The REAL Story of the Desert in Ish's 1,000 Player Civilization

[@ish]

Hi everyone! I'm seeing a lot of people confused about a few things regarding my involvement in the plot of this event. I don't want anyone to walk away with an inaccurate impression, so let me tell you EXACTLY what happened to the desert plot: The reason I interfered in the desert war was NOT because it would be "too confusing" or "wouldn't be good for the story." In fact under normal circumstances, I would be VERY WILLING to let the war happen, as it would allow the desert militias (Emirate/Imamate) to get revenge against Theria, which would've been EPIC for plot development. The reason I had to interfere in THIS case was because the 1000 Player Civilization event was about to come to an end. If the desert war happened, there wouldn't be room to feature it in the video, and the desert storyline would've gone unresolved. It's as simple as that. I had decided to end the entire event with the Battle of Aculon because it was the largest conflict in the event, and I end all of my videos on a big climax. As soon as I saw that the Battle of Aculon was about to happen, I decided Day 10 would be the final day. The negative consequences of my decision to set the Aculon battle as the last event of the video is that a ton of smaller story lines, including the desert post-Sultan plotline, had to be stopped prematurely. No matter where I stopped the event, SOMEBODY'S storyline would be cut-off, and in this case it happened to be the desert-which is unfortunate, but it had to be done. Still, I spent many hours talking with desert leaders, going back and forth to discuss potential ways to still include them in the story, and eventually we reached a compromise. Theria would join the Allies, given their previous agreements with Plains, and the Imamate/Emirate nations would join Aculon, so they can complete their revenge arc against Theria. Nobody was completely satisfied, but it was the best compromise we could get, given the constraints. I'm really sympathetic to many desert peoples' grievances that they weren't able to complete their storyline in a natural manner. It sucks, and I fully understand why some of them were upset. But sometimes, these things have to happen in events of this magnitude. For the vast majority of the event, players and nations were free to do basically whatever they wanted-it was only toward the end when I had to reign in the chaos and ensure that we reached some sort of sound conclusion. EJK made a really funny and well produced video, but it also oversimplified why I got involved in the desert plot toward the end, and as a result, many people are walking away with the impression that my video was entirely staged and scripted. I hope that my explanation here clears things up. If you want more details about how I ran the event and made my video (including which parts were indeed real/reshot), I did a 3-hour live stream on my "ish 2" channel talking about the plot and explaining ALL of my decisions regarding this event. That all said, I wanna give a HUGE shoutout to EJK for providing a really great player perspective of a desert member. As EJK admits, it is a little biased toward the Emirate and Sultanate, but it still offers a bevy of extra information that I couldn't include in my video, and it proved that Theria weren't necessarily the "good guys" that they appeared to be in my video. Really good stuff - please show EJK some love!!

[@RAINPoliane]

L ish

[@Nopunsforyou]

M ish

[@EE3rd]

W ish?

[@EJK9000]

YEAH WHAT HE SAID. In all seriousness though, Ish did the best he could given the circumstances. I don't hold any ill will against him, and neither should you. It's impossible to cover all 1,000 players' views in a video like this, and some things are gonna get changed. There's plenty of stuff I left out in my video, even pertaining to the desert. So please, don't hate on Ish. We STAN ISH.

[@gdm1013]

could've done a part 1 and part 2 tho

[@masontyler1429]

Damn, I kinda want to hear all the island’s perspectives now. This is legit geopolitics

[@worldfacts5298]

Yeah ish didn’t want to include geopolitics and wanted to make it seem like a story anyone could listen to without actually hearing that much politics.

[@Deltasquad382943]

@@worldfacts5298You kinda have to briefly summarize the geopolitics for a massive video like that when there was already sooo much going on. It was already over an hour long

[@totallyinteresting68]

@@worldfacts5298to be fair to Ish, just this video explaining the geopolitics of a single nation within a single island took like 40+ minutes. Ish’s vid would have been extremely long

[@real.sugarcone]

I SERIOUSLY WANT THIS. I want a whole Netflix show about this experiment lmfao

[@Cactusgamer303]

There is one on the snow kingdom

[@raiden_from_metal_gear]

the one-block thick floor actually costed Elanuelo his life

[@kakerake6018]

who even builds a one block thick floor. what if they had vertical tnt cannons.

[@twoface9959]

I wonder who was the architect and the decision for making the floor as such.

[@venomx9973]

@@kakerake6018 honestly there were so much traps they could have done and the defenders advantage would have been huge, if it werent for the fact that their only line of defence was the shitty iron torch.

[@flying0possum]

​@@venomx9973 They had 2-3 hours to work on it

[@susanhanji1189]

​@@flying0possum but there were about 200 players

[@JustPineapple]

It’s scary how accurate that depiction of the Jungle was

[@Mel-tr3pp]

Where can I watch any jungle povs

[@Copperkaiju]

I actually thought over the lyrics to that song while watching Ish's video. Absolute chaos 😅

[@Castformsupremacy]

⁠@@Mel-tr3ppthere are literally no videos I could find from people in the jungle lol All I know is that the jungle is a chaotic mess and Wazzock actually work with Seth to kill multiple Sea People

[@joelanderson839]

This is so cool. I’m sure people have been doing this sort of thing for ages and I’m just now finding it, but I love this whole concept. Ish facilitates the “official story”, but also facilitates 1000 other unique stories. There could be thousands of hours of content based on this one event, and each story would be slightly different. As a viewer, it’s just a dream of super-immersive content. Fuck I love this idea

[@mrchief975]

That is why i think it should be turned into episodes so more can be told

[@randomhiphop5055]

it reminds me of game of thrones

[@EvoDeVeau]

Someone definitely should make a series out of it with seasons and perspectives from different civilizations. Games of thrones basically, but in minecraft.

[@harperreese264]

I love this video because it makes it feel more like a real history. In Ish's video, there is a clear dynamic of "the good guys" and "the bad guys", but this 45-minute masterstroke adds a layer of controversy and an alternative viewpoint to the matter that invests me deeply. Thank you, EJK, and long live the Emirate.

[@Britishdarnlib]

Yeah I was thinking Ish's story was a bit too good v bad. The only bad thing yhe allies did was 'continue to kill after Surrender' which is a bit

[@Crescent_x]

Ish's video was like history written by the winners.

