The Real Reason People Are Giving Up on Work | America’s Labor Crisis Livestream

If you’re a business owner, you know the last three years have been crazy, right? When you go through the process of finding and hiring the right people just to end up losing the people you already have . . . it can feel like you’re getting hit from all sides. We’re feeling it too-and we all need a healthy dose of hope.
So, for this year’s Small Business Week, Dave Ramsey and Mike Rowe are teaming up with five bestselling authors and experts on the state of work in America today. They’ll address the real reasons why people are giving up on work and the solutions business leaders need to hire in this environment. During this free livestream, you’ll learn:
Current trends affecting the workplace
How to find and hire the right people
How to become a leader people want to follow
What it takes to actually win
If you’re a business leader, you don’t want to miss this free live stream.
Sign up for your free trial of Elite to access our Hiring course: ter.li/4p2fvg
Learn how the labor crisis is impacting small businesses in America from our recent research report: ter.li/jvh8j5
Ramsey Solutions Privacy Policy
www.ramseysolu...

[@Entreleadership]

Sign up for your free trial of Elite to access our Hiring course: ter.li/4p2fvg

[@o_o825]

Whoever works for Dave Ramsey and reviews this comment, do you want to continue working for someone who encourages you to struggle with barely much reward? Do less. God bless.

[@mountaineerhideaway]

Agree with this comment 100%! Read my comment somewhere stuck in this thread.

[@NashvillePastaman]

I don’t think i can count the number of times i have shared this especially from 1:40:00

[@NedDumas]

​

[@madelinem3216]

I worked for an insurance company for 22 years. The last 5 years of the 22, the workload became impossible. I would put in 8 hours, went home to have dinner then got back on the computer to continue working from home until bedtime. I did this 5 days a week and on weekends when I had free time I pulled out my lap top and worked some more. I also worked thru vacations. Needles to say I became depressed. Complaints fell on deaf ears. To top it all off they stopped giving raises unless you EXCEEDED their goals (no one could). It was scary, but after 22 years I had to set myself free from this new form of slavery. I resigned, moved out of state and found a job making a lot less but I was back to working just 40 hours a week. A LOT OF COMPANIES ARE JUST ABUSIVE.

[@victoriasimage]

This couldn’t be more accurate. Majority of people I know that have switched jobs recently cited this as their number one reason.

[@robertneville2022]

So very sad

[@Takerslove23]

I am in the same boat!

[@webmonkeymon]

The entire insurance industry as well as the financial services Is old white guy porn!

[@noelhanna6432]

Your experience is exactly the same as mine. My employer treated me with disdain. Added to my workload. No gratitude. I just needed someone to tell me I was doing a good job, or understand my workload. I got depressed too. I had to retire on ill health. If they can get someone who works harder than me, good luck to them. I'm not being treated like that again.

[@stephaniep1761]

The war is not on work. It is on well-being, and the family.

[@Robert-ki7bz]

Lack of self discipline by business leaders has led to this. The war is really on business leaders. And, rightfully so.

[@MissChievousRN]

It's a war on the psyche of a soft weak population. Strip people of meaning and worth and degrade hope. People need to build themselves a marketable skillset, at any age, and define their own terms. But be realistic about what both sides are offering. Demoralization is the cancer destroying our work ethic. No one can fix that except the individual.

[@KC-dr3cg]

@@Robert-ki7bz yes! GREED on the part of CEO ...

[@Bactaman]

Seems like pretty near everything is a war on something in the United States. I like orange juice.. AAHHHHH!! YOU HATE APPLES!! WAR ON APPLES!!

[@AnimalMother60]

@@BactamanI declare a war on your oversensitive perception of the prevalence of sensitivity

[@ek5384]

Loyalty crisis is the core of the problem. I worked for a long time, very hard, at a very underpaid position for which I was overqualified because I believed in the purpose of the job. Admin had zero appreciation for my dedication and treated me like a disposable tool. When I realized I was missing out on good retirement, good healthcare - so many things that could improve the quality of my life for this job I felt stupid. So I just moved on, got a job paying me my worth and yet I still have firm boundaries. When I’m there I produce high quality work. But hours are nonnegotiable, my email is not checked until Monday morning, I apologize but refuse unpaid work etc. When dedication is a one way street, then it’s exploitation. I’m not killing myself again for a bunch of strangers that will turn their back on me first chance they get.

[@Sheperd_of_GA_has_my_Love_2022]

Good for you, for real! I wish I’d seen the error in my way when I had options. There are possibly 3 jobs I’m qualified for, it sucks being this old and this worthless, friends say oh you can cut grass, but I know it takes more than a mower to cut yards…yes I could cut your grass but what will I ruin in the process? It’s not worth being sued over tying to make $40. Or loosing that $40 for 1 tire slide on the grass. I guess my what if’s defeat me.

[@willfergusson724]

Yes. I believe in hard work and will continue to do so. BUT I understand how many of us including myself have worked HARD and not been appreciated or valued or promoted. Best workers don't always get their due and this does get to people!

[@J0HN3]

Having reasonable Boundaries is very healthy in my opinion. I love the book “Boundaries” by Dr Henry Cloud. If folks work an honest 40 hour week that’s reasonable. By honest, I mean actually 40 hours of true actual productive work.

[@majinbuu34]

Exactly. I worked seven years for my employer and when going got tough during the pandemic, they fired the staff and tried to strong arm us all into signing inferior contracts, just because "we" should take one for the team. Now, not a single upper level administrator got a pay cut and the CEO still took home his million dollar salary, but it was somehow our responsibility to save the business from their poor decisions that got us here in the first place. Well, I think you can guess what happened, over half the staff said "screw your disloyalty, we were willing to help til you fired us and treated us as disposable," then they left. Corporate disloyalty is also a huge part of the problem, which Dave briefly touched upon. The screw them over before they screw you over mentality is not going away anytime soon in this current job environment.

[@MissChievousRN]

THIS GUY❤ YES!!🤗

[@samthiel4315]

I’m 21 years old and have been extremely successful as a union electrician. I’m so disappointed in the schooling system for not telling young people, like myself, how prosperous and purposeful your life can be in the trades.

[@henryhill3778]

Well said Sam. When I

[@BirdDogey1]

The key word is Union. Unions look out for their members. I don't think Dave is pro union.

[@tallswede80]

problem is, then the union becomes the gatekeeper. then you have other problems because unions are prone to corruption.

[@aolvaar8792]

My two brothers are union carpenters, required 2-year degrees and sponsorship into the union. Limit to the number of seats in the union. I used my 4-year engineering degree to be accepted into a 48 month apprenticeship as a station electrician.

[@Sheperd_of_GA_has_my_Love_2022]

They pushed college for everyone and didn’t test for people that would of been more successful in the trades, yes counselors did push some to the trade school but only based on parents income or quotas. But in my honest opinion if America was for its own we all would HAVE to have a law class or two so we could understand laws written in our favor and ones meant to deceive us also! Prove me wrong_____! We know congress are sellouts and are in it for themselves!!!!

[@rrck6610]

Yeah, worked for one of those companies...making body parts for kenworth trucks. Boss promised me a $0.50 raise for each new part I learned to build. I learned 7 of them well and after a year...$0.00 in pay raises. Walked out at lunch one day and didn't come back.

[@R_W_Goodson]

Did the former boss or company try to get you to go back?

[@erwinbrubacker7488]

Im a trk drvr, same on my end, bad employers.

[@KurtVogel88]

Good man.

[@edwardpurks3883]

I was 15 years in as a mechanic. I was looking up to the head technicians in the industry. They were beat, broken, tired. Still putting in 50-60 hour work weeks at the age of 55. Yet, still not at the top of their game due to vehicle's changing constantly. Always learning on the go, frustration, and mediocre pay for their time and experience. Little to no off time. Their skill set was similar to a doctor with none of the benefits or respect. They would have little to no retirement due to their broken body or lack of proper investing. It was sad seeing the "retired" mechanics become parts delivery drivers for Napa because they needed the extra income until they passed. Often, the best workers had some sort of drug addiction, and the owners knew it and didn't care because it was making profits. The managers/supervisors would be smacking the young guy's back saying "If you work real hard, you will be where we are one day", or the famous "I had 3 jobs at the same time when I was your age". "We are not seeing you try hard enough! We want you coming in early and leaving late every day. Show us you want this"... I didn't see what they wanted that life for. They were always chasing the dollar. No home life what so ever. What was the most eye opening was every year, another old friend, customer, or relative who busted their ass for 50 years would be diagnosed with cancer before being able to enjoy retiring. People retire with millions and are not able to use any of it. Too old to travel or too decrepit to enjoy living the way they planned. All their money consumed by healthcare facilities or undeserving kids as inheritance, often times splitting the families apart. After seeing this, my wife and I decided to pull our kids out of daycare and homeschool them. We decided to pay off all our debt and change our lifestyle. We teach our children they don't have to live the American dream and become a slave to the workforce. But to work smart, stay out of debt, and live within your means. Find what you love doing that helps others and work for yourself if you have to. I work for myself helping people in town doing anything I can. It's been very rewarding. My wife works 10 days a month as a surgical technician and loves it. We are raising a family of 6 basically from one salary, and It's been a 180-degree change from how we were living 3 years ago. We are now both spending the best of our years with our kids. Many times, just sitting on the front porch watching the busy bees of the world. Modern slavery

[@davidb2206]

"Lack of proper investing" is THEIR fault. "Drug addiction" is THEIR fault. These are choices. THEY are accountable. Nobody else. You sound like another pimp, living off "one salary" -- year, YOUR WIFE'S!

