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[@leelee353]

“I’m happy to say i never cheated since then and haven’t been tempted at all” Lmao lets all clap for the cheater gf yall. She did the bare minimum.

[@justarjen]

And then she does again shortly afterwards. She could not even do the minimum

[@InspirationalJapaneseMap-vu6vy]

😂😂😂 the tooo proud of her self!!

[@mettatonex7221]

@@justarjen "I've made good progress. I think I've earned a little cake."

[@madohomus]

right, what a piece of work 😭

[@nataliehoo840]

Agree. The common bare minimum was like some hard ass work for her . Don't blame the man if he has a list of things because he doesn't want to get hurt nor fool again. He has trust issues because she has lying issues . Period.

[@RubyMadigan]

There's a further update to story 3: She left her fiancé for the guy at work and he actually is divorcing his wife (more like she is divorcing him)... But it turns out he was lying to OP and dating a bunch of other women as well as her. Is anyone shocked? OP apparently was. OP is now back to saying she realises ex-finance was the love of her life. She reached out to him but he turned her down (good on him!). Apparently she has 'learned from her actions' and is 'moving on'.

[@scblei9848]

Thank you for this! Not surprised at all, but I wish she actually would learn from her actions instead of just saying she has over and over and doing the exact same stuff

[@toastybr3ad116]

i thought you said “ update to the story :3 ”

[@NLAWScametovisit]

god this is the messy content i crave

[@hiima2860]

Karma's a b*tch lmao

[@hiima2860]

Also can someone send this story link?

[@Sonata0727]

Y'all gotta read the replies of the OP in the third story. "This is completely different. The first time I cheated was because I was selfish, this time it was because I fell in love with someone else. I didn’t choose this , no one picks who they love. This whole experience has taught me how complex love is and that I never been in love before" is something she actually said😭

[@chickensandwich8808]

Yeah I read that story before, and she is... completely self centered and clueless/.

[@meggsntoast]

She’s insane to think she’s emotionally mature enough to be in a relationship

[@itsasquid]

I don't believe this story is real. I just can't.

[@h0neychai]

girl is delu-lu

[@hvnterly8388]

If she’s older than 24 I’m shocked

[@fortifyjoy]

Destroying a $200 item that your partner bought is always a red flag regardless of whether you think it is a stupid item

[@isthisfood523]

Yes, especially something that he’s so obviously excited about. We know she’s not interested in it, and that’s fine. Couples don’t need to be interested in the same things, but you should at least have respect for what your partner cares about. I love hearing people that I care about talk about things they’re passionate about, even if it’s not my interest, so destroying something he was so excited about is just unimaginable to me.

[@kitcobb6046]

@@isthisfood523And for the Smosh group to just completely gloss over that? They didn’t care that the steaks were special to the OP, they only cared that the girlfriend had no interest in it.

[@bobjones42069]

​@@kitcobb6046to be fair, at around 7:00, the other two kinda were like uhhhh when she tried to justify it

[@Mauvefalcone]

@@bobjones42069bro they are just defending the girl it’s crazy😭

[@Grafiktwilight84]

Their whole relationship is a dumpster fire.

[@jasquerotte9151]

> cheats > promises not to cheat > cheats > promises not to cheat > cheats She's trying to reach the "least trustworthy person on earth" record

[@helenlewis2510]

She really thinks he’s going to leave his wife for her, completely delusional

[@chelsiruiz1886]

Carrie Bradshaw!!!!

[@alm3na284]

Once a cheater always a cheater

[@darrenromano617]

​@@chelsiruiz1886Yes, Carried Bradshaw. Took the words right out of my mouth. And then she married Mr. Big, the guy she cheated with when she was with Aiden, and then cheated again on Mr. Big with Aiden when they were already married. Toxic AF.

[@disinterestedhomo6002]

"an unimaginable situation" yeah I literally could never imagine finding myself doing that to someone

[@regretposting]

The boyfriend in the second story randomly confessing that he cheated on her with 2 different women absolutely FLOORED me

[@xelastarkly]

"But you're the one!" "Which one??"

[@stevenreed6789]

"He wasn't happy in the relationship" at least that's there logic when the girl cheated with a family friend

[@blazypika2]

​@@stevenreed6789 dude, why are you acting like they defended herz when it's very clear they didn't. they gave an explanation on why she would do it again and why the dude should just break up with her for his own sake.

[@dylanburton4955]

@@stevenreed6789That comment isn’t them saying it’s okay, it’s just stating a pretty common fact cuz that often is the reason people do it It’s completely wrong and not the way people should deal with their unhappiness but people can be dumb

[@pd96851]

Tommy Lee Jones is CRAZY 😭 That man is 70 something

[@lawnylawnington]

first story girlfriend: "You're wasting money on expensive food 😮" also her: *purposefully burns $200 steak*

[@ikeafoodmanager9251]

OMG LITERLLY i was going to comment this. She's lowkey insane

[@skyeote5982]

WAS GONNA COMMENT THIS LOL

[@myrezz8833]

They both sound insufferable and should break up for that reason.

[@dk240996]

I can't believe how much they all sat on the fence about that story.

[@Milk-ck1wv]

EXACTLY. That's what I thought! What the hell!

[@xxomri1993]

About the first story, cancelling the dinner doesn't necessarily constitute revenge. After she destroys something important to him, just sitting down for dinner with her and her family like nothing happened is going to be very uncomfortable. He has every right not to want to be in this situation.

[@Ballhair]

That's what I'm thinking! It's not revenge - it's the consequences of her actions!

[@n7meg]

And she was mad at him for "wasting money" after wasting $200 worth of food. So cancelling the dinner prevented wasting more money on an awful meal. Of course she got mad, because the money wasn't used on her like she wanted

[@oljenka88]

They both sound bad in their own ways tbh

[@MrFox-xr9cc]

Absolutely. And by destroying EXPENSIVE FOOD she just proved that it would be a waste to go to an EXPENSIVE RESTAURANT with her. Also from the way he tells things, it does seem like he has quite some money and is sponsoring her...

[@oreki22]

Gotta be honest, destroying the steaks in break-up worthy to me. Personally, I don't really care about steaks, but OP clearly does. If a partner destroys something YOU enjoy just because they don't; just leave.

[@emmortalv]

For the stalker guy, had he kidnapped her, he 100% would’ve SA’d her under the delusion that she was in love with him. It also very likely would have turned to murder if she ever convinced him that she wasn’t in love with him or if he decided that if he couldn’t have her, then no one could. I’m extremely glad that the OP was able to get out of that situation and move before anything happened. And that she had some incredible therapy and has, hopefully, come out of this relatively okay.

[@jadaskyenichols]

^yep, when i had a stalker that is precisely what he told me his plans were when discussing his desire to kidnap me

[@ESPHMacD]

Yep, pretty sure I’ve seen this episode of Criminal Minds. If she didn’t play into his delusion it would for sure make it worse, and if he ever got her alone it would for sure end up with her dead. She may not be willing, but her dead body will be (grossest thing I’ve ever written, but it’s the sick truth) as well as any poor unfortunate woman he would take to be her replacement if she fails. So horrifying.

[@turnipcrazy]

Yeah, the guy sounds exactly like Joe from You. Builds up the fantasy and infatuation for the girl. Believes she loves him too, but the second their alone and she isn't either his fantasy or in love with him, he'll either lock her away or just straight up kill her.

[@cascadeblue9]

that guy is literally the main character from You

[@JDSmith2030]

@@cascadeblue9that’s what I said. I was like this is “You” irl. So scary.

[@quasalor1480]

Shayne's voice reading creepy diary entries is so jarring because he's so kind and sweet, and those entries are so psychotic.

[@nickl7734]

I think Shayne’s voice reading it just makes it sound more psychotic

[@awkwardpawsome]

​@@nickl7734💯

[@akenohononiku916]

Especially because there's barely any intonation

[@unijade]

Much respect, but I think you mean "psychopathic", which is very different. People with psychosis suffer from something similar to schizophrenia, people with psychopathy are just evil spirited.

[@Hooples]

​@@unijadeyou have an incorrect definition of psychosis. Psychosis is just an acute state of your mind not processing reality accurately, with many different symptoms depending on other things.

[@rebekkahkoehler3317]

The dad's Valentines gift is so sweet. The BF is weird for putting anything other than family love on it.

[@ladymorrigan5950]

Yeah. The bf is the creepy one.

[@CabbitPatchKiddo]

I’m 34 and my dad still sends my sister, my mother and, me flowers.

