The REAL Reason Evinrude Outboards Stopped Production

Evinrude has been around since 1907, founded in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Mercury Marine, its closest competitor, is located not far from Milwaukee in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. Evinrude started losing ground to Mercury and also Yamaha by falling behind in the power race. It also kept its two-stroke engines that required owners to mix oil with gasoline. The rest of the industry dropped that type of engine years ago.
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[@MrJRR1414]

BRP screwed up bad. The G2 was just starting to take hold with the introduction of the smaller G2's. Evinrude is a great motor, and not the problem, BRP is the problem.

[@petersouthernboy6327]

Evinrude lost out on the only real GROWTH market in outboards: coastal marine BIG horsepower outboards. Evinrude had 11% of the outboard market.

[@machew2009]

Brp 100% the problem they didn't push evinrude as in very little advertisement I bet if they would just take and sponsor youtubers with there outboard they would really start to gain back the market 2 stroke with there motors is still they way to go but no one knows that because there is no advertisement on you tube or social media as far as evinrude

[@petersouthernboy6327]

machew2009 - Why Evinrude Failed: An autopsy of NMMA statistics: high HP (>200hp) outboard sales +80% since 2008. Outboards >300hp sales +18% from 2018 to 2019 alone. This is the only double digit growth segment of the outboard motor market for the past 20 years and Evinrude never got more than 11 percent of the market share. In the US, large pontoons and center consoles average HP increased 40% since 2008. In the coastal marine markets the BIG outboard CC completely took over the inboard market. Think BIG twins, triples, and quads. 2 strokes were favored in developing Countries like China and Brazil. 4 strokes were favored in developed Countries like Austr, New Zealand, the EU, Canada, and the US. In 2018, Mercury Marine contributed $2.61 Billion in revenues to Brunswick and was their biggest earner by far.

[@jerrychase4177]

Imagine an Evinrude 300 HP V6 Direct Injected powerhead in a Sea-Doo.

[@Helloverlord]

@@jerrychase4177 BRP owns an Austrian motor company Rotax, capable of producing literary anything - even more, after Rotax made some really advanced and powerful six-cyl engines they had to scrap it under certain agreement as US regulators wouldnt approve it.

[@carlosdelaarena2575]

This video should be titled: My opinion on why Evinrude outboards stopped production.

[@danbraun8430]

No shit

[@philldownes8685]

yep. its an arseholes view.... should be called my boring voice and opinion on something i know nothing about.

[@jeffreybarkley8735]

Or maybe...the videos I make after smoking a big fat blunt...but that's just my speculation.

[@melrose9252]

@@philldownes8685 < The truth hurt your little feelings? Evinrude is toast!

[@bobdinkle3010]

@@melrose9252 you’re a boob! They were beasts. They will be back

[@alamos8]

Without entering in the discussion about technology or quality or reliability, it is always sad when a brand that has been there for so long expires.

[@cornfilledscreamer614]

Except this "Evinrude" hasn't been around but for 20 years...

[@brodychojnacki2249]

@@cornfilledscreamer614 lmao your dumb I own a 1967 evinrude and it still runs

[@cornfilledscreamer614]

@@brodychojnacki2249 Okay - I reckon I'm going to have to explain this to you. Bombardier & Genmar Holdings bought out OMC in 2001. THIS is what I meant about Evinrudes not being Evinrudes anymore. Secondly, if you're going to call somebody dumb, you might want to say "YOU'RE dumb" as opposed to "YOUR dumb". Feel free to use caps and use proper punctuation in your statements as well - unless you're really as dumb and uneducated as it would appear. Hope this helps.

[@shimshonbendan8730]

@@brodychojnacki2249 Holy Homonyms Batman, the man doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're". This is why the English language is going to hell. People don't know the difference between your/you're, there/their/they're, brake/break, to/too, lose/loose to name a few. Seriously, if you have a '67 Evinrude, then you should be old enough to learn how to spell.

[@joshuarodriguez5988]

@@cornfilledscreamer614 damn someone got booty hurt they got proven wrong about their original statement.

[@joeversus2893]

Nothing beats the true power and torque of a 2 Stroke Evinrude.

[@MrNuthed]

Nothing except the ease and simplicity of use of a good 4 stroke.

[@jhomrich89]

When it's not in the shop...

[@Scuba_Bro]

I don't know man, 4-strokes have always treated me better lol

[@andrewn.5117]

A 2 stroke Yamaha. You know it’s gonna get you home

[@millsoutdoors8555]

Ain’t that the truth. Also very reliable

[@PeteS528]

"The real reason..." Proceeds to give opinion.

[@rickster8588]

“LOL”

[@southernyankee2167]

Welcome to 97% of KZbin!

[@treyjohnson7233]

“ The real reason “ 😂

[@Kazz83]

🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@wirefeed3419]

Unbelievable, not a single fact to base the video on. Clearly there is lack of knowledge that BRP is Bombardier a company so big and so diversified in the recreational word and Jet building that if they wanted to be king in the outboard motor world they could. If BRP have discontinued Evenrude it is because they wanted to not had too, certainly not because of Covid or any other had to reason.

[@camyota]

There's nothing that brings back childhood fishing/ boating memories quite like the smell of a 2 stroke outboard exhaust

[@letsgobrandonfjb3631]

Exactly

[@Build0001]

Everyone always told me my OMC Cobra was trash. I had it for 16 years before a reseal was done. I did the bellows and shift cable myself since no one around here worked on them anymore. It ran great when I sold the boat and now I was forced to buy a Mercury product because they rule the roost around here and it’s been great too. I bet the 80s and 90s was a great time to be in the boating business. RIP OMC still and RIP Evinrude.

[@phishtacosfishingandstuff2677]

Back in the day they were all bullet proof. Except Force and even they could be easily repaired and maintained. Now you can't get parts for them. In time the same will be true for Evinrude

[@riverakers]

I loved the integrated power steering on the g2 also the fly by wire controls and the trolling speed extremely low fuel consumption.No break in,no maint for 500 hours, no oil changes after 100 hrs, self winterization.What a waist.I was planning on trading in my 2017 Yamaha F115 four stroke for the Evinrude 115 G2 better hole shot,higher top end speed and better fuel consumption.You could also customize your outboard colors to match your boat.

[@joshtavenner3073]

The power steering is trash. Mine is in the shop for the 3rd time trying to get it sorted. Sure, the integrated setup looks nice and keeps rigging clean, but that doesn’t do much when it’s not working correctly early.

[@mathewhastings9485]

Don’t you mean 150, but I’d like to see how a motor with less horsepower can go faster than a 150.

