The Reality and Significance of Magick with Dean Radin

Dean Radin, PhD, is chief scientist at the Institute of Noetic Science in Novato, California. He is author of The Conscious Universe, Entangled Minds, Supernormal, and Real Magic.
Here he describes a series of personal synchronicities that both troubled him and led him toward a greater appreciation of esoteric forms of magick. He describes the many parallels between the traditions of psychical research and parapsychology and those of magick and the western esoteric tradition. The magical worldview, or philosophical idealism, also offers the possibility of better explaining the empirical findings of parapsychology. He also sees parallels between magickal rituals and parapsychological experiments.
New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in "parapsychology" ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is past-vice-president of the Association for Humanistic Psychology, and is the recipient of the Pathfinder Award from that association for his contributions to the study of consciousness.
(Recorded on November 21, 2018)
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This channel is just incredible. Not only does Jeffrey get amazing guests, he's also an amazing interviewer.

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[@edperry4235]

Absolutely

[@dieyoung]

It's like he knows something about everything he is so great

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[@nathanielm4033]

This is the best syncronicity story of all time!

[@kogazor]

Dean Radin is one of my favorite human beings. The clarity he brings through his research, the precise articulation of his findings, and his ability to connect it with the big picture is an invaluable gift to us all. Not to mention his sly sense of humor ;)

[@katherinewong2901]

Same! And Jeffrey Krypals self effacing manner. Sweethearts.

[@HolyCowMoments]

Bravo Dean for breaking through the ‘taboos’ and brining the artificial polarized worldview into a clearly focused relationship.

[@jessicahoskins8606]

What a thought-provoking topic and interview. I recently purchased multiple kindle edition titles by Dr. Dean Radin. Thanks Jeffrey Mishlove, this channel is great

[@prospero6337]

Dean Radin.....I am right on the same funky beat you are layin down. The Vedanta Brahman subject/object marriage is central. The greater understanding of Shakti is something that can give a path to why what can be done and what may be done. Dean...I had preordered Real Magic, way back when, after seeing a couple of your great lectures. All Thanks Magus. ;>. And thanks DR Mishlove for getting this interview....SuperGood. :>

[@EmpressLilith222]

“On the same funky beat you are laying down” 😎 I like that phrase...gonna have to use that 🙂

[@aphysique]

Dr. Radin & Dr. Mishlove.., Two of my favorite ppl on & around PSI & Esp type subject matter! Sure it's gonna be a wonderful & astute dialogue once again!

[@metaphysics3439]

Mr. Mishlove, this is one of the best videos you have ever produced! It's difficult for me to express the surge of energy I get when I learn that a man of science, through meticulous exploration, is arriving at some of the same ideas I've acquired through intuition. So encouraging! Fascinating. Thanks for all you do and keep up the good work.

[@Anand.Harprem]

Metaphysics I decided to see what people thought about this video.. I’ve been hipnotized for 40 minutes. 👁

[@tyanite1]

I can't thank you enough, Dr. Mishlove, for all you do. Honestly. Thank you. I find myself anxious to see each new interview. As always, this interview is stellar. So much to think about. Dr. Radin has made invaluable contributions to the field and will continue to do so.

[@johnbrowne8744]

Best interview I ever heard about Magic and Consciousness. Good job Jeffrey. 😊

[@justcurious4678]

Thank you Mr. Mishlove for again a very interesting and intelligent interview. I vieuwed most of all of your work and I appriciate them all. Lots of love from The Netherlands.

[@black_squall]

I had a 2 week period of an asburd number of synchronicities that cemented by believe in 'weirdness'. But I was struck with how mundane the synchronicites became by the end, as if some part of me stopped caring about their significance. Meanwhile I would have given my right leg to have such confirmations occur at other points in my life.

[@jfo3000]

When meditating regularly this happens to me as well. I log my synchronicities, looking back at them is astounding; the frequency of them. When it's happening on real time it's very cool. Then I do kind of take them for granted.

