The Redemption of Cyberpunk 2077

Today, DJ Peach Cobbler sacrifices Cyberpunk 2077 and Red Dead Redemption 2 to the KZbin gods. The disappointing mess of Cyberpunk reminds him of...another game with noble goals, lofty ambitions, and loads of crappy decisions.
HEAR ME, OH AL-GORE-ITHM. BESTOW UPON ME CLICKS OF PLENTY FOR I HAVE DONE AS YOU BID.
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Exodus in America
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Mountain Hymn Red Dead Redemption 2
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May I Stand Unshaken High Honor
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American Venom - Red Dead Redemption 2
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Ocean on his shoulders Bioshock
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May I Stand Unshaken (Low Honor) Red Dead Redemption 2
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Max Payne 3 Theme
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Samurai Chippin In
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Disappear (Sidewalks and Skeletons) Ruiner
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Cyberpunk 2077: Ambient and Exploration Music
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From Past to Present - Skyrim
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Born Unto Trouble - Red Dead Redemption
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Red Dead Redemption 2 trailer Song
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Mountain Hymn RDR2
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GTA IV Theme Piano
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Cyberpunk 2077: Ambient and Exploration Music
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Major Crimes Cyberpunk 2077
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Videos Used:
Red Dead Redemption All Missions Walkthrough • RED DEAD REDEMPTION - ...
Red Dead Redemption 2 - Arthur Tells Sister He's Dying & Is Afraid (Very Sad Cutscene)
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Special thanks to Zenith Maldren, as Lawman 2: / levidomm
Friends, Commenters, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Cyberpunk, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with Cyberpunk. The noble Cobbler
Hath told you Cyberpunk was ambitious:
If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
And grievously hath Cyberpunk answer’d it.

[@lecisteim_1945]

This entire channel is underrated. Best dessert on KZbin

[@jordanrose8443]

Yes it is.

[@morgang9882]

THANK YOU I completely agree and I’m glad others do too

[@CharzaKitsune]

Eeeeeexcept for me scratching my head about that Capitalism bit wondering if he thinks there’s *really* a better solution If not and he’s simply stating the obvious, fine; I agree Just am genuinely curious if my pessimism is founded or not

[@mynameisearlitsatvshowlookitup]

Well there's no need for that..

[@indravu57]

Ya a lot of video essayist just spout dumb shit that doesn’t mean anything. But he uses analogies and comparisons really well. Maybe just bulk up the videos to also cover counter points to his own argument

[@owlgaming2476]

Once he showed the cyberpunk girl trailer I was like, Oh yeah this is a cyberpunk video not a red dead one.

[@claudiathomas2529]

To be fair I'd be down with him analyzing and breaking down the themes and motifs in both red dead redemption games.

[@claudiathomas2529]

@Nagger cobbler provides a c unique perspective to red dead

[@feno8104]

Cobbler is really good at introducing something else to us and circling it back around to what the title is

[@greendude0420]

Same, and it gave me December 10th flashbacks

[@afreestate8466]

That transition was smooth af, though

[@tylercafe1260]

I'll never forget that time in RDR2 I had a horse die for the first time. It was in the mountains because I was trying to catch the Arabian Horse for RDR1 nostalgia. Ended up being a big long mountain survival horror story with a big ass bear and wolves. The bear killed my horse I was on and since I was in the mountains I was far far away from any fast travel points and since it's the mountains only the rare horse would be my reliable way back out of the mountains. Idk how long I spent up there. Definitely 2 irl days of hunting for food, finding shelter, and fending off pissed off wild life until I found the damn horse. I will never forget how genuine that whole scenario felt. Like I was legit stuck in the mountains do to my own accord and the games wild life AI. That whole experience made me ball my fucking eyes out when I saw that same horse get killed in the final cutscenes. I never felt that experience in any other game unless it was like Minecraft where the whole survival mode is always like that. But for that just to happen to me in a game where they tell me "You're railroaded the entire time" I just don't think it's the whole truth. Play GTAV and then play RDR2. Huge huge difference even though they're very similar. RDR2 just did what GTAV think it was doing.

[@factoryreset855]

Yeah, and I get why some people might say that all those little immersive mechanics might be a chore for them, when you've spent hours feeding your horse, brushing it, comforting it, bonding with it, customizing it and then it dies, it hurts more. Cleaning the guns is not that big a deal as it doesn't need to be done that often and looting might take a while, but you already get so much stuff that it isn't really necessary, I liked the slow gameplay in the open world and really felt immersed. I wish rockstars doesn't get rid of all of that because of complaints like that, because for me, that's where the magic was, not the missions when hundreds of enemies are launched at you, but the slow, quieter, immersive part, with well made animations and attention to details.

