The Real Terror Behind THE TAKING OF DEBORAH LOGAN

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[@RyanHollinger]

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[@axelcordova8262]

Still requesting Night in the Woods and Pink Floyd's The Wall.

[@craigpaterson953]

Eden Lake (2008)

[@sethrickschottler8372]

They Look Like People is a great watch and would be a great film to cover. Super spooky.

[@laurenblevins2596]

The People Under the Stairs. That one stoked some major childhood nightmares!

[@DDfan91]

The void, ginger snaps trilogy, repo the genetic opera, suspiria, Salem's lot, the lost boys, the love witch and over the garden wall.

[@DogHumpsMonkey]

As a fan of found footage, I give this movie props for doing something that rarely happens in found footage, the dude noping-out in his minivan when things start to get bonkers.

[@jasonrhome710]

Same, one of the main things about this film that stays in the immediate recall tapes.

[@rhetiq9989]

The only other found footage movie where one of the guys nope out early that I can think of is Skinwalker Ranch. Those are the smart bunch that we rarely see in these movies

[@lucinae8510]

He was asshole the whole time, but honestly his decision to leave is something most of us would do.

[@Soulintent95]

This movie was so believable. Best and scariest horror movie ever made. I dont get scared of movies, but this one terrifies me.

[@25Aadi25]

​@@Soulintent95aah it was mid, I feel like Gojiam or REC2007 are still somewhat better

[@gatochick14]

The most haunting scene for me was the one where Deborah is found nude at her old operator's switchboard, acting like she's at work, talking to her old friends. The supernatural elements of that scene don't even matter- it's the realness of her thinking she's just working.

[@katehucks774]

My partner’s late grandfather, who suffered from alzheimer’s as well, had an episode like this. I only got told this story since it was before I met my partner but apparently he was being given some kind of community award but when he got up on stage to receive it, he thought he was teaching again and proceeded to give an entire college-level lecture, and they just... let him. Nobody tried to correct him or stop him, they just let him give this surprisingly lucid and in-depth psychology lecture like it was exactly what they were there for, which I think was the right thing to do. But apparently it was the clearest and most cohesive he’d been for a long time, no hesitation or trailing off or confusion. He was just. Teaching. Like it was any other day, only decades earlier.

[@Svgarcanna]

@@katehucks774 that is so damn sad and heartwarming at the same time. I’m way too high for this.

[@Akeboun]

@@Svgarcanna depressingly wholesome

[@falloutghoul1]

@@katehucks774 What happened after the lecture ended?

[@jackfisher9573]

I remember being totally blown away by the acting from the woman playing Deborah. I completely got lost in the fact that she wasn't actually deteriorating and that it was only in film. She's absolutely haunting and terrifying in this film! Do agree the ending was a bit of a damp squid to what was a emotionally heavy film. Loved your views on it and keep it up!

[@angiet7380]

The idiom is actually "damp squib"

[@technopoptart]

@@angiet7380 i like damp sqid more

[@jackfisher9573]

@@angiet7380 IT crowd reference xoxo

[@angiet7380]

@@jackfisher9573 oh, thank you. I'm sorry

[@barry_crisp]

@@jackfisher9573 I love that

[@georgespiggott5615]

Something to keep in mind is that, while Alzheimers patients forget who you are, they don't forget they love you. Often they'll assume that you're a loved one they DO remember, like their spouse or sibling or even a parent. I can't imagine how terrifying it must be to not recognize anyone and constantly be told that you should remember more than you do. Alzheimers patients are very brave a lot of the time.

[@fridakahlo4225]

This is so true 😢 my grandmother's mother was blessed with a long life which unfortunately ended with alzeimer. In her last years, she assumed her daughter (her caretaker who happens to be my grandmother) was her mother. She knew that she was loved and taken care of.

[@darianrose2195]

Maybe. My uncle via marriage and his siblings dealt with the terrible ordeal of watching their mother deteriorate with the disease. Virginia led a rough life and had quite a few marriages but could be an incredibly sweet woman. I remember many times over at "grandma Tony's" while she played with us kids and made us burgers but she became such an advanced case that she eventually was admitted to at least three different nursing homes because she would become violent with staff and other residents. On top of that, at the very end she had forgotten everyone, had taken to caring for a baby doll thinking it was an actual baby, and thought my uncle, one of her children, was her boyfriend and was jealous of my aunt and would call her a slut, etc. She finally passed away and was released from that pain, but you can still see the scars left on her family. It's very sad.

[@addieholder5082]

Alzheimers is the most painful disease to witness. “Good” days are often days where you’re loved one isn’t stuck in painful memories of their early years. This movie does an painfully amazing job at depicting the effects of Alzheimer’s on both the individual and their family.

[@Chris-ci8vs]

Geriatric clinician here...yep, a thousand times yep.

