went from Oneness to biblical Unitarian after studying the early church fathers, finding out we had been terribly misled. 21st century Reformation Channel, are a group of previous Oneness pastors that turned the "lights on", for me🙏

[@matthewashman1406]

Wonderful, councilor, almighty God, everlasting Father.

[@jaredgilmore3102]

Do you mean the doctrine of the trinity where the persons of the trinity are one in essence but separate persons or the doctrine that Jesus who is a person in the trinity is eternal?

[@MrSeedi76]

I think the solution to this miracle is the logos theology. Jesus is the logos, the wisdom of God with which He created the world. Did God first create His wisdom or did He always have it? Of course He always had wisdom. So His son is "eternally begotten" in that sense. The trinity might not be directly named in the Bible but all the elements are there. Why else would Jesus tell His disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit?

[@mannurse7421]

If Jesus isn’t God than Christianity is meaningless. He was crucified for claiming to be God. His sacrifice had to be perfect. We are saved entirely by Gods mercy or grace if a human did it then we are just like every other religion, with enough pride to think we can build our own towers to heaven.

[@Breadbreakers]

Long story short: Creed's can be useful summaries, insofar as they agree with and are supported by the whole council of scripture.

[@alisonbabichenko4043]

I’m so excited for this one!!

[@TheRemnantRadio]

we put a lot of work into this one. Glad you are looking forward to it.

[@lindaetherton5828]

Me too. Just listening to why they banned the 22 books from the Ethiopian Bible. Interested in your thoughts.

[@aaronvienot]

Okay, that was an interesting summary of the creed's history, but I was hoping you might have a deeper look at its statements. "I believe in God the Father...maker of heaven and earth" is not an accurate summary of Scripture! While it isn't wrong (e.g. compare 1 Cor.8:6 & Eph. 4:6) it does not align with explicit statements found in John 1:1-14, Col.1:12-17, Heb.2:1-13, and Rev.4:2-11. Once the NT reveals the full teaching of the Trinity, there is a clear arc where the Son creates the world, enters that world in humility, dies and rises, calls a people out of the world, and will return to reign over it. In Scripture He receives glory for all of that, including His work as Creator! He doesn't receive all of that from the creedal statement. Why would we then repeat the creed when the full Scripture is right there, and so much better?

[@MrSeedi76]

Valid point, I think.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

We will dive into the teachings of the creeds in later videos. However, this video is simply an introduction to the history of the creed. Throughout the Scriptures, the Father is attributed as the Creator, creating by and through the agency of the Son. The creed is not attempting to explain all of Scripture perfectly; rather, it aims to summarize what all Christians believe. There is nothing in the creed that is untrue, though admittedly, there is much that is true which is not included in the creed.

[@TheEmptyeye]

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

[@aaronvienot]

@@TheEmptyeyeI would point out that "LORD" there would be YHWH, i.e. Jehovah or Yahweh. There doesn't appear to be a complete revelation of the Trinity in the Old Testament, so it's often difficult to discern which member of the Godhead is being spoken about in passages like that one.

[@TheEmptyeye]

@@aaronvienot Eph 4:4-6 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. - 1 Cor 8:6 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. - Jn 14:7 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Jn 16: 25 25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father. Blessings to you. ✝️💟☝️

[@gabrielleanointed]

Please do a video on the Westminster Confession if you haven’t already. I’ve been studying in for the past couple of months and I’d appreciate hearing more of your commentary on it.

[@horvathliviu2101]

nice debate. I recommend some books I read on the subject: Georges Florovsky, Bible, Church, Tradition: An Eastern Orthodox View, Jaroslav Pelikan , The Christian Tradition: A History of the Development of Doctrine, Vol. 1: The Emergence of the Catholic Tradition (100-600), Credo: Historical and Theological Guide to Creeds and Confessions of Faith in the Christian Tradition, The Cambridge History of Christianity by Margaret M. Mitchell (Editor), Frances M. Young .

[@KREG875]

This was a great discussion!! I believe the creeds and earlier councils were necessary to expound upon the Scripture and what the apostles understood from the teachings of our Lord Jesus. They were also integral in early apologetics against heretical movements. I enjoyed the insight you guys gave regarding this. Thank you gentlemen!! 🙏🏽

[@aaronvienot]

Finally in on a premier! Curious to see how your take is the same or different from Gavin Ortlund's recent video.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

what did you think, how different was it LOL. We will tackle the teaching of the creeds in future videos.