[@Spiderella3959]

@@factoryreset855 honestly I really wish RDR2 had a lot less heavily scripted story moments where you are forced on a path, slowly making your way to a marker to go into a cutscene to go into a shooting gallery to go into another cutcene and more of the classic rpg elements where things just kinda happen themselves and you get only vague hints on how to approach things. It would transition into the freeroam, slow-paced survival segments the OP was describing much more organically imo

[@factoryreset855]

@@Spiderella3959 Yeah, the mission's structure was the weakest part of the game imo, while the open world's structure was it's strong one. I wish they'd rework the way they design quests, nowadays when I play, I just roam the map and do side content instead of doing the main story (already finished it once)

[@jessh4016]

lol

[@jonnyjoker01]

@@Spiderella3959 This is exactly the point of this video. RDR2 was developed for 8 years, by about 2000 people according to google. It already was a massive undertaking and developing an immersive and "free-er" quest system would also be one. It's the same reason why mechanics in Bethesda games are not perfect, and why CDPR's games are really strong at the story, quest system and worldbuilding but nothing else. When developing games you have to make trade-offs because it's insanely expensive, the technology moves fast and the more things you stuff into your game the more you risk having a stable and performant product.

[@bastiwen]

The "I'm afraid" from Arthur always brings a tear to my eye :(

[@stardust_2339]

God damn I hated that. "Hey I know you are on your' best bud's funeral but hey, wanna buy a new car?"

[@arkhamcreed4326]

Clearly he wasn't your best bud if you pushed back his funeral for a bunch of random bullshit that TRIGGERS those calls. Seriously if you actually treat the death of your best friend with the respect it deserves and go there first nothing interrupts it.

[@user-bs3wg2kf2t]

^ literally went to his funeral the moment i could. no one interrupts you. :shrug:

[@stardust_2339]

@@arkhamcreed4326 going into the neighborhood triggers those calls, Only thing I did beforehand was clearing Watson as much as I can BEFORE the heist

[@Xuchilbara.]

@@stardust_2339 that’ll do it because you have to much street cred

[@CarlinHerbert]

Wait what

[@se7enhaender]

_"...the NPCs actually don't have bad AI..."_ Wait a minute, you're not actually going to defend this bullsh- _"...they have no AI."_ Ok, you got me scared for a second there.

[@G.A.C_Preserve]

Can't have a bad one if you have none at all Big Brain alert

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Had us in the first half, not gonna lie

[@sweet-lara]

They're just A.

[@emilekub850]

The ad timing was perfect too

[@mrbigglezworth42]

@@sweet-lara They're more A then I

[@Blitzkrieg1605]

Saying hi before you hit 1 million subs. Just don't develop a cocaine habit and don't blow all your money on Lamborghinis.

[@izrael820]

You mean 5 dollar Bj's

[@fermentedcakes]

He can't do both?

[@scottdonahue7633]

That's exactly what I would do.

[@riskit_4_thebiscuit]

Another feature people wish they would add to Cyberpunk.

[@danielroberson5389]

but then Edgerunners came out...

[@aleksanderboguta5974]

Great take. Especially since you can clearly see how at a certain point they realised there's no way they'll ever complete the game before the deadline and just cut everything down to the simplest working version and moved the "open world development team" from adding even more useless buildings filled with nothing and visited by nobody to peppering the map with NCPD activities and heartless sidequests to pump the gametime up to the minimum acceptable quota. Cyberpunk is a complete and utter failure, a wasted opportunity and something sorely needed by CDPR. They had a stellar career up to this point, but everybody needs to fall from time to time to get a reminder, that reality exists and can hit you in the ass. Here's to hope it allows them to grow and release even better games in the future.

[@3093DaNieLe3093]

Ye except the part that they won anyway. They got the money and on steam the reviews are so good and i dont really understand why. This is so shit compared to a lot of indy games that cant be so hyped due to budgets. CDPR failed everythin,they knew this game was bad but..you know money are money so who cares "i hope we ll get fans trust again" well fuck you. Yes i played the game and as soon as i saw the wanting system ,the basic thing this game needed,i new it was gonna be so bad. Nobrainer refund

[@_--_--_]