[@akronarr]

​@@Crescent_x True

[@ArcAngle1117]

Now I want to see the Snow Nation's perspective

[@Telyema1]

@@Britishdarnlib but even that wasnt bad as the axis (ill just callim that) killed everyone that supported turkey simply because they supported the only guy who was able to create peace, they murdered him in cold blood simply because he wanted change, the sultanate was simply depicted as the bad guys because they wanted revenge but the people who wronged them were depicted as heroes against oppression, its like when a bully bullies a kid but because he only does it behind closed doors no one believes the victim and and treats the villain like a hero, in actuallity the sultanate likely wouldve been an ally if it wasnt that grudge against theria's façade that forced them to be depicted as war mongering

[@outlyingcrow9726]

Absolute banger. One thing to note is that I wasn't technically the Sultan's successor, that was Zaanga, who sought refuge in Aculon after the Sultan died. I was actually the decoy heir but I don't blame you for not knowing that because you weren't always high council.

[@EJK9000]

Yeah LMAO, the secret was so well kept even I didn't know until well into the production of this video, at which point I couldn't be bothered to fix it since it didn't change the plot much. Plus, you made a better right hand man anyway since you at least stayed in the desert instead of fleeing to Aculon.

[@outlyingcrow9726]

@@EJK9000 I guess I'll write my full account for the sake of documenting for anyone reading this. I also fled immediately after the assasination due to the heavy uncertainty but I still came back after a short period. This probably ended up being a wise move not for the reason I thought it would (being hunted by Theria/Zombta) but because one of our former members (a squeaker) went on a PvP killing spree in our territory close to where I was, citing his reason as being jealous of the amount of kills other people were getting. (He was ofc later removed from the event for that). Anyway my reasoning for not taking the title of Sultan as third in command was that I felt the whole Sultanate name had enough stigma around it and conjured too much soy rage by those who misunderstood or didn’t like us, and taking that helm would put a persistent target on my back which would probably undermine the stability of the nation and therefore any of our building goals. Zombta's own stated reason for killing the Sultan was that with the Sultanate as the most powerful nation the whole island felt uneased because we always hunted down anyone who plotted against us, so no Sultan = no opposition to the Sultan = no Sultan assasination attempts = peace in the desert. I guess if I remained Sultan that percieved tension would still be there. Of course this is all still cowardice because when I fled, I didn’t know if I would come back. (I went to Aculon, which I dont remember much of due to lagging incomprehensibly, but I had also planned to visit other nations like Seth's in the jungle). So i dont consider Zaanga's backing out as any better than mine. What would drive me to return was the conviction of Weedy and the Imamate (the "die hards" I reffered to in the announcement you showed in the video), which succeeded for our building + revenge goals in the end.

[@RexMan04]

omg crow

[@outlyingcrow9726]

@@RexMan04 omg rex

[@Rei.Akira1]

​@@EJK9000 hello 😊 ! Sorry but what is the sound at 34:55 ? It is not on descritpion (the "PAINT THE YELLOW SANDS RED" moment 😂)

[@OldManShane]

I loved Ish's storyline, but it felt very much like a big screen Hollywood movie in a way. Your behind-the-scenes look at stuff was fascinating. Both videos were entertaining for different reasons. Liked and subbed.

[@spongytrout7462]

This event is like revisionist history but cool

[@whatdawhatgaming]

Same, instantly liked and subbed

[@Ballsackgamin]

Now I want see what happened in other nations, especially jungle with Wazzock

[@Lemantra]

​@@spongytrout7462 History is written by the winners of wars

[@liorashiri6036]

Same here

[@mr.verybat6951]

The section where you introduce 'the jungle' is pure gold, it perfectly captures what went on there in a few seconds.

[@bealu9459]

i need to see a video like this one but about the jungle

[@unnecessaryoccupation3115]

the ohio of minecraft

[@parkeroof4705]

Which timelapse?

[@brfjhdcb]

Tbh, I viewed Sultinate as "villians" and Theria as "only hope" for desert. But now that I've seen story from other perspective and it's kinda changed my opinion. I've realised that neither side is good nor bad. Great video btw👍

[@herzkine]

If just more Serbians realized before their slaughter spree over the Balkans for " patriotism".

[@thundergamespt99]

And this is why we should never see someone/some group as inherently good or bad. People do good abd bad things, and groups are the same. Here we have a great example: yeah, the sultan was extremely authoritary and maybe too agressive, but he tried to make the desert a place with more justice and he helped a small nation who got fucked by a thieve that wouldve gone unpunished otherwise, he was stubborn about going to the wedding because he thought that this was important to those people (who, btw, were part of a small nation, he didnt need to do them anything. But he did). And for the other side this is also true. Yes, they ended tirany and tried to bring some piece for the desert, but (at least in the early days) they protected a criminal, fucking over a small country for no reason, and gave asylum to 2 traitors until the very end, even tho they knew that the other desert countries wanted them dead, at the pint of going to war just for that alone, and they were now 100% pacifists, so that wouldve been the best way to mantain the peace. (And we still have the no mercy thing at the end)

[@thundergamespt99]

@floron7777 well, not really. I watched the POV of a guy that got his small clan completely destroyed because of a joke, and thats absolutely not a good thing

[@srdjandakulovic6052]

didn't expect a fellow serb here, but i guess we as a people are more open to hearing both sides of the argument

[@katm8128]

@@srdjandakulovic6052half russian half serb here

[@ish]

I will 3 star you.

[@EJK9000]

Better do it soon! I'm upgrading to Town Hall 15 very soon, at which point I will be IMPOSSIBLE to 3 star. Well, at least to a gemmer like you!

[@Sandato2]

How about you 6 star the builder base instead ish

[@Namm7777]

spicy

[@UrodCyka]

MEGA CAP

[@marafty3776]

What does that mean

[@saltyshack9834]

You forgot the part that when the sultanate was asleep, Zaanga decided to destroy a small group of people that were rumored to be assassins that plotted to kill the sultanate, which was totally false as we were planning to become a refugee camp for those lost. Long live Survivor’s port, long live NDA.

[@EJK9000]

OOP. Well to be fair, this WAS from the Emirate's point of view, and we didn't really know about that. RIP

[@QuinoaFalafel]

Long live the NDA!