[@riverakers]

@@mathewhastings9485 Yes I meant F115 thank you for pointing out my mistake

[@johnbumpus7138]

@@joshtavenner3073 around 600 hours on mine and not a single problem Perhaps yours were not rigged properly

[@brodychojnacki2249]

I miss the 2 strokes so much less problems in the long run

[@Nickerian91]

2 strokes are amazing for their reliability and simple construction it simply cant go wrong and light weight. However 4stroke is better in every other way you get more power at low revs (less gas consumption) , quieter and does not spit out oil into the water. The oil is the reason why 2 strokes are banned in most places (and assuming the guy in the video was right about sticking with the 2 stroke path they were simply not able to sell their engines in most 1st world countries anymore)

[@videomaker8207]

Four strokes use more fuel but their gasses are less pollutive

[@caseyperrell3198]

@@videomaker8207 idk what four strokes you’ve ran but they are much more gas efficient than any 2 stroke I have ever owned

[@videomaker8207]

@@caseyperrell3198 then you have obviously never heard of what a 2 stroke is

[@videomaker8207]

@@caseyperrell3198 the only thing four strokes are better for is they’re more convenient so just pour petrol in away we go and they’re not as pollutive

[@johnskelton8785]

I grew up with Evinrude ouboards from a 1958 sea horse 10 still runs , a 1975 6 horse still runs and i learned to ski behind a 1972 65horse 3 cylinder I now own a 2001 115ram on a 1983 cvx never had a problem with it at 275 hours was looking forword to repowering with a etec when I heard of the closure , trully a sad day on the water , rest in piece Ole'

[@melrose9252]

John Skelton < It should be “rest in peace” but not much can be expected from someone wanting an Etec.

[@Z06ified]

I think the biggest problem had nothing to do with the engines, but the dealer network. After the OMC bankruptcy, many Evinrude dealers either went out of business or switched to another brand. Most dealers weren’t going to wait around to see what BRP was going to do with the brand in a few years. By the time BRP basically restarted the Evinrude brand with new models, the Evinrude dealer network was a mere fraction of what it was during the OMC years. There are multiple times more Mercury and Yamaha dealers than BRP Evinrude dealers. No matter how good your motor is, you can’t compete without a solid dealer network from which to sell them. Alliances with boat manufacturers is very important to, but again, that is closely tied to the dealer network. I own both a 2015 Evinrude 175 E-Tec, and a 2016 Mercury 150 4-stroke on two different, but similar boats. Both engines are fantastic and super competitive with each other. They each have their own unique pros and cons, and it’s tough to choose which I like better. I’ve always been a 2-stroke fan, so my heart is with the Evinrude, so sad to see that technology die so suddenly. RIP Evinrude - it will always be the first outboard in the world, and all outboard in the future will owe its existence to that fact. Thanks Ole for the great invention!

[@joenewmeyer8358]

The E-TEC will last a lot longer than the MERC will !

[@stevenfileccia2694]

Thanks for your opinion on why they closed. Your title says the REAL reason. Sounds more like your view, and not fact based......just my opinion.😃

[@mikeschepper6485]

I don't work in the boat in boating industry, but i did stay at a holiday inn last night.

[@mikeingeorgia1]

“Using COVID-19 as an excuse for poor business decisions” * laughing in US Postal Service

[@simonsaw]

Yet another outstanding and amazing video. Thanks!

[@dougholdem2898]

Brief and to the point! Well done!

[@whiskeygordon2452]

I just love a 2 stroke, you will never change my mind on this. Less equipment to fail.

[@kayldomaj6493]

This is why Evinrude failed: Less equipment to fail, still failing more than any japanese engine

[@melrose9252]

Whisky Gordon < Evinrude’s are good in the minds of their blind followers.

[@derrondudley8801]

I like the 2 stroke over 4 stroke,because it takes double the cc's of a 4 stroke to equal that of a 2 stroke(almost double). And pollution wise, 2 stroke outboards are what, 1/50 of 1% of the problem. If completely eradicated you wouldn't notice a difference. Going after the big 3 or Industry is what can make a difference, but the politicians are to busy lining their pockets with their (big3 & industry)money.

[@johnbumpus7138]

@@kayldomaj6493 I have a 1968 Evinrude fast twin that still runs like a champ how many of these Yamaha And Suzuki 4stroke’s Will still be running in 50 years?

[@kayldomaj6493]

@@johnbumpus7138 All of them ?

[@tonyaspeers7604]

We’ve had an Evinrude 150 motor for 25 years and it’s still going stromg

[@shingnosis]

I'm a professional commercial boat operator, we run lots of different boats in very tough conditions almost all year round and with passengers and transport goods etc. In the industry I talk with all my colleges and hear what they run and what it costs and if it's reliable or not etc. If someone has a new motor, or if someone's motor has broken down, this is something which spreads very, very fast. Everyone in my industry is interested and likes to keep to date with what works and what doesn't. Here's what I can tell you: Latest year model of Mercury V8, Yamaha V6 and Suzuki V6 are all reliable. Any motor can break but those three are about as reliable as it gets, hard to wrong with any of those. However the Evinrude G2 V6 was simply not up to commercial standards, lots of issues with fuel injection and spark plugs and electronics and the Evinrude mechanics couldn't figure them out either. Maybe for leisure use the G2 is great, but for commercial use and +500h a year in tough and varied conditions it didn't cut it. Maybe 2-stroke looked great on paper but for commercial use there were lots of issues and the dealer network couldn't step up either. The absolutely most reliable motor on the market? Probably the Honda V6 225 and 250 motors, they're not the newest, sexiest or lightest or fastest but they are real workhorses for piling on lots and lots of hours.

[@noncched6839]

We had a ferry boat at the last company I worked for. It was 28'x9' aluminum barge with ann03' 225 Yamaha Saltwater Series. When they decided to take the engine off and make it an inboard deisel it had 5600 hours on it. Still running fine.

[@bub99554]

Honda lol 😆🤣 I recently watch one threw a rod my location Suzuki and Yamaha run these waters. Mercury is up there running like a top also.

[@matbob7249]

Honda definitely for longevity and reliability. Mercury for performance,450r is a beast. I finally reached a point in my life where I can chose performance over reliability. We are spoiled with a choices we have

[@Ceegar111]

This sounds like great advice from some who live it every day.