[@Coastpsych_fi99]

Love mechanics it’s such a valuable role to our society!

[@davidb2206]

What a load of bs. Who would want you around with your attitude? I DID work 3 jobs and not as a very young man, either, but in my mid-30's. (Does that idea just scare the shirt out of YOU?) So what? It didn't kill me. And it was not forever. It solved financial stresses wonderfully. And quickly. I also "came in early and left late every day" (including WEEKENDS -- that must REALLY scare you) in the Army for fellow Americans. NONE of us had a "home life" by your fool standard. Another slackard and pimp. We had lots of colorful names for your kind in the infantry that I will not use here in a public forum.

[@davidb2206]

@niles-ek2we Flirting does not belong on the job. Work is work. I see right away that your "loose" attitude about it does not belong on any work team. Someone like you would be disastrous in the military units I led. I side with your former boss/es. Work is work.

[@dalet9207]

#1 Stay out of debt!

[@tinacherian4816]

Doing hard things in the right circumstances is key. Why kill yourself for a company that looks at you as a number? Or miss out on you children’s lives for that company? It’s also about working smarter. People are waking up to how precious time and mental health is and redirecting their hard work to the things that matter in life.

[@rachaelholderman9677]

This is what Dave and Ken call being on the wrong team or the wrong "bus".

[@PazLeBon]

@@rachaelholderman9677 the bus of contentment and self sufficiency

[@richardeidemiller6739]

@@PazLeBon Fine if they're self sufficient, however feeding off the Government or committing crime doesn't fall into those categories. I would like someone to tell me how many of these people eat or pay rent or mortgage without a job. I've yet to hear where the fountain of free flowing money is located. Vicki

[@rachaelholderman9677]

@@PazLeBon No. the wrong employment setting/company/ leader. I'm actually in this situation myself. I'm staying a few more years until we get our completion bonus so I'll get paid well to move to the next thing. The past couple of years have shown me that my company's core values don't align with mine but they are begging me to stay as we are at the point of the project where they can't really hire new people for what I do. And they are giving me freedom to express my values in the workplace.

[@tinacherian4816]

Yessss! That was exactly my point. Why should you work so hard at a dead end job or a job where the leaders are not good and don’t value you or your hard work all while you’re just making them richer? People are wisening up and figuring out how to do more unconventional work, invest their money, do side hustles, work for themselves and pour that blood sweat and tears to make themselves rich, get their time and sanity back and escape the rat race trap. Employees are getting their power back and companies don’t like it.

[@getinthespace7715]

With inflation out of control and employers not giving sufficient raises... my work has given a total of 9% in "merit" raises over the last 3 years. 3% per year. The only way to make up the difference is to start your own business. I'm in the process of saving cash to build my first house. Once I get the second one built I'll ditch the 8-5 and stop being an "Employee" for the rest of my life. I'm sick of making other people rich. Time to start making my family rich.

[@Andrew-3445]

That's the problem with the people sitting out. They only give excuses, no plans or solutions.

[@Liimpy]

You're making enough to build your own house but the man's keeping you down..loooool.. inflations transitory, i was told..

[@Truth_Hunter_1]

I haven’t got a good rise in 10 years

[@Andrew-3445]

@@Truth_Hunter_1 Then you definitely need to find a better job. No "good rise" in 10 years means you are getting paid less because of inflation.

[@Timblisi]

One thing I've noticed here is that these guys have a lot to say about people who aren't working, but between employers, book writers, podcasters, arctic explorers, and everyone else, the only people they don't seem to have listened to about why people aren't working is people who aren't working.

[@J19118]

Bingo. Glad I’m not the only one thinking the same thing.

[@BirdDogey1]

I'm trying to figure out how the explorer story applies to me.

[@Robert-ki7bz]

Puzzling isn't it? This two-man talking charade is comical, at best.

[@jdwar11]

Do you really want to hear the perspective of the entitled 20 something year old male that accumulated $60k in college loans and is currently unemployed and living in their mothers basement not even looking for an entry level job instead of an executive manager that has a starting salary that is equivalent to someone that has been employed there for 20 years?

[@Robert-ki7bz]

@@jdwar11 I'll choose the former.

[@vaportrails7943]

List of most unfilled jobs, from most to least: 1. Cashiers 2. Retail Salespersons 3. Waiters and Waitresses 4. Customer Service Representatives 5. Registered Nurses 6. Fast food workers 7. Office clerks 8. Laborers 9. Elementary school teachers 10. Stock clerks 11. Truck drivers 12. Janitors and maids 13. Postsecondary teachers 14. Home health aides 15. Child care workers 16. General managers 17. Accountants 18. Office managers 19. Receptionists 20. Personal and home care aides 21. Bookkeepers 22. Sales representatives 23. Retail sales managers 24. Cafeteria, food concessions and coffee shops 25. Nursing aides Only a handful of those jobs pay more than minimum wage. This whole show is an exercise in gaslighting on behalf of employers, to tell people why they should work 60 hours a week for minimum wage. Nurses, truck drivers and accountants can make decent money. So those are good ones to aim for. For most jobs that pay enough to actually live on, there are huge pools of applicants, and only a few of them are deemed “qualified”. In that case, the educational system is to blame, and employers need to relearn how to do on-the-job training. It’s employers who have been coddled, with years of artificially suppressed wages from the exploitation of cheap foreign labor through “globalization”. They’re the ones who need the tough talk: sorry, but you have to hire Americans and pay them more. And if you “can’t afford it”, that means your business sucks and deserves to go out of business. Globalization and foreign labor are the new slavery. If you can’t pay somebody $50-60k, which is what it takes to just survive in 2023, you need to cut your own salary or work harder. Or you can hire high school students on the weekends. And I just described the actual situation, not the vague nonsense being spouted by this panel of media grifters, who figured out how to get rich with empty words.

[@oakspro2998]

Great analysis. I'm so wanting to remind Ramsey of their Millionaires study. They found 88% of Millionaires went to college and individuals who were engineers, accountants, teachers, and attorneys were most likely to generate wealth. None of those occupations were trades. I nearly went into the trades years ago but changed my mind because, despite the earnings potential, the chances of me wearing out my body, substance addiction, and mental health problems were off the charts. This speaking event was just an ego boost for business owners.

[@vaportrails7943]

@@oakspro2998 Depending on which trade you’re talking about, it’s not guaranteed to be physically harsh. Such as being an electrician. Skilled trades are not at all a bad idea. And more people should do that. But that’s not where the really big shortages are. It’s the really low paying jobs that are going unfilled, while more skilled jobs can’t find people who are “qualified”. Including college graduates. If every job opening requires multiple years of experience, which 98% of them do, you’ve got an army of desperate people fighting over the few times the door cracks open for an entry level job.

[@oakspro2998]

@@vaportrails7943 Good point, electricians definitely have it easier on the body. This video was certainly a hard sell of EntreLeadership to an audience of businesses owners and 'leaders.' I have a feeling its going to blow up and get a lot of criticism for how out of touch it is with working class men.

[@timkono5645]

To me, the biggest driver of these labor problems is the distrust employees have for their employers nowadays. Imo, the difference between the days my father was working and my day is that employers aren’t loyal anymore while we are still largely expected to be robots. “You get paid to do what we tell you to do” gets old fast. In my companies, working with my head down (which is what many old heads told me to do and the advice I followed for years) and not saying a peep gets you stored in a corner somewhere and getting forgotten until your performance review where you get a “meets expectations” and a 3% merit raise in a good year (typically 2-2.5% and as low as nothing in my chosen industry) and getting laid off because you weren’t a favorite with upper management. In my experience, jumping ship from company to company gave me the best raises/experiences than being loyal ever did. Also I get working hard and resilience and getting thick skin by experiencing the tough things, but there comes a time when it doesn’t help and it would be helpful to people if they can identify when they should tap out. For example, I was under a lead on a project that just kept berating me off much of my work day every day for 6 months. It was to the point where my joy of doing the work just evaporated and I just wanted to go home and do nothing else. At worst, it started to affect my health (high blood pressure being one). I did work and finished it to this person’s seeming satisfaction, but every time this person would come berate me and my work in front of other workers. The worst of it lasted 6 months with me thinking “its ok it’s only one more week” while i kept going up the chain of command wondering if this was normal because I just didn’t know better. I finally snapped out of this cycle by going to HR. If companies and workers can avoid situations like these, work will become a much more enjoyable place and employers can attract/keep more employees to their businesses.

[@vaportrails7943]

@@timkono5645 If you look at the jobs that are unfilled, it’s overwhelmingly about the pay not being worth the work.

[@osu33089]

Workers doing as little as possible? Aren’t the corporations doing as little as possible to keep profits coming in? As little as possible to keep people pissed off but producing something?? This would be most companies in this world. Everyone is scrambling to find some sort of security because a job doesn’t offer that anymore.

[@markschrist]

More money never fixes a person like you ...a victim. The opportunities to excel and make money are endless....you are blind

[@oddinaustin]

Doing as little as possible for the workers that make their business possible while doing as MUCH as possible to crush any worker's rights. They'd rather pay lobbyists to work the laws in their favor than pay people fairly. They'd rather pay marketing to spread misinformation to blame workers for their alleged crisis.