[@raiden_from_metal_gear]

bro i was watching that part in ish's video and i was just saying over and over "but they're wearing iron armor tho?? what kind of assassins wear iron armor and don't fight back?"

[@herzkine]

You have to get rid of the ones closest to gain ultimate power, night of the long knives...after it you decide if it was " wrong" accusations.

[@diurnalwinter945]

I was angry and saddened at the beginning when the thief was behaving the way he was and the damage he caused. Seeing you and your group suffer like that really had me cheering for you guys. Its ashame that there are such players that act in such a way.

[@herzkine]

Well that's actually the point of the whole thing, how do you behave in a world wolf against wolf and which society gives you the best compromise of safety and freedom.

[@Ren3gaid]

@@herzkine Nah that's just pathetic griefing because pvp was deactivated.

[@alalalalsekkeke]

while i love ish's story being poetic and theathrical, i love this so much simply because it was realistic and raw. ish's version is very historical fiction, history made into fictional stories like how the vikings were romanticized. your story feels like an actual history book.

[@vitriol9678]

Ish's video was like a historian retelling the tale, EJK's was a retired soldier telling people of his experiences in the front lines.

[@MrMegadipper]

Ish's is more of a "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" type Romanticized retelling of history. EJK is like, Ernst Junger "Storm of Steel."

[@TexYMatt98]

this is 10x more bias than ish retelling lmao, Idk how you mistake this to anything close to an actual history retelling.

[@brawler1031]

these alternate perspectives really supplement the main video and just pulls me deeper into the rabbithole, ive never been so invested in minecraft geopolitics. the emirates perspective has got to be my favorite arc, almost feels like DLC, super underrated. the final confrontation, seeing how things truly played out with davarit and zambta, and the final bitter resolution, so much rich storytelling that the main video doesn't even cover, what an absolute treat of a video!

[@tristanharvu665]

ish will surely give us a longer, more detailed and more hands-off video, maybe even series. I can not wait for the exact same reasons as you.

[@XXKING_]

It was a pleasure to work with such a based nation behind the scenes from the start of the event, to the tunnel operation, to avenging the Sultan. Glory to The emirate and Imamate!

[@Lemantra]

Based comment

[@fryreviews693]

GLORY TO THE EMIRATE

[@ForestTheOne]

ayyy it’s KING

[@execute6200]

Long live the Sultanate and Aculon

[@jethrotullz]

LEGEND

[@assistmans]

Ish’s video is like the hollywood adaptation while this is like the documentary it’s based off. The ending was tragic. A nation who simply got caught in the crossfire and suffered an immense, near meaningless loss.

[@ArcAngle1117]

Thank you for the being only one to not say Historian/History/ ect. Ish's video was the equivalent of the movie 300. Which isn't an insult just that it was a story with a specific narrative.

[@hexagon2185]

bruh it's only minecraft

[@filipedias7284]

Well they gоt thе guуs at least lel

[@Tsenq]

@@hexagon2185true but also a video that involved a fuck ton of people

[@gbhtrain1325]

Zombta: “I should’ve known the Sultan was plotting to take over.” EJK: “Zombta, Theria is evil!” Zombta: “From my point of view the Sultans are evil!” EJK: “Well then you are lost!” Seriously though, this was a fan tasting account of a story arc that was never eve;touched upon in Ish’s Hollywood drama. As they say in war: For every battle you hear about, there’s a dozen that you don’t.

[@ThatCatDiaz]

I just wish if this 1000 players event gets done once again, it lasts for at least 20 or 30 days. For real its really impressive to see large amounts of people work together or fight amongst each other, its almost like a series you get hooked lol

[@diztress]

Would be amazing but honestly the server would run out of members frankly fastly. Not like you can have more than 3 major conflicts without 8/10 of the server dying.

[@SEBithehiper945]

@@diztressmaybe have new members join every now and then to mimic people being born

[@EJK9000]

Ayo, peep the description if you've got questions about how Ish handled the event. We STAN Ish, he did the best he could in the situation he was in. Only send love his way!

[@theperson4yearsago565]

Dang

[@theperson4yearsago565]

W thief in the beginning

[@outlyingcrow9726]

Death to Theria

[@yakuzamiko8975]

​@@theperson4yearsago565😂

[@Alex-Nbs]

This really took a year to make?

[@liamfarrell2215]

It's so interesting to see individual story's that have diffrent angles and perspectives like how ishs video makes the sultanate to be the "bad guys" but here its reversed

[@yujinhikita5611]

well its the victors history that get told, you have to dig to see the reality. i mean the allies during ww2 weren't all angel good guys we were all assholes. ofc some were more asshole than others.

[@peytonalexander5300]

History is not written by the victors. It is written by those who write. Victors merely destroy the history they disagree with after the war is won.

[@marcopanzironi6612]

The Sultan wasn’t the monster he was depicted to be, but he was still a violent tyrant and got himself into this mess. Otherwise I can’t see why so many of those who were close to him, betrayed him

[@AppleF0rLife]

@@marcopanzironi6612 that was because davarit, the traitor was Zombta's brother, otherwise he wouldn't do that

[@Telyema1]

@@marcopanzironi6612 but he was only really made the mess he was depicted to be because of theria's malicious actions that invoked a a conflict

[@Artyom125]

When I was watching ish’s video I thought the desert nation was pretty much forgotten about after the assassination attempt as I don’t think we followed any of the new leaders after the old ones died. They seemed to just be treated as fodder for the final battle in the video. Which was a little disappointing considering they had the most interesting politics.

[@Ttegegg]

Well you can’t really make videos before he release it

[@spongytrout7462]

@@Ttegegg a bunch of people actually did, there’s videos of people in this from like 7 months ago

[@Ttegegg]

@@spongytrout7462 you know what. I might’ve mixed it with mrbeast rules. Idk been a while

[@Sug_madic69_420]

That Truly The Meaning Of War If u Watch From The other Side Desert Storm is An Evil But if u Watch From his Side, This Is.

[@Artyom125]

@@Ttegegg don’t think you understood what I said. Ish basically cut out a lot of the desert nation story arc. This video was dope but it would have been more dope if at least some of the stuff after the assassination was in ish’s video.