[@MichaelCarmichael]

Thanks to Jeffrey Mishlove for allowing new thinking and inviting new thinkers such as Dean Radin to his channel.

[@andytruideman9567]

this was again a great video. Dean Radin has surprises every time he comes on!!!

[@goliath257]

Dean Radin should at least have a Nobel prize nomination.

[@VictorianoOchoa]

Great interview

[@hireality]

Jeffrey Mishlove must be one of the worlds best interviewer. And Dean always a pleasure to listen to👏❤️

[@anonaki-mt6xb]

This discussion deeply resonates with my own experience as I have of late experienced multiple levels of simultaneous synchronicities, layer upon layer upon layer, so entertwined that even I am often challenged with acknowledging the objective reality of such multilayered co-occuring interconnectedness. I will point out that I am both a prior PsyD. candidate at the California Institute of Integral Studies and have been a mental health professional for over two decades. I am well aware of the clear distinctions between delusional and anomolous experiences as I am of correlations which also exist. These intermittent events leave me utterly dumbfounded as well as deeply moved.

[@alisterdyer]

WOW. Thank you for that. One of the best interviews yet. I have been following the field of parapsychology as a layman for most of my life as well as more esoteric disciplines and phenomena, so Jeffrey Mishlove interviewing Dean Radin was a real treat. I have recently finished reading Real Magic and catching up on Deans experimental work and I think he's really onto something, especially regarding pushing back established dogma / taboos in academia and research. Many thanks for all the work that goes into this channel, keep up the good work.

[@estrelasolar]

Dean Radin seems to be a reincarnation of someone who has lived the magic in other ages. Fascinating and very interesting interview.

[@雪鷹魚英語培訓的領航]

It was nice listening to the both of you. Good conversation.

[@MissBlackMetal]

I dont have the words to convey how amazing, cool, and interesting this is. It's so engaging and poignant, and it really makes you think. This is, I'm not exaggerating, the most interesting and informational channel on the esoteric that I've found. THANK YOU SO MUCH for conducting these interviews!!! I have added so many of your videos that I must watch!

[@juliefarrell3957]

Thank you for having Dean Radin ! ♥️❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🌀🏹✊🏼✊🏼

[@1000bouddhas]

Thank you Jeffrey for this great interview. The advances done in these fringe fields are so exciting! Now my advice: people... get the Real Magic book! I've found it life-altering in the greatest sense.

[@mahdibabaie2183]

I really enjoyed this show. TNX Jeff

[@TheEmotionalAlchemist]

What I found interesting is how Dean used experienced meditators for their ability to focus. I wondered if for the same reason you’d get a similar result if you used a brain surgeon or sniper, whose focus have to be pinpointed. Amazing talk, thank you Jeffrey

[@aphysique]

Would be interesting to say the least!

[@savedfaves]

Interesting idea. Olympics marksman, etc. Got to believe Dean has already thought of this.

[@pheresy1367]

Hey Dean, you look 10 years younger, very vibrant... great lighting and background, and the round horn rimmed glasses with go ti works very well. I always learn something new with your show Jeffrey, thank you... another great interview.

[@seanparnelleverett]

100% thumbs up. It's been a real pleasure & privilege to discover this channel & watch these videos. THANKS !

[@dianthas3498]

Excellent, mind-expanding discussion.

[@mcarbone4]

Excellent interview!! Absolutely love Dean Radin and his work. Thank you both.

[@katherinewong2901]

Whoa!!! Great story! So glad to see my fav psych geek here with you. Mahalo

[@LeeGee]

Astonishing. Please have Dean back soon! Many thanks!

[@darylsmith5930]

Incredible Podcast, please have Dean back!!!

[@cosmicdustparticle7481]

This was great...please have Dean back as soon as possible. A longer interview diving a little deeper would be awesome.

[@stellaa.attakpah653]

Absolutely the ultimate! Thanks for this brilliant interview Jeff.

[@MrGunwitch]

Brilliant interview, bravo Jeffrey and Dean!