@@3093DaNieLe3093 Unfortunately the state on consoles has taken most of the attention from players and media to a point that a lot dont even see the utter failures in game design and quality of quests etc. CDPR also used this as a small cover up, directing all attention to "fixing the consoles" and just acting like they didnt know something was really wrong with the core game itself. I do not think they will use this as a learning experience to better themselves, quite the contrary I believe. They never made so much money in that short period of time. They literally made back the develepment and marketing costs for the entire project with the preorders alone. The only thing the managers learn in a big corp is when they make big money, they did something right, so they will believe by overhyping and deceiving customers they can do the same again in the future as they did now, if they really wanted to better themselves they would have atleast adressed the problems with the core game itself by now. Its the same thing that happened with Bethesda, they made FO3, FO4, Oblivion, Skyrim and all of those games were overshadowed by their "bugginess" and thats what players and media paid their attention to in these games, also leading to them to completely overlook the poor game design of all those games. The only reason why a somewhat bigger piece of the player base started acknowledging these issues is because Obsidian showed the players that they could make a far superior game compared to Bethesda and that in just 1 years time with FO:NV. This lead of course to the fact that Bethesda instantly stopped working with them ever again, because they didnt want them to overshadow their internal production or force Bethesda to increase their quality to not contrast as much. In addition to that in such big corps like CDPR (and yes CDPR is a huge corp, their net worth is significantly higher than f-ing Ubisoft and Rockstar) due to product issues that damaged their brand, design leads and engineers will be fired and also removed from the board. Instead the people who made the big $$$ (by overhyping, lying and deceiving their customers), the marketing people, are those who get to be more represented in the board and the decision making process. This automatically begins an unstoppable process where marketing gets more of a say over the company compared to the product people (engineers, designers, etc), which basically means "full throttle into the dark side". Its the same thing that happened with EA, Ubisoft, Bethesda and many other once small and innovative companies that grew into huge corps and placed the people in the leading positions that made the most $$$, and those were the marketing people.

[@arandom35yearold]

I will never understand the statement of CDPR having a "stellar career" like you and many many others claim, when they only ever became somewhat known after a single good game and nothing more. If anything, it feels like they were nothing but a one hit wonder.

[@3093DaNieLe3093]

@@arandom35yearold thats because they showed in TW3 how to make a game with passion and love. The attention to detail for the secondary stories and the quality over quantity given to gamers..not clients to scam. Cyberpunk turn the table upside down,ive never seen such bad product honeslty

[@arandom35yearold]

@@3093DaNieLe3093 Yeah but a single product isnt exactly a stellar career. Or a career in thr first place.

[@alexcarpenter6913]

I do have to say I actually kinda teared up at Jackie's funereal because it reminded me of my fathers' funeral who died when I was 19. Albeit Puerto Rican, yet still felt a lot similar. Shit hit close to home. The memorandums and everything. Shit hit close to home

[@jmorel42]

I love the Spanish reggaeton on the radio station. It was really authentic

[@Shnap1337]

Agreed, they did an excellent job depicting the loss of your best friend, a mother's son, a member of a community and the ripple effects of grief. When I got his bike, I never rode anything else for the rest of the game.

[@magnopere]

@@Shnap1337 stuff like that feels good because it's when your motivation as a player lines up with the motivation of the main character. This does not happen often in CP2077

[@carpet163]

I liked Jackie too. It's just so sad he had to die that early. The game barely gave me any time to get attached to him.

[@SaberRexZealot]

“Red Dead Redemption is about redemption.” No fucking way 😂

[@nathanchappell9850]

I love every part of rdr2 and I love giving Arthur baths because it’s all about caring for a doomed man who isn’t real😩

[@kato2395]

The reason why you gave arthur bath was pretty wholesome

[@thewanderingartists]

Showing Jackie's death in trailers was a dick move, it reduced the shock value and then Jackie was justa timebomb I was waiting to blow up anytime, I didn't feel the impact that could have been if I didn't knew his death was coming.

[@kingcyclops4079]

Makes it even worse that Jackie's death means nothing. If Jackie lived he would have to leave the city or just constantly look behind his back for people trying to kill or arrest him. And even if he did stick around he can't exactly help V he doesn't know anyone who could help V. Jackie would just be turned to a side character like Victor, who occasionally shows up to be your friend that doesn't do to much in the story post prologue. Hell, Jackie's death doesn't motivate V to stop Arasaka or literally anything, just makes him sad and he moves on after a funeral, a funeral that is optional.

[@Dredan143]

I enjoy all those little moments you don't like in RDR2. All those little animations that most developers wouldn't consider putting in. They actually did really immerse me in the world and I still go back to it just to enjoy being Arthur in that world.

[@deadinsidemcgee411]

I’m not ashamed to say I cried during the ofrenda scene in cyberpunk. It’s so damn heart felt, and I honestly said that this is how I want people to remember me after I die.

[@Leoncroi]

I just saw the Far Cry 6 video right before this one, and now, at the twilight of the GTA 6 leak, all I can say is: Be ready. Take2 WANTED those systems in Red Dead Redemption 2 because their core tenants are to make money on everything, all the time, every time. Rockstar MAY want to create a fantastic world with exploration, immersion, and a story with weight, choice, and consequence, but Take2 wants money. And they're depending on their own namesake to carry them through the same repetitive systems they box themselves into, and will get a louder critical praise for their level of detail, overshadowing the actual critique worth a damn. Everything you hate about RDR2, and everything you hate about GTA Online, is going to multiply, amplify, and be worse. Because Take2's vision, their only goal, is to make money. "'A business that makes nothing but money is a poor business.' - Henry Ford" ~ DJ Peach Cobbler

[@sanguin3]

After watching this video, I realize that most of my favorite game franchises have flaws. The Witcher 3 has an over-simplified combat system, Half-Life 2's gunplay is bad despite being a FPS, Deus Ex Mankind Devided's main story is a horrible Shane Dawson conspiracy video, but I still love them nonetheless. A flawed masterpiece is what we really need nowadays, not some middling games that want to be good at everything and eventually fail in the process.