[@shingnosis]

@@Ceegar111 This years gossip: People who bought the new Suzuki 325 and 350 are having second thoughts and a few issues, they also think the engine is pretty loud. Guess that's what happens with new products. It took Suzuki about 5 years to sort their 300 V6 when it first launched, many blows gearcases was one thing I remember. For commercial use stick with the tried and true Suzuki 250-300 AP probably, those have been on the market and are very well sorted by now. Good engines. The dual prop on the new big Suzuki is nice if you need to the grip and it's good for lifting the stern on heavy boats. But the engine isn't a slam dunk yet. Also beware that running aground and hitting debris is now more expensive... so yeah. Pros and cons and a few issues. A few people I know have also managed to blow their new Mercury V8's, but I also know a few of those people drive like idiots. So no judgment is passed on the engine in this case. 99% of people I know are very happy with their mercury V8's. One thing I can say however is that unless you like loud engines don't go for the ProXS models, I think most people will prefer something quieter in the long run. That loud start-up is fun about five times then you want quiet at low speed.

[@jbuckets3927]

Wow thank you for this GreaT vid Los!

[@AgentSmith911]

The end of an era. No more 2-strokes. So sad! 😖

[@chronicawareness9986]

my 15 hp 2 stroke 1978 evinrude is a champ.. will last for ever

[@gregorytimmons4777]

Glad to hear it since i just put money down on a sail boat with a 15hp 2 stroke on a transom bracket.

[@chronicawareness9986]

@@gregorytimmons4777 mines going strong still, great year

[@phonebackup8132]

Mine is a 58 35hp. I'll run it agenst any 50 hp 4 stroke modern engine and smoke it's you know what. I got it in 79 or 80 and it was old then, took it apart ported it and put a bigger carb from a fat 50 seahorse popped the reeds with a set of Deves rings and to this day she runs like a Banshee. 63 years old and not once have I had to replace a single valve spring! I will never get a 4 stroke outboard.

[@chronicawareness9986]

@@phonebackup8132 you should make videos of those id love to see them

[@percussion44]

Oh yeah? Well my first car was a '87 Chevrolet Berretta that was poorly made GM rubbish.

[@tpainter81]

I currently own 1982 25 hp and 150 hp. In the past ive had two 15 hp and a 30hp. Loved them all.

[@keithbachand2251]

I feel that evinrude just felt behind as you mentioned and felt that the other players are dominating the market. To be honest I loved evinrude and I’m a big two stroke fan and was excited to see how tech can be integrated even more to provide an even better two stroke outboard. I always said IF they would take on a sales rep with no experience in outboard sales I’d sell so many I could buy the company only because of my passion for their product. The market for them was with bigger outboards it seemed but there’s no reason to let go of the gas for selling smaller outboards I mean when you search evinrude outboards the light twin and other small ones are always popping up! I hope they come back one day!

[@EV1NRUDE]

I hope too, but I doubt they will.

[@melrose9252]

They are RIP.

[@Evvzt]

Agree totally , they simply missed having a boat manufactures team up with them especially off shore racing , race on Sunday sell on Monday , in hoping to score a G2 , race it in the 200 class , last of the 2 strokes , if they made the same engines just less of the hyper green stuff kept the g2 , make a 4 stroke v8 or simply bring back the v8 2 stroke , g 2 - evolve the components to be un apologetically 2 stroke yet at its best to be clean and sober . Not everyone wants a 4 stroke , motor cross done the same now they are screaming for 2 strokes again . They just sound different and have a different power style that people still love .

[@dang5553]

Mercury got help from Yamaha for years in technology. Remember Mercury is not Mercury it’s owned by Brunswick more money to spend FICHT led OMC down a dirty path to meeting two strange people.

[@foxwood67]

I have a 1999 E90FPLEEC ( fict) with over 1000 hours on it. Proper maintenance every season. Very reliable still . I agree though with what you said about company’s reluctance to change.

[@russelldieterle8846]

I have a e tec 50 great motor no issues. hope someone purchases the company

[@garrysmith5645]

I've got a G2 200 & a 30 hp E-tec ; love them both . Hit the key , they're running even after 6 months of winter AND amazing fuel economy !

[@davidodonovan1699]

Thanks for your input.

[@dave-cd7jd]

evinrude will come back with an all electric outboard... im calling it now

[@buddywhatshisname522]

I hope you’re right... throughout my childhood, the Johnson/Evinrude brand were the workhorses of the remote west coast of British Columbia. If you were needing to be out on the water for work , you had an Evinrude hanging off the transom. Mercurys were euphemistically called anchors while the Japanese brands were novelties that you couldn’t get parts for. Too this day, if you sink a four stroke through some mishap, good luck not having to replace everything but the cowl. Electric will be the future and I truly hope BRP come back with an indestructible electric that again beats the crowd for reliability and price.

[@buddywhatshisname522]

@Question Mark kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWbClXemftBkqtU

[@kevinsellsit5584]

Finally, 10 pages of reading arguments before the first mention of electric marine technology. I own a light electric vehicle company, and honestly don't agree with Buddy's statement "electric will be the future" (of marine) unless you add the word "distant" in there. Nevertheless, making the power required for the marine industry is easy with an electric motor(s), it's getting people to be realistic with their energy storage needs and the concept of charging at locations along the way that is challenging. Torque and speed, with reliability the marine industry has never seen is just a water-cooled brushless motor away. Charging infrastructure that is marine friendly will take a while. The day we can all buy a 73 foot nuclear powered center console with 6 electric outboards is my idea of the "electric future of marine power". P.S. Nuclear power unit is sealed and has no user serviceable parts inside. No DIY please.

[@Pfanny_John]

This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about 😂

[@rdeanbenson217]

2 true

[@rdeanbenson217]

Evenrude/Johnson live on under the Bombardier bannor.

[@brennenfitzgerald]

Facts

[@Helloverlord]

@@rdeanbenson217 Yeah, but BRP is the horror factor in all this.

[@Pfanny_John]

Clint Morgan no, they’re actually great. We used to repower with a 150 every other year and have NEVER had an issue. The g1 250s do have issues sometimes but that’s only if they aren’t run right

[@kylec166]

2 stroke are still the best in my book Ollie Evinrude would be sad that the 2 stroke died out. Love Evinrude and Johnson outboards. Own both older models were awesome. Still own a 1969 Johnson 25 runs awesome.

[@travelguy1564]

My 1984 140hp 2 stroke Rude is a screamer! Just look at You tube vids of older OMC v-4's - they kick butt, and easy to work on too!