[@KatieKatt18]

My mom gives me, my brother, and sister candy and card every year for Valentine’s Day there’s nothing wrong with it

[@browhattheactualfu-2659]

Yeah it's so normal for my father to get me and my siblings gifts for Valentine's day. In fact, every family I know does that. The bf is the odd one out

[@robo7643]

My dad used to give me chocolates every year for Valentine's, it's just a nice thing

[@DragonbornMike-ym2er]

Story 3: OP cheats with a family friend. OP begs for forgiveness and is tsken back. She then secretly rebuilds a "friendship" with the "friend". And now she wants to pull the victim card? Like, dude would be way better off just fumping her. But she doesn't deserve sympathy for being held accountable for her choices. And then the updates, jeez. Some people should just stay single.

[@pessolano461]

I like how during the reading of the stalker entries, Amanda and Tommy momentarily paused their horror to acknowledge how good the OOP's outfit was.

[@BubuBORG]

Amanda: Cute? Tommy: Cute! 😊

[@sydneysullins]

The complete lack of self-awareness in the third story is astounding. Her entire rationalization and priority of her own feelings paired with the expectation of no responsibility is so common for cheaters in order to stomach their own shitty behavior because, truly, violating your partner’s trust and loyalty is one of the worst things people are capable of. She wasn’t looking for the emotional gratification of her fiancé; she was looking for security and something she was familiar with without realizing the commitment it requires, to have a person who “supports” her in case her exploration goes awry. This girl needs some serious therapy to dissect her own life goals and needs. Also, the “physical” attraction to the coworker is a huge red flag. This is infatuation, not love, which almost guarantees a short-lived relationship because of how surface-level it is.

[@TheUltraYusuf]

I really don't like Amanda saying the fiance's demands were too much. The only one that was too much was the phone stuff. I think it's more than reasonable for him to tell her to not talk to THE GUY SHE CHEATED ON HIM WITH ever again! Edit: I didn't remember the full context and yeah they're both messy.

[@martophrenia]

the second update straight up made me, what a tool of a human being

[@chrism45]

​@@TheUltraYusufhe asked for a curfew. That's way too far, just break up you'll never trust her.

[@TheUltraYusuf]

@@chrism45 True I somehow missed that.

[@lizzys.7806]

​@@TheUltraYusufhaving access to your partners devices and sharing passwords seems reasonable to me. A 'curfew' may seem restrictive but an expectation of not staying out all night seems pretty reasonable to me.

[@SLAYJENSEN]

What I don’t get about the wagyu steak couple is that.. if she thinks he’s wasting his money on expensive food, why would you go out of your way to ACTUALLY waste it?? It could’ve still been cooked and enjoyed?? My god

[@zahrahp535]

Once steaks are bought and money spent, GF didn't care if they go to the trash or BF's mouth... Amazing relationship 😅

[@ahmirdanger1701]

She's crazy. That's why

[@Northern_Star]

For real!!! Based on the story alone and not making assumptions that girl is crazy

[@MoonMoonTM]

She should pay him back for wasting his money

[@ericgonzales4979]

Major red flag for the girl idk why Amanda and Tommy were defending her 🧐

[@greystorms9632]

Wagyu steak story: if OP had taken a fork to a brand new $200 makeup palette his girlfriend just bought because he was mad about something, she would absolutely lose her shit. She can’t act like burning the steak is a sane move, or like his reaction wasn’t warranted.

[@MrFox-xr9cc]

Even if it was just a 10$ steak that he was excited about, you just don't destroy your partners things. Especially not over such a minor conflict. Because to be fair, it is HIS house and it was JUST a garage project. Like how much does that affect her? Is she spending her weekends in the garage or what?

[@DeadEye2956]

​@MrFox-xr9cc especially if he's the one paying and doing all the work for it. My wife already had a house before we got married and I would have never tried this. Especially after only a year of dating and 6 months living together.

[@MrFox-xr9cc]

@@DeadEye2956 exactly. If they had responsibilities like children or were married for a longer time, sure this becomes a discussion for everyone, because it is money that could be otherwise well spent. But after half a year of living together im not dictating my partner what to do or not to do with his money, as long as he is not going bankrupt or fueling an addiction.

[@AthenaPOfficial]

He gave her ONE BOUNDARY “don’t talk to this guy you cheated on me with” and she couldn’t even do that…. He is FULLY DELUSIONAL to think she’ll follow a LIST 😭 it’s honestly really sad

[@play-fool]

could be wrong but I think that's kind of the point. He's not saying you have to do these things He's saying you have to do these things if you want to be in this relationship with me anymore - and I think pretty much the only answer he could expect or that she should give would be no.

[@abieggleton7045]

@@play-foolyes that's how I saw it. Or at least I hope so. I hope he respects himself enough not to be with this awful woman

[@TechnoGin]

I'm amazed by how these people twisted the story to blame the guy and she hulk kept blaming the guy 😂 one boundary 😂 and he's a toxic fiancé and he's restricting her. They're simply biased. Reverse the roles none of them would say of maybe the guy's unhappy, if a guy cheats they're like oh he's a piece of shit but if a woman does that they're like oh maybe she's not happy

[@nathanwaters8586]

Athenq p what are doing in my comment section?😮🤣

[@justwalkingby3882]

​@@abieggleton7045unfortunately he does not 😞

[@ivanadelacruz2013]

Being 28, single my whole life, anxious over dating, feeling like my time is up, hearing tommy say “you’ve got time” referring to someone my age breaking up and not marrying their then partner reels so reassuring ❤

[@allovertheplacecreations2787]

I feel, as I’m in my mid-20’s with the same situation. It is really nice to be reminded that it’s okay for us to take it slow until we’re comfortable

[@beeherehomehomeschool]

You definitely have time. My sister just had a baby at 40...people don't realize that there are many women waiting for the right time ❤

[@tss3393]

Things work out for each person in their own time. We never know what exactly that looks like before we get there, but putting a timestamp on such individualized experiences like these is such bullshit. Don't compromise discovering what works for you so you can meet an arbitrary deadline. Like Tommy said, there's plenty of time.

[@thepeanutgallery9980]

The concept that thirty is too old is a concept from when 29 year old men would regularly marry 19 year old women, it’s an ancient concept and the real limit is actually closer to 50 now

[@RainbowDashJulia]

Same, 29 and considering divorce from a- not so good husband. Have be spending alot of time wondering if a 29 y.o. single mom who has a child with special needs, really has a chance out here...

[@Vipre-]

Story two: Some more context. That woman's mother used to be the gift giver who made a big deal about holidays, getting her son and daughter something every year. She died when OP was a child and her dad took over the tradition in her place. He sends her and her brother a Valentine's gift bag every year and has since their mother died.

[@linaghoname6888]

Wow. This makes the boyfriend's attitude all the more shitty. Glad she broke up with that douche.

[@Vipre-]

Yes, it's unfortunate this tends to get left out of readings because she only mentions it in a comment reply.

[@PenelopeAstony]

OMG can this man be MY dad please? What a sweetie. It's such a small thing to do, but the impact of love is clearly MASSIVE.

[@Vipre-]

@@PenelopeAstony It really imo also helps explain why the OP was so initially thrown off. Not only is it a childhood tradition but her dad does the same thing for her brother so it never occurred to her to even think about it because there's nothing to think about.

[@lpstigerlily8506]

This makes the boyfriend’s behavior all the more shitty

[@pastagolia8712]

Amanda is the queen of saying "this is sooo complicated" to situations that are so very much not complicated

[@twinclock1713]

Ikr but I think it most of them they like to pick one side in the argument and try there best to make it seem like the other side is the problem and I'm not saying that sexist but it's usually a guy they try to blame

[@islabee94]

​@@twinclock1713 oh no you're a hundred percent correct. They hold the men accountable for their disgusting behaviour, but the women? Not so much.

[@ashtaron23]

She say that it's too complicated because she needs to do some mental gymnastics to make the situation favor women even when it's obvious they're in the wrong.

[@samsherwood8332]

idk I think most situations, especially those involving hurt feelings within a relationship, are actually much more complicated than most people give them credit for

[@ashtaron23]

@@samsherwood8332 a lot of them are very cut and dry though. Both stories in the video are examples of cut and dry situations.

[@dani-annmcdouall7732]

The dad sending flowers and chocolates is also teaching his daughter how to expect to be treated by other men in the future 👍🏻👍🏻

[@PTwithKatie]

Came to say the same thing. And the boyfriend is threatened because he does not want to be the kind of man her father taught her she deserves. Glad they broke up

[@Slayy-kb8td]

Exactly!

[@yofukashidayo]

I moved out a couple years ago and regularly visit to buy my little sister flowers and chocolates. I swear, if her boyfriend thought it was creepy I'd be pissed. sounds controlling as fuck

[@ocakeys]

​@@PTwithKatiethis was my thought! Imo it felt like he thought it was less "creepy" and more he thought the dad made him look bad (or something of similar feelings).

[@sillylittlecourtjester]

it feels like he's upset that she has a relationship with her dad. Like he can't further isolate her

[@xenophiliuslovegood6914]

I love when Shayne acts like he's doing a huge name drop when he references a Reddit story from another episode.

