Bioshock Retrospective: A Legacy of Beautiful Failures

[@atlas1102]

" Is a man not entitled to tell the IRS to get *FUCKED!?* " Best line in the video

[@Oscar-gt4sj]

Bioshock 1 in a nutshell

[@longbeardbobson4710]

Best line of TRUTH.

[@TheLegenda-ug9jc]

I'm trying to find that joke but I can't seem to, can anyone put a timestamp?

[@Wolfy420]

@@TheLegenda-ug9jc 40:45

[@TheLegenda-ug9jc]

@@Wolfy420 Thanks

[@ryanerickson3063]

Survival horror as a little sister...I want that so bad now I may weep openly. So man of todays problems can be traced to marketing having too much of say in developing products as opposed to just advertising them.

[@Cheesepuff8]

Yeah every game in a franchise doesn't have to be the same genre

[@marreco6347]

Poor marketing people are just doing their jobs, the blame is the ballooning budgets and companies pushing expensive hardware. Why the hell your thoughtful political satire needs perfect water reflections or thermodynamic horse balls?

[@thebighurt2495]

Theory: Would a better alternative to "Making You Feel Bad" for harvesting Little Sisters instead be to make Jack slowly turn into a Splicer each time he harvests one? Like, the interface get's blurrier and it get's more difficult to use the more intelligence-based abilities like hacking and cameras?

[@asthmeresivolisk3129]

No. The ludonarrative theme is "Do what is best for you, even if at the expense of others". Instead, each time you save a little sister it should spike up the difficulty. It shouldn't give you a big Adam reward for helping the little sisters. In fact, you should get 0 Adam for helping the little sisters. The game should stomp your balls for helping the little sisters. The game should drive you to rationalize being a depraved child murderer to make things just ever so slightly easier. To help yourself, even if at the expense of others.

[@thebighurt2495]

@@asthmeresivolisk3129 Wasn't the entire arc about Ryan having that attitude and how it ruined his little paradise? Wouldn't it be the narrative's goal to be: "Being selfish is bad"?

[@asthmeresivolisk3129]

@@thebighurt2495 Yes, yes it was... in layman's terms. Essentially the message was twofold. The meta narrative (formed around the gameplay itself) is that you're a slave to the game's objectives and to a larger extent Frank Fontaine. The ludonarrative however tried to marry your desire to survive at all costs in this hellish landscape with the game mechanics supporting the opposing ideologies of altruism and objectavism. The key word here is tried. The game shouldn't make you feel bad for killing the little sisters because of 2 reasons. 1. Any sane and decent person would find it obvious that killing a child is pure evil. So making you feel bad for doing so is unnecessary. 2. In order to hammer in the destructive effects of objectavism the game should PUSH you to compromise your morals to achieve your goals, without making you feel like a monster in the moment. Video games give players the unique opportunity to experience a story in a more personal and active fashion. You are the pilot behind the scenes in a game and YOU make the decisions. By making the choice to spare the little sisters exponentially more burdensome for your character or would reveal "who you are in the dark". If you transformed over the course of the game the message would feel more like you were being hit over the head with an anvil, obviously killing children is wrong, you don't have to make my metaphorical transformation into a monster that blatant. Instead it is far more effective for a player to be pt in the position where they justify and rationalize their child killing tendencies with the concept of "the ends justify the means" so that at the end of the game, when their victory is hollow because killing little sisters makes you a physical god and nothing in the game challenges you anymore... then you can reflect on the monster you've become. Was all that bloodshed necessary? Did you really think what you did was okay? At that point you'd pick up the game again and trudge through the experience anew, with a new goal. To save the kids, even if it makes the game insanely difficult. You would experience the themes of the game first hand, the power of a megalomaniac thirsty for power and objectivist to the core. And that of an altruist who silently suffers to save something seemingly "insignificant" to the "big man". That's why I say make the game crush you for making the right choice. Because doing the right thing is obvious, but it's also not easy.

[@kwiiin_]

They wanted Jack to become slowly insane, yet left it to a thought.