[@herrbananhjarnasmith7598]

The V6 VINDICATER of 225hp was a beast or the INTRUDER, I have in mind that they made a 250hp version of these too but I maybe remember wrong?? And then we had the mighty V8´s they were heavy and four carburetors wanted gas BUT WHAT A BEAUTY that BLACK JOHNSON OH SORRY EVINRUDE. I actually had the pleasure of owning one BLACK JOHNSON 300 4 LITRE V8 1996 the last year only on export, modell but it was to heavy for my boat BUT WHAT AN ACCELERATION!!!

[@ericsandrin8123]

i have a 66 johnson 20 hp...its runs like new...it can troll as well as my 6 hp ...also a johnson...ive always had johnson...and will keep looking for newer ones...

[@joeyk9578]

When I was a kid, my mother took me to the Disney movie The Rescuers. A mouse couple hopped on a leaf, using it as a motor boat to get around the bayou. The leaf was powered by a dragonfly named Evinrude. My mom laughed at this and when I asked why, she said Evinrude was a well known brand of outboard motors. Saddening to learn about this.

[@RuggedSportsmen]

I always call my Evinrude outboard EEEVINRUUUUUUUDDEE! Like the old mouse use to call it

[@C9H0S]

My time favourite cartoon. 🙂👍🏾

[@oneg1970]

Thanks buddy for your way of thinking. I get so frustrated with how other people carry on and on instead of getting to the meat of the video.

[@mikesampson5567]

Love my joshon gt 100 2 stroke. Had it since 1988 bean in shop 1 time since then I forgot to run gas out of carbarators. Rebuild the carbs runs great. Still running great in the year 2020. Best motor ever 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@melrose9252]

A new one wouldn’t do this.

[@gohogs2277]

It’s got another 60 years no problem

[@cooper_hags3911]

ETec is an unreal injection system, it continues to be THEE best in snow sports with skidoo's line of two stroke sled engines above all competition. in the marine sense, I've always ran mercury.. but my grandfather continues to be a believer in Evinrude, and I personally love them also. as long as you keep up the preventative maintenance those engines are flawless. to me this is a strict opinion video.

[@schalz9209]

Currently working as an marine technician at a evinrude and mercury dealership. I love evinrude g2s and g1s they are my little babies in the shop Xd

[@zacpearson1878]

The g2 was the best bass boat motor you could get on the newer fiberglass stuff. Yamaha is fantastic but the gear shifts you can hear across the Atlantic.

[@matthewharms7869]

OMC needs a rebirth in ultra reliable, simple to fix, and low cost parts outboard motors. And keep the price point down on the motors. Having to finance motors for 10-15yrs is insane. Especially with the repowering being more popular. Been running 97’ Johnson ocean runner 150 since 1999

[@kenb.8596]

Makes me sick to see this company go out of business, was following their product for awhile weak!!

[@user-ui2cy1lb2w]

i am a evinrude tech and the downfall of the evinrude was the g2 dps system and the warranty claims.

[@muth1997]

thx for making a succinct vid on the issue, i'm subscribed now

[@netsonny]

To each his own. The precursor to the e-tec had it's problems. The later model e-tec outboards learned from these problems and made necessary corrections. I have owned Evinrude for years, from the early smokers to the new EU accepted e-tech and have not had any problems. Wish things had not transpired as they have.

[@kencleg7721]

True only evenrude on the lakes around Northern California still a great motor I still run My tlra 60 2 cly

[@robboss1839]

The death of the 2 stroke in the marine industry is like losing H patterns in the car industry. The future is dope but I’ma miss the old school cool factor

[@peterchilds1411]

Very sad, 113 year old company disappears because of some poor senior management decisions. There is a space for 2stroke engines but it will become a niche, perhaps there is a future for the brand outside of BRP..

[@melrose9252]

Peter Childs = Outdated and complex.

[@cornfilledscreamer614]

OMC (Johnson & Evinrude) died in 2000.Bombardier bought them out when they failed.

[@markjasch9137]

Any body know if there will be away purchase left over inventory? just want a 40hp 2 stroke for a pontoon

[@gerardhaubert8210]

One of the Evinrude killers was the contracts that Mercury had with too many boat makers. It was possible but Not Easy to get a G2 on Lund

[@sdvten]

Mercury and Lund are owned by Brunswick. Brunswick owns many boat brands/companies and only want to put black anchors on those brands.

[@lush429]

Whalers as well... never could put an Evinrude on a whaler... Mercury has it!!

[@melrose9252]

@@sdvten = Got your little feelings hurt? Mercury is still in production and the I need a tow Evinrude’s are shut down again!

[@sdvten]

@@melrose9252 Sorry you are too much of an ignorant fanboy to understand fact. I'm sure the Merc on your daddy's bass tracker is awesome.

[@bradcoddington1679]

Gerard Haubert Evinrude/Johnson had their own boat brands that OMC started doing way back in the 70's and maybe even earlier. What killed Evinrude was BRP and BRP only and their lack of advertisement and pushing the brand is what killed Evinrude

[@edwardmurphy2589]

As he said, this is all speculation. Guy really doesn't know what he's talking about.

[@paulrudwick2623]

Hole shot , up to 28% better fuel economy than any other engine, the cleanest burning engine on the planet , 500hr without a service , no run in period, automatic trim, and power steering inside the motor, cleanest hose set up.5 year corrosion and engine waranty, awarded by NASA for the use of NASA developed aluminium. BRP (the largest marine and snow engine manufacturer)never went broke - they bought Evinrude and threw out the old Evinrude technology then built the best motor they could from the ground up- it was savaging every other engine maker's sales so Mercury made a huge offer for BRP to get out , which BRP did because they are going full electric

[@kenlee-97]

Like a work of art!

[@kenlee-97]

@@paulrudwick2623 so you're saying Merc paid BRP a huge sum to buy out the remaining shares of BRP, BRP said yes as they are looking to go full electricity.

[@paulrudwick2623]

@@kenlee-97 Thats what Ive been told by two Evinrude dealers

[@percussion44]

@@paulrudwick2623 Meanwhile at the legion of DOOM....

[@georgehuerta1990]

That’s sad such a big name in the boating world used to own one it was an old motor but it was a good solid motor ran fine

[@kalsaumesatungiamata9066]

I thought the G2 was beating the 4 strokes on all fronts except for the noise. I think their G2 engine was really that good but BRP business plan sucked.

[@herrbananhjarnasmith7598]

What´s wrong with real accelerating noise?????

[@melrose9252]

4 strokes are better and BRP saw the handwriting on the wall. Great business plan.

[@SkiRacingOz]

@@melrose9252 what makes them better?

[@Edmond9803]

@@melrose9252 how are they better? News flash, they’re not

[@kevincrawford7439]

@@SkiRacingOz quieter, more efficient, DTS,…

[@drumminsonlive9199]

Isn’t this the second time Evinrude has stopped production?

