The Reality at the U.S./Mexico Border (with Vincent ‘Rocco’ Vargas)| CA #5

Today on Change Agents, Andy Stumpf sits down with Vincent "Rocco" Vargas, in an interview recorded in L.A.
Vincent Vargas is a special operations combat veteran (2nd Ranger Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment), actor, writer, and producer. After his time in the military and a stint as a prison guard, he became a BORSTAR Agent - a member of the Border Patrol Search, Trauma, and Rescue Unit attached to BORTAC, the Border Patrol Tactical Unit.
Today, you can see Rocco on the FX series Mayans MC, and his book, “Borderline: Defending the Home Front” releases this fall.
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00:00 - Intro
1:00 - Who is Vincent ‘Rocco’ Vargas
3:00 - Why Border Patrol
7:50 - What Politics Don't Tell You About Border Control
23:00 - Catching Criminals at the Border
26:00 - How The U.S./Mexico Border Is Controlled By The Cartel
31:00 - Border Control's Biggest Challenges
39:00 - How People Can Support Border Control

[@thisisironclad]

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[@trickywoo5165]

Would poor people from second & third world being round up & sent to every western nation by HIAS even be possible,if’ intelligence agencies like the see 👁 Å & or mo$$ad wasn’t doing constant “GAE” ops in South America etc. 🤨?’

[@cbboiii1100]

I work in the oilfield. We currently have a contract in south Texas. You hear stories of truck drivers disappearing because they pulled over to take a leak. You hear about people literally on location being kidnapped and murdered just off location because there was a lack of lighting in that area. The real crazy shit is if you see people laying in the road or trying to flag you down, local police and even border patrol tell oilfield workers specifically to run them over. Under no circumstance should you stop. Women, children, the elderly, DO NOT STOP! They are there to kill you. It's always those that are the farthest away from the border are the loudest on the issue. Fuck the patch rules, I stay strapped. This is real and it's very dangerous

[@MaximillianJ]

thanks for the info. you are spot on about the loudest people aren't in the South/Southwest.

[@cordyg4306]

Military soldiers as well missing/dead.

[@valeriehancotte-galan4790]

Maximilian, the southern border is just one of our borders. Others are dangerous, too!

[@texasfender7435]

Overdramatic comment. I live in south texas. Never been around drugs or heard of people getting kidnapped and the Mexican border is right behind my house. Law enforcement do a great job keeping it safe

[@cbboiii1100]

@@texasfender7435 Things happen beyond the border. Not an over dramatic comment by any means. Don't believe me? Go tot he oil field in STX and find out for yourself. Some pads you have armed guards guiding you to the pad

[@IanWrigleyNZ]

These episodes are running the risk of making Andy appear to be a far more serious person than he likes to let on. I'm here for it.

[@agoodnana]

Finally, a reasonable, knowledgeable, intelligent, heartfelt conversation about immigration and the southern border AND free of politics! Thank you!

[@SlimShady771]

Unfortunately what's happened isn't normal, it's being funded and done on purpose by countries like Israel and people like George Soros and the globalists. The same thing is happening in Europe. It's a planned destruction of the western countries and the white race.

[@andrewalvarez7121]

100% agree. Outstanding episode, addressing all realities of the topic, which is so uncommonly rare. Appreciate Andy and Rocco tremendously 🙏🏼

[@domorocks21]

Spent time at the border with the Texas Guard before I finished my contract. This interview was spot on with with what I was thinking while I was down there. It’s refreshing to hear a POV that’s not either worshiping our presence down there or hating our guts. Thanks for sharing this man’s experiences

[@JayDubb3BCT]

This was an eye opening dive into what issues our Boarder Patrol have to deal with. Thank you gentlemen for this conversation.

[@thisisironclad]

Thanks For Watching Jay! More To Come 🎬🎥💪

[@LMarieMontes]

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[@hadassah179]

Mad respect to these guys who are *real* Fathers to their kids who actually keep it REAL with them and how to apply quick self defense in their lives from the predators and other realities these Dads have had to face for themselves! The world needs more Knights. ✊🏼

[@seanwhite304]

Man cant wait . I hope he gets prime time Border Patrol Show that he was talking with Carr about . That would be so bad ass

[@BJ-nr5oj]

I met you years ago when you RST with my unit for a range event. The impression that you made stays true to this day. I am honored to have met and served with you.