[@Tablelegs123]

Skateboarding demonstrates many of the phenomenon described in this talk.

[@nonsensicus4548]

wonderful show with fantastic thinkers !! Thank you!

[@nickshires9537]

Even for a very busy guy, Dean gave me, a strange,r a lot of help with advice. He is a gentleman and actually has a great sense of humour.! Thanks Dr. Radin and Dr. Mishlove!

[@evergreen9388]

Such an amazing synchronicity story!

[@ForeverConsciousResearch]

Thank you as always for your hard work.

[@annohalloran6020]

In utilizing retro-causality I hope to rescue my extremely unhappy teenage self all these decades later.

[@amanitamuscaria7500]

Dean is one of my favourites. Real Magick is a great book

[@savedfaves]

Hopefully you can do another interview with Dean, Jeff. Both of you work very well together in this format. Great interview. Whacky comments, ensue!

[@JuanitaGrande]

Love this show. Looking vibrant, gents. You guys should do lunch. ✌🏼✌🏼

[@forevryng1]

I am so grateful to have found this channel on here. A wealth of information

[@sjatkins]

As I told a friend once, "If my stuff is here (tapping head) I can deal with that. If it is out walking around in the world then that is something else entirely."

[@clarekuehn4372]

Love this! 😍

[@modernmoongirl2362]

The difference between white and black magic is that you end spells with it being for the highest good to all and with harm to none leaving the Real Magic to the Creator. Magic requires disciplined practices which equally align you with your goals. The spiritual growth and connection allows the Universe to see your dreams!

[@chrisd6982]

I love Dean. Let's get the PsyQuest guy on as a guest Jeff! We can hear his side! :)

[@henriquemonteiro3403]

Fascinating! I'm a grimoire practitioner (Trithemius 's "Art of Drawing Spirits into Crystals" and the "Ars Almadel" of the Lemegeton). I'm available to talk. Also, I would recommend the host to interview other serious grimoire operators such as Bryan Garner (aka Frater Ashen Chassan) and Dr. Stephen Skinner.

[@tishainess9339]

Love NTA 💖💖💖 Mr Mishlove rocks 💖💖💖

[@johnpaul5474]

Very interesting. I'll watch again later (my mind, too, tends to wander). Thanks.

[@celtoscythae8911]

Maybe synchronicity happens when the "free will" of two or more aligns,then"magic" happens...but there must be the "agreement" of the alignment for the fate to of 2 to intertwine....??

[@clattereffect]

Great interview with Dean Radin!

[@sarahlang7724]

I literally love Dean Radin 😍😍😍 What an amazing mind!!!

[@anaruizguti]

I am glad I have just discovered this channel

[@micheleparker3780]

This was excellent!! Dean's right - this can be scary stuff, and the average person can't handle it. It made me think twice!😌

[@GloxGlox-nl4cd]

The fear element does exist, however seekers should seek seekers. The cream will rise to the top. Stay with high minded people. Humanity really does need to evolve. It would be nice if we did it sooner rather than later.

[@topherming6565]

44:03 It's very funny that he says "star people from Arcturus" because just hours ago I downloaded "A Voyage to Arcturus" to my Kindle after hearing Gary Lachman mention it in a talk.

[@tommcdaniel2208]

Enlightening and entertaining. Good interview with an interesting subject. Thanks!

[@mikebrown8052]

What a grounded highly intelligent man who I can agree with

[@jacquelineconquest6218]