[@skylx0812]

I had to take guardianship over my mom after dad passed away. I signed her into care facility. My siblings decided on a DNR and mom and I had to sign it. I agonized about it days before. When she signed she had a moment of clarity and beamed at me. It reminded me of the look the one patient in that hospital gave the nurse in Schindler's List. The doctor and the nurse poisoned the infirmed before the soldier could arrive. There was one woman that simply beamed at the nurse in gratitude. Thats the look mom gave me. When I got back to their house I sat on their bed and said, well pop, you told me to use my best judgement. I hope I did the right thing and wept. She didn't know us in the end but she did tell a nurse, "Dad's coming to get me."

[@Jetsetlemming]

The "stuck in memories" thing is, IME, the major thing that's missing from many other portrayals of people dealing with the disease, and the most horrifying aspect of it. My grandmother'd have screaming fits where she was convinced our family were home invaders, not recognizing any of us.

[@lizc6393]

@@skylx0812 I am sincerely sorry. I really am. I've been there, and it's my personal opinion that at her core she definitely knew who you were, she probably just wanted the pain to stop. You did the right thing Pumpkin.

[@FTZPLTC]

This is a strong contender for one of the saddest horror movies going. The depiction of Alzheimers is horribly real.

[@Claymann71]

*Everywhere At the End of Time has joined the Chat (I realize it was about Dementia, similar feeling though. Interesting enough, both are having emerging research into treatment & management with CBD & Other similar Products. & Retrovirus Re-engineered Cone Snail Venom. Cool stuff! There's hope in the future, but time marches on for many, & far too fast for some)

[@craigmiddlemiss6917]

you think this movie is sad i watched a movie called look away which really surprised me the story is about a teenage girl who swaps places with the person she sees in the mirror who is a very confident manipulate young women who is actually a demon lets just say revenge is sweet

[@wowamber5107]

Yes! I studied Alzheimer's and particularly how it affects the loved ones, this movie hits really hard. Alzheimer's patients often present violent behavior, which is not really talked about because of the stigma surrounding someone loosing themselves to such an aggressive disease.

[@wowamber5107]

@@craigmiddlemiss6917 that movie has nothing on this one, and it's really cringe

[@chelleolsen969]

The actress (whose name I can’t recall) absolutely killed it as Deborah, the interview she does at the beginning talking about how there is no cure, and she can only “stave off” the disease, that didn’t feel like acting. I know it was but she knocked it out of the park with that.

[@piganxiety]

My Gran had Alzheimer’s for most of my life and the upsetting scariness of Deborah really captures what i felt around her when growing up. I knew that she was ill but was too young to fully understand what was going on with her and therefore, found was scared of her and the way she acted because of her Alzheimer’s. I didn’t like being around her but also felt guilty about it because I knew that I was supposed to love and care about her and this movie does a pretty good job at showing that relationship.

[@notyetaladie]

I said it in another comment but I really want to get more people to watch this film.. This one was really good and is still high up there on the list of horror movies but I really loved Relic in all the ways that the taking of deborah logan disappointed. Similar themes of dealing with realities of sickness in old age. I don't want to spoil too much but it really made me want to take positive action in real life after watching.

[@adrianatkins10]

That must have been a really tough experience for a child. Even grown up adults have a hard time with a loved one with Alzheimers

[@daniozombio]

@@notyetaladie You took the words right out of my mouth. Relic is terrifying for anyone who has/had a loved one with Alzheimer's/dementia. It's also sad and heartwarming... and the ending will definitely stick with you. If you liked Deborah but wished it didn't get into weird occult snake stuff, give Relic a try!

[@eindummkopf2970]

It was the same for my grandad Though I never knew him before he had progressed to 3-4 word sentences so I never realy knew the man he was God rest his soul

[@lesbwian7023]

My gran too (severe dementia, don't know if it was specifically alzheimer's). I knew her before it got really bad & had a really good relationship with her, but I was still a child (probably about 7 years old) when it really quickly got really bad. The last time i saw her was on a christmas eve, she thought I was her daughter (my mom) and wasn't able to clean herself properly anymore. I deeply regret it now, but I didn't see her much for the last few years of her life because I was deeply unsettled by her illness. I understood that she couldn't remember things well anymore, but mostly I was just so confused and saddened at what was happening, my grandma was still alive, but I would never get to play with her in their garden or collect rocks with her at the beach anymore. It was heartbreaking because it felt like we had already lost her, and it's heartbreaking still even now because I wish I hadn't been so scared and could've been there for her those last few years. You're absolutely on point about the guilt.

[@joyleilani5456]

My father died of Lewey body syndrome a few years ago, and whooo boy the body horror at the end really spooked me out. Degenerative diseases like that are incredibly awful.

[@adrianomaly1760]

my condolences

[@maxalberts2003]

I am terribly sorry for your awful loss.