[@aaronvienot]

@@TheRemnantRadio I felt Ortlund went reasonably deep into the statements which have strong Scriptural support but glossed over some of the more difficult ones (such as "maker of heaven and earth" per second thread above). I'll be looking forward to your deep dive, because in church history, I see creeds being the strength of early martyrs who had little else to cling to as they burned, but then becoming a stumbling block in better times when Christians parked on creeds and confessions instead of entering fully into the Scriptures.

[@christianhernandez3044]

This is going to be great, hello from a college student in Tallahassee!

[@TheRemnantRadio]

hey there thanks for watching

[@lindaetherton5828]

Marcionism is alive and well today. One of our pastors only holds to the books of Paul.

[@Bible4k]

If you follow the RED letters in The Book of John you will come away with the same Doctrine the Paul Preached, 🫱one-lord & ONE-God. Clement Greeted by Paul in Philippines 4:3, had Apostolic procession, ran 1st church Rome from 60-90AD till Martyred. Here's Clement: 1 Clement 59:4. "Let all the Gentiles know that ☝️Thou art the God alone, and 🫴 Jesus Christ is Thy Son. John 17:3 Jesus said... "Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the ☝️only true God, 🫴and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent." Irenaeus~ Against Heresies 3.9.1 (180-200AD) The Lord Himself handing down to His disciples, that He, the Father, is the ☝️only God and Lord, who 👉alone is God and ruler of all… Wherefore I do also call upon thee,👉 Lord God of Abraham, and God of Isaac, and God of Jacob and Israel, who art the Father of our lord Jesus Christ, ☝️the God who, through the abundance of Thy mercy, hast had a favour towards us, that we should know Thee, Who hast made heaven and earth, who rulest over all, who art the 👉"only and the true God"👈 above whom there is none other God; Grant, by our Lord Jesus Christ, the governing power of the Holy Spirit; give to every reader of this book to know Thee, that ☝️Thou art God alone, to be strengthened in Thee, And to "avoid every heretical, and godless, and impious doctrine". (Like the trinity😇) Rev 3:21 KJV To him that overcomith , will I grant to sit with me on 🫴"My Throne"; even as I also overcame, and ad set down with ☝️"my father" on his throne. (✌️2 SEPARATE THONES!!) Matthew 19:28 Jesus said to them, “Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the 🫴"Son Of Man👈 will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Acts 7:5 Stephen looked up to heaven & saw the "Glory of God, and 🫴"Jesus standing" at the right hand of ☝️God. 56 “Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and 🫴"The Son of Man, Standing at the right hand of God.” The Narrative got out of hand and apologized for two arrogant to admit it.

[@McBadgersDad]

Starts @ 3:40

[@smokydogy]

Actually at 28:38 he is quoting from book of Jubilees which you would know but im sure you have a doctrine or creed that prevents you from reading it.

[@gardengirlmary]

Enjoyed this history of the early church. Encore!!!!

[@jamesbertram7925]

When Paul states in Second Timothy chapter 3v16, that all scripture is given by inspiration of God and is able to make you wise unto salvation , and adds through faith in Christ Jesus, but in v10, he says my doctrine, what does he mean? My understanding of Christianity is I AM.THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, and He marries the Scriptures with Him in the measure of how they Speak of Him as He says in John chapter 5v39, as He demonstrates in Luke chapter 24v27, but in Matthew chapter 19v7-9, Moses commanded, in contrast to I SAY UNTO YOU, and to understand what I am focusing on download every mention of His words , I SAY UNTO YOU in the whole of THE NEW TESTAMENT

[@EmmeliseShupe]