[@BirdDawg1]

I appreciate the direction of this channel.

[@michaelwise6970]

Yeah it's great 👍

[@colinhoeg4728]

I've always loved this guy. Super level headed

[@MrAsianKid]

Vincent is a really well-thought out and well-spoken yet raw guy, perfect match with Andy. Great episode.

[@thisisironclad]

💪

[@busbey61]

A Andy Stumpf/PatMac (Pat McNamara) episode would be a good one!

[@DarkCavalry1228]

Real work gentlemen. Thank you. The water scenario hit me hard through the chest to the back of my spine.

[@joserubio1009]

Man we needed like 2-3 hours. Great interview!

[@busbey61]

Look up Drinkin Bros, Rocco was apart of their original podcast.

[@boyertb]

Out-freakin-standing. Thank you Rocco, and the Ironclad team for this conversation.

[@debrafisher7373]

This is possibly the most meaningful conversation I've ever heard on the immigration issue. Great episode!

[@LPCliftonMusic]

Man, I am loving these episodes. Andy is the perfect person for this type of content.

[@jameswalker2508]

Concur.

[@thisisironclad]

💪💪💪

[@rezzyn94]

Agreed. I don’t know how he has time to do such a great job while also being the CEO of Black Rifle

[@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330]

@@rezzyn94 exactly. It’s very kind of him to let Even pretend to be CEO.

[@andrewnorwood3288]

@@rezzyn94 🤣

[@noahcampbell305]

Awesome episode. Can’t get enough of Rocco! 🇺🇸

[@Cookies205]

Would love longer episodes Andy! Thanks for putting this stuff out

[@thisisironclad]

Appreciate the feed back Cookies! 💪💪

[@JaymeeKay]

You just rocked my world with an enlightened viewpoint. Thank you. Keep having these important conversations.

[@tysonvanwagoner57]

We need more private journalism like this. Keep it up!

[@RahimLadhajuma]

Always the best and also growing podcasts in terms of quality. Keep it up IRONCLAD 🙏🏼👌🏼 Cheers.

[@josephdowless3092]

Andy is Absolutely my favorite interviewer on KZbin. Stay the course

[@kevingarystaub5925]

Really good talk! Thanks for having the conversation!

[@antoniomilone5472]

Got so much more knowledge and what I feel are actual facts from this more than any news outlet or politician. I'm looking forward to more. Keep up the great work, Andy. Appreciate you and your team putting all this together.

[@ShaneCopelin]

I really love these videos. I'd love to have some of them fleshed out over multiple episodes. I feel like these are a very polished version of the podcast cleared hot. I think with the production level and the time spent building these out you could do some in depth showing of the things that are covered by the guests.

[@rudyroque4685]

Man this was such a good interview. I've only seen Rocco on Mayans and dude has such a hard-core character on that show, but to see this side of him is so cool. I'm glad I came across this vid. I'm subscribed.

[@tristanthomson6400]

Just got finished with some wild fire training and get to sit back and watch this! Todays a good day for learning boys

[@directorDex]

Just discovered this channel but when I saw Andy Stumpf I knew I'd love it. Your episode about sex trafficking was also top notch. New subscriber fo sho.

[@thisisironclad]

❤

[@9livesspent339]

Thank you! “Once we veer off left or right it’s over” wish more people thought this way.

[@IvanCardenas-zw3so]

Awesome vid, thank you for sharing

[@Scorpiondethbite]

What an amazing and absolutely real conversation!!! I applaud you both 👏

[@thisisironclad]

Appreciate The Support Eric! 👍

[@owenasmr.m2743]

This was one of the best conversations I’ve ever had the pleasure of listening to

[@JonathanS70-np1on]

This guy is genuinely smart and knows what’s holding our country back. Notice how he didn’t say anything about closing our borders, build a wall. He didn’t go into sugar coating anything. And didn’t go into a political agenda view. Once you go into left or right. It’s all over. Our immigration system is broken. I also believe if we would talk to our South, Central & North American presidential leaders where we can work together as a whole nation and make immigrating to U.S.A a choice rather than a obligation. We would have a slower rate of immigrants that is much more manageable to process.