[@Silver-rx1mh]

Personally I looked after both my parents who had dementia till they died, and dear god I wouldn't wish that condition, nor the emotional and physical strain it puts on the career on anyone. It's a horrific condition that strips away the person till there is nothing there and the worst part is in the early days they are fully aware of whats happening to them, so the combination of fear and panic is devastating. Now thats a REAL horror story....

[@sophiejervis169]

My parents have looked after my grandma with Alzheimer's since my granddad passed march last year. Coupled with covid restrictions it's aged my parents terribly and they're so miserable

[@Silver-rx1mh]

@@sophiejervis169 You have my deep felt sympathy. Its damn tough illness on everyone it touches.

[@RyubearSaysGao]

What broke my heart and is sometimes a thought, that keeps me up at night. The fact that this evil spirit waited, until Deborah was old and unable to resist. Because she was so strong, only her absolute lowest point would allow a possession. Even then, her will to fight was evident, until she no longer could.

[@Knightlaw]

While I'm okay with the ending, I share some of your thoughts, it felt kind of rushed. In my opinion it could have been better with two changes, either the child was part of the family, like a grand daughter, or Sarah being the one eating alive by Deborah. The rest could be similar but adding some form to know what happen to Deborah after, like having no recollection of the events and dying peacefully next to her daughter.

[@oregondude9411]

I assumed in the beginning that Deborah would kill Sarah because she could tell Sarah hated her.

[@robotjones7686]

I agree, I thought Deborah going after Sarah or maybe a child of Sarah’s would keep the story consistent. Maybe it would also give more emphasis to how strained their relationship would become, eventually creating a ripple of trauma throughout the family. Then it becomes a generational horror that puts a genuine fear in the lineage and the audience.

[@Knightlaw]

@@robotjones7686 making the ending be that Sarah had to kill Deborah just to get possessed could have been a haunting ending, turning what originally Deborah's actions to protect her family become a curse that will follow each generation

[@B0l0joe]

in my opinion it's a shame that none of the characters learned how to turn on a light in either the house or the hospital (oo sudden power outage). The medical student also displayed no behaviour throughout the movie to show us that she was involved in medicine at all.

[@squirrelgadget3498]

​@@B0l0joei work in healthcare and her getting freaked out and refusing to touch a dead body had me raising my brows. How do you go through med school without having to touch gross things?

[@blujaebird]

I have a severe mental disorder where I go into psychosis and lose touch with reality. "Possession" is the closest way I could describe what it feels like when that happens. I think that's what a lot of historical "possession" was as well, mental illness and epilepsy.

[@CyclingUrchin]

I have mood congruent psychosis too and I agree. I hear voices and feel things that aren't there. That's why I don't believe in the supernatural, it's almost always mental health

[@Ghostpigeon5304]

Tourette’s Syndrome was also likely attributed to possession back in the day and as some one that has it I can totally understand how someone without the modern day understanding of the condition would be convinced they were under the control of something otherworldly. The sensation of not being in control of your own body movement and speech is an uncanny one. Hell, that belief is still held by people today- my parents were once offered a cleansing ritual to cure me by a person they had just met. Tic attacks can be scary enough when you know what they are, I can’t imagine how they would be if you had led to believe they were because you were possessed.

[@9roselove9]

@@CyclingUrchin energy can’t be created or destroyed so i mean ghosts exist

[@giancarlocaballero7684]

@@9roselove9 You do realize that when organisms die, their bodies are subsequently broken down by bacteria and scavenger animals, thus being used for further energy?

[@BthIX]

@@9roselove9 wtf does that mean? When you die your body stops taking in and converting energy and what energy remains is consumed by decomposers or turned into fire if you're cremated

[@emmas3754]

Ryan: stay safe and stay away from snakes Me and my pet snake watching the vid together: 👁👄👁

[@lewiskazinsky7334]

The worst thing about Alzheimer’s? One day, the person you love is gone and you don’t even realise it, because they’re still walking and talking. It takes them before you have a chance to say goodbye.

[@jeremysiron9622]

Yep, I never got to say a proper goodbye to my grandmother, it breaks my heart

[@LexxiKitty]

Not having a proper goodbye is heartbreaking, but one thing you can at least know, is they knew you loved them dearly. Don't need words to say this =)

[@lewiskazinsky7334]

@@LexxiKitty Awh man, melted my heart ❤️

[@LexxiKitty]

@@lewiskazinsky7334 =) 💕💜💕

[@joefriday1327]

The hardest comment ever...

[@Rags_222]

This movie hit home for me I saw my grandpa forget his son his grandkids and everyone. Reliving memories from the 80's everyday repeating the same thing everyday, and no matter how many times we told him we are ur grandkids he couldn't remember me and my siblings names truly a terrifying disease

[@dionnebarry8654]

I feel like the child who was almost consumed should’ve been Sarah’s daughter-it would’ve been another emotional layer with both of them learning how to process and deal with Deborah’s deteriorating state. It’s another monstrous layer because Deborah killed the man who possessed her to save her daughter-now she’s lost herself entirely and Sarah must save her daughter.