[@bryanmurphy178]

The local marine shop had a few of the G2's, they just sat there for years, for some reason they had a bad rep whether they deserved them or not

[@keithscott9774]

Not knowing anything about outboard brands I bought a boat with a G1 90hp 2008 Etec. I'm quite nerdy when it comes to anything mechanical so I really got to know this engine. Seems I've spent more time learning about how to look after it and prevent Etec death syndrome than I have actually fishing. I think the design of the Etec is great, but emissions control overtook reliability. In 2008 they stopped injecting a small amount of oil into the fuel. Apparently after that the failure rate of the high pressure pump and the injectors increased quite a lot. I religiously add a small amount of 2-stroke oil to the fuel as well as Stabil fuel stabiliser and Carbon Guard. This mixture, known as "Ollys Brew" on the Etec forum, gives lubrication and corrosion protection to fuel pump and injectors, prevents carbon build-up that can snap piston rings and damage the cylinders, and helps prevent any fuel degradation. You have to really ensure you never get wet or bad fuel to the engine as this can cause corrosion/damage to the HP fuel pump and injectors. And if the injectors don't deliver enough fuel the engine runs lean and that kills them. A typical 4-stroke injector is just like a valve, whereas an Etec injector is massive because it's actually an electrical pump. They seem very susceptible to damage from corrosion caused by water in the fuel. The coil in one of my injectors started going open circuit before I'd even used the engine. Found this out when pulling half the engine apart straight after I'd bought it. Completely cut open the injector to see what was on the inside (nerd syndrome) and where the wire break had happened. Could not believe it when I found the break to be in the potted compound joint in the steel body, where the external wire connected to the fine internal wire. There's a story on the Etec forum that 2008 injectors had some guy on the production line lifting the injectors by the external wires. No idea if that's true but 2008 injectors have this reputation and I'm unaware of any recall and free swap for faulty manufacturing. I still have one original injector left and often wonder when that connection will fail. After purchase I completely disassembled the VST (Vapour Separator Tank). It was actually in pristine condition, no gunk or corrosion anywhere, just like the internals of all injectors. However, what I did find was localised galvanic corrosion and deep pitting on one of the VST stainless bulkhead fittings, where it screwed onto the stainless water coil. This pitting was right up to the o-ring joint that seals the seawater from the fuel. If the pitting had advanced further and the o-ring had not sealed, seawater would have mixed with the fuel, potentially causing corrosion in the HP fuel pump and ALL injectors, and possibly piston rings and cylinders. Wow, what an expensive parts bill that would have been. You can't buy replacement parts for the VST, so you have to buy a complete new VST / fuel pump assembly, which would have been $1200 here in Australia. The local dealer was not prepared to sell me a fitting from an old/knackered VST, and tried to BS me, telling me how the old VSTs are all "rusted out". I have a lathe and the knew how to reverse engineer this fitting so I ended up making my own. Cost me $90 for a very special thread tap to cut the internal thread. The EMM has a reputation for failure, which can be caused by all sorts of things. Seems to me the EMM was not designed with enough electronic protection at all. When we think about it, how often do car computers fail. Of the millions and millions of cars, both old and new, I've only heard an odd story of computer failure through my entire life, yet a marine outboard where reliability is of great safety importance, gets a reputation of EMMs failing for no reason while out on the water. The Etec forum is a great source of knowledge for these engines and without it I would not have know how to protect this "fragile" engine. I'm hoping my Etec will be one of those stories where they last for many years and hours, as I've put a great deal of time and effort into pulling half of it apart for the sake of it, and understanding it's weaknesses, but most people are not like that and just want to get out in their boat.

[@gatewaymofreight]

I bought a Evinrude 115 G2 ho tiller for one of my Alumacraft 2072 all weld. runs fast, weight 730 pounds. Had Evinrude's all my life. Grandpa bought his first in 1916, my dad in the 40's bought them. used the hell out of these engines everyday. commercial fishing. never failed that i remember. only problems were operator error. nocking lowers out on wing dams or stumps. i lost a stator on one, carb rebuilds. 2020 the last of Evinrude, my last engine before i am off the water. Nothing like the smell of that two stroke on a cold October morning of the past. lots of memories of good days. The duck hunting before it became a yuppy sport with guys sky busting at ducks thinking they have a German 88 mm flak gun. People now days just aren't friendly on the river, they just seem rude from what people used to be. Sitting there fishing and watching these bass guys about run over people. I guess i can look at Evinrude as a motor that represented a different time and era, just not fitting in with the "lost" people that are out there now.

[@officialWWM]

I love the E Tec 😫

[@ScarabChris]

Finally an agreement with why. I am a life long boater and Evinrude guy. Owned dozes on J/E engines over the years but in the last 15 years I am running only twin 250 E-Tec Gen 1 engines. Got my first pair on my Scarab Sport in 2005 which were demos (100 hours) from the local dealer so they were built in 2004 so they were among the first big block E-Tecs. In 2011 I sold that boat with 2500 hours on the engines and they ran like new. Then in May 2011 I bought my current boat which is a tank of a center console (1990's standards), Marlin 350 SF and it came with twin 2007 E-Tec 250's again only 130 hours. I now have 1500+ on the engines and they are going strong pushing this 11,000 pound tub. So...as a life long boater, outboard guy....my instant reaction to BRP shutting down the Evinrude production was two reason in this order......1) Never passed the 300 HP mark when these big CC's were demanding 400 and 450 HP engines. 2) The horrible look of the G2. Believe it or not lots of boaters will pass on the better performing engine to go with the one looks better. Those two things. Take it from me...an Evinrude guy. I was ready to repower my boat with new E-Tecs but I was waiting for the 350. Then when that G2 came out I was sure I would run my old G1's till death. LOL. I am not sure about the 2 stroke thing. Lots of old salt boaters like myself like 2 strokes. But if the only company making them stops at 300 HP when so many people need 400+ HP the result is predictable.

[@ScarabChris]

This is actually me heading out of Ft Lauderdale. The performance and look of these 2007 engines worked perfect with that old 1996 hull. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGmye6x4ndOaiNE

[@petersouthernboy6327]

Evinrude lost out on the only real GROWTH market in outboards: coastal marine BIG horsepower outboards. Evinrude had 11% of the outboard market.

[@janvandenbos7085]

Another good brand lost.....

[@melrose9252]

@@janvandenbos7085 < Not really!