Hi, Remnant Radio! I just want to say how much I enjoy your biblical, balanced approach to various topics and theologies. Would you guys ever consider doing a program on polygamy/polygyny? I feel like this view on "biblical" marriage is becoming more widespread among Christians and it feels like a "cult" type movement, and I don't use that term lightly. This topic twigged on my mind again when Josh said " One body, the body of Christ, not multiple bodies." What I have noticed, among this "Christian polygyny" movement, is that this issue is bigger than biblical marriage it is a perversion of the representation of Christ and his church. I tired to share my biblical findings on one of these Christian polygamist pages but he deleted them lol...wonder if I struck a nerve! This movement is gaining a lot of traction with some Hebrew roots movement people, torah only observant groups, and men who quite frankly seem to be led by lust. I discovered a lot of information among the dead sea scrolls particularly the temple scrolls, and the Damascus document pertaining to Levitical law. It was interesting how the Qumran Jewish people believed in monogamy and interpreted Leviticus 18:18 as a direct ban on polygamy and what the Hebrew phrase "in addition to her sister" means and about Deuteronomy 17:17. The polygynists love to say "there is no law for it so its not a sin!" Makes me think of God's permissible will, but not perfect will. I also found it fascinating that the priests and high priests were monogamous (according to rabbinic law and no record of them being polygamous) and Jesus is our great high priest and we are his bride...not brides. I also discovered the Hebrew word for helper which means "Ezer" and how God uses that same Hebrew word when describing Eve as a helper to Adam as well as describing himself as a "Ezer" to Israel. I interpret this to meaning that he is our helper not helpers, even though we believe in the trinity, and this could lead to polytheism not monotheism with their train of thought on polygyny. Just my thoughts, I am in no way a scholar though! Sorry if this is long, I was trying to sum it up fast, and I don't know if you guys will read this or not. All I can say is this issue has been heavy on my heart. I have been praying for weeks about this, doing my own study on it, and seeking the Holy spirits' truth. It is amazing how the word and spirit go together and how He leads you in all truth. My little study has been amazing and beautiful. When you see the OT design of marriage, and how it is portrayed in the NT by Jesus and his bride, I can't compute how polygyny is his plan. I am even firmer now in my belief that God's intention for marriage is monogamy, even though I didn't need convincing! 2 Corinthians 11:2-4 comes to mind as a good verse for this. I feel this "Christian" Polygyny movement is a very slippery slope and borderline blasphemous (2 Peter 2 comes to mind). Not to mention they are misinterpreting verses like Titus 1:6 and the other ones for conduct for deacons. Also the Greek words idios' and heatou meaning "own", in reference to 1 Corinthians 7:1-5, they love to use to their advantage. If you guys end up reading this, thank you so much in advance! If not, thank you anyway for all you do for the Body of Christ! Between this topic and Cessationism I get really riled up! Blessings to you guys!

[@rebeccazenk1218]

Why do some churches recite the Nician creed weekly as part of their service, and some don't? I was raised in the Catholic church and this creed was held in the highest esteem.

[@prestonyannotti7661]

It's important to understand that both Catholics and Orthodox consider church history an extension of the Gospel and holds just as much importance

[@TheRemnantRadio]

We read it every Sunday in my church. The reason we read it is that I’m not always able to speak about the virgin birth or eternal judgment if my text that Sunday is about slaves and their masters. It serves as a helpful safety net, bringing us back to all that God has done for us so we can worship rightly.

[@itscoleperkins]

Thanks for the shoutout there Josh🤣 19:10

[@loudogg73]

What about the sparkle creed?

[@Runnerduckfarmer]

Interesting and informative. Thank you (The thing hanging on your ear?? distracting) sorry

[@christianhernandez3044]

Question for y’all: what do y’all think about the Spirit proceeding from the Father and Son? Is someone a heretic and not a believer if they take the position that Spirit only proceeds from the Father? Thinking about an Oriental Orthodox friend.

[@MrSeedi76]

I'd never call Eastern Orthodoxy "heretic". The problem is that they call us heretics. I (as a studied Protestant theologian) have zero problems with EO as long as they don't claim to me that they are the one true church and I'm lost because I'm not EO but on the other hand, it really doesn't bother me - I don't really know anyone who is EO (one of my professors at university was however - but university theology is altogether different from what's taught to "the flock" quite often - I had catholic professors, too, and one said to me, "at university level, it's all the same"). I guess a catholic might have a different opinion on that.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

not a heritic if they deny this. however, I do believe it is ture

[@christianhernandez3044]

@@TheRemnantRadioThanks. I thought it was a finer point so I just wanted to check. I didn’t think the thief on the cross or even me until I was 21 knew about that. I’m glad I wasn’t a heretic for over a decade

[@christianhernandez3044]

⁠@@MrSeedi76Thank you, sir. My friend is probably not saved but I’m unsure. He seems to think exactly what you described: I’m a heretic but I’ll make it. It’s very confusing

[@katiehonnery9059]

When we say the creed in church sometimes we say Jesus went to hell and sometimes we don’t

[@Cookies-i2f]

One substance with the father, is more accurate than one being with the father.

[@stuartc7771]

What does apostolic refer to in this creed.