[@cherylbritt7227]

I think they mean if you have to do this you need to just end the relationship. I don’t know why anyone would stay with a cheater PERIOD!!!

[@jonna3738]

I’ve never heard it phrased as ”empathy sometimes is the reason you ignore red flags” but that really struck me as quite eyenopening and somehow reassuring.

[@akenohononiku916]

Not sure if it's accurate, but that advice makes me think it represents the "Freudian Excuse is not an excuse" trope

[@-karma-2426]

That's such a good way of putting it

[@theboogeyman2590]

Its the “they’re not a bad person they just need help and I wanna be there for them if they need support but theyre hurting me in the process” type.

[@NicholasGW]

I really can't believe Amanda started her opinion on story three with "Of course what she did isn't right, but there are BIGGER issues here." She cheated on him. Repeatedly. That is, overwhelmingly, the biggest issue here. Are there other issues? Sure? I guess? But not a single one of them is bigger than the fact she repeatedly cheated on him. Like, playing devil's advocate for a woman who betrays her partner over and over and over and over with the mentality of "Well, she clearly isn't getting what SHE needs from the relationship" is baffling to me. If she isn't getting what she needs, she should leave. That's it. That's the *only* acceptable response to her situation, if she finds herself in one like that. Not to mention, there is absolutely zero evidence that she wasn't "getting what she wanted." By her own admission, she felt like her partner was "perfect" and she repeatedly begged him not to leave her. So giving her some imaginary out is just .. kind of a bad take, frankly.

[@AvaEFF]

That take made me feel so icky. It reminded me of growing up fundamentalist and the excuses that would be made for men who cheated on their wives. “Well, what was SHE doing wrong? She must not have been making him feel fulfilled”.

[@gamelove0169]

Yeah Angela has pretty bad takes. Especially when it comes to women in these stories. She always has to defend the woman

[@Knels94]

@@gamelove0169came to the comments to make sure I’m not the only one that feels this way. I get the men are wrong in a lot of these stories but she will perform crazy mental gymnastics to go to bat for women in the wrong.

[@juniperrb]

Amanda ​@@gamelove0169

[@Clairebee]

Thank you! And she just wouldn't let up on defending this serial cheater. Kind of a legit red flag. 😅

[@ninjety4]

"We been together 6 years now and during the third year of our relationship I cheated on him with a close family friend. I had started taking him for granted and it became easy to cheat because I didn’t value the relationship. " She cheated because she could, not because she's unfulfilled. "I didn't value the relationship" does NOT indicate that HE did anything wrong, and in fact purely points out that she saw a chance and took it. It's lame that they completely discounted the VERY FIRST paragraph.

[@tarathoughts13]

Yeah. It’s one thing to feel unvalued in a relationship and your partner not listening to you or showing you that they care (even still I feel like good communication can solve that but) it’s another to just not care about someone.

[@jaredfortin6810]

Litterally, this is one of the first times I've been side eyeing Amanda her answers during the beginning were just so odd

[@nat22968]

She didn't value the relationship and wasn't fulfilled by the relationship is the same thing. And I'm pretty sure they said specifically that it's not his fault for that. Relax 🌴

[@elfhunter6]

THANK YOU. I agree, Amanda was strangely defensive.

[@far7964]

ur so right the take on that story was actually wildd

[@reeby97]

Shayne doing the ad read for Hellofresh and just casually mentioning cooking ”with my wife” warms my Shourtney heart ❤

[@LatishaMmmmmkkkkkzzzzz]

I know! I squealed so loud😊

[@jessicagravelle3766]

I also heard him saying GF at some point but I could've just not paid attention. I'm only in the comments to see if they are married

[@inkterp5322]

@@jessicagravelle3766 they are!

[@WhatIsTheHeat]

@@jessicagravelle3766GF was a quote from a reddit story, something like “my gf”

[@DannasaurusRex]

Oufff, absolutely warms your heart. 😍

[@powderedsugar9603]

For the third story, there is no trust left. She's disgusting!!! He's letting himself get walked all over. He probably can't bare to let her go so he's giving her those impossible terms to prompt her to leave. I would say the only solution is breaking up.

[@claudioclini5380]

Kinda crazy how Amanda kept defending the woman when she knows Shayne went through being cheated on. Like we 100% love women but cmon lets not be completely biased when she's literally a serial cheater

[@djb1317]

​@@claudioclini5380 Smosh always have a default setting where theyre far more lenient to the women in the reddit stories, their threshold for saying the woman is clearly an awful person is far higher than for men With the men in the stories itnis the opposite in that even with NTAH guys they wull try to find pieces of the story where the guy might not be on the up and up

[@joevictor53]

​@@djb1317Shayne often says the man is usually the arsehole so I feel like they find it easier to shift blame on to the guy in a lot of stories because they're so used to the guy being the arsehole. The commenters in AITA are no different. People often post stories with no identifying pronouns or names and you're guaranteed to have comments referring to the arsehole as he/him.

[@jp-fk5ke]

I think the boyfriend has checked out of the relationship and its more of a if you want this to continue these things have to happen.

[@senyoko]

​@@claudioclini5380 thats what i was thinking!!!

[@boomgirlbucko]

To explain it simply, She cheated physically, And then she cheated emotionally.

[@P0rk_Sinigang]

The one-two punch.

[@eyeofthebeholder_]

I don't think I can express the amount of hurt the woman on the third story did to her fiancé. She single handedly decimated his ability to trust anyone. Three chances were given and all three times she screwed him over. It's supervillain origin story level betrayal.

[@jamer2010]

That's something the guy will have to figure out for himself. A narcissist isn't going to care one way or another and if you hurt other people because you were hurt, that's a bigger red flag than the narcissism. Because you know how it affects other people and are intentionally hurting someone else.

[@jenellenelson4447]

When people do this, they never think about what they're doing to their partner or their future. They care about themselves and it ends there for them, zero empathy in a person is scary to me.

[@gpeddino]

Amanda is so empathetic that sometimes she ends up being way too lenient towards people who are very much in the wrong. Shayne’s stance is more severe and I usually agree with him.

[@koyfiish27]

her stance on the cheater girlfriend was strange :/

[@JagannathGaming]

Yeah as someone who was cheated on, Amanda gave me the big ick.

[@s4ify]

@@koyfiish27 right

[@hthumbs4072]

Yeah she had some real shit takes here with a couple things. I love Amanda but with some relationship stuff it just seems like she gets upset on behalf of the person who was super shitty to their partner. I don't know where that comes from or why, but it's like sometimes being overly empathetic makes her lack empathy for the wronged party.

[@gabriellacliff2550]

yeah i feel like she always looks for the “why” when someone does something bad in these posts and it ends up looking like she’s sticking up for them. imo i don’t think it’s coming from a bad place she just gives people the benefit of the doubt a lot haha

[@magsm4919]

Sometimes I feel like Amanda’s empathy makes her completely miss what the actual problem is, like she’s getting caught by every red flag in this episode

[@Milk-ck1wv]

Op cheated and destroyed her partners trust. It doesn't matter if it wasn't romantic because she still played around behind his back. If she can't reach those expectations then they need to officially break up and not continue the relationship. She put him in that position and now they're both showing toxic behaviors.

[@jennatandy6272]

Totally agree, it’s so hard to trust someone again after they broke it multiple times and it seems like they both need to move on for the sake of their own mental health.

[@maryooowoahh]

this is THE take !! the guy was toxic in his boundaries, but ONLY AFTER she absolutely destroyed his trust twice. yes, those boundaries are unacceptable to request and expect your partner to follow, and he should have just broken up with her. but that doesn't mean that she is justified in her disrespect towards him throughout the entire relationship

[@hernameispekka_Rebecca]

Very well summarized

[@KebGrinder]

​@@maryooowoahhthe boundaries weren't toxic when the girl is begging to come back into your life

[@tamalahale6160]

Agreed. It shows she can careless about the relationship but value the friendship more.

[@jaylynn8630]

Possibly an unpopular opinion on story 1: I think cancelling the birthday dinner at the high end French restaurant was a completely reasonable response. There's no sense in wasting money to buy high quality food that she's not even capable of appreciating (what she did to the steak proves that she can't - no one with an appreciation for good food could ever bear to destroy legit wagyu steak (at worst, you might cook it and eat it all yourself)).

[@Djinnerator]

Exactly. The gf wastes $200 worth of food (seemingly intentionally) and Amanda is like "but her birthday!!!" Canceling those plans were very reasonable, because why waste more money? Her takes are insane...

[@socketyellow3]

@@Djinneratorprobaly was planning on breaking up with her

[@shosho089]

I also saw it as perfectly reasonable for not rewarding bad behavior. So she's going to act like a spoiled brat and still expect a treat? HELL no. She wants to act like a child, treat her like one.