[@marreco6347]

@@asthmeresivolisk3129 I don't get why people think the theme is "Do what interests you" instead of "Because some rich fucks don't have limits, you don't have a choice". If anything, the difficulty should spike up and you should harvest the girls not for your own benefit, but to complete the mission you're obligated to complete.

[@tomcruise1492]

Andrew Ryan is the true gatekeeping, gaslighting girlboss

[@cureorsomething4121]

It’s hard to disagree with his assessment...

[@aghitsaplane4262]

Andrew:Gatekeep Atlas:Gaslight Tenanbomb(How the fuck do you spell her name?):girlboss

[@tomcruise1492]

@@aghitsaplane4262 the triple threats

[@archdukefranzferdinand2112]

Joe

[@archdukefranzferdinand2112]

Joe mammoth

[@ARBESProductions]

"A Legacy of Beautiful Failures" it's a good way to describe all my relationships so far

[@mrcocoloco7200]

Damn good luck man.

[@alexeyserov5709]

I think what Bioshock said in the end is pretty clear. It is and was meant to be (especially with addition of Burial at Sea) a game about personal redemption, repaying debt, and everyone's capability of both good and evil. But the rest of it - fascism, religion and political commentary is pretty much fluff that may be was meant to be something more but ended up as a decoration. And at the end of the day it is a great story of redemption and personal choices. And a very fun game.

[@brownleelogan1]

Don't forget about being a dad. In bioshock you learn to be a dad, in 2 you have to prove you can be a dad, and in infinite bad dads go for a swim

[@anonimus370]

I will paraphrase , but as the 16th rule of the internet says: sometimes, if you fail in an epic way, it might become a winning failure .

[@rattle5426]

I recently found your channel and i just want to say that i truly appreciate how much heart you put into your videos. They are great and worthwhile.

[@DJPeachCobbler]

DJ Peach Cobbler Discord: discord.gg/2BB9Tx7 Thanks to Zenith Maldren for voicing Andrew Ryan. kzbin.info/door/o6cn6Rr_0HwSqRqnvBpBpw The cartoon at 14:00 was created by Meat Canyon, who is amazing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/anzLpqmhh9JqoNU

[@cessna1022]

On hard difficulty with Vita chambers disabled i feel you get the truest form of bioshock. You can turn off Vita chambers so when you die you redo the level. Obviously if youre struggling at one part the game doesn't want to totally reset because you died, but some people prefer that kind of punishment because those players understand they made a mistake and they can do better. It's not a difficult game, its a well balanced game with scaling difficulty. And thats why i love the first bioshock...

[@5ebliminal]

43:40 no fundip credit

[@oggolbat7932]

If I had to pick a lesson about something, it would be that we can't just forget the past. Booker being reborn into comstock after all those atrocities he commited just ked to more of the same atrocities. If we forget the past, we are condemned to repeat it. Always a city, always a man, always a lighthouse.

[@riddell26]

We grew up in the Golden Age of games. Yet we had no idea, till it had come and gone.

[@frankkendrick7751]

Man, I love it when you look back at games, dissect them, and encourage us to look deeper into games and think critically about them. Bravo! This is only the second retrospective I've seen of yours, but I think I now understand the kind of effort you put into these and so I can't wait to watch more!

[@upielipsonyoutube9272]

Dishonored does a great job in making the gameplay HEAVILY affect the story

[@damobeck1]

Not really. There is a body count and if you go above it everyone is a well developed character, if you go below it, everyone is happy fun land people where the only person who is evil is a cartoon villain.

[@luisfuentes3846]

@@damobeck1 yeah it’s more like a test to see if you don’t want to have fun and use the plethora of cool spells and weapons to kill these copy/paste guards and soldiers who will attack on sight and are nameless and play no role in the story besides obstacles. Dishonored is an action game with tacky stealth and shit “morality” system. Drop mic 🎤

[@cxeroannuki2840]

that's not really what "ludonarrative dissonance" is about, though - harmony isn't about having choice, it's having the gameplay and story support each other. LISA deliberately undermines many of the choices you make, but it works since it goes to show you that you don't always have very much control over the sort of person you want to be.