[@NoahDaArk]

And as Angry Joe would put it: “they aren’t good games, they’re legendary games!” And indeed those three games are legends in what they do. The Witcher 3 is a fantastic RPG with an even greater story. Half-Life 2 nails being a unbroken narrative. And Deus Ex is a phenomenal stealth action game. There is no such thing as perfect games… only legendary ones

[@d4s0n282]

@@NoahDaArk man I gotta go play witchers

[@Martyr_of_vigilance]

That intro was deep as fuck. Not a outlook a lot of people think about, or even put on KZbin. Keep up the great work man.

[@slightlyamusedblackkidfrom9153]

Yeah this guys channel is underrated

[@TheOrian34]

I'm happy to hear your rant about RDR2, that game always baffled me for those design decisions and couldn't fathom why people didn't seem to hate it.

[@bmocbruhistotle339]

Since when were we clones of one another?

[@razercat01]

You know how stunned i am with the quality of this Video. This is probably one of the best (may even be the best) Video Game Videos i've ever seen. Holy S**t

[@maaccl6543]

Hahahaha Balls

[@JA070288]

31:14 - Oof that cringey cut away.... Yeah Cobbler you really blew everyone's collective minds.

[@DJPeachCobbler]

Special thanks to Zenith Maldren as Lawman 2: kzbin.info discord.gg/wkrkCFt

[@dowom1452]

play Postal 2, a twisted view from the other side of what games can be

[@TheKnizzine]

My favorite bug that still hasnt been addressed is a memory leak that persists over future saves on that file. In the vodooboys hideout after the whole icebath thing and that. Throw a granade shoot the granade in the air right next to the leader chick, watch the blood and visera fall at a cineamatic 5 fps and have a save that is now a turnbased jrpg.

[@craig.a.glesner]

As someone in Pen and Paper gaming professionally this was kinda what I needed, thanks for the reminder.

[@15DEAN1995]

Star citizen the perfect example of a game trying to do too much and will never release because of it

[@trygve7851]

There is no justice without redemption. There is only revenge.

[@davidebert4987]

I don't mind a mix of awesome story (side) missions and throw away missions that have you go and kill a person. If you're a mercenary you'd be getting those hitman type missions. What bothered me more is that you really wouldn't be doing any of those side mission in the context of a main story mission where you're trying to save your own life in a limited amount of time. Oh. Great vid by the way. Subscribed.

[@DJPeachCobbler]

I would've talked about ludonarrative dissonance, but my poor subscribers have heard enough about it, I'd say. Thanks for the sub, next video's gonna be out of left field, but I hope you enjoy it!

[@49mozzer]

I mean, just cause you're dying doesn't mean the world is gonna give you a handout. Gotta get money from somewhere.

[@TaeSunWoo]

31:14 hate/love how one my fav songs in the game is now a sad feels songs because of Edgerunners

[@maxwell9561]

Watching this video felt like watching a tarantino movie

[@kidsyx]

Death in red dead redemption is in my opinion, one of the most profound characters in media.

[@flef6514]

He never ceases to impress with his ability to totally make you forget the video you're watching with only the intro.

[@GodDrakonus]

Revisiting this after playing some Starfield... I don't understand what gamers want anymore

[@noble9759]

2:54 lmafo BRO i love this channel for moments like this

[@yari4046]

"assassin's creed is about not having fun" you got my sub for that good take

[@KnjazNazrath]

>A game can be built exclusively around interesting combat Yes, I too enjoyed FEAR. >No-one likes these systems That's why I don't play Misery, or any mod which includes misery. I don't want to play a tuna eating simulator.

[@dash_o_napalm594]

Never half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing. -Duke Silver

[@abu6127]

This video and the one in which you reviewed elden ring (that The DOG one) are the best videos I've seen this year. Absolutely love your content 💜

[@chyra451]

This is likely my favorite video 2077. No abrasiveness or low hanging insults, only thoughtful deconstruction of contemporary game design philosophy. Thank you.

[@IronCowboy47]

Red Dead 2 allowed me to really live in the Old West. It wasn’t all gunfights and bank robberies. I got to feed my friends at camp, care for my horse and not just use it for an emergency brake. Up until Elden Ring I haven’t found a world to be immersed in since 2018’s RDR2.