[@omni-nerdno7191]

How's he gonna ban her from going to her birthday celebration with her parents? Without stirring up a huge confrontation at the restaurant​@@akenohononiku916

[@thedrifter5531]

oh no its a popular opinion the smosh crew are just fucking weird with their takes

[@kimf1993]

Look, I LOVE the campy villain energy of serving someone’s prized steak burnt like charcoal and responding “who me?” But for a real relationship?? Not mature. Not cool. Not ok.

[@jeb4513]

Yeah that's a sitcom joke, you laugh at the absurdity of the action and dysfunction of the relationship. The whole plot of most sitcoms with a relationship at the centre is the couple doing anything but talk for ~15 minutes and then finally resolving things by talking them over at the end of the episode. In real relationships you should skip the part where you're not talking to each other.

[@jebbylyn]

THIS! in a movie or show, kinda funny... In real life?? YIKES 😬

[@hernameispekka_Rebecca]

This! if someone in Mad Men did that? Gold! Spectacular! Real life... not a healthy way to handle that

[@h0neychai]

so well-said girlie. same

[@crunchevo8974]

Right. Some Panto shit lmao. Not for real life 😂

[@TheQuashingoftheTub]

I love how Amanda went from defending the cheater to story 3 to immediately trashing all over that shit when it was revealed she cheated _a __-second-__ third time._

[@patriciahughes7516]

Yeah, it did make me laugh a little, to be honest. Amanda usually goes to bat for the women (not saying that's wrong, but she usually does have a longer leash, is a little more empathetic, from the female perspective) but by the end of this story even she was like "Just leave everyone alone! You obviously don't want to be married!" like, she just couldn't defend her anymore. 🤣

[@sophia18883]

I feel so bad for that woman’s bf/fiancé. She strung that man along and wasted YEARS of his time to just leave him months before their wedding?! At some point you have to be real with yourself and what you feel and recognize that just because you love someone doesn’t mean you should be together and that that’s not enough. It sounds like she loved him loving her… if stepping away so many times was that easy. There’s no way she was truly both feet in, head over heels in love. Be real…

[@Wra8h]

In this case it's accurate ​@@UnBesoDeCristal

[@aarons.2323]

Don't worry. She will leave the next guy (who was still married, but can't leave his wife right now because of finances. Sure, buddy) soon enough anyway.

[@lovelynight1]

Yeah there's no way this new guy is going to uproot his entire life after knowing her for only 3 months, he already even told her he's not divorcing his wife for her. She's definitely only in love with the idea of being in love and will always chase those butterflies until she sees a therapist to figure out why she feels the need to before she hurts another guy.

[@MadaraUchiha-.._]

@@aarons.2323 He will also leave her, too (if he even does leave his wife lol). They are both cheaters. They will never be happy with each other if they were to date.

[@solvexis]

Well wagyu is super expensive so whether she likes it or not she has no right to intentionally burn them if she did not pay for them.

[@diamelisynfante9801]

Right whether she values it or not doesn’t change the fact the boyfriend was excited to have it and payed a lot for it just for her to waste it

[@hthumbs4072]

Right?? Why was Amanda trying make that a bad thing on his end???

[@fungi5350]

@@hthumbs4072 yeah I normally agree with their takes but the gf KNEW how important the steaks were to him. I wouldn’t want to spend money on someone that intentionally burned my steaks a few days before…

[@aaronmontgomery2055]

@@fungi5350 well they are very much pro female so that is their bias. If it’s two women then their opinion changes.

[@mage1439]

@@fungi5350 As soon as I heard Amanda say "this is a tough one" I checked out for a bit. Absolutely not. There's nothing tough about it. She's awful, he should dump her, next.

[@kierramurphy9135]

The stalking journal honestly made me so close to being physically sick. That is so awfully gross

[@JordiePaige1031]

100% agree. I was floored and then my stomach started turning and I wanted to hit something

[@z_stuartoliver]

its truly the most disgusting, vile and sickest story ive ever heard em read on this show. this was a murderer's jounal notes before he ever came to be a murderer. that IS THE CLOSEST THEY GOT TO TRUE EPITOME OF (DARK) REDDIT. that was appalling

[@kingofnerds7693]

its so rare that something will provoke like, a physical reaction but that did it. jesus fucking christ

[@reggaemarley4617]

I have to choose to believe that it was a work of fiction and ragebait because the idea that there are actually people out there like that is fucking horrifying.

[@hansdizon5166]

It was so hard to listen to. I had to pause it every minute or 2 to give me a break from it. So gross, hope she's living safely and has regained some sort of peace of mind

[@teenytective]

I can't get over their response to the wagyu steak couple. There's no justification for burning it. Just because she doesn't care and isn't excited about it, HE was, and going out of your way to destroy something your partner is excited about will never be the correct or appropriate justification. She was entirely out of line and I don't care how bad he was during the argument, that's inappropriate. She should've just left if she couldn't stand him that badly.

[@hannahleigh6152]

They've covered once since releasing this episode, and they were more empathetic in that one. Amanda does tend to judge the dudes more harshly, and Shane usually matches the guests' energy. I can't comment much on Tommy's reaction though.

[@Sigita989]

​@@hannahleigh6152why you watch if you don't care about different opinions ?

[@hannahleigh6152]

@@Sigita989 What?

[@deja3963]

My first bite of wagyu changed my life and it was the walmart brand. If someone intentionally burned $200 worth of wagyu I would certainly not waste money on a fancy dinner for them. This also just shows she doesn’t appreciate that kind of food anyway.

[@hevolocs]

Exactly

[@hi_ranz]

REALLL🗣

[@spoopyblogs]

Exactly 🙌🙌

[@Booeyy]

well... yea. the guy literally said she had never been a big steak enjoyer to begin with 💀

[@fa1ruz]

But you would also just broke off that 1 year relationship won’t you? But OP didn’t, he went straight to reddit to back him up

[@sijdnsd6460]

To Shayne’s point at 33:40, I 1000% agree. For me, I could never be with someone who cheated on me. Once that happens, the relationship is over. There are no second chances or redos, that is it.

[@HouseMDaddict]

Same! Like if a person can get in that headspace and follow through ONCE they have the ability to do it again. Trust is broken and I wouldn't waste my time on someone who clearly didn't value me or our relationship enough to remain faithful.

[@jeb4513]

I agree too, clearly they're not the person I thought they were if they cheated on me. No one cheats by accident. It's a choice that you make. They made a choice that they knew would hurt him immensely for the sake of their own pleasure. That's not the kind of person anyone should want to be with.

[@JUNJYR]

Same here. I would never be able to trust them again, and if there is no trust the relationship is worthless. Why bother being with someone who constantly makes me worry?

[@norae1138]

The journal entries that got skipped over here are so unhinged I regret reading them 😭 that would’ve been terrifying for that poor woman to go through

[@frankinsaneandmyrrh1202]

could you give a tldr for those of us afraid to deep dive but still curious?

[@_.hybrids._1680]

@@frankinsaneandmyrrh1202I don’t think a tldr will ever come close to capture the insanity of the entries 😫

[@frankinsaneandmyrrh1202]

@@_.hybrids._1680 oh geez, is it that bad? should I stay far away? 😖

[@ochahap]

⁠​⁠@@frankinsaneandmyrrh1202incredibly delusional guy is convinced he and his coworker are destined to be together and gets arrested

[@Jack_Ss]

Those can’t actually be real. Like right from the get go it seems like a joke. It’s way too extreme. No one is actually like that. Hitting every single creepy incel talking point at once? No way. Like the Mad Men comment. It would’ve been believable if he’d just left it at that”I’ll introduce you to great shows like Mad Men”. But adding the shit about what a model wife should be? Bull. Parts are probably real and there may have been a desk neighbor that kept a journal but the entries were 100 percent added to or altered to make them worse

[@FiniteDorian]

I appreciate Shayne mentioning Tamlin. Book Nerds are here. We are thankful.

[@theboogeyman2590]

What book is this?

[@theshortone1959]

@@theboogeyman2590 If it's what I think it was then A Court of Thornes and Roses by Sarah J. Maas. It's a fantasy romance series.

[@Idk-wo1er]

She crawled back to him begging for forgiveness then betray his trust by befriending your affair partner. Why even come up with rules. Break up

[@jiminpov]

no fr. this girl doesn’t love or respect herself enough to not cheat. so weird 😭😭

[@Rachy91]

I agree. No need of rules just remove the problem all together and move on.