[@meredithjones4552]

I work in an office and we can’t find people because the pay is right above fast food jobs. If these businesses would pay more they would have better employees that would stay longer. People figure out they can barely pay their bills for giving so much of their time away. No thank you.

[@Liimpy]

The problem is fast food jobs are overpaid, an issue the state has created. Now fast food companies are closing hundreds of thousands of restaurants in states with forced min wage laws that progress every year.. A lot of us seen this coming, but oh well, i guess..

[@livelaughlove4635]

@@Liimpy Exactly.

[@katywolffis7678]

I’m looking at office jobs, but when a front desk receptionist is only making $11-13/hr (which is what I was making 6 years ago as an admin) I can’t take that kind of pay. I have bills and responsibilities. I can’t live on that. I pretty much already make that where I am working less hours.

[@michellem8284]

Working for and loyalty to a big company used to get you good benefits and a nice pension. Now benefit costs are sky-high and pensions are nearly non-existent.

[@ericharrison6418]

A ton of jobs I’ve had have been on the job training or self taught and it’s impossible to convey my expertise without a degree or licensure. Employers and HR departments are very picky while offering low wages.

[@nicole_michelle]

That last part, I concur and I have a degree SMH

[@MovieReadings]

I’m not a complete doomer, but finding gainful employment is extremely difficult right now. Those doing the hiring are probably causing half or more of the problem.

[@MrAdamdumont89]

You’re going at it the wrong way. The best jobs aren’t found with generic job applications. They are found by being the best there is and getting head hunted by family, friends, and associates. If you want a great job, you have to build a reputation in your industry and sometimes that means working for little pay as you first start building your value

[@karlstrauss2330]

Don’t expect any sympathy from the corporate America simps named Dave Ramsey and Mike Rowe

[@karlstrauss2330]

@@MrAdamdumont89you still believe meritocracy is a thing in America? How cute

[@silverman5707]

About 30 years ago the CEO to workers pay had a 40 to 1 ratio, now it is 400 to 1.

[@kenyonbissett3512]

Or much more than 400 to 1

[@captainnemo4422]

So we should just stop working due to this??

[@kenyonbissett3512]

@@captainnemo4422 no but everyone deserves a similar raise. The system is no longer capitalism but socialized capitalism for the rich, with workers absorbing the loses and the rich being rewarded

[@captainnemo4422]

@@kenyonbissett3512 I started working in the insurance industry making 12 bucks an hour answering the phone..fast forward 15 years and today I make six figures..

[@kenyonbissett3512]

@@captainnemo4422 very happy for you. My parents started in 1959 with zilch and ended up millionaires thru sacrifice and hard work. My sister and brother the same. Me, I’m very comfortable thru work and financial planning. Doesn’t mean I think 400 to 1 + more is appropriate. And many corporations like AIG were bailed out. Hedge funds are bailed out. Big banks are bailed out. The system has become as unequal as in 1929 that was a major problem the was a cause of the 1929-1946 Depression/recession/war. History will always repeat itself and the excesses today are the same as 1929. There is always a price to pay and we, the regular Americans will be the one to pay it.

[@gleichr158]

One thing we need to include in this conversation is how we support our retiring tradesman. The trades can wear the body out but we need their skills training the next generation.

[@Mark-fh5lp]

Remember 1 thing. It is YOUR generation that told us all to go to school. Never forget that.

[@bodybong]

School is ok as long it's trade school or something useful, not gender studies or liberal arts

[@davidb2206]

They conned me, too. Late 1970's and psych major. It's not new. It was all lies and useless.

[@MAfanwoods37]

That's right

[@dreke1020]

That’s all we heard growing up.

[@smokeeater1769]

No one was told to get a useless degree

[@datguy4104]

Low wages > low loyalty > lower staff > higher job stress > higher turn over > less loyal staff > higher turnover > higher job stress > and so on. It's a chain with a simple correction. Higher wages > higher loyalty > less turnover > less job stress > etc. Times are changing. Companies don't get free debt, and the cost of living is sky rocketing. It's a very simple thought process for employees: why work a high stress job for barely enough money to afford food and a dumpster efficiency apartment when I can not and get by on benefits. The benefits aren't the problem, trash wages are.

[@datguy4104]

@Nobody Uniparty.

[@martyolson9433]

​@@datguy4104Trump, dah

[@barryspurlock3048]

Part of the problem is that experience is not valued by the employer. Experienced employees are being paid the same wages as entry-level employees and get fed up and quit.

[@hipoint40cal39]

Got that right; I have been slaving at a tire warehouse for almost 15 years and i only make $1 above our starting wage.

[@lightningpop8717]

My typical Job application and interview experience Me: 35 minute job application Me: 2 hour computer test Me: 25 minute HR interview Me: 80 minute Hiring Manager interview Me: Received email 4 weeks later from HR HR: Job still open but you're not hired. 😐

[@firefly9838]

Yup if they really needed people they'd be less picky, pay more, and make the application process easier.

[@rustyscrapper]

I am a truck driver and I have been asked the same questions in the interview word for word 3 times. 3 different corporations, 2 provinces, recruiters reading from the same script.

[@mrwednesdaynight]

There is the problem a lot of people face. It's beaten the ambition out of young people.

[@yearginclarke]

I spent 4 months this winter looking for a new job, in an effort to get away from the long commutes in my normal job. Rejection after rejection, and still MORE rejections. I was applying for simple entry level labor jobs, i.e. construction, plumbing, painting, warehouses, and other similar jobs. I have 15 years experience in logging doing lots of physical labor and running equipment. I have a hell of a hard work ethic. But no one would hire me. So this "labor shortage" we're always hearing about seems like a total crock of sh*t from my experience.

[@Bickinothome]

We decided to hire internally or we had an internal applicant in mind for this job in the beginning but had to post the position for legal reasons.

[@AmandaHugenkiss2915]

Most of the labor problem is the age old problem of employers not paying enough to lure and secure quality people. You get what you oay for. Pay crap wages and you get the quet quitters, and the guys who don't show up, and the girls who bring drama and strife to your workplace. Pay well and you can be picky because you WILL get a lot of people applying.

[@salemdesigns65]

At my job, the workers are paid very well yet lazy and do not want to come to work. They feel that they're entitled.

[@AmandaHugenkiss2915]

@@salemdesigns65 you suffer from poor, weak management. They need to get rid of them and hire motivated people. You don't motivate people, you hire ones who are already motivated.

[@salemdesigns65]

@@AmandaHugenkiss2915 Unfortunately, I'm not in HR and...you can't just 'get rid' of an employee. There are laws out here...

[@aolvaar8792]

@@salemdesigns65 At will employment: I am not a slave or an indentured servant, My employment is at My Will. I have always reserved the right to Quit, at any time, for any reason, or no reason at all. My employer has the same rights, at any time, for any reason, or no reason at all.

[@salemdesigns65]

@@aolvaar8792 Are you trying the justify your situation or making a point?

[@AnthonyIsmael-b5g]

I love this current era. The employee has tons of opportunities and the corporations are upset that they can no longer manipulate the average do anymore.

[@bigmyke2008]

The only reward I’ve ever gotten for working hard at my job is more work to do

[@Ink30]

Facts❤

[@Der8cho]

Truth!

[@gfy2979]

And thats what these propagandists will give you!

[@skepticalbutopen4620]

Did you not get more compensation? I did. A helluva lot more….

[@clintonkoenig1628]

@@skepticalbutopen4620 no, I think what he's saying is the only reward he's ever gotten for working hard at his job was more work to do.

[@thomasmorrison3279]

The war is not on work, it is on work/life balance and lack of loyalty and fairness to employees. Many small businesses cannot pay a living wage. This is why people do not work for them long term. Corporations pay better wages and benefits, but everyone is expendable. The harder you work, the more work they give you and when someone quits, gets fired or there is a layoff, they do not hire the same number of people they had before, so more work goes to each remaining employee. When I worked as an engineer, I was basically told that I would be the first to be laid off, because I was an expense and did not generate money for the company. At the same time, sales people were earning record bonuses for record sales of products. I got out of engineering and went into law. Many law environments are very bad also, but it is better than working for a corporation or being underpaid by a small business.

[@auburnjewels2]

Business owners did this to themselves in so many ways. People realized they didn't have to tolerate an abysmal job for abysmal pay and they are not stupid, so they figured out different ways to make money without the hassle of working for, and/or with, miscreants. 😂

[@legendaryknight9370]

Don’t forget big corporations got bailed out with taxpayer money and then they had the audacity to price gouge the same people who bailed them out of bankruptcy so they can make a record profits

[@jamie5397]

You lack basic knowledge on economics. Big corporations are not people. Truth is that employees have never had it better. You are just cry baby snowflakes. Look at big corporations market caps, they are not hurting. Small businesses are hurting. Your view is a sad reflection on our educational system. Just ignorant

[@jamie5397]

@@legendaryknight9370 which corporations got bailed out exactly? 😂. Talking without thinking

[@MissChievousRN]

Yes, that's called Free Market. 🇺🇸💯🇺🇸 I don't think that's the point of this podcast though.