[@kwiiin_]

@@damobeck1 Dishonored also counts if you rob people and shops, if you're alerting enemies and civillians, if you use rats (or bloodflies) and I think that's more than just body count. It counts in, but not only that.

[@sirpretzel822]

@@luisfuentes3846 I really liked the stealth aspect personally, one of the best stealth systems in any game. Other than that, you're right about the game as a whole.

[@JordonTheo]

They aimed for the stars. I think the result of these games is amazing, even for their flaws. I wish more developers would actually push boundaries like this.

[@kingjules8744]

You seem to be one of the few people on this platform that doesn't give a shit about the opinionated standards on how to do things, and you try to tell something with Love and with Clarity but without hesitation and fear. I love that. Never lose that quality. You are putting a good standard on critiques as a whole for doing so.

[@ogdenwernstom4085]

I just gotta say, I found this channel two days ago and have binged almost all your videos. Keep up the good work and I hope your channel continues to grow.

[@Freqv]

It’s funny because MATN said Fallout 4 has perfect ludonarrative harmony because of the scavenger aspect and the mechanics that come with it, but fails to realize that it kills the aspect of role playing when 1/3 of the game is settlement building and scavenging

[@Freqv]

@Nagger I’ll never forget in fallout 3, he said Megaton has food because a couple of mole rats that spawn outside 😂😂

[@Freqv]

@Nagger 😂 stop you’re killing me 😂oh and don’t forget Fallout 3 is better than New Vegas

[@Siruelf]

Beautifully crafted video. A tough pill to swallow as Bioshock is my favorite game ever made and I am very attached to the series since my childhood. But this video managed to confirm all the gripes I had with the series and open my eyes to them even more. There were some things I didn't agree with but everything else was spot on.

[@thelasthunter7906]

I know you probably aren't reading comments over half a year after its release, but I would like to throw my hat into the ring and share what I personally think Infinite is about and how It's gameplay can, in a certain point of view, support the story To me, the over the top nature of Booker's backstory is in an of itself satire. Satire on the edgy nature of game protagonists. And the whole "There is always a lighthouse etc" is a reference to shooter games in general Most all have the same base story beats and mechanics. You are some special character, be it a special forces operator or a mythical being. You go to exotic locations and fight crazy enemies that are just as over the top as your character. Guns are all pretty much fitting the archetype of "Sniper, Pistol, Rifle etc". Those are constants Variables are the gimmicks. Leaning, ordering a squad, fighting on a different planet, fighting in a sunken city. The thing to me that makes me view Booker as a unique character is that, for all his flaws as a character, he tells a compelling message. All other shooter games, the protagonist shoots or stabs or strangles the bad guy and goes home. But no matter how hard Booker fought, he only made things worse for both him and his daughter. So by the end its Booker accepting that he cannot win and simply to die that truly he beats the game. He stops perpetuating the violence that ruled his life, and goes out relatively peacefully, surrounded by loved ones. To end the cycle. To end the cycle of repetitive games with nothing to say The DLC, Burial at Sea however hits an important note. No one event will end that cycle. These games will always be made, so long as there is demand. But hey, I'm no professional critic. We are all allowed to have different opinions

[@speetza6265]

“I’m the CFO” is now my favourite delivery of anything ever.

[@homoe7976]

As with many things, Bioshock's core message can be boiled down to "WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY" with the bottom text up to your own interpretation.

[@Kelis98]

All three Bioshock games are great, some of the best in gaming. And aside from some flaws hear and there are all amazing and have fun have fun gameplay with great stories. It isn’t a legacy of failure it’s a legacy of success Also 2 is amazing and worth playing

[@thetangaledbug7670]

Did you watch the video?

[@thetangaledbug7670]

56:13

[@emery2nd]

Holy shit. I didn't even realize I was here for an hour. I'm gonna go now...

[@alexmanning600]

Glad someone is making passionate videos about this sort of stuff out there. Stumbled across this channel and I'm glad I did. I've always have had very similar opinions about games as you do, but had few and far between friends to share that with. This is a breath a fresh air. Keep it up man, and don't change.