[@gailmrutland6508]

*The TRUTH always rings true. You Nailed It! Good job.*

[@101starting]

I'm 55 and back in the day it was the best trolling motor and most reliable after in the 90s was my last new bought engine not sure but think it was a 4 stroke very sad to see great video from Canada

[@rwhunt99]

You must remember Bankruptcy is a tool, it can shed debt and responsibility to investors and employees.

[@JamesJones-xh4hp]

I know it's just a shell, but man do their covers look great. Sad to see them go

[@darrylpaterick3108]

I thought the "covers" were/are butt ugly.

[@PayNoTaxes0GetNoVote]

I agree James. I didn't care for them at first but they really grew on me, especially because I'm a "color matchy" person. My boat is white with royal blue and silver flake stripes and I was getting ready to repower with a matchy ETEC but that ship has sailed. Now considering a white Suzuki with custom decals. Who knows.

[@Beautifultruthofficial]

very sad. I have owned Evinrude motors since 1987. I own one now. They are simple and solid.

[@survivalistboards]

My Evinrude 30 is around 25 years old and still going strong. There are three brand names that stand out - Mercury, Evinrude and Johnson.

[@micksmith3434]

Ive got mates with etecs and they swear by them??? Never let them down? Personal choice buddy

[@mathewhastings9485]

We had an Etec and it gave us nothing but problems, a lot of fuel issues. Guess we got the lemon of the litter.

[@wasupfool5692]

Lots of Evinrudes around here, got 2 myself because they are the closest outboard dealer to me, I've had more than my share of issues. Tried trading both of them in on a Suzuki or Yamaha but unfortunately resale is very poor on Eteks

[@micksmith3434]

@@wasupfool5692 yeh my mates wont idle now and keeps shutting down? B.O.A.T bring on another thousand lol.

[@vincentmondello2052]

An outboard is as good as the mechanic you choose to work on it. Don't take the cheapest route. Well...unless your bro is a kickass certified marine mechanic and you bring the beer. :P

[@johnsonslawnserviceministr4038]

That’s so crazy I remember when I was a kid if you didn’t have an Evinrude you didn’t have a good engine on your boat it’s so crazy 30 years a company can go belly up

[@AgentSmith911]

Yup, back when Evinrude and Johnson was the most reliable outboards you could have. Today, it's only overly complicated and expensive options left. Evinrude was the last of its kind.

[@lyndontarrant4548]

Yes I work at a johndeere dealership alongside selling canam and evinrude boats. I remember the day after evinrude told us they are done, me and a couple guys where joking about not wanting to fix a boat because we are no longer a e tes dealer. Dues to warrenty we still will be able to fix and replace parts

[@lyndontarrant4548]

It was also kinda hard to say evinrude was good *first gen was the best* and having to say mercury is better now.

[@jerrychase4177]

Let's hope Polaris buys Evinrude. The Evinrude brand would be a spectacular addition to the Benninton, Godfrey and Hurricane brands that are in Polaris's Portfolio.

[@blacklionengineer3274]

How about ArcticCat the only sled with an American made motor. Yeah Cat should snatch up Evinrude.

[@crazyboatguy6819]

Is it Really going to be bought because i hope so

[@429thunderjet2]

@@blacklionengineer3274 I thought Polaris built their own as well? actually before Cat.

[@matthew1806]

i’ve got a 250 H.O. evinrude on my godfrey and that thing is a beast

[@jlstalman1980]

Evinrude will most likely not be sold and shelved like Johnson.

[@robertjackson7590]

BRP bought Johnson/Evinrude, who's to say it won't be bought by another company. It's the buyers market at this point and if the product is that good?? I went Yamaha HPDI bc I still like the 2 stroke.

[@Eugene2ndW]

It seems that so many boat mfg's are partnering with engine mfg's and engines are installed at the boat mfg. So if you want a particular boat, you are stuck with their engine choice. Seems Yammy has the lion share of this partnership and Merc with Bass Pro

[@bigpaul7085]

I've owned Johnson all my life, my 1983, 115 Johnson 2 stroke still fires to this day. It was a sad day to hear the doors shut ! IF I ever win the big lotto, you will see them again !

[@yelyab1]

The outfitters at the Miami boat show loved the Evinrude for there simplicity and ease of service. I’m an engineer from the auto industry. Many times times technology was driven by so called product planners who are engineers with MBAs and never engineered anything. I think these guys thought that the outboard market was not bigenough for the mighty Bomardier. Sounds likes something GM or GE would do! Hopefully blunders like the big boys have made result in highly profitable businesses for somebody serious. We are moving into an era where lighter,reliable, low maintenance costs will be important. Evinrude has those 4 camshafts,32 valve, 5 CPU MOTORSbeat.

[@smokey6859]

I completely agree with you. I am also an automotive engineer but I work as a patent agent and am keeping my ear to the ground to see if any lisences are sold for the Evinrude parents. I don't want to see these two strokes abandoned.

[@airgliderz]

One of many reasons Tesla is largest auto manufacture.

[@melrose9252]

Greg Bayley < Evinrude also has the most complex and unreliable injection system on the market E-Tech). Get over it and understand that 2-strokes are good for weed eaters.

[@ralphprather8528]

@@airgliderz did you bump your head? Tesla doesn't even place on the graph with the big three.

[@airgliderz]

@@ralphprather8528 no idiot. Have you graduated from kindergarten yet, 3rd try? Tesla is worth more the any of the big three. Most valuable auto manufacture in history www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2020/06/14/how-did-tesla-become-the-most-valuable-car-company-in-the-world/

[@blakehaley1631]

Honestly sad to see Evinrude disappear. I’ve got an old one and it never quits...

[@stefanomarcellini6027]

you really lucky

[@charlesburns8661]

Not at all old evinrudes are rock solid, have one from 1978. My brother bought one from 79, he had to clean out carbs.

[@stefanomarcellini6027]

@@charlesburns8661 we are almost 2021, I had a 235 ... I had to throw it away, my light and powerful Mariner 225 was different(1982)

[@charlesburns8661]

@@stefanomarcellini6027 my point was 40 year old evinrudes still run strong .

[@stefanomarcellini6027]

@@charlesburns8661 Dear Charles, I started to do waterski from 1974, with a 737 55 hp, after one summer season, the engine was broken, so, in my mind its ....not so special

[@mg82949]

My two stroke 60 hp Mercury is still starting and running after 20 years. Has never been rebuilt or opened up. I change plugs. impeller. and gear oil and use a little sea foam in the gas. Have turned the idle up a bit every few years.