[@hugoespinal6885]

@@jamie5397 PPP loans (the full principal amount and any accrued interest) may be fully forgiven, meaning they do not have to be repaid. If you do not apply for forgiveness, you will have to repay the loan,, //// maybe is You who is "Talking without thinking " or reading

[@Raymondjohn2]

We read news in the media that doom and gloom is coming and we just accept it, doom and gloom doesn’t always have to be coming, I’ve read numerous success stories of people that are pulling off tremendous gains of up to $250K within weeks in this crazy market and I just want to learn how to achieve such figures.

[@Oly_laura]

Since the crash, I've been in the red. I’m playing the long term game, so I'm not too worried but Jim Cramer mentioned there are still a lot of great opportunities, though stocks has been down a lot. I also heard news of a guy that made $250k from about $110k since the crash and I would really look to know how to go about this.

[@martingiavarini]

There are actually a lot of ways to make high yields in a crisis, but such trades are best done under the supervision of Financial advisor.

[@hermanramos7092]

Thats true, I've been getting assisted by a FA for almost a year now, I started out with less than $200K and I'm just $19,000 short of half a million in profit.

[@Oly_laura]

@@hermanramos7092 Impressive can you share more info?

[@hermanramos7092]

@@Oly_laura My advisor is ‘’Catherine Morrison Evans’’ she’s highly qualified and experienced in the financial market. She has extensive knowledge of portfolio diversity and is considered an expert in the field. I recommend researching her credentials further. She has many years of experience and is a valuable resource for anyone looking to navigate the financial market

[@GRpd-nh7hl]

The hiring process is a nightmare for an applicant. Then taxes take 30%-40%® of it. Sign your life away, in paperwork ( non compete , non solicited etc...). post getting fired legal obligations you signed. Fired at anytime for any reason, or No reason ( yep you agreed to it) or any reason that they wish to make up to justify stopping you from getting unemployment, thereby smearing your name when you want to find a new job as your x employer sees fit. Gee I wonder why people think it's not worth it, must be something wrong with them.

[@jakeroon]

Yeah well said. Everyone keeps harping on about some kinda spiritual work cult and motivation and attitudes etc etc. It's all poppycock. People go to work to get paid. Companies have made finding, getting, and working a job: a very very bad deal of the worker. The pension no longer even exists. And then everyone wants to complain and wonder why no one wants to work some terrible job with; no benefits, no retirement, low weekly pay, high taxes, droll constant hr nightmare classes that tell you how horrible you nasty lil workers are. It boggles the mind. I used to like Mike Rowe, but to listen to these guys talk about how ppl are just too lazy, and too weak and should just suck it up and take a shitty deal for "reasons" .

[@Robert-ki7bz]

Easy for these guys to sit up there and talk.

[@TheTrueHardcorefr3k]

The coddling I grew up with also took away any sense of accomplishment I had. Graduating high school wasn't satisfying. Getting into college. Passing college classes. It never felt good. I dropped out because i knew I wouldn't be proud of a degree. Got my cdl, and i couldn't be more proud of the things I've learned and accomplished.

[@davidmason777]

Do yourself a favor and don’t become a OTR driver stay local it’s better

[@lorzon]

Dad made $9500 a year in his first job out of college in '76. To equivalent that in the modern economy, you have to make $55,000. The worst thing is that his pay rate never rally changed, sure the amount of compensation increased, but his purchasing power never really did. As for me, I've never even been considered for a job that makes that kind of money.

[@EarlHayward]

The median wage in the US is in the $60k range, for those with a four year college degree that jumps to around $80k… I do electrical and hvac and make a base of $80 and over $100 with overtime; not to mention my annual bonus of 5-10%, stock purchase discount, and health insurance benefits that costs nearly nothing… Maybe you just don’t have any skills in demand…

[@kennethflores-hv7uf]

You would have to move to the major cities and find municipal jobs but those jobs take their pound of flesh.

[@ak47ava]

blaming employees, when most of us end up doing things on a daily basis that is not part of our job requirements, having no background or training, And then get blamed for things that you didn't do incorrectly.

[@joshlarkin5022]

I am an electrical engineer but also am a hard core DIYer. Whenever I am on my stomach in an attic in the middle of July I always think to myself "This would make Mike Rowe proud."

[@dianecelento4974]

You should try starting a youtube channel doing diy projects.

[@mikemiller659]

With glass insulation all over & stuck to your sweaty forhead

[@KurtVogel88]

Enjoy it, slave.

[@taylorkurtz9749]

I’m a stay at home mom homeschooling 4 kids! This inspires me as their leader!

[@marquesmurray]

So, the average man doesn't make enough to afford a house, new car, or a vacation, which means he can't afford sex or a wife. So why would you go to work if your life will be miserable anyway. It's a simple math problem.

[@swissmiss-rj4pq]

Exactly

[@davidb2206]

You will never be able to afford a wife. Especially the way they are raised today.

[@visick7241]

These people don't care about your life. They want the boomer retirement. Give them misery instead that is all they left us. There is a reason vikings threw old cowards off cliffs.

[@yepyep6916]

Another problem is men who lack empathy for other men. Men like Dave will tell you to work harder, pull that transmission out, clean out that dangerous boiler, and put on that roof in 100 degree weather. And when you severely strain your back, then he will call you lazy or a freeloader for being on disability or workman’s comp because you were injured on the job. Don’t drink the capitalist and American dream kool-aid fellas. The system really doesn’t love or care about you as a person or human…The only thing that matters to them is your output and you sacrificing yourself. They show you how much they care about you everyday. Our fellow brothers in leadership positions won’t pass or advocate for laws that address false paternity, bad child support laws, and provide help homeless men. I will never let the elite tell me I need to work harder or that I’m lazy.

[@yepyep6916]

@Joeblo …is that by choice or by occupation

[@andrewkuhlmann7395]

If you require the energy and time of another human for your business to generate profit then you need to compensate the person with a living wage.

[@davidb2206]

That's plain stupid. Not all work deserves a "living wage" or even involves much skills at all. Someone mopping your floor (which I've done) "deserves" a "living wage'"? I don't think so. Are you PAYING a "living wage" for your hamburger at fast food, or your pizza? Then, with all the FICA and overhead, it would have to cost at least $50. Are you offering two or three times the price? Didn't think so. Fool. LIVE BY YOUR OWN PRINCIPLES.

[@dianecelento4974]

Absolutely!

[@mr.clawhands2536]

I'm in a wheelchair and listened to this while I was outside splitting wood for my wood stove that I use to boil water for my coffee and to relax by. Meanwhile the drive thru at the local coffee shop is up to the road. Laziness is not in my vocabulary.

[@robertneville2022]

You the man !!!

[@mr.clawhands2536]

@@robertneville2022 thanks same to you

[@joelcleare]

Owner pulls up in a new truck at a work site. Asks the employees if they like his new truck. All the employees love it. The owner says… if you work hard, don’t take time off, and don’t call in sick then I can buy another next year…😂😂

[@TheSnackAttackingSnorlax]

Or bmw and he makes multiple trips a day to change vehicles , then wants to bitch about his 1500/mo car insurance payments and the insane amount of gas money he spends making unnecessary drives in vehicles that get terrible mileage

[@danielfarmer4311]

People cannot live on 15 an hour in this country. All the empty jobs don’t pay

[@dediturner597]

In America everyone can start their own business and.earn their own “truck’ after quitting working for people who you don’t want to work for, as long as your willing to do the hard things.

[@bobo11112222]

Have a Business idea. Raise capital, take the risk, LOT of SLEEPLESS Night, start your own business. Business fails start all over again, learn from mistakes, Don’t Give up. Don’t just talk about it. Talk is cheap.

[@sunsetfirebird1]

​@Mo Mo exactly. Took me 5 years of sacrifice and hard work driving an old semi to purchase my first brand new 2018 semi and trailer for $276,000. Now it's paid for and I'm making real money. But it took grit

[@tylercampbell6365]

Gig work is a major thing now..These kids don't want the office 9-5 I don't blame them

[@bobthompson5059]

I appreciate Craig Groeschel's humility and straight forward sincerity.

[@johnsnyder751]

This is a great video. During my ~30 years in the corporate world, I have been in situations where the manager kept expecting more hours and kept promising that they would "take care of the employee" but then when it came time for salary increases and bonuses, HR supposedly refused his request for increase and his hands were tied. After multiple years of this, I choose to leave the company. This confirms the axiom that employees don't leave bad employers, they leave bad managers. That being said, it has jaded me to "going that extra mile" for the employer. The employer needs to step up and put their money where their mouth is right out of the gate and put commitments in writing before they should expect the employee to go the extra mile.

[@richguy011]

I think that is something that is actually missing from this video. They are saying there is a "comfort crises" and blame the workers for not working hard enough or working at all. I've worked places too were they say they will do pay raises or empty promises of advancement only to see layoffs. I think that workers are just getting more fed up with empty promises and saying 'If you want me to work for you, you have to make it worth it to me NOW, not pretending that it will be worth it later down the road cause that will most likely just be another lie and there goes another year of my life.'

[@datguy4104]

With a few exception out of my tenure in the workforce I've only come across a handful of lazy people. Nearly every person I've ever worked with has been a hard worker. And with no exception the story always ends the same as yours. It's why the pizza party meme is so prominent. There is no reward for hard work if you're an employee.

[@BirdDogey1]

I sacrificed for years on a promise and when I needed to claim it the promise vanished.