[@shinimaplayz7932]

Dude even tho I'm like 10 months late to this video I want you to know your absolutely right, I have a burning passion for the bioshock games just because of the atmosphere alone. Hell I'd even call em some of my favorite shooters. I just love the gun play and plasmids, and hell I still remember wrench damage booster tonics and lighting plasmid was a fun tactic. But that's besides the point. I love them games dude thank you for talking about this. Whenever you read this I hope you have a great day :D

[@RecluseBootsy]

The "oh but i do anyway" bit was spot on. Infinite was the only Bioshock i didn't care enough to finish. The Ludonarrative Dissonance you touch on was too abrasive for me.

[@youngthinker1]

I enjoyed 2 over 1, because the story was much more simplistic, and made sense. You are a slightly famous outsider, kidnapped then turned into a monster, but your one tie to your humanity is your little sister, who so happened to be the daughter of a major cult leader within Rapture. Each step you take within Rapture towards your adoptive daughter represents you attempting to rebuild your identity that was so wrongly stolen from you. Each of your moral actions have more of an impact on your daughter than on you, as you are the only positive man in her life. So you can play the diver as either a determine survivalist who will use everything he has to survive so turns your daughter into a survivalist who sees others as simply tools to be used, or you are a Christian who saves those who hurt you, and sacrificed what little you had to those who need it, which turns your daughter hopeful in rescuing the other little girls from their conditioning within the cult. This even colors your aggressive actions within the game. Are you the kind of man who strikes after a threat has been determined, or one who strikes when he has an opportunity? These things line up with your character choices. Still, I see why players did not like the game over 1 or infinite. Both have meme moments that players still remember to this day, but suffer from significant flaws. I still don't care for infinite's story or what they tried to do with it, as it destroys all of Bioshock's lore.

[@moeheil8839]

Descent is the highest form of patriotism, oftentimes, the harshest critics are the biggest fans, criticizing a piece because they know it can be better, because they WANT it to be better. You truly love this franchise and it shows.

[@bones8431]

Love watching hour long videos about games I've never played

[@Superunknown190]

In regards to the difficulty, that's why I always turn the Vita-Chambers off and play on hard. It's challenging, but when you die you get all your stuff back.

[@Cheyne_TetraMFG]

I truly appreciate this video, because I have such incredibly mixed feelings about both (haven't played 2, mostly bc I heard it wasn't like either of the others). I really actually liked the story, though if I thought about it too much it would begin to bother me because of the philosophical inconsistencies. But they're nice stories, almost great stories...but they just miss the mark.

[@MothFable]

Initial shriek reference was epic man

[@johnathanhodskins5820]

This content is incredible for such a small channel

[@itsthatnerdable]

Mint Chocolate Chip obviously. And great video, looking forward for your future content

[@legoshocktoyphotographer0451]

You seem to misunderstand that Objectivism is based on rational self-interest. In the case of saving or harvesting little sisters, it's in your rational self-interest to save them (as you get additional Adam, as well as tonics and other things you wouldn't have gotten otherwise from Tenenbaum).

[@diamondkyle812]

That got a little heavy handed in the end with the violin music but that video made some good points

[@henrybird2731]

He probably didn’t listen to any of the voxophone tapes the litter the entire game because the vigors do actually play a part you just have to freaking explore

[@christianmyers7386]

As a long time fan of the series, this was beautiful. Not only did you explain what the series did… which is a commentary about beliefs taken to the extreme (and that’s putting it simply). But you narrowed it down to the tiny things… Rapture having already collapsed vs. You’re the one who causes Columbia to collapse. I didn’t think of Ludonarrative dissonance and Bioshock being one of the prime examples of a game that falls into it.. but now I kinda see how it is the series that led to the term being coined. You also touched on an idea… Just because the game was a technical failure at what it was trying to accomplish… doesn’t mean we can’t love or appreciate it. So many people will bash a game without representation of another side