[@Iopax7]

Any scene where she notices the camera is on her and just starts staring when she's alone always got me eide-eyed

[@gregorybertrand645]

I remember watching this movie in college with a group of friends, drunk, ready to make fun of what we thought would be a crappy found footage film. By the end, we were all sober and dead silent, affixed to the screen. We loved it.

[@Cheweeconga]

I feel like Ryan would enjoy Noroi: The Curse

[@DaiHachiHachi]

Koji Shiraishi’s work needs more coverage in general. I hope for a Blu-ray release of Noroi, Occult and Cult someday.

[@thegoddamnbatman1047]

Noroi was lame. Turning a demon into what amounts to a petulant child with relatable human behaviors isn't scary, it's stupid. Literally could have avoided all the problems of the film by stroking its ego. I don't find problems that are easily solved by not being an idiot compelling problems to solve. "Don't hurt nature, or a demon might kill you ooooh."

[@SuperMurphy7]

Noroi is the scariest movie i’ve seen! I loved it

[@ryansinbela6396]

Watch Accented Cinema’s video on it

[@dimsumboy22]

Why is it called curse: the curse

[@wstine79]

It's not a proper Sunday without Ryan's Horror HOYEVER.

[@belinda35_77]

When Deb unhinges her jaw and swallows that kids whole head.... Ahhhhhhh WTAF??? Very disturbing flick. I loved it!

[@Droemar]

I think part of what allows Deborah her dignity is a kind of "fallen hero" element to her character. She stopped a terrible thing, and stepped up to the plate to do it. She didn't just call the police and hope for the best, she killed the guy. And especially for a woman in the 1950s, that was a huge risk.

[@nessarolla]

I took care of my grandma during the last year of her life when the alzheimers got really bad. Sometimes she was ok but most times she would yell and curse at me, something she'd never done, and say how much she wanted to die. It was heartbreaking.

[@terratheterribl]

I've been living with my grandma for the past 7 years after her brain surgery and she has very similar problems. During her episode she says she wishes she was dead, cursing me and saying she wish she never married my grandfather or moved to our town. I spend an hour or 2 every other day calming her down. When she's in her right state of mind, she is the sweetest person in the world, just alittle forgetful about recent events. It's extremely emotionally taxing, but I promised her I would never put her in an old folks home when she was clear of mind. My biggest fear is that she will wake up one day and not know where I am or where she is.

[@kyleshiflet9952]

I had a great grandmother and a grandmother die from it and it's hard to see them live with the disease its utterly heartbreaking

[@Dmitrisnikioff]

"Stay away from snakes" Easy for you to say, Irelander

[@kittynapier4678]

One of the few “found footage” horror films that I actually love.

[@MKLettis]

First two thirds of the film hit hard for me. My grandma didn't have alzheimers but she did suffer from kidney failure. Because of that and the grueling dialysis process I had to watch her slowly wither away and become a shell of what she was; just like the way Sarah had to watch Deborah slowly wither away due to the possession. Film gets kind of wacky at the end but I can definitely vouch for the authenticity of the portrayal of poor Deborah. Post video edit: Glad I wasn't the only one who found the ending meh. I just thought it was also too mean. Cancer kid is possessed by an evil serial killer and Deborah is a vegetable now. Would've rather had Deborah die trying to keep the bad guy from enacting his plan.

[@bbygyal2180]

My grandfather, even though I've been taking care of him for years doesn't remember my name. And sometimes it takes a lot of reassurance for him to reinforce that he is in a house with his family and not with a bunch of strangers.

[@Cissablack708]

I really loved this movie, but I also completely agree with you on the weakness of the ending they give us. I felt like they absolutely took the easy way out. Throughout the movie Sarah was the emotional center of the entire story and they never gave us closure on the end of her journey, we don't get to see what happens to her and how she reacted and coped with the ramifications of her actions as well as the death of her mother. We were supposed to be emotionally attached to her but they never finished the arch of her story.

[@rhetiq9989]

I definitely would've loved to see Sarah reacting to her mom trying to devour a kid as a whole snake-like

[@flufflewarrior]

My grandmother started showing symptoms of Alzheimer disease after my grandfather died. She would ask everyday when he would return home and every time someone told her that he was dead, she broke down. I‘m so happy they are reunited again

[@anomieanomalie]

I like that the possession wasn't a demon/the devil, but just some evil dude

[@Pewpewpew182]

That snake jaw scene is still etched into my mind 7 years later O_O’

[@unslaadkrosis9435]

I had a schizophrenic great aunt and a great grandma suffering from Alzheimer's. Witnessing the interactions between them as a child was... Interesting to say the least

[@kelath5555]

This movie hits so much different before and after losing a parent.