[@cleversmosh]

I completely agree, it just seems like he doesn't value himself fully and only cares about trying to make her happy despite her not doing the same for him, so he tries to set boundaries while staying in the relationship and she still tries to paint him as the bad guy, she's a bad person and he is way to lenient probably because he's self conscious and doesn't fully care about how he feels and only cares about pleasing other people

[@justascomplicated8182]

@@cleversmosh I mean calling those rules "boundaries" is a crazy misuse of that word

[@Kuchhh]

Some people are truly desperate and see no other option… really, really sad…

[@Skooskah]

Shayne reading a story from a site that often has updates: Alright, update Amanda: gasps Tommy: gasps Me: gasps

[@kristipearce4819]

Me: gasps

[@StranglerSix]

Me: gasps

[@deworde]

Had me in the first half, not gonna lie.

[@thekawaiiseeall]

I get so excited 😂 even on a rewatch of the episode

[@aahwUNL11]

1:04:58

[@and-oh]

a person who claims to love you going out of their way to ruin something they know you love/are excited for just because they're angry at you is such an appropriate way to start a red flags episode

[@crunchevo8974]

Yeah. I think there is definitely missing context in the first story though. What was he doing in the garage that made her upset and justify that he's bad with money in her mind? Not to get it twisted. Her destroying 200 bucks worth of his property which he was planning to prepare and share with her says she cared more about making him upset and "getting even" in her mind than both seeing him happy and probably eating the best steak of her life at the same time. He definitely paonts himself to be reasonable though if you're a couple and it is your house... Either rent it out and mortgage a property together or figure out some way to both have equal say in what goes on in the house and you should also have your finances figured out. Two fundamental things in a healthy relationship which this one lacks severley. Maybe I'm just too frugal but if my partner spent 200 bucks on some damn steaks I'd be mad as hell. Not mad enough to destroy them but enough to have a serious conversation and establish clear expectations going forward for sure. Tbh they both seem like flaming red flags with turds on them so it's kinda fitting that they're together ngl.

[@fancyzozo1218]

​@crunchevo8974 I believe he said he was constructing or changing his garage, and his girlfriend thought that he was wasting too much money on the garage. He owns the entire house, though, and she only moved in 6 months ago, so for her to lash out on him and then proceed to ruin a $200 steak is in no way sensible in my opinion. I don't understand how people can argue that the girlfriend isn't an asshole. She didn't mind having an entire birthday dinner spent on her so it seems as though she's only pissed when the money isn't spent on her.

[@CB____]

@@fancyzozo1218 okay but if someone lives in your house they should be able to have an opinion on what happens in said house

[@lexximacon]

@@CB____not after 6 months especially if they're not putting money in. Thats called entitlement.

[@CB____]

@@lexximacon if 6 months is long enough for you to move a SO into your home then it’s long enough for them to have an opinion on the home that you share. Entitlement is thinking that you should get all of the benefits of having your partner live with you with none of the compromising that sharing a space requires.

[@0nfe]

Story 2. This is why valentines day here in Finland is called friends day. It's a day where you member your loved ones, people that are dear to you. So it can include your partner, your friends and your family members.

[@tylerlambert8953]

Huge agree with shayne on story 1. Marriage genuinely changes nothing about a relationship, but moving in together changes your entire dynamic.

[@thepeanutgallery9980]

ESPECIALLY when it’s in a house that straight up belonged to only one partner until recently. It’s toxic to tell your partner “it’s my house so these are my decisions” but devil’s advocate, it’s not easy to just give up ownership and freedom in the course of a couple of months for someone else.

[@MrFox-xr9cc]

@@thepeanutgallery9980 Yeah, even if it is your house/flat/whatever alone, you should turn it into a home for you both. Then again: From the things and the way he told them it doesn't seem like money is a big issue (Casually Buying Wagyu, Owning a House, Planning to go fancy dining with family, being upset that the wagyu is burnt because he was excited - not because it was expensive...) AND it was just a garage project... like, how much time does she spend in the garage for it to actually affect her? I get it if he wanted to completely rearrange living room, bedroom and kitchen, but the garage?

[@mage1439]

The third one drove me out of my mind. "I'm not capable of doing anything wrong, things just happen to me."

[@hernameispekka_Rebecca]

Truly! Like oh poor you, did you stumble?!

[@derrickcarbona9245]

Ya that's some crazy shit to say.

[@o.revi.]

Yeah, tell that to the rotten 🍊 😂😂 That fishy thing is absolutely inconsiderate and small

[@babystone42]

a few points on story 3... 1. Shayne is absolutely correct. The previous relationship has to end to even consider a new one, and they should've been in couples counseling before even considering marriage or a new relationship to begin with. 2. 23:18 - 23:31 I hope this is just a misread of the situation. There is never a good excuse to cheat. There are never wider circumstances that make it okay to cheat over just leaving. If you aren't satisfied with *part* of your relationship, ask if you can open up the relationship. If not, then you need to just leave. It's not good for either person to continue a relationship where you're only satisfied by hurting your partner. 3. The demands are a lot. I understand why he has trust issues, but I don't think this is a relationship worth saving. She deliberately went behind his back to rekindle a friendship she knew would make him uncomfortable. That's all I really needed to know. He was uncomfortable for a valid reason, and she did it anyways. It reads as selfish and inconsiderate of her partner's feelings. 4. the updates... oh the updates... that poor, poor man.

[@dove2826]

On your 2nd point, I think even just asking to open up the relationship is a bad idea. If you're unsatisfied, you need to fix that before inviting another person into your mess. A cheater also cheats in polygamous relationships, because cheaters have something fundamentally wrong with them

[@Thunderous333]

​@@dove2826I don't think all cheaters have something fundamentally wrong with them. Some can't escape an abusive situation and cheat to cope. That's out of the realm of this, so in this situation, this specific girl definitely has some kind of complex or mental issue related to trust, love, and commitment. As someone who has known a lot of cheaters, one being my own father, I understand that sometimes it is a sign of abuse or trauma. That needs fixing, not condemning.

[@rachelstanger6079]

@@Thunderous333 Being abused is not an excuse to hurt another person. Nobody who is being abused by their partner would cheat on them. That would be incredibly dangerous. That's just not how it works. It's abusers that cheat, not the other way around. I say this as the only person in a highly dysfunctional generational family who has actually taken a step back to observe.

[@Thunderous333]

@@rachelstanger6079 Didn't say it was an excuse.

[@chickensandwich8808]

​@@dove2826 i agree that trying to open a relationship in order to save it is trying to side step the real issues. If a partner doesn't respect you in a closed relationship, giving them more opportunity to disrespect you in an open one is just not the solution.

[@claudeniz]

Can someone pleaseeee tell Amanda that’s it’s OKAY to admit that a woman is in the wrong in these stories 😭😭 like Tommy did it too but how are you defending the girl in the first story???? Or the cheater??? Holy shit

[@alyssa-9171]

I KNOW WHY IS SHE DEFENDING HER SO MUCH ITS EMBARRASSING

[@LaunchPadMcQuack4Hire]

I'm so glad to see a lot of other people are bothered by her awful takes. I get that we're not all going to agree on everything all the time, but man, there's a LOT of crazy shit coming out of her mouth on these shows.

[@glxxmbxby]

omg literally 😭

[@camannwordsmith]

I got so frustrated that I had to stop watching. Gods, the mental gymnastics required to defend that...

[@loganpraz2566]

Yeah she’s a typical “blame the patriarchy for everything” person

[@aliendonnie]

"When you look at someone through rose-colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."

[@dro6sy]

awesome reference

[@yarayugi7506]

Hell yea for BoJack reference!!!

[@BeowulfOceanFalcon]

That's actually a great quote, wow!

[@IrinaGreenman]

My favorite Bojack quote, hands down!

[@jessicakoch2331]

Omg I have never heard that quote and it is so good

[@laleona1221]

That guy who was jealous of the dad sending flowers and chocolate - he’s trying to put a wedge between her and her dad. The first step in isolating her. Which is a common first step of (say it with me) an abuser. So glad she got outta there!!

[@nathanhaimson]

That's a great point

[@jamesbowen2088]

That makes way more sense than him actually thinking there's something romantic involved in those gifts

[@LinWarai]

i didn’t even think of that, that’s such a good take!

[@claytoncucuzza588]

To say "to her it's not that big of a deal" when talking about the steaks is a little wild to me. Just because you don't understand the value someone else puts on something doesn't mean it now has no value

[@vocasoti]

And if they weren't that big of a deal to her why would she even bother with them?

[@cleversmosh]

​​@@vocasoti the steaks don't really matter to her but clearly money does and they cost alot of money, she got upset at him for wasting money and then wasted food and therefore the money spent on it. She is a hypocrite and doesn't even realise it

[@ZariLutus]

@@cleversmosh it feels like it was more about control than actually about the money. Especially with her fully expecting him to pay for a super expensive dinner for her and her parents

[@slsthewriter1299]

It does highlight *why* she did burn those, on top of wanting to hurt him. The woman obviously didn't understand the difference between what is common at a store and those steaks in particular. Which kinda just adds to the toxicity because it's like, okay, if *you* don't understand, that doesn't mean it's any less important.