[@capivaraimperadora9703]

when you started comparing Elizabeth to Alex, I could swear to god you were talking about the ghosts in Destiny

[@Jack-pc9sp]

17:31 BioShock allows you to turn off Vita chambers and rely solely on manual saves. Focus on Big Daddies just before exiting a level so you're fully equipped and stocked as you can be for an encounter. Big Daddies despawn permanently after progressing to the next level so you can't come back overpowered with late game upgrades. Hack everything, especially turrets, they will tank some damage and add to your DPS against a Big Daddy until theyre destroyed. Hacking Vending Machines is important as well as theyll offer you alternate ammo types and discounts on others, improving ammo availability. Enemies respawn, so they can be farmed for loot without spending ammo by luring them to friendly turrets and security bots Kill everything in the vicinity so you can focus on a Big Daddy, preferably with Enrage so you can get some free damage on the Big Daddy while eliminating enemy Splicers. Be generous with stun attacks like Electrobolt, your eve is most valuable in denying damage rather than dealing it once you're in direct combat. When you first approach a Big Daddy, start the fight near environmental hazards like oil spills or pools of water to get in some free damage. You can use Security Bullseye to wear down Big Daddies while hiding using Natural Camouflage or just finding a good hiding spot. Finally, learn the position of all the explosive barrels in a level before a fight in order to chuck them at Big Daddies to deal huge chunks of damage to their health.

[@realitywasno]

coming here a few years too late. But I am loving your content more and more which each passing day, including the direction you are currently going. Good. Fucking. Shit.

[@justabaldguy]

Stellar work on this video. I'm new to your channel and really love your approach. I can tell you've put a lot of time here and I appreciate it. I love getting lost in long videos breaking down interesting topics like video games or technology. Just wanted you to know my favorite ice cream is a Phish Food by Ben & Jerry's. I love chocolate and gooey add-ins. I'll agree cookies and cream though is quite hard to beat. Keep up the good work.

[@gnarfarmer]

A quadtych objectively is what you call a group of 4 connected art pieces though

[@stephenlaswell4341]

Undertale imo is the best example of ludonarrative harmony

[@stylesknowles1543]

I had to clip that 5 gum part and send it to my girlfriend I had a piece the other day for the first time and couldn’t describe the feeling.

[@turbotoke8882]

cool video and all... but i was just expecting you to talk a bit more about Mario and Sonic Olympic Games 2008 for the Nintendo Wii home console

[@MrNobodyy99]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but bioshock infinite wasn't exactly about fascism, but rather manifest destiny and American exceptionalism. Whether that's different from fascism, I don't know.

[@acroyear6777]

It is, the maker of this video doesn’t even know what fascism is.

[@thtb]

Cobbler, you totally missed that there is near 0 difference in adam gain regardless of if you harvest all sisters or "safe" them and just get the extra extra adam where the girls hide out.

[@pull4782]

I love you cobbler, but I would say you missed the conclusion that bioshock was going for. At least in my opinion, on the internet, in a comment section. To me, the reason we met with Elizabeth and learned that there is always a lighthouse is symbolic and metaphoric. The lighthouse represents power and government, or control in general. There is always someone exerting control over the people. We see this with the fascist society in infinite or with big daddies in 2 or with, well, a slave obeys, in 1. I think bioshock is actually going for a message similar to "there is always someone in control messing stuff up" to put it in laymen's terms. That's the consistent issue in every bioshock game, the government being a bit screwed up. Elizabeth is showing us that in all these realities as long as there is a government we will always be screwed over and manipulated. And that's why we need to go anprim, join me brothers in returning to monke and dying of preventable diseases.

[@bearlogg7974]

Starving and eating potatos for a lifetime or cracking a little girl in half for superpowers? Damn where do i sign up for the objectivist club?

[@MegaCygnusX1]

A friend once described Bioshock to me as "Deus Ex for console owners". Much as I like the games, I feel this is the most accurate summary of the series I've heard.

[@nicholasrossano7340]

Did not expect a John Hiatt clip.