[@thatdudeinasuit5422]

Honestly I reckon Cyberpunk would've done great as a Cyberpunk GTA-like with some basic RPG elements. A focus on the story but some side missions to keep you occupied and reasons to go about the world. The RPG elements boiling down to unlocking abilities like in Far Cry 3 new ways to kill people, make new augmentations available etc. I get what you mean about the spoiling of that conversation Jackie's Girlfriend I remember the frustration when that happens and just yelling NOT NOW at the computer. Honestly I don't think you could've described Cyberpunks flaws better I remember the AI taxi mission very well with the line "BEEP BEEP MOTHERFUCKER!" being yelled at me by an AI taxi with an upper class British accent. But the next mission I did was go to a place kill a bunch of people. It was shortly after then that I stopped playing (haven't played since) because there's been nothing particularly compelling that the game was to offer.

[@xanderalaniz2298]

Assassins Creed... What's great? The world and the exploration of a point in history. What's terrible? The fact that ever 20 minutes I have to go through an Ancient Alien's Deep Dive...

[@merce5434]

I’m so glad i found this channel, a true gem among the mass produced cringe

[@theodoreroosevelt3143]

it's like with books, you want to tell a story, don't make 100 pages about how the weather was like and how green trees were

[@lntroach4027]

I love your work. everything from the intro to the ending was pure genius

[@SnowySchoko]

My mind lagged for like a solid minute after the "cooperations are greedy" part @ 30:00 Because it is so goddamn true... But we all forget this every day, because we don't live in this kinda world anymore, at least for now. Is getting bent through time and space again and again. In the gaming industry and like everywhere else. I will leave my job partially because of this statement. It opened my eyes in a way I didn't want it too until it was too late.

[@Maciekk_]

I really loved the long ass animations and individualy cleaning your limbs in rdr2

[@spectr__]

24:40 yep, when they announced crafting I knew something was wrong... Same reason I stay away from Fallout 4. This whole video is very much why the indie scene is growing. I really want to hear your opinions on things like the Haunted PS1 projects.

[@YUGOPNIK]

This channel good. This channel very fucking good.

[@ianmcvicker1792]

I love the meditation on maintenance that is part of rdr2. It ties me into the world and gives me downtime to contemplate the story unfolding.

[@luckoland88]

My guy puts bioshock 2 music to the scene of John talking to the mysterious stranger? God tier, absolute mastercraft

[@xboxguy1012]

I've only just started playing Cyberpunk 2077 but I can say up to the phantom liberty dlc and even several prior updates the game has gotten better, I know it sucked on release and many people said CDPR sucks as well but the game has genuinely been improved on every platform and so far I'm enjoying the game also my younger cousin has already finished it several times on his Xbox Series S, phantom liberty even adds a new ending to the game which gives the player yet another choice and rhe dlc adds a new district to night city as well but I still understand the frustration I really do also just wanted to say I love your videos man 🦾😎👍

[@isaksuks8995]

Or in other words, cutting content and features to focus on something else, isn’t failure. It’s compromise. Letting something go in order to still get anything

[@Asentinn]

Ahh I'm glad you've chosen to make YT videos instead blog posts. These are great feuilletons.

[@billnyetherussianspy7070]

I came here for a cyberpunk video and got spoiled for the ending of rdr, I bought the game 2 hours ago come on man

[@billgatesisinmybussy4938]

F...

[@billthegatekeeper5923]

@@billgatesisinmybussy4938 nice name

[@Z.O.M.G]

Oof, but you had time to click of at the start

[@Quinnman3]

I don't remember who made it but I recently watched a video comparing half life 2 and cyberpunk 2077, and damn the industry has gone so far backwards its unbelievable.

[@thatjosiahburns]

almost 6 minutes of rdr before the main video start. perfect. absolutely stunning.

[@Zack-bl2gg]

The problem is it’s both undercooked AND overcooked. They wasted their time/didn’t have enough time to do everything they wanted to do, and they didn’t focus enough on one thing to make that one thing good.

[@R4Y2k]

It's funny how RDR2, the best RPG of the past 15 years doesn't even pretent to be an RPG but simply is. Not because of player agency but because they created a story that doesn't even need it to feel personal and has the player immersed into it.

[@jaydino14]

Dude you make so much sense, love the vids

[@murasaki4636]

the Monolog at the start was really touching

[@slajv7366]

2:00 when My parents were building a house there was a thief in our village and he broke a window and stolen water pump and did a bunch of bad things all around our neigborhood. After all even tho everyone knew it was him he didnt go to jail and SOMEHOW ended up driving some sportcars and being rich.

[@AtlisLaren]

Rockstar abandoned reddead online because your right.

[@drrisen-9442]

Well I for one loved the game. On my third replay and probably won’t stop there.

[@bored_person1640]

Insert toxic hate comment bc you have an opinion.

[@carbondragon]

Great video! However, it occurs to me that if you take a bad person who has ceased being bad and who has made the honest and persistent effort to reform and you hunt him down and murder him ... if you make that seem OK, then you give bad people nothing to lose by doing bad things. And the next bad thing might well be to YOU or someone you care about. We have a societal interest in reinforcing the concept of reforming and redeeming people, not just because it's the right thing to do, but because it's the SMART thing to do.