[@thaumaticpig]

Love the different perspective this video gives to things, showing the Sultanate as the nation that stood up for the little man was especially compelling. Considering that Ish makes a note of saying that the sides weren't as clear cut as they "seemed" at the end of his video, it's a shame that this perspective was completely ignored. It would probably have been better if Ish broke things up into something like three 45-minute episodes so he could give more time to the nuance and complexity this world had, but then again, this is a great example of history being written by the victors

[@unbearablysmug2437]

Eh keep in mind this guy is super bias against theria

[@vladivascanu108]

@@unbearablysmug2437 yeah. he only saw what a traitor which was executed did to them in the beginning

[@personpers6558]

The video itself took a year to make it would be way longer to split it into three parts

[@GDNashit]

"this is a great example of history being written by the victors" -A comment under a video of a minecraft war that took two weeks

[@Lemantra]

​@@unbearablysmug2437 If history is written by victors then you 2 are the people who believe such history

[@morrigancollins2092]

I love that the weapon that dealt the finishing blow to davarit was named The Sultan's Blessing

[@GunaMask]

downright poetic

[@SiymX]

it was so beautiful

[@derpymuffin02]

But didn't he die trying to kill storminghell? Then zombta killed him instead?

[@GunaMask]

@@derpymuffin02 that was explained in the video

[@Draezeth]

​@@GunaMaskI must have missed that. Timestamp?

[@xavi_6767]

Now Ish's story feels like Netflix warping reality

[@Sov.Beowulf]

The battle of the iron torch will forever be remembered as one of Aculon's greatest military disasters. Jokes aside, this such an amazing first hand witness account while Ish's video is very much like the history channel in its envision. I really like the dynamic between the two videos. Hopefully we get to see some other small creators come out with their own vids like the jungle tribes!

[@Holthis]

So did davarit not die like he did in the ish video? Was that made up?

[@phrank6608]

@@Holthis yes it was all theatrics in ish video

[@herzkine]

History Channel is a little harsh, were were the ancient aliens? :D

[@personwhorethinkslifechoic959]

I was in the battle and they fought better than us, we only won cause of numbers

[@vitalkin8839]

this is kinda interesting imo, ISH is like the historians recounting the event , and your (and other's ) videos are like the actual first hand accounts.

[@zeochrome]

Bronze age recounting type stuff fr

[@Lemantra]

​@@zeochrome Not even, most historians are biased upon their views on history

[@m1a2abrams50]

primary vs secondary sources

[@Davicky-jb2bv]

@@m1a2abrams50exactly what I was thinking

[@danentakoto2701]

Got the links to other perspectives?

[@japanadian862]

I really love how Ish's video feels like a history book telling history and all the big significant events. While videos like these make it feel like Biography's of their experiences giving light to smaller groups that were barely covered in the main video. It made this whole thing feel so much more real and i hope more people do this when taking part of Ish's videos. Its like uncovering more lore and gaining more perspective to other nations. Its so cool man. I also love how this video gave more light to the Sultanate. While watching Ish i rooted for Theria, but watching this made me think maybe i was rooting for the wrong side all along, and it made me realize everyone playing this game probably had history with other nations, giving them reason to join either sides. Thinking about that makes this whole event feel even cooler and just REAL to me, Like i would read about this in history books.

[@herzkine]

And thats why in real life you also should never trust one story but get as many sources as you can get and value it yourself. And thats not easy, because of course. Everyone always is the good guy for himself.

[@shadowofhawk55]

I wasn't rooting for Theria in his video, this doubly makes me not want to root for them. Idealism gets people killed, and Theria reeked of Idealism.

[@TheAFKShow]

Hey, your writing is nice, wanna join the Wiki team for this experiment?

[@rhaytham]

I always thought that it was weird, after watching Ish's video, that the Sultan would have supporters and even militias fighting for the him after his death. I had also noticed the wooden signs in the Sultan's grave which shows people's devastation and grief. This would not make sense if the Sultan was said to be an absolute monarch who punishes everyone who opposes him. Glad you shed light here on the precise accounts surrounding the Sultan's death where I, too, would mourn the Sultan as well. I like the new perspective and added layer of depth in the story, which shows that there are a lot of things happening in the background and things are not always as simple as they seem. Not just good vs bad, much like our world history. Thank you EJK9000 for the fantastic video and also being very entertaining to watch!

[@st0neofthebone]

This felt like a documentary vs Ish's video which felt like a Hollywood recreation of history

[@Tgungen]

It even has the historical revisionism, trying to make the whole thing a evil autocracy vs benevolent democracy story. Theria really didn't deserve the good light Ish put on them.

[@GhostX22774]

this is the best description of these 2 videos

[@shubhnamdeo2865]

Ender (the leader after Elanuelo and supporter of Turkey) also released Aculon's perspective, better check it out. And plains also had their perspective put in.

[@Boreal-cv3vk]

I love how the Emirates first “conflict” with Theria is just seeing that they exist. For real though, the beef between Emirates and Theria is absolutely legendary. Love y’all.

[@theomegapyrope9715]

how to not get kidnapped: just say no the emirate can't kidnap you without your consent

[@drittyy]

I like how none of us actually supported Aculon, we were just beefing with the other side. I was Dritty, second in Sea People, and we just wanted to kill Seth bcs they harbored Wazzock and other rude stuff. Ended up getting quite a few kills in the final battle but it didn't matter. We might've been able to win if everyone didn't panic and Aculon didn't "surrender," but that's what happens when you build a ONE BLOCK THICK FLOOR. Overall REALLY fun event though--wouldnt trade it for anything. Can't wait for the next one!

[@dragonspeaks7667]

Tbh if they ditched the arrow slits for an obsidian or any strong block as flooring it probably would have worked better. Also, i have a question, if a faction had declared war on another faction, would it be allowed for someone to lava cast the opposing base?

[@ExpensiveGun]

I was wondering what happened to the Sea People, because in the Ish video they, as well as the "Desert Militias" are never mentioned again after the Afreakingturkey arc picks up steam and the fourth act of the story gets railroaded towards the conflict in Aculon.

[@poopyfartboi]

Can someone explain the point of the lava roof? Seems to me like there isn’t any except to backfire

[@samuelwithers2221]

​@@poopyfartboi it was to prevent people enderpearling on top of it and breaking on, but it ended up being redundant since Ish disabled enderpearls anyway

[@neuswabian9442]

@@samuelwithers2221 That's "not scripted" and "organic". Ish, for any good he does, tampers with the material to have clean-cut answers then does damage control in the comments. No spine.