[@sawette23]

How can we trust the people who were at the concile of Nicea ? How can we be sure they were in the right side ? Since we know there were a lot of divisions and disputs among them, clearly a lot of flesh involved and when we, evangelical people, decide when these officials concile started to be off the track ? Because you know very well that it is the begining of the catholic church, not in its entire self but still. Do we have to believe the others stuff that came after because it was from people directly emerging from those that were at Nicea ? We don't do that. As we are all heirs of this creed, even protestant, the fact that we have no scriptural issue with it is not, for me, an argument because we already believes it so reading those past men is not a problem as it align with us today. My point is not to reject everything, I am not against concile but do we realize that those men where clearly in a period of time where the true gospel where already mix with a lot of things and the hands of men where everywhere ? Everything said by church fathers etc. is not to be believed because they were closer to Jesus time. It is interesting to study but they could, as men of nowadays, be wrong. That's why we need the holy spirit to teach and confirm. The institution got established in those council and tranformed the body of christ in an institution is what bring us in where we our now. We lost many things. I wish we could take the creed with virgin eyes, without our cultural classical trinitarian heritage and asks the holy spirit to confirm or the opposit.

[@markridlen4380]

The 325 creed was good, but that was before the eternal begotten doctrine was introduced. I think it is a distraction from the earthly begetting of Jesus, and not really something you can establish within scripture.

[@JesusJunkie2023]

It's actually kind of creepy that we have divided the holy jealous God of the Old Testament into fractions without IMMEDIATE Apostolic succession OR framework🙄

[@mannurse7421]

@@UNCömmønSənsefinding the way is a matter of heart not correct theology

[@mannurse7421]

“truly, truly I say to you before Abraham was I am”

[@markridlen4380]

@@mannurse7421 show me the verse where it says Jesus was begotten of the father and where it says before all ages. I don't doubt the pre-existence of Jesus (John 1 makes it clear).

[@TheRemnantRadio]

@@markridlen4380 The eternal generation of the Son can seem complex, but Scripture strongly supports that Jesus is uncreated, eternal, and the creator of all things-yet still uniquely “born of God” in a way that does not imply He was ever made or had a beginning. John 1:1-3 declares that “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. All things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.” Here, the Word-Jesus-exists from the beginning, is fully divine, and is the agent of all creation. Colossians 1:16-17 also states, “For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth... all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.” These verses affirm that Jesus Himself is not created but is the source of all creation, upholding the cosmos with His divine power. Moreover, Revelation 1:8, where Jesus calls Himself the “Alpha and Omega,” reinforces His eternality, identifying Him as the One “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” This is echoed in Hebrews 1:10-12, which applies Psalm 102-a passage about the eternality of God-to Jesus, saying, “You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain.” This description firmly places Jesus as the unchanging, eternal Creator who exists outside of time. John 8:58 is another critical passage, where Jesus says, “Before Abraham was, I am.” By using the divine name “I Am” (the same name God used to reveal Himself to Moses in Exodus 3:14), Jesus claims eternal existence, independent of creation. Yet, while these verses affirm Jesus’s deity and uncreated nature, Scripture also describes Him as uniquely “born of God” or “begotten.” 1 John 5:18 refers to Jesus as “born of God,” while John 1:14 describes Him as “the only begotten of the Father.” Importantly, “begotten” here does not mean “created” or “brought into existence,” but speaks to a unique, eternal relationship between the Father and the Son. Philippians 2:6-7 illustrates this eternal relationship as well: although He is “in the form of God,” Jesus “did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant.” This “form of God” reveals His eternal nature, while His “begottenness” refers to His unique, eternal identity as the Son. Scripture also employs imagery that vividly conveys this truth. Describing Jesus as the Word (John 1:1), Wisdom (1 Corinthians 1:24), and Radiance of God’s glory (Hebrews 1:3), the Bible presents Christ as God’s eternal self-expression, wisdom, and glory. These images express that Jesus comes forth from God in a way that is eternally true, illustrating that He is distinct as Son yet fully one with the Father. This “eternally begotten” relationship supports the doctrine of eternal generation, affirming Jesus as truly and eternally God, while distinct in person. These metaphors are not incidental; they are central to understanding the way the Father and Son relate to one another in their divine unity and mutual indwelling. The doctrine of eternal generation holds that Jesus, though uncreated, eternally proceeds from the Father as His Son. John 5:26 captures this: “For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in Himself.” The Son’s life is derived from the Father, yet not in a temporal sense. As the “Radiance of God’s glory” (Hebrews 1:3) and the “exact imprint of His nature,” Jesus is fully and eternally God, of the same divine essence, yet distinct in person as the Son. This understanding harmonizes the biblical teaching that Jesus is both “born of God” and yet fully uncreated and eternal, revealing the unique, eternal love and unity within the Godhead. Historically, this doctrine has been upheld since the early church, even though some modern translations have rendered the Greek word monogenes as "only" or "unique" rather than “begotten.” However, scholars like Charles Lee Irons have shown that early Greek-speaking church fathers, closest to the language and cultural context, consistently understood monogenes as “only begotten.” This interpretation remained unchallenged until the late 19th century. Theologians like John Gill have argued that the eternal generation of the Son is not only a doctrinal point but essential for understanding the Trinity.