[@katwilliams2950]

@@richguy011 exactly... They want you to work for potential opportunity but I can't afford to live on my own in one of the "most affordable" parts of the USA..... I put my all in but tbh the only way I was able to get significantly higher pay was to move jobs. And even with gross pay being 50k with inflation I can't afford to move out without half my rent taking up 40-50% of my check for a place outside the city, I don't have to worry about getting robbed or the place being disgusting. They comment that there is a misery crisis because we don't work ... I'm miserable because I do "grind" and work hard, pay taxes, be responsible with my money, and my efforts are futile and in vain soon after graduation. Cars have jumped thousands of dollars, and I can't buy a house either because a house that was 120k in 2019 that has cosmetic issues and would have been able to afford is now 200k and a higher interest rate....heh and Dave wants people to get 15 year mortgages at that too 🤣. I may still be working, but I completely understand other men feeling hopeless and just riding the wave. Businesses, mega corporate conglomerates, the gov, and banks/FED have screwed basically screwed most people in America for 30yo on down for the foreseeable future. Shoot Dave even said there won't be a housing crash.... So what am I working towards? Freedom to move out that was easily attainable for all of them who's speaking that has now been pushed out of reach for another 5 years..... And women who are also living with their parents don't want to date men who are in the same predicament

[@preparetobedazled]

Listening to this while I'm working my labor intensive, blue collar, union job. Makes me feel good and proud of what I do.

[@donnieharmon7100]

UPS driver here and I feel the same way!

[@hipoint40cal39]

@@ranbo9390 How so? Unions have been weakened and diminished ever since Reagan. Capitalist dirtbags want very cheap labor to make greater profits, thats why the jobs left.

[@salemdesigns65]

@@ranbo9390 Unions are coming back, slowly. Thank goodness.

[@boggy7665]

Hope you can do it until you're ready to retire, and aren't forced into penury because of an ergonomic injury

[@salemdesigns65]

@Charts Newz It will be ugly if we make it that way. Personally, I don't have time to worry about things that I have no control of...

[@Tribunal1023]

I’ve been burnt before by a company that I bent over backwards for. When Covid first hit, their true colors came out. I learnt I could be replaced at a moments notice even if I worked hard to get their company running. Having said that, I don’t expect companies to bend over backwards for me anymore so why should I? Only if I have a personal motivation. I will work for the money you pay me, that I expect. It’s a contract.

[@kari8552]

Honestly, my difficulty is I have been trying to work all of my life. I have had some health issues all my life, but have done what I could, worked my way off of Social Security Disability I am 57 and have never been able to do enough of value to have much. I am working and doing my best (honestly) and not making it without God's help. My husband has worked hard all his life too and we just have nothing to show for it. We are not stupid. We do the best we can with what we have and are not making horrible decisions.

[@metaldyldo3662]

What about the people that were told they were essential. They worked their butts off for two years while everyone else hid in their basements collecting a pay check. It appears to me that a large amount of people who were considered essential were the retail workers or customer service people. These people are among the lowest paid and least respected. Then we saw large numbers of people leaving fast food jobs or other retail positions. At the same time grocery stores are bringing in self checkout and McDonald's is having you order from a kiosk. I have personally heard Dave complain about how the shelf stockers now want $14 and hour. Wages are not the same as they used to be. Six figure salaries are not what they used to be. A house in my neighbourhood goes for about $700,000. This means a couple needs a household income of about $250,000 in order to be able to comfortably afford the mortgage payment. In 2021 the percentage of people making over $100,000 is 8.7 percent. When I was in school in the 80's we were told this was going to happen when we grew up. We were told the real money that people were going to get paid was going to drop significantly and that people were going to refuse to work in mass. If the teachers I had in grade school knew this was going to happen they we know why it is happening. If they average nurse and the average mechanic living together in a house cannot afford the mortgage in an average neighbourhood then that is our problem. One more thing. Imagine you work retail and did Dave's baby steps to become a millionaire. Then the pandemic happens. How do you think a millionaire feels about working for 1.5 times the minimum wage at a job where they get treated like crap?

[@davidmason777]

Move to new location.

[@ga6589]

@@davidmason777 A cheaper location where a house might not be so expensive, but you're going to also be taking a pay cut or having to commute a long distance to that job?

[@cannonball134]

Thanks for the insight, metal dildo

[@salemdesigns65]

Explain why TONS of people STILL maintain and buy high end homes? What do these people do, to afford them? This is a question that puzzles me.

[@alanj9978]

They aren't their first homes. Or they have huge mortgage payments. And a lot of people do actually make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, even if most people don't.

[@bender3455]

Work from home has benefitted WAY more people than the number of people taking advantage of it.

[@csmoke2k7]

These jobs gotta start paying more plain and simple.

[@emcwealth]

I get more done working from home for companies than I EVER did working in the office for them... in fact to be honest.,.. I work too much!

[@BirdDogey1]

I toured Shiner Beer in Texas. Robots do most of the work. Six people work on the floor. Walmart in New Braunfels just laid off 600 people in their distribution center. Those positions are being automated.

[@willonthegrill9474]

Yes, but the robot manufacturer hired 600 people to help build the robots.

[@BirdDogey1]

@@willonthegrill9474 Maybe, but they weren't built in the US.

[@BirdDogey1]

@@willonthegrill9474 In China.

[@ChristinaBastilla-yx3hj]

The labor crisis is a symptom of a bigger issue that you guys haven’t mentioned.

[@MF_DOOMer]

What is the bigger issue u think?

[@HypnoticChronic1]

@@MF_DOOMer Well if I'd had to say, it would be asinine policy decisions that are reinforcing the welfare state, which are unincentivizing work and punishing you when you do with punishing taxes. So why work when you can get free handouts and less taxes? If anything the inverse should be true and it is unfortunately not.

[@andrewseidl7590]

@@HypnoticChronic1 Are you on drugs? America doesn't take care of the poor. America only takes care of the rich. We spend tax dollars on building billion-dollar football stadiums for billionaire owners.

[@Andrew-3445]

@@andrewseidl7590 They enable the poor but penalize them for not being poor through income and savings limits for welfare. My state only allows for a total of $3k in the bank to be eligible for food stamps.

[@sarahshanahan2222]

​@@HypnoticChronic1 as someone who used to be on medicaid and foodstamps.. I can tell you there is NO incentive to stay on these programs and stay poor. It's HARD. I had to scratch and claw my way out!! The difficulty level was nearly impossible but I was lucky to have somewhat of a support system. Without them I'd probably unfortunately still be in That hellhole. Parents who enable their children by letting them live on the basement is horrible for our society. It's a difficult balence to strike but I'll be damned if I let my kids live that way

[@rickclark865]

My biggest pet peeve are people who ask “ are you working hard or hardly working” like you should not be working hard at your job. I agreed to work hard when I took the job.

[@boggy7665]

If you knock yourself out for many years & get no reward in the form of substantial raises or promotion, you'll learn to not try so hard.

[@CheZfrmdaWestWisc]

Right , so you can't get mad when nobody wants to agree to take the jobs If the deal is we're gonna work, you like a dog and not pay you accordingly. No reasonable person would want that deal.

[@niceguydmm]

I like working at home. Best thing that ever happen to me! Don't risk death commuting with fools. Get more work done. Feel better! Our remote team is out working the in office teams! To much BS in the office. People make up crap to meet and half sleep in cubes. Been working full time since 16 and I'm 57 with a 2 year degree making 120K. at HOME! I like it.... Dave is a smart man. He has the remote thing wrong when he assumes people are not working. Its personal with him. I agree with 90% of what he says!

[@michele5695]

@ David Martin What do you do for a living?

[@niceguydmm]

@@michele5695 IT Engineer

[@dianecelento4974]

That's great.

[@danielfarmer4311]

Is your company hiring? I’m in the IT space looking for a work for home office position? Thanks 🙏

[@Saidahshesaid]

I agree. Remote work suits me much better than office drama. I work just as much and am more productive not wasting brain power on things unrelated to getting my job done. I don’t get why Ramsey gets so down on it.

[@kjf4670]

This is one of the best conversations I've listened to in a long time. I have two young children, and I'm having issues trying to get them to do difficult things.

[@maciekkra539]

Next time they ask for something tell them how difficult it is.

[@richguy011]

Man...Dave Ramsey is just so divorced from reality. They are saying there is a "comfort crises" and blame the workers for not working hard enough or working at all. I've worked places were they say they will do pay raises or empty promises of advancement only to see layoffs or more empty promises. I think that workers are just getting more fed up with empty promises and saying 'If you want me to work for you, you have to make it worth it to me NOW, not pretending that it will be worth it later down the road cause that will most likely just be another lie.' The only people who I think should take their advice is if you are the owner of your own business because only then do you get the profit of all the labor you put in.

[@jackdeniston59]

There is a management crises.

[@henryhill3778]

This is Right on! Thank YOU !

[@juniper-ug3hs]

Two things can be true at once. Yes, terrible businesses exist and management may have unrealistic expectations. Also, we can be in comfort crisis and have a surplus of lazy workers. Both can be, and in my opinion are true. Whether, you work for a good company or bad one, it still is a good idea to take pride in your work and strive for improvment. It doesn't mean you should stick your neck out for a company that doesn't support you. But when I worked for terrible companies, I stuck it out and gained experience so that I could then apply for other positions where I was happier.