[@wretchedgames5194]

That F off irs part killed me

[@neddywight7639]

Maybe these games are a bit more parabolic than you first thought. Maybe they’re not trying to tell a sensical, chronological, or satisfying story; rather to evoke really strong emotions with stark and striking imagery and atmosphere. To make you think about the world and the intentions of the people around you in a more cynical way, just like a fable. Just a theory

[@unib4324]

This is in my opinion your best video

[@ActitisHypoleukos]

*actual good quote with eddard* imma drop a like right now

[@packardcaribien]

43:15 I always thought he should just buy some makeup and cover the AD the moment he saw the false shepard signs.

[@maadyarz]

man, this is marvelous

[@_gherf]

28:55 Honestly, I don’t see how anyone could NOT choose to get a bunch of daughterwives. Might as well call me Lot, iykwim.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

"I mean is a man not entitled to his little girls?" -DJ Cobbler

[@gavinator.3587]

After finishing this video I get the feeling Elizabeth was supposed to be the player character. Your takes on games that try very hard to say something but fail is very interesting. I'm very interested to hear your take on Kane and Lynch 2.

[@taranhase4396]

Arrh great work man, you really have a great eye. Very artistic keep it up 💪

[@harris23456]

I think I just now realize why bioshock infinite story has all this spacetime bullshit It's a responce to the ludonarrwtive dissonance crap. "Our gameplay doesn't tell the same story as our core narrative? Oh yeah well there's an infinite number or games and protagonists and shit so it doesn't matter if ours does so long as someone else's does"

[@skylar874]

You could argue that about marvels spiderman. Norman's escaped test subject.

[@LivelyGhost42]

Nice use of the Far Cry 5 Menu Theme

[@iammichaeldavis]

10:00 got a sincere, sincere LOL out of me

[@hakimehamdouchi7468]

What a great art piece of a video.

[@therattleinthebook397]

I like the vast majority of your content, so despite me literally being an objectivist, and the first 5 minutes of the video just being you misrepresenting objectivism, I still won't unsub, because you're a cool guy.

[@phantom9062]

Whenever I seen part 2 I shit myself cause I don’t realize this video was an hour long. Which is awesome!!

[@nostopit179]

“Hellfuck nightmare world” words of a true poet

[@pedrohenrique-kl2xr]

I beat bioshock in the hardest difficulty saving all the little sisters with scarce ammo on my first playthrough. I feel like a hero now

[@isaacguerreiro3869]

Interesting video! Thank you for your dedication to producing one hour of incredible, well-thought commentary. I would like to say, that the triumph of Bioshock is to make a whole damn AAA game only to end the story. Bioshock Infinite story is to kill Bioschock series.

[@pseudohai9006]

TLDR for anyone wondering: DJ Peach Cobbler made a critique saying the Bioshock franchise is BAD

[@yellowfellow7246]

You know guys, I've got the creeping feeling that we actually, in fact, live in a society.

[@joesmith-im1he]

The best ice cream flavor is black liquorice hands down don't @ me

[@TheSquidNinja]

I prefer to call the happy little accidents

[@MachoMan_Vert]

IMO burial at sea did a good job pouring some concreat over those gaping plot holes (atleast most of em)

[@beetledjuice3062]

Damn dude, this got me emotial for real Edit: Now do Bioshock 2, pl0x

[@DJPeachCobbler]

Maybe someday, I'd like to.

[@beetledjuice3062]

@@DJPeachCobbler You got my sub, I'll be waiting now Edit: Great vids, awesome job my man

[@ocatazzip124]

Well down another rabbit hole we go youtube

[@jacobsoliman3467]

Love the video, but I disagree on the difficulty critique of Bioshock. I’m not big on Vita-Chambers, but doing the painful war-of-attrition thing against a BD for 15-20 mins on survivor is just as good as dying and resetting a few times when it comes to teaching the player to fight. Instead of throwing themselves at BDs over and over, players learn to use their environment thru hacking turrets/cams, environmental explosives, tripwires, proximity mines, etc., all to avoid a more painful fight. When I played on survivor, I saved before each BD fight and loaded the save if things went really sideways, as I found it faster than throwing myself at a tough enemy over and over. This fits perfectly into the rest of the gameplay and setting, as BDs are punishing and brutal, but can be beaten if you’re willing to fight unfairly and exploit their predictability

[@shagituz]

Not killing the girl is in one's self interest. The moral and the self interest go hand in hand

[@FishyNiden]

The only game that really make the player explore objectionism is Rimworld

[@koca6685]

wait a minute this a good video holy

[@zigrakudo4092]

I feel for that creative director for bioshock 2. Why even bother hiring a creative director when you're not gonna use his/her creative ideas and impose your own.