[@nurseld1]

AI said Luther said it was an important summary but was still Subordinate to the Bible.

[@dianeglover479]

That creed sounds fantastic!

[@davidwireback8621]

Josh you mentioned in the Creed that you read in your church. A modern version, which says the Holy Spirit proceeded from the father and Jesus. The orthodox and the Roman Catholic or the western church split because one believe that the Holy Spirit came from the father in the other believe that Jesus sent the Holy Spirit. Which I think is absolutely ridiculous to have such a split over. I just got into listening to your video here. Are you going to actually cross reference the creed where it is found in the Bible?

[@brendaevans1378]

It's just Satan's way of dividing the body of Christ we can't agree on anything! Jesus please help us all ✝️🙏🏽💯

[@lindaetherton5828]

So then are gentiles forbidden from worshipping like Jews ie. participation in the feasts and festivals?

[@kiraharris9246]

we are neither Jew nor Greek but, one in Messiah Yeshua

[@Dennis-d1p]

Jewish festivals for all humanity. Isaiah 66: 22,23 says in the New Earth e eryone will come to fellowship with God e very new moon and every sabbath day. ZACH 14:1,4 SAYS THE NATION that refuses to send its ambassadors to Isreal to keep the feast of tabernacles will RECIEVE NO RAIN.

[@SeanusAurelius]

One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone.

[@Dennis-d1p]

@SeanusAurelius taken in context, this taling,about the 7 feast days. Some favored some days of the feast more than others. It's not about the Sabbath Day versus Sunday. That's a lie. BE careful putting out verses written by man and not the Holy Spirit. And wven worse of all is agreed picking verses out of context, and ignoring every other verse about the same subject. That's an abomination. All Sunday churches do this because their seminarys teach pastors to do this , and that's passed down from the pulpit to the congregation. Even enforced in Sunday school quarterlys, which is an abomination . I can't believe the lies, deciet in every church on earth. When God says in Isaiah, you shall come and fellowship every sabbath day in the New Earth, and you shit all over that by taking a person's voice about one day over another day. The only thing at this point that might still give you a pass is your intent. Stick to Romans 2:14, which says even the gentiles will make it if they love others as themselves. Think about being cast into hell for posting what you just did without reading every verse on the subject first. You didn't do that. I used to be like you as a southern Baptist. Those preachers and seminarys are sending people to HELL. Something to think about.?

[@gardengirlmary]

I think the issue Eastern Orthodox have is Filioque. That the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father (not the Son). I dont really understand I believe EO still believe in Jesus Christ as the son of God Resurrection of Christ But John 17 is hard.... Jesus prays that His believers would be one. Lord have mercy on us

[@lindaetherton5828]

I like Rich Mullins version.

[@Sav912WL]

When Arius spoke, St. Nicholas (a basis for Santa Claus) threw hands on him and was out in jail.

[@danielfinnsson1985]

I love the channel and the content but im a bit sad that you left out the best part of the counsel, santa clause punching a heretic lol maybe do a video on it for xmas lol

[@lindag9975]

The Nicene Creed succinctly states the Gospel of Jesus.

[@angeloserena7175]

Bifore the bible there was the oral tradion given by the Fathers of the church, the catholic tradition and ortodox are based on this.

[@savemman]

You guys spent so much time comparing The Nicean Creed and the Council of Trent, instead of The Nicean Creed and the later Ecumencal Synods.

[@jonathanccast]

You can make up creeds all you like, but the Bible says: Isa 8:11-20 For the LORD spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying, 12 Say ye not, A confederacy, to all [them to] whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid. 13 Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and [let] him [be] your fear, and [let] him [be] your dread. ... 16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. ... 19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? 20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them. The Bible says if you embrace creeds and teach according to them there is no light in you. God is perfectly able to lead His Church, but not when she rebels and chooses to go her own way!

[@SeanusAurelius]

Nonsense, the point is that creeds should reflect and summarise scripture accurately. The main thrust of that passage was to prevent Judah overly fearing a worldly invader despite God's assurance.