[@bgbgbg123]

​@Juniper The problem is most companies are this way. Look at all the "good companies" in big tech laying off thousands of people. People strived for years to work at say Google (or a plethora of others) and gave years of their life only to be laid off in an email.

[@Rbj4525]

I passed local 3 exam by the hair on my chiny chin chin. I heard about the test late. Didn't get to study and prepare. Sat in a room where I stood on my own two feet while they were other candidates whose fathers place thier hand on their son's shoulders. I went on to the interview with 4 Master Electricians. One recognized the company I worked low voltage ⚡️ with and told them the men in my family were all construction workers Local 731. I expressed my interest and excitement about being in the trades and energy, electricity particularly. I told them ad a kind I was intrigued to know how things worked? I was given a small screwdriver 🪛 set by my father. I would take apart my toys to see how they work. One of them asked if I put them back together? I said, "No." He replied,"Laborer." In such a derogatory way. But I continued the interview. I walked away with thought that he looked down on my father, my grandfather, my uncles. Who were UNION! Laborers. Like they don't contribute greatly to a build project. And the fact that I attempted to join his trade. His union is absurd , and as a 6-year-old, I couldn't put my electronic toy back together. I shouldn't aim to become a electrician? To change my family trajectory? I was 39-40 married with kids at the time. I could have really used that opportunity. I was ready and able to put in the hard work, to study and deal with the Hazing BS. To support my family. That interview stays with me, "To this day!" How many have been turned away from a Trade or other vocation by Gatekeepers(I'll just call it that). So don't talk about work and lack of people wanting to work. When all worker's are not welcomed to work if they are "non-traditional." Kick Rocks

[@petercook3143]

My Son is sitting here, 24 years old. He tried WalMart, Tractor Supply for a few weeks and just had zero tolerance for the disrespect. At Walmart the managers follow you around and tell you to work faster. He started the process of applying at AutoZone with a Job Description on their site. We later found out a JD from Indeed for the Jobs. Turns out they want everyone there to clean the toilet and pickup the parking lot, NOT. We have had a shop now for a year, and we bill out at 58 dollars perhour which is a bargain for Automotive work. Sorry Walmart, Autozone, and Tractor Supply, you had your chance.

[@davidb2206]

So why not work faster? Also, the founder of McDonald's used to clean the toilets in his early stores. So what? Get over your arrogance and do what the employer (and customers) want done, not what you want to do.

[@westernpink]

Entrepreneurship is the way to go. Good job for making it happen for you and your son. 👏🏼

[@mrwednesdaynight]

​@@davidb2206let the CEO put out his cigar, put down his golf clubs, and let him clean the toilet if he is worth billions a year.

[@EarlHayward]

So, your son is too good to clean a bathroom and pickup trash?

[@michaellowe8286]

I started to listening to Dave’s show back in the vet early 90’s really didn’t start to understand how to get out of debt that good but worked very hard at it, it wasn’t until around 2009 I was finally out of debt with a paid off house have never been in debt since and love it I had a very hard live and worked darn hard but live happens and took me down many many times, the problem I see now days the younger generation doesn’t see how working hard will get you anywhere but it will you get beat down we’ll just get back up and try again that’s my model period

[@yepyep6916]

It’s always a one way conversation with business. It’s always work more. When a company has their workers putting in 50-60hrs/week with record profits, they will never say work a little less.

[@brob-zy8zi]

I've worked in a variety of jobs. Delivery Helper, retail management, retail sales, truck driver, hydraulic fracturing.... The very most rewarding job I've had was working for one particular hydraulic fracturing company. I put a ton of hours in there. We worked hard and had an excellent crew comprised of people from all over the world. We worked 14 days on and got 6 days off. We typically had a 14 to 15 hour day. I was well respected on my crew. One night an incident happened. Nothing that my actions or inactions could have caused or prevented. I was simply primarily involved. There were witnesses and written statements relieving me of any responsibility. Within 2 days I was fired. From a nearly $110k job to unemployment. That hit me hard. I was very much affected by this. But, within three days I had an interview at another fracturing company. Since I've started there I've seen several layoffs directly linked to stupidity in management. I've been injured. I've watched cocky, arrogant and terribly stupid management make one decision after another to directly benefit them whether it negatively affected employees or not. I've watched them drive the company into the ground and watched people suffer because of it. I'm currently looking for another job. But, I can't say my experiences with these two jobs, along with the dumb, asinine decisions I've seen with other employers hasn't left me jaded. Honestly, I don't want to work for someone else anymore. Often times management are low IQ, morally bankrupt, greedy as$holes so full of themselves they barely have enough room to breathe. Not mid management, but upper management. Now, my number one priority is my family and the quality of time with them. If an employer doesn't like that, too bad. I've been let go before, I didn't die. I've saved enough to give me a nice, comfy pad against that issue.

[@Brynnleigh7]

Most people in these comments did not listen to this whole thing and it is evident. You guys called leaders to a much higher standard and coached on how to truly care about their employees. Thank you

[@michellerogers5783]

So much wisdom here. On the flip side (maybe this will come up since I'm only half way through the broadcast), many "essential" workers have also been taken advantage of due to their willingness to go so many extra miles they are burned out, or their profession has become villianized. Such a difficult cultural time. So much more to that conversation, but a point to consider.

[@bgbgbg123]

I think that's a worse problem honestly. The "non essential" workers who weren't allowed to work were mainly people like restaurant and certain retail workers. These folks got generous unemployment benefits for the weeks they didn't work and if their employer didn't reopen, there were and are a plethora of jobs in those industries from the companies that remain. The "nonessential" white collar workers worked remotely and many still do. But the essential workers in many trades, healthcare etc. continued working like normal at great personal risk and didn't get much extra for it. Now they're burnout and the labor crisis is exacerbated.

[@KovalMichael]

My Pastor always said that self esteem is a selfish way of looking at your value / worth. When you develop a God Esteem then you understand the value / worth that God places on you. This allowsb you not to be so consumer minded but to give him the glory in all you do. Work hard, speak truthful, accept responsibility and bare the suffering of life and in that you'll find purpose, peace and exactly what you need for this life!

[@Black_Wolf_XY]

They understand supply and demand, when it comes to selling their products, but are completely lost on the same idea, when it comes to how to attract and retain workers.

[@nuiben7579]

They don't care, worker retention and satisfaction are not line items on the income statements so it doesn't matter nor does make it make its way through the chain of command. Only when Unions form, bargain for contracts, and drive costs up do shareholders start noticing that their organization has employees with names and faces.

[@wayneroberts6642]

Absolutely, it's time for demand side (wages). They struggle with that.😂

[@edenallday4247]

My husband has been trying to talk to mike because he teaches a natural gas compression program at a PA trade school called CPI. He teaches a 2 year program on how to work on natural gas compressors and engines. It includes an associates degree, a paid internship, certifications from catapillar and Ariel and he currently has 100% job placement because the demand is so high. It only cost 35k for the entire program which is less than a year of college. We need to show our kids a better path. These kids are make $$$ in the field. Most of them pay their way as they go and do not have outstanding debt either. He’s really passionate not just about his program but the industry as a whole and promoting trades.

[@DSGLABEL]

$35k sounds very expensive still.

[@edenallday4247]

@@DSGLABEL I wish it were. Unfortunately that will still only get most kids a single semester in a 4 year program. Most trade schools even cost twice that for a 2 year. It’s unfortunate that education cost so much to begin with but this is a better option than being 100k in debt with a unless 4 year degree that now means very little. Most of his students don’t even have debt because they are able to hold jobs while going to school and make payments. Plus as I said the internship between semesters is paid. His kids graduate with 100% job placement because the industry is booming. Most of his students are making 80-110k per year as 20-22 year olds. Sorry very passionate about trades as an alternative option and unfortunately college and even other trade programs are shockingly expensive today. And his is actually the only in the country where you get the certifications from CAT and Ariel that employers are begging for. There’s a completing trade school close to him that charges 50k and offers none of that.

[@salemdesigns65]

@@DSGLABEL Not at all. The full amount of the Pell grant for 2 years can damn near cover the whole tuition cost...and a paid internship secures it all.

[@edenallday4247]

@@salemdesigns65 he has had several students use grants and even the Mike Rowe scholarship. Excellent point.

[@salemdesigns65]

@@edenallday4247 You'd be surprised how many people DO NOT apply for the Pell grant. It's shocking.

[@dannywalker1635]

Minimum wage in Florida is now $11 an hour and it will go up to $12 on Sept 30 of this year. For many years the employers here were paying from $8 to $10. And now since they have to pay higher wages they just do not hire as many people. This equates to terrible customer service and many times to shutdowns when several people are absent. But of course when these employers tell their side of the story it is that they cannot hire people to do the job or that people don't want to work.

[@Andrew-3445]

Minimum wage is Mass is $15/hr, they just pass it on with higher prices to customers.

[@lrobie123]

Listened to this podcast youtube video when on a roadtrip to a college graduation. Ken Coleman hit a homerun on his comments and they are baseline foundation comments about a generation that are on par. Thanks much for putting together this conference. Almost went to school to be an electrician but was pushed over to going to college many years ago. To this day, still working on engineering projects that involve electrical wiring designs and implementation

[@riku3716]

It is not quiet quiting, it is doing what you were hired and are paid to do during the time you were hired and are paid to work. Anything more would be giving free labour and that should only happen in charity work.