[@mondayslastbraincell1491]

Damn, I probably would've loved Red Dead Redemption 2 for it's story, but I couldn't look past my own frustration trying to understand and grasp my unfamiliarity with the controls (yet to little avail).

[@camzy2000]

23:24 "No one likes this" *meekly raises hand in the back of the room and mumbles* "I liked it" Nah but in all seriousness I understand why folk would find that annoying, maintaining your equipment can be a pain I realise that, but I found it really enjoyable. I recognise it probably gives the illusion of freedom of choice but I got a sense of catharsis when I done that. I don't really know why but for me RDR2 was just sort of this game I could explore the world with my horse and just hang out and relax. Saying that I know that's probably not what people want out of a western shooter where you commit bank robberies and go on killing sprees. I just liked setting up a wee camp, downing a tin of beans, feeding my horse some carrots and having a wee fishing trip, then maybe riding into Saint Denis with a fist full of dynamite and blowing some shit up. Overall, Cyberpunk 2077, interesting game.

[@budderbro666]

RDR2 is a slow-paced, authentic wild west world and game and that's why I and many others bought it. If I wanted a true to life wild west world without having the tediousness of it, I'd watch a movie.

[@spicytriangle4656]

I'm so glad you touched on the whole character you built topic, my biggest problem with rpgs nowadays is that it's always someone else's story now. One of my favourite games ever is the witcher 3 and I love Geralt and his character but I know how Geralt is supposed to act so role-playing against that feels wrong because what he should be doing already feels pre established. If the story could of been tweaked slightly and figured out a decent lore explanation for why you could play a new witcher and make geralt your mentor would would make it my favourite game

[@leemo008]

When the Rise and Fall music comes in, the PTSD hits diffirent

[@insertnamehere658]

2:02 I don't remember him getting shot in the face. In fact, they seem to actively avoid his vital organs for some reason.

[@Voidedraptor]

I forgot this was a cyberpunk video after 2 minutes

[@nickl6373]

I dont know i think its a really cool peice of art, and the glitchiness of it at launch adds to the ethos

[@austinsavage5962]

The main theme of red dead redemption 1 and 2 is that death comes before redemption

[@Ike_of_pyke]

I'd point out that John wasn't really redeemed by his death in any form

[@austinsavage5962]

@@Ike_of_pyke yeah thats why jack picks up right where he and arthur left off

[@yuligamein5502]

oh goody..just yet another vid ..that is basicly a germen siza video at cp2077s expense

[@VerySaltySquid]

OH, this is about cyberpunk 2077

[@nightlight0x07cc]

While you were talking about Red Dead having a story you didn't like, it reminded me of Evangelion and how a good story isn't necessarily enjoyable.

[@alextiedt4481]

I can't agree with you enough about Red Dead 2, I thought I was crazy for not really liking that game. After I got back from that island I just couldn't force myself to play. i Remember really enjoying the first 6 hours.

[@iamsus3144]

Yup same

[@cryojudgement2376]

That 4 hour star wars rant was fun.

[@jakewilcox4776]

My friends keep telling me to play this since I got it on ps5. But when I got it on ps4 it was literally unplayable and after no mans sky I refuse to forgive selling an unfinished game

[@christophbiebas5794]

To be fair, for the most part I didn't care about the animations of rdr2. Meaning that it neither bothered me nor did I enjoy it for the majority of my playtime. I did have a rather enjoyable phase though where I was really role-playing this game and those animations and mechanics, especially the eating and sleeping ones immersed me deeper into the world

[@flusen3959]

I love rdr2 and the long animations and all the realism. i like eating food, sleep in my tent and feed my horse. the only thing i dont like is the time i need to lood enemies. thats to long. and that im often forced to take to rifles in a Mission.

[@Rainbowhawk1993]

“When you try to please everyone, you please no one.”

[@letsBrn]

"A game where the player can do anything is a game that focuses on nothing" - Yahtzee crosshaw

[@kasparpantzare8529]

Well said no more need to be said

[@stevie_blunder344]

The embodiment of what went wrong with cyberpunk 2077

[@EpicGamer-kj1tj]

😔👊 socity

[@AhmadWahelsa]

I really hope if they ever decided to make Witcher 4, they don't listen to some angry casuals who says the game are way too long.

[@hexahedronhead7516]

“The marketing seemed to imply it was the second coming of Jesus Christ but lord and savior is not a genre” is such a raw line. Your style of discussing topics is fantastic. You could title your videos anything and even if they were about something completely different I wouldn’t notice, because you get me hooked every time. Keep up the great videos and please talk about anything you want, because it will be a treat to listen to regardless

[@TheElephantChumpkin]

I forgot I was watching something about cyberpunk through the intro. I mean, a compact in-depth analysis of RDR1 in 5 minutes about the folly of redemption and forgiveness that had me hooked was literally just context. What a masterpiece. I'm starting to see a pattern that the best content creators on this dogshit platform tend to be the most hidden. Well done.