[@sabz4u2be]

My grandfather had parkinsons disease dementia. It was terrifying trying to convince an 80 year old that no, we're not trying to get you to bed because we're trying to hurt you in some way you don't even know, we just want you to make it to tomorrow. One day in a state of paranoia, he knocked down my mother and tried to run out of the house. We put him in assisted living because we couldn't take care of him any longer, and he died a month later to covid. I lost my grandfather in February after not having seen him since Christmas, and it's hard thinking about how he would get confused and think we abandoned him, or the hospital was trying to hurt him. This movie resonated with me greatly. I love you all, thank you all for sharing your stories.

[@laurenbenford6946]

I loved this film. It's so underrated. The portrayal of alzheimer's and dementia is so accurate and heart breaking. The possession plot kind of creeps alongside it and there are some truly disturbing images within this film. The actress who played Deborah did a fantastic job. Its important to remember that people with dementia are still people and should be treated with dignity and respect.

[@mullaoslo]

I watched this movie completely blind.. First it creeped me out since I saw similarities to when my grandma had alzeimers Then it got to that moment towards the end and I litteraly screamed out loud "what the hell is that!!!" Not many horror movies has made me do that..

[@AxeKick80]

How’d you know what was happening on the screen though 🤔

[@mullaoslo]

@@AxeKick80 😂😂😂

[@Crust™]

Omg I just randomly recalled this movie today but couldn't remember the name for the life of me and then Ryan uploaded this, bless

[@Keykatriz]

I watched this movie years ago when I was just coming to terms with the fact that my grandmother was beginning to suffer from Dementia. Since then it got severely worse (especially after the passing of her husband) and she passed away 6 months ago due to it. I think this movie is a great and respectful depiction of dementia. It really does feel like a possession sometimes...we had situations where she would get aggressive to people she loved for seemingly no reason. I think it would hurt too much to rewatch anytime soon, but I would like to see it again sometime. I also think the ending is just wild and lightens up the movie a lot.

[@daffodildaydream9730]

The Love Witch is one of the most visually stunning films I’ve seen. I highly recommend it.

[@tite93]

I've always wanted someone to talk about this movie! It's a great hidden gem

[@DarkGodJames]

I always thought of the child as a metaphor for the fact that alzheimers is a kind of genetic disease, therefore still alive

[@aelitalove]

As a horror loving teen who was also home schooling myself to help take care of grandmother who had advanced alzheimers, this movie was terrifying. Really didn't help that my grandmother looked very similar to Debra Logan around the end of the movie either. I had a distinct memory of leaving my room to check on her late at night to find her walking down the hallway with a kitchen knife.... she asked me why this bag was left on the counter then handed it to me to put away lol had me spooked pretty bad

[@jacksuke]

YES. I've been waiting forever for you to review this movie! It scared the shit out of me

[@aidanfarnan4683]

Having lost a great aunt to vascular dementia recently, I can remember the very real pain it caused me and especially my parents watching this wonderful woman slowly lose herself in her past and get trapped in her own increasingly frail body and disordered memories. "The visit" upset me with its depictions of dementia, but this film, this film fucking broke me.

[@gee7893]

This was always a hard movie for me. Similar to Sarah, my mom was the primary caretaker for her mother. Watching my grandmother deteriorate as she got older was upsettingly scary, and when I got older and saw this movie for the first time, I found myself watching it through a lens not a lot of my friends could really understand. The horror of the movie is how the disease is depicted. I agree that the ending was a bit weak, but my goodness what a great movie overall. A hidden gem for sure! Excellent video, Ryan!

[@vicman3122]

The role of the Daugther on this movie is played by Anne Ramsay, best known as Lisa from Mad About You(sitcom), I think that she has aged very well and she still a great actress

[@hereitis2023]

In a way it also mirrored The Autopsy of Jane Doe in having a great premise, setting, good hook, but didn't stick the landing.

[@jeremysiron9622]

Dude this movie was downright disturbing, I’ve dealt with people with dementia in real life and it makes the movie that much scarier and tragic, it’s an underrated movie for sure

[@InsomniaRex]

Wow, the way they managed to make Deborah look like both herself and Hénri @9:46 is disturbingly clever.

[@watchthisnow2865]

I remember some roommates watching this late one night when I got sucked into joining them. Snakes are my number one fear, so when we got the end with the little girl I straight up left the room. That scene is burned into my brain and I wish I could scrub it away. This is one of the better found footage films that manages to connect the family drama with the horror in a thematically effective way. Great analysis as always!

[@iainmoore9890]

I’ve literally never been this earlier to a video, ever.

[@KevSixFeet]

Samezies!

[@batorsagandszerelem4474]

Me neither.

[@Maso777]

Same. And it’s a good one!

[@jascemarie33]

Same!