[@breynolds9499]

I had a 2004 Sailfish 18' flats boat with an Evinrude 150 2 stroke. That was one screaming little boat. Never had a problem with the motor other than maintaining it. Ex wife got the boat. Man I miss that boat

[@melrose9252]

Both could get a rod thrown in them.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

it's gutv¹50 hop ejtrç hall more asß

[@jimstephenson8063]

Just your opinion. I had a 115 and a 300 ETEC Was very pleased with them

[@privat63778]

I had a 250 e tec new and it had problems nearly all the time

[@Mr91495osh]

The new Evinrude was the most advanced outboard ever made and I have been boating for over sixty years. I got my first Evinrude in 1956!

[@melrose9252]

G Howard - The new Evinrude is now out of production, again!

[@zoomzoomgt]

Looking to get mercury/tohatsu 5hp (propane) having minimum 2 ppl max 4 (on a occasions) + gear of course will it it cause alot of stress on motor (14ft semi v haul??) Yes i know it will b underpowered but i dont need lighting fast speed. Just to get to point A to point B (mainly used on small lakes)

[@davidbrennan5]

They lost a lot of market share when Yamaha and Honda came on the scene then they released a couple BAD motors Bankrupt and then they ignored the move towards 4 strokes and lost a ton of people again. They didn't make tons of deals with boat builders like Mercury did and that also hurt them.

[@ghmsadam]

They didn't ignore the move to 4 strokes, Suzuki and Evinrude we're building 4 strokes together and when Suzuki left part of the deal was that they took the 4 stoke technologies with them. 2 strokes are a superior design anyway. Big oil companies and the manufacturers can make much more money off a 4stoke than they can a 2 stroke.... That's why everything has moved to 4 stroke.

[@davidbrennan5]

@@ghmsadam They waited until 2004 to make the deal with Suzuki by that time they had already lost market share to Yamaha and others, in the 90's their motors looked dated, almost unchanged for decades. People switched brands in the 90's because of those dated designs. They gave 7 years of 4 stroke sales from 1998 to 2004 to Honda, Yamaha, Merc etc.. When 4 stroke sales were hot.

[@capetennispro]

I work at an authorized evinrude dealer and those G2’s have so many steering problems.

[@ericg4632]

Same. The DPS is such a nightmare. Side covers don’t seal worth a damn they’re disgusting salt messes after a season and dropping lowers are such a pain. They should have canned the G2 and stuck with the G1

[@thomasmeadors6548]

BRP decided to concentrate on it's jet ski lineup and the engines that go along with them. Simple.

[@grantdubridge7995]

That is called the Sea Doo lineup. jet Ski is Kawasaki.

[@keithdrewv1161]

I think BRP really screwed up and mismanaged the Evinrude brand! Additionally, my experience with the Evinrude's etec's was almost 100% positive and found that they were very reliable. With a warranty that still isn't matched by any other manufacturer it'll be interesting to see if in fact Polaris or perhaps Textron (whom purchased Artic Cat) will bring back the brand. I hope they do and give Evinrude a chance to continue the legacy it helped pioneer!

[@donknotts1314]

Doesn't BRP still own Evinrude, merely shut it down. They still own the plant. Is BRP selling it? I would have thought they would have entertained offers for it when they shut it down. I never heard anything like the employees making an offer for it. It would be outstanding if someone picked it up and ran with it. The Modern Etecs were rock solid. The G2s 150 and under were pretty solid too. Sure there were some bugs to smooth over but they taking care of it. I have a 2019 Etec 135HO, which is basically a detuned 150, same displacement and is programmed to be 10% over stated HP. So it is a 148. Couldn't be happier.

[@melrose9252]

KeithDrew V < BRP knew Evinrude was going nowhere with the 2 Strokes. Mercury and Yamaha strokes nailed the coffin on the 2 stokes. Just like wagon wheels.

[@giannin5989]

“I’ve stayed away from them” “My buddies have always been in the shop” 🤣 Owned Evinrude since 2001 and I upgraded by choice to a new Evinrude as I prayed for something to go wrong so I could justify upgrading but the damn things were built solid. Strictly a personal opinion on this one man.... the amount of features and maintenance free ownership of a Evinrude is second to none. I’ll spend my time on the water while the 4 Stroke guys are doing oil changes !

[@melrose9252]

Gianni N < Your comment exposes your ignorance and stupidity. 4 strokes are much better.

[@giannin5989]

@@melrose9252 The sheer fact your responding to a comment made over 6 months ago displays your clinical reasoning process 👏🏻

[@johnbumpus7138]

@@melrose9252 in what way or four strokes better? They weigh more they are slower and produce less torque The only thing I would categorize that’s better is the fact that most of the time they are a little quieter

[@SkiRacingOz]

@@melrose9252 you haven’t stated any reasons on all of the comments you’ve replied to, your just sore because you couldn’t afford an etec so you got a second hand Suzuki, get over yourself

[@billynichols9715]

Bombardier did the same thing back in the 70s with CanAm motorcycles. Bought in, couldn’t compete/the market took a little down turn and they killed it! Left their dealers and customers hanging. We’ll see how/if they support their existing product.

[@ericsandrin8123]

i have 0 faith in bombardier...look where they went with their new passenger pane...and WE gave them a big cheque just before they paid bonuses to their directors...then took off to the states...another canadian business defects to the US...cant blame them....too much taxes and govt interference in Canada...

[@melrose9252]

@@ericsandrin8123 BRP is a different company than the plane maker.

[@tyrsafray4640]

Well, the G2’s are suspect, but the G1’s are solid and reliable.. I have a 2018 115 Etec that is solid... not one problem and it runs like a demon at WOT... Sad they shut down, so much cool technology that just vanished

[@loganroberge5040]

Actually mercury bought the tech so it wont be waisted

[@sneilert]

Yes, g1s are good and reliable. But uses ALOT of gas compared to fours strokes and the g2s. We have used the g1 50hp and 200hp for ages.

[@lewisjeffreys9175]

Glad you like it, just bought one with 130h, hope its a good one!