Fascinating. The encounter with the two gentlemen discussed at the onset of the interview, sounds like a ‘waking dream’ occurred in the waking state. Which then would be more enlightening to understand the content of what just occurred from analyzing, like a dream, the metaphors being shown by the higher self to understand fully what just occurred. From my metaphysical understanding of the nature of realities, many years as a TM meditator and Transpersonal Therapist and Hypnotherapist; the collaboration did happen. But in had happened in the etheric plane or realm via the meditation/manifestation, perhaps some destiny (4 points of the compass) sprinkled in as well leading to the empirical evidence which was proved that it had happened once the two gentlemen had meet face to face. the brain is very limited in its understanding. Where as the imagination has access to other realms of thought, creativity and ways in which to break free from the limiting beliefs that we have of the notion that things need to go a certain way. when the universe unfolds a synergistic, delicious encounter rather than; grappling with the rational minds notion of what just happened it is important to STRETCH the imagination interpret the metaphors being reveling in the moment, just like a waking dream and then assess what did occur 'outside' the box of the limiting beliefs that get us stuck in missing the opportunity to ascend to a higher level of consciousness and from the vantage point explore what just occurred. Trusting that everything is in divine and perfect order. Our higher self will deliver what we are seeking but it will manifest in the material realm in another way sometimes. Appearing in another form but we get what we need NOT what we (the ego) want. therefore it is important not to assume our human brain has the answers but be open to our enlightened higher self to 'show us the way' via our imagination and explore with an open mind the miraculous way in which something manifested and reassess ones perception by raising consciousness at higher levels of thought accessed via other dimensions beyond the illusion of 3D. Then deduce from that higher level of consciousnesses, what just occurred and extrapolate the meaning unfolding an enlighten understanding which then raises ones consciousness to understand once again, we are all One, not that "free will" precludes the Oneness understanding. In summery, the notion that the collaboration had then not been pursued after the physical meeting missed the whole point that the collaboration had already taken place in another dimension. Hence, It was the rational mind presupposing that the two gentlemen were supposed to meet and collaborate in the physical. This experience seems to also reflect the ability to mental telepathy communicate, perhaps even remote viewing and law of attraction. Metaphorically, the relevance of the '4', is the meaning of coming full circle or also you are at the 4 points of the compass; which could also infer destiny.

[@evanboyack389]

Dean mentions that even expert meditators’ minds wander very quickly. What could be helpful is to use people who practice authentic ninjutsu. We are expert at short bursts of intention. We train it often especially at the more advanced levels. Just a thought.

[@pentegarn1]

I know what he means by "not having the effect you'd think it would" when it comes to big paranormal events. We once had little kid-like voices laughing at us from a woods in Gregory Michigan. These little creatures had total control over our flashlights, and every time we shined them at the spot the little voices came from...the flashlights died! And they would laugh even harder. A near by shed door started to rattle and when we turned to look at the house...it looked further away than it should have. Now if that happened tonight, I'm pretty sure I'd be up all night talking about it. But no, back then we went in and went right to sleep after this. Like it was no big deal. lol

[@afterburner8083]

Dean has not aged in the last 20 years.

[@MrSolver100]

Great video Jeffrey, quite fascinating. Not being familiar with the literature on the subject, I wondered if someone could perhaps help answer a question I had. Essentially when talking about the types of magical acts, specifically manifestation, I wondered if there is a counter practice centred on making things disappear? I'm aware of claims where healers have cured conditions leaving no trace of their former condition but wondered if this is achieved by intending to make the thing in question disappear or whether they seek to transform the thing or even manifest something that eradicates the thing in question. I know from a physics standpoint it is believed that energy cannot be destroyed but merely transformed. Thus, perhaps intention for transformation may be the logical approach. Any comments on this would be are most welcome.

[@KarlHainer]

Excellent interview.

[@RodCornholio]

Of all the rich and famous people, Dean's the only celebrity I want to meet and get an autograph.

[@100cockroach]

This is a great video.. Thanks a lot for the upload.

[@kirbycoe4293]

Love Dean Radin’s books.

[@JayBobJayBob]

I love the new backgrounds, with Jeffrey conducting the Skype interview from his shower and Dean inside his cave! Could we also rework the 1970s PBS music on the intro and exit into something more soothing and 2020 please?

[@_Darkhitect_]

Jeffery JEFFERY and Dean

[@setmelchizedek4491]

Thank you. It's exciting to know PSI is gaining acknowledgement and legitimacy. Whether one feels telepathy is good or bad, all will agree that the death of secrets is sure to be a very exciting event in the human story/civilization.