[@tiredidealist]

Honestly the rivalry between the desert nations is much more interesting than a world war over one nice player's death. I think Ish would have an easier time with his videos if he simply didn't try to make one cohesive plot and instead tried to focus on a few of the more interesting ones that happen naturally. Anything that gets left out can simply be made into separate videos. That'd probably even make these events more profitable.

[@Italsik]

Right I didn't knew the conflict and just watch video and I was really confused how it ended like that, ic now that there were manipulation going around.

[@dunamisd]

i think ish should have depicted the true death of davrit. the sultanate getting their revenge during the battle is actually a great side story arc ending. its weird that he made him out as dying during the assassination

[@daryncollins7640]

and how it was depicted the sultanate had no idea about the plot

[@zoogl]

and how zombta's death was totally faked in ish's video at 1:07:33

[@slayermcrx7519]

i wasnt in the event, but. DEATH TO THERIA This is what I wanted to see. The smaller nations stories who had conflict and tensions behind the scenes of the main conflict. The fact they forced you to participate in a war half way across the world, and result in losing all of your friends is sad. In the end, war nevet changes, and those who are in the losing side are left with nothing.

[@EJK9000]

To be clear, they didn't force us to participate in that war. I edited my description to give a better explanation as to what happened, because I saw Ish was getting some unwarranted flak.

[@TheLuuman]

@@EJK9000 In a way it seemed you kinda were, you're allied agreements caused you to basically conscript yourselves even if you went voluntarily.

[@herzkine]

The people actually fighting in modern " won" wars don't get much either but lost limbs, fecked up brains and cancer. In WWII the Germans at least had some good years with stockings, madame's and champagne in Paris.

[@24mb34]

@@TheLuuman Yeah but the alternative was that they don't even get a chance to get revenge on theria cuz remember? Ish was running out of time and decided that Day 10 was the final day but theria were not agreeing to a final battle with the sultanate ( cuz they were filthy COWARDS) so instead they had no choice take their battle to Aculon and finish there

[@NeoMatrix77777]

Glad that you made this, I was part of Aculon (I was a baron who joined elanuelo on the iron torch - survived the battle) and didn't go to the desert during the event until the post-story days so I wasn't super-aware of all the events that transpired.

[@the_best_username]

SAUL GOODMAN??

[@sketch_4966]

Sometimes history forgets the smaller people in the never ending grind of time. And there is no greater view of that point once in war. They were all victims, rest easy flappy Jacky

[@Orangelisted]

I remember when half the world thought the Sultan was slain by a Zombie and not Zombta LMAO (we may have done a little taunting when we thought that)

[@stephansinyard]

Sick fucking side story bro I wish you could have had the war you wanted but i also understand ish's role in the experiment. Hope to see more videos with different perspectives like this. When you laid to rest all of your friends I almost shed a tear. Crazy that only you survived.

[@oriyirah5001]

Amazing Video, you guys were really underrated! Man, the whole 'spying on our plans' made me so mad back then, but looking back we all had a really good time, and I'm sorry for how Theria treated some of y'all (not that I could've done anything about it, I had the most useless position in the council lol). Anyways, gg and I hope to see y'all next event, hopefully on friendlier terms!

[@lyricbot8513]

I still feel bad about that for different reasons... I (Therian) had joined an open voice call an hour too early and Jophiel logged on to ask why I was on so early, I was like "I'm not good at timezones!" Jophiel mentioned the assassination plot to me but someone from Emirates joined the call while she was wrapping up, and managed to work out from context clues what was going on 🙃😂

[@darkchocospy7080]

im so confused in ish's video davarit died during the assassination of the sultan but here he is alive for the final battle at aculon? im guessing davarit actually never died until the final battle and ish did this for narrative purposes to give a more convincing motive for zombta's betrayal

[@EJK9000]

Yeah, Ish had a tougher time making the plot coherent as he was trying to avoid showing straight up Discord calls and texts like I did. All about balancing the truth with a quality video, and Discord screen shots aren't exactly the HIGHEST quality of entertainment, lol. I completely understand why he decided to change stuff up for the sake of the viewer.

[@yesnt8907]

Maybe it’s just Mandela effect

[@ihcend]

@@yesnt8907 nah it isn't davarit and zombta both die during the assination. I'm guessing ish thought that it would give their storyline a greater impact because they didn't do much afterwards.

[@honeylorddisciple1812]

@@ihcend in ish’s video, zombta didn’t die in the assassination, he died in the aculon war

[@AGTaNGrA]

Ish video completele fake,he either revived them or faked their deaths after the Sultan was killed. Such a shame,his entire video is a scam.

[@warp-star1591]

I just wanted to say that the quality of this video is INSANE, from the editing to the humor. Great watch and very cool to see the new perspective given after ish's video. 10/10

[@Griffingterra]

I wish there were more of these videos. getting to see other people's perspectives and stories in these events is comparable to seeing behind the scene work.

[@seed7972]

Same

[@dlivdikhakan863]

I thought there were 4 videos covering the 4 nations on the inside when I first saw this damn..

[@thedrunkpenguin4105]

This makes the video make so much more sense. I had no idea why people wanted to fight against the allies unless scripted to do so. But it makes sense that Your people wanted to fight after experiencing there injustice. I wish the videos really cared more about what actually happened rather than some scripted story. ngl i liked this video more than the original

[@thedrunkpenguin4105]

Also if they just used fireworks against the tower it would have been over hella quick rip, def seemed like a death trap

[@GunaMask]

​@@thedrunkpenguin4105 wow i never thought of that that wouldve been so funny lol

[@Muth_Zen]

It's definitely a leader's breaking point living to see his nation be burned or slaughtered. Being the last one standing can inflict more pain to a person than the amount of pain the rest received.

[@dale6890]

I knew Theria was not as innocent as they were potrayed in the video. It's sad that the plot made it seemed like you guys were the bad guys and it resulted to the Emirates and it's allies to lose the war, it's always the potrayed "good guys" who wins just for the supposed happy ending.