[@Apemopo]

10:00 and a bit later you receive 12 dollars in the mail

[@liammccullough3190]

Since you've discussed the bioshocks, will you ever discuss the daddy of such games and the big inspiration for some of the design choices System Shock 2?

[@sa1ty_pe1icanrkd70]

Amazing video

[@dxpope7037]

Far cry 5 background music? Soothing

[@johnnymillar9056]

So I think the game is saying "if you justify all the evil things you've done in your life you'll end up a fascist" but it says that by using the trappings of Bio1. So instead of going into Columbia and immediately getting a valid question "is a man not entitled to the sweat on his brow?" Instead, you see that Columbia is already rotten to the core, and you don't fully understand who this Comstock guy is. The reveal that it's Booker is to say "see! You could so easily also become fascist dictator if you lied to yourself that all the murders you do are good!" (A very relatable premise) But essentially, this isn't a teardown of the concept of fascism the way that B1 is a teardown of objectivism, because hopefully, there's no reason to. On the face of it, fascism is evil. It's too obvious to refute. Infinite is more about saying "how close are you to betraying everything good and believing lies of superiority and violence?" And it does that through the Booker/Comstock/Elizabeth dynamic

[@Jonnyanomaly1986]

It must be nice not having any problems except the ones you created for yourself.

[@Ahmadabdal_]

"why did you hire me" you know things are grim for a game when the director says this line

[@innerhaku6784]

Just outright depressing man, really hits me right in the mood

[@fencer4597]

"Bioshock is pretty goddamn atmospheric, considering it so far underwater" So, you could say it's... "bathyspheric".

[@soupcan3666]

Get out

[@michealo6201]

That's 𝗱𝗲𝗲𝗽

[@DORANGEDMOOCOW]

Take my upvote...wait wrong platform, TAKE THIS LIKE and let the door hit you on the ass when you get out

[@fingernecklace4817]

V e r y g o o d

[@llewelynshingler2173]

Given that "Bathysphere" is based on the Greek "Bathys" meaning Deep and "Sphere" meaning Sphere, you did very well.

[@Smoka_cola11]

"A knife with a weirdly long handle" So a slightly smaller spear?

[@DJPeachCobbler]

I had a hard time deciding between the two, and decided on the goofier sounding one

[@Smoka_cola11]

Its a good joke none the less

[@StrawberryShmello]

It’s a really short 2 handed sword

[@sohnoterra16]

Pocket spear

[@nina4707]

@@StrawberryShmello a two handed knife, if you will

[@krakkenzomboid6341]

The choice of saving or sacrificing little sisters would have been far more compelling if it actually COST you Adam to save them.

[@someguy198]

This wouldn't really be possible gameplay wise. In this instance, one way to play, the proper way, is by restricting gameplay as much as possible. Being stuck with electokinesis and telekinesis for the entire game. Which would be boring. And if you still gave them plasmids the direction still doesn't matter. Also balancing would be an absolute pleasure to fullfil properly.

[@banditkeef3864]

Maybe not cost. But if you got no Adam aside from the gifts every few levels that would translate well.

[@evanthesquirrel]

You don't HAVE to accept the gifts from the little sisters

[@treasurehunter3369]

Yeah I think most people just save them the first time and then just kill them on subsequent playthroughs

[@HASHEN_F0X]

Would be horrible for game balance. Think for one second, they would need to make it possible to complete with few to no plasmids, and also make the upgrades less of a choice so you have a chance of obtaining them without killing little sisters; it would be interesting for a challenge mode, but would absolutely ruin the flow and feel of the game.