[@Wandervenn]

​@@ZariLutusThis. Her issues with control come up multiple times in the story. The only reason he mentions it being his house is because she's trying to assert her opinion over his on how he spends his money on it. If it wasnt her house to begin with, then she hss no reason to have more say than he does, she's just trying to control how he spends his money. Then we have how she responds to arguments. After their first argument, he calms down within a few hours and messages her reassurance that they'll discuss it again. Her response is to burn his steaks, again forcing the issue. When the second argument happens and she's the one facing consequences, se again controls the situation by entirely withdrawing and refusing to communicate.

[@thejayinator585]

I’m so sorry, those rules aren’t a red flag. She cheated, she can’t be trusted. She rekindled their relationship in secret, she definitely cannot be trusted. So yes if she wants him back, she needs to do that. If she doesn’t want to, she leaves. And she should because he deserves better.

[@slimechao]

Those rules ARE a red flag, but. There's a difference between "this is a red flag against the relationship being able to continue in a healthy way" and "this is a red flag that you specifically are toxic and abusive". The cast was clearly leaning toward the former based on when and how they decided to throw the flag. Fundamentally setting rules like a curfew, check ins and access to all devices and accounts means that whether or not setting them makes you the "problem," without serious counseling for both of them and actual healthy boundaries, this relationship is doomed and can't ever truly be repaired.

[@FukaiKokoro]

It definitely is. The second you feel it's necessary to control your partner it's time to end it or get professional help. not make up nonsense controlling rules

[@simmy0019]

the journal story is truly horrifying, I've never felt so scared for a person in my life

[@Player_O1ne]

Genuinely horror movie material, and the fact that it's real is terrifying.

[@yarayugi7506]

I was begging the entire time for it to be some fantastical work of fiction. I’m not doubting its validity, but I can’t process something that horrendous being real

[@sebastianmyers4933]

I think the worst part of the third story is that the cheater is the one that broke it off with the fiance. Even in her post about breaking up with him she just keeps saying that it's hard for her to do it and that she wishes she loved him. It's desperate and it's sad tk see that the fiance didn't get to really stand up for himself and kinda grow a backbone.

[@pamelah1220]

He's better off without her.

[@wordzmyth]

Yeah but it's like she broke them up 3 times and he didn't get to say no to her red flags

[@Bell-eh2zl]

The leniency on the woman who cheated thrice vs the harsh judgement on the guy who had his personal belongings destroyed is insane

[@giannalee8586]

Yeah.. they were all very wrong for that

[@JulianneNA]

People pleasing judgments to dodge internet offense 🙄 scared of keyboard warrior comments. they’re NOT the only KZbin reddit readers to be doing this over time.

[@blossomrouter4797]

The guy who had his belongings destroyed definitely wasn't a good guy but saying "my house" when it both of their home is not on the same level as destroying property.

[@thefighternitro]

​@@blossomrouter4797 well he wanted to do something in his garage with probably his own money and she didnt want him to do that, and then because she didnt get her way although he texted her saying he wants to talk about it(maybe compromise although he has no obligation to do so) she burns his steaks whith no reason to do so whatsoever, they were his steaks that he wanted to prepare for them, he enjoys cooking and has never had them and was really really looking forward to it, if you dont get that you will never have a good relationship, the biggest nono to do is stomp on something ur partner enjoys or looks forward to

[@blossomrouter4797]

@@thefighternitro it was his house but their home, see they share the house no matter who owns it she lives there, and as I said they are both bad, you got to ->communicate

[@kateajurors8640]

The background cackling from the set staff is the best😂😂😂

[@Bread-ty2ue]

the stalker story reminded me of the You netflix series. The stalker's perspective, based on his journal, is literally how Joe Goldberg talks, thinks and behaves lol

[@mrtheblr]

Yeah I’m pretty sure it’s a fanfic from someone who has read or seen “You,” I don’t believe it’s real. Not that it can’t or doesn’t happen, but it just seems too similar…

[@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks]

wow that sitcom didn’t go where I expected.

[@ciaraandjojo]

When Shane talks about empathetic people putting up with shit I was reminded of something amazing someone told me recently. “You can understand the behaviour without excusing it” This is now how I try to live my life!

[@hexoson]

yep, well said. I wrote about that in one of my comments pretty much. just because they're also going through something tough doesn't excuse your behavior. it's like that one reddit stories episode where the woman with cancer tells her husband she's going to sleep with her coworker whether he likes it or not, then gets angry at him when he says no because she thinks she deserves to have the hall pass after what she's gone through. like, just because you are dealing with cancer doesn't give you any right to blatantly cheat on your 20+ year husband with some dude you just met.

[@hernameispekka_Rebecca]

Very true. And in a smaller way, it goes the other way as well... Understanding and explaining something doesn't mean you're excusing it. Sometimes the comments on these videos think that every time they explore the other side, that is excusing it and invalidating the other side. While it can be simply about understanding. (Less important ofc than what you're saying, but kind of the other side of the coin)

[@dysfunctionalaf]

I have a similar thing when people try to excuse themselves or other people being assholes based on the fact they’re mentally ill I always say “mental illness is an explanation not an excuse”

[@andraes9684]

The “creepy gift” thing reminds me of people who calls out David Beckham for hugging and kissing his daughter. Some people can no longer live without s3xualizing affection.

[@shewolfinubaka]

“I promise I will never hurt him again and will always be upfront and honest with him now” “I cheated again but it wasn’t my fault because NOW I’m in LOOVVVEEEE” Lol I bet they feel so stupid for defending her so hard in the first part of the story

[@silentvalley1395]

okay so my PERSONAL OPINION on the wagyu steaks thing is, its the same principle of the guys who throw away a womans dear mug collection, or the guys who order a salad for their date because 'you need to lose weight'. he was looking forward to those steaks for who knows how long, he presumably had the disposable money for it otherwise he wouldn't have bought them, (why would you buy 200$ wagyu if you can't afford rent, right?), what else could she potentially be throwing away or destroying for him. it's not necessarily *evil* but it has the potential to be a problem in the future. anyways, i'm probably looking too much into it

[@silentvalley1395]

also i think they just shouldn't be together if they have such differing opinions on food, thats not gonna work out. the only reason they should be together is for the entertainment of others because i bet watching their relationship is like watching a car crash of a clown car and a prius

[@hevolocs]

Facts

[@slsthewriter1299]

It's evil in the blind malicious intent. She did it because that was his thing, and she was mad at him. And she did it to the point where not only did she waste $200 to "prove her point", she also wasted *meat.* As in. She wasted why an animal was killed in the first place. She is a certain type of evil to be that level of petty over a point you're not even consistent about yourself. Like the logic is wonky, because it's really not about the excuse she gave.

[@hexoson]

No, I agree. To me, it wouldn't have mattered if he spent $200 on clothes or spent a $200 gift card he was given, that money meant a lot to him if he felt it was worth spending it on something he would enjoy. The fact she so callously wastes those steaks shows how much she doesn't care about him and wants him to suffer by having to watch her burn the steaks. She wasted his money and took away something he would have enjoyed, knowing that it would make him upset. That, for me, is where I'd just end it altogether.

[@djb1317]

It is a completely evil act, full malicious intent knowing it would cause him hurt

[@TabbyWithMittens]

24:08 Omfg don’t you dare bring up the “they aren’t happy so they cheated”, it puts the blame on the person who got cheated on. If you aren’t happy in a relationship then be an adult and break up or talk about it. Sometimes you are going to be unhappy in a relationship, it happens- that’s why you talk or that’s a sign you need to go. Dont make it messy and hurt someone just because you are to insecure to be by yourself.

[@bokuwatobi_]

It’s is straight up apologia for abuse

[@RubyGeeScuderia]

Agreed, personally. I think they were stretching their minds too much tryna understand the bad guys pov so not to be bias against them

[@TabbyWithMittens]

@@RubyGeeScuderia I was already a little tick by their takes so hearing that kind of pushed me over lol. I don’t think they mean harm, but yeah there’s such thing as trying to stretch your mind too far (like you said).

[@8bitdiedie]

Amanda is definitely that friend who gives their friends false alibis so they can cheat behind their boyfriend’s back.

[@couriertx]

TBF, Shayne DID say he brought the people with the most red flags… And he wasn’t wrong lol.

[@TakeThisification]

“Everything’s bad; be scared all the time.” God I appreciate Tommy so much

[@BrittniKent]

Omg the (#2) Valentine's Story is so cute! The dad is basically saying "hey flowers and chocolate are basic. SHOW my daughter you LOVE LOVE her"

[@aniolczak1511]

The energy this trio radiates is so undeniably powerful. Mad Team Rocket vibes Edit: LMAO THEY KEEP DOING THE VOICES

[@moldomre4838]

But which is Meowth, Shayne or Tommy?