[@SkiRacingOz]

@@loganroberge5040 it will, Mercury have quit 2 stroke, evinrude was coming out with a 300 ho that was gonna be a 300r killer, then came COVID, then came bankruptcy, then came death, Mercury won’t touch any of that, they’ll move on like it was never there

[@tedcurtner9878]

I still use an evinrude to this day Best outboard ever made

[@harryvopicka9238]

I walked the halls of Waukegan training center for many years as a technician for school. Raced 70 thru 150 HP IN APBA as a crew chief for Frank Erion. Frank and I to my memory were the first team to race the 150 FICHT in the first EFI class. It was started as the first green class and all first fuel injected 150 HPS could compete. The boat motor and driver max weight was 1600 pounds USA. But I may be off by 50-100 Pounds factually. We could not modify motors per rules. Previously the other classes were loud due to exhaust modifications. When we raced the EFI,S they were so quiet you could watch the crowd as they headed to the to vendors of beer and trinkets. I currently am the owner of ALL SEASONS MARINE in Manteno, ILLINOIS. We currently are servicing OMC, BOMBARDIER engines. The failure of OMC is more about the EPA mandates that forced the production of FICHT and OPTIMAX and the proximity to Chicago crime. There was a company in Summit that was employee owned that did testing for all kinds of motor companies. It went into bankruptcy when the EFI outboards came out. I worked for Crest Marine and we bought there outboard division. I spent a week loading parts and test motors into 2 large rental semis with their 2 Top managers. They told me they would run motors o

[@johnwhite252]

It all started when the Tree Huggers said 2 strokes too dirty. I had a Yamaha 150 HPDI (Direct FI) on the same type boat I have now with a Yamaha 150 4 Stroke. The 4 stroke has nothing on the HPDI 150. quitter, fuel efficient, never saw blue smoke, smoother, snap your neck hole shot and 6 mph faster on top end, lighter too. The EPA screwed the 2 strokes. They are still made but you can't buy a new one in the US. E-TEC was a good engine but BRP has screwed up several industries. So long Lear Jet, RIP after 55 years of production.

[@BeamerTheFox]

it started going down hill when OMC went away

[@georgecummings3227]

How can something with less moving parts more low end torque loose. Misinformation?

[@tonnyplaysgames220dailygam5]

It’s too bad. But there’s something to say about the Verado. How many other engines can you have a comfortable conversation at 45 Knots? I really hope evinrude can pull it together. Competition brings better products.

[@justaguy6100]

Cool video, good analysis, decent history lesson. First time seeing one of yours, I liked and subbed.

[@Internutt2023]

The E-Tec and G2 motor sales unfortunately always had to struggle with the concept that "2 stroke engines are smoky, maintenance intensive and unreliable" which Evinrude proved that by proper design they are not. The G2 motors were widely used by top level CHAMPIONSHIP AND TOURNAMENT winning bass fishing pro's ( Wesley Strader, Jacob Wheeler, Andy Morgan, Dustin Connell and many more - who found that the G2 was just faster and as reliable as a Merc or other brands) until Evinrude pulled the support staff that they used to send to tourneys to keep the contestants motors supplied with any parts and service they needed. As of the past few years though, Merc has raised the bar by making the 4 stroke motors as lightweight and almost as efficient as the G2, and that was a good part of "pigeon holing" Evinrude into a spot where major redesigns would be needed to stay ahead.

[@wschafer8633]

They will be back in two years. Evinrude will manufacture motors overseas. The slogan will be the legend is back. I can see the future.

[@falkon215]

I really hope so

[@sailsailsailsailsail]

That could be the plan.

[@melrose9252]

W Schafer < 2 Strokes are dead and no one with any brains ( Biden Voters) would put up the billions it would take to get Evinrude to compete in today’s market. . RIP Evinrude.

[@anthonycloud7109]

As I was growing up as a kid you always heard the commercial on TV nothing runs like an Evinrude Johnson Evinrude was the top dog of outboard motors at one time

[@21DaHoagie12]

as a poor guy getting into boating, my first few engines were evinrude 6hp and 7.5 hp tillers from the 70s. They were fun little engines to tinker around with and they got ya goin on a little job boat haha. I remember my dad and grandpap always telling me that evinrude was considered the top of the line, shame to see em falling by the wayside.

[@Bassin_withaustin]

Am I still going to be able to get parts for my 99 Johnson motor

[@Sea-Bass]

Try doing search and recovery with a 2 stroke. idling for 8 hours trying to drag really takes a toll on a 2 stroke outboard.

[@carlosarthurpetry3674]

Not if it is DFI. People need to stop comparing old 2 stroke with new 4 stroke.

[@thebeardedone1225]

I've had my gramps old 48 model deep V, with a 1947 Evinrude 35hp motor on it for twenty years, and have never had to turn a wrench on it. It starts first pull, every time. Say what you want about Evinrude, but as a retired old man, that enjoys living on the lake, and fishing every day, I could not imagine ever getting another motor on her. Even though a few years ago, I ran across a 10 hp Johnson sea horse, same year model, but have never had to use it. Evinrude made a mark on the industry, and has guaranteed its place in history.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

everúdec35 hp jet outbard might gett a try

[@johnbennett4413]

Great job. Thx

[@marcyburford]

On second etech lm a commercial fisherman in florida 6000hrs on first motor already have 5000 in a little over 5yrs on second that's more hours than most will do in a lifetime

[@shanepatrick3813]

So funny when I hear merc guys say evinrude isn’t reliable, mercs are the worst and most expensive to fix. Anyone that has worked on two strokes knows how easy they are. I’ve seen guys still running evinrude a from the 90s and 2000s and still running perfect

[@wasupfool5692]

We can't get them to last at all here on the east coast of Canada, we try all brands in the commercial oyster industry.They do have a durable lower unit though

[@charlesburns8661]

@@shanepatrick3813 I have a 1979 evinrude still runs perfect.

[@melrose9252]

@@shanepatrick3813 = Don’t compare them old OMC’s to the new Evinrudes. It’s funny that Mercury is the world leader and Evinrude is out of business. Makes you sound real dumb.

[@captlucky2320]

Epa in the USA has killed the 2 stroke that's why I'd be willing to bet we will see a rotax outboard

[@jwill9877]

No the 4 stroke killed the 2 stroke.

[@captlucky2320]

@@jwill9877 wrong alot of 2 stroke lovers still out here pound for pound better power

[@gr8fullfred]

@@captlucky2320 Pound for pond more power, but much less fuel efficient. The 4 strokes get better fuel efficiency.

[@jlo13800]

There nis the 850 ETEC thats still made and the 2021 skidd is turbo stock. That rotax needs to be scaled up to 550 to 800 cubic inches inline 6 or v8. Or get an aftermarket aluminum big block v8 and do a mode like this chevy:www.4btswaps.com/attachments/2cyclesbc-jpg.6839/

[@jlo13800]

@@captlucky2320 Heres a DIY v8 chevy sb 2 stroke:www.4btswaps.com/attachments/2cyclesbc-jpg.6839/.

[@Fuckthathoe]

Have a og etec on my jet boat. That thing is a beast!!!

[@sebfettel]

Going to miss you Evinrude it's been fun!!