[@matt3phi]

Hey Jeffrey. A friend of mine found original files on Ted Owens in The university of Arizona. Dr.macdonalds files.

[@xzzero2519]

allbless you Jeffery

[@douglinze2187]

Excellent interview... I love it... I hope you have more guests on that discuss psi, that would be great. Quantum Mind=Magnetic Mind...

[@EROSNERdesign]

Fantastic! Thank you.

[@nicholaswilliams7]

So this is my testimony about getting back into the church after 10 years of being out of it. For awhile I was an atheist and then an agnostic, however, God delivered me out of a difficult and strange period of my life that left me without doubt of His existence and goodness. It's a bit of a long read, so bear with me. A couple weeks into February of 2018 I experienced some dreams of a strange nature during a time where I was isolated, depressed, and desperate. I've dealt with anxiety and depression for along time and I was at the end of my rope. I had considered seriously commiting suicide two years ago and when the depression hit this time I couldn't take it anymore. I was searching desperately for something that would allow me to leave the situation I was in. I was addicted to gaming and was very isolated. I also fell heavily into a series of books I was re-reading at the time that I had a great obsession with, The Dark Tower series by Stephen King. A few months into a reread of this series I had a dreams in February 2018 one of which I think was prophetic, having to do with seeing a woman and man in the dream that I later saw the next day while walking and while watching TV. This was a man and woman that I hadn't met or seen before.There were also aspects of the dreams (which I can't easily get into because it's difficult to explain due to the content) that led me to believe that The Dark Tower series having to do with parallel universes was real. I became convinced that there was a world parallel to ours, like the books, that I could gain access to if I used certain objects that I had in my possession . After weird events also began occuring in my home, with my television, and with me, I told my parents about all of it. They were adamant that what I was experiencing was demonic deception and that I should cease reading these books and give myself over to God. Being stubborn and delusional I decided to continue in what I thought was a great discovery and a way out of my situation. Events transpired over the next few days that left me in a state of confusion and despair. My father also ended up in the hospital that week. It wasn't until I began to cry out to Jesus that things began to change. I began to hear from God during this time. I felt like I should rid myself of the books as well as the stuff I had gathered connected to them. I eventually ended up getting rid of all the books and objects connected to them, as well as a lot of other stuff including my games. We were doing some work in my room at the time so luckily I had something to help keep my mind off what had been happening as well as grow in the word from listening to 107.9 on my radio. When we finally returned to church a couple weeks later the sermon and series was about the book of Daniel, some of which has to do with prophetic dreams and visions among other things. I know now that this wasn't a coincidence. Once I started getting involved in the church again and reading the Bible I found out that these things really aren't as uncommon or unbelievable as they seem. My mens bible study at the time had members that had experienced supernatural and amazing things as well. I know this isn't going to sound credible if you aren't a Christian. Back when I didn't believe, these stories didn't seem compelling or true to me. However I can tell you that if you reach out to God wholeheartedly he will reveal himself to you. I'd like to ask that if you're going through something right now, some kind of challenge or difficulty that you reach out to God and ask him to help you. Sometimes it may not seem like anything is happening, but if you're willing to hold on and push through you can see him move in your situation in miraculous ways. Here's more about the Gospel here: www.tvcresources.net/resource-library/articles/the-gospel-of-jesus-christ If any of you would like to receive or feel led to receive Jesus Christ as your saviour pray this and believe it with all your heart. ❤️ Dear God, I know that I am a sinner and there is nothing that I can do to save myself. I confess my complete helplessness to forgive my own sin or to work my way to heaven. At this moment I trust Christ alone as the One who bore my sin when He died on the cross. I believe that He did all that will ever be necessary for me to stand in your holy presence. I thank you that Christ was raised from the dead as a guarantee of my own resurrection. As best as I can, I now transfer my trust to Him. I am grateful that He has promised to receive me despite my many sins and failures. Father, I take you at your word. I thank you that I can face death now that you are my Savior. Thank you for the assurance that you will walk with me through the deep valley. Thank you for hearing this prayer. In Jesus’ Name. Amen. Good luck and may God bless you! And remember satan is a spirit of fear...