[@Idk_My_Name]

I dont know almost anything about pokemon at all but i feel like shanye is the cat

[@Something2DadAbout]

Shayne is definitely Meowth

[@stuckinlastmillenia]

But Damien is most James coded

[@violet.trying]

Amanda is SO jessie tho

[@pamelah1220]

Every time Shayne talks about being cheated on I'm blown away. Imagine having Shayne for a boyfriend and being like "I want more."

[@JoTheCreativeOne]

seriously im so glad he has courtney and courtney has him

[@pamelah1220]

@@JoTheCreativeOne I became a Shartney shipper overnight

[@kaedenplayz884]

@@pamelah1220 Shartney 🤣

[@moonl0verr]

I know its been a while now since the announcement but hearing Shayne call Court his "wife" is so sweet and adorable. It still makes me smile to think that after all these years, Smosh has bought together these two in an awesome partnership 💛

[@littlejimmy2195]

Man Shayne wasn’t lying when he said he grabbed the biggest red flags he knows, Amanda was blood red this episode

[@ashlyn8562]

my dad passed away in 2021 due to alcoholism. my dad ALWAYS got me something for valentine’s days. chocolates, plushie, or flowers. even a handwritten note. it’s precious and cute and shows daughters how they SHOULD be treated. it’s cute

[@Inklett13]

“I didnt cheat this time but im talking to the person i cheated on my partner with before, but idk why he doesnt trust me”

[@hernameispekka_Rebecca]

No self awareness at all, that one!

[@thylionheart]

Story 1: it doesn’t matter that she doesn’t care about it being Wagyu beef, or that it was just meat, what matters is that she intentionally destroyed something he spent a lot of money on before he could enjoy it. It’s the same thing as pouring out someone’s expensive bottle of perfume or spending someone’s $200 gift card or spa certificate. She intentionally destroyed something that he spent a lot of money on to spite and hurt him. I don’t blame him for not wanting to attend the fancy dinner now. This relationship sounds doomed and they should just break up.

[@ninja5879]

Exactly. It's the lack of respect that's the problem. Not the steak itself. If you have to like something in order to respect another's interests, especially a partners, you never developed mentally past 13.

[@gungle2595]

Hell, it's not even about the price of it, destroying something of any monetary value that your partner cares about is not good

[@derrickcarbona9245]

Don't fuck with the beef!!!!

[@thylionheart]

@@gungle2595you’re correct, I agree with you; I just used items of equivalent value so that I wouldn’t get replies telling me I was comparing diamonds and lug nuts. Tbh, for me, it’s even more devastating when something handmade or sentimental is destroyed.

[@twigwigsoso]

to me tho, it kinda felt like- it's not about the steaks, it seems with his original story this was her breaking point, she doesn't have any control in their home, money, etc and this gave her that, they are very unhealthy relationship clearly but idk- felt like it was her snapping, like especially because the og story has no details of her acting like this in the past, his way of telling the story, etc idk maybe ivm projecting my own abuse history onto this but, i know i have had moments where ive snapped and said or done something crazy,

[@morgancadle4605]

That stalker story was the creepiest thing I've heard in a while. I hope she is all good now, and let's pray he is still locked away or has left her alone

[@JDTHECAMERAGUY]

The girl in the third story is on demon mode, straight up super villain arch

[@l.1586]

I think it's so weird how so many people are brushing over the OP in the first post saying he was willing to discuss the garage issue. Yes, it is sh*tty that he's holding that fact that they're living in his house over her. However, it's not like he was just dismissing that. He very plainly says he communicated with her that he'd like to talk about it. Just when he has a more even head. Which I personally don't see the issue with. The girlfriend jumped straight to being vengeful with steaks she knew he was excited about. That's an enormous red flag to me. That her first instinct was revenge after he said he'd like to still discuss the issue. I don't even see him cancelling the dinner as vengeful tbh. You don't get to do something very hurtful to your partner and still expect them to gift you something after you haven't even done the bare minimum of apologising 🤷🏾‍♀️ I guess I'm a red flag too.

[@felixhenson9926]

Honestly i see both the things they did as things they did with the intention of it hurting their partner and once a relationship's hit that point it's just over

[@MrFox-xr9cc]

@@felixhenson9926 I don't think so. I'm a very emotional person and need things to be sorted out and in harmony. If my partner disrespected me, destroyed something - both emotionally valuable and money wise - would completely throw me off. At this point i couldn't just sit down at diner with her parents... Also: She didn't want him to waste money on expensive food, made that point very clear and showed, that she has no respect for fancy food whatsoever. So since she doesn't respect fancy food AND doesn't want him to waste money, cancelling the reservation at the fancy restaurant is the only thing in line with her own logic...

[@byunrosie]

the third story, the guy has every reason to not trust her, 100%. but if youre at a point where you think those rules are a necessity for the relationship. it means the relationship means to end.

[@ThisDude234]

Facts. I feel for that guy, but you can't force loyalty.

[@tomaszskowronski1406]

I think it's a last ditch efort- they're outlandish on purpose. "If she's willing to accept THAT then maybe there's still a chance"

[@byunrosie]

@@tomaszskowronski1406 i see it more as desperate copium because naturally if you love someone a lot, breaking up with them is your last resort. plus likely lack of self worth thinking the person should be forgiven a third time as opposed to finding someone else

[@tomaszskowronski1406]

@@byunrosie Both? Both.

[@Kikkarlin]

I was coincidentally talking with my parents about valentines day recently and our conclusion was that it is indeed a pretty innocent celebration that isn't just reserved for couples. It is often celebrated among friends too

[@Carriel273]

I like how no one is commenting about the journal one because of how insane it is lmao. But yes the third story of the cheater is hurting my brain, that girl is delusional.

[@j-j8984]

I don't know what to say about that story besides: ew, and Jesus Christ. That's insane and extremely unsettling.

[@marinmowers629]

It’s so bizarre because he never once thought ‘wow she doesn’t act like I imagined maybe she’s a different, I should back off or get to know her better. Instead of projecting harder onto her. It doesn’t sound like he even liked her as a person he just aggressively objectified her body.

[@Carriel273]

@@marinmowers629 I wonder how he became so entranced by her. Like how can a human be so hypnotized like that to the point were he doesn’t even see how insane he is. I don’t get it

[@jackielank9712]

To whom it may concern: Thank you for the quick content warning with a time stamp to skip the story. This is the second time you've done it recently, and it's nice to see a quick bit of kindness to sensitive subjects ❤❤

[@haileytavares7143]

>clicks on video titled red flags >OH NO ABUSE HOW COULD I EVER OF GUESSED THIS WITHOUT A WARNING 😮😮😮😮😮

[@kilertyuw]

​@haileytavares7143 no need to be rude. This person's comment has no effect on your life.

[@risipieces]

⁠@@haileytavares7143actually yeah it’s pretty reasonable for someone to think a light-hearted reaction video wouldn’t get into explicit descriptions about abuse and stalking. do you feel happy with yourself, leaving this comment? did you improve your life to complain about strangers you know nothing about finding use in content warnings? should we throw a party? should we invite bella hadid

[@DarkGob]

@@haileytavares7143 big red flag in this comment

[@faithbangtan662]

Im curious if Amanda is close to someone who has cheated in the past, and thats why she felt the need to defend the girl in the third story. Making excuses for why a person might cheat, not agreeing with strong boundaries, thinking couples counseling is the solution etc. Im glad we had Tommy and Shayne on the opposite side of this line.

[@Djinnerator]

I'm surprised Shayne actually stood his ground this time. In the past, if someone had a shit take, he'd defer to them and go as far as to agree with them, like the time Courtney said a man was a creep for sleeping on his bed naked and his roommate's gf kept entering his room without knocking...and Shayne actually agreed with Courtney with that garbage take.

[@gman1515]

​@@Djinnerator looking back on that, shayne could have just been agreeing with Courtney because they were dating (which wasnt open information at that time)

[@gman1515]

Also to OP of this thread, i dont think amanda was close to a cheater, i think Amanda has cheated, recently. Look at her facial expressions while she defends story 3. Look how even after that op cheats again amanda is still like "oh she must be so unhappy". Amanda identifies with the cheater way too much.

[@turtlesandcheese4092]

​@@gman1515bro is reading WAY too far into this‼️ these are in fact real human beings

[@Djinnerator]

@@gman1515 Yeah I thought about that too. He probably didn't want to create tension in the relationship and just agreed to keep everything calm. He's said before he doesn't like confrontation and wants to keep peace.