[@austins.2495]

I've never understood why you think it's an accomplishment to view a KZbin video early. It litterally doesn't matter at all 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Katiethewizard]

I really loved the aspect of this movie where Deb is a very overbearing mother and inadvertently makes Sarah feel inadequate throughout her entire life, yet Sarah is still devastated by the state her mom is now in. It shows the weird situation a lot of people face when their parents are a source of self-hatred and tension, but when seeing them in a position of weakness it's still incredibly hard to handle and difficult to accept

[@MrMisuma]

I deal with health anxiety everyday and it can be triggered by anything these days, so I REALLY appreciate that “warning” in the beginning.

[@WetBoy]

Dear God you are pathetic

[@ladyredl3210]

I do too, and it's been awful. Keep your head up, hopefully it'll get easier.

[@impofstpete727]

When my grandmother started to slip more and more it was scary. There was a moment when she didn't know who I was before she snapped back. The depiction of how she does stranger things at night is real as hell. People with Alzheimer's will do some unusual things after sundown. As the brain breaks down it starts to lose impulse control and the temporal lobe is kind of "sacrificed" to protect more vital functions. This film makes a solid use of the behavior covering the more supernatural aspects.

[@bryh555]

Honestly....... Deborah’s actress is underrated. This looked like a hard role and found footage acting can come across so cheesy, but she feels real. she did such a good, horrifying, haunting performance and committed so hard to the role it’s part of what made this movie so much more immersive

[@Ayden_B]

YOOO a friend of mine from elementary school is in this movie! She played the little girl Deborah takes, I can’t imagine what it was like for a little third grader to film that scene where she almost gets ate😂

[@craigab1976]

Have you spoken to her since the movie?

[@Ayden_B]

@@craigab1976 we were friends up until high school, we went to separate ones. I can say tho, she’s moved on from acting

[@maniac7770]

I can confirm how distressing a loved one having something like Alzheimers or dementia can be. I remember one of the last times I saw my late grandmother, and it was like she didn't know I existed. We were having lunch, and she asked how I was doing, but thought I was my brother. When I said I wasn't him, she apologized, and thought I was my cousin, instead. I still haven't gotten over it, despite it being years ago, because I can't shake the feeling that despite my own life going on, I should've found ways to just be there more, so that she could remember one of the many grandkids that loved her so much.

[@CatChaos369]

As someone who works in a nursing home with many dementia patients and now having a relative diagnosed with it it kills me to think she will slowly fade away and a stranger will take her place just like it has for the patients we have

[@alljustletters]

i haven’t seen this but i think “relic” did a really good job with a similar premise

[@adamfenix213]

Man I remember how depressing the ending is, especially for Deborah.

[@oregondude9411]

It was actually a happy ending. Deborah wasn't possessed anymore, and she won't go to prison for her acts.

[@adamfenix213]

@@oregondude9411 she's not possessed sure, but alzheimers has still ran its course if you look at her when she's deemed "unfit for trial". She might not be getting jailed, but she's more or less on her deathbed healthwise.

[@oregondude9411]

@@adamfenix213 true

[@R3l3ntl3sss]

@@adamfenix213 worse than jail

[@DarkWatcherDS]

I remember telling friends that the ending felt like the studio told them "Yeah by the way you got 30 minutes left in the movie" because they put so much beautiful work into the slow burn of the Alzheimer's and the dripping realization of the supernatural that they forgot entirely that there was a time limit and just had to quickly throw an ending in there. If the movie had an extra 30 minutes on the run time I'm sure the ending would have been incredible

[@mikemidwood9661]

So glad you covered this. Been an underrated favorite of mine for awhile

[@Kiss_My_Aspergers]

*Hey, Ryan! =)* Henry (Henri) DesJardin's name is French, not Spanish, so you pronounce the J. It should sound vaguely like "On-ree Day-jhar-dehn" (at least in standardized Canadian French). The H is beside the J as a reminder that it is a soft J, like a "sh" sound but not quite, rather than a hard J, like in the word "Jar". *Hope that helps!*

[@tunguskalumberjack9987]

The sound you refer to as a “soft “sh” but not quite”- would it be more like a “zh”? That’s how I always hear it in my head. Thanks for the comment!

[@Kiss_My_Aspergers]

@@tunguskalumberjack9987 Yes, exactly!

[@tunguskalumberjack9987]

@@Kiss_My_Aspergers Thank you- Much appreciated!

[@sydneycastelfan]

they pronounce it wrong through the whole movie. drives me nuts every time I watch it

[@Kiss_My_Aspergers]

@@tunguskalumberjack9987 no problem at all!

[@drewcifur3443]

I'm a PCA and i got into the field taking care of my grandpa who had alzheimers Parkinson's and dementia. It was hell but being able to care for him according to his wishes made it worth it. Having said that after what ive seen id kill myself before ever living through what I saw.