[@pootispencer9765]

IMO bioshock infinite is a bunch of poor decisions executed so well that that you only realize they were poor when you stop and look back at it all, but not while it's in motion with you in the middle.

[@letsBrn]

The coherent but interesting mess that is bioshock infinite.

[@fungusamongus9686]

Its just a great game but not a great bioshock game

[@letsBrn]

@Hung Low I really like infinite, i replayed it 4 times. The main reason (atleast i think why) why so many people including me like the game is because it doesn't really give the player time to think. you don't ask questions because you are to distracted by things happening around you, like setpieces, reality hopping and many combat encounters. And yes I enjoyed it because it didn't get semmy for me, but the people who can see past all the distractions will see a very messy gameplot with some glarring plot-holes. The poor things are hidden really well because of all the "smoke and mirrors" serounding it.

[@prinzdenax]

@@fungusamongus9686 I played all the Bioshock games since I bought the collection recently, Infinite honestly had the best story and gameplay.

[@k0metz590]

@@prinzdenax but it is the most quotable?

[@alecwhatshisname5170]

Ted Cruz "I'd like to share a few excerpts from one of my favorite books, 'Atlas Shrugged' by Ayn Rand." --- "Do you like green eggs and ham? I do not like them, Sam I Am, I do not like green eggs and ham." 10/10 cackled out loud

[@MaineMotman]

To quote one of my favorite characters, Baku from FF9. "Bwaaaahahahahaha!" - thank you.

[@AntiCommunistAlliance]

Same haha

[@thatguy5277]

This was definitely worth the wait Well done, mate There are so many people out there who shit on games to get rage clicks or just because people enjoy negativity, but the criticism in this video comes from a place of love. That's such an unbelievably nice change of pace.

[@chainjaw8013]

@WeAre Atlas What a comment

[@lordwoods3111]

I played, and beat, the game as a mere angry man with a wrench. Never underestimate anger fuelled melee murder.

[@sars910]

I see you are a connoisseur of GLORIOUS SUPERIOR MELEE COMBAT as well. Big E likes.

[@lordwoods3111]

@@sars910 Of course I’m a fan, what do you think I am? A Tau? They can’t even melee!

[@anidiot192]

I did the same and found out it was optimal, you can buff the wrench until you're oneshotting the weaklings. And fontaine doesn't know what to do about some fucker with a wrench.

[@sars910]

@@lordwoods3111 To build giant-ass robots and NOT have them carry giant-ass chainswords ? The Tau are disgraceful.

[@lordwoods3111]

@@sars910 They do have weird laser swords, not chain swords, but still swords.

[@Mariana-gb2dz]

I've always told myself and everyone who was willing to listen that Bioshock Infinite is a great game, but is not truly Bioshock. However, I could never quite express the reasons as to why that was except "the atmosphere looks different". Thank you for making a better argument about it than I ever could. I now will surely win all discussions I have with myself about this game.

[@Nyghtking]

It's a bioshock game, but it's the shell of a bioshock game, like what a picture on a wall is to whats in the picture.

[@Jack-pc9sp]

Very disappointing how Infinite's political commentary was so watered down and displaced with some weird father daughter fantasy and awful non sensical quantum physics bullshit.

[@Yominication]

​@@Jack-pc9spthats what happens when your game is that long in development, you meander and lose your original idea that sparked eveything

[@hershmergersh6733]

I heard "Is a man not entitled to his little girls?" had to be used because the Catholic Church was using the term "Is a man not entitled to his little boys?"

[@ovahlord1451]

"No" said the mod from discord, " they belong to us all"

[@malogor2127]

"No" said the FBI, "they must be protected from you sick fucks"

[@malogor2127]

@Spec I mean, I would hope so you know?

[@guilhermefloresfeitosaguer4543]

@@malogor2127 "I rejected those answers. I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... The Orphanage."

[@lordrj4203]

@@guilhermefloresfeitosaguer4543 - Batman (when selecting his Robins)