[@ChrisHarperKC]

This isn't the fault of labor or ownership. The fiat currency debt based system has reached diminishing returns. Both labor and ownership will have to agree to accept far less going forward. You can thank central banking for this privilege.

[@DiabeticDawg]

Central banking is one of the primary reasons these situations of destitution occur.

[@OpenBlank4723]

People have stop working for unappreciated people

[@elainenilsson5472]

Why would anyone work. When you figure half the population is divorced and broke, going into hawk with credit cards, they have no reason to aspire to a higher level. They are beat before they start and the days of climbing the ladder are over. If you want to get ahead, you have to leave the company you're at and go somewhere else.

[@davidb2206]

Don't forget that, for the first time in history, over HALF of all U.S. adults are not working and over HALF are not married. It's a disaster.

[@AnimalMother60]

I work with surgeons and, while some are pleasant to work with, I’ve found most aren’t. Some are just focused on their work, which I can respect, but too many just seem to be entitled or want to make people miserable. I’m not a complainer and take on the tasks at work nobody else wants. It’s been noticed and appreciated by leadership and coworkers in every place I’ve been, but I recently noticed it has really taken a huge toll on my mental health and I’ve got a hair trigger. I’ve been looking for the exit and just glad I’ve set myself up financially to possibly leave the workforce for good before 40.

[@gaylenehenderson9275]

I am a state and nationally certified pharmacy technician and carry a credential on my license. I did not attend college. I was given an opportunity 15 years ago to learn this trade hands on. I studied and learned, and continue to learn as the role of pharmacy is changing rapidly. It was a way to get myself into healthcare without having to spend 6-10 years in college. I love my job. Yes, it has its challenges but overall it is a promising career choice for the right people. This career does need a commitment though as once you get your license, you must take continuing education courses to maintain your license. I work for an independent pharmacy in my small rural town and wouldn't trade it for the world. Hard work got me here. Harder work keeps me here.

[@skyliekline2688]

I have listened to each of these guys individually for years, I never imagined they would get together to have this conversation. As a mother raising three children, a business owner, a wife. Trying to find her way in life. These men are wonderful at getting us to think, to act and to do. Great work here. Thank you for sharing. ❤

[@titolovely8237]

it's really more about the exponential amount of work increase for linear pay increases in conjunction with the low wages relative to cost of living. stagnant wages have been so extreme in many sectors that you'd have to earn nearly double what you do now to make what someone did in the 1960s doing that same job, relative to buying power. on top of that, every raise ive gotten has come with around 20-30% more work/responsibility for like 5-10% increase in wages. you end up earning 40% more than your coworkers and doing 3x the work. it's not sustainable or worth it. the other part of it is being required to supervise untrained workers who dont care. HR fails miserably at hiring new candidates, and you're expected to train a bunch of new hires with no experience who dont care. in non degreed fields it also means that you get alot of people who cant remember anything and usually have learning disorders, and yet you as an experienced person are told you're responsible for them as well as training them, but your normal job duties dont decrease and you usually dont get a pay increase. so you end up training an idiot, doing your job, and being berated for others mistakes for no or very little pay increases all while someone else gets rich off it. it's discouraging, especially for someone that does try and holds themselves to a high standard, and you feel used because, well you are being exploited. the las and most frustrating thing ive found personally is finding a new job is stupidly labor intensive. just to get a job in a field you're an expert in has become a second job. between 3-5 phone interviews, online job boards, multiple back and forth about pay negotiations, and in person interviews that usually include some form of travelling, just finding a new job can cost me 50-100 hours of my off time as well as upwards of $400. it's become extremely difficult to find a new job when you're currently working, so alot of people get stuck at jobs they hate but cant quit because they havent found something else. this leads to ngaf and ultra burnout that does translate to people just dropping out of the labor force altogether.

[@tracythomas1588]

Excellent! Thank you for organizing this and making it available via Livestream!

[@reallyemptypockets6509]

In 2001 I quit my delivery driver job at 14 hr, started as a detention officer at 14 hr, retired in 2021 at 29 hr. My delivery driver job was still paying 15 hr. My house in 2001 was 180k, in 2021 it was 400k.

[@BirdDogey1]

Truth

[@dianecelento4974]

Wow! Those numbers say it all.

[@christeldinkler6736]

Not sure how will be taken, but speaking of hard workers, our roofers got here at 7:30 and they will work until around 6 (with a short lunch) and they drove over an hour to get here. The company they work for says they are a great crew and work really hard and I can see that. These 5 guys are Hispanic.

[@kabloosh699]

You got football players landing several hundred million dollar contracts these days when 30 years ago your top athletes were bringing in a few million over the course of their careers. Wages for your normal jobs haven't seen nearly the rise. Wages in fact have been rather stagnant since the early 80s and it wasn't until COVID did we see a spike of where you may be earning 15 dollars an hour often times in areas where you really need to be earning 60-70k a year to live a decently comfortably lifestyle. I think this is a multifaceted issue where we've seen since the 60s an ever so increasing gap between the majority and the few super elite wealthy how have managed to increase their wealth several magnitudes over. Two major things I think helped keep regular job wages stagnant is due to one, the big push for women into the workforce. This has essentially doubled the employee pool for employers to hire from, and while in the past you could raise a family off of a single income that is not true anymore. Most people need both parents to be in the work force in order to really live "comfortably" within the US these days. Yeah you could potentially get by with one person making 50-60k but you'll need to be very budget minded especially if you ever want to build up a nest egg to retire. The second thing is we live in a global market. Many jobs have been outsourced to foreign nations where it is cheaper to pay 10 Indians or Chinese folks to do the job that would cost to pay for one American employee. I think we are on the cusp of a worker's revolution. Most people do want to work, but they aren't going to subject themselves to 60 hour work weeks breaking their backs while their employers are enjoying all the profit. I will say I do not think this is because of small businesses. They aren't usually the ones paying their CEOs and owners several million a year. I'm talking more about publicly traded multinational corporations that have tens of thousands of people working for them. These companies have all the leverage in the world while small businesses can't really compete due to how expensive it is to pay people, and their benefits. I think one thing that could potentially help this along is decouple health insurance from your employer. Large companies have leverage over small businesses by being able to negotiate cheaper deals with insurance companies while small businesses have much small employee pools and don't have that luxury. You also won't get nearly as much choice in the available plans working for a small business. So a fix for this is that health insurance should only be offered and purchased by individuals and their families and it cannot be a benefit offered for employment. This would give workers more flexibility and force health insurance providers to cater their products to where an individual can afford because in the back end while you may be paying for a portion of the premiums your employer pays the bulk of that. At times your employer pays more in health benefits than your actual salary.

[@davidb2206]

Only because of the debased fools of the American public who buy the tickets and support the sponsors of "pro" sports. I don't.

[@Aircalibur]

Sports and Hollywood and such pay well precisely because we live in this culture of sitting around while mindlessly consuming entertainment. To put it plainly, the money is huge in Hollywood and sports because millions or even billions of people consume their products eagerly, while the people who need a plumber in or around Boston are significantly fewer in number.

[@Moogiereads]

Outsourcing jobs to other countries, demonizing labor unions, replacing entry level jobs with automation, CEO's "earning" 1500 times the pay of line workers.... These things destroy opportunity and create despair.

[@Ink30]

Facts 💯

[@mrwednesdaynight]

I had a union job once. They didn't do shit for us. All my dues money did was pay for daily fast food for the president of the union and end up in the pocket of the Democrat party. Why should I be forced to donate to a party that hates my guts?

[@mihy26]

Welders. I just finished a 2 week-long plant maintenance shutdown here in Alberta, Canada. There were 4 rig welders (self-employed) that I got to know (they have their own truck mounted welding machines) They were doing 12 hour days - and their rates varied from $110 - $130 per hour; I saw the invoices

[@davidb2206]

@2nd Place Since 1865 Are you kidding and delusional? Have you HIRED any of them? It's because nearly ALL of them are NOT VERY GOOD when they start, first hired.

[@davidb2206]

@2nd Place Since 1865 That's why they fully deserve and get lower pay. That's the way it works. And, by the way, nobody is obligated to train you in a free country. It's up to you. Why not mow lawns at 12 like I did and pay for your OWN advanced training? That's the way a free market works.

[@davidb2206]

@2nd Place Since 1865 So, go out and those skills, 17-year olds. Pay for them or apprentice for free. Nothing is stopping you.

[@mrwednesdaynight]

The problem is, in Canada, the tax rates are 80% and you have to live under the thumb of Trudeau. You're not allowed to have a single independent thought that is not in line with Trudeau or your off the the Tribunals and death camps can't be far behind.

[@SauerkrautX]

@@davidb2206this boomer thinks apprentices in 2024 are a good thing. Lmao you couldn’t be more out of touch. You do realize what they do to apprentices when they’re done with them, right?

[@djband3679]

I did not attend University instead I read a lot on my weekends and it really helped me. Reading and writing is so important and doing it daily will elevate your life in incredible ways. Even just a page a day. Do not feel you need to attend some expensive boring university to develop a powerful mind.

[@bashirauwal5825]

It should be "people don't want to be slaves anymore! " instead of "people don't want to work anymore " Many people particularly the younger generation, use the range of unconventional methods of earning a living these days. I worked in the retail for over 10 years, so I'm quite happy that this is taking place. For too long, retail bullied me and a lot of my employees/colleagues saying things like " if you don't like it, go; another like you is waiting to get in your position" since the COVID, I found a job that helps me grow, pays me more and Values Me Social Media cleared the way for a rapidly expanding market, and it taught us a lot. 2020 was my turning point, and investment helped alot!