[@Orinslayer]

Visibility becomes a curse. KZbin channels die because they try to monetize everything they make to a growing audience.

[@Eli_Guy]

"A heartfelt dumpster-fire" is probably the best way to describe this game There was something about it that kept me playing through all that nonsense

[@tyler547]

I really liked the city environment, even though it was lacking in detail. I recently played it for the first time so I never saw how rough it looked at launch. I still ended up getting bored of the game and started another Witcher playthrough lmao

[@wesleyleigh4063]

You call it a dumpster fire yet you played it and enjoyed it?

[@guyWSonicpicture]

@@wesleyleigh4063 yah...you can do that..

[@sashimi879]

@@tyler547 that's a shit game as well

[@niksatt4843]

Despite the bullshit I hear I still want to play

[@zekebednarczuk5739]

That 5 minute opening was quite possibly the single best written opening to any video I have ever seen. In a few short minutes, you perfectly summarize the core thesis of a game, a game separate from the game you analyze in the video, so that you can then fall back on said analysis as a lens to view the prime focus of the video. Masterfully done.

[@feandil666]

A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.

[@tomaspereira2787]

Me: *deletes game I AM THE GREATEST GAME DESIGNER

[@adventuringwolf8517]

You only really beat the game when you go outside and play some B-ball.

[@WretchedRedoran]

Wasn't that the philosophy behind Ico on the ps2?

[@tycorrell5390]

I really liked RDR2's excessive animations. Looting slowly was done so you could only gather a few precious items before the lawmen showed up. Always made me feel on edge and made it a gamble. Skinning was laborious to gross you out. Sort of ties into the atmosphere of the game, gritty. Cleaning guns made me appreciate my favorite guns more, made an etching or design upgrade feel shiny even if I'd had it for awhile. Rewards you with accuracy. Whether Arthur decides to clean his guns or not, works for his character. Arthur was a slow, walker and runner which is indicative of how weak he was getting. John runs quite a bit faster in contrast. You can groom your horse. You can pet dogs. Smoking a cigarette in combat is something you should've done before combat. Game punishes you for not preparing. Heavy animations do not work for the majority of games though. I appreciate in Elden Ring that you can loot quickly from your horse. In fact, you can't take damage during lever or door animations, which just works for the type of game, because it's already unforgiving and needs that balance. But for me, the animations in RDR2 never got old, but I can understand those that complain.

[@the_real_mr_wolff]

Super based. Those are things I’ve enjoyed about the game but have never fully realized until reading this. Thanks dawg

[@andraskovacs5431]

A year later. After watching the cyberpunk anime I realised what 2077 did wrong. While the world and the story in it were punk... The game itself wasn't. It followed every single modern gaming tradition and lost itself in them.

[@VeritasGames]

Finally, for the first time in a long time... A KZbinr who's not a fucking moron. Someone who doesn't just parrot the same bullshit braindead ideas over and over. Someone who actually thinks for themselves. +respect to you good sir...

[@astronova6150]

ironic cuz these types of comments are literally on every critique video of cyberpunk

[@notjimpickens7928]

He literally said the same crap as yongyea and everyone else who was 100% team CDPR before the community turned against CDPR. Cope harder

[@knight1706]

@@notjimpickens7928 “Cope harder” take your own advice homie.

[@southernofculture]

thanks for bringing this dude's videos to me ive enjoyed everyone

[@neilkuckman6627]

@@notjimpickens7928 Well... Arguably... The community didn't just turn on CDPR. CDPR released a shit game.

[@CyberPonz-nc3oh]

Plot twist: the glitches are just Johnny Silverhand messing with you.!

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

You write this comment everywhere.

[@SirDankleberry]

@@mikhaelgribkov4117 And yet he's not wrong.

[@Gurnium]

not wrong

[@patrickobrien1198]

So if redemption doesn't matter you want them to like, shoot the game to death in broad daylight instead for justice right? Idk man it's still a pretty kickass game

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

@@patrickobrien1198 emm, what? Do you replied to wrong comment? By the way, they should be the ones to get punished, not game. People were all to foolish to buy into "We aren't like other companies owo" and forgive some stuff, but now it's clear, they are new stage of asshole corpos who are self-aware and know what strings to use.

[@MachoMan_Vert]

I honestly love the way he approaches his points. Like he starts off at a totally unrelevent thing and slowly brings it to the point that he really wants to talk about in way that it makes sense.

[@TheSoulreaper6000]

As an avid gun person, I generally liked cleaning my guns in RDR2, wish it was fleshed out to cleaning the springs, receiver, bore and trigger. Just because I'd spend hours just doing that lol. I enjoy having a lil bit of realism, like eating, sleeping and drinking. Or cleaning guns and making sure equipment isn't degrading and breaking, it add more depth to the gameplay, maybe not mentor impact but just enough to burn boredom off.