[@gingeremu4475]

so i had to take care of my grandmother while she was dying from cancer. we all knew she had less than a year. we all took turns watching her, cleaning her house, giving her meds, and cooking for her. but i actually moved in and was permanently there for her. the slow decent from a seemingly healthy woman who was passionate about quilting, the forensic files and judge judy to someone who refused to even get out of bed to go to the bathroom.... was heartbreaking. i cant count the amount of nights me and my family huddled together and just sobbed in the middle of the night. it does feel like theyve become possessed. either by their grief or their illness. i think this movie does things like this justice and really does hit home the desperation of both the ill and their caretakers

[@alexpaddock1025]

Glad you covered this, this is one of my all time favourites. That one shot of Deborah playing the Piano in the dark and smirking at the camera always gives me the chills.

[@lunarmagpie619]

Currently in the process of losing my grandmother, we’re in the stage where she’s bitterly mean and terrified all the time. This film understands the parts that hurt the most. Also doesn’t hurt that there’s a lesbian who isn’t used for shock or exploitation tbh

[@ADMG]

Day 1 of recommending Ryan to watch the Empty Man.

[@RyanHollinger]

I need a pitch because I’ve never seen it!

[@derekconnors4128]

@@RyanHollinger Here is the pitch: The Ring, In the Mouth of Madness, Candyman, and David Fincher rolled into one.

[@burtbiggum499]

That was quick

[@mattgilbert7347]

@@RyanHollinger It's about Jacques Derrida High School.

[@harrisonlee9585]

@@derekconnors4128 One of the very few movies to actually get the mood of Cosmic Horror somewhat right. Also an all time example of the movie being wildly different than the trailer.

[@Blackpilho]

I was an adolescent when my grandad was diagnosed with Alzheimer. I didn't knew him well but the sadness it caused to my grandma was devastating. I saw him only once when he was in a specialized hospital and when I met him I saw in his eyes that he didn't knew who I was. As horrible as it sound, I never saw him again. I didn't want to see him desesperatly trying to remember who I was...

[@FrostedTacos]

I remember watching this movie when my Uncle was going through Alzheimers.. it really does capture how heavy the disease is. There are many terrible diseases out there and I'm not trying to push them to the side, but nothing is more devastating and upsetting than watching someone you love dearly become someone else. For them to forget who you are. The time you shared with them. I'm glad they handled it so respectfully. Though the supernatural aspects were strange to me. Regardless I'm so glad Ryan talked about this one!

[@rajupadhyay3855]

This really is one of those movies which could have been extremely amazing barring the terrible ending.

[@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose]

Let us take a moment to congratulate the person consistently recommended this one to Ryan: Congrats my friend, I hope it was worth the wait. 😊

[@andymalum]

I watched this movie and got a notification for this video and frankly, Ryan basically hit the nail on the head with how felt about it.

[@ares8553]

Criminally underrated movie. Maybe not underrated, because most people who have watched it talk highly of it; but certainly underwatched. Nice one!

[@clairikus9743]

Hey Ryan, you should do a video on a movie called "Last shift." It was the first movie to ever really spook me.

[@mschell8022]

That one was great

[@devingallucci4829]

Time to sync this up with everywhere at the end of time

[@groovymovie3213]

This movie genuinely disturbed me. And not even just on the horror level. It was not only scary, but sad. Would love to see you cover the original Fright Night!

[@swnidh]

this is one of my comfort horror movies. first time i watched it me and my friend got stoned and put it on on a whim and i’ll never not want to watch it when i think of horror movies now

[@nickmartin2300]

Have you ever thought about tackling shows like "The Haunting of Hill House", Or "The Kingdom"?

[@ComiskeyProjects]

Woah early for once to get my weekly dose of "however"

[@lucym7438]

Thank you for finally giving in to all the comments

[@RyanHollinger]

Oh yeah! I read everything!

[@lucym7438]

@@RyanHollinger hahaha! I appreciate you doing that, hope there's not too many negative ones

[@blackpeter70]

Yeah, this one took me by surprise. There's some genuinely creepy, scary stuff in this film, and shows that the Found Footage sub-genre still has a bit of life in it yet, handled well enough. Not as upsetting as The Poughkeepsie Tapes, or Megan Is Missing, just really strong performances, and the ending was terrific. A good story, well told.

[@silence_dais]

I really liked this one, and while the ending is the usual "downer ending", I still think it works really well all around. I love Last Exorcism but I definitely believe this one is all around better.

[@majinally3527]

i think the movie did a really good job on the mental health of the elderly and it’s really relatable. it really hit home being the fact that im going through this too with my great grandmother but other than that i honestly didn’t like it movie😕😕

[@wendychavez5348]

My paternal grandmother had dementia (not sure if it was specifically Alzheimers, though it was definitely related). My grandpa had died at age 68, of Lou Gherig's Disease of all things. Not long after she was moved to a memory care facility she said that, "It felt like we weren't even married, it was such a short time" (they were married at least 40 years). By the end of her life she thought my dad was her husband, and had no memory of any of her children. I'm grateful we were able to make sure she was cared for and that someone visited her every day, and family was worth her when she went to sleep at dinner and didn't wake up.