[@lyricbot8513]

As a Therian, our government was definitely very shady throughout the event, and I loved it lmao. When Ish said in the video that "the people of Theria were innocent [and didn't know about Saps' collusion in the assassination event]" I was laughing my ass off, because nearly every Therian shown onscreen at that moment had been made aware of it- even if people didn't know what was going on, we were told to prepare more bread for potential refugees and make sure we had enough spare iron and diamond armor to go around if necessary. This event was really fun and I'd definitely play it the same way in another Ish video.

[@dale6890]

@@lyricbot8513 Respect, W Therian Member

[@Bricriu-gj9dd]

It's exactly this sort of video that I needed to see. That firm reminder that in order to have the story, there had to be a losing side. The side that suffers and struggles and is betrayed on all sides. And knowing my luck? That's exactly where I'd end up. Great video mate! Hope to see more of your tales sometime

[@Skoxe]

I'm working on writing an in depth npc for my dnd campaign about essentially a super soldier assassin who lost everyone and everything fighting in a war he wanted no part in. An npc who can be found in hiding after he defected to far lands, now living the simple life of the town drunk. Disgraced ronin vibes, who has nothing left to live for, a once great warrior with a secret past. Seeing a similar story (in the lost everyone sense) vocalized and play out has been great inspiration as I have been having a hard time making him feel real enough to immerse into the party as a long term npc. Thanks for the motivation and awesome story :) That last bit, "I didn't know how great the losses really were, not until I got back home. Because I was the only one to make it home." That gut punch right there. You can feel it as an onlooker to the story and that is what I have been missing. That deep seeded, relatable emotion. Knowledge that there was death in the war you wanted no part in only to realize the full implications of the outcome once you returned to an empty fortress. The loss of motivation and the sorrow and despair that follow that emptiness. Loss not only caused by the enemy but by confusion among allies. A fight for nothing where everything hung in the balance and you lost it all, the people you built your life with (I know it's just minecraft), redefining what actually matters to you. I needed to feel this as a viewer to understand the shape I wanted my npc to take, so thank you. In a way, your story will be immortalized in the history books of the lore of our campaign.

[@BrockRocksGaming]

Ish shouldn't call it a social experiment if he is gonna control the results... this is a great story, wish we would have seen it's true ending and potential

[@rodgerdodger2459]

I think even in his end credits he has a “writers” credit. Agreed tho, “social experiment” is a little deceptive but great story nonetheless

[@yeahkeen2905]

@@rodgerdodger2459 not even a little. The video literally said that he wouldn’t intervene so that was straight up a lie.

[@rodgerdodger2459]

@@yeahkeen2905 I think y’all are taking it a little too serious. There aren’t many true social experiments online. Even Mr beasts videos have interjections and a “writers touch”

[@MrVal05]

Socials experiments like these were never 100% organic. It will always have some writers touch, in some way. Most of its story are natural and are made by its players. Its just that ish has to get in touch with some leader to make it a bit more interesting and or discuss how they can be included in the video, it was an entertainment after all, the goal were never to truly see what will happend, but to gives what the viewer wants, entertainment.

[@grandevirtude9830]

​@@yeahkeen2905 I just think that you are a bit too innocent, he saying that he can't intervene doesn't means that he din't. I expected that somethings was dramatized to make the Video more like a Movie, but seeing that not only many things were invented and manipulated to generate the ending, but mostly of these were done without the full agreement of players makes if worse than if everything was stagged from begginning.

[@glyphrp6296]

The history books are written not by those who were conquered, but by those that do the conquering whether by peace or by force. Love the lore behind all of these videos and I'm absolutely riveted! Can't wait to see more!

[@herzkine]

..and as outsider I can say the good allies immediately fell into some " bad guy genocide" after victory ...

[@nimnimn6930]

Great video, I remember doing a double take when that 'Iron Torch' was described as the most advanced defensive structure in the world.

[@sentienttwig7043]

I remember watching another video about a desert guy in a similar position to EJK and he was also like “this thing is a piece of shit” mentioning how hard it was to shoot out of It’s kinda funny

[@kakerake6018]

i haven't played minecraft in years but i spent a good chunk of time in factions and that thing would not stop 3 guys much less several hundred

[@GammaPleb]

Thanks for providing us viewers historically accurate information to what happened on the desert island during states 2!

[@DeffTheDeff]

The ending battle in this video feels more nuanced and dramatic compared to, what some are saying, the Marvel ending of Ish's video. Almost like some of the Dark Souls lore, the struggle shown here reads more like a tragic grasp at any sort of justice or 'good' in a muddied conflict. The final skirmish against Zom and Dav set to the backdrop of a crumbling stronghold in a war that neither side had any stake in is so , I guess, realistic and compelling. Thanks for making this piece.

[@miatobey7697]

Davarit being slain by a weapon called “The Sultan’s Blessing” is so poetic I almost cried.

[@Artromex]

Ι can tell you put a lot of effort into this video. Great work, this event was super fun!!

[@sheerechoes]

He did put in his description a little disclaimer like thing saying things are exaggerated, taken out of context or outright fabricated, but I'm glad we got to see this from on of the players perspectives because I was wondering what it would look like. Awesome work!

[@whatdawhatgaming]

I feel like I just watched a documentory on new historical evidence of the great nations of ish. Glory to the Emirate

[@herzkine]

Actually you just saw the emirate protocol of truth, brought to you by real news central, sponsored by the propaganda ministry ,,😂

[@whatdawhatgaming]

@@herzkine 😂

[@mattr.8470]

ISH being able to revive people explains how Ender “survived” Aculon’s purge. I like seeing how those videos from different people cross over

[@OceanFragments]

I love how there's so many takes on this one event, and so many sides to the story to be told. Easily one of the greatest events to happen in all of minecraft history. It should BE historical.

[@SanderDoesThings]

This video was so high quality The storyline was clear and easy to understand The editing was on point The narration inbetween was funny as shit You're going places my guy

[@wait_wtf]

Im so glad that are a lot of people that are sharing his point of view from the events that happened:D Edit: I finished the video and wohever said that history is written by the victors really didn't lie Also you editing is incredible and also the way you tell keep going !

[@Lumberjack_king]

Nah it’s not it’s written by the people who live

[@RazorsharpLT]

"History is written by the victors" He writes under a video of the losing side, which shows how they were the "good guys" History is written by those who live.

[@ZebsolMarin]

Winners write history, and you made me cry, I know understand the depths of the struggle, while I only knew the surface...