[@jessedukelacrosse6470]

Lol talking does nothing, but giving Central American, Mexican governments a few billion dollars like they just hand out to Ukraine would definitely help to pay people to stay maybe create more jobs , the wall is needed , never will stop whoever is determined to get through but will definitely deter and make it harder

[@JonathanS70-np1on]

@@jessedukelacrosse6470 It's always been about creating imaginary borders since 1855 with our southern neighbor, rather than addressing today's immigration crisis that comes from Central America. Mexicans aren't really the ones immigrating to the U.S.A. We see many Mexicans simply because these lands were Mexico before the Guadalupe-Hidalgo Treaty. The majority of people in the states are against a wall. 'Majority of the public opposes substantial expansion of U.S-Mexico border.' With any presidential candidate knowing this as a fact, why not find common ground between the 'left' and 'right' wings to address the problem of people coming in the first place, or at least greatly decreasing the numbers of immigrants leaving Central America? That's not to say security shouldn't exist, but rather enforce it. Create a smart border security system with advanced AI recognition camera technology so we can prioritize our border patrol to these sections and apprehend terrorist groups or anyone who poses a high-security risk in the act of crossing. Fixing the broken immigration system: People crossing illegally who claim asylum are processed faster than the ones going to a port of entry? We have this all backwards. It should be the port of entry that is processed faster than the ones crossing illegally. That's why they cross illegally. We need to bring solutions and vote for candidates that bring unity for the people, not divide us into this left and right agenda. And leave that mindset of 'my party can't do no wrong.' We need to be transparent and non bias. Anyways take care brother and God bless you!

[@grudgelife7786]

What a Powerful and Enlightened conversation, much is learned hear as well as an excellent job of bringing everything in Focus. Have always Respected Andy and his s.Seal background and Rocco is the same Caliber Human. You can tell he is speaking from the Heart. Just awesome.

[@Hawkgx28Pyro]

Super powerful with Rocco's insight. Loving the Change Agents series and already was a fan of the Cleared Hot Podcast.

[@BlahKDubstep]

I am mad. Mad that this conversation wasn’t longer. Great topic, Great conversation.

[@kimberlyhendricks1274]

New to this channel, but WOW! What a great interview!

[@hotdog7214]

Insane. Learned so much from this. And I randomly came across his banditos armory show yesterday ha.

[@matthewcarson7787]

Great Interview and series!

[@jeffturbo904]

This was a fantastic interview. Keep them coming!!

[@thisisironclad]

Every Monday! 💪💪

[@serrgo8255]

I remember sitting with Rocco at Twin Peaks in El Paso saying he was going to quit Border Patrol…….. at the time I thought he was crazy… but Oh God was I wrong… having conversations like these will get to more people than being on the border hooking and bookin….. Saludos Hermano 🫡

[@serrgo8255]

Almost got to that party late with the Hawaian bday cake 😂, happy for him

[@51234ad]

That’s a lie

[@perrypack2310]

I'd imagine this an evolving situation with each generation, politics and security shift and change. Thank you all for protecting this great nation.

[@ryanm5909]

My wife is from Chile and I was born in the US. I remember the frustrations and all the red tape involved just trying to get spousal visa and green card for a 2 year visa to come to the US for her. We did not have alot of money to hire a lawyer to help us with paperwork, so we did it on our own. But I remember being so frustrated the policies and the goverment. It was a year long process. In the end, I got her here. after 2 years we decided to move back to her home of Chile, the process for my first visa was 2 months or so, but this was 10 years ago. I have renewed twice now and the process is longer now after the pandemic and other country issues. So I have seen both sides of the process for 2 countries. I feel for the men and women that do this job, it is not easy. Thanks for the interview.

[@kyle80hockey]

This series is awesome, great interviews Andy!

[@thisisironclad]

Appreciate The Support Kyle! 💪

[@birdman7687]

The. Biggest message from this interview… count you blessings, every single day.

[@caiotefu9856]

I've been looking for this pod.