[@filmaticpictures9693]

I just watched this flick with my girlfriend last night and I’ve got to say it was one of the most bone chilling found footage horrors I’ve ever seen. The balance of sad realism and brutal paranormal activity created such a strong melancholic theme. It was hard to watch, both heart and gut wrenching. I loved the fact that the direction found a fine line between tension and atmosphere, and occasional jump scares to keep you on your toes. The whole first two acts felt earned and suspenseful! That said, you’re take on the ending reaffirmed some similar thoughts I had as well. While the snake reveal is terrifying, the entire final confrontation feels like it fell prone to every found footage trope in the book, and I was sucked out of the personal stakes and tossed into a rushed attempt at delivering a solid paranormal climax... the thing is, like you touched on- this film deserved a more character driven finale, and I could only dream of how effective it would have been had the little girl and her parents been somehow directly tied into the personal narrative, comparing and contrasting the relationship between Deborah and Sarah.

[@danyalahmed3995]

Hey Ryan! I know it's not quite in your wheelhouse but I think an interesting artistic piece that capture some of the ideas of Alzheimer's and its horror is the album Everything at the end of time by the caretaker. It's quite long, but it's so deep and interesting that you probably will find some fascination with it

[@adolfwasrite7009]

"Start a conversation" is the excuse every bad writer uses to be exploitative.

[@CyclingUrchin]

Yeah I don't think this film is exploitative, in fact it points to how films like the film crew are exploitive. But that is an excuse so many people use especially in films that show minorities or women being tortured in some way

[@adolfwasrite7009]

@@CyclingUrchin As I said, it's an excuse for low quality artists in general. If you have to explain your art, it isn't art.

[@baydiac]

Like the “conversation” you clearly want to “start” with your youtube name? Low quality “artists” are more pervasive than I realized.

[@adolfwasrite7009]

@@baydiac I'm not using it to start a conversation. I'm using it to trigger self-righteous arrogant pricks.

[@mr.oinkoink3213]

As a suggestion for a future video, I highly recommend Chronicle. It stuck with me quite a bit when I first saw it, and from what I took away from it, is a great portrayal of how power in the hands of the wrong people can have a major impact on those around them. I'm a little hesitant to call it a character study, since it's been a few years since I last watched it, so I'll leave that conclusion up to you. But I would like to know your thoughts on it.

[@ashleyhall6464]

Another great analysis, Ryan! Always look forward to your videos every week.

[@ChipNoir]

During 9th grade my grandfather began manifesting signs of brain cancer: He had an episode late night where he was convinced that it was morning, he had made fried eggs, and my dad was hiding them. He swung at my father. That memory had laid buried for a long time, and this movie wrenched it out of the darkness. A little too real for me.

[@Neflame]

I was very happy to see this video pop up because this is one of those films that I'll likely not watch precisely because of the Alzheimer's subject matter and remembering how the disease caused my grandmother to, well, "disappear" shortly before she passed. So I'm very happy to hear that the film treats the subject with the respect and dignity one should. On a different note, a horror film I would love to hear your perspective on is "The Shrine."

[@ShyOne1995]

My great grandmother dealt with the condition and to make matters worse it got much worse right as COVID-19 started up. My great grandfather did some video chats with us, I wish they weren’t my last memories of her, we caught her on bad days more often than not. My great grandfather is still around and I can’t imagine what he went through, they were together over 60 years. I think movies like this are incredibly important and when done well can start a conversation, great movie. Note: She passed away in her sleep, it might sound awful but everyone was relieved when we found out, we were just happy that she found peace.

[@TheFanalysisChannel]

Had to stop to spare myself the spoilers but your channel really has helped point me to some interesting horror titles, especially in the "found footage" sub-genre.

[@jiub5454]

I was just binging your videos and remembered this movie and wondered if you did a video on it, only to see you made this video today... this is surely no coincidence and something must have somehow influenced my mind to tell me that Ryan just uploaded this.

[@sjmsutherland]

I totally agree with you about the end, glad I'm not the only one who thought the ending was rushed!! It was so strong in the beginning, and the description and depiction of alzheimers in the film was really well explored. Having had first hand experience of dementia it really did hit me with how Debroah was portraid in this film!! Great video and discussion of a fairly good film.....how about about looking into The Visit next!??? I thought the twist in that was pretty good!!

[@helenhuff5286]

I agree about the VERY ending, I wanted more screentime from Sarah. I just finished it tonight. This movie was incredibly distressing to watch because so many people know what it’s like to have to take care of an elderly relative, and I’m in that boat presently. Another thing is that you see Deborah hurting herself and others, but you feel like if they are too forceful in restraining her, YOU could hurt her because if how thin and frail she is…that was super distressing💀💔🥀

[@jimmyrocha8417]

Honestly the emotional beats really add to the horror of the film. By the end I found myself more engaged in Sarah’s denial of what was going on then the possession itself. Not to mention I felt for Deborah so much through the entire film.