[@angelgjr1999]

Yeah I agree, RDR2 is easily the greatest open world game of this gen. No other game comes even close. And IT WORKED on day one! Not like CP2077 that is still broken months after release.

[@zacklastname2362]

This is why I wish I could get him to do a video on Escape from Tarkov.

[@HerbertFilby]

One of the nice quality of life improvements I've seen in some games like No Man's Sky or Subnautica: "Realism" (hunger, thirst, etc) vs "Exploration" (no hunger, etc) settings when you start a new game. It's always nice to have the ability to turn off stuff like this but at least give the player a choice if they don't want to be bothered by being too real. For straight realism, I love Kingdom Come: Deliverance, which has a lot of mechanics like eating, but they never really get in the way of gameplay. The animations don't take forever and don't waste your time as a gamer. Take a bath? Screen goes dark for like 2 seconds and "you've bathed as well as you can in a trough" message pops up, and you can go on your merry way.

[@nomad4713]

Same lol

[@mrrey3481]

I can see why, but I would disagree. The thing I've learned in last couple of years: is that if a game\movie\book\manga does not keep you engaged - it's doing something wrong. Things like that while are realistic and fun once in a while (shaving in Withcer 3 for example) are chorus that are there not to keep you entertained, but busy. And I hate it

[@sadraaskari4672]

I personally loved the realism in rdr2 even the long animations

[@nutscheese4510]

I think it was just a more simpler example to contextualise the problem with cyberpunk. His main point was that once they refine their focus and improved the foundations, they should then add on shit like crafting, skills, etc. RDR2 has a good story and gameplay, they added those mechanics as a cherry on top - without those, the mechanics will be pointless and tedious.

[@nutscheese4510]

Unless.... the main focus of the game became a survival rpg

[@jeremy6647]

Dido

[@alekspogacnik9804]

I love the fact that i can do all that in rdr2 it emerses me in the game, into arthurs life

[@sonkeschmidt2027]

I feel that it was a daring shot... And successful. Normally I find these kind of things utterly pointless but here they pushed you into a more meditative approach of the game and with that into immersing yourself into the game... As long as you let the game do that with you, if you allow it to take your hand so that it can show you what it wants to show. If you don't want that then it feels forced so I can understand that some people really don't like that feature because have have to surrender to it to enjoy it (since it's not really optional). It dead risky to push that on the player and say "look this is how we want you to experience the game, we even took tons of work and resources to make an these little animations for it. So do it!" Some people will not like that obviously, they want their freedom, that's why they play games. But for me personally it was perfect. Perfect to loose myself in the game and loose track of what was happening to be immersed in a harder and yet simpler time. I wouldn't have done it without that I would have rushed it and missed the joy of just being present in the game...

[@MrCarrotCake]

Honey look cobbler posted

[@DJPeachCobbler]

"Wake up the kids, get them out here, he's gonna talk about Skyrim!"

[@dorotawojtak8117]

?!

[@wacky-physics7506]

I'm sorry, but at this point videogamedunkey cannot exceed you, he can only equal you, this video demonstrates such legendary insight that not even he seems to possess despite you presenting it so obviously. Overall, the two of you cannot be compared, but I want you to know, even if it's on this old, crusty ass video, that your effort doesn't disappear, every drop of it provides wondrously. Idk if you'll ever read this, maybe I should write it like more of a stubborn asshole.

[@whirligig_saw]

this is some underrated shit right here

[@SingaporeLoveItachi]

The game is just...there. What is it? An RPG? FPS? A GTA like game? Sandbox? Sure yeah, but is one of those mechanics polished enough? No. Does it have brilliance moments? Yes. As Woolie said before at the end of the Super Best Friends Play Heavy Rain playthrough streams - "Wasted potential will always be worse than a game with no potential at all."

[@t.7124]

It’s crazy because even before the game cane out we didn’t know wtf it was, other than an « RPG Experience » which is funny because they call it an action adventure now.

[@aagh8714]

wasted potential is way better than nothing, at least someone else can snatch up the idea or be inspired by it

[@jessh4016]

It's a AAA game. It's a new genre where they add just a pinch of everything from the spice cabinet and no specific flavor actually shines through

[@TheMrcalcovaify]

"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."

[@TheMrcalcovaify]

which might explain why things keep evolving into crabs..... make cyberpunk have crabs is the takeaway here

[@sqworm5397]

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[@sqworm5397]

this reply is perfect

[@ultimaxkom8728]

I disagree. Perfection is achieved when there's nothing more to add *AND* nothing left to take away.

[@mikayelhakobyan1653]

Reading the comments and seeing a lot of people saying "The game is good now" Its like none of you got the point of the video.

[@kneeofjustice9619]

It’s reminds me of No Mans Sky players

[@bmocbruhistotle339]

Or maybe they believe in redemption? Some of us don't like to play god, you know.