[@mordanthubris6516]

The biggest revelation, that in retrospect isn't all that surprising, that undercuts Ish's retelling of the story is learning how much he actively intervened in the events as they played out. Preventing the Emirate kidnapping plot to prevent the overall plot from "getting confusing" might be the biggest example - because based on the timeline, HAD YOU SUCCEEDED, Theria would either be split or unable to attend the battle at Aculon due to being preoccupied, which would make for an interesting point of order and be more accurate to war (best case scenario for Theria would be defeating the Emirate quickly and getting to the final battle with reduced numbers and strength, OR having the alliance help them rescue their leader first, or any number of things that would likely happen and still wouldn't confuse the plot). It's a shame, it kind of ruins the magic of the story for me. Similarly, I think the fifth island should've been there from the start. And I also somewhat disagree, though in this case I can see the argument for, "resurrecting" the murdered player, but given it violated the server rules I have far less of an issue with that decision (I would've preferred a 'reroll' on a different island myself, so the impact is still felt but the player is allowed to keep playing). EDIT: I also consider the possibility that Ish was against the kidnapping plot because it would've drawn things out, and he felt with this Aculon battle he would have more than enough material to make his video and find a natural stopping point. Which is far more understandable than the "confuses the plot" reason given in the video above, though I do still disagree with it.

[@herzkine]

I just accept in lore that this world has ago god that sometimes likes to intervene in the daily happenings among mortals. The thing I don't like is telling the story not wrong because of too little knowledge but because of drama

[@DALKurumiTokisaki]

I think it's less about it being confusing and more about it being to too hard for Ish to cover multiple fronts of war all at once so for the sake of making the video production easier he decided to condense all the fighting into one location (Aculon).

[@mordanthubris6516]

@@DALKurumiTokisaki No no, I get that, I can even understand and respect it. That was part of the 'drawn out' bit under the edit - another front would draw an already long video out even more, when part of the point here was to make content. And as the video description points out, Ish was willing to let that happen if both sides agreed to it. And I don't want to seem overly critical, because I loved Ish's final product, it was utterly captivating. My issue is primarily that I believe it would've been MORE interesting, and likely more fun, to allow things to progress more organically. I would've preferred to see the plots play out rather than get subdued, wouldn't you? I mean, look at it this way: Theria's leader is taken captive, and at the same time their inter-island alliance is calling for war against the snow empire of Aculon. Do they ignore the call and try to free their leader, or do they respect the summons with the proviso that the alliance must then help free their leader before (or even AFTER) the battle? Hell, if the alliance agreed to help Theria only after Aculon was defeated, that would give the Emirate a vested interest in ensuring Aculon came out on top, rather than being clumsily forced to fight in a war they had no real stake in. It just seems...I don't know, a little TOO editorialized after you peak behind the curtain.

[@TheFollest]

It definitely wouldn't have made for a satisfying video if it just fissiled out with a "oops looks like we've run out of time"

[@mordanthubris6516]

@@TheFollest True, and I just saw Ish's pinned post on here explaining his decision: seems the issue with production overhead was more or less correct, which is unsurprising. I think the decision is a respectable, defensible one - it's just not the one I would've made.

[@thepassingdays]

The feeling in the end is almost near indescribable. When the dust, the fog and the smoke of war or battle finally settles and your high dulls down and fatigue seeps into your bones, you are able to look around with a new set of eyes. You look for the comrades that were with you from the very start. You quickly remind yourself, again, that many did not make it to the second battle, and that some were lost in the third, the fourth, and the fifth. More than half had not make it to the start of this last final fight. You shake your head a little, again, and look for your comrades that were smiling next you what feels like only moments ago. They are dead. You are alive. No one else. Why?

[@dmitribulentkilincarslan5094]

🤓🤓

[@danc8218]

You legit made me cry

[@lordbiscuitthetossable5352]

I was a bit disappointed war didn't come to Theria. Namely because that is precisely what Alexander did to Thebes, after one too many rebellions, he completely erased the city to the ground. I do get it, it's probably much more satisfying for everyone involved to have a massive war arc, but I recalled being really interested in how the Sultanate and other nations would play out, though I guess having history as the victors wrote it make as much sense as our version of history. Very interesting non the less! If nothing else, it shows how even among the Sand folk factions there was a lot of complexity within the faction; in particular the assassination of the sultan was peak history!

[@saparata]

i had to go on vacation!!!

[@leXie_Concussion]

The bit where you were pulled into the Aculon conflict because of a web of alliances instead of personal stake... It reminds of WWI.

[@rinoncrax]

The "Iron Torch" was so frkin GARBAGE like c'mon i can build a defense base out of a fkin lavacaust even better than that failure of a "MOST ADVANCED DEFENSE SYSTEM" in 2 hour by myself

[@I_am_somebody_1234]

An accurate name would have been "The Iron Torture: The most advanced suicide machine ever built"

[@ssythx]

I cant put into words how amazing this video is. You turned a basic concept of a minecraft challenge server into a elaborate and heart-felt story with backgrounds, development, and conflict. I find it ridiculous you pulled such a feat. God bless this work you've done and god bless the work your capable of, for in my eyes, and from this video, it appears to be boundless.

[@TwoMinecarts]

History truly IS written by the winners I guess 💀

[@blmmonkeyman6388]

I love how close the politics of the expirement and the media truth warping are so similar to real life

[@asymptotic195]

I think I’m going insane at how good this story is. Like you worked with all this weird, disparate plot stuff, Ish breaking the 4th wall, discord convos, pvp battles, dramatic deaths, silly deaths, and managed to weave it together so well. Literally these inner workings of a conquered state are soooo interesting - all the little stories / conflicts with Theria, all the people known by name. I was genuinely so sad at the end, like more touched by this than probably any other minecraft civ video I’ve watched. And it was so funny too !!!! I will never get over how well you balanced humor / seriousness because you do it so well!! Please please continue making videos or at the very least find some way to keep on telling stories, because you have SO much talent. This video and story is a cut above the rest.

[@TheAFKShow]

EJK, could you PLEASEEEEE persuade ish to do a follow-up on this? Even just a small spin-off series? Ya know, just to resolve all the remaining plot points, like the desert war featured here. Awesome work to you, ish, and everyone else involved!