[@RuminativeEmbryologist]

We Charismatics must understand the Niacene creed and Apostolic Creed. Due to failure of understanding these Creeds the heretics like Only Jesus and Trinity deniers aka Oneness Pentecostals come into place. These Creeds are very based according to Scripture.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

So true!

[@heddenmike]

Thanks, guys. I didn't know that Constantine's vision was BEFORE he became emperor. That really re-frames how I look at him. It makes him look more George-Washington like than someone with all the power adding Jesus to keep people under his power.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

He definitely got his hands dirty. He was not a perfect man; however, I have a hard time believing he paganized the church and made peace with the Christians solely to secure his own political power, especially when they were less than 15% of his empire...

[@christianhernandez3044]

People have a lot of myths about what happened at the council. Some say the Bible was made there.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

The first time that idea was ever published was in a book called The Da Vinci Code.

[@ericedwards5034]

So...Trent was just a synod while Nicaea is a "proper council"? It just seems to me to be word games being played to dismiss a council decision you don't agree with and uphold one you do.🤷🏾‍♂

[@TheRemnantRadio]

No miller was asking questions. Tent was a roman catholic council. But it was not an eccumincial council. that is a huge difference.

[@RevelationTestament]

The Nicean Creed cannot be "easily defended." Nor is every line of the Nicean Creed a direct lift from scripture. Nowhere do the scriptures teach God is a homoousios. In fact a council 50 years earlier excommunicated a bishop for claiming the Father and Son are homoousios. Further, according to the creed the Son is not the Father and the Father is not the Son. Also, God cannot change. Lastly, the doctrine of the Trinity claims the Son is "eternally begotten." This sets up a direct conflict with scripture which says that the Son was begotten when the Father told Him "thou art my Son. This day I have begotten thee." See Acts and Hebrews. In fact this is part of the oracles of God, which you totally do not discuss.... Further, scripture clearly says that the Son is the only inheritor of the government of the Father, which He says He will not give to another... but the doctrine of the Trinity says God cannot change, and therefore the Son cannot inherit. Nor can the Son inherit his title of the Eternal Father per Isa 9:6 because the doctrine of the Trinity says He will be the Son forevermore....

[@andrewsafarik5060]

Conservative Lutheran Churches ie LCMS, accept the APOSTLES, NICEAN, AND ATHENIAN CREEDS.

[@jwebb]

This details exactly why the reformation was nothing more than controlled opposition for the catholic church. There was no return to the apostolic ways, rather a reaffirming of the false doctrine of the trinity.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

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[@BrendaBoykin-qz5dj]

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[@hughtrail143]

Today there are those that say your not Christian if you vote Democrat!

[@Cookies-i2f]

I don't know how a Christian could vote Democratic. 🇨🇦

[@MBuck-iw7qn]

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[@MrJayb76]

Wow this is the epitome of cherry picking. Yeah councils and creeds are cool but to a point... basically you're saying the Holy Spirit only worked through councils half the time.

[@hesicast]

I know a guy who interpreted the Bible his way in some ways he was correct and others incorrect. He named the church after himself called the Lutheran Church. Then another guy called Calvin named another church after himself called the calvinist Church. When we interpret the Bible by ourselves we become humanists. This was forewarned in the great schism that the Roman Church called the Frankish Church by the East back then would cause humanism. One person interpreting and being of authority is a danger to all. Most call themselves theologians because they go to university and study the Bible, the church fathers were were called theologians because God spoke through them. The apostles use the Holy spirit their Apostles use the Holy Spirit and then there was a congruence through councils. The first Council wasn't really nicaea it was the Council of Jerusalem.

[@stephengray1344]

Neither Luther nor Calvin named their churches after themselves. The names Lutheran and Calvinist were labels given to them by people outside the churches they led.

[@SeanusAurelius]

@@stephengray1344 And against their wishes. Luther liked "Evangelical catholic".

[@gitfiddler716]

A creed is basically a doctrinal statement. Catholic with a lower case "c" just means universal.

[@mikeb4938]

“No creed but the Bible” is a creed.

[@PastorChris87]

Historically no creed but the Bible lasts about 5 minutes before we started our own creeds, we just call them a statement of faith now.

[@danielgeoffrion9655]

You can't call yourself a "protestant" if you're not currently protesting the Roman Papacy as the biblical man of sin. The little horn of Daniel's prophesy.

[@TheRemnantRadio]

You may be interested in this episode with Gavin Ortlund: kzbin.infoinIIadwXAUk