[@josephshoemate9933]

By far my favorite episode. My perspective has changed so much just from this episode. Loved it!! So much added info since he was with Jack Carr. Lol. ❤

[@jamesm8397]

Loving these keep em coming!

[@thisisironclad]

Every Monday! 💪

[@allendaigle1471]

I've enjoyed every episode so far. Nice to get insight and perspective from the actual people. Who deal with these issues on a day to day basis.

[@thisisironclad]

Thanks For Watching Allen! Only More To Come 🎬🎥

[@AlaskaJiuJitsu]

"I was too dark skinned for some friends and too light skin for others", bro that touched my soul. Imagine when everyone realizes we are mixed ethnicites.

[@2K9s]

Imagine when everyone realizes we’re *all* American’s…

[@elettramia6380]

@@2K9s yes because America is a continent not a country

[@elettramia6380]

@@2K9s 😂😂😂😂I can see you are guessing, and you guessed WRONG. I am second generation North American and yes America is a continent Not a place located in the USA. The only people who use a continental term such as America in reference to solely a country in the entire American continent are Uneducated, culturally incompetent people. Just like it would be uneducated and sound very dumb to refer to one country in Africa as Africa, or one place in Europe as Europe, or one place in Asia as Asia. But that’s what happens when a country such as the USA Does Not Focus on proper education. People start to believe a continent is a country. South America, Central America and North America. There’s a reason as to why they all have the term America in them. And fyi around the world when referring to Americans they mean everyone in the American continent, Not just the people of the USA. Because other countries are aware that America is a continent, and that will Never change. To believe so is delirious. Also you said “ethnic identity” which refer to ETHNICITY, the USA nationality is a Nationality Not an ethnicity. And if you are ethnically American that would make you a descendant from the indigenous populations of North, south Central America and Mexico. Again, USA “education” has failed, and I refuse to believe it failed on accident. Want to control your citizens, begin with controlling their minds from a young age.

[@2K9s]

@@elettramia6380 Americans - a native or citizen of the United States.

[@mandykay19]

I think everyone should watch this. Just like in all things in life, balance is key. Political issues are only hindering progress at the border. I feel blessed to have been born here and would love to see those good hearted people find sanctuary here. But just as good as some of them are, others are just as bad. Love this episode and am now a subscriber. :) Great guest to have on. He seems to have the perfect balance of heart and head for the job he did.

[@tyiam3533]

Thank you for this.

[@KZAHNCHO]

This entire interview was a brilliant.

[@Shadow65...]

Hell ya!!! Keep up the great work

[@robf8023]

That's my friend right there!!! Love You Vinny!!

[@nita36963]

The real problem is accepting someone from El Salvador who has obviously come through Mexico to get to the US border. Once that person crosses into the southern Mexican border then they are Mexico’s problem, not ours & should not be allowed to apply for asylum in the USA. If that part of the process alone would change then the entire immigration/illegal migration would change for the better immediately.

[@lisahughes3207]

This is great you're doing these, these issues are so underrated and rarely spoken about. Human trafficking happens all the time, at the poverty level, yet no one talks about that. Not just children; we're talking men, women, and even grandmothers. These immigrants are so often preyed on once the come here. It's sickening. Keep up the good work you guys, very informative...

[@katno9936]

Nuanced and thoughtful, as all debate should be. Great

[@JenniferAguiartampa]

It feels like an impossible situation. We can’t take them all. It makes me sick the number of people in this country who think “it’s a terrible country” when people are willing to risk their lives to live here.

[@facelesssman]

Such a good discussion.

[@travisbond635]

Great show brother

[@Mhm136]

Great episode

[@KC-7mm]

Great to hear Vinny’s view on the border issues it gave me more perspective. Not knowing shit first hand of what he felt when he stepped away seams like a common theme with top tear dudes copping and navigating through that stuff seams like something that really needs to be addressed. From the outside looking in its seams that engagement no engagement he should feel no guilt stepping away for family for the simple fact there’s a dude highly trained to step in and do the job there should be no guilt and if there is this is a single man’s game or a short career path at some point you have to keep shit right with the family. I’m only saying anything for the fact that it was hard to see him have guilt in being a father.