[@fxbeliever123]

So Ish, understandably, had to end the video in a rushed Season 8 Game of Thrones style of Hamfisting everything to achieve a conclusive end. Kinda reminds me of the Dorne storyline they just rushed in the series too

[@dendeun4143]

This video deserved so much more attention. It's clear that u put a lot of work in and you should be proud of this video. Honestly rivals the original video! Good job my guy!

[@griffinm9]

Can’t believe Ish “killed off” davarit so much earlier than he actually died

[@acejampaja]

The quality of this content is basically almost at Ish level (of course with your standalone style), but i got the same flow in the storytelling. Thank you for adding a piece to the plot i enjoyed it a lot

[@jonathanmiller4661]

I just watched Ish's video yesterday and this one was great for providing additional context. It does suck that you weren't able to settle things with Theria on y'all's terms but considering Ish's comment I get why things ended up this way. Also you played God-Shattering Star for the deaths of the Sultanate traitors and Deep Rock swarm music for the battle of Aculon, which immediately got a 10/10 from me

[@funky6399]

I love how one video created the space for so many other point of views of an event to be presented. This is like an actual history with many different view sets, great work to everyone who documented this

[@ahhmm5381]

I think the problem here is Ish did not know just how much Theria was hated. If alot of people are incredibly emotional about something, there is probably a good story there. Or maybe Ish just wanted a big battle....

[@vouteicomu3892]

Everyone wanted a big battle

[@k4lit411]

An Excellent video EJK! I have to say you have my thanks for bringing some light to the Desert's affairs, great job. Although I can't help but shake the feeling that I thought I was fighting for only a vision and not an action, you see, as a former member of Theria, I was very conflicted whether I should have stayed or left and join a different group (in this case, there was a moment that I've basically told Therians about my possible au revoir and join the Sultanate the day before the wedding). This was due to me simply not putting enough trust on the higher ups, although it was mostly Saps fault, Theria was a great place, it simply was misunderstood afterwards. I don't want to downgrade anything that the Emirates have suffered due to my former people, but should I been more attentive and possibly in a bigger role in Theria other than simple lead Trader, I would definitely want to have a proper conversation with you and others outside of Theria to finally put some justice. Thanks again for this video, it really showed me a lot that I've missed from other people's sides. Also bro why the hell my leaders didn't know discord perms I was for sure like ''oh yeah ejk is here it means he's friend right? :D'' lmao

[@CuddlyJon]

This is amazing. Really echos how history can be presented from two points of views. This feels like we're uncovering the truth to what was once thought fact! Immensely interesting!

[@misterlinux9290]

Ish: "Lawrence of Arabia" The sultan followers: "the middle-east nomads in WW1"

[@stallionsLP]

I think this is the greatest example of why these "100/1000 player civilization" experiments/videos/ect. need more than 10 or 14 days to work when you got so many pieces, players and factions going at it nonstop. And why it should probably be allowed to keep going until all the plotlines finish, so the editor can just condense it properly instead of forcing a deadline for everything for the sake of having content on youtube every X days without fail.

[@solairefan5420]

This was incredibly entertaining and well put togheter, hope to see from you again in the future!

[@baseg42069]

Extremely well done, it's really interesting to see the perspective of smaller groups trying to find their place in such a competetive environment. Ish made a really good video, but the whole plot had an underlying sense of having a "good side" and a "bad side", seeing this shows us the dynamics between factions much more in depth and feels way more transparent. Looking forward to your next video

[@ministerbismarck]

I love the different pov videos being made. Great work EJK

[@misterjoshua5720]

I'm quite enjoying all of these ancillary videos after watching Ish's. I knew a lot had to be stripped down for an hour long video, but it's very neat to see the many and different stories that fed into the large one. Sorta like reading a textbook on medieval history, then finding a few books by authors who give you mad detail on different things like the Battle of Manzikert, Reynald de Chattion, and fall of the the Khwarazmian Empire and how it all intersects at different points in the story.

[@Nyxcha]

damn dude. i am so glad u made this! this story felt alot more satisfying (probably cause its more personal to you)

[@Vixxatrix]

I love how this whole civ event is now a literal work of historical fiction, and we even have eyewintess accounts in real-time. EPIC!

[@PancakeProduct]

EJK, this video was genuinely great. Honestly, funnier than what ISH created. I'd love to join a clan of yours next time around

[@thefunkynipple1903]

Ish made a very good video that got me hooked into this whole civilization idea. I do wish more people took the time like you have though so we could see all the in and outs of each island as it grew. +1 amazing video!

[@kevlar1482]

Yo, this was fantastic. Can't believe you turned around at the end and happened to roll up on Davarit and Zombta, and that Davarit was killed by "The Sultan's Blessing". This particular outcome was more theatrical than what Ish went with. Great storytelling, editing, and comedy.

[@maximaldinotrap]

Set to the beautiful tune of God Shattering Star

[@Burnkh1]

this is one of the best videos of the entire platform. I just loved the editing, the puns, and literally everything... congratulations on making such a great video :D, I hope you continue doing this even if you dont have much more to say about this event, just make anything with this quality and I will be watching

[@mrscoldarrow]

It's amazing how in ish's original video he spun the narrative to make Theria seem like the good guys, but from the perspective of much of the Desert they seem far more tyrannical and evil. Long Live The Sultan, Long Live The Sultanate!

[@JosephLachh]

Lessons I learned from this video: 1. Disabling PVP is literally a free pass for thieves 2. Y'all need to hide your belongings with great care, especially when PVP is disabled. Including unique commodities. 3. These Minecraft events expose the ruthless injustice and wickedness that plague humanity. 4. Revenge is a double-edged sword. I would want to read the book of proverbs before I participate in one of these. Do you guys use java or bedrock edition?

[@fluixon]

Honestly, great job, this video far better portrays the desert and its unholy mess of politics (even with *some* bias) You were worthy and cunning opponents EJK, it is unfortunate that fate seems to place us on opposite sides of the conflict in every event.

[@EJK9000]

4th time's the charm, right? lol

[@Crispifordthe3rd515]

"Some" is putting it lightly lmao

[@therealseven7seven]

Nice work, thank you for a different perspective, looks like it was a super fun experiemnt. Looking into participating next time. :) Would be cool to see even more players narrating their own journeys on the islands!

[@Kaspisify]

Oh my god. That "Welcome To The Jungle" bit was so damn epic.