[@danielduarte2139]

Just brilliant!

[@Connaissances3]

A great interviewer

[@matthewrandall9833]

Lol can't beleive I have found this on ur channel I have just plugged all his books on one of your other podcasts, awesome

[@_DontEatCake2024_]

For an excellent movie that tells a great story about the use of Magick, see "A Dark Song" which came out in 2016. (But don't look it up on Wiki, because Wiki literally gives the whole story away, and it's SO much better to see the whole story unfold without knowing what is going to happen).

[@bennguyen1313]

On Tim Ferriss' podcast, Scott Adams recounts an equally spooky story on concentrating on something and manifesting it! BTW, any particular grimoire book(s) that you'd recommend to do scientific testing on? BTW, I think Leo Laporte lives near Institute of Noetic Sciences Petaluma too!

[@reck0n3r]

"People fear what they don't understand and hate what they can't conquer."

[@anefriend]

Does anyone else think that he looks like Paul Brunton?

[@Flanalb9]

I thought the point about physicalism's being 'alive and well' was a good one. Now it is still up to us to figure out how to demonstrate the more fundamental level of awareness. Is it ever to be cloistered in the Knowing of the Subjective, or is there a way to look from the physicalist point of view and see the reality of the deeper level(s)? So far, it seems that psi research has given us an intuitive glimpse (but as Dr. Radin says, we don't know what it is that is happening.)

[@michaelblankenstein]

I know it's a while since this interview was published, but has anyone to your knowledge interviewed Criss Angel? I know he is a very talented magician, but it has also been rumored that he may be more than that.

[@alexandercripple4469]

It was very good!

[@philipofsparta1355]

I'm wondering if the problem of interfering in 'free will' could be bypassed by thinking of Dr Radin's experience as mere coincidence, but still a coincidence where two free individuals attracted their individual desires out of an infinity of life experiences? A multiverse?

[@edperry4235]

The marriage of parapsychology and ancient practices of magick and shamanism is long overdue. (Or rather, the recognition of it.)

[@mattbutler6742]

Though I accept persecution has been a disincentive for people to openly talk about psychic phenomena yogis don’t talk about siddhi being dangerous so much because of that, rather they talk more of not dwelling on them or being seduced by them as they distract you from the ultimate goal of enlightenment. They are just a by product of the process

[@Jimmy-el2gh]

I've experienced telekinesis twice in my life when I was in anger electrical phenomena and moving objects

[@ELAV8Consciousness]

Excellent

[@tfsheahan2265]

Would it be possible to explain the backgrounds behind the two of you, and why you chose them?

[@alcosmic]

Great!

[@pgh412east]

I wish he would go back and talk to that guy. The one who had the office.. Something great would have come of that. If not great, significant to say the least.

[@LaughingStock71]

Looks like I got my Christmas present two weeks earlier this year - Thanks a lot! Ah, and to the downvoters: Would you mind volunteering in some of my private and yet unapproved DMILS experiments? Just choking! :-)

[@SW-wf3gy]

Great interview. I can think of Master Choa Kok Sui who was a mystical teacher and yogi was a super magician. Many cases of people who were handicapped or ill that were instantly healed with other psychic phenomenon such as manifestation etc They are documented by some of his contemporaries or students. . Also I can think of at least 3 tibetan masters who could change weather. Another one could change the perception of time of thousands of people who saw the sun stayed in the sky for many hours longer than normal. In Tibet and Bhutan, they had something called speed walked. I personally know of accounts of famous yogis who could pass through walls, levitate, bilocate, or voluntarily pass away without any external interference. Many such accounts in Tibet or elsewhere etc. There are still such people in Tibet, Nepal etc. There must be millions of people out there who can do amazing super psychic/ magic work around the world. But many of these people are hidden.