[@kittysmacks-so2nt]

How come when a woman cheats its all about what shes missing but a guy who didnt even do anyrhing wrong had the book thrown at him 💀

[@uwufoxie]

Probably for the same reason a lot of people ask what a woman did wrong to make her man cheat. People don't understand that the only person who is at fault is the cheater

[@beardlessdragon]

Telling someone they are "the one" for you after admitting you cheated on them is INSANE

[@Bexx227]

The wagyu couple. He’s 100% correct for canceling. She WASTED $200, but then wants him to be okay with spending MORE money on both her & her parents..?.. But he wastes money??

[@MsBlackQueen82]

I would have went to the restaurant and leave everybody get steaks

[@BeAuTyLoVe17]

Yeah I don't get their take on that one. Wasting food and money always makes me annoyed

[@lavarelease2928]

This is my problem with Smosh Reddit stories. They tend to take the woman's side 90% of the time and try to paint the man as the bad guy

[@comfyfizz7124]

@@lavarelease2928 I was thinking the same thing... They only had this take just because of that. If the op was the woman and guy was the food waster they would have immediately sided with the op.

[@lavarelease2928]

@@comfyfizz7124 Honestly, another example is their reaction to the third story about the girl who cheated

[@brilab]

amanda: "can't touch the man closet" tommy: "don't talk about my past" happy pride month

[@ryanschoeff]

Glad someone else caught that lol

[@lmao...autumnnn]

yess happy gay month !!♥️🫶🏻🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

[@susannairisastarte5192]

🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

[@susannairisastarte5192]

❤

[@Atuchy]

I missed this. When was that? time stamp?

[@phoenixkasai6516]

"Second story" from what was said, it makes me believe her boyfriend doesn't have a good relationship with their own parents to understand that's just her dad showing his affection for his daughter that just became a tradition still to "this" day

[@Sekironprime]

3rd story: honestly the rules sound ridiculous cuz to me, the man knows she wont follow them and is telling her in another "we're completely done" Also Amanda. The girl cheated and went back to talk to the man she cheated with, yeah of course the guy is going to be incredibly untrusting of her.

[@Try_Combs]

Yeah, those rules seemed more like a punishment than an effort to rebuild trust. And it turns out that trust was never on the table...

[@RubyGeeScuderia]

That's what I thought about the rules too! A round about way of sabotaging and finalising the relationship

[@8bitdiedie]

Amanda is definitely that friend who gives their friends false alibis so they can cheat behind their boyfriend’s back.

[@FutzAmok]

If the roles were switched Amanda would be calling the girl a hero for setting boundaries and the man would be a villain for betraying her trust and manipulating her. Shameful responses from her.

[@yosos2]

She was the one that wanted the relationship back, those were his conditions because there was no trust left but he still wanted to give her a chance

[@Mattriarc]

I find it really funny how people can cheat and then try to reconcile with their partner who tries to repair their paranoia and be vulnerable about it, and have the other person go "Oh well, you're not enough, I found someone else while we've been together" and wonder why people have messed up views on relationships after breakups.

[@ninetailskwami]

fr it was supervillain level to leave the person who took you back for a new additional person you cheated with

[@ChefSarah4104]

It's so nice of Marilyn and Julie to take time away from wreaking havoc in a hardware store to sit with Papa Shayne.

[@MSmith-gw3kf]

I generally like Amanda, but I think she's better suited for the Reddit videos that are about super niche topics that are in her wheelhouse (such as the service industry or the true crime/horror stories videos) or topics that are more light-hearted/wholesome in nature. Because she had some truly out-of-touch takes this episode, especially for story #3. Honestly I haven't felt so icked by a cast member's opinions on a Smosh Reddit video since the "World's Worst Family?" video.

[@caffeineandmemes]

Amanda and Tommy’s expressions during the cubicle stories are sending me. They look like they want to evaporate. Also Shayne trying to keep his face cool while reading it. Also the calmness with which Shayne read about the attempting kidnapping was so wild

[@greylizard1040]

If you catch yourself sabotaging your partner because of resentful feelings, that's not love.

[@EliasMorals]

It astounds me that in the first story, the Girlfriend does something bad, then it surprises her when there's consequences for her actions Regardless of the initial arguement occurring, her burning the steaks and TRULY wasting them and then expecting everything to still be fine isn't exactly a good look

[@scringlinbo]

yeah i get that but cancelling her birthday is kinda wild😭 hes her bf not her dad what kind of punishment is that they r both insufferable but she's definitely being painted as a crazy gf stereotype and ofc reddit of all places would eat it up

[@cis_mu7916]

​@@scringlinbo she's his girlfriend not his mum why punish him by burning the steak???

[@scringlinbo]

@@cis_mu7916 the gotcha is kinda crazy when i'm not defending her😭 she clearly has issues and so does the bf

[@hernameispekka_Rebecca]

@@scringlinbo This. Being petty and punishing each other for stuff is not how mature adults act in a partnership.

[@fabianbiere5653]

​@@scringlinbohe shouldn't "reward" bad behaviour nothing indicates he's an ahole in that story

[@moneymaker8815]

I've always said, the scariest scary movies to me are the ones that are either based on real events or could be real, not fake monsters. The stalking one is absolutely spooky.

[@clairearends4781]

As someone who was also born on valentines day, nearly everyone I know gets me little chocolates, flowers, etc for the occasion but also gets me regular birthday gifts. My parents especially always like to go in on a cute stuffed animal and chocolates so calling her father weird is so insecure of him

[@RogueRhiRhi]

That's really good that they also get you normal birthday gifts. I have a friend born on boxing day (December 26th) and she hated it growing up cause her family would say her Christmas gifts were also her birthday gifts. But yeah it's not weird imo for the father to give something small like a stuffed animal and chocolate. On Valentine's Day when I was growing up my mom would get me and my sister chocolates and stuffies and the like. It's a norm for me.

[@wwefan2895]

I have a birthday shortly after Valentine’s Day…. And I don’t get anything for either. It’s whatever because expecting gifts on any occasion is unheard of. Granted I give gifts on others b-days, but no one ever expects a gift

[@clairearends4781]

​@@RogueRhiRhi That's something I've always been grateful for as my family always makes it a point to make my birthday not just about valentines day since I didn't choose to be born then.

[@goingtobed]

Shayne's "..And that'll last!" At 32:33 absolutely KILLED ME. I was dying of laughter omfg

[@and-oh]

amanda's bit about "telling someone that they can't have something, of course they're going to want to go for that" is missing the point. the issue here isn't whether she wants other people/experiences in addition to or instead of her partner, or why she cheated. it's that she broke his trust once, then after she worked with him to regain his trust, she knowingly broke it again and tried to hide it. and now she's upset because the consequences are worse the second time. the dude should have just broken up with her instead of the list of demands, though, because you don't and can't really trust someone if you need more evidence than their word to believe them

[@mathiasnkristensen]

It's easier said than done. The dude clearly wanted to try everything to make the relationship work. It's not easy to give up on someone you love and he therefore tried everything (including setting unrealistic boundaries) to try and make the relationship work. Should he have borken up with her? YES! Can you blame a person in love for making the not-so-smart decision? No.

[@minomy7]

Yeah, tbh some of amanda's comments on this one were NOT it lmao

[@mxthmxn]

amanda's whole point with this thought is that the "rules" he lays out are insane and toxic and that IS toxic behavior and the correct solution here is to break up. not to attempt to control and dictate your partner. op is ABSOLUTELY in the wrong and amanda sees that but the bf is also in the wrong to respond with toxic controlling behavior instead of breaking up with her

[@theamavoid]

His list of demands were obviously a way to get her to leave.

[@Mm-tv3jr]

I think they have Amanda on this podcast as rage bait for views as her takes are really always missing the point

[@Nedread]

1:01:33 omg I love Shayne's pronunciation of 'whilst'

[@ayachamseddine]

Amanda saying the girlfriend doesnt have to care about the waguy just because he cares, justifying intentionally burning them, is really silly. It’s not like one likes blue and the other green and they’re painting a wall in the living room.

[@pupu416]

Yes like destroying something intentionally that your partner was excited about is legit EVIL, how can u defend that

[@Booeyy]

she said the woman was wrong for burning them regardless of how she felt about them-

[@jamesbowen2088]

@Booeyy only after offering several excuses as to why she might do that though. "This guy sounds like he's been treating her like it's his place the whole relationship" and "what if this was her last straw after that fight that morning" It's like she's trying to find ways to excuse her sh*tty behavior and paint the OP as the bad guy

[@pinhead8030]

@@jamesbowen2088 no, she also said that before commenting other stuff

[@StranglerSix]

Amanda has a pattern of defending women. I think she was just raised to be strong and independent with old views, so she has an instinct to defend women who can't speak up because women have had a long bad history, coupled by the fact that she's chronically offline, so her real world views are magnified and often justified. I can excuse her for that, but sometimes, anyone can be an immediate red flag regardless of gender.