[@jeneckhardt5482]

I'm so glad I stopped scrolling and watched this. So much I didn't know! Thank you!

[@RAIDERinc.]

All due respect, it’s been a while since he worked for DHS. The border has changed a lot since his time. It IS being flooded by waves of hundreds.

[@art2736]

Always been an ebb and flow. That's your politics speaking.

[@bidencrimefamilymottof-cky953]

I also think most coming now don’t want to assimilate. They don’t want to become Americans. They want what we have and are giving to them. Big big big difference in the type of person coming now vs even 3-4 years ago.

[@bigdawg3146]

Thousands

[@alexeinazario8677]

Excellent explanation, wish our politicians where are open and honest as you. Big Thank You

[@Getn_it.]

I wish this one was 5 hours long

[@williamblack1137]

Bravo gentleman, Godspeed.

[@joelmatteson8117]

Great content as always, but dang there are so many embedded ads my blocker can’t keep up LOL

[@cadebaker6017]

I could listen to this dude talk all day long.

[@maxcullen3427]

Rocco you’ve definitely lived a proper life ranger boarder guard actor ECT but best is way ur a great DAD too your whole team respect earned sir obviously well grounded human being 👏🏻👏🏻🫡🫡👏🏻👏🏻

[@bhughes9258]

Yep. Much respect.

[@OPAIK]

Andy is a legend. What a speaker

[@williamchase5698]

20 years in the patrol.....the struggle is real...... good interview!

[@thisisironclad]

Thanks For Watching William! Only More To Come 💪

[@littlespressurewashing]

Just subscribed

[@soldiermedic81]

Thanks for posting! I think I found my tribe.

[@rodvikvr]

💯 Excellent conversation. Get rid of politics and let's fix this.

[@nightlab6576]

BRAVO WAY TO GO VINCE WELL DONE !!

[@vinniepazzz]

Great first and middle name! 🎉

[@JJJ-zs5nw]

People need to travel. I learned how good we have it. I always said” I would rather be homeless in the USA than live in some other country in a house.”

[@adamsapple5355]

Wow I love it.

[@TONYREYES53]

Awesome

[@boost7983]

The Border Patrol - what would we do without them ? Politics aside, I appreciate the sacrifices they make, in an effort to preserve, and protect our country. Much respect.

[@SONofLIBERTY]

Damn Andy. This is the guy from the Border Patrol that I wish was on the Cleared Hot podcast last week.

[@huntingarete9214]

Guys great work with Change Agents. Long time follower and listener to Andy. But on the Merch, postage is killing you if ordering to Australia. Otherwise Id be on it in a heartbeat. Keep 'em coming and try find a alternate solutions to postage. Thanks All

[@jt.124]

this is journalism!

[@dforgash]

Such an eye opening episode! Great job guys... Makes you really think about what is the real/right policy choices.

[@rezdog187]

Send them all home!!!

[@busbey61]

Now I would like to see a Derek Weida, Ross Patterson and a Dan Hollaway interview, then I think Andy would have interviewed the original Drinkin Bros and BRCC people! Wonder if Andy will even mention Range 15....

[@susannesmith6830]

Wow, This interview definitely gave me a new perspective. It was especially refreshing to hear positive talk about what it means to be American!!!

[@geoffreywilds4173]

Quick question, I'm a Navy supply corps officer in an expeditionary billet. What can I do in border patrol to help folks?

[@maxgodfrey1483]

love this series. great episode. W

[@badboy1028]

I like this podcast

[@baldhairyandfatguy]

Rocco is a great human. He also throws nice hands.

[@thisisironclad]

lol

[@joshjackson8432]

Great trash gentlemen. I would like to see brass and boots have this kind of sit down man. Top down talks on this and trafficking the war on drugs. We the people need to here the people in the job talk about these jobs.Thank you guys so much.

[@KillierElite]

That was heavy

[@jonny_chain1970]

Yup, it’s title 42 it’s constantly at the edge of being lifted and we start getting a influx. ROCCO!!!! Didn’t know you were BORTAC pretty sick

[@philsatariano3849]

About time someone says what’s there

[@chrisdilley266]

An incredible interview, wish all elected officials would watch this episode.