[@bashirauwal5825]

Yeah the 2020 pandemic gave everyone a big rethink! I tried a lot of things I realized I shouldn't just let my savings sit around in the bank, try side hustles. It paid!

[@coinbureau6317]

Having to spend time with family, that's the real MVP! 🏆 Time is your major asset as a human but these corporation try to steal it sadly

[@bashirauwal5825]

​@Olivia Jayden there's various profitable ways to invest. Starting out you need to work with experienced hands to work you through. As a rookie I dabbled in and made mistakes till I got a mentor to put me on the right track. You can search one too, read books and do your own research

[@bashirauwal5825]

Yes! Rachel Blanc. I really recommend her services because she has amazing competence and a calm approach to guiding you. I can attest to her credibility try and do your own due diligence

[@bashirauwal5825]

Growwealthywithrachel

[@Godblesstaiwan2025]

I ADORE all the speaker !! Following Dave Ramsey baby steps is one of the best thing happened in my life !! 😊👍👍👍👍👍

[@Jane5720]

Dave never misses an opportunity to toot his horn about his show, his real estate, his publishing company, you get the idea

[@losmalqueridos2009]

He's all ego & his followers whorship him for it. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@danielfarmer4311]

High horse Ramsey

[@chrisdawson3859]

Oh.mmyou mean his list of successes? Isn't that the point? We all want to succeed and the best way is to learn from others. Sounds like y'all are jealous. 🤔

[@firefly9838]

Sign of a man who has all the money in the world and can't find peace. Always has to be selling something. Making another buck. He will never be happy.

[@joseluna5934]

@@chrisdawson3859 agreed

[@carbonvette]

I'm 32 years old, debt free, drive a 23 Camry, a Corvette, a turbo scion, a Yamaha R6, and a 74 Honda. I own my 4 bedroom home and vacation 5 times a year. I'm an automotive technician. I'm 15 years ahead of my peers 💪

[@Andrew-3445]

Meanwhile the 32 year old victim liberals with the Liberal Arts degree complaining about capitalism while working at Starbucks. Life is what you make of it.

[@tubalcain6874]

I’m 65, I’m a metallurgist by trade, and I work in industrial sales. I get a regular earful of unsolicited complaints from my accounts that “nobody wants to work anymore”. Most of my accounts act like street hoodlums (and for that matter, just about all of my employers have acted this way). Frankly, I wouldn’t work for most of my accounts if you held a gun to my head. That being said, it’s very apparent why most of my accounts can’t find or retain workers.

[@jeffmartin1438]

Companys that pay really well and provide great health have all the employees they need, real simple.

[@anniealexander3402]

Employers treat employees like chit. I'm employed and I never know if my work night will be good or bad. If management is gone and I can do my work in peace, it's a good night. Sometimes I go into work and it's a total Fitch fest.

[@edjarrett3164]

This video outlines the employment crisis and how you employ and keep people. These techniques have been successful in our resort business.

[@kampdavies]

Always taken pride in being the hardest worker wear i am. It for me not for anyone else and to help the team out. this is a great show

[@GuruChaz]

I understand Dave's philosophy of "this is how WE (as a company) do things". If you don't do it then you're out. Do you also think companies need to have some sort of orientation training for some of these kids who don't understand what kind of work day is expected of them and just the basics like the pastor was talking about training on? It's easy to not look for a job and it's easy to throw some of these people away but it's more advantageous training those who want to be trained. I grew up in the 70s and 80s and in many cases, I wish I could have watched this seminar even back then. It would have been of great help. Thank goodness my gaming took me on a somewhat successful I.T. career path. Whew! But I made the internal choice to want to do something else with my life. You have to want it.

[@nathanpeacock9978]

Some people ask how people survive without a job. Look around, the paradigm has changed. The American dream is no longer working 60 hours a week to have a mcmansion, nice cars, 2.2 kids and a dog. The dream turned into a nightmare, especially in the last few years. Make no mistake, young people are smart, they know bondage when they see it. There has been a shift in the way people, especially young people, live. Go by your local Walmart or Cracker Barrel late at night and looks at all the cars and vans parked in the fringes of the parking lot. These are working nomads, living in their vehicles. Stealth vehicles on the outside, but many are luxurious on the inside, with full kitchens and bathrooms. They have no rent payments or mortgages, no property taxes or home maintenance expenses. They live well, with $20 per month gym memberships that provide showers and hygiene services as well as fitness equipment and indoor heated swimming pools. Most work low stress jobs 30 hrs per week at $15-16 per hour. They don't need more money, they have plenty for their lifestyle. Being mobile provides all the freedom of a nomadic lifestyle without the encumbrance and trappings of material possessions. They aren't afraid to work, they have just figured out that the game is rigged, and not in their favor. This is the new America.

[@sarahshanahan2222]

This is facinating... are there statistics to support the prevalence of this?

[@nathanpeacock9978]

@@sarahshanahan2222I don't have actual statistics. I live in a large city. I am an eyewitness to the nomadic movement. I also have a YMCA membership at my local Y. People who live in their vehicles come in all the time to work out and clean up.

[@TheCbone1979]

Probably the best of all the comments I’ve read, even if it’s anecdotal.

[@christiansmith-of7dt]

It feels like everyday I'm fighting the same car accident I was in at 10 years old , it never goes away

[@bootsandladders]

The world still needs essential service workers. Instead of fighting the rise of self-unemployment, let's support service workers in starting their own businesses. Our solution is to help bring in new field workers and assist them in launching their services within our business engine. Thank you for this event.

[@vaportrails7943]

I'll say it again, simpler and louder: it's employers who have been coddled and spoiled, by decades of outsourcing and immigration to drive down wages through the 21st century slavery of cheap foreign labor. The overwhelming majority of unfilled jobs are menial, minimum wage jobs, and these employers are mad that they can't get enough people to take them. The tough love needed in this situation is telling employers that they need to hire Americans and pay them more, and if they think their bottom line can't handle it, they need to cut their own salary and/or go out of business, because their business is not viable if they have to demand "hard work" from people who aren't being paid anything close to what somebody can live on. "Why isn't this guy breaking his neck for me at $13/h so I can spend two months a year in Aruba? What a spoiled baby!" Yeah.

[@Andrew-3445]

I know in my state (Mass) the minimum wage is $15/hr but the market minimum wage is about $20/hr. Even fast food places offer that to start because there is so much competition for labor. Problem is, it is the most expensive state to rent an apartment in the country. Even $20/hr is basically poverty wages here. The cost of living is just too high and that is the issue around the country. In order to afford a typical 1 bedroom apartment, someone would have to make about $5,500 a month. $20/hr for a full time month is about $3,600. That's almost $2k a month short to get approved for a typical apartment (rule of thumb is make 3x the rent).

[@juniorpalomera-garcia7448]

Im a Framer, I build houses… Resedential, I love it, Stay healthy, Nice and Tanned, Veiny Arms, Good pay, You can make over 100k a year as a carpenter, But the trade is hard to learn and do both physically and mentally, Great career other than that

[@donaldcomer7417]

As a older man i can tell you the older you get the harder it is to find some jobs. Your younger years make it for your future. Very few young people plan for there future and then you will wake up and find out your too old and dont have anything to show for it.

[@jonathanfarber]

I have just discovered this thanks to some guy posting an audio excerpt of it whilst he was doing some plumbing. I'll be honest I found the absolute reality of the discussions deeply and emotionally troubling as It was impossible not to agree with everything that is said here. Work & Labour shortage is a global problem mainly for the developed west and is the same in the UK. I visited a school recently for work purposes and was startled to be told that many kids needed a special bus and member of staff to pick them off from home and get them to school JUST to do end of year exams. The apathy in the UK is so crushingly low and almost unfixable that for me, it is a major cause for alarm and how the economy is to survive is beyond me

[@thesunandthemoon1]

This was awesome!!! Loved seeing Dave Ramsey, Mike Rowe, and Dr. D on a stage together. Inspiring and informative content! Please do more events like this in the future! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@mountaineerhideaway]

I have enjoyed listening to Dave and watching Mike forever. Dave gave me great advice and motivation to get out of debt. The speakers of this conference (especially Dave and Mike) are rich by their own hands. A great work ethic, some good life choices, and luck has given them a platform. They are the exception preaching to those of us whom are not the anomaly. The reality is a small portion of the US society actually achieve debt freedom and good jobs that compensate every individual fairly. The overwhelming majority of employers view employees as an expense and treat them as such. No matter ability or education they are viewed as an expense and not an asset. Dave has a ton of negative press exposing some of his hiring and firing decisions. He is no different than any of the other businesses. Those individuals he fired are an expense that could damage his brand. Never and I mean never be loyal to any job. Your family is your loyalty. Dave and Mike are now snake oil salesmen to me.

[@Lifeisshort2669]

Yeah so the younger generation figured it out. You have to open your own business. For example a hairdresser or plumber may work for themselves. Look at how many business applications have been opened over the last few years. I don't think all these people are sitting home doing nothing. Another thing was a bunch of people trading stocks but interest rate hikes may have stopped a lot of people from trading. So yeah it is hard to find workers when the industry profits mostly off of labor not a good because